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<v Speaker 1>This is off track. All right, ladies</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And gentlemen, welcome to a live show</v>

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of Off Track with Hench and Rossi.

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Boo Rossi looks a little different.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, . He</v>
<v Speaker 1>Sounds a little different too. Well,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, he sounds like he did in 2016 when he first</v>

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came back. I True.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll feign disinterest. . Oh,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Rossie.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, don't lock it in America. It's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Indie Coles.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Weird.</v>
<v Speaker 2>I think you're hitting that TV with your</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Chair.</v>

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I think you set the TV up, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't. I didn't set any of</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Those up.</v>

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Brand. You can charge him for the TV set.

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Get all four done while you're at it.

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You can't have a mismatch one,

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right.
<v Speaker 3>,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're rich. It's fine. Um, hi guys. Welcome.</v>

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Thank you so much for coming out.

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Welcome to, uh, our

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somewhat traditional Monday post practice.

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Sure. Off track show.

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Uh, up here in the lovely front stretch suite compliments

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of, uh, Brent Cox here.

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Big round of applause for that guy and everyone involved.

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This wouldn't happen without him. Hey man, how are you?

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Um, we got a guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey. Hey buddy.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Hi.</v>

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It's so funny 'cause I, you

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and I have been in this position

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for about a hundred hours over the last week.

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Oh. So like, I, I almost didn't even notice you there

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'cause you're just always there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm part of the furniture now, right? Yeah,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah.</v>

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You're just like an extension of my arm.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, man. Well, I'm supposed</v>

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to be Doug Bowles, but Yeah. ,

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he's had a busy 24 hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Why? What happened?</v>
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Heard Well within the last hour, uh,</v>

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kicked out another one or where

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, did they? Nah</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Man.</v>

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I mean maybe, who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Seem to be making it up as they go.</v>

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So why not? Apparently. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>That's a direct quote.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Originally, yes, we did have, uh, Mr.</v>

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Bowles had very generously agreed to come be part of this.

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I do wanna talk about that. Okay.

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I do wanna talk about the fact,

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can you slide up a little bit?

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It's weird that you're like sitting behind me.

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Um, what is that

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<v Speaker 3>In your hand? Is that like</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Medicine?</v>

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This is, I gonna, I was gonna

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talk about this in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, alright. Sorry. I've rolled,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I already surprised.</v>

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Don't like where this is going. .

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So, um, Doug Bowles, maybe you've heard of him.

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Uh, president of this beautiful facility has been

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for some time round of applause. Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Suit Enthusiast. Yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Blue suit enthusiast.</v>

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He has been just a tremendous, you know, asset and, and,

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and, uh, promoter of this event and,

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and incredible in every way. Doug

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<v Speaker 3>Bowes is my president.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He's absolutely, and</v>
<v Speaker 2>My poe too, if we're being,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And then he gets, you know,</v>

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thrust into this new position this year

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and he's now also the president of the series.

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Extra Responsibilities, all that stuff,

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as if May wasn't already his busiest month, just

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as the track president.

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Now you've got the fact that he's the series president

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and with all of that, he's still, he still agreed

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to carve some time out of his day to come sit

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with this degenerate and, and us

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and you lovely people here in the suite,

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which I think is incredible.

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Uh, so a round of applause for Doug, just for even having,

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making the effort to,

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to find the time to come here. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>You know what he told us earlier in the week,</v>

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he said the worst thing about being president

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of IndyCar is he doesn't have enough time to go out

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and actually stand with the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed fans. A hundred percent. He did say that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I love that man. Like,</v>
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so his office is on the same floor as our TV booth,

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so we kind of pass him a few times a day, usually

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<v Speaker 3>Not today. And</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's been busy .</v>

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It's been a busy week and a very busy day.

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And so I messaged Tim

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and was like, maybe he's got more important things to do.

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So he did not cancel.

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We got in touch with him and said, Hey man,

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your time is probably better spent elsewhere right now.

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Yeah. So why don't you just take a pass on this one

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and we'll move along that way we can also

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talk openly about what hat?

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No, I'm just kidding. . I'm just kidding. Kind

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<v Speaker 3>Of.</v>

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Doug's gone to IMS museum to check over the, uh,

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race cards. Got him from last year

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<v Speaker 1>To put some covers on race cards. Did you see,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see Nathan Brown? Oh, we s seen. Yeah. Oh</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we knew.</v>

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We knew a before He did too. Come on the media. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I got a media hard card over there. So, I mean,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't mean a thing, man. They give those</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like guys</v>
<v Speaker 2>What I know.</v>

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Does that make you feel less like important? They

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<v Speaker 1>Accredited you Media.</v>

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Media. Yeah. Wait, based off of this? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Based off of this.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>This is considered media. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Um, okay. I have, I have so</v>
<v Speaker 1>Terrifying.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, he pointed it out.</v>

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I have something in my lap here. Ew, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Two</v>
<v Speaker 2>M tm. A fan, a fan of the podcast.</v>

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Edwin from from Scotland brought us Yes.

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Uh, brought me this, uh, it's called Tonic Wine.

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And maybe, maybe, I mean, I like both of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my God, it's buck fast. .</v>
<v Speaker 1>Oh, sorry.</v>

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This is a family show. Please watch your language, sir. So

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have no</v>
<v Speaker 1>Idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what this is,</v>

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but just reading, it's tonic wine.

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Wow. And it, and it's, it has caffeine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like hill juice.</v>
<v Speaker 2>It high caffeine content,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Like caffeine content. And that just guys,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This is like, this is like Scottish moonshine.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So, so she made it clear</v>

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and we made it clear that, uh, that this is, uh, like a lot

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of, a lot of, uh,

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Scottish people's like first foray into drinking.

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It's basic. It's dirt cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>It's, it's basically what homeless people drink. Okay.</v>

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To, to, to stave off the sadness.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 1>I only know about that.</v>

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They don't have that in Canada. I know about that. Yeah.

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Not at all. Uh, mechanic of mine.

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But this is, I have a few points on this. This is funny.

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Um, this is what you say, what Scottish people get.

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This is their first foray into drinking. Yeah.

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I feel like in, at least in North America, you tend to like,

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start with the sweet stuff

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that doesn't even taste like alcohol. I

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<v Speaker 2>You start with whatever your parents have in the,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>In Scotland, this is like one step</v>

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beneath the class A drug.

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Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>Strong.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part is it says</v>
<v Speaker 3>and cheap. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Red wine based, a pair of teeth, high caffeine, a pair</v>

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of teeth, high caffeine content, not recommended

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for children or pregnant

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or breastfeeding women under the caffeine part.

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They're ignoring the 15% alcohol part.

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And just saying there's a lot of caffeine here.

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Don't give it to your kids. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. The poz is fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Scotland. .</v>
<v Speaker 1>Buckfast also does</v>

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sound like a swear word.

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Are we supposed to be trying

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this? Is that what we're doing here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>We're go drink the</v>
<v Speaker 2>Buck fast.</v>

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Yeah, I figured, you know, I saved it for you.

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Thank you Edwin, for bringing that forth.

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Us
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we'll see if we're gonna be thanking her or not. So

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<v Speaker 3>You've had this Can I be will buck fast?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Not on Sunday, bro. That's an FCC. Fine. It's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Monday.</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. Let's take a swing.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Calm down. . It's like, no, hang on.</v>

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely</v>
<v Speaker 1>Not,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna be the worst</v>

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thing that's happened to your stomach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely better than mall. Lord.</v>

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I can already tell .

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, let's try some.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not that bad, actually. That's pretty good. Solid</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Wig.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hate it. .</v>
<v Speaker 1>Tim, you've never met an alcohol.</v>

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You hated . Um, okay. Uh, thank you very much.

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That was delicious. I'm actually gonna have more of that,

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uh, at some point. What's that?

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<v Speaker 3>I never realized it was from Buckfast.</v>

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It's not actually a Scottish drink.

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It's from Devon, which is literally the

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completely opposite end of the country. I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys just send</v>
<v Speaker 2>Up</v>

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the Scotland to mess with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this like, is this like what you have when you go up</v>

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and you have the sacrament in church?

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Basically
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<v Speaker 3>It's made by the Benedictine monks. There's</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Probably somewhere that</v>
<v Speaker 3>Does that. Good</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lord.</v>

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Hold on. I'm asking Dario if he's ever had it not

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<v Speaker 3>Recommended to children. I</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Mentioned I brought that he had a thousand yards there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Come again.</v>
<v Speaker 4>I mentioned to Dario,</v>

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I brought bottles and he had a thousand yards

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<v Speaker 1>There again, .</v>

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So just like after every other question

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that he gets asked these days,

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<v Speaker 3>Um, I'm terrible with accents by the way.</v>

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I had a, a great friend who was a,

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a fellow journalist in Formula One

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and I knew him for about a year

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and I said to him, so I was like, oh, Gary's coming out

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for for a drink tonight.

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You're gonna love him. And everyone's like, oh cool.

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You know, where's he from? And I'm like, Belfast.

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I think like he's Irish gets into dinner

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and he starts chatting

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everyone's, oh, so where are you from?

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He's like, Glasgow .

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<v Speaker 1>That's hurtful, isn't it? Absolutely.</v>

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Sorry. I was really hoping

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<v Speaker 2>He was like Des Moines</v>
<v Speaker 1>Will Ton's our guest today.</v>

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Um, welcome already

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<v Speaker 3>Cocktail</v>
<v Speaker 1>Now that we've already torn the off.</v>

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome back to the show.

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Uh, last time you had, you were on the show, what you were,

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we had Townsend on at the same time, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But from our, uh, hotel rooms.</v>

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We were all, uh, in hotel rooms here in Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 1>Actually.</v>

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And there was a technical difficulty

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and you guys couldn't hear each other

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or Yeah, it was brilliant.

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It was, it was a mess. You just called your first Indy 500

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qualifying Yeah.

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On network television in the United States. Yes.

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Pretty big deal. Pretty huge deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty big deal</v>
<v Speaker 1>Guys. Yeah. Round of applause.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Thank you.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I promise we won't tell him,</v>

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but how do you guys think he did by round of applause?

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Room for improvement. . That's how I judge you.

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I thought you did great. They were being very

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<v Speaker 3>Harsh.</v>

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I get it. I'm not diffy, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>How was it mate? How was it for you?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I'm exhausted. Well,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's from that eight days prior</v>

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of being on 14 hour

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<v Speaker 3>Today.</v>

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40 hours. We've done 40 hours

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of broadcasting over the last seven days.

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And uh, that's a lot of time with Townsend and James.

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I can tell you. Um, no, most would

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<v Speaker 1>Say too much. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What a what what an absolute thrill.</v>

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But it's, it is just the whole buildup into Fast Friday

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and then the two days of qualifying,

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which I think is the most accelerating

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two days in all of sport.

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I don't think there's, there's anything like it.

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The Jeopardy, you know, the gambling of Do you,

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do you withdraw your time?

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Do you go again? The heartache

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of last chance Qualifying the thrill of,

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of the run for Paul. Like

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<v Speaker 1>No Reus, you don't withdraw your time and go again.</v>

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What was, what was that all, what was that

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<v Speaker 3>About</v>
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but so coming from F1</v>

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where you, you wouldn't have, were you in

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<v Speaker 1>F1?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I might have mentioned it. Okay. Like once or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Twice.</v>

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But I mean, so you wouldn't have,

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we wouldn't have something like Indianapolis

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where it's a multi-week event, but you would have just

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insane travel around the globe.

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Yes. So how does it compare? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny 'cause people say, oh, so have you moved to the</v>

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States?
<v Speaker 2>?</v>

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No. You're still coming in for

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<v Speaker 3>Main every week.</v>

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I say no. And they went, well you're commuting to the races.

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And I'm like, yes. Number one, there's three weeks

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between ev every race at the start of the season.

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Yeah. And the first three races were in Florida

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and two were in California.

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And I'm used to, at this time of year, flying to Australia

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for three days and then flying home

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and then going to Japan for three days and then flying home.

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So frankly, like, you know,

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jump on the good ship Virgin Atlantic.

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Yeah. To LAX and fly home again. Yes, please. Like that's

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easy.
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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Its, that's easy. Hilarious to me that commuting

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to even the Western United States from England is piece

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of piss improvement on your previous travel schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, piece of piss. It's, it's so easy. That's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible.</v>

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It's terrifying. We're

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<v Speaker 2>Just glossing over piece of piss.</v>

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That's a phrase. That's like a,

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you guys thought that that was weird?

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That was a Yeah. I'm gonna use it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's great. Again, I English background.</v>

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I knew that one. You didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>One Well, no, obviously not.</v>

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I'm from four miles away. Joan, you gotta,

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<v Speaker 1>Joan, you gotta teach your son more, uh, more swear words.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's not listening more.</v>

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My mom's not listening to any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what guys? Run applause</v>

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for Tim's mom right here. .

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she was reading about the Penske cards. Why?</v>

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What happened? What's the latest? Yeah, .

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay. Well, we'll we'll come back</v>

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for a check in in a minute. .

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Yeah. Yeah. Well you finish the article and let us know. And

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<v Speaker 2>Mom, are you available Sunday?</v>

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They need somebody in the booth. They need

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<v Speaker 3>Easy.</v>

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I'm not doing that bad .

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<v Speaker 1>Um, well so you got through,</v>

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you got through your first poll day.

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What was the single coolest moment for you?

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I mean, obviously we had Schwar Schwarzman hell

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of a story in that.

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And you know him, right? Yeah.

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You kinda, he kind of grew up racing in your world. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>I know him really, really well.</v>

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And actually at the start of the season, we were,

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we were joking around

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and you know, primer have been struggling

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and it's not been easy for them.

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And I said to James, and literally I was joking and I said,

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and I said, don't worry, it'll be on pole at the 500.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, hold</v>
<v Speaker 2>On. You also called</v>

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that he would be driving for Prema. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I did a year ago. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let's, let's, so</v>
<v Speaker 2>Who's winning?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Let's ba hold on, let's back up a step here.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm opening my FanDuel app</v>

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and I would like him to tell me who's winning. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No . Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 3>No idea.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Damnit, come on man. Why we heavy?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't very helpful. Um, no,</v>

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but like , we, when it was announced,

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I remember you saying like, oh man, just you wait,

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you guys don't even know the level

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that these guys operate at.

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They went everything in Europe, they're so good.

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Or this, that, the other.

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I'm like, yeah dude, I don't think you know

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how hard IndyCar is and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they did. Well</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Given the first five races, I think you're right.</v>

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But then all of a sudden they show up here

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and put an absolute spanking on the field at Indianapolis.

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That's a hell of a comeback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>It is.</v>

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And what you guys have imp empowered to me over the week is

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that lots a lot.

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Quite huge. Quite a bit. Yeah.

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Like literally 39 hours

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and 55 minutes of the 40 hours with James and Townsend.

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Um, the, you, you can be a phenomenal driver, right?

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You can be a Robert Schwartzman,

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you can be utterly fearless, you can keep your foot planted

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and you can be smart enough to be able to feel the car

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and slide it and get a 2 33 every lap out of it.

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Which even Scott Dixon and Alex Palolo weren't able to do.

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Um, but you need a rocket ship under you.

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And unless you have a well-engineered car,

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you are fighting in last chance qualifying.

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You're not fighting for pole. And we got here this week,

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everybody just assumed one of the premise is going home.

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Like that was just, it wasn't even a question.

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One of the premise is going home and one of them's on pole.

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Like that's the job they've done. It's astonishing when

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<v Speaker 1>You, like, when you actually say it.</v>

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'cause you're right. I mean I was, and I was there,

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I was one of the biggest people like, yeah, it's gonna be

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between Call and and Schwartzman who's going home.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Friday night we're driving home</v>

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and you're like, so fast.

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12 tomorrow, who's in it? And I'm like, Schwarzman.

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And you're like, yeah, but seriously. And I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Cool story bro.</v>

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But like actually though. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And, but, and then there he is, like he's,</v>

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he's a phenomenal talent and

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and he tested for Nessi, what was it,

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a year and a half, two years ago.

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And Mike Hull was like, we want

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to sign Robert Schwarzman right now.

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And Robert was like, I've still got a chance

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in Formula One to drive for Ferrari.

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'cause he was a reserve driver at Ferrari for three years.

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You don't walk away from Ferrari like it's

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<v Speaker 2>Ferrari.</v>

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No, you have to remove that from your Instagram bio.

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Yeah, exactly. If you're no longer a reserve

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<v Speaker 3>Driver and, and who knows how to do that</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore, that, that kills trying to get a date.</v>

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If you no longer have that in your bio

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<v Speaker 2>Mine, so much harder.</v>

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Mine says I'm, I'm still an Alpine Reserve driver

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<v Speaker 1>To buy.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you might, you might be</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Many.</v>

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I think I might be would

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<v Speaker 3>Surprise me.</v>

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Yeah. Um, but yeah, and, and,

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and then he got the opportunity to come over with Prema and,

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and be a sender part of a list. It's, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible.</v>

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And I'm really glad that he is here genuinely.

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Because you mentioned that test.

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I'm glad you did because over the last, I don't know, five,

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I mean you could probably go eight years,

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there've been a lot of drivers that have come over

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and tested for various teams at various times

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from various other series.

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And the problem with testing is if you only read the press

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releases, I think we've joked about this on the show before,

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<v Speaker 2>Right?</v>

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Yeah. It's, it's the, the copy

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<v Speaker 1>And paste press release.</v>

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I can write you the pre

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you wanna go test in any car tomorrow?

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I can write the press release. You're gonna be terrible sir.

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With all due respect, you're gonna be

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all I can write the pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry. Do you not recognize Mario Andretti right there.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Great feedback. Really got up to speed.</v>

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Well, you know, came well prepared, was great

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with the team, blah, blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, gave us $400,000. Correct.</v>

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And we was very grateful for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that or it could be what I like.</v>

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It could anywhere in the realm of that is possible.

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But they always just say the same thing. It's,

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<v Speaker 2>I will write you a much nicer press</v>

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release for way less money.

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You won't get to drive it like you need

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to take my Bronco out.

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But like, it will be a much better press release.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not until you, you talk to some</v>

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of the people in the paddock in the industry

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and these teams that you kind

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of get the insider info on some of these tests.

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And there have been drivers that are well,

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well rated drivers from other

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series and other championships.

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I'm not gonna mention names that came and tested IndyCar

467
00:15:56.725 --> 00:15:57.685
and the press release went out

468
00:15:57.705 --> 00:15:58.805
and you would've thought they were great.

469
00:15:59.105 --> 00:16:00.565
And then you talk to people like, man,

470
00:16:00.685 --> 00:16:02.325
I was shocked at actually how bad they were.

471
00:16:02.325 --> 00:16:06.625
Like how uncomfortable they seemed in the car. Yeah. Called

472
00:16:06.625 --> 00:16:07.625
<v Speaker 2>Long.</v>

473
00:16:07.625 --> 00:16:08.985
Yeah. Like when Louis Hamilton tested for coin. Yeah,

474
00:16:08.985 --> 00:16:09.985
<v Speaker 1>Right.</v>

475
00:16:09.985 --> 00:16:12.505
It was, it was shocking. Just, you know, bizarre. Um,

476
00:16:12.855 --> 00:16:14.465
<v Speaker 2>That didn't happen. Just to be clear, ,</v>

477
00:16:15.265 --> 00:16:16.745
<v Speaker 1>I remember when Schwartzman tested</v>

478
00:16:17.405 --> 00:16:19.105
and I remember people saying,

479
00:16:19.285 --> 00:16:20.465
and I, he tested on a day

480
00:16:20.465 --> 00:16:21.585
with a couple other rookies as well.

481
00:16:21.705 --> 00:16:24.585
I forget who it was. Naza, maybe Nazar was there.

482
00:16:24.585 --> 00:16:26.505
And it was a few guys, well rated

483
00:16:26.505 --> 00:16:27.345
<v Speaker 3>Guys and Penske</v>
<v Speaker 1>Liked</v>

484
00:16:27.405 --> 00:16:28.465
for mother championships. Penske liked

485
00:16:28.465 --> 00:16:29.465
<v Speaker 3>Naza</v>
<v Speaker 1>As well.</v>

486
00:16:29.465 --> 00:16:30.385
I mean they liked him enough to hire him

487
00:16:30.385 --> 00:16:31.665
Exactly in the sports car world.

488
00:16:32.205 --> 00:16:35.065
Uh, but I remember that the discussions about Schwarzman

489
00:16:35.065 --> 00:16:38.225
after that test were like, man, this kid is really good.

490
00:16:38.405 --> 00:16:40.065
And I had barely heard his name before that point.

491
00:16:40.305 --> 00:16:41.425
'cause obviously in North America

492
00:16:41.445 --> 00:16:42.625
we hadn't really heard a lot about him.

493
00:16:42.945 --> 00:16:44.305
I think maybe I had heard about him from you

494
00:16:45.045 --> 00:16:46.745
and I always remembered

495
00:16:46.745 --> 00:16:49.345
that mean like he really impressed the guys like Mike Hole

496
00:16:49.345 --> 00:16:52.105
from gsi who has seen the best of the best.

497
00:16:52.305 --> 00:16:54.505
I mean they've got Alex Palone's got Dixon on their team.

498
00:16:54.505 --> 00:16:56.785
Doesn't really get better than that. So, uh, I'm,

499
00:16:56.785 --> 00:16:58.145
I'm really happy he made his way

500
00:17:01.285 --> 00:17:03.305
<v Speaker 5>So frustrating working with you.</v>

501
00:17:04.445 --> 00:17:07.065
<v Speaker 2>So my mom has given us an update then in case you haven't</v>

502
00:17:07.065 --> 00:17:09.345
heard when this comes out on Tuesday, that um,

503
00:17:09.695 --> 00:17:11.105
that the two in 12 car

504
00:17:11.105 --> 00:17:12.305
have been sent to the back of the field.

505
00:17:12.395 --> 00:17:13.985
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for watching our broadcast this</v>

506
00:17:13.985 --> 00:17:15.225
morning, , which appreciated .

507
00:17:15.965 --> 00:17:20.105
<v Speaker 2>Uh, how do you guys feel about, you know, the, the fact</v>

508
00:17:20.105 --> 00:17:21.065
that they, they got the

509
00:17:21.065 --> 00:17:22.225
penalty and that's a pretty big penalty.

510
00:17:22.285 --> 00:17:23.865
But if you're able and you under

511
00:17:24.095 --> 00:17:25.825
<v Speaker 3>Need something stronger</v>
<v Speaker 2>Than under, under,</v>

512
00:17:26.095 --> 00:17:27.265
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, take a step back.</v>

513
00:17:27.435 --> 00:17:29.305
We'll inform the audience not here

514
00:17:29.445 --> 00:17:30.425
who I assume know everything

515
00:17:30.425 --> 00:17:31.345
because you've the audience. The

516
00:17:31.425 --> 00:17:32.425
<v Speaker 3>Audience</v>
<v Speaker 1>At home.</v>

517
00:17:32.425 --> 00:17:32.985
The audience at home. So

518
00:17:33.655 --> 00:17:36.065
<v Speaker 3>Yesterday, uh, we were about to run</v>

519
00:17:36.405 --> 00:17:39.825
for the top 12 shootout for qualifying

520
00:17:40.245 --> 00:17:42.665
and suddenly we are told that the number two car

521
00:17:42.665 --> 00:17:45.145
and the number 12 car, those of Joseph Newgarden

522
00:17:45.145 --> 00:17:48.545
and willpower are being pulled out of line in pit lane.

523
00:17:48.805 --> 00:17:52.125
Now you can't do that in the shootout for the top 12.

524
00:17:52.125 --> 00:17:53.805
It's not like normal qualifying on the Saturday

525
00:17:53.805 --> 00:17:55.845
where you can put yourself outta line, go back

526
00:17:55.845 --> 00:17:57.685
to the garage, make some changes, and come back.

527
00:17:57.745 --> 00:18:00.045
You get one shot, you get one chance in line,

528
00:18:00.065 --> 00:18:01.325
you don't take it, you are done.

529
00:18:02.025 --> 00:18:03.605
Why are they pulling out? It turns out,

530
00:18:03.985 --> 00:18:05.645
and this is where it gets a bit confusing,

531
00:18:06.385 --> 00:18:07.885
one car failed inspection,

532
00:18:08.175 --> 00:18:09.685
maybe both cars failed inspection,

533
00:18:09.685 --> 00:18:11.125
maybe neither failed inspection,

534
00:18:11.125 --> 00:18:12.645
and they just found their way onto pit lane

535
00:18:12.645 --> 00:18:14.085
and Chip nessi spotted something

536
00:18:14.085 --> 00:18:15.605
and then they decided to withdraw them.

537
00:18:15.745 --> 00:18:18.685
The the facts aren't really facts

538
00:18:18.685 --> 00:18:21.205
because we've heard so many different versions of this story

539
00:18:21.205 --> 00:18:23.085
that nobody really knows what the truth is.

540
00:18:24.125 --> 00:18:26.445
Ultimately it all came down to the attenuator,

541
00:18:26.445 --> 00:18:28.365
which is a word I've never heard used

542
00:18:28.365 --> 00:18:30.445
before for the rear crash structure,

543
00:18:30.445 --> 00:18:31.445
crash structure on the car.

544
00:18:32.755 --> 00:18:36.085
Essentially there's a blend line between where you attach it

545
00:18:36.085 --> 00:18:38.845
to the back of the car and it's a part of the car

546
00:18:38.845 --> 00:18:40.245
that you are not allowed to modify.

547
00:18:40.545 --> 00:18:44.525
And what Penske had done was modify it in order to smooth

548
00:18:44.525 --> 00:18:47.525
that transitional line down in order to allow the air

549
00:18:47.525 --> 00:18:50.565
to flow smoother over it and increase speed. No,

550
00:18:50.625 --> 00:18:52.805
<v Speaker 1>It was to make it look better. That's what they said.</v>

551
00:18:52.835 --> 00:18:54.005
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course. Um,</v>

552
00:18:54.115 --> 00:18:56.205
<v Speaker 2>Well they had to make it match Last year's card ,</v>

553
00:19:02.745 --> 00:19:03.565
he edits it,

554
00:19:05.245 --> 00:19:07.365
<v Speaker 3>Evidence of which can be seen right now in the</v>

555
00:19:07.365 --> 00:19:08.965
Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum.

556
00:19:08.995 --> 00:19:11.365
<v Speaker 2>It's a brand new museum. Check it out. Um,</v>

557
00:19:12.025 --> 00:19:15.365
<v Speaker 3>And so they were withdrawn from qualifying so they</v>

558
00:19:16.115 --> 00:19:19.965
take up the final places in the top 12 except that

559
00:19:20.475 --> 00:19:24.165
this is seen as being so egregious that they've been thrown

560
00:19:24.165 --> 00:19:25.805
to the back of the grid despite the fact

561
00:19:25.805 --> 00:19:28.645
that there is no regulation that says they should have been.

562
00:19:29.505 --> 00:19:31.005
<v Speaker 2>Um,</v>
<v Speaker 3>Yeah,</v>

563
00:19:31.185 --> 00:19:34.045
dog Bowles this morning said they've basically gone outside

564
00:19:34.065 --> 00:19:38.165
of the normal regulations in order to impose a penalty

565
00:19:38.235 --> 00:19:43.005
that is sufficient enough that it reflects the gravity of,

566
00:19:43.145 --> 00:19:44.445
of, of what they've done.

567
00:19:44.705 --> 00:19:48.205
And the thing with it is, it's brazen, right?

568
00:19:48.275 --> 00:19:51.285
It's not like they're trying to hide something under this.

569
00:19:51.795 --> 00:19:54.045
It's there for everyone to see.

570
00:19:55.585 --> 00:19:56.685
<v Speaker 1>God, there's, I don't even know where</v>

571
00:19:56.685 --> 00:19:58.285
to start man. There's just so many

572
00:19:58.285 --> 00:19:59.285
<v Speaker 3>Things.</v>

573
00:19:59.285 --> 00:20:01.605
But where does that, does that come from an arrogance

574
00:20:01.745 --> 00:20:04.165
of like, well, but there's, well no one's gonna see

575
00:20:04.165 --> 00:20:05.445
this. And it's like,

576
00:20:06.195 --> 00:20:08.405
<v Speaker 2>Yeah,</v>
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much everyone's gonna see that. But</v>

577
00:20:08.405 --> 00:20:10.725
<v Speaker 2>We ran it last year, but they didn't it</v>

578
00:20:10.825 --> 00:20:11.825
<v Speaker 3>See it right?</v>

579
00:20:11.825 --> 00:20:13.765
<v Speaker 2>They didn't see it last year. It's in the museum. So</v>

580
00:20:13.825 --> 00:20:15.845
<v Speaker 1>Who are you more mad at Penske for doing it</v>

581
00:20:15.865 --> 00:20:18.885
or Indy Carr for not seeing it for however long? Well,

582
00:20:18.885 --> 00:20:19.885
<v Speaker 2>At least three.</v>

583
00:20:19.885 --> 00:20:21.445
Well, I've mad whoever owns IndyCar

584
00:20:21.745 --> 00:20:23.085
for not seeing it, but No,

585
00:20:23.085 --> 00:20:25.005
<v Speaker 3>But, but, but, but here's the thing.</v>

586
00:20:25.035 --> 00:20:28.725
Like you've basically just got Rocket doing everything

587
00:20:28.755 --> 00:20:30.005
down there on his own.

588
00:20:30.745 --> 00:20:35.245
He needs a full team of full-time, uh, scrutinies

589
00:20:35.425 --> 00:20:38.845
who know the rule book inside out who are professionals

590
00:20:38.865 --> 00:20:40.805
and are paid and turn up every single weekend.

591
00:20:40.805 --> 00:20:42.685
Because if you are looking through the rule book,

592
00:20:42.865 --> 00:20:45.565
and by the way, this part doesn't prescribe

593
00:20:45.565 --> 00:20:49.245
to Article 14.6 0.3 0.2

594
00:20:49.565 --> 00:20:51.365
a, uh, like

595
00:20:51.365 --> 00:20:52.645
<v Speaker 2>Well, and and that's not one</v>

596
00:20:52.645 --> 00:20:54.045
of the parts they usually check, right?

597
00:20:54.045 --> 00:20:55.125
Like you see 'em have the,

598
00:20:55.185 --> 00:20:56.885
the level on the back wing to make sure it's

599
00:20:56.915 --> 00:20:58.125
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but how do you not see it?</v>

600
00:20:58.195 --> 00:21:00.285
It's blatant, it's right there.

601
00:21:00.525 --> 00:21:02.165
<v Speaker 2>I guess if they're not looking for it right?</v>

602
00:21:02.645 --> 00:21:05.165
like I guarantee they see it now,

603
00:21:05.385 --> 00:21:06.385
<v Speaker 3>But they do now.</v>

604
00:21:06.545 --> 00:21:07.925
But it's, it's, it's a very,

605
00:21:08.745 --> 00:21:12.205
and so obviously now there's this whole argument of they

606
00:21:12.905 --> 00:21:14.845
put an illegal car in

607
00:21:14.845 --> 00:21:17.165
to run qualifying on the Sunday. Yeah.

608
00:21:17.505 --> 00:21:18.605
<v Speaker 2>And if you're Jacob Pable</v>

609
00:21:18.605 --> 00:21:20.245
<v Speaker 3>Did, but did they also do that on the Saturday?</v>

610
00:21:20.475 --> 00:21:22.845
Because it passed inspection on the Saturday,

611
00:21:23.065 --> 00:21:24.445
but if they weren't looking for it,

612
00:21:24.545 --> 00:21:28.245
and by the way, that same thing passed the Cruin last year

613
00:21:28.265 --> 00:21:29.805
for the Indy 500 winning car.

614
00:21:29.875 --> 00:21:31.485
Yeah. Then did they run it on this?

615
00:21:31.505 --> 00:21:34.565
Is that just normal operating procedure for Penske on

616
00:21:34.565 --> 00:21:36.645
that car and that they didn't think

617
00:21:36.705 --> 00:21:39.605
or realize that it was actually illegal to do that?

618
00:21:40.585 --> 00:21:43.085
Uh, you know, and then there's that big question mark of,

619
00:21:43.085 --> 00:21:44.565
well, if they did that on the Saturday

620
00:21:44.785 --> 00:21:46.885
and Jacob ends up being bumped on the Sunday

621
00:21:46.885 --> 00:21:49.005
because he didn't make the field on the Saturday,

622
00:21:50.185 --> 00:21:51.325
should he be in the race?

623
00:21:51.395 --> 00:21:53.405
Okay. And we spoke, but well, yeah, well, but they,

624
00:21:53.405 --> 00:21:55.485
but then, but we, but we spoke to him earlier today

625
00:21:55.785 --> 00:21:57.445
and to his great credit

626
00:21:57.585 --> 00:22:02.165
and I have to say it was one of the most mature and, and

627
00:22:02.425 --> 00:22:04.325
and genuinely like, impactful things.

628
00:22:04.345 --> 00:22:07.885
He said, I don't wanna race the Indy 500 on a technicality.

629
00:22:08.275 --> 00:22:10.205
<v Speaker 1>Amen.</v>
<v Speaker 3>And I love that from him</v>

630
00:22:10.205 --> 00:22:11.645
because his heart is broken.

631
00:22:12.505 --> 00:22:14.845
And rather than jumping on this bandwagon

632
00:22:14.845 --> 00:22:16.685
and being like, yeah, kick him out, he's like,

633
00:22:16.745 --> 00:22:18.655
no, we didn't do the job.

634
00:22:18.985 --> 00:22:21.415
<v Speaker 1>Jacob has handled the whole situation phenomenally well.</v>

635
00:22:21.485 --> 00:22:23.015
He's so many times as someone that's someone's been there

636
00:22:23.015 --> 00:22:25.655
and done it many Absolutely he is, he has won the respect

637
00:22:25.655 --> 00:22:26.935
of a lot of people in this paddock.

638
00:22:26.935 --> 00:22:28.455
A lot of fans watching all over the world.

639
00:22:29.165 --> 00:22:31.575
Okay, so I'm gonna play devil's advocate on some of this.

640
00:22:32.155 --> 00:22:34.255
Not 'cause I want to emotionally,

641
00:22:34.335 --> 00:22:36.295
I feel like most people in this room I think feel,

642
00:22:37.035 --> 00:22:41.655
but the way it works in theory

643
00:22:42.675 --> 00:22:46.295
is the cars go pretech, they go on track, they do post tech,

644
00:22:46.675 --> 00:22:48.615
and then at the end of the day when everything's agreed

645
00:22:48.615 --> 00:22:51.215
to be fine, the timekeeper signs the timing

646
00:22:51.235 --> 00:22:53.095
and scoring sheet and the results are

647
00:22:53.495 --> 00:22:55.295
official after Saturday.

648
00:22:55.995 --> 00:22:59.775
All of those things happened by the rule of their own law.

649
00:23:00.905 --> 00:23:02.625
Saturday is set based on that.

650
00:23:04.845 --> 00:23:06.465
<v Speaker 3>So then they should start 11th and 12th.</v>

651
00:23:07.445 --> 00:23:09.395
<v Speaker 1>Yes. That is my belief.</v>

652
00:23:09.875 --> 00:23:12.195
'cause their rules state if, if, if this is all about rules

653
00:23:12.255 --> 00:23:14.595
and we're all about trying to make sure people are sticking

654
00:23:14.655 --> 00:23:17.715
to the rules in car, have now broken their own rules.

655
00:23:17.785 --> 00:23:19.995
Yeah. Why did they do it?

656
00:23:19.995 --> 00:23:23.195
To try to go above and beyond to prove a point. That's bull.

657
00:23:23.575 --> 00:23:25.715
That's not a good look in my opinion.

658
00:23:25.995 --> 00:23:28.275
I think it looks worse that they put them to the back row

659
00:23:28.305 --> 00:23:30.315
because if it's such an egregious penalty,

660
00:23:30.695 --> 00:23:32.515
and look guys, I'm gonna say something real quick here.

661
00:23:32.745 --> 00:23:35.275
What they did black and white against the rules.

662
00:23:35.855 --> 00:23:37.475
Is it finding them a mile an hour?

663
00:23:37.975 --> 00:23:39.995
No, it is a very small,

664
00:23:40.555 --> 00:23:42.075
I don't wanna say inconsequential thing.

665
00:23:42.075 --> 00:23:43.075
Everything's consequential

666
00:23:43.075 --> 00:23:44.195
when you're going around the speedway.

667
00:23:44.245 --> 00:23:46.325
We're looking for margins that are small. I get it.

668
00:23:47.025 --> 00:23:49.445
Was it the difference between Scott being on poll last year

669
00:23:49.465 --> 00:23:51.165
and not, not saying he had it.

670
00:23:51.245 --> 00:23:53.165
I don't know, but just bear with me.

671
00:23:54.705 --> 00:23:56.525
I'm just all three cars on the front row last year.

672
00:23:56.525 --> 00:23:59.125
Great point. We don't know if they had it or not,

673
00:24:00.065 --> 00:24:01.845
but was that the difference?

674
00:24:01.885 --> 00:24:03.725
I don't think that was the difference. It's small.

675
00:24:03.825 --> 00:24:06.085
It is small, but it's, it's a rule infraction.

676
00:24:06.745 --> 00:24:07.745
But if you're saying

677
00:24:08.695 --> 00:24:10.555
<v Speaker 6>We found somebody outside kind of roaming around.</v>

678
00:24:13.655 --> 00:24:16.435
<v Speaker 1>Oh, ladies</v>

679
00:24:16.435 --> 00:24:19.795
and gentlemen, the poll sitter for the 109th running

680
00:24:20.295 --> 00:24:23.795
of the Indianapolis 500 as a rookie,

681
00:24:23.895 --> 00:24:26.475
Robert Schwartzman has joined the podcast.

682
00:24:32.855 --> 00:24:33.855
<v Speaker 3>Do you want a beer</v>
<v Speaker 1>?</v>

683
00:24:35.095 --> 00:24:36.875
<v Speaker 3>Do you want a beer or do you want a vodka? You</v>

684
00:24:36.875 --> 00:24:38.515
<v Speaker 2>Got until Friday you, you're not in</v>

685
00:24:38.515 --> 00:24:39.515
<v Speaker 1>The car for a while.</v>

686
00:24:39.515 --> 00:24:41.995
We got a 12 hour bottle of throttle rule here in Indy car.

687
00:24:41.995 --> 00:24:43.155
You're good. We've

688
00:24:43.155 --> 00:24:44.435
<v Speaker 3>Heard 24, but you do you</v>

689
00:24:44.435 --> 00:24:45.475
buck fast. Have you ever had buck

690
00:24:45.475 --> 00:24:46.475
fast
<v Speaker 1>?</v>

691
00:24:46.475 --> 00:24:49.115
No. Nor should you ever I didn't guys round of applause

692
00:24:49.215 --> 00:24:51.555
for the pole sitter for this year's Indy 500.

693
00:24:53.255 --> 00:24:54.275
<v Speaker 7>You didn't Nobody told me</v>

694
00:24:54.275 --> 00:24:55.715
there's gonna be so many people here. I thought

695
00:24:55.715 --> 00:24:56.715
<v Speaker 2>Just</v>
<v Speaker 1>I'd</v>

696
00:24:56.715 --> 00:24:57.675
<v Speaker 3>Wait for Sunday.</v>

697
00:24:57.795 --> 00:24:58.795
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell him to be fair. .</v>

698
00:24:59.705 --> 00:25:02.395
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, I thought we'll be sitting in like in a small</v>

699
00:25:02.395 --> 00:25:04.195
little room like hidden there with

700
00:25:04.375 --> 00:25:05.375
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.</v>

701
00:25:05.375 --> 00:25:05.955
They didn't tell me either. Yeah.

702
00:25:06.265 --> 00:25:07.595
They said, do you wanna come and record a podcast?

703
00:25:07.855 --> 00:25:10.355
I'm like, sounds nice, chilled, relax, just meet James

704
00:25:10.355 --> 00:25:11.835
and you know, a couple of friends. No,

705
00:25:12.415 --> 00:25:14.035
<v Speaker 7>We got played, man. We got played. You</v>

706
00:25:14.035 --> 00:25:15.115
<v Speaker 2>Hear that? I was called couple of</v>

707
00:25:15.115 --> 00:25:16.115
friends.
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

708
00:25:17.445 --> 00:25:18.515
We're gonna edit that out.

709
00:25:18.605 --> 00:25:19.795
We're gonna make sure that doesn't

710
00:25:19.795 --> 00:25:20.915
make it. Robert, congratulations

711
00:25:20.915 --> 00:25:21.715
<v Speaker 3>Man. I thought Rossy was</v>

712
00:25:21.715 --> 00:25:22.715
coming.
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

713
00:25:23.425 --> 00:25:25.315
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's what I, I heard as well was like, ah,</v>

714
00:25:25.375 --> 00:25:26.675
you know, Rossy's coming,

715
00:25:26.675 --> 00:25:28.235
you wanna join up? I was like, yeah, well why

716
00:25:28.235 --> 00:25:29.235
<v Speaker 1>Not?</v>

717
00:25:29.235 --> 00:25:30.755
<v Speaker 7>Nice. And then I was like, oh no, there is not Rossy</v>

718
00:25:30.755 --> 00:25:31.755
<v Speaker 3>Anymore.</v>

719
00:25:31.755 --> 00:25:32.715
You're gonna have to, and I have to take some tips from hch.

720
00:25:33.075 --> 00:25:36.275
<v Speaker 1>I I want you to know that like his name is on this show</v>

721
00:25:36.375 --> 00:25:38.115
and he still didn't bother to show up

722
00:25:38.115 --> 00:25:39.635
after practice yet you're here.

723
00:25:39.775 --> 00:25:41.475
So we really appreciate the effort.

724
00:25:41.575 --> 00:25:43.795
<v Speaker 3>Uh, this, this, this episode needs to be called</v>

725
00:25:44.405 --> 00:25:45.595
Hinch and Schwarze.

726
00:25:45.675 --> 00:25:47.195
<v Speaker 1>I I like it. I like it. We can do that.</v>

727
00:25:47.255 --> 00:25:49.275
And oh, we have so many things to talk about now.

728
00:25:49.375 --> 00:25:51.315
How, how long do you have? Well, how long are you here for?

729
00:25:51.975 --> 00:25:54.315
<v Speaker 7>Uh, well, I don't know. I think I need to do something at,</v>

730
00:25:54.755 --> 00:25:56.755
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine you have so many things to do.</v>

731
00:25:56.855 --> 00:25:58.115
<v Speaker 3>He just said he needs to do something at five.</v>

732
00:25:58.295 --> 00:26:00.795
<v Speaker 1>No, no.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just, we only need you for three,</v>

733
00:26:00.795 --> 00:26:01.795
four hours tops.

734
00:26:02.855 --> 00:26:03.915
You guys can stay right?

735
00:26:04.135 --> 00:26:06.795
<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, be amazing. Amazing</v>
<v Speaker 3>Moly. Moly.</v>

736
00:26:06.945 --> 00:26:07.955
<v Speaker 1>Guys, you're getting an extra</v>

737
00:26:07.955 --> 00:26:08.995
treat here. Okay. You need to, you

738
00:26:08.995 --> 00:26:10.835
<v Speaker 3>Need to keep, you need to keep him more in line.</v>

739
00:26:10.895 --> 00:26:13.995
Man. 25 minutes is a and he, this guy's used to like

740
00:26:14.635 --> 00:26:15.635
<v Speaker 1>Ferrari.</v>

741
00:26:15.635 --> 00:26:15.915
We're not F1 anymore.

742
00:26:16.135 --> 00:26:17.435
<v Speaker 3>You got two minutes? Yeah. Yeah.</v>

743
00:26:17.465 --> 00:26:19.115
Like, that's it. That's your whole interview

744
00:26:19.515 --> 00:26:20.315
<v Speaker 1>Question. No follow ups.</v>

745
00:26:20.895 --> 00:26:23.115
<v Speaker 3>All questions must be pre-approved before</v>

746
00:26:23.115 --> 00:26:24.115
<v Speaker 2>You ask me.</v>

747
00:26:24.115 --> 00:26:25.995
Well, as I've told every woman I've dated, two minutes is

748
00:26:25.995 --> 00:26:26.995
plenty
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

749
00:26:29.535 --> 00:26:31.675
<v Speaker 3>Um, are you, are you currently dating?</v>

750
00:26:32.555 --> 00:26:34.515
<v Speaker 2>I am. And unfortunately my mom is</v>

751
00:26:34.515 --> 00:26:35.555
right there when I made that joke.

752
00:26:36.115 --> 00:26:37.115
I love that .

753
00:26:37.895 --> 00:26:40.435
<v Speaker 1>Now I understand why you have a kid. Um, I'm</v>

754
00:26:40.435 --> 00:26:41.875
<v Speaker 3>Gonna shut up and let this man talk</v>

755
00:26:41.895 --> 00:26:42.895
<v Speaker 1>Anyway.</v>

756
00:26:42.895 --> 00:26:43.645
Yes, dude.

757
00:26:44.385 --> 00:26:45.925
How does it feel to rock up

758
00:26:45.925 --> 00:26:49.685
to the speedway your very first time here and in Abu Hole?

759
00:26:50.795 --> 00:26:53.165
<v Speaker 7>Well, it feels honestly unbelievable still even now.</v>

760
00:26:53.165 --> 00:26:55.925
Like, uh, whenever I was watching like your commentary

761
00:26:55.925 --> 00:26:57.445
and you're like, yeah, Robert Schwartzman's going,

762
00:26:57.445 --> 00:26:59.925
it is like 33 1 and I, I didn't even see the, the speed.

763
00:26:59.965 --> 00:27:02.645
I was just like fully focused on, on the corners.

764
00:27:02.645 --> 00:27:04.125
Like just be precise, ideal.

765
00:27:04.245 --> 00:27:06.485
I was like, let me just finish this four laps.

766
00:27:06.525 --> 00:27:08.485
I don't want to end up like Colton Marcus

767
00:27:08.705 --> 00:27:10.405
or Scotty just wanna, you know,

768
00:27:10.405 --> 00:27:12.325
finish the run, keep the car safe.

769
00:27:12.585 --> 00:27:14.205
And I was like, I did all four laps.

770
00:27:14.245 --> 00:27:15.805
I was like, I breathe, like I breathe out

771
00:27:15.805 --> 00:27:17.405
and I'm like, so where am I at?

772
00:27:17.525 --> 00:27:19.285
I was like, so speaking to my engineer,

773
00:27:19.325 --> 00:27:20.645
I was like, so where we are?

774
00:27:20.645 --> 00:27:22.285
And he's like, P one. I'm like,

775
00:27:22.515 --> 00:27:23.515
what
<v Speaker 1>?</v>

776
00:27:24.305 --> 00:27:26.605
<v Speaker 7>And I'm like, really? He was like, yeah, yeah, P one.</v>

777
00:27:26.785 --> 00:27:29.925
And I was like, okay. So at that stage I was super happy

778
00:27:29.925 --> 00:27:32.525
because I knew that that's at least the front row, you know,

779
00:27:32.525 --> 00:27:35.525
because I had only, uh, Pato and Felix behind me.

780
00:27:35.705 --> 00:27:37.845
So I was like, okay, wait, maybe they're gonna go faster.

781
00:27:38.225 --> 00:27:40.365
But at the same time I knew that maybe not

782
00:27:40.365 --> 00:27:42.805
because I've seen one thing that only me

783
00:27:42.905 --> 00:27:45.445
and Sato had in the car and all the others didn't.

784
00:27:45.445 --> 00:27:46.445
And that What's that? Oh,

785
00:27:46.445 --> 00:27:47.925
that's is a secret. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna

786
00:27:47.925 --> 00:27:48.805
say
<v Speaker 1>. Nah,</v>

787
00:27:48.865 --> 00:27:49.865
<v Speaker 7>Nah, nah, nah.</v>

788
00:27:49.885 --> 00:27:51.005
<v Speaker 1>I feel he was about to say it</v>

789
00:27:51.005 --> 00:27:52.725
and then you asked me, ruined it.

790
00:27:53.385 --> 00:27:55.005
God, were you, were you gonna let it

791
00:27:55.005 --> 00:27:56.365
slip, edit real life and

792
00:27:56.365 --> 00:27:57.365
just
<v Speaker 7>?</v>

793
00:27:57.745 --> 00:28:00.045
No, no, no, no. But that's definitely something I've noticed

794
00:28:00.045 --> 00:28:02.045
that, you know, there is just me and Sato

795
00:28:02.265 --> 00:28:04.845
and when I saw Sato doing the lab, I was like,

796
00:28:04.955 --> 00:28:06.725
he's really fast and compare others,

797
00:28:06.865 --> 00:28:08.965
he was at least half a mile faster.

798
00:28:09.025 --> 00:28:10.765
So I was like, maybe I have a good chance here.

799
00:28:10.765 --> 00:28:13.245
So that was also another boost of confidence.

800
00:28:13.825 --> 00:28:16.525
<v Speaker 3>Did, did you deploy</v>

801
00:28:16.905 --> 00:28:19.205
and regen hybrid on your Walmart lap?

802
00:28:19.625 --> 00:28:20.625
<v Speaker 7>No.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Okay. It's</v>

803
00:28:20.625 --> 00:28:21.125
<v Speaker 3>Not that then. No,</v>

804
00:28:21.125 --> 00:28:22.125
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no,</v>
<v Speaker 7>No.</v>

805
00:28:22.125 --> 00:28:24.565
How's your attenuator? No, no, no, no.

806
00:28:24.565 --> 00:28:26.805
The thing is, uh, as you saw, my first

807
00:28:26.985 --> 00:28:28.925
and second lap normally was always fast.

808
00:28:28.925 --> 00:28:29.925
And then I had a bit of drop

809
00:28:29.925 --> 00:28:31.245
where the tiles were just going off.

810
00:28:31.745 --> 00:28:34.485
So our main, let's say Target was

811
00:28:34.545 --> 00:28:36.965
to keep the car lasting all four laps

812
00:28:36.965 --> 00:28:39.645
that I can get either really close, flat or flat.

813
00:28:39.945 --> 00:28:41.285
And that's what we did in the final run.

814
00:28:41.425 --> 00:28:43.085
We just changed a little bit, few things

815
00:28:43.145 --> 00:28:45.125
and the car was just flat all four laps.

816
00:28:45.345 --> 00:28:46.965
<v Speaker 1>So you talk about the final run, the one</v>

817
00:28:46.965 --> 00:28:49.285
that mattered the most, but you had to get to that point

818
00:28:49.425 --> 00:28:52.485
and you had a, you had my favorite interview of Saturday,

819
00:28:52.895 --> 00:28:54.765
which was after your first qualifying attempt.

820
00:28:54.825 --> 00:28:57.765
You got out and you were like, man, I've driven a lot

821
00:28:57.765 --> 00:29:00.085
of different cars, I've raced in a lot of different series.

822
00:29:00.635 --> 00:29:02.885
That was probably the hardest, scariest thing

823
00:29:02.885 --> 00:29:03.885
that I've done in a indie car.

824
00:29:03.945 --> 00:29:07.525
Can you just talk about that a little bit? Oh, what

825
00:29:07.685 --> 00:29:09.085
<v Speaker 7>Happened there</v>
<v Speaker 1>Tim?</v>

826
00:29:09.085 --> 00:29:11.845
Just don't, don't come back. Just you. That's it. Nope.

827
00:29:11.875 --> 00:29:14.365
Nope. Goal is to not hit her in the head. Nope.

828
00:29:16.305 --> 00:29:18.045
<v Speaker 3>How do you, how</v>
<v Speaker 1>Do you do this?</v>

829
00:29:18.175 --> 00:29:19.765
We're not normally in the same room.

830
00:29:20.015 --> 00:29:21.245
We're not normally in the same building.

831
00:29:21.315 --> 00:29:26.205
Same kind or same state usually anyway, Robert? Yeah. Yeah.

832
00:29:26.305 --> 00:29:27.765
<v Speaker 7>You</v>
<v Speaker 1>Get that first Qualifi. I think</v>

833
00:29:27.825 --> 00:29:30.245
<v Speaker 7>We were a bit too optimistic with our balance.</v>

834
00:29:30.425 --> 00:29:33.045
So it was definitely the hottest qualifying,

835
00:29:33.055 --> 00:29:34.605
let's say session so far.

836
00:29:34.675 --> 00:29:36.285
Like the first one first

837
00:29:36.285 --> 00:29:39.005
because Oh, somebody has a proper American.

838
00:29:39.315 --> 00:29:40.845
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Can we, can we turn that music</v>

839
00:29:40.845 --> 00:29:41.845
<v Speaker 2>Off Brent?</v>

840
00:29:42.515 --> 00:29:45.325
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay.</v>

841
00:29:45.945 --> 00:29:49.005
Um, no, but uh, that was definitely the hottest

842
00:29:49.005 --> 00:29:51.445
because you know, we, first of all, I was very nervous.

843
00:29:51.645 --> 00:29:54.285
I knew that, you know, I'm gonna be driving at 230 mile an

844
00:29:54.285 --> 00:29:56.565
hour and I have to hold on for four laps

845
00:29:56.825 --> 00:29:58.085
and I have to do a good job.

846
00:29:58.105 --> 00:30:00.485
And the target was to get in top 12

847
00:30:00.705 --> 00:30:03.005
or to beat my teammate as it would always is.

848
00:30:03.505 --> 00:30:06.085
And I have no idea how the conditions are,

849
00:30:06.085 --> 00:30:07.125
how the car is gonna behave.

850
00:30:07.125 --> 00:30:09.405
So I, I barely slept that night.

851
00:30:09.505 --> 00:30:10.965
<v Speaker 1>And you didn't practice in the morning, did you?</v>

852
00:30:11.125 --> 00:30:12.565
<v Speaker 3>I, by the way, I love that. Yeah.</v>

853
00:30:12.565 --> 00:30:14.325
That's such a power move.

854
00:30:14.435 --> 00:30:16.725
Like yeah, we got the car,

855
00:30:16.905 --> 00:30:18.645
I'm not gonna practice, just gonna go and qualify.

856
00:30:18.995 --> 00:30:21.125
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Um, so wait, was that a confidence thing</v>

857
00:30:21.125 --> 00:30:23.045
or more of a, like a risk aversion thing

858
00:30:23.045 --> 00:30:24.205
to not do a McLaughlin?

859
00:30:24.505 --> 00:30:26.765
<v Speaker 7>Uh, McLaughlin that was exactly the thing that we,</v>

860
00:30:27.065 --> 00:30:28.805
we understood that it will not make sense,

861
00:30:28.805 --> 00:30:31.325
will not learn anything by doing the warmup.

862
00:30:31.585 --> 00:30:33.285
And I'm not gonna get any more confidence.

863
00:30:33.325 --> 00:30:34.605
I knew that whenever you go to quality,

864
00:30:34.625 --> 00:30:36.125
you just floor it and whatever happens happens.

865
00:30:36.185 --> 00:30:37.885
If I put it at the wall, so be it.

866
00:30:38.035 --> 00:30:39.485
He's a quick learner, but that's where you need

867
00:30:39.485 --> 00:30:41.205
to just go all in.

868
00:30:41.425 --> 00:30:44.405
And I didn't want to waste my energy in a warmup.

869
00:30:44.525 --> 00:30:45.805
I didn't want to take any risk.

870
00:30:45.985 --> 00:30:47.805
And you know, also the engineer side,

871
00:30:47.805 --> 00:30:48.845
they were like, what's the point?

872
00:30:48.845 --> 00:30:50.765
We're not gonna learn anything. The car won't be better.

873
00:30:51.425 --> 00:30:53.165
Why? And I was like, okay, we'll not do it.

874
00:30:53.265 --> 00:30:54.445
And that, that was the right way.

875
00:30:54.445 --> 00:30:56.765
Because as you saw, for example, Scotty, for me,

876
00:30:56.785 --> 00:30:58.885
he was the main contender for Poe.

877
00:30:59.035 --> 00:31:00.725
Like whenever I was looking at his speed

878
00:31:01.105 --> 00:31:04.445
and he basically, yeah, he lost his quality possibility,

879
00:31:04.455 --> 00:31:05.885
let's say in, in in the practice.

880
00:31:06.025 --> 00:31:09.925
And uh, yeah, at the end of the day, that's what, you know,

881
00:31:10.265 --> 00:31:12.165
that's why I, we took Poe position is

882
00:31:12.165 --> 00:31:15.005
that we took every time the right decision, like

883
00:31:15.205 --> 00:31:17.365
whenever we go or we don't go, what we change with the car

884
00:31:17.475 --> 00:31:21.285
because in the morning of Sunday, uh, the engineer they came

885
00:31:21.345 --> 00:31:23.725
and he's like, should we try a different strategy?

886
00:31:23.905 --> 00:31:26.645
And they, the strategy was way more risky.

887
00:31:26.675 --> 00:31:28.925
Like I had to do way more things like playing around.

888
00:31:29.425 --> 00:31:31.005
And initially I was like, yeah, why, why not?

889
00:31:31.005 --> 00:31:32.325
We already in top 12, we already

890
00:31:32.325 --> 00:31:33.565
did a miracle, blah, blah, blah.

891
00:31:33.865 --> 00:31:37.285
And at some point, uh, fun fact, I went to the bathroom,

892
00:31:37.545 --> 00:31:40.525
you know, had uh, 20 minutes of thoughts of processing

893
00:31:40.785 --> 00:31:41.785
<v Speaker 2>20 minutes.</v>

894
00:31:42.315 --> 00:31:43.605
<v Speaker 7>Good</v>
<v Speaker 1>Man to man. Good man.</v>

895
00:31:43.605 --> 00:31:45.205
<v Speaker 3>That's how we do it in Europe, man. Yeah,</v>

896
00:31:45.665 --> 00:31:46.445
<v Speaker 1>I'm the same way. I'm</v>

897
00:31:46.445 --> 00:31:47.445
<v Speaker 7>The same way.</v>

898
00:31:47.445 --> 00:31:48.285
Yeah. Take, take time. Yeah.

899
00:31:49.025 --> 00:31:50.765
<v Speaker 2>Do you guys need fiber? I have some</v>

900
00:31:50.765 --> 00:31:51.765
supplements.
<v Speaker 7>,</v>

901
00:31:51.875 --> 00:31:54.445
yeah, I had a bit of processing how I will do it

902
00:31:54.445 --> 00:31:57.045
and then I was like, no, it's too complicated why we need

903
00:31:57.045 --> 00:31:58.845
to go now and qualify and it's too late.

904
00:31:58.925 --> 00:32:00.565
I haven't had any time to practice it.

905
00:32:00.725 --> 00:32:02.365
I was like, let's just keep the standard roots,

906
00:32:02.395 --> 00:32:04.405
just go back, lemme do the simple things.

907
00:32:04.405 --> 00:32:06.325
Lemme just try to floor it for four laps

908
00:32:06.545 --> 00:32:07.685
and we'll see where I'm gonna be.

909
00:32:07.685 --> 00:32:08.805
And you know, that's what we did.

910
00:32:08.865 --> 00:32:12.005
<v Speaker 3>And the great thing is is having a 20 minute &lt;inaudible&gt;</v>

911
00:32:12.005 --> 00:32:13.365
lighter in the car. Yeah,

912
00:32:13.665 --> 00:32:15.885
<v Speaker 1>That's two tents, that's two tenths for sure. ,</v>

913
00:32:16.625 --> 00:32:19.645
we call it, we call it dropping two tents in the paddock .

914
00:32:20.505 --> 00:32:23.845
Um, so, so you were one of the guys that found,

915
00:32:24.365 --> 00:32:26.885
I mean some guys didn't even go faster, but between top 12

916
00:32:26.885 --> 00:32:29.445
and fast six, you guys found a tremendous amount of pace.

917
00:32:29.985 --> 00:32:31.085
Was that a change to the car?

918
00:32:31.145 --> 00:32:33.445
Did you trim or was that just you getting better,

919
00:32:33.495 --> 00:32:35.245
optimizing things, being more comfortable?

920
00:32:35.785 --> 00:32:37.525
<v Speaker 7>The funny thing is that from Saturday,</v>

921
00:32:37.665 --> 00:32:38.725
the car hasn't been changed.

922
00:32:39.755 --> 00:32:41.605
<v Speaker 1>What? That's awesome.  awesome.</v>

923
00:32:41.785 --> 00:32:45.485
<v Speaker 7>Yes. And that's where I think it's also another play</v>

924
00:32:45.555 --> 00:32:47.925
that we did because others, they were going back and forward

925
00:32:48.115 --> 00:32:52.845
because in the top 12 everybody went back on different,

926
00:32:52.985 --> 00:32:54.885
say options, angles, wing angles.

927
00:32:55.405 --> 00:32:56.965
'cause we, we can see what others were doing

928
00:32:57.185 --> 00:32:58.405
and then they went back again.

929
00:32:58.405 --> 00:33:00.005
So they were always doing like ups and out

930
00:33:00.005 --> 00:33:01.525
and we were just keeping it steady.

931
00:33:01.945 --> 00:33:03.325
We just needed to find

932
00:33:03.325 --> 00:33:05.165
that perfect balance, perfect temperature.

933
00:33:05.425 --> 00:33:07.085
And that's where my best friend was,

934
00:33:07.085 --> 00:33:08.445
the final one. But the car was the same.

935
00:33:09.105 --> 00:33:11.565
<v Speaker 3>Um, when, it's amazing, when we came into this month</v>

936
00:33:11.565 --> 00:33:14.335
of May, most people had Premier down

937
00:33:14.395 --> 00:33:16.015
to be in last chance qualifying.

938
00:33:16.225 --> 00:33:18.655
Right? And that one premier car wouldn't make the field.

939
00:33:18.655 --> 00:33:20.895
That was just everybody in the paddock just

940
00:33:20.895 --> 00:33:22.215
assumed that's what was gonna happen.

941
00:33:22.415 --> 00:33:24.015
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I called it, I</v>
<v Speaker 3>Knew it was gonna be a pole.</v>

942
00:33:24.015 --> 00:33:28.535
And then, and then dude, I call, I actually did call it. Um,

943
00:33:28.885 --> 00:33:32.055
<v Speaker 1>Yeah,</v>
<v Speaker 3>But then you're fighting for, for Pole</v>

944
00:33:32.115 --> 00:33:35.575
and we know, listen, I know your talents as a racing driver,

945
00:33:36.075 --> 00:33:38.735
but you, you can't fight for pole unless you've got the car.

946
00:33:39.565 --> 00:33:43.335
When Michael Cannon was left, the team early in the season,

947
00:33:43.435 --> 00:33:46.175
the Indy 500 specialist, everyone was like, well that's,

948
00:33:46.175 --> 00:33:47.375
that's premise screwed.

949
00:33:48.675 --> 00:33:50.695
And yet here you are on the pole position.

950
00:33:50.995 --> 00:33:53.935
How much of an influence of people like Robert

951
00:33:54.195 --> 00:33:56.975
and Eric on your team, the engineering brilliance

952
00:33:56.975 --> 00:33:58.175
and knowhow that they've brought

953
00:33:58.555 --> 00:33:59.855
to give you the car that you needed?

954
00:33:59.915 --> 00:34:00.935
How important have they been?

955
00:34:01.725 --> 00:34:03.255
<v Speaker 1>It's</v>
<v Speaker 7>Extremely important, honestly.</v>

956
00:34:03.475 --> 00:34:07.255
Um, you know, that I've had, he's my third engineer.

957
00:34:07.445 --> 00:34:08.855
Like not in the way that's,

958
00:34:09.195 --> 00:34:10.775
so basically I have two engineers now.

959
00:34:11.075 --> 00:34:13.615
One is Mario, the one I've raced in Europe in Formula

960
00:34:13.645 --> 00:34:14.655
Free. I won with him and

961
00:34:14.875 --> 00:34:15.875
<v Speaker 3>He was my engineer.</v>

962
00:34:16.115 --> 00:34:18.055
<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's true. Yeah. He said it was funny,</v>

963
00:34:18.105 --> 00:34:19.855
Mario, he's really good lad.

964
00:34:19.915 --> 00:34:24.535
And uh, basically for normal reasons, he never done a noble.

965
00:34:24.535 --> 00:34:26.575
So he said, listen, I don't feel at all

966
00:34:26.575 --> 00:34:27.655
confident to give you a car.

967
00:34:27.655 --> 00:34:28.855
I don't wanna sort of kill you.

968
00:34:29.475 --> 00:34:30.935
And he said it to the team. That's

969
00:34:30.935 --> 00:34:31.935
<v Speaker 1>Nice of him.</v>

970
00:34:31.935 --> 00:34:34.215
That's a plus. He sounds like a sweet guy. This Mario?

971
00:34:34.215 --> 00:34:35.775
Yeah, generally speaking that's like

972
00:34:35.775 --> 00:34:36.775
<v Speaker 3>Goal.</v>

973
00:34:36.775 --> 00:34:37.775
Yeah. Mario's a solid dude, trust

974
00:34:37.775 --> 00:34:38.775
<v Speaker 1>Me. No, no, he,</v>

975
00:34:38.935 --> 00:34:40.455
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he minded it. No,</v>

976
00:34:40.455 --> 00:34:41.415
<v Speaker 1>No. He, for</v>

977
00:34:41.415 --> 00:34:42.415
<v Speaker 3>Me,</v>
<v Speaker 1>He's</v>

978
00:34:42.415 --> 00:34:43.175
<v Speaker 7>Really taking care of me.</v>

979
00:34:43.175 --> 00:34:44.255
He really wants me to do good.

980
00:34:44.475 --> 00:34:46.855
Um, so yeah, I mean, you know, we are big friends with him,

981
00:34:47.155 --> 00:34:50.015
so he's like, listen, like I don't feel like doing ovals.

982
00:34:50.035 --> 00:34:52.895
And he said it to Renee and Renee was like, okay.

983
00:34:52.995 --> 00:34:55.975
And Renee spoke with Chevy and uh, Chevy offered Eric.

984
00:34:56.005 --> 00:34:57.815
They said, okay, for, for the Oval race,

985
00:34:57.955 --> 00:35:00.215
we can give you a guy who has experience who worked

986
00:35:00.215 --> 00:35:01.375
with Joseph New God and

987
00:35:01.595 --> 00:35:04.015
who worked at Pensky, who has some knowledge. Huh.

988
00:35:04.295 --> 00:35:06.255
<v Speaker 1>I knew you could not do it. I was just waiting.</v>

989
00:35:06.575 --> 00:35:08.095
I was like, I'm even gonna look. He's just gonna go.

990
00:35:08.305 --> 00:35:09.455
Who's that? What has he ever done?

991
00:35:10.165 --> 00:35:12.735
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, um, so basically this guy,</v>

992
00:35:12.875 --> 00:35:15.615
and you know, just a fun fact, this guy works at SpaceX.

993
00:35:15.835 --> 00:35:17.695
If nobody knew that he, the guy is,

994
00:35:17.865 --> 00:35:19.335
let's say working at Elon Musk

995
00:35:19.335 --> 00:35:20.695
company, actually he met the guy once.

996
00:35:21.015 --> 00:35:22.775
I was like, next time we'll took a picture

997
00:35:22.775 --> 00:35:24.015
yesterday from Proposition.

998
00:35:24.015 --> 00:35:25.855
I said, next time you see Elon just show him this

999
00:35:26.015 --> 00:35:28.175
and say this is how rocket ships are made. So,

1000
00:35:28.835 --> 00:35:30.375
<v Speaker 3>Ah, love that.</v>

1001
00:35:30.765 --> 00:35:33.735
Next, next SpaceX rocket's gonna be painted red, white,

1002
00:35:33.735 --> 00:35:35.815
and green with Robert Schwartzman's face

1003
00:35:36.105 --> 00:35:37.645
right on the side of it. Yeah.

1004
00:35:37.665 --> 00:35:41.365
<v Speaker 7>So Eric definitely the guy, he's super intelligent,</v>

1005
00:35:41.495 --> 00:35:43.005
super clever and super calm.

1006
00:35:43.235 --> 00:35:44.245
Like he's unbelievable.

1007
00:35:44.245 --> 00:35:46.645
You know, like European, especially like Mario,

1008
00:35:46.745 --> 00:35:48.245
he can be impulsive sometimes, you know,

1009
00:35:48.345 --> 00:35:50.005
it is like he gets the energy he can.

1010
00:35:50.275 --> 00:35:51.685
Eric is like ice cold.

1011
00:35:51.685 --> 00:35:54.445
Like he just, like, there is, you know, fireworks,

1012
00:35:54.995 --> 00:35:56.685
fire, water, everything.

1013
00:35:56.795 --> 00:35:58.645
He's just standard like calm.

1014
00:35:59.025 --> 00:36:00.605
And obviously he has some deep

1015
00:36:00.605 --> 00:36:02.125
inside emotions, but he never shows it.

1016
00:36:02.125 --> 00:36:03.245
And he's so calm with speaking

1017
00:36:03.305 --> 00:36:07.085
and he uses really right words to people like to mechanics,

1018
00:36:07.085 --> 00:36:08.485
how to, you know, approach things.

1019
00:36:08.515 --> 00:36:09.525
He's super chill guy.

1020
00:36:09.705 --> 00:36:12.205
And I think that was also a big boost in the, in the team

1021
00:36:12.205 --> 00:36:14.885
where sort of people were calm, there was no panic.

1022
00:36:14.995 --> 00:36:16.005
They on the ship, you know,

1023
00:36:16.005 --> 00:36:17.245
they were just like step by step.

1024
00:36:17.265 --> 00:36:18.565
We were just doing some things

1025
00:36:18.625 --> 00:36:21.485
and I, I, yeah, that's, that's the approach.

1026
00:36:21.485 --> 00:36:24.285
Then from Rob's side, Rob worked in McLaren

1027
00:36:24.305 --> 00:36:27.725
and he knows how gearbox should be built up,

1028
00:36:28.065 --> 00:36:30.165
how the car should look like for the ovals.

1029
00:36:30.165 --> 00:36:33.485
So he was doing a lot, a lot of work on the background

1030
00:36:33.505 --> 00:36:35.885
to get everything sorted for this race.

1031
00:36:36.035 --> 00:36:37.925
Unfortunately, we only have this car,

1032
00:36:37.945 --> 00:36:40.245
so I have only this car, I don't have a spare car.

1033
00:36:40.265 --> 00:36:42.725
So that's why I, I needed to take big care of the car

1034
00:36:42.725 --> 00:36:44.645
because if there is anything that's gonna happen,

1035
00:36:44.645 --> 00:36:45.925
that's it, you know, game over.

1036
00:36:46.145 --> 00:36:48.125
We don't have like Penskes a spare car

1037
00:36:48.125 --> 00:36:49.405
or Andretti and stuff like that.

1038
00:36:49.425 --> 00:36:50.445
So you know, nothing are

1039
00:36:50.445 --> 00:36:51.685
<v Speaker 2>Are you going out carb day?</v>

1040
00:36:52.235 --> 00:36:54.165
Yeah. Okay. So we

1041
00:36:54.315 --> 00:36:55.725
<v Speaker 1>Keep,</v>
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.</v>

1042
00:36:56.105 --> 00:36:57.285
Um, so yeah, that's why.

1043
00:36:57.385 --> 00:36:59.405
But this car is people before pretty properly built.

1044
00:36:59.435 --> 00:37:00.685
Like, you know, the guy, he said

1045
00:37:00.685 --> 00:37:01.885
<v Speaker 2>He was taking care of the car. I was</v>

1046
00:37:01.885 --> 00:37:02.885
<v Speaker 1>Like, come down.</v>

1047
00:37:02.885 --> 00:37:04.085
He's is always like a you're per guest.

1048
00:37:04.265 --> 00:37:06.525
He, yeah, he is always like this. It's terrible man.

1049
00:37:06.525 --> 00:37:10.045
I have to do this every week. Is he drunk? Yes. Yeah.

1050
00:37:11.115 --> 00:37:13.885
<v Speaker 2>Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to America, Pete, man.</v>

1051
00:37:13.885 --> 00:37:15.605
Yeah, he, he pinned you real quick, man.

1052
00:37:16.395 --> 00:37:17.605
That didn't take long at all.

1053
00:37:18.465 --> 00:37:20.245
<v Speaker 2>Um, all right, so James,</v>

1054
00:37:20.305 --> 00:37:22.565
you've been on the pole in this race in 2016.

1055
00:37:22.915 --> 00:37:24.045
That was, that was a hint for a round

1056
00:37:24.045 --> 00:37:25.085
of applause for James by the way.

1057
00:37:28.145 --> 00:37:29.925
So you got, got Robert going to fold.

1058
00:37:29.925 --> 00:37:30.925
Do you have any advice?

1059
00:37:32.015 --> 00:37:33.485
<v Speaker 1>Don't lift in one. Okay, ,</v>

1060
00:37:34.865 --> 00:37:36.285
you got the best seat in the house, man.

1061
00:37:36.355 --> 00:37:37.925
It's, it's the most incredible thing ever.

1062
00:37:37.945 --> 00:37:39.925
You're gonna be doing those laps.

1063
00:37:39.925 --> 00:37:41.445
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what's gonna be weird

1064
00:37:42.375 --> 00:37:43.835
in all seriousness, you've, you know,

1065
00:37:43.835 --> 00:37:46.715
been here since last Tuesday, driving around in circles,

1066
00:37:47.865 --> 00:37:49.435
open test, driving around in circles

1067
00:37:49.615 --> 00:37:51.555
and you, you come to fast Friday,

1068
00:37:51.555 --> 00:37:53.035
there's a couple people in the grandstand,

1069
00:37:53.035 --> 00:37:54.555
but for the most part, the place is empty.

1070
00:37:54.555 --> 00:37:56.755
It's great grandstands. Then you get to Saturday

1071
00:37:56.855 --> 00:37:58.635
and there's a few more people you get to poll day.

1072
00:37:58.635 --> 00:38:01.035
There's a few more people. Even today there was a okay

1073
00:38:01.035 --> 00:38:03.875
crowd, you're gonna rock up on carb day,

1074
00:38:04.505 --> 00:38:06.075
there's gonna be a lot more people in the stands.

1075
00:38:06.075 --> 00:38:07.955
You're be like, oh well this place is filling up.

1076
00:38:07.955 --> 00:38:10.075
This is kind of cool. Most

1077
00:38:10.075 --> 00:38:11.355
of the stands are still gonna be empty.

1078
00:38:12.135 --> 00:38:13.875
You're gonna get in the car on race day.

1079
00:38:15.095 --> 00:38:17.595
You will have been through all the pomp. Thank you .

1080
00:38:18.895 --> 00:38:21.115
Oh, as soon as the emotion, you're gonna have been

1081
00:38:21.115 --> 00:38:22.755
through all the pomp

1082
00:38:22.755 --> 00:38:24.715
and circumstance of the opening

1083
00:38:24.725 --> 00:38:26.035
ceremonies, which are incredible.

1084
00:38:26.255 --> 00:38:29.035
And you will find very cool, you're gonna strap it in

1085
00:38:29.035 --> 00:38:31.635
that race car and the stands that you can see,

1086
00:38:31.965 --> 00:38:33.875
which this is one of the things you're gonna hear,

1087
00:38:34.175 --> 00:38:36.085
the stands that you can see on the front straight.

1088
00:38:36.505 --> 00:38:38.365
That's only a small part of the racetrack.

1089
00:38:38.465 --> 00:38:39.725
And you're gonna be, man, I cannot believe

1090
00:38:39.725 --> 00:38:41.405
how many people are in these grandstands.

1091
00:38:41.785 --> 00:38:43.765
And then you're gonna belt in, you are gonna fire up

1092
00:38:43.785 --> 00:38:45.725
and you're gonna take off on the first pace lap.

1093
00:38:46.025 --> 00:38:47.845
And you're gonna be the first guy that gets to go

1094
00:38:47.845 --> 00:38:49.325
around 1, 2, 3, and four

1095
00:38:49.745 --> 00:38:54.565
and see 300,000 people in these grandstands

1096
00:38:54.565 --> 00:38:56.605
that up to this point have just been gray,

1097
00:38:57.245 --> 00:39:00.405
lifeless structures. The track comes

1098
00:39:00.615 --> 00:39:01.615
alive.
<v Speaker 2>,</v>

1099
00:39:03.785 --> 00:39:06.645
please finish Vice gentlemen Jim Cornelius joining us, .

1100
00:39:09.265 --> 00:39:10.365
<v Speaker 1>But it's surreal, man.</v>

1101
00:39:10.425 --> 00:39:14.445
The place looks different and you're gonna go into turn one

1102
00:39:14.825 --> 00:39:17.805
and your visuals, all your cues are skewed.

1103
00:39:17.805 --> 00:39:19.725
You're gonna go into three. It's gonna look tighter

1104
00:39:19.825 --> 00:39:21.925
and more narrow than it does in practice

1105
00:39:21.925 --> 00:39:23.925
because the track looks like it's,

1106
00:39:24.025 --> 00:39:26.045
the stands look like they're coming in onto the racetrack.

1107
00:39:26.225 --> 00:39:27.245
It is unbelievable.

1108
00:39:27.265 --> 00:39:29.525
The whole place just comes alive If you play golf.

1109
00:39:30.475 --> 00:39:32.565
<v Speaker 2>Like actual golf.</v>
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like golf. Golf.</v>

1110
00:39:33.035 --> 00:39:34.165
<v Speaker 1>Wait, what other kind of golf is,</v>

1111
00:39:34.465 --> 00:39:35.465
<v Speaker 2>What's a pro up there?</v>

1112
00:39:35.755 --> 00:39:39.645
Mini? No, mini golf. He Okay. Pot putt champion. No, no, no.

1113
00:39:39.645 --> 00:39:42.125
But I mean, I, I can play a bit, but I'm not a pro.

1114
00:39:42.865 --> 00:39:45.005
<v Speaker 3>So I was talking to Connor about it this morning</v>

1115
00:39:45.265 --> 00:39:47.965
and we were talking about how if you play a golf course in

1116
00:39:47.965 --> 00:39:50.885
the winter, all the leaves have fallen off the trees

1117
00:39:50.985 --> 00:39:52.805
and the fairways feel wide open.

1118
00:39:52.945 --> 00:39:55.245
You can go back to the same golf course in the summer

1119
00:39:55.745 --> 00:39:57.525
and the trees all have the leaves on them.

1120
00:39:57.525 --> 00:40:01.485
You're playing the exact same course, but it feels narrower

1121
00:40:01.505 --> 00:40:04.285
and tighter because you've now got leaves on the trees.

1122
00:40:04.335 --> 00:40:06.365
Which is similar to what James is saying about

1123
00:40:06.365 --> 00:40:09.605
how when these ground stands are full of 350,000 people,

1124
00:40:09.755 --> 00:40:11.685
like it looks like a different place.

1125
00:40:11.685 --> 00:40:13.525
<v Speaker 1>Do you like what I'm saying? Except you're talking about</v>

1126
00:40:13.765 --> 00:40:15.365
&lt;inaudible&gt; golf, which is the most boring

1127
00:40:15.455 --> 00:40:16.725
sport in the world.

1128
00:40:16.825 --> 00:40:19.685
And I'm talking about IndyCar racing at the

1129
00:40:19.685 --> 00:40:20.965
Indianapolis Motor

1130
00:40:21.285 --> 00:40:23.845
<v Speaker 2>Speedway. Know</v>

1131
00:40:23.845 --> 00:40:24.845
<v Speaker 1>Your audience.</v>

1132
00:40:25.095 --> 00:40:26.525
Jesus Christ.

1133
00:40:26.785 --> 00:40:29.165
<v Speaker 2>Hey James, follow up in</v>
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to</v>

1134
00:40:29.185 --> 00:40:31.005
<v Speaker 3>Impart something</v>
<v Speaker 1>Meaningful.</v>

1135
00:40:31.425 --> 00:40:33.165
Yes, I, I know and it was beautiful

1136
00:40:33.345 --> 00:40:35.805
to bring in comparison to bring in people from others.

1137
00:40:35.825 --> 00:40:40.045
It was incredible and it just did not land in this room half

1138
00:40:40.045 --> 00:40:41.045
<v Speaker 2>With you, James.</v>

1139
00:40:41.045 --> 00:40:43.205
James, follow up one year you didn't make the race.

1140
00:40:43.485 --> 00:40:44.925
I don't have a question. I just wanted

1141
00:40:44.925 --> 00:40:45.965
to remind you. Appreciate

1142
00:40:45.965 --> 00:40:46.965
<v Speaker 1>That.</v>

1143
00:40:46.965 --> 00:40:47.925
Anyway, so I've already spoken

1144
00:40:47.925 --> 00:40:50.085
to Jacob Abel several times today, so it's fine.

1145
00:40:50.425 --> 00:40:53.645
Um, no, okay, look, that was incredible. That

1146
00:40:53.645 --> 00:40:55.005
<v Speaker 3>Was, that wasn't unnecessarily harsh.</v>

1147
00:40:55.275 --> 00:40:56.925
<v Speaker 2>He's been kind,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Mean to me. Question.</v>

1148
00:40:57.485 --> 00:40:58.485
I only had one last question.

1149
00:40:58.485 --> 00:41:00.085
<v Speaker 3>Read the room. Hinge</v>
<v Speaker 1>One question.</v>

1150
00:41:00.145 --> 00:41:01.485
Oh, what's the question? You've got one question?

1151
00:41:02.595 --> 00:41:04.045
Yeah, one more question. Yeah. Perfect.

1152
00:41:04.245 --> 00:41:05.165
'cause this is the last, this is

1153
00:41:05.165 --> 00:41:06.005
what I actually wanted to end on.

1154
00:41:06.165 --> 00:41:07.205
'cause we've talked about the Indy 500.

1155
00:41:07.305 --> 00:41:08.405
I'm sure you've answered a

1156
00:41:08.405 --> 00:41:09.685
million questions already about that.

1157
00:41:09.945 --> 00:41:11.925
And you're gonna answer a million more before Sunday.

1158
00:41:13.565 --> 00:41:14.565
Schwartz
<v Speaker 2>.</v>

1159
00:41:16.505 --> 00:41:17.565
<v Speaker 1>Do we get a, who knows</v>

1160
00:41:17.565 --> 00:41:19.045
what I'm talking about by me saying that.

1161
00:41:19.385 --> 00:41:21.645
Do we know that this is a recording artist

1162
00:41:21.765 --> 00:41:22.925
right here? The first the first get

1163
00:41:22.925 --> 00:41:24.125
<v Speaker 3>On Spotify right now.</v>

1164
00:41:24.235 --> 00:41:25.725
This guy, this guy's just a driver.

1165
00:41:26.075 --> 00:41:28.005
He's a producer, a rapper, a singer.

1166
00:41:28.585 --> 00:41:30.685
<v Speaker 1>He is</v>
<v Speaker 2>Easy Tiger.</v>

1167
00:41:31.235 --> 00:41:34.165
He's, he's the first SoundCloud rapper

1168
00:41:34.425 --> 00:41:37.325
to ever win poll at the Indy. 500%.

1169
00:41:37.325 --> 00:41:39.845
<v Speaker 1>Nevermind SoundCloud. Percent. Spotify. Spotify.</v>

1170
00:41:40.245 --> 00:41:41.845
<v Speaker 2>I apologize. Well, I can't,</v>

1171
00:41:41.945 --> 00:41:43.205
we can't promote Spotify. This is

1172
00:41:43.285 --> 00:41:44.285
<v Speaker 1>A serious podcast.</v>

1173
00:41:44.285 --> 00:41:45.485
He's, he's legitimately talented.

1174
00:41:45.905 --> 00:41:48.045
The question I've got, 'cause we only have one left.

1175
00:41:48.705 --> 00:41:50.485
Um, first of all, I do think that like,

1176
00:41:50.485 --> 00:41:52.325
we're gonna big this up on the broadcast.

1177
00:41:52.385 --> 00:41:54.685
Oh yeah. I dunno how much money you make off downloads

1178
00:41:54.685 --> 00:41:56.485
and stuff, but we're gonna get your like thing.

1179
00:41:56.535 --> 00:41:58.245
We're gonna be, we're gonna get you charting.

1180
00:41:58.745 --> 00:42:02.485
Um, how did you get into like te tell us your music story.

1181
00:42:02.565 --> 00:42:04.085
I think that's just so unique and so cool.

1182
00:42:05.395 --> 00:42:07.765
<v Speaker 7>Well, uh, you know, my dad, he really loved music</v>

1183
00:42:07.945 --> 00:42:11.245
and uh, when I was young, I loved, like Metallica,

1184
00:42:11.245 --> 00:42:12.685
Lincoln Park was my favorite band

1185
00:42:12.685 --> 00:42:13.685
and I was just like listening.

1186
00:42:13.805 --> 00:42:15.805
I was like, yeah, you know, heavy metal stuff.

1187
00:42:16.025 --> 00:42:19.205
And um, you know, my dad was listening at that stage,

1188
00:42:19.205 --> 00:42:21.365
more classic music and I was like, yeah, it's boring.

1189
00:42:21.475 --> 00:42:22.725
Come on. What, what are you listening?

1190
00:42:22.725 --> 00:42:25.525
It's just like, there is no words, nothing. No, no movement.

1191
00:42:25.525 --> 00:42:26.845
And he was like, listen, when you grow up,

1192
00:42:26.845 --> 00:42:28.885
you gonna understand something like, you know

1193
00:42:29.265 --> 00:42:32.245
how like music is structured, how you know this,

1194
00:42:32.245 --> 00:42:33.445
like symphonies and stuff.

1195
00:42:33.825 --> 00:42:34.925
So when I was growing up,

1196
00:42:35.045 --> 00:42:36.845
I started actually picking up on my dad

1197
00:42:36.845 --> 00:42:38.405
because I could hear him listening to it.

1198
00:42:38.405 --> 00:42:39.645
So I was like, okay, who is this? Who's that?

1199
00:42:39.645 --> 00:42:41.525
This is actually nice tune, nice melody.

1200
00:42:42.025 --> 00:42:44.005
And he, you know, brought me in the classic music

1201
00:42:44.065 --> 00:42:46.285
and I already had some knowledge of heavy metal,

1202
00:42:46.955 --> 00:42:49.045
classic music, a bit of pop.

1203
00:42:49.225 --> 00:42:51.845
And then the rap started to, you know, hook me up

1204
00:42:51.845 --> 00:42:53.725
because, you know, rappers, they start

1205
00:42:53.725 --> 00:42:57.245
to sample like cool moments, cool beats, cool, you know,

1206
00:42:57.275 --> 00:42:58.405
like melodies.

1207
00:42:58.405 --> 00:43:00.845
And I was like, this is cool when you can actually sample a

1208
00:43:00.845 --> 00:43:03.685
cool melody, add maybe some cool, let's say speech, like,

1209
00:43:03.685 --> 00:43:04.845
and, and you know, and you tune it

1210
00:43:04.985 --> 00:43:06.805
and then you, you just put your lyrics,

1211
00:43:06.805 --> 00:43:08.885
you can speak something, what you wanna speak about,

1212
00:43:08.885 --> 00:43:11.205
your problems about life, about general problems in,

1213
00:43:11.205 --> 00:43:13.165
in the world and whatever you have about love.

1214
00:43:13.625 --> 00:43:15.805
And I just started to get hooked up by the rap

1215
00:43:15.805 --> 00:43:17.245
and I was like, okay, this is interesting.

1216
00:43:17.245 --> 00:43:21.305
And at some point when my dad passed away, I uh,

1217
00:43:21.345 --> 00:43:24.625
I have a friend, uh, at home who is doing professionally,

1218
00:43:24.715 --> 00:43:25.985
let's say being a rapper

1219
00:43:26.045 --> 00:43:27.425
and writing songs and stuff like that.

1220
00:43:27.765 --> 00:43:29.905
And he was like, yo, do you wanna just join up?

1221
00:43:29.905 --> 00:43:31.025
You know, just let's go

1222
00:43:31.025 --> 00:43:32.465
to the boot, you know, record something.

1223
00:43:32.465 --> 00:43:34.425
And I was like, why not? Let's try, you know,

1224
00:43:34.425 --> 00:43:35.785
and I was just a listener.

1225
00:43:35.865 --> 00:43:37.945
I was not singing, I didn't go to any music school.

1226
00:43:38.145 --> 00:43:39.905
I didn't do any of that. Like even in,

1227
00:43:39.965 --> 00:43:41.025
in the school when they were like,

1228
00:43:41.405 --> 00:43:43.585
the only thing I've done about music is just play on a,

1229
00:43:43.585 --> 00:43:45.785
how you call a flute or something like that. The

1230
00:43:45.945 --> 00:43:47.745
<v Speaker 1>Recorder three. The recorder, yeah.</v>

1231
00:43:47.815 --> 00:43:49.625
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. That is the only thing</v>
<v Speaker 1>I've done Cross</v>

1232
00:43:50.115 --> 00:43:51.625
<v Speaker 2>Cross buns up in this bitch.</v>

1233
00:43:51.775 --> 00:43:52.775
Yeah.

1234
00:43:54.125 --> 00:43:55.825
<v Speaker 7>Um, and yeah,</v>

1235
00:43:55.825 --> 00:43:58.305
basically I don't have any knowledge of actual music.

1236
00:43:58.545 --> 00:44:00.625
I just, by the year, so I listen and I,

1237
00:44:00.885 --> 00:44:03.905
and we started, you know, just, you know, writing some stuff

1238
00:44:04.005 --> 00:44:05.745
and, you know, he was like, try, you know,

1239
00:44:05.885 --> 00:44:06.945
put, put it like this.

1240
00:44:07.005 --> 00:44:09.065
And I just started to just copy and copy

1241
00:44:09.065 --> 00:44:10.305
and it started to sound really cool.

1242
00:44:10.325 --> 00:44:12.825
And like I started to feel like it's quite easy.

1243
00:44:13.025 --> 00:44:15.305
I get in the flow, I get in the rhythm, I actually,

1244
00:44:15.305 --> 00:44:16.305
and then I start improvising.

1245
00:44:16.345 --> 00:44:19.465
I start adding my, my own, you know, like punch lines

1246
00:44:19.645 --> 00:44:22.505
or like, you know, some, you know, voice wise, you know,

1247
00:44:22.505 --> 00:44:25.825
some ad libs and stuff like that to, to make the whole song.

1248
00:44:25.885 --> 00:44:27.025
And it started to be creative

1249
00:44:27.045 --> 00:44:28.745
and I was like, this is actual fun process.

1250
00:44:28.925 --> 00:44:30.145
And it's like, a bit like working

1251
00:44:30.145 --> 00:44:31.725
with the engineers on the race car.

1252
00:44:31.725 --> 00:44:34.685
You know, you sit down, you look at the like, telemetry,

1253
00:44:34.685 --> 00:44:37.165
which is on the music side is like a system where you can,

1254
00:44:37.165 --> 00:44:39.365
you know, play around change some things

1255
00:44:39.505 --> 00:44:42.325
and you just create your own, let's say your own vibe,

1256
00:44:42.325 --> 00:44:43.685
your own idea, your own style.

1257
00:44:43.685 --> 00:44:47.005
And you can go from a sad to happy to cool, whatever type

1258
00:44:47.005 --> 00:44:48.565
of song and you just, you know, play with it.

1259
00:44:48.635 --> 00:44:51.685
It's so, so really cool. And then I released one song.

1260
00:44:51.725 --> 00:44:53.165
I actually did 15 in total,

1261
00:44:53.185 --> 00:44:55.165
but I didn't release them all, um,

1262
00:44:55.625 --> 00:44:56.625
<v Speaker 1>Yet.</v>

1263
00:44:56.625 --> 00:44:57.525
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well the thing is,</v>

1264
00:44:58.125 --> 00:45:00.485
I realized when I released the first one is that I need

1265
00:45:00.485 --> 00:45:03.165
to find a proper studio to make it big.

1266
00:45:03.545 --> 00:45:06.445
And that's why I was, I released it basically on my own.

1267
00:45:06.545 --> 00:45:08.565
The song that I've done is just my social media

1268
00:45:08.825 --> 00:45:10.445
and I just put it in iTunes

1269
00:45:10.445 --> 00:45:12.325
and whatever, like Spotify platforms,

1270
00:45:12.345 --> 00:45:13.845
but there were no boost up.

1271
00:45:13.845 --> 00:45:15.325
There was no, no, you know, radio

1272
00:45:15.425 --> 00:45:17.085
and that type of things that were not there.

1273
00:45:17.545 --> 00:45:19.405
And it went really well for what it was.

1274
00:45:19.405 --> 00:45:20.965
But I was like, then I tried to search

1275
00:45:20.965 --> 00:45:22.525
and tried to speak with different companies,

1276
00:45:22.945 --> 00:45:24.125
but, uh, they were too big

1277
00:45:24.145 --> 00:45:26.165
and, you know, you, you, I don't know, you have

1278
00:45:26.285 --> 00:45:27.725
to have some connections to get into

1279
00:45:27.725 --> 00:45:29.365
that from what I got explained. Yeah.

1280
00:45:29.635 --> 00:45:30.925
<v Speaker 2>Does, does being the IndyCar pulse</v>

1281
00:45:30.925 --> 00:45:32.405
sitter help with that, you think? ? Ah,

1282
00:45:32.765 --> 00:45:34.205
<v Speaker 1>I hope</v>
<v Speaker 7>So. I certainly hope so.</v>

1283
00:45:34.305 --> 00:45:35.325
<v Speaker 2>It might open some doors,</v>

1284
00:45:35.625 --> 00:45:36.625
<v Speaker 7>But yeah.</v>

1285
00:45:36.795 --> 00:45:38.805
Yeah. Also coming here to us, that's where,

1286
00:45:38.805 --> 00:45:41.245
because initially when I was going, so at

1287
00:45:41.245 --> 00:45:42.525
that's time it was in Russia.

1288
00:45:42.825 --> 00:45:45.045
And in Russia obviously with all the situation,

1289
00:45:45.055 --> 00:45:46.245
everything got closed

1290
00:45:46.505 --> 00:45:47.965
and you know, there was just Russian music

1291
00:45:47.985 --> 00:45:49.565
and I did not wanna do Russian music.

1292
00:45:49.765 --> 00:45:51.165
I was like, I wanna do, let's say

1293
00:45:51.715 --> 00:45:53.605
like speaking English for the whole world.

1294
00:45:54.185 --> 00:45:55.205
And, uh, so there,

1295
00:45:55.205 --> 00:45:56.885
there wouldn't be any promotion from Russia.

1296
00:45:57.425 --> 00:46:01.165
Um, then I also have, I'm living partially in Dubai

1297
00:46:01.745 --> 00:46:05.125
and also there in Dubai it's a different, different story.

1298
00:46:05.125 --> 00:46:07.205
So I was like, I I, I, where, where can I go?

1299
00:46:07.205 --> 00:46:09.485
Where, where can I find? And when I came here to us,

1300
00:46:09.565 --> 00:46:11.325
I was like, maybe this can be a good opportunity.

1301
00:46:11.425 --> 00:46:13.445
So maybe at some point there's gonna be

1302
00:46:13.445 --> 00:46:14.565
someone who will be interested.

1303
00:46:14.715 --> 00:46:16.805
He's like, Hey, yo, you know, I'm doing this,

1304
00:46:16.835 --> 00:46:18.805
this is my company and you wanna jump in?

1305
00:46:18.845 --> 00:46:20.405
I have this artist. You, maybe you do a collab

1306
00:46:20.405 --> 00:46:22.325
or you know, like do a fit with them.

1307
00:46:22.325 --> 00:46:23.765
And I was like, yeah, why not?

1308
00:46:23.785 --> 00:46:25.925
And we get back on, on real music reels, you

1309
00:46:25.925 --> 00:46:27.445
<v Speaker 1>Know, you should have signed for Maya Shank.</v>

1310
00:46:27.445 --> 00:46:30.765
They got the SiriusXM. Yeah, . I'm joking,

1311
00:46:30.765 --> 00:46:31.685
<v Speaker 2>I'm joking by the way. So do we</v>

1312
00:46:32.075 --> 00:46:33.075
<v Speaker 1>Podcast?</v>

1313
00:46:33.075 --> 00:46:34.685
You wouldn't be on Sirius xm, so, uh,

1314
00:46:34.695 --> 00:46:36.165
maybe we can make some intros for you.

1315
00:46:36.305 --> 00:46:38.365
Hey, look, we really appreciate you stopping. Thank you.

1316
00:46:38.365 --> 00:46:42.325
So much. Thank you. Busiest man in Indy car right here.

1317
00:46:42.785 --> 00:46:46.165
<v Speaker 2>And the pole sitter for the 2025 Indy</v>

1318
00:46:46.165 --> 00:46:51.045
<v Speaker 1>501st rookie pole sitter</v>

1319
00:46:51.045 --> 00:46:53.525
with a rookie team in the history of the race.

1320
00:46:58.985 --> 00:47:03.645
He didn't even know that guys, didn't we? Oh, .

1321
00:47:04.625 --> 00:47:07.045
<v Speaker 2>No, no,</v>
<v Speaker 7>No. But the actual fun fact, another one</v>

1322
00:47:07.045 --> 00:47:09.165
for you guys is that the last rookie

1323
00:47:09.225 --> 00:47:11.845
who have taken the pole position did it in 1983

1324
00:47:11.905 --> 00:47:13.405
and my car number is 83 83.

1325
00:47:13.505 --> 00:47:13.725
<v Speaker 1>Oh,</v>

1326
00:47:17.585 --> 00:47:18.765
mic drop moment right there.

1327
00:47:18.825 --> 00:47:21.765
How did we miss that? How did we miss that?

1328
00:47:21.765 --> 00:47:23.645
That's a great point. It's a great point. Well,

1329
00:47:23.805 --> 00:47:24.965
<v Speaker 2>'cause there was some confusion, right?</v>

1330
00:47:25.165 --> 00:47:27.645
'cause uh, Tony Stewart was a rookie that got pulled,

1331
00:47:27.645 --> 00:47:30.405
but he got it as a technicality, right? He didn't want,

1332
00:47:30.625 --> 00:47:31.625
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.</v>

1333
00:47:31.625 --> 00:47:32.165
Corrected. Prema

1334
00:47:33.215 --> 00:47:35.085
<v Speaker 3>Prema was started in 1983.</v>

1335
00:47:36.185 --> 00:47:37.445
Oh my god, this is

1336
00:47:37.445 --> 00:47:40.005
<v Speaker 2>Alright, well now we've got the conspiracy theories going.</v>

1337
00:47:40.625 --> 00:47:43.525
<v Speaker 1>All right, Robert Schwartzman. One more time. Thanks</v>

1338
00:47:43.555 --> 00:47:44.555
<v Speaker 3>Dude.</v>

1339
00:47:44.555 --> 00:47:47.565
<v Speaker 1>Thanks buddy.</v>
<v Speaker 3>So the thing about about rapping</v>

1340
00:47:47.725 --> 00:47:51.645
with Schwartzman, which is real funny, is, um, we,

1341
00:47:51.905 --> 00:47:53.765
so Robert used to be a co-host

1342
00:47:53.945 --> 00:47:55.845
for me when I was on F1 tv, right?

1343
00:47:55.845 --> 00:47:57.285
And he would come on the shows and, and

1344
00:47:57.305 --> 00:47:58.365
and, and present with me.

1345
00:47:58.865 --> 00:48:00.805
And, uh, before we went on air,

1346
00:48:00.805 --> 00:48:03.165
it was in Zal a couple last year actually.

1347
00:48:03.665 --> 00:48:07.445
We were just like loosening up and getting ready to go.

1348
00:48:07.865 --> 00:48:10.205
And he loves notorious BIG as you do.

1349
00:48:10.205 --> 00:48:11.565
And I love Notorious BIG.

1350
00:48:11.825 --> 00:48:14.845
And so we just did like the whole of, of juicy

1351
00:48:14.865 --> 00:48:17.325
by Notorious BIG , like into the camera.

1352
00:48:18.225 --> 00:48:19.765
<v Speaker 2>Is there a recording</v>
<v Speaker 1>Somewhere?</v>

1353
00:48:19.765 --> 00:48:20.845
<v Speaker 3>That footage exists somewhere.</v>

1354
00:48:20.865 --> 00:48:25.165
So Ferrari went eight and we're like, that is deleted.

1355
00:48:25.595 --> 00:48:28.725
That never makes public air  ever.

1356
00:48:29.145 --> 00:48:32.165
And um, and so yesterday I I I text him

1357
00:48:32.265 --> 00:48:35.245
and I was just like, it was all a dream, , dot.dot.

1358
00:48:35.425 --> 00:48:37.965
And he was just like, yeah, like, I mean,

1359
00:48:38.675 --> 00:48:39.925
very cool. Crazy, crazy.

1360
00:48:40.085 --> 00:48:41.605
<v Speaker 2>I think you, I think you tweeted that. I saw, I I</v>

1361
00:48:41.605 --> 00:48:42.605
<v Speaker 3>Caught, yeah, I put that out the</v>

1362
00:48:42.605 --> 00:48:43.765
end between, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1363
00:48:43.765 --> 00:48:44.765
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

1364
00:48:44.765 --> 00:48:46.165
Well guys, I don't remember

1365
00:48:46.165 --> 00:48:48.645
where we were in our previous discussion. I think that was

1366
00:48:48.645 --> 00:48:49.885
<v Speaker 3>Who don't just had the poll sitter.</v>

1367
00:48:49.945 --> 00:48:50.965
<v Speaker 2>We just had the poll sitter. Yeah,</v>

1368
00:48:51.205 --> 00:48:52.605
<v Speaker 1>I think I was getting mad about stuff.</v>

1369
00:48:53.615 --> 00:48:56.405
Tim's one of the best people are attenuated, but whatever.

1370
00:48:56.905 --> 00:48:57.905
Um,

1371
00:48:58.505 --> 00:48:59.725
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go melt some car parts.</v>

1372
00:49:01.265 --> 00:49:02.285
<v Speaker 1>I'm</v>
<v Speaker 2>Gonna go nuts. Didn't they,</v>

1373
00:49:02.285 --> 00:49:03.805
didn't they do that with like, the blow? Oh

1374
00:49:03.805 --> 00:49:05.165
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they, yeah, yeah. They weren't melting.</v>

1375
00:49:05.675 --> 00:49:06.685
<v Speaker 2>It's, I mean, well, what the hell were</v>

1376
00:49:06.685 --> 00:49:07.805
they doing with the blowtorch thing?

1377
00:49:07.905 --> 00:49:09.645
How would you describe it? Grinder?

1378
00:49:10.355 --> 00:49:12.085
<v Speaker 1>They had both.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Patto said he had a,</v>

1379
00:49:12.475 --> 00:49:13.765
they had a blowtorch, right? No,

1380
00:49:13.765 --> 00:49:14.765
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.</v>

1381
00:49:14.765 --> 00:49:15.845
We have videos of that. They did have a blowtorch.

1382
00:49:16.435 --> 00:49:18.045
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So then how would you describe</v>

1383
00:49:18.275 --> 00:49:19.645
what they did with the blowtorch?

1384
00:49:19.805 --> 00:49:20.925
<v Speaker 1>I, let's put it this way.</v>

1385
00:49:21.125 --> 00:49:23.925
I don't think that when they got the blowtorch, their goal

1386
00:49:23.925 --> 00:49:26.165
with the blowtorch was to melt the car, burn

1387
00:49:26.165 --> 00:49:27.165
<v Speaker 2>The evidence.</v>

1388
00:49:27.165 --> 00:49:28.325
I didn't say they melted the car, burn the car.

1389
00:49:28.435 --> 00:49:30.605
I've said they like, they, they melted some parts

1390
00:49:30.705 --> 00:49:31.705
<v Speaker 1>Of it.</v>

1391
00:49:31.705 --> 00:49:32.045
What that used for melting.

1392
00:49:32.145 --> 00:49:33.645
No, I don't think that's it. What

1393
00:49:33.645 --> 00:49:34.805
<v Speaker 2>Do you use a blowtorch for?</v>

1394
00:49:34.805 --> 00:49:38.125
Are you just over there making C nonstop softening

1395
00:49:38.125 --> 00:49:39.125
<v Speaker 1>The put branding?</v>

1396
00:49:39.125 --> 00:49:41.885
Yeah, that, yeah. What he said, not

1397
00:49:41.885 --> 00:49:43.085
<v Speaker 2>What you said Softing the putty. What?</v>

1398
00:49:43.515 --> 00:49:44.765
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's totally different than melting.</v>

1399
00:49:44.775 --> 00:49:47.525
Relax, calm down. Um, yes. Okay. So

1400
00:49:49.945 --> 00:49:50.965
<v Speaker 2>Do you see what I have to deal with</v>

1401
00:49:50.965 --> 00:49:52.405
<v Speaker 1>Will interesting situation.</v>

1402
00:49:52.905 --> 00:49:54.685
Uh, that's, that's evolving here.

1403
00:49:55.005 --> 00:49:56.405
I, I know we've had press

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00:49:56.405 --> 00:49:57.685
conferences and all the rest of it.

1405
00:49:57.845 --> 00:49:58.925
I, I still get the sense

1406
00:49:58.925 --> 00:50:00.925
that we haven't heard the end of this.

1407
00:50:01.745 --> 00:50:03.925
Um, but at the same time,

1408
00:50:04.995 --> 00:50:07.365
what I want less than anything is for this

1409
00:50:07.365 --> 00:50:09.725
to be the headline of the race for this

1410
00:50:09.725 --> 00:50:11.005
to be the thing people focus on.

1411
00:50:11.105 --> 00:50:16.085
So until we hear more, I'm content to shut up about it.

1412
00:50:16.745 --> 00:50:18.365
Let the racing on track, do the talking

1413
00:50:18.465 --> 00:50:19.525
and, and look forward to a great

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00:50:19.525 --> 00:50:20.525
<v Speaker 3>Race.</v>

1415
00:50:20.525 --> 00:50:21.845
The thing is, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

1416
00:50:22.645 --> 00:50:25.205
I don't disagree. And if it brings some more viewers in

1417
00:50:25.205 --> 00:50:28.715
to be like, Hey, it's the second year in a row that,

1418
00:50:29.135 --> 00:50:31.835
you know, uh, new Garden

1419
00:50:31.895 --> 00:50:34.915
and Power haven't had their strategists on the pit wall

1420
00:50:34.935 --> 00:50:35.955
for them at Penske

1421
00:50:35.955 --> 00:50:37.115
because they've been caught doing

1422
00:50:37.115 --> 00:50:38.195
something that they shouldn't do.

1423
00:50:38.495 --> 00:50:40.915
And the guy going for three wins in a row is gonna start

1424
00:50:40.915 --> 00:50:42.075
from the last row of the grid.

1425
00:50:42.075 --> 00:50:45.795
And we've got a rookie on, like, I wanted the story to be

1426
00:50:46.415 --> 00:50:49.235
the, the saddest thing about this Penske thing is that

1427
00:50:50.635 --> 00:50:54.035
I hope it hasn't, but I kind of feel like it's taken some

1428
00:50:54.035 --> 00:50:56.755
of the, the impact of what Robert

1429
00:50:56.855 --> 00:50:58.835
and Prema did yesterday away

1430
00:50:58.835 --> 00:51:00.635
because everyone's focusing on this.

1431
00:51:00.635 --> 00:51:03.155
Like, for sure, oh, Penske, you're cheating again for sure.

1432
00:51:03.295 --> 00:51:05.755
And, and, and they don't deserve that.

1433
00:51:05.905 --> 00:51:07.395
They deserve to be front and center.

1434
00:51:07.425 --> 00:51:10.475
They deserve to be the main headline of this week.

1435
00:51:10.615 --> 00:51:12.475
And that's what I'm saying. And now they're not. Yeah.

1436
00:51:12.535 --> 00:51:13.555
And, and I think

1437
00:51:13.555 --> 00:51:15.795
that's a great sadness if it brings some more people

1438
00:51:15.795 --> 00:51:17.835
to the broadcast, great for us. But

1439
00:51:18.025 --> 00:51:19.275
<v Speaker 1>Everybody loves a scandal.</v>

1440
00:51:19.715 --> 00:51:21.395
<v Speaker 3>Everyone loves a scandal. No such thing as, as bad news.</v>

1441
00:51:21.655 --> 00:51:24.915
But that kid, and you just heard from him like

1442
00:51:25.135 --> 00:51:27.635
who he really is, like who he is in his soul

1443
00:51:27.735 --> 00:51:29.595
and not just behind the wheel of a racing car,

1444
00:51:29.615 --> 00:51:32.075
but how much of a genuinely lovely dude he is.

1445
00:51:32.905 --> 00:51:34.355
Like, I've known him years

1446
00:51:34.375 --> 00:51:36.155
and I'm so happy for him that,

1447
00:51:36.385 --> 00:51:37.635
that this is happening to him.

1448
00:51:37.995 --> 00:51:39.755
I want him to be the story. Yeah.

1449
00:51:39.835 --> 00:51:41.115
I want Premier to be the story.

1450
00:51:41.355 --> 00:51:43.795
I don't want this Penske bollocks to be the story.

1451
00:51:43.905 --> 00:51:45.195
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I think by the time we get</v>

1452
00:51:45.195 --> 00:51:46.875
to race day, that's gonna be it.

1453
00:51:46.895 --> 00:51:49.315
The Penske guys are at the back, Robert's at the front,

1454
00:51:49.415 --> 00:51:51.435
and when the green flag drops, that's what you're gonna see.

1455
00:51:51.935 --> 00:51:55.195
So, yeah, look, again, I don't think we've seen

1456
00:51:55.415 --> 00:51:57.555
or heard the last of it, um, mainly

1457
00:51:57.555 --> 00:51:59.955
because Alex hasn't had a chance to chime in yet.

1458
00:51:59.955 --> 00:52:02.275
So tune in Thursday because that's gonna be, uh,

1459
00:52:02.685 --> 00:52:04.835
we're gonna revisit it all again on Thursday.

1460
00:52:04.895 --> 00:52:05.915
But until then, guys,

1461
00:52:05.925 --> 00:52:07.395
thank you so much for coming out today.

1462
00:52:07.395 --> 00:52:09.195
Thanks guys. We really appreciate it. Okay.

1463
00:52:09.195 --> 00:52:10.675
See you, you enjoyed your day. And, and

1464
00:52:10.675 --> 00:52:11.995
<v Speaker 2>Thank you to Clayton Anderson for playing</v>

1465
00:52:11.995 --> 00:52:13.115
the show before we got up here.

1466
00:52:13.185 --> 00:52:14.235
Clayton Anderson, you did a great job,

1467
00:52:14.455 --> 00:52:15.075
<v Speaker 1>Man. The myth, the legend.</v>

1468
00:52:15.095 --> 00:52:16.955
<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Brent Cox for hosting us in the suite.</v>

1469
00:52:17.175 --> 00:52:19.315
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Will Buxton for taking time out</v>

1470
00:52:19.315 --> 00:52:20.635
of his very busy schedule.

1471
00:52:20.875 --> 00:52:22.035
I don't say that tongue in cheek.

1472
00:52:22.115 --> 00:52:23.915
I mean that it's been an insane thing. I'm

1473
00:52:24.185 --> 00:52:25.555
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'd have turned up anyway,</v>

1474
00:52:25.655 --> 00:52:29.355
but to have 25 minutes with Robert Schwartzman completely.

1475
00:52:29.385 --> 00:52:31.715
<v Speaker 1>That was so helpful for us, for our jobs, genuinely,</v>

1476
00:52:31.735 --> 00:52:33.875
<v Speaker 3>But just like completely open and honest.</v>

1477
00:52:33.905 --> 00:52:34.905
Yeah, like

1478
00:52:35.545 --> 00:52:36.545
<v Speaker 2>That.</v>

1479
00:52:36.545 --> 00:52:37.355
If you want, if you want that footage, um,

1480
00:52:37.695 --> 00:52:39.275
we can discuss the payment plan. And

1481
00:52:39.695 --> 00:52:40.875
<v Speaker 3>I'm, I'm, I was here.</v>

1482
00:52:41.065 --> 00:52:43.835
It's  dammit. Like it's gone in, dude. He also

1483
00:52:43.835 --> 00:52:45.435
<v Speaker 1>Acts like it's his show. I don't understand.</v>

1484
00:52:45.545 --> 00:52:47.355
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And also like, it doesn't, Hey,</v>

1485
00:52:47.455 --> 00:52:49.195
<v Speaker 2>Can you pass that, that wine tonic with the</v>

1486
00:52:49.475 --> 00:52:50.475
<v Speaker 3>Ing we're all here.</v>

1487
00:52:50.475 --> 00:52:51.435
Like, it's gone in.

1488
00:52:51.435 --> 00:52:53.475
It doesn't just come into our brains when

1489
00:52:53.475 --> 00:52:54.915
you decide to upload it. No.

1490
00:52:55.015 --> 00:52:56.315
<v Speaker 2>See, most of the stuff that goes</v>

1491
00:52:57.305 --> 00:52:58.515
<v Speaker 1>Here,</v>
<v Speaker 2>It goes right out.</v>

1492
00:52:58.535 --> 00:53:00.355
So I just assume everybody else will like that. So you,

1493
00:53:00.585 --> 00:53:02.235
<v Speaker 1>Joan, Joan, come grab your property.</v>

1494
00:53:02.255 --> 00:53:03.315
Get him outta here guys.

1495
00:53:03.315 --> 00:53:04.995
Thanks again so much. Mom. Where's mom?

1496
00:53:05.145 --> 00:53:06.355
<v Speaker 3>Where's mom? Grab, take him</v>

1497
00:53:06.355 --> 00:53:07.355
<v Speaker 1>Home.</v>

1498
00:53:07.355 --> 00:53:07.795
Oh no, she laughed. She was there.

1499
00:53:07.815 --> 00:53:10.395
She left even when your mother can't stand

1500
00:53:10.395 --> 00:53:12.035
<v Speaker 3>Your shit anymore. Jesus</v>

1501
00:53:12.055 --> 00:53:13.115
<v Speaker 1>Christ, thanks for coming.</v>

1502
00:53:13.115 --> 00:53:14.635
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1503
00:53:14.685 --> 00:53:18.475
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1504
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