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This is, is off track.
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Coughing up the blackest. It is disgusting.
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Yummy.
Oh, dude.
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Hello. And welcome to the Hangover 500 part two.
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You can leave that in there.
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Yeah. I, I was hoping he was
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gonna, I sound like <inaudible>.
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You're coughing up a bunch. <inaudible>.
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Yeah.
Tim always just looks like
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<inaudible>.
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Yeah, good for us. Good for us. We're killing it guys.
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Um, all right. Susan is, we're on fire. This is shut up.
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Hey, Timbo. I just want you
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to know, you know, we're kidding,
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right? We really love you.
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I mean, I'll take it,
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but sometimes it doesn't feel that way.
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No, I know . I
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No,
I know. It's the last time I'm gonna say
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it. I'm gonna go back to
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Fun of each other.
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That's friends too. Got an massively worded email about Tim,
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um, sent to my website, which is,
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which is pretty funny. What,
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Did you not share this with
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the group? I don't think I saw this.
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No, I
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about it, but I haven't seen it.
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Do you wanna read it out to the crowd or is
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it
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Really? Yeah. Alright, let's not read it out to the crowd.
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I love my fans.
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I did get one fan, um, who asked you to sign a hat to, uh,
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commit to Burning the Hat, so, yeah.
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Oh yeah. She's no longer a fan. Yeah.
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Yeah, dude, I met her. I met her in, uh, barber. Yeah.
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Great people. Great people.
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Do we ever get any follow up from the, the young lady
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that was at the live show that got you
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to autograph her person
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and claimed she was gonna get that tattooed?
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Did we ever get a follow on
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That?
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We have not. And for the love of God, if you're listening,
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don't do that, ma Don't have to explain
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to people for the rest of your life.
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Okay. So there's this podcast
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and this guy that nobody really likes,
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and he doesn't really talk all that much.
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Um, he's, he's not his name. Not on the show. .
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Yeah. It's, it's really, it's really,
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you wouldn't wanna do that
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or get a massive cigar on your bicep
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for really no good reason. Nobody
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Here has a cigar in their bicep.
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It's, I have a pipe on my bicep .
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Um, yeah, you also brought up the,
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you also brought up the great point of having to go home
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and explain to your girlfriend why some other woman has your
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name tattooed on her body, , which for
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that reason, I kind of wanted her to do it.
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That was gonna be a funny thing that
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To watch you
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To dance.
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Yeah. My agreement was like, I,
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it would be funny if I then got this random woman's
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signature tattooed on my arm, but then I did imagine that.
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I did imagine having to have that conversation.
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I'm like, no, no, no. I just met her. Uh, yeah, ,
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It's not what you think. I don't even know her.
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It's so much dumber than you think.
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It's so much worse. Uh, cool.
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Well, yeah, ma'am, if you're listening, please, uh, uh,
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send me, uh, send him a message at, at ask off track
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and let us know if you did in fact go through with it.
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Um, please, please don't. I've done it. Um, okay.
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Indy 500, let's start at the top.
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How was, how did you sleep?
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I, I slept good.
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Um, I was, I was woken a little bit too early, um,
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because bless his heart, my bus driver, uh, so listen,
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so Kelly and, and, and Ben stayed at home.
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Um, my dad and, and company stayed at a hotel.
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And because Kelly and I
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and Ben were separated, um, we, there's only two spots
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to park out in front of the bus.
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Right. And so she was gonna be coming,
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my dad was gonna be coming.
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I also couldn't have a car there, so my dad dropped me off.
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Um, so there was no cars in front of the bus.
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So at about 4 45 in the morning when I guess my bus driver
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arrived, he didn't realize that anyone was there, um,
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because there was no cars in front,
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even though, where else would I be?
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So he came on and I was awake.
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So that was a little bit sad, but it's okay.
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'cause I would've been woken up anyways by the cannon.
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And this year I actually was awake
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and outside for the cannon
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and the fireworks, which was kind of nice.
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It was kind of cool to see
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that in person instead of just a video of it.
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So, I don't know. I'm trying
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to find the silver linings here.
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Yeah, no, I appreciate that.
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That's a very un unusual thing to do.
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And I, and I respect it, um, because it was
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An honest mistake. He didn't mean to. Yeah,
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No, no, for sure.
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Um, but, you know, my opinion on the, the fireworks,
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the cannon is the cannon.
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I get that. The fireworks.
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I will say, I will say they, they must have listened
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to someone's bitching
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because the fireworks the past, like two
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or three years have been like a good 92nd program.
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At least. At least they were like 20 seconds this year.
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All right. This is my first time, one being up in time
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and two, not being hungover.
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Uh, so I, I could hear them all going off from,
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uh, from my mom's place.
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It was kind of nice. Oh,
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That's cool.
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That's interesting. Uh, okay,
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so you slept okay, just not long enough.
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And then you got to see the candidates, which was great.
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Um, and then was your race morning all business?
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Or did you have any, did you have to like,
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do any meet and greets or
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Had to do a lot of meet and greets?
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Had to do a lot of media hits, but listen, it's part of it.
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Um, I, I love, I love, I'm just, I'm, I, I,
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Sunday morning of the Indy 500 is so cool that like,
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none of it really matters.
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Um, I will say a couple fans really upset me.
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Um, and I mean this in, in the nicest way,
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but like, we're, we're there all month, you know,
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where we are, you know, you know, practice days
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and we're there for the autograph session on Legends Day,
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and we're always out and about, right?
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When it's like 40 minutes before driver intros
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and we're scooting around to trucks to change
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or to go to the bus to get loved ones or to do X, Y, and Z.
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And we apologize that we can't stop
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to sign something 'cause we don't have time.
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And then to get the fuck you is really uncalled for,
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because it's like, really?
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Oh, it's, it's just like we need
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to tone down a little bit of the entitlement.
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Like Yeah. Yeah. We, we have stuff to do.
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And I'm sorry I'm not gonna be late for those things
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because you need a starting grid signed.
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Yeah. So like, that's all, that's all I have to say.
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Just read the room a little bit, um, if,
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if you're in that situation.
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But that being said, uh, Sunday morning,
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race day morning is, is the best, um, is the best day.
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I think it's better than Christmas.
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You know, that episode we had
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with Joey a couple weeks ago, he compared it to Christmas.
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I think it's better than Christmas.
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I love every second of it.
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Um, so yeah, it was, it was pretty chill.
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I watched F1 kids for the first time.
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I didn't even know that was a thing.
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Um, yeah, based on ESPN two. I thought that was pretty cool.
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I honestly preferred it
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to the main broadcast just 'cause the graphics were
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funny. ,
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Wait, so it's like what they do with the NFL.
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They have a kids broadcast of F1. Yeah.
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Pretty cool. Pretty cool. I mean, it,
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it took an incredibly horrible and boring race
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and made it slightly funny and humorous.
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Uh, but we're not here to talk about F1.
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Um, and then, yeah, did the, did the walkout didn't,
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didn't take Baby Ben on the walk out.
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'cause that was just gonna be too much.
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Um, and sat in the green room that was sweaty
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and overcrowded.
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Uh, mostly because Patto had like 68 people there. Um, .
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And then we did driver intros, which are the highlight
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of being an indie car driver every single year.
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You feel like a superstar, which is awesome.
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And that's thanks to the sellout crowd that was there.
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Um, and then the grid also 10 outta 10. Amazing.
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Um, and I had the, the worst,
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I don't wanna say worst moment, I had some
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of the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life.
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About 25 minutes
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after, um, all of the, the flyovers
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and the national anthem and everything
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Care to care to elaborate.
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Dude, I had to pee. I had to pee so bad. Oh.
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And I tried, I literally even unzipped my suit
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and put, I, I
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repositioned things so that like, I wasn't peeing on my leg.
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I tried to do it and I couldn't do it.
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I still couldn't do it. I tried to, I I had you in my head.
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I was like, . You sometimes just James
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saying sometimes you just gotta do it.
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You have to do it. It's okay.
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You, you, you're, you're gonna be, this is a bad situation.
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Like if you crash, it's bad. Yeah.
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You're not gonna be able to focus, blah, blah.
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So I was, I was actively trying
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to pee on the grid and I couldn't do it.
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And let me tell you something, James.
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I have never experienced so many bumps at the Indy 500
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during the parade and pay laps.
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My right leg was shaking. I was trembling.
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I was in so much pain. It was dude, horrifying.
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I know that you made the Indy 500, you,
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the Indianapolis Motor Speedway feel like Detroit
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with all the bar Toronto
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Bus.
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Dude. It was, I've never, I've never, I literally, once all
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of the chaos happened, which we'll talk about in a minute,
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I got back to the bus and I apologized to Kelly
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for giving her a hard time during
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pregnancy about having to pee so much.
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'cause I was like, this is karma coming
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back to bite me in the ass. .
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It sucked.
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So, so once we'll get back to it,
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but once the green flag dropped, did you just, did you just,
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your mind just forgot?
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I mean, I, it was thinking about it less,
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but I still felt it.
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And like, let me tell you, like,
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all I wanted to do was get going.
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And like, I was like, when Scott had his issue, I was like,
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bro, I don't need more apps under yellow. I'm after,
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We're already 20 minutes late getting going.
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It was like 40, um, whatever.
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So I I, I just have to say like, I, I don't,
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I don't think it was from over hydration.
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Like, I think it's, it's the fact that it was a cold day,
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so you weren't really sweating.
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You've got the nerves and the anxiety and everything.
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And when you're just sitting there
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and there's like, there's nothing for you to think about
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and you're just sitting in the race car.
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Like, it was, it was tough.
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It was a mental, it was a mental toughness challenge.
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Well, we know that you weren't the only one struggling
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based on the, uh, the banquet speeches.
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Uh, well, Connor Daley had to, had to pull one out.
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Dude, I talked to, I talked to Lucas.
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He was, he was dying. Felix was dying. Ed was dying.
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Like there was a lot of people, like in the future,
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we can't, I think we need to rethink about that process
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because I, I do have a serious question in terms of some
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of the procedures that happen.
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So obviously Indianapolis, motor Speedway,
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IndyCar, they take, you know, moisture incredibly seriously.
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Like this is like any spots of rain.
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It's yellow for conditions, this sort of thing.
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The track drying process is the best in the world.
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You know that when you go out there
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and ship it at 230 miles an hour, there is zero concern
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that there's any sort of moisture anywhere at all.
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Yes. And that is just a given.
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I really need you
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or someone to explain to me why we had to have air titans
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around the entire track,
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but then the front straight were just like, nah, it's good.
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Is it because there were, the cars were all on the track.
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Yes. That is why. But like, does
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that mean it doesn't need to be dried?
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No, I think, I think I'm,
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and this is, this is just complete speculation, right?
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Yeah. I'm just, yeah, I have no idea. I'm assuming that
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'cause based on the amount of rain,
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'cause we were obviously, you know,
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we're on air at this point.
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We're, we have a whole schedule that is scheduled
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to the minute based on X, Y, Z
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and we're now like in chaos 'cause it's delayed.
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But I was looking out the window at the ground
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outside the booth and the amount
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of rain on the front strait was not a lot.
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It was enough obviously, to have the delay. Certainly.
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Um, but the way I see it was they were probably
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just waiting for the front rate to dry naturally.
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And then out of an abundance
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of caution figured while we're down,
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let's just have the titans in the corners
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making sure everything's good.
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But they didn't go. That's a
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Great, that's a great argument.
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You know, and like, Hey, we're sitting here anyway.
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Let's just, 'cause it's also like,
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maybe it was raining way more in three.
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Yep. And so they needed it there. That's a very good point.
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You know, I guess, I guess the question stems from the
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fact that, do we think it is at all possible that
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what happened to Scott is a result of
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the front straight not being completely dry?
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I'm just speculation here.
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I don't know because I watched the onboard.
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I'm sure you watched the onboard.
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It's not like it was a big Buda
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throttle with some wheel spin.
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I don't know, I'm maybe he just screwed up.
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That's also possible. But like, it, it just, it, it seemed,
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it seemed weird, right?
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I mean, it's, it's cold, right?
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It was the second coldest or third coldest 500.
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Coldest 500 since the puls sitter spun
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right on the back strait. But
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Yeah.
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But he didn't spank in the back strait.
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No. Yeah.
Fair. I
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Mean, that's a great point.
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That's a great point. I don't know, I don't know the answer
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to that and I don't think
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we'll ever know the answer to that.
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No, I, but let's get to that
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heartbreaking Wow, dude.
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Wow. And he said it best, like he wouldn't wish
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that on his worst enemy.
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Yeah. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
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Like, I felt so sad for him.
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I felt so sad driving by
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and seeing him like his head in his hands.
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Like, just, there's no words for that.
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There's not, man. It was, it was crushing,
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like looking at the pictures, you know,
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watching him just in the grass there.
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And, and I, I give a lot of credit to the safety team too.
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'cause, you know, there was a member of the safety team kind
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of crouched down there beside 'em, not rushing them.
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You know, they're like, we're still fronting the car out.
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You, you take your time, man.
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Like, it, it sounds so corny, but unless you've done it,
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unless you've done this race
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and know what this race means from inside the car, it's
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so hard to explain to people what that feeling must be like.
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I mean, crashing out of it at any face
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of the race is devastating.
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Right. Well,
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I remember you saying
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after you didn't qualify, you're like, I've watched plenty
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of races after crashing early.
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Right. Like, once it gets going, you know, I've, I've had
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that experience, but to not be there
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for the start is a different level. Yeah, yeah.
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And like, yeah, I mean there's the, you know,
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there's the year Connor burnt to the ground
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before the, the start happened.
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That's one thing. But when it was like something
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that could just be rooted down to a small mistake
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or misjudgment or whatever on your part, like, oh man.
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But you know what? He handled it really well.
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I thought his interview was really good.
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I thought his speech at the banquet was really good.
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He's already back to the levity side of things.
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So, you know, it's one of those deals.
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You, you cry yourself to sleep.
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You have a Coors Light about it,
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and then you get on with your, with your year, you know?
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Yeah. Um, so, okay, so that was
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before the green flag happened.
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Um, then the green flag happened
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and Marco's Day was done pretty early, which is super sad
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for him on year 20, um, of,
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of doing five hundreds a situation
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that was kind of out of his control.
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I don't blame Jack either.
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Like it was just one of those Yeah. The car one
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Spot Jack, Jack moved
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and there's just nowhere to go for sure.
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Robert Schwarzman did a great job, uh,
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leading the field to green.
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I mean, when you think about the fact that he, uh,
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he obviously first time on Pole, first time on a Noval, uh,
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first time at the 500,
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probably fifth time he's ever done a rolling start.
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Like he, he did the all of that very well. He, um, yeah.
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So props to him. Uh, can we talk about, taking a step back
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for a second, how sick having two black hawks
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over the field, was that the shoppers?
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That was, that was the coolest thing I've
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ever, I've ever seen.
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That lap was insane. Yeah.
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And this is what I was alluding to on the,
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the live show thing was having the helicopters there,
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and I gotta, I'm, I'm gonna call him out.
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This was the, this was something
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that Eric Shanks really wanted to see and
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Wouldn't
I idea?
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He made some, made some calls and made it happen.
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And dude, it was awesome.
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Can we have that every year?
How's at no point though?
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Did somebody be like, uh, look, I thought it was awesome.
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It was so cool. Felt like a pretty high risk move if
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something goes wrong with those Blackhawks that low.
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Nah, dude. They're Blackhawks
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Worth the risk. Okay.
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Yeah,
It's like the most capable helicopter on earth.
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It was so cool. It was
Very
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Cool. It was so cool.
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So yes. So that was outrageously awesome.
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And then, uh, okay.
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And then, dude, I don't remember, I can't even keep track of
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who crashed when because we just had
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so many incidents after that.
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Hmm. Um, why don't, why don't you walk us through your
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start and then Yeah.
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Um, ultimately
End.
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Yeah. So we, uh, I mean there's not a whole lot
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of details other than, um, when it went yellow
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for conditions, I think, um,
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we were at 20 odd laps, uh, in the stint.
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So over half tanks.
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So a lot of people took that yellow, um,
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ECR went all in on the, the staying out strategy, which was,
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I mean, brave, uh, to do it with all three cars.
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Um, the reason for it was, yes, we were past half tanks,
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but a lot of those laps were under yellow.
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So even though we were past half tanks from a lap count
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standpoint, we weren't really past half tanks.
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We were kind of add half tanks.
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So it was a, it was a a a y in the road,
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which always happens at the Indy 500.
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Um, and it was working, it was working really well for us
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because there was a couple,
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there was a couple takers that went with us.
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So, um, when you do that strategy,
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the biggest fear is you're kinda left alone.
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Um, and you don't have a tow.
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And so you're a, not going that fast,
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and b, you're not saving that much fuel.
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Um, but it was obviously the three ECR cars, uh,
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Jack Harvey Devlin, um, were playing ball as well.
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And a couple, maybe one or two others, I forget who.
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Um, and so we were actually, at the time,
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Pata was, was kind of the leader.
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Um, and so we were referencing everything based on, on
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what the five car was doing from a, from a pace standpoint.
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And we were, I mean, we were doing two 20 twos kind
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of all working together, saving fuel.
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And he was back there doing kind
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of two seventeens, two eighteens.
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So, um, we were gonna have a, a pretty sizable assu.
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I mean, you, you never know how yellows are gonna fall.
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And ultimately the way the yellows fell, um,
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that strategy blew up.
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That doesn't mean that that
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would've happened if we stayed in it.
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'cause I think this, the yellow for my car
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slash reus was a problem for that strategy.
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Anyways, long story short, in the moment, um,
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it was coming to us really well.
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And, and, and, and the sad part is like the car
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was, was really good.
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Um, so it was certainly one of those days
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that you look back on and, and you feel sad
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because, um, you didn't get to see how it played out and,
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and you had a, a pretty good, uh, uh, you know, feeling
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of, of the car underneath you and,
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and you kinda do what you needed to do with it.
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So, uh, what ultimately happened was, um,
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a snap ring in the gearbox, uh, failed,
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which meant that the final drive gear, um, was moving back
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and forth and ultimately eating a hole in the gearbox.
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Um, which started to leak oil and lose gearbox pressure.
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And the gearbox temp was obviously pegged because of that.
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And so they kind of gave me a heads up
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that the gearbox temp was, was super high,
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like two laps before anything bad started to happen.
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And, um, I was like, all right,
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well, let me know what we need to do.
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Like, it still was running fine
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and everything seemed to be behaving as it was.
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Um, and then the lap before I came in
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and turned four, like I had a, a big like, snap of overseer.
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That was pretty random. Um, so I kinda reported that
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and they, they called me in, um,
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turns out the thing was pissing oil all over the rear axle
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and, and tires and, and that sort of thing.
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Um, and so we came in
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and pretty much knew the day was done.
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Um, but in case it was a situation where like an oil
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plug was had come off
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and it just needed to be topped up with oil.
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Like we went through the process of, um, doing a tire change
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and refueling the car in case it was a, a fast fix.
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Right. And which is pretty standard,
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standard operating procedure when you don't know
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what the exact issue is.
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Um, and where things got a little bit outta hand was
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apparently there, there, so there's a vent tube
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that is on top of the main fuel hose.
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Um, and that was not, uh, attached.
497
00:20:39.465 --> 00:20:43.445
And so my fueler mike, uh, by hand,
498
00:20:43.725 --> 00:20:45.245
'cause when you plug the red eye in,
499
00:20:45.245 --> 00:20:47.860
it's obviously flowing at a pretty high rate of force.
500
00:20:48.665 --> 00:20:53.605
Um, so he tried to just manually hold the vent hose on, um,
501
00:20:54.025 --> 00:20:56.485
but when it, it's a pressure fill,
502
00:20:56.625 --> 00:20:59.005
and so when it vents, it's quite a lot of pressure that
503
00:20:59.005 --> 00:21:01.485
that puts the excess fuel kind of back in the tank.
504
00:21:01.705 --> 00:21:04.685
And so it blew it off even though he had his hand on it.
505
00:21:05.585 --> 00:21:08.965
And then obviously hot fuel, um, on a hot car,
506
00:21:09.465 --> 00:21:12.885
or sorry, fuel on a hot car, um, is, is a recipe
507
00:21:13.145 --> 00:21:14.765
for things to ignite.
508
00:21:15.025 --> 00:21:19.245
And it did. Um, fortunately, uh, everyone was fine.
509
00:21:19.305 --> 00:21:21.525
It was obviously a, a scary moment, especially for Mike
510
00:21:21.525 --> 00:21:22.805
for for a second there.
511
00:21:23.105 --> 00:21:25.925
Um, but he got away with it with very kind
512
00:21:25.925 --> 00:21:27.445
of minor burns on his hands.
513
00:21:27.785 --> 00:21:29.805
Um, and, and he, he was cleared from the
514
00:21:29.805 --> 00:21:30.845
medical center and all good.
515
00:21:30.905 --> 00:21:32.645
And, um, I actually saw him
516
00:21:32.675 --> 00:21:33.845
that we're recording this on Tuesday.
517
00:21:33.905 --> 00:21:35.085
So I saw him Monday at the shop,
518
00:21:35.085 --> 00:21:37.085
and then he's back working, preparing for Detroit.
519
00:21:37.625 --> 00:21:39.725
Um, so just a really sad sequence of events
520
00:21:39.905 --> 00:21:40.965
for the whole team.
521
00:21:41.265 --> 00:21:45.805
Um, but that's motor sports. That is, that is what it is.
522
00:21:46.025 --> 00:21:48.725
Um, and, and it certainly hits a little bit harder
523
00:21:49.025 --> 00:21:51.965
or closer to home when, um, a someone almost gets injured
524
00:21:51.965 --> 00:21:53.005
and b you had a really good car.
525
00:21:53.395 --> 00:21:54.205
Yeah, it was our day.
526
00:21:57.945 --> 00:21:58.685
It was a tough one, man.
527
00:21:58.725 --> 00:22:00.605
I mean, you guys were, you guys were rolling really well,
528
00:22:01.185 --> 00:22:04.045
and I, I remember we saw the smoke and we're like, damn.
529
00:22:04.065 --> 00:22:07.205
And then, um, when, when they had,
530
00:22:07.235 --> 00:22:09.285
when we were looking at the back of the car
531
00:22:09.505 --> 00:22:11.645
and in the background you could see Mike pull out
532
00:22:12.545 --> 00:22:17.465
and I saw how much fuel came out when he pulled.
533
00:22:17.725 --> 00:22:19.745
And I was like, oh, that's not good.
534
00:22:19.845 --> 00:22:21.265
I'm like, maybe they shouldn't
535
00:22:21.265 --> 00:22:22.305
take the engine cover off yet.
536
00:22:22.305 --> 00:22:23.905
Didn't even matter. They didn't even get
537
00:22:23.905 --> 00:22:24.985
a chance to do that before things.
538
00:22:25.525 --> 00:22:27.105
But scary stuff, man. Dude.
539
00:22:27.415 --> 00:22:30.345
Also just pro to Mike Miller, the dude was fighting the fire
540
00:22:31.095 --> 00:22:33.185
with his ha he had a fire extinguisher trying
541
00:22:33.185 --> 00:22:35.625
to put the car out while his hands were on fire.
542
00:22:36.005 --> 00:22:38.585
Mm-hmm . And then when he was finally like, okay,
543
00:22:38.625 --> 00:22:40.425
I should probably deal with my hands being on fire,
544
00:22:40.725 --> 00:22:43.745
he like turned around to pit wall to like get somebody else
545
00:22:43.925 --> 00:22:45.425
to put his hands out.
546
00:22:45.645 --> 00:22:47.585
The fire extinguisher fell off pit wall.
547
00:22:47.605 --> 00:22:50.185
And so he just calmly bent down, picked it back up,
548
00:22:50.185 --> 00:22:52.305
and just like with one hand sprayed his own hand
549
00:22:52.305 --> 00:22:55.665
and then sprayed his other hand like g move, man.
550
00:22:55.685 --> 00:22:59.145
It was pretty, uh, pretty cool. Um, all right.
551
00:22:59.145 --> 00:23:00.345
Look, it's a 500 mile race.
552
00:23:00.465 --> 00:23:02.825
A lot of stuff happened, but we're gonna, you watched it.
553
00:23:02.925 --> 00:23:03.985
If you're listening to this, you probably
554
00:23:03.985 --> 00:23:04.705
Watch. Yeah. Let's fast forward to the
555
00:23:04.705 --> 00:23:05.705
End.
556
00:23:05.705 --> 00:23:06.105
Let's fast forward to the end.
557
00:23:06.185 --> 00:23:07.145
I wanna cover a couple things.
558
00:23:07.175 --> 00:23:08.865
Well, no, before we even get there.
559
00:23:09.325 --> 00:23:11.785
Do you know who was behind you on track when your
560
00:23:12.045 --> 00:23:13.065
engine was blown up?
561
00:23:13.575 --> 00:23:15.905
Yeah, I sure do. Your gearbox blowing up. Yeah.
562
00:23:15.925 --> 00:23:17.545
Little guy by the name of Alex Palolo.
563
00:23:18.085 --> 00:23:21.745
So Alex Pal's driving around in an oil field, gets
564
00:23:21.745 --> 00:23:24.225
through it at one point in the race,
565
00:23:24.535 --> 00:23:26.705
Alex Palolo made it four.
566
00:23:26.885 --> 00:23:30.505
He made it four wide on the outside into turn, one
567
00:23:32.535 --> 00:23:36.675
did not lift, came out second of the four, one
568
00:23:36.675 --> 00:23:39.395
of the highest risk moves I've ever seen on another restart.
569
00:23:39.775 --> 00:23:42.875
He was behind Ed and Ed. I don't know what happened to Ed.
570
00:23:42.875 --> 00:23:44.315
Something weird happened to Ed.
571
00:23:44.435 --> 00:23:47.445
'cause in the middle of one on a restart just completely
572
00:23:47.635 --> 00:23:48.885
slid up into the second lane.
573
00:23:48.995 --> 00:23:52.125
Like it was not looking for air, it wasn't like a, and,
574
00:23:52.185 --> 00:23:53.325
and Palolo was rolling.
575
00:23:53.905 --> 00:23:56.125
He was, he, he must have had to hit the brakes,
576
00:23:56.125 --> 00:23:59.045
which often leads to a spin if you're doing it in the middle
577
00:23:59.045 --> 00:24:00.325
of a corner in an indie car.
578
00:24:01.515 --> 00:24:03.765
Also got so close behind Ed's car,
579
00:24:03.945 --> 00:24:06.045
he would've had approximately eight pounds
580
00:24:06.045 --> 00:24:07.485
of down force left on the thing
581
00:24:07.825 --> 00:24:10.365
and didn't move, kept it going like
582
00:24:10.385 --> 00:24:11.445
how he didn't crash there.
583
00:24:11.675 --> 00:24:14.405
What I'm trying to say is Blow had a very,
584
00:24:15.395 --> 00:24:18.045
very action packed event filled day
585
00:24:18.505 --> 00:24:22.685
and avoided disaster in the most Scott Dixon esque way,
586
00:24:22.755 --> 00:24:25.285
like three times at least that we caught
587
00:24:25.985 --> 00:24:27.445
before even getting to the fight.
588
00:24:27.465 --> 00:24:31.765
At the end, I want to give a huge shout out to Ryan Hunter,
589
00:24:31.825 --> 00:24:33.325
Ray and DRR
590
00:24:33.675 --> 00:24:38.195
because Ryan Hunter Ray, I'm sorry, he,
591
00:24:38.195 --> 00:24:39.835
Ryan Hunter Ray was gonna win the Indy 500.
592
00:24:40.495 --> 00:24:43.155
He was gonna win the Indy 500 with a, with a car
593
00:24:43.155 --> 00:24:46.035
that was a pit stop practice car as of Friday.
594
00:24:47.365 --> 00:24:49.465
And that team pulled that thing outta the shop,
595
00:24:50.005 --> 00:24:51.705
got it back, you know, got it together.
596
00:24:52.325 --> 00:24:56.465
The first lap that car ever did at speed was lap one.
597
00:24:56.465 --> 00:24:57.705
Well, not lap one of the race,
598
00:24:57.845 --> 00:24:59.625
the first green lap of the race.
599
00:25:01.055 --> 00:25:02.345
They got a bit off strategy.
600
00:25:03.045 --> 00:25:06.145
And it was gonna play out that on that last stop,
601
00:25:06.525 --> 00:25:08.665
hunter Ray was gonna come out ahead
602
00:25:08.685 --> 00:25:10.865
of not just the other cars.
603
00:25:10.925 --> 00:25:13.625
He would've come out ahead of Dev and Louis Foster
604
00:25:14.125 --> 00:25:16.385
and he would've driven away from them as the rest
605
00:25:16.385 --> 00:25:17.545
of the guys got stuck behind them.
606
00:25:17.565 --> 00:25:18.865
He would've driven away
607
00:25:18.865 --> 00:25:20.745
and he would've won that race by five seconds
608
00:25:21.045 --> 00:25:22.825
and he'd be a two time mini 500 champion.
609
00:25:23.485 --> 00:25:24.865
That's obviously not what happened.
610
00:25:24.885 --> 00:25:26.185
That's not how racing works.
611
00:25:26.685 --> 00:25:29.225
I'm not trying to take anything away from Cani and Polo,
612
00:25:29.685 --> 00:25:32.025
but we said this a million times.
613
00:25:32.655 --> 00:25:33.825
Dixon's one of, he's got one
614
00:25:33.825 --> 00:25:36.185
of the best quotes about the 500, which is you
615
00:25:36.205 --> 00:25:39.945
and the team have to do everything perfect just
616
00:25:39.965 --> 00:25:42.425
to have a sh even doing everything perfect
617
00:25:42.495 --> 00:25:43.785
doesn't guarantee you anything.
618
00:25:43.995 --> 00:25:45.985
Right. That's just to have a shot.
619
00:25:46.775 --> 00:25:49.705
Unfortunately, Ryan did not have things go perfect.
620
00:25:50.165 --> 00:25:52.265
The team ran him a lap too long, from what I understand.
621
00:25:52.405 --> 00:25:54.585
And the car kind of ran outta fuel as it came
622
00:25:54.585 --> 00:25:56.025
to Pit Lane on that last stop.
623
00:25:56.325 --> 00:25:58.385
So it stalled. They couldn't get it started again.
624
00:25:58.965 --> 00:26:02.815
And dude, I can't even imagine, can't even imagine.
625
00:26:02.875 --> 00:26:05.415
But just huge pro to him and the team for that, that effort.
626
00:26:05.795 --> 00:26:08.495
It was gonna be like an ultimate fairytale kind of story.
627
00:26:10.355 --> 00:26:13.935
But instead we go back to basically it's four cars.
628
00:26:13.995 --> 00:26:15.775
It was Erickson comes out in front
629
00:26:15.785 --> 00:26:18.095
after the last stops with the most fuel and the best tires.
630
00:26:18.555 --> 00:26:21.135
You had Paolo, you had Lucas, and you had Patto.
631
00:26:22.685 --> 00:26:24.985
And these guys were set up for a pretty interesting race,
632
00:26:26.285 --> 00:26:30.745
except we had two cars that were almost a lap down
633
00:26:31.615 --> 00:26:34.755
that did nothing wrong.
634
00:26:35.035 --> 00:26:38.635
I want to just put this out there. They did nothing wrong.
635
00:26:38.985 --> 00:26:43.365
There's no rule or precedent for them doing anything.
636
00:26:43.365 --> 00:26:47.045
But what they did, however, they
637
00:26:47.705 --> 00:26:50.845
ruined an awesome finish to the Indy 500 battling
638
00:26:50.845 --> 00:26:52.285
for 19th Place or whatever.
639
00:26:52.285 --> 00:26:54.275
It was totally their right to do it.
640
00:26:55.345 --> 00:26:57.275
It's not their responsibility to put on a good end
641
00:26:57.275 --> 00:26:59.685
of the race, but objectively speaking,
642
00:27:00.665 --> 00:27:02.805
ruined an awesome finish to the Indy 500.
643
00:27:03.235 --> 00:27:04.965
They did. They did. Um,
644
00:27:07.245 --> 00:27:09.485
I I don't think it would've changed the result.
645
00:27:09.645 --> 00:27:12.005
I I know that's impossible to say because Correct.
646
00:27:12.155 --> 00:27:14.965
He's just at this point, Alex and the 10 car are inevitable.
647
00:27:15.585 --> 00:27:18.365
Um, and so I think that he's,
648
00:27:19.705 --> 00:27:22.245
and this is no disrespect to Marcus or David or Patto.
649
00:27:22.275 --> 00:27:23.485
He's smarter than the other three.
650
00:27:24.035 --> 00:27:25.805
He's more capable than the other three
651
00:27:26.065 --> 00:27:29.205
and would've found a way to still be the guy.
652
00:27:29.585 --> 00:27:32.405
Um, because the situation that presented itself
653
00:27:33.105 --> 00:27:37.365
and the move that was ultimately for the lead was so like,
654
00:27:37.545 --> 00:27:39.365
was so, I don't even know that, I don't even know
655
00:27:39.365 --> 00:27:40.605
that he made that decision.
656
00:27:41.065 --> 00:27:44.805
It was just one of those situations where a, an op a glimpse
657
00:27:44.825 --> 00:27:46.045
of something presented itself
658
00:27:46.045 --> 00:27:47.925
and it was instinct that took over. Yeah. Like, I don't
659
00:27:47.925 --> 00:27:49.565
Think, yeah, it wasn't even like an opportunity.
660
00:27:49.985 --> 00:27:51.725
No. Yeah.
It just, it just, it just happened.
661
00:27:51.725 --> 00:27:53.125
It was inevitable. It just happened. It just happened.
662
00:27:53.195 --> 00:27:55.965
Exactly. So that's why I think that yes, I agree with
663
00:27:55.965 --> 00:27:57.685
what you're saying about Louie and Dev,
664
00:27:57.785 --> 00:28:00.685
but it, it, it was what it was gonna be. Um,
665
00:28:00.735 --> 00:28:01.735
Right.
666
00:28:01.735 --> 00:28:02.765
But I would've rather seen 14 laps
667
00:28:02.765 --> 00:28:05.605
of cars trading the lead and having a great race. Hundred
668
00:28:05.605 --> 00:28:06.605
Percent.
669
00:28:06.605 --> 00:28:08.165
Yes. I do have to bring up a comment that was made
670
00:28:08.165 --> 00:28:09.245
after the race by Patto.
671
00:28:09.385 --> 00:28:11.805
Um, everyone, it's on my list. Everyone knows that.
672
00:28:11.845 --> 00:28:12.925
I I love that kid.
673
00:28:13.105 --> 00:28:16.645
Um, got a lot of time for him, um, saying
674
00:28:16.645 --> 00:28:20.525
that Marcus choked, uh, is a, is a little off base, um,
675
00:28:20.525 --> 00:28:23.765
especially when he wasn't even in that fight, right?
676
00:28:23.765 --> 00:28:25.285
I mean, there was a car between him and Marcus.
677
00:28:25.665 --> 00:28:28.125
So, I mean, that's, that's a tough thing to say.
678
00:28:28.505 --> 00:28:31.125
And also the move that happened, like
679
00:28:31.795 --> 00:28:33.925
there's no chance Marcus would've seen that coming.
680
00:28:34.195 --> 00:28:35.405
Like no, I I,
681
00:28:35.475 --> 00:28:39.165
when I watched it back on the broadcast, I was like, wait a second.
682
00:28:39.435 --> 00:28:41.485
Like, did Marcus did his car?
683
00:28:41.485 --> 00:28:43.365
Like did he have an over boost? Did he hit a ter?
684
00:28:43.365 --> 00:28:45.045
Like it was one of those things where it was so late
685
00:28:45.105 --> 00:28:46.845
and it was just so decisive
686
00:28:47.315 --> 00:28:50.285
that like Marcus wouldn't have seen that was, that was akin
687
00:28:50.285 --> 00:28:52.165
to like being passed in the short shoot.
688
00:28:52.555 --> 00:28:55.325
Like it's something that was like so random
689
00:28:55.585 --> 00:28:57.725
and he wouldn't have been expecting it. He just, he,
690
00:28:57.825 --> 00:28:59.765
He didn't, he faded right to open the corner
691
00:28:59.905 --> 00:29:01.485
and in the moment of opening the corner,
692
00:29:01.585 --> 00:29:03.125
PLO just fired it in there, right?
693
00:29:03.125 --> 00:29:05.965
Like it was unbelievable. And I, I watched it
694
00:29:05.965 --> 00:29:08.485
Back, wait a hundred, wait, know, 186 laps prior to
695
00:29:08.485 --> 00:29:11.325
that point when however many laps he's done at the 500,
696
00:29:11.325 --> 00:29:13.765
however many laps you do during the month of May,
697
00:29:13.945 --> 00:29:15.525
you're used to the rhythm and the cadence
698
00:29:15.585 --> 00:29:18.405
and yes, we all know it changes with 20 to go like that.
699
00:29:18.405 --> 00:29:20.405
That is, there's a very different level of driving
700
00:29:20.405 --> 00:29:22.485
that occurs and we've all been a part of it, right?
701
00:29:23.105 --> 00:29:25.645
But like, that wasn't a cadence change.
702
00:29:25.675 --> 00:29:28.365
That was just some random move that again,
703
00:29:29.665 --> 00:29:32.755
only I think someone like him would've made
704
00:29:33.025 --> 00:29:36.555
because it just was an instinctual, opportunistic thing.
705
00:29:36.615 --> 00:29:39.875
And so Marcus didn't choke, Marcus didn't do anything wrong.
706
00:29:40.915 --> 00:29:42.045
I feel bad for Marcus
707
00:29:42.045 --> 00:29:46.685
because ultimately, like he could have covered that in,
708
00:29:46.705 --> 00:29:48.085
in hindsight, but you
709
00:29:48.085 --> 00:29:49.325
would've never have thought to do that.
710
00:29:49.325 --> 00:29:51.485
Exactly right. And like, I, I watched it back.
711
00:29:51.905 --> 00:29:55.005
I'm like, again, from the onboard, that's the one,
712
00:29:55.005 --> 00:29:56.645
like from the, from outside, you're like, oh yeah,
713
00:29:56.645 --> 00:29:58.565
he opened it up and he fires it in.
714
00:29:58.565 --> 00:30:00.805
Like why did, why didn't he just like defend it more?
715
00:30:01.025 --> 00:30:02.645
But when you watch it from the onboard,
716
00:30:02.665 --> 00:30:05.085
and again, as someone you've, when you've done it
717
00:30:05.085 --> 00:30:06.325
and you know it, you're like, dude,
718
00:30:06.325 --> 00:30:08.565
you weren't even look like you weren't even there.
719
00:30:08.625 --> 00:30:10.845
No. You looked in your mirror before you opened up.
720
00:30:10.845 --> 00:30:13.205
You're like, we're good and you open up to go.
721
00:30:13.205 --> 00:30:16.525
And he just left this Ah, man. Crazy.
722
00:30:16.765 --> 00:30:18.605
I, and I agree with you. I don't know if it would've changed
723
00:30:18.605 --> 00:30:21.125
the outcome, obviously, but having those four guys all
724
00:30:21.125 --> 00:30:22.925
swapping positions at the front would've been a great
725
00:30:22.925 --> 00:30:24.005
show either way.
726
00:30:24.425 --> 00:30:28.445
The uh, yeah, the inevitability of polo prevailed.
727
00:30:29.065 --> 00:30:33.285
Um, and was, it was a, it was an impressive drive, man.
728
00:30:33.285 --> 00:30:34.405
It was a hell of a drive.
729
00:30:34.505 --> 00:30:35.725
It was a hell of a team effort
730
00:30:36.425 --> 00:30:39.125
and five outta the first six races.
731
00:30:39.195 --> 00:30:41.925
Like what the, what the <inaudible> is that, what,
732
00:30:42.065 --> 00:30:44.125
Six outta first seven if you include the,
733
00:30:44.265 --> 00:30:45.645
the turtle race at the zoo.
734
00:30:46.085 --> 00:30:48.285
I did hear that he beat you in the turtle race at the
735
00:30:48.305 --> 00:30:49.645
zoo and you were very upset.
736
00:30:50.145 --> 00:30:51.965
Oh, I mean, I'm like, I mean, I wasn't upset.
737
00:30:52.085 --> 00:30:53.725
I was just like, yeah, it makes sense. Yeah,
738
00:30:53.755 --> 00:30:56.365
That tracks, that tracks. So, yeah.
739
00:30:56.745 --> 00:30:59.485
Uh, hypothetical, let's say that those guys weren't there.
740
00:30:59.545 --> 00:31:01.245
It had been a bunch of lead changes
741
00:31:01.385 --> 00:31:03.125
and somehow Marcus pulls it out.
742
00:31:03.145 --> 00:31:04.325
Mm-hmm . Did they take the win
743
00:31:04.325 --> 00:31:07.485
away
? We'll never know.
744
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Thank God we never
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have to know the answer to that question.
746
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That was 81 that they did,
747
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that they gave Mario the win the day after
748
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and then changed their mind.
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They gave Mario the win
750
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and then it got the, I think the result changed like
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five months later
752
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or something. It was like September. He still has
753
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The ring, right? ,
754
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I heard a rumor that he threw it into the lake at his lake
755
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house in anger,
756
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Uh, super related, what'd it go Scuba diving in Mario's
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Lake
. Um,
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So this is,
759
00:31:36.745 --> 00:31:39.145
this has been a long episode, long two episodes.
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Um, a couple, a couple final thoughts,
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and I'm sure you have a couple as well, James.
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Um, amazing that we got back to a sellout, you know, so,
763
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so many times, um, since the hundredth, you know,
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Doug would reference, you know, ticket sales are on track
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to be higher than ever before, except for the Indy 500
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or the hundredth running of the Indy 500.
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And we finally got to the point where we matched that.
768
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Um, which is just, it, it shows, I told a lot
769
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of people this, like, it shows the appetite for the sport.
770
00:32:08.805 --> 00:32:12.225
It shows the, the interest level is continuing to rise.
771
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Um, so thank you to all those that showed up.
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Um, Fox Un unbelievable.
773
00:32:19.575 --> 00:32:22.305
Like what, what they did for the entire pre-race.
774
00:32:22.385 --> 00:32:24.865
I felt like I was watching the Super Bowl.
775
00:32:24.985 --> 00:32:26.785
I felt like I was watching the college
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football playoffs college game day.
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00:32:28.465 --> 00:32:30.505
Like it was an incredible production,
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um, from start to finish.
779
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Not that I watched the race, but I'm saying
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all of the lead up stuff.
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Um, so hats off to you and your team James.
782
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Um, and a couple other,
783
00:32:43.525 --> 00:32:45.045
a couple other things that are not positive.
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Uh, we already talked about the Patto thing.
785
00:32:46.785 --> 00:32:50.285
Uh, Kyle Larson, bro, not cool. Um, don't love that.
786
00:32:50.985 --> 00:32:54.005
Uh, whether it was you saying it
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or not is irrelevant, but a thumbs up.
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00:32:55.945 --> 00:32:57.205
Mm, tough look.
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00:32:58.225 --> 00:33:02.325
Um, and yeah, uh, I think the hundred ninth running was
790
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potentially, potentially the best
791
00:33:06.145 --> 00:33:07.165
one I've ever been a part of.
792
00:33:07.355 --> 00:33:10.605
It's hard for me to really remember 2016, um, just
793
00:33:10.725 --> 00:33:11.725
'cause it was all new, so I didn't have
794
00:33:11.845 --> 00:33:12.485
anything to compare it to.
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00:33:13.025 --> 00:33:16.245
But 109 for me was certainly better than 101
796
00:33:16.245 --> 00:33:18.245
through 108 in terms of the entire event
797
00:33:18.265 --> 00:33:20.405
and the feel of the event and, and everything that went on.
798
00:33:20.465 --> 00:33:22.565
So, uh, I'm super proud to be a part of it.
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00:33:22.625 --> 00:33:24.965
And those are, those are the things that I have to say.
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00:33:25.595 --> 00:33:27.605
Yeah, I I echo that last point.
801
00:33:27.865 --> 00:33:28.925
Um, there was,
802
00:33:28.925 --> 00:33:30.485
there was an energy this year that was different.
803
00:33:30.785 --> 00:33:32.285
The every day was busier.
804
00:33:32.505 --> 00:33:36.165
You know, opening day was busier fast. Friday was busier.
805
00:33:36.165 --> 00:33:37.605
Qualifying weekend was busier.
806
00:33:37.675 --> 00:33:39.405
Carb day was, carb day is always busy.
807
00:33:39.945 --> 00:33:42.445
Um, and obviously the race being a sellout was, um,
808
00:33:42.835 --> 00:33:43.925
just, it was awesome.
809
00:33:44.625 --> 00:33:48.005
Um, so I completely agree with you a lot more young people,
810
00:33:48.425 --> 00:33:50.565
you know, on some of those days as well, which I,
811
00:33:50.765 --> 00:33:51.845
I, you know, you love to see.
812
00:33:52.865 --> 00:33:55.645
Um, it does feel like the sport's got a lot
813
00:33:55.645 --> 00:33:56.805
of momentum right now, and the series
814
00:33:56.805 --> 00:33:57.965
has a lot of momentum right now.
815
00:33:58.665 --> 00:34:03.205
Um, like I, I agree on all, all your points.
816
00:34:03.545 --> 00:34:06.845
The Larson thing was disappointing, um, and unnecessary
817
00:34:07.345 --> 00:34:11.285
and, you know, um, I don't, yeah, I don't really want
818
00:34:11.405 --> 00:34:12.565
to get into it 'cause
819
00:34:12.565 --> 00:34:15.285
that's an entire do an entire half episode on that.
820
00:34:15.985 --> 00:34:20.805
Um, and I am gonna echo your
821
00:34:20.805 --> 00:34:22.125
points on Fox, man.
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00:34:22.525 --> 00:34:25.445
I think, uh, I, I want to give a huge round of applause to,
823
00:34:25.465 --> 00:34:27.445
to Buxton because, you know,
824
00:34:27.445 --> 00:34:30.685
he came into this month feeling the weight of
825
00:34:31.235 --> 00:34:35.765
what the Indie 500 means to the, the people that race in it,
826
00:34:35.905 --> 00:34:39.445
the people that work it, and the fans that show up for it
827
00:34:39.465 --> 00:34:40.605
or tune in to watch it.
828
00:34:41.105 --> 00:34:43.565
And he really, he really carried that all month.
829
00:34:43.825 --> 00:34:45.485
He carried that all winter with all the research
830
00:34:45.485 --> 00:34:46.565
that he did and everything.
831
00:34:46.585 --> 00:34:48.005
And, and he really carried it all month.
832
00:34:48.065 --> 00:34:49.885
But I thought he did an awesome job.
833
00:34:50.745 --> 00:34:54.485
Uh, t Bell, Georgia, Kevin, Jamie, everybody on air,
834
00:34:54.585 --> 00:34:55.605
and then obviously all the,
835
00:34:55.605 --> 00:34:57.205
all the extra people that we had in.
836
00:34:57.205 --> 00:34:58.765
But that's just for the whole month, you know,
837
00:34:58.765 --> 00:35:01.525
that were there pounding out practice shows and,
838
00:35:01.585 --> 00:35:04.285
and putting on 40 plus hours of television for everybody.
839
00:35:04.635 --> 00:35:07.685
It's a huge effort. Everyone behind the scenes at Fox,
840
00:35:08.015 --> 00:35:10.725
right from the top, you know, producer Pam and
841
00:35:10.725 --> 00:35:12.205
and director Mitch, those are two of the,
842
00:35:12.205 --> 00:35:13.525
the toughest jobs in the sport.
843
00:35:13.545 --> 00:35:15.325
And they both did their first five hundreds.
844
00:35:15.385 --> 00:35:17.365
And, uh, Jacob, Brad and,
845
00:35:17.365 --> 00:35:19.805
and Eric up at the top running a good ship.
846
00:35:20.465 --> 00:35:23.085
The pre-race show man was incredible. I'm with you.
847
00:35:23.115 --> 00:35:26.565
Like, I was blown away at the production value, the quality,
848
00:35:26.875 --> 00:35:29.605
what we talked about, um, that brick
849
00:35:29.625 --> 00:35:31.325
by Brick mini feature Oh my
850
00:35:31.325 --> 00:35:32.325
God,
Thing.
851
00:35:32.325 --> 00:35:33.365
Like, I wanna see the movie now.
852
00:35:33.395 --> 00:35:35.725
Like, I want that to become a full length feature film.
853
00:35:35.725 --> 00:35:37.245
Like, had goosebumps. They didn't let us
854
00:35:37.245 --> 00:35:38.565
watch it before the broadcast. I,
855
00:35:38.685 --> 00:35:42.085
I finally felt like IndyCar was like cool to watch.
856
00:35:42.145 --> 00:35:44.485
Yes. Like everything about it was just like, this is,
857
00:35:44.485 --> 00:35:45.845
this is the coolest sport in the world
858
00:35:45.845 --> 00:35:48.205
and it's what we've all been begging for for so long,
859
00:35:48.495 --> 00:35:49.495
Right?
860
00:35:49.495 --> 00:35:51.045
And, uh, and so yeah, just super,
861
00:35:51.045 --> 00:35:52.085
super proud of the Fox team.
862
00:35:52.465 --> 00:35:55.085
Um, yes, we had some, there were some technical issues
863
00:35:55.085 --> 00:35:56.125
that happened during the race.
864
00:35:56.685 --> 00:35:59.165
I, I know a lot of you saw them 'cause we heard about it.
865
00:35:59.305 --> 00:36:01.285
We know about it. We are not happy about it.
866
00:36:01.295 --> 00:36:02.765
We're gonna keep working on that stuff.
867
00:36:02.865 --> 00:36:06.645
But I thought overall, uh, it was a great broadcast and, uh,
868
00:36:06.785 --> 00:36:07.925
and it was genuinely
869
00:36:08.045 --> 00:36:09.725
<crosstalk> very well watched broadcast
870
00:36:10.065 --> 00:36:11.205
And a very we'll get, yeah.
871
00:36:11.205 --> 00:36:12.925
And we'll get to that. So thank you
872
00:36:13.185 --> 00:36:14.605
for everybody that tuned in.
873
00:36:14.935 --> 00:36:17.165
7 million viewers average eight point
874
00:36:17.195 --> 00:36:19.085
Beat, the Daytona 500,
Yeah.
875
00:36:19.335 --> 00:36:22.045
Eight point, was it three four peak in the last
876
00:36:22.105 --> 00:36:23.165
couple laps of the race?
877
00:36:23.225 --> 00:36:24.565
Yep. Amazing. First
878
00:36:24.625 --> 00:36:27.565
or third time in 30 years, we've beat the Daytona 500,
879
00:36:27.565 --> 00:36:28.565
which is massive.
880
00:36:29.115 --> 00:36:33.165
Massive. So again, just, just incredible momentum.
881
00:36:33.255 --> 00:36:35.205
Let's keep it rolling. I do wanna know one last thing.
882
00:36:36.705 --> 00:36:40.285
We, in my, we did not in my opinion cover the,
883
00:36:40.285 --> 00:36:42.725
or sorry, we did not cover this in the Prera show,
884
00:36:43.065 --> 00:36:46.325
and it was an oversight on my part and on everyone's part.
885
00:36:46.905 --> 00:36:49.765
Um, I don't think we gave enough attention
886
00:36:49.905 --> 00:36:52.685
and gravity to the fact that Scott Dixon
887
00:36:53.495 --> 00:36:55.245
broke the all time start record
888
00:36:55.385 --> 00:36:56.885
by taking the green flag on Sunday.
889
00:36:57.315 --> 00:37:00.285
408 IndyCar starts passing Mario Andretti
890
00:37:01.445 --> 00:37:02.565
unbelievable feat, man.
891
00:37:02.665 --> 00:37:05.485
And Scott's 44. Mario retired at 54.
892
00:37:06.025 --> 00:37:07.165
I'm not saying he's gonna be doing this
893
00:37:07.165 --> 00:37:09.125
for another 10 years, but at the same time I'm not,
894
00:37:09.145 --> 00:37:10.285
not saying that if
895
00:37:10.285 --> 00:37:12.125
He doesn't win another 500 in the next five,
896
00:37:12.195 --> 00:37:13.525
he's gonna be doing it for another 10.
897
00:37:13.755 --> 00:37:14.965
He's gonna be keeping going. Yeah.
898
00:37:15.025 --> 00:37:18.525
So just huge shout out to Scotty for just being him
899
00:37:18.665 --> 00:37:19.805
and everything he's accomplished.
900
00:37:19.945 --> 00:37:22.565
And this is another cool milestone to add to the,
901
00:37:22.625 --> 00:37:24.005
uh, to the trophy case.
902
00:37:24.905 --> 00:37:27.085
I'm sure we're missing a ton, but we're outta time.
903
00:37:27.545 --> 00:37:31.165
And, uh, just again, thanks to everybody for May, thanks
904
00:37:31.165 --> 00:37:32.485
to everybody that came to the live shows.
905
00:37:32.545 --> 00:37:34.285
Thanks everybody for listening to the show.
906
00:37:34.285 --> 00:37:36.245
Still running into a crazy amount of people that listen
907
00:37:36.245 --> 00:37:37.405
to this, which is wild to me.
908
00:37:37.975 --> 00:37:39.245
Hazel really thought it was funny
909
00:37:39.265 --> 00:37:40.485
and people who were asking me
910
00:37:40.485 --> 00:37:41.685
for pictures, so that was cool.
911
00:37:41.895 --> 00:37:43.005
There you go. And they would know
912
00:37:43.005 --> 00:37:44.445
who Hazel is, which is they
913
00:37:44.445 --> 00:37:46.005
Did, which
Shows what thought was cool
914
00:37:46.945 --> 00:37:49.285
In my busts, in my best Doug Bull's impression.
915
00:37:49.935 --> 00:37:52.605
363 days until the hundred 10th running
916
00:37:52.665 --> 00:37:53.845
of the Indianapolis 500.
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00:37:54.475 --> 00:37:56.325
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