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<v Speaker 1>This is off track.</v>

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I feel like everybody looks like they just woke up

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or everybody's acting like they just woke up

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<v Speaker 2>Up. I did, I just woke up.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Tim, I've been minutes ago.</v>

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I've been up for six hours, but I have not been relaxing

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'cause I've been dealing with a little demon child. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say like, why are you up</v>

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for six hours, man? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He is of</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Course referring to Christian Rasmussen.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, that's so weird. So weird. Maybe, maybe David.</v>

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I mean, David's the only one here

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that I think actually understands TikTok.

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Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, just real quick, welcome to Off Track</v>

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with h Rossi, uh, our guest today, David Lucas.

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Uh, carry on.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, do you think Christian does a good job on his tiktoks?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's doing a pretty good job. Yeah.</v>

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I mean, I think it's been good, brother.

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I think he's been getting really good numbers.

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I mean, we've, we've been talking about it, you know.

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Dang. I think he's been doing good.

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<v Speaker 3>Dang. Good for him. So wait,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>What, what is he doing on, I don't, I don't tick or talk.</v>

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What, what is he doing on there?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not gonna lie to</v>

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you. I, I actually struggle with TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly making fun of me.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you? Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. TikTok iss not our strong suit.</v>

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I'm more just, just on Instagram,

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but I have seen some, some things of him

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and he does just make fun of ve Rossi.

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<v Speaker 1>I</v>
<v Speaker 3>Did wanna, that's probably why you</v>

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like, I'm start TikTok now.

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I did. Uh, I did want

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to ask you about your social media a little bit,

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um, where No, no, no.

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So where do you come up with,

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'cause like you do these series of photos

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and dude, some of 'em are so random

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and so weird,  like where did,

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where does the inspiration come from?

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Do you see other people doing it

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or is it just literally the first thing that comes

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to your head and you're like, I'm gonna include that?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, most of the time it's</v>

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the first thing that comes in my head.

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Um, a lot of the, the ideas

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and things that we come up with is mostly just kind of like,

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that's, that's something that's in my head.

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Let's, let's do it the more like out pocket. So

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<v Speaker 3>There</v>
<v Speaker 2>Brand, so there's not, well, sometimes,</v>

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sometimes it, it is planned brain Rob.

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But like, this recent video

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that we've done is doing fantastic where I said

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that the NTT IndyCar series logo actually spells out

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NTT IndyCar series.

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<v Speaker 3>What?</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the,</v>

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that's it's, I thought it was hilarious.

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And it's actually, it's doing really well.

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It's got like 200,000 views. So

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<v Speaker 1>Look, looking this up now, I need to, I need to understand</v>

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what we're talking about here, what

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we're, what we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>Here.</v>

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a six

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second clip watching. It's good,

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<v Speaker 3>It's good.</v>

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But then, but then you, but then you have like these random

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things where I, I think I saw one

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where you jump in your bus and then you disappear.

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Like what ? Like what is,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude.</v>

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Well it was, I did listen. I was just bored.

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I was doing a Q and a and then I was like, well

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mess Ronaldo.

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And I was just thinking in my head, I was like, I just kind

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of want to do a quick edit.

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So then I just did Ronaldo celebration.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you doing, are you doing these things?</v>

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Because I know, I know you have Alex Brisbee

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as from a photographer standpoint

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and like he helps, uh, video edit.

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But are you doing like these short things

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yourself? Like do you have the skills

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<v Speaker 2>To do that?</v>

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Well that, that video I did myself where I just disappeared.

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I just did that myself 'cause I was a bit bored.

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But a lot, the high quality stuff is Alex. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I</v>
<v Speaker 1>Gotta be honest, I just watched the clip.</v>

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It's pretty funny. Like, it's, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It it, it is pretty funny. It's pretty funny.</v>

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It's funny because it's like Ted People's times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's, but it's, it's, it's tongue in cheek.</v>

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It's satirical. You're making fun of people

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that do these like, just realized videos

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that are actually just so farfetched

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and kind of stupid where you're like,

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I just realized the words.

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NTT IndyCar series. Spell the words.

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N That's funny. I get that. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's, see, it is funny, man. I don't know.</v>

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To me it's fantastic. And people definitely

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will, well they're

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scrolling.
<v Speaker 3>. It's so weird.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well, 'cause that's, so that was, I had that idea</v>

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'cause we saw something, so,

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but I was like, dude, let's do something like that.

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And Alex created it. So it was awesome. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So wait, when you say you got the idea,</v>

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let's do something like that.

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Where are you getting these ideas? .

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They're just literally popping in your

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<v Speaker 2>Head.</v>

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Listen, I, yeah, from my head, from my feed,

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that one's very similar to, I saw it on my feed.

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It was like a, a shark.

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Somebody just photoshopped a shark doing it

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and then it was like had some toy thing

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that they would make us make a sound.

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They flip it around and makes another sound.

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So I was like, why don't we just do that? I know that toy.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you do.

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And I was like, well let's just do that.

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But then we'll say, yo, we're here at Detroit.

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And then I walk away. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I I I'm blown away by it.</v>

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Um, you know, I think everyone realizes like how small

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of a job driving the race car is in the actual job

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description of being a race car driver in terms

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of the amount of time that you get to do it.

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Um, and so many of these other things are like critical to,

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to building, you know, the brand awareness and,

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and becoming relatable to people and,

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and like, you're killing it.

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So, um, well thank you. Good job, man.

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I like, I don't, I don't relate to it

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'cause I'm not your demographic,

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but I can still appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it, it begs the question,</v>

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and we're gonna get into some more

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of this stuff in a second here.

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But like, you're, you're now teammates with Santino Ferucci.

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Does Santino like make appearances in your videos?

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Instagram video world?

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Like in the social media in the same

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way?
<v Speaker 3>, he's like, nah, .</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. He's, he,</v>

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he doesn't, no, he doesn't get it.

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He is very confused. So, um, we did one video with him for,

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for the AJ Foyt account, which actually was very well, um,

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it was kind of like a trend going around.

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We were like drop like he, I dropped the paper

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and he picks it up and then I ended up signing it.

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We did vice versa. But outside of that, no.

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'cause he really just doesn't, he doesn't get it.

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He's not on that. Not on the realm. See,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why, that's like why when,</v>

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whenever Rossi like the beginning of every year, the team

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that he is with is just like, all right,

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how do we make Rossi as uncomfortable as possible

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and as many social media like challenges

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and videos as possible.

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Listen and that's the best part about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I, I learned a lot from Patto</v>

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and I actually learned a lot from David in the,

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in the short period of time.

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Like, you gotta, you gotta play into who you are.

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And so, like, me being the miserable guy,

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like some people like it, some people can, can,

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<v Speaker 2>Can relate to.</v>

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I think out of everybody Rossi is like peak comedy.

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I think he's hilarious just from, if you just talk

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to him from a normal guy, he's just, he can come up

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with something so funny in 0.2 milliseconds.

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Like he's just naturally hilarious.

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So comedy wise, it,

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and especially this year, I think the content

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that you've been doing has been really funny.

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Really good. I don't know, there's that one ad that you did

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and you were like fast typing

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and then you put your leg on the table as well

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and getting real into it. Yeah, yeah. That

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<v Speaker 3>Was performance.</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever thought about performance bringing any of</v>

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that humor to off track?

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<v Speaker 3>No. Yeah, I feel like it'd be a nice change. No, no, no.</v>

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Small dose. Anyways.

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Alright, so let's talk about some racing.

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Um, I I, I got a little bit of a debrief from you David

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'cause we sat next to each other coming back from, um,

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the parade during the month of May Indie and,

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and kind of heard about your year, but,

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but tell the viewers, um, you know, I think there was a lot

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of excitement about, um, in the off season you going to,

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to AJ Foyt.

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Obviously they had a breakout year last year

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with Santino finishing top 10 points.

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Um, you know, good driver pairing.

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Obviously everyone knows the, the talent

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and the speed you had in the car teams

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on the up, all this stuff.

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Penske connection. And I think

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that maybe the first couple races, um,

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maybe didn't meet everyone's expectations, including yours.

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Boom, indie happens second place challenging for the win.

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And now you seem to kind of be on this trajectory

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where you are at the front and

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and doing things that everyone thought you'd be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, you know, going into it,</v>

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I think it's just also just from Meyer Shank the previous

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year, I think we managed to kind of get going pretty quick.

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Uh, but I think it's just 'cause from at that time

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with their alliance within Dre, there's

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so many different setups

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and we managed to pick off of pretty sure it was a mix off

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of Herda setup that managed to,

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to work well with something that I liked.

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And I think that's why we, we went off of somewhere

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that was, that worked.

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But for this season, going off of um, Santino setup

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to start with definitely wasn't something that I was

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familiar with and didn't enjoy.

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So really had to work hard on trying

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to figure out a different direction.

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Uh, try to get everything going.

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But it kind of, I started thinking back

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to my first time coming into IndyCar with Dale Coy

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with all the, the new crew

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and everybody being new it things didn't really turn around

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for us until after month of May.

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Just being with the guys every single

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day, you're always there.

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You wake up racing, you're gonna bed, it's racing.

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You're always just in that realm.

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And I kind of had this similar aspect.

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I remember doing interviews and stuff

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before thinking, telling everybody, I think pretty much

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after month of May is when things should start going in the

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right direction and kind of has been it's, it kind

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of did go to that plan.

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Um, thankfully things finally did start turning around Month

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of May was fantastic.

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And then going into Detroit, I, we were already close

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to finding a good street course car, uh, after St.

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Pete and Long Beach. And I feel like finally Detroit,

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we managed to figure it out.

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Um, and short o of course,

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I think their short O car has been great in years past.

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So the one question that I have is going into this

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next week in Road America.

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It's the, the one challenge that I think we still have

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to step up is finding a road course car that I like.

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So that's kind of the last kind of stepping stone.

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But other than that, I think we've all kind of managed to,

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to finally figure things out.

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And having all the new guys too on the pit crew

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and things, they've turned it up as well

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and now the pit stops have been on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you, you bring up a good point about like having this</v>

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kind of realistic approach that

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after month of May is really when we could start

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to see some progress and start to see some result do.

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And you talk about, you know, being with the guys you know,

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up at the shop and spending some time with them, whatever.

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Do you feel like the month of May really helps kind

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of accelerate that process

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because you are at the racetrack

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for 50 hours in practice week.

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Like that's, you're doing five weekends worth of, you know,

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normal race time with your crew in

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that kind of five day period.

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Do you think that kind of helps move

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that along quicker? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>100%.</v>

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I I, every, every single year, every time we, we do month

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of May, any of those kind of initial quirks that you need

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to figure out and understand between each other,

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they kind of all go away.

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'cause you're just there constantly all the time 24 7.

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So you tend to, I,

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after the whole month of May, you know,

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you're like sick of Indy after that point.

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It's like, man, this is a lot every single day.

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But it's, it, it helps a lot just to understand everything

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with the guys and from their side to understand

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what I want from the car.

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<v Speaker 1>So you, you're saying that the setups that you came into</v>

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that Santino had kind

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of been running haven't really worked for you.

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Is that, is that true across the board?

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So, so far, street course, road course,

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super Speedway, short oval.

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Have you guys kind of had to diverge quite a bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, I think when it comes to the,</v>

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the oval perspective, not as much, but from a street course

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and row course setup, yes.

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Pretty, pretty drastic.

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Um, he likes a car that's a bit more on the loose end.

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I like something that's a bit more underneath me,

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more confidence, inspiring.

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So had to do, um, a little bit like a, you know,

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reverse card between the, between the setups.

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So , we were trying to figure it out,

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first year races being a little bit lost,

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but we're finally on the right trajectory now.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of that is tied into like what Penske's doing,</v>

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because I know you guys have

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access to their information question.

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Oh,  like, are you, are you,

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do you find yourself maybe closer to what a power's running,

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McLaughlin's running than what Santino does?

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Or are you kind of out on an island?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we, we have, we finally got their data, honestly</v>

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through all through the setups

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that we've seen we're more similar to Scott.

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So that's kind of been something that we veered off of

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and, and working from there.

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Um, but from, from the rest

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of the guys, it's, it's pretty interesting.

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Everybody kind of has their own kind of realm of,

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of of car set up.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's fast forward through Detroit.</v>

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I mean obviously, um, great qualifying best Chevy on a,

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on a track that obviously isn't suited for Chevy tough race,

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whatever happens, who cares?

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Um, going to Gateway, like that's a place

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that you've obviously had massive amount

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of success at across now three different teams.

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Um, what two things, one, what is it about Gateway

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and two, did you have any like,

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concerns going into it being like, man, like

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is is it, is it me like am I really good here

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or have I just been pretty lucky

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to have some really good cars here?

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Like where was your thought process going into the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I was definitely like scared for sure .</v>

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I was, I thought it was gonna be just a car set. There's

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<v Speaker 3>So much hype about you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much hype.</v>

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IndyCar always does me dirty with it.

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They're like, yeah, so David, this is, he's top pick,

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you know, he is really good here.

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And first year I came in with Dale, they had success

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with other drivers in the past with that set at Gateway.

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It's been a very good car. Then we come up with Shank car.

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I mean it was a fantastic car.

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Felix qualified in front of me at that point.

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I think he took an engine penalty that

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that weekend again, very good car.

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So I'm coming in this weekend

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and I was like, well I know the car's good,

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but like I, you know, I don't, is it again,

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but again, I do think the car's very good.

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So I think it's it's still kind of in

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that domino effect to, to play.

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Maybe it's gateway, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>Not.</v>

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No, no, it, it can't be.

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Like it's, it is definitely like you've got

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that place figured out just like Connor, you know,

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seems to go really well there.

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Obviously Joseph goes really well there,

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so I don't think you can, you can take away the credit from,

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from yourself, but certainly like I've had it in the past,

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like going back to Long Beach, you know,

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after dominant years there you're just like, man,

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is this gonna keep happening

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or am I gonna show up one year and it's gonna suck? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>Just gonna win the 500 every year ?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well I did have that thought, I</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Did have that thought.</v>

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tunes

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<v Speaker 1>A coincidence.</v>

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Two's a coincidence. Three is a trend.

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So the trend was there. I

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gotta, let's just, let's get into the race because Lap won.

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Okay, let's just do that. David's like it.

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I'm just gonna leave this thing instead of being forth.

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Well it's sounds more fun. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I was actually talking to,</v>

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to New Garden before the race.

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He uploads all of his footages from last year onto YouTube.

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So I, um, I was just looking at his onboard footage, um,

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from the race start and I saw that, um,

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will Power, I think was fourth last year.

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And he just went run around the outside

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and ended up being like P two

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after like the whole sequence formed out.

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So I was like, okay, well I'll just,

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I'll just do that, see how that plays out.

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And so ran the outside line, did the high line

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and obviously the car felt very good up there

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and got comfortable with it.

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And so we just went right up there.

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And then I had a good run on power.

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So then I went for the lead

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and I was like, okay, this is cool.

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I'll get some some lapse in in P one. It is gonna look nice.

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But yeah, the star man, it just went off

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and honestly I was so shocked.

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We were trying to make sure that our car was gonna be set up

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for when the sun went away

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and it was gonna get, you know, night.

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But for some reason our car was just on

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rails on that first run.

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I mean, it was so fast.

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Tires were not falling off

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and it was, I was looking

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like, wow, this is gonna be a good race.

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But as soon as the sun went away

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and it, it got dark, it's, I don't know if, if we went down

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or if everybody else went up, I'm not too sure how

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what happened, but then it felt more

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of a even playing field after that.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the, what was the balance shift</v>

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for you when the sun went down?

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<v Speaker 2>I surprisingly with the sun going out,</v>

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I thought it was gonna be more grip and I actually just

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lost grip in three and four.

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I mean, the car was just so loose on that entry, man.

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I was having these big, big moments.

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So I don't know what that was all about,

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but it kind of caught me off guard.

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And then we were trying to figure it out from that point

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and how to obviously kind of minimize

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<v Speaker 3>It.</v>

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It, it seemed like the, the big separation from everyone

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that I talked to was most definitely three, four.

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Um, and like you had guys that were either like super sorted

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or guys were loose as hell.

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Um, it was like, there's no real in-between.

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I was talking to, uh, sorry I wasn't,

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but I heard, uh, power after the race.

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He was like, yeah man, like up

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until we had the tire failure,

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like I didn't lift in three four ones and I was like, dang.

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Like that's, that's pretty legit. Must be nice.

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Must must be pretty cool. .

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

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I I also heard him say that in the interview

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and I was kind of like, really not.

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Yeah, not one time, no. Okay. That sounds cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I I I was lifting pretty much every lap, so Oh,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I, I was lifting.</v>

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I didn't, yeah, 260 times. . .

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.</v>

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Fourth gear as well was sweet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Same.</v>

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Yeah. Alright, so you, you're we're past half distance,

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obviously a lot of dramas happened.

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Um, I haven't watched the race back,

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but I kind of saw that, that the highlight low light

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for you, but the highlight reel you're racing Kyle turn

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three, four, um, he has a bit

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of a moment it seems like moves up a little bit.

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You get into the, the sketchy part in the gray, great safe

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to obviously not have a Louis Foster type incident.

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Um, brush the wall, it goes yellow.

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Walk us through, then what

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happens for the rest of your night?

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'cause it kind of seemed like from that point forward

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was something bent, you know, was were you just trying

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to just bring it home at that point?

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Like, like what happened? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

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So that wall man, we hit that thing, so god damn hard.

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It was a hard hit. Uh, it was not light.

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I, it looked, I watched the, it

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't a brush,</v>
<v Speaker 1>It looked light on tv, but</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but man, no, it was a big smash.</v>

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So my whole steering, I like a pretty

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big offset on the straight.

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So normally when I was racing it was this,

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after the hit it was just straight so, so, so

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and a massive I vibra, yeah, there was a massive vibration.

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I don't, I couldn't tell if it was on the, on the right rear

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or if it was the front right, but a massive vibration

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after the pit stop, there's a massive chunk

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of concrete in the tire.

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So we finished that stint with concrete,

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just shoved in there.

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Um, so I, I can't believe honestly

488
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that we somehow finished that race.

489
00:17:38.435 --> 00:17:41.335
So I had a, the, i, we were kind of guessed,

490
00:17:41.335 --> 00:17:44.735
thankfully we had to pass the pay car and do a lap around

491
00:17:45.055 --> 00:17:46.295
'cause of the whole Dixon deal.

492
00:17:46.835 --> 00:17:50.005
So that lap around, I went just back into, you know, uh,

493
00:17:50.005 --> 00:17:52.725
just push map and kind of pushed one and two and three

494
00:17:52.725 --> 00:17:53.965
and four a little bit to kind

495
00:17:53.965 --> 00:17:55.765
of get a rough idea of where we were at.

496
00:17:56.065 --> 00:17:57.285
And it was just super loose.

497
00:17:57.385 --> 00:18:00.725
So I moved the weight jacker, I mean like

498
00:18:01.705 --> 00:18:04.885
pretty much all the way to the right, all the tools just to,

499
00:18:04.905 --> 00:18:06.205
to counter the over steer.

500
00:18:06.705 --> 00:18:09.085
And then after the first three laps on the restart,

501
00:18:09.145 --> 00:18:11.845
we were kind of in between getting smashed in.

502
00:18:12.725 --> 00:18:14.405
I mean I think it was Rasmussen

503
00:18:14.565 --> 00:18:16.285
'cause he was like maximum push.

504
00:18:16.785 --> 00:18:18.845
He came on the inside, smashed me up

505
00:18:18.845 --> 00:18:20.205
and then I got stuck into VK

506
00:18:20.205 --> 00:18:21.485
and then got more damage from that.

507
00:18:21.545 --> 00:18:24.925
So it was a lot of chaos on that restart happening.

508
00:18:24.985 --> 00:18:27.005
But the meantime, I was just trying to figure out

509
00:18:27.495 --> 00:18:30.285
where the setup has just moved because it was pretty drastic

510
00:18:30.825 --> 00:18:32.765
and after two to three laps we figured it out,

511
00:18:32.765 --> 00:18:34.245
but obviously already lost about five,

512
00:18:34.345 --> 00:18:35.485
six positions from there.

513
00:18:36.145 --> 00:18:39.125
Um, and then it, from that point on, it was okay, we made it

514
00:18:39.125 --> 00:18:41.285
to the end, new tires came on and that vibration went away

515
00:18:41.305 --> 00:18:43.125
and they told me that there was just concrete

516
00:18:43.225 --> 00:18:45.525
and in the other tires. So.

517
00:18:45.665 --> 00:18:47.325
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. That's wild.</v>

518
00:18:47.995 --> 00:18:50.405
It's uh, it's such a bummer though when you're having a

519
00:18:50.405 --> 00:18:52.805
night, like you were having, everything was going well.

520
00:18:53.405 --> 00:18:57.205
I mean, how did you see the situation with Kyle?

521
00:18:57.325 --> 00:18:59.005
I mean, he's coming outta the pits, cold tires.

522
00:18:59.305 --> 00:19:01.645
You had pit a, a lap or two laps

523
00:19:01.645 --> 00:19:03.725
before you're coming with a head of steam.

524
00:19:04.065 --> 00:19:05.885
How did, how did you see it from your side? Yeah,

525
00:19:06.005 --> 00:19:07.565
<v Speaker 2>'cause I was running the second lane in three</v>

526
00:19:07.565 --> 00:19:09.125
and four, um, laps previous.

527
00:19:09.125 --> 00:19:10.885
And since there was only like two laps on the tire,

528
00:19:11.005 --> 00:19:12.685
I mean you can pretty much hold it, no problem.

529
00:19:13.305 --> 00:19:15.405
Um, and I was kind of holding a little bit back

530
00:19:15.465 --> 00:19:17.285
and he had a, a little bit of a moment initially,

531
00:19:17.305 --> 00:19:19.045
so I thought, okay, he's, he's had his moment,

532
00:19:19.065 --> 00:19:20.685
he has it his position now.

533
00:19:20.685 --> 00:19:22.245
So then that's when I accelerated

534
00:19:22.625 --> 00:19:24.165
and I accelerated right beside him.

535
00:19:24.165 --> 00:19:25.285
And then he had another wiggle

536
00:19:25.385 --> 00:19:26.925
and then that made me react to it

537
00:19:26.925 --> 00:19:28.645
and that little react got me into the

538
00:19:28.645 --> 00:19:29.805
marbles and sent me up.

539
00:19:30.185 --> 00:19:32.485
So nothing from him, I mean he, he sent me a text

540
00:19:32.485 --> 00:19:35.125
to apologize afterwards, which I didn't even, I mean,

541
00:19:35.125 --> 00:19:36.405
I didn't think there's any need for it.

542
00:19:36.645 --> 00:19:38.885
'cause just from my side it was a bit ambitious of a move

543
00:19:38.885 --> 00:19:39.925
to, to go for that.

544
00:19:40.235 --> 00:19:42.325
Like, I knew he was on cold tires, just trying

545
00:19:42.325 --> 00:19:45.165
to time the run and just mistimed it there.

546
00:19:45.505 --> 00:19:46.925
So had that moment there

547
00:19:46.925 --> 00:19:49.445
and then obviously made another mistake on the restart

548
00:19:49.445 --> 00:19:50.445
and that was kind of, but

549
00:19:50.445 --> 00:19:52.485
after that impact, our race was pretty much kind

550
00:19:52.485 --> 00:19:55.045
of holding on, just making sure that we'd bring it home.

551
00:19:55.515 --> 00:19:57.485
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's, it's, it's just interesting hearing</v>

552
00:19:57.505 --> 00:19:59.205
how hard it was from inside the car

553
00:19:59.205 --> 00:20:01.365
because like, like in years past,

554
00:20:02.125 --> 00:20:03.605
I think even years past here at Gateway,

555
00:20:03.895 --> 00:20:07.325
we've seen guys go up, brush the wall, keep going,

556
00:20:07.465 --> 00:20:08.725
and we never even had a yellow

557
00:20:09.785 --> 00:20:11.685
and it looked like you barely hit.

558
00:20:11.685 --> 00:20:14.325
So I, I was almost half expecting us to stay green,

559
00:20:14.785 --> 00:20:17.965
but then obviously IndyCar had a better sense of, of

560
00:20:17.965 --> 00:20:19.725
how hard you hit and you know, we're trying

561
00:20:19.725 --> 00:20:21.725
to avoid a situation if you did bend

562
00:20:21.725 --> 00:20:22.965
something like what we had with Foster.

563
00:20:23.385 --> 00:20:24.885
So credit to them for getting the yellow

564
00:20:24.945 --> 00:20:26.005
out, like immediately.

565
00:20:26.505 --> 00:20:28.325
Um, but yeah, it's,

566
00:20:28.325 --> 00:20:29.885
it is kinda interesting hearing the driver perspective.

567
00:20:30.125 --> 00:20:31.165
'cause from the outside it looked pretty,

568
00:20:31.165 --> 00:20:32.725
pretty innocuous. I also

569
00:20:32.745 --> 00:20:34.205
<v Speaker 2>Saw some, some stuff online</v>

570
00:20:34.225 --> 00:20:37.245
of people getting upset about IndyCar calling the

571
00:20:37.245 --> 00:20:38.565
yellow so quick there.

572
00:20:38.665 --> 00:20:41.085
But you also have to go off of their perspective with

573
00:20:41.085 --> 00:20:43.605
what happened to foster earlier that race for sure.

574
00:20:43.605 --> 00:20:46.125
And that caused a massive crash, which was not quick. It's

575
00:20:46.125 --> 00:20:48.325
<v Speaker 1>Almost, which was the exact opposite way.</v>

576
00:20:48.325 --> 00:20:50.365
And people were upset about how long that one took.

577
00:20:50.465 --> 00:20:51.965
<v Speaker 2>So that one took, but it's like, you know,</v>

578
00:20:51.965 --> 00:20:53.605
IndyCar's thinking, oh he is gonna save it.

579
00:20:53.605 --> 00:20:56.805
Oh he didn't and now you see an exact replay happen with me.

580
00:20:57.065 --> 00:20:58.965
Of course they're gonna call the yellow out immediately

581
00:20:59.165 --> 00:21:00.725
'cause they're gonna think, okay, this could be an

582
00:21:00.725 --> 00:21:01.845
exact replay what happened with Foster

583
00:21:02.385 --> 00:21:03.385
<v Speaker 1>As they should, right?</v>

584
00:21:03.385 --> 00:21:05.685
Like if the car brushes the wall, it doesn't matter how,

585
00:21:05.685 --> 00:21:07.085
if there's contact with the

586
00:21:07.085 --> 00:21:08.565
wall, the yellow should come out.

587
00:21:08.625 --> 00:21:10.845
It doesn't, it's just not worth the risk. Right.

588
00:21:11.945 --> 00:21:13.725
Uh, okay, so, so Gateway's done.

589
00:21:13.725 --> 00:21:14.925
We head to Road America next.

590
00:21:14.925 --> 00:21:17.125
You kind of talked about how the road courses are the next

591
00:21:17.835 --> 00:21:20.765
sort of hurdle you guys have to have to overcome as a,

592
00:21:20.765 --> 00:21:22.285
as a team from a setup standpoint.

593
00:21:22.345 --> 00:21:25.045
But just kinda let looking forward to the rest

594
00:21:25.045 --> 00:21:26.965
of the calendar, what are the ones that you've kind

595
00:21:26.965 --> 00:21:28.965
of circled as races you're really excited to get to

596
00:21:28.965 --> 00:21:30.725
with this, this team and this car? Pretty,

597
00:21:30.845 --> 00:21:31.965
<v Speaker 2>I mean, all the short ovals,</v>

598
00:21:31.965 --> 00:21:33.125
very excited for all that stuff.

599
00:21:33.125 --> 00:21:35.605
Yeah, I, you know, also , it's a good car

600
00:21:35.705 --> 00:21:39.845
and also Santino man, he, he knows he can race on,

601
00:21:40.025 --> 00:21:41.325
on just anything pretty much.

602
00:21:41.385 --> 00:21:44.205
But ovals man, he's really good at understanding how

603
00:21:44.205 --> 00:21:46.205
to set people up, set up these timed runs.

604
00:21:46.745 --> 00:21:47.965
So just seeing his video

605
00:21:48.225 --> 00:21:50.805
and understanding it, it's, it's pretty good knowledge.

606
00:21:50.805 --> 00:21:51.965
It's, it's pretty interesting to see.

607
00:21:52.425 --> 00:21:53.965
So I'm really excited for all that stuff.

608
00:21:53.985 --> 00:21:56.405
But I'm most excited just for road courses, man.

609
00:21:56.445 --> 00:21:58.285
I really want to get, it's kind of just to me feels like

610
00:21:58.285 --> 00:22:00.325
that last block that we want to figure out.

611
00:22:00.905 --> 00:22:03.045
And once we figure that out, man, it's, it's,

612
00:22:03.245 --> 00:22:05.365
I I think we're gonna be in a really good spot for the rest

613
00:22:05.365 --> 00:22:07.805
of the season and then just need to be, um,

614
00:22:08.125 --> 00:22:10.685
a little bit more, more careful, careful in these races

615
00:22:10.685 --> 00:22:12.245
and just try to secure some points. .

616
00:22:12.945 --> 00:22:16.285
<v Speaker 3>So I'd be, I'd be remiss to let you go without asking.</v>

617
00:22:16.705 --> 00:22:19.565
You know, there's been a lot of media and,

618
00:22:19.585 --> 00:22:21.205
and everything this time of year, well,

619
00:22:21.515 --> 00:22:22.885
it's not even this time of year anymore,

620
00:22:22.955 --> 00:22:24.845
it's just all the time right about

621
00:22:24.985 --> 00:22:25.985
<v Speaker 1>All year long.</v>

622
00:22:25.985 --> 00:22:27.525
<v Speaker 3>What's, what's David gonna do next?</v>

623
00:22:27.705 --> 00:22:30.125
You know, what's Penske's driver lineup gonna look like?

624
00:22:30.185 --> 00:22:33.325
All these sort of things. I don't need you to tell me

625
00:22:33.325 --> 00:22:36.205
what you're doing, what you've talked about, what you know,

626
00:22:36.705 --> 00:22:40.005
but how do you keep yourself kind of focused on, you know,

627
00:22:40.345 --> 00:22:43.285
the day to day Road America next weekend Iowa test,

628
00:22:43.905 --> 00:22:46.965
you know, the summer stretch that we have while there is all

629
00:22:46.965 --> 00:22:49.445
this conversation around things that are, I mean, it,

630
00:22:49.545 --> 00:22:50.885
I'm sure there's some truth to some

631
00:22:50.885 --> 00:22:53.165
of it at some point it's exciting things, right?

632
00:22:53.235 --> 00:22:55.085
It's, it's things you want to be associated with.

633
00:22:55.705 --> 00:22:58.605
Um, how do you just stay focused on on what you're doing

634
00:22:58.705 --> 00:23:00.165
and, and take it one day at a time?

635
00:23:00.485 --> 00:23:02.565
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, in, in the beginning of the season,</v>

636
00:23:02.805 --> 00:23:06.085
I think a lot of that was a bit harder to kind of get past,

637
00:23:06.545 --> 00:23:09.365
um, just with, with the rumors coming in,

638
00:23:09.385 --> 00:23:11.845
but now obviously seeing it all come in

639
00:23:12.025 --> 00:23:14.685
and just also from last year, there's

640
00:23:14.685 --> 00:23:15.725
so many different rumors

641
00:23:15.725 --> 00:23:18.845
and always jumping around like last year was awful

642
00:23:18.945 --> 00:23:20.845
and really hard with the whole hand

643
00:23:21.245 --> 00:23:22.405
situation and jumping into teams.

644
00:23:22.545 --> 00:23:25.085
So I almost feel like I'm a little bit used to it now.

645
00:23:25.105 --> 00:23:27.885
And I mean, a lot of the rumors were wrong last year

646
00:23:27.985 --> 00:23:30.605
and I, I fear some of 'em are wrong this year as well.

647
00:23:30.705 --> 00:23:34.485
So from my side, I, I I, I don't know, it's something

648
00:23:34.485 --> 00:23:36.125
that I've been able to just switch off.

649
00:23:36.125 --> 00:23:37.565
It doesn't really affect me anymore.

650
00:23:37.565 --> 00:23:39.525
It's more just interesting to read all the ideas

651
00:23:39.525 --> 00:23:41.005
that people come up with, um,

652
00:23:41.305 --> 00:23:42.885
and seeing how the rumors even

653
00:23:42.885 --> 00:23:44.245
started informed in the first place.

654
00:23:44.825 --> 00:23:46.685
I'm interested to see who's the one that like,

655
00:23:46.685 --> 00:23:48.645
keeps speaking about 'em, but I don't know,

656
00:23:48.645 --> 00:23:50.485
going into the car doesn't, doesn't um,

657
00:23:51.025 --> 00:23:52.285
hasn't been affecting me recently.

658
00:23:52.285 --> 00:23:53.445
It's been, um, pretty calm.

659
00:23:54.225 --> 00:23:55.525
I'm just happy that I'm comfortable.

660
00:23:56.505 --> 00:23:58.275
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, so it's good. Yeah.</v>

661
00:23:58.275 --> 00:23:59.275
Let me, lemme just ask you this quick.

662
00:23:59.575 --> 00:24:02.035
So you, you came in with Dale Coin racing,

663
00:24:02.815 --> 00:24:06.195
you had a brief stint sort of with McLaren,

664
00:24:06.415 --> 00:24:07.635
not you never went to race with them,

665
00:24:07.635 --> 00:24:08.635
but you got to be around the team.

666
00:24:08.635 --> 00:24:10.155
You gotta see how they worked. You did some testing,

667
00:24:10.505 --> 00:24:12.835
then you did some races with Meyer Shank, now with Fot.

668
00:24:12.895 --> 00:24:15.395
So in a relatively, you know, you're a young kid,

669
00:24:15.395 --> 00:24:17.715
you've had, uh, exposure at least

670
00:24:17.715 --> 00:24:18.875
to several different teams now.

671
00:24:19.345 --> 00:24:23.035
What is it you think that Fot does really well as a team

672
00:24:23.215 --> 00:24:25.115
and what do you think is kind of the biggest area

673
00:24:25.225 --> 00:24:27.915
that you're trying to help that team improve based on

674
00:24:27.915 --> 00:24:29.315
what you've seen from other places?

675
00:24:29.735 --> 00:24:31.955
<v Speaker 2>The thing that they do really well is the balance between</v>

676
00:24:31.955 --> 00:24:34.355
that kind of family oriented feeling

677
00:24:34.455 --> 00:24:35.795
to being very professional.

678
00:24:35.995 --> 00:24:37.315
I think they, they do that perfectly.

679
00:24:37.655 --> 00:24:40.355
Um, it's, I feel like it's such a, a, a balance

680
00:24:40.385 --> 00:24:41.435
that you need to have.

681
00:24:41.455 --> 00:24:43.195
And I think some teams go a little bit more

682
00:24:43.195 --> 00:24:44.235
in one direction than the other.

683
00:24:44.815 --> 00:24:46.955
Um, so it's like a good balance of leniency

684
00:24:46.975 --> 00:24:49.475
to making sure things are strict and organized and planned.

685
00:24:50.015 --> 00:24:52.435
Um, the one thing that, you know,

686
00:24:52.475 --> 00:24:54.395
I think we're working on is just a lot of new guys,

687
00:24:54.455 --> 00:24:56.275
you know, just from my side, but also when it comes

688
00:24:56.275 --> 00:24:57.475
to the mechanics and the crew.

689
00:24:57.935 --> 00:25:00.395
We have a lot of new guys on board, so it's more just trying

690
00:25:00.395 --> 00:25:02.395
to gel and, and figure all that stuff together.

691
00:25:02.915 --> 00:25:04.755
I think there, there was in the beginning of the season,

692
00:25:05.115 --> 00:25:06.795
pressure just from all around from people.

693
00:25:07.015 --> 00:25:09.795
So I was making mistakes. Other guys are making mistakes.

694
00:25:09.805 --> 00:25:11.955
We're all kind of making mistakes that we kind of needed to,

695
00:25:12.535 --> 00:25:14.835
to clean up and, and get organized, which again, month

696
00:25:14.835 --> 00:25:17.315
of May, what better way to get comfortable than being

697
00:25:17.315 --> 00:25:20.115
with the car every single day doing pit stops every single

698
00:25:20.175 --> 00:25:21.715
day, you know, going ins and outs.

699
00:25:21.715 --> 00:25:22.915
I'm on track every single day.

700
00:25:22.915 --> 00:25:24.035
Everybody gets comfortable and,

701
00:25:24.035 --> 00:25:25.875
and understands everything that much more.

702
00:25:26.055 --> 00:25:28.675
So that's why we kinda had that big twist.

703
00:25:28.815 --> 00:25:32.475
So still again, little finite things on, on that perspective

704
00:25:32.475 --> 00:25:34.435
that we need to work on, but, you know, it's,

705
00:25:34.435 --> 00:25:35.835
it's coming together really well here.

706
00:25:35.985 --> 00:25:38.595
<v Speaker 1>Very cool, man. Well, like you say, you had a bit of a,</v>

707
00:25:39.255 --> 00:25:41.755
an emotional rollercoaster of the last 12 months,

708
00:25:41.895 --> 00:25:43.595
but you seem to be on a high right now.

709
00:25:43.595 --> 00:25:46.275
Things are rolling Well, so we wish you all the best

710
00:25:46.415 --> 00:25:47.715
and continued success.

711
00:25:48.195 --> 00:25:50.515
I mean, not that much honestly. Yeah, sorry.

712
00:25:50.755 --> 00:25:52.515
I mean, you know what I mean, A below average

713
00:25:52.515 --> 00:25:53.515
<v Speaker 3>Level of success.</v>

714
00:25:54.135 --> 00:25:55.595
<v Speaker 1>I'm, I'm I, every once in a while</v>

715
00:25:55.985 --> 00:25:57.035
<v Speaker 3>Have a good weekend. It's fine.</v>

716
00:25:57.385 --> 00:25:59.835
<v Speaker 1>Contractually obligated to say have as much success</v>

717
00:25:59.835 --> 00:26:01.355
as you want, as long as it's less than Alex,

718
00:26:01.735 --> 00:26:02.735
um,
<v Speaker 2>.</v>

719
00:26:03.495 --> 00:26:05.395
Oh, that's, that's on the contract. Sure.

720
00:26:05.455 --> 00:26:06.795
<v Speaker 1>Yes. That's, that's so you don't want him</v>

721
00:26:07.015 --> 00:26:08.995
<v Speaker 3>Not Fox though, so you don't want him to do well at all?</v>

722
00:26:09.455 --> 00:26:10.995
<v Speaker 1>No, I would like him both to do well.</v>

723
00:26:11.745 --> 00:26:14.275
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay. All right. Wow.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Okay.</v>

724
00:26:14.875 --> 00:26:16.195
<v Speaker 2>I can see that, right? Yeah, that's definitely</v>

725
00:26:16.325 --> 00:26:17.435
Rossi contracts you get

726
00:26:18.065 --> 00:26:22.715
<v Speaker 3>Yeah,</v>
<v Speaker 1>you don't on buddy, best of Luck Road, America</v>

727
00:26:22.815 --> 00:26:23.955
and for the rest of the season.

728
00:26:24.585 --> 00:26:26.155
<v Speaker 2>Alright, thank you guys. Thank you.</v>

729
00:26:27.545 --> 00:26:29.395
<v Speaker 1>This has been off track with Hinch and Rossi.</v>

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we have no idea why you would.

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and by that we mean Sam.