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This is off track.
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Hey, Alex. You remember last week when you said
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that it's okay 'cause James doesn't work for IndyCar,
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so he could say what he wanted to.
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Well, like only a third of them works for IndyCar. Now. ,
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Yeah. Or does a hundred percent of me only work
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for one third of IndyCar?
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I'm, I'm very confused by how this all works.
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Now, , I gotta ask, did you know it was coming?
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No idea. Had no idea whatsoever?
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No idea. Okay.
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Um, and again, for those who are living under a,
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under a stupid rock, we're of course talking about guys,
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hello and welcome to Off Track
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with Hinch and Rossi and Ben .
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Um, we've essentially just got a, a,
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a fourth host on the show.
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Now he's a pretty regular fixture and we're here for it.
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Aren't we, buddy? Yeah. Oh.
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Oh, he doesn't like that. He doesn't like that. What
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Did you do, James?
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It's the facial hair. They hate it All. Kids hate it.
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It's just a thing. Did you just ? I love how Alex just put a
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Massage.
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Just put him on his desk. Yeah. Yeah. .
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Oh, it's layout. Doing stuff now. Where
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That is?
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He's on the desk. . He's good.
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That was good. Um,
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but yes, no, uh, had no idea that that was happening.
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Uh, learned with the press release or the article
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or whatever like everybody else did.
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And I think had the same reaction that everybody else did,
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which was woo-hoo.
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Very cool. For, uh, for the sport.
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Very cool for the series. Um,
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Just to make sure we got the audio,
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can you do that? Woo-hoo again.
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No. Um, damn. Thought that was gonna work here.
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Here's what's, here's what's tough, guys,
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is if you're listening to this,
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we're not even gonna talk about this anymore
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because if we're, if you're listening to this,
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you've probably already listened to our interview
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with Mark Miles where we will have
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discussed all of these things.
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The thing is, at the time that we are recording this,
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we have not yet had that interview.
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So you
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by listening now already know more about what's going on
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than we do in the current time of us recording this,
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which is a weird kind of inception moment thing.
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Yeah. It's like a Dr
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who wibbly wobbly timey, wimy thing going on. You know?
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Are those real words in Dr. Who?
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It is? It is. Okay. Some people got that reference.
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Very few based on our audience that I've met.
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Very, very few. Um, but yeah, no, I mean, yeah.
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No, no, no. We're not gonna talk about that anymore
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because we're gonna talk about it on Tuesday.
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We, we have already talked about it,
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but God, this is weird. I don't like it.
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Do you need a minute? Do you need some time to,
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To process sort
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No. Do you know, do you know what I don't love though?
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Hmm.
I would love your opinion on sensor
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lights in bathrooms.
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I don't know if I have an opinion on sensor lights in
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bathrooms, but I'm assuming just from this, that you do.
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I didn't
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Un until this morning. Okay.
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Because sensor lights in bathrooms when you think about it.
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Little judgy. Little judgy. Because when you're Oh wow.
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If you take forever on the toilet,
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so the lights go off, correct?
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Well, that's, that's probably more of an indication
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that you need to like,
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figure out whatever's going on with your gut. Nope.
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I'm fine. I've been operating this way for 38 years
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and it's been doing me just fine.
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What is wrong? Is that light telling me how long
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to take my poop in the morning? .
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Okay.
I'm not here for it. It's like, i's kinda like,
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I think this is just a you thing, man. It's,
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There's no way.
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There's no way. Please write not at off track, just Tim,
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Tim specifically with all your replies as
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to if you enjoy your time in the morning,
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you know, doing your business.
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But it's, it's like a, but
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Also I don't want that.
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I don't want those responses.
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That's why I want people to do it. Can
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We, can we talk about the fact
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that you can't poop in the dark?
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It's not that you can't,
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it's just very unnerving for some reason.
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I don't know. It's very uncomfortable. I don't know why.
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Especially if you're like, well,
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if you're reading a book, you can't do it. If
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you are pooping too long.
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This is like, this is ridiculous.
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You the best book you need to
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Read to see a
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The best books to read on the toilet are Dan Brown novels,
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because he has like really short
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chapters sometimes. So you can like
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Hardy Boys.
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Are those short
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kids?
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No, I haven't read a lot of Hardy Boys lately or ever,
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but yeah, no, as
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of this morning I got a real strong opinion on sensor lights
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and bathrooms and, uh, I'm not for,
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it's like a snooze button though.
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Like, it goes off and then you like wave your arm around
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and then it comes back on again.
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But it goes off like, I guess it's been five more
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minutes. All right. One more.
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I don't even know how to continue this
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conversation.
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No, I don't know where to go from here.
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I don't think there was supposed to be anymore than that.
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I think that was it. That's all I, that's all I had.
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That's all I had. Um, Alex, how was,
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how was your weekend off?
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It's been a, a busy stretch, IndyCar, 47 races days.
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I have to poop eight days throughout the month of July.
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And finally got a weekend of no racing
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and no traveling. And how was that?
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The weekend was great. Um, I rode my bike.
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I got on my smoker.
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I got like 11 hours of sleep a night.
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Um, I saw your wife. Yeah. Um,
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You spent more time. Those were the
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highlights that I have. Yeah,
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Played golf twice. That was good.
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What else did I do? Um, caught up on stuff around the house,
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bought a new rug.
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Um, because here's the thing, I've learned that furniture
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and rugs, you just have to, you just have to understand
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that, especially with you
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and I James, we have the, we have the same problem
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because we married people who like a certain aesthetic.
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Yep. And so they just have a lifespan
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of three to five years.
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Yeah. And that's just the di in, in this period of our life,
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we're not gonna have rugs and furniture for decades.
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Yeah. It's just not possible. That's a thing.
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So, um, anyways, what I have found is,
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and I really wish I found this sooner,
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but uh, home Goods is a hell of a, is a hell of a store.
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It's essentially for me, it's like I don't,
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it's Where, where would you go?
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It's, it's, it's like its own contained little outlet. Okay.
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So it's got all the name, all the name brand stuff,
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just last year's style
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or a style that didn't sell or whatever.
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So like super high quality stuff at like a 75% discount.
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And so, you know, I always thought, oh, going
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to Nordstrom Rack, Nordstrom Rack
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or Restoration Hardware Outlet
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or whatever, like that's a, that's a good deal
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because it's on clearance.
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Yeah. But you're still paying for that name that you're at.
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Right. Whereas when you're at HomeGoods,
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not only is it on clearance, there's no markup
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for any sort of brand.
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They're just basically wholesale price. Minus. Minus.
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So like I got a $2,000 rug for 399 bucks
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and I was like, that's pretty cool.
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I don't really care. So I
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Don't even feel bad about the fact
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that I'm gonna bring Teddy to your house next week.
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Well Teddy pisses on couches, not
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So I haven't found he's gotten better.
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I haven't found he's gotten better at that.
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I haven't, I haven't found the home goods for couches
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yet, but I found Okay.
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The solution for rugs.
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Oh, they don't have couches.
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That's what I did this weekend. I mean, they do, but
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Not the couches.
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Well, yeah. 'cause we just bought a couch,
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so I'd be really upset to know
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that they had nice couches at home goods at shockingly low
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prices when we did not go there
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for our new couch.
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Mm. But yeah. Mm-hmm .
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It is, I feel like the, I feel like the dog thing really,
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really takes years off your couch's life. Oh.
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And it's not even that they make a mess out of it.
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It's not like they're, it's just wear and tear.
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They're pissing on it. It's just wear and tear. Yeah.
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It's just weight on it that shouldn't be there. Weight
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Claws maybe also.
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And then the thing is they start sleeping on top
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of like the back pillows
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and eventually just deformed them to a degree
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that they're unsalvageable
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And then they have all these little oils on them,
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so they just leave this residue.
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It's great. It's nice.
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Yeah. It's just such a gross way of describing
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that, but very accurate. .
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But dude, it's funny. So like
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Domesticated wolves for this,
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We have, we have hardwood floors
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right through most of the house.
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And Bonner lies under this particular chair.
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And then at night in our bedroom, he,
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he lies under like the dresser
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and we had to move, set pieces of furniture.
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Um, and there the, the hardwood is like
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sandpaper there just
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because he lays in the same spot for such a period of time
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and dogs are naturally oily.
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'cause that's how they keep themselves clean. Right.
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And it's like, it's almost burned a
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hole in where he lays. It's wild.
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That's actually kind of hilarious.
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Do you guys have an opinion on Tim?
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You're sometimes smart with stuff.
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I heard this term and I hear it all the time,
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but it just like, it just caught me off guard again
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and someone, when someone says on accident
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instead of by accident, but then it's on purpose,
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I would definitely say by accident.
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But you say on purpose, so, right.
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So I can't, 'cause I keep hearing it.
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Every time I hear it, it just sounds so wrong.
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It sounds like the person literally
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doesn't know how to speak English.
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But then I'm like, but wait, it is on purpose.
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So why would it be by accident?
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Or is should it be I should it be by purpose as well? ,
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Were you thinking about this in your,
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your four hour this morning?
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Mm, no. I was thinking about it over my 30 hour travel day
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yesterday.
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Yeah. Let's talk about, let's talk about, uh,
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hungry and everything.
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'cause I don't, I don't have an opinion on, on purpose
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or by accident.
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So you just got back from Hungary. Tell us about it.
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I did. I just got back from Hungary, so I, uh, I flew home
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from where Laguna on the red eye
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and then had like 27 hours at home
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and then left again for Hungary to go work for me.
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Uh, and I had never been to Hungary, the tra the country
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or hung rang the track.
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Did you have goulash?
I did not have goulash.
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I apologize. Howard.
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You know what I also like also screwed up
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by not doing something else that I meant to do, which was,
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they have these things here.
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I dunno if you've ever had them, I
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forget what they call 'em.
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I'm trying to remember the name. But it's like a,
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like imagine like a doughty kind of material,
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but it's in the shape of like a,
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it's like a cylinder but with a hole.
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And then you put ice cream in to the hole.
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So it's almost like an ice cream cone made out a donut,
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but it's like a cinnamon sugar
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or like a chocolate or whatever.
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And you pack it full of ice cream. Ho looked amazing.
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But I also didn't stop for that.
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I think I had like Italian food .
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I don't think I had some Greek food.
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I didn't get it right. Okay. So Budapest,
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Budapest is one
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of my favorite cities. Why did you like it so much?
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Dude, it's, it's, again, I I you, you travel
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so much for racing, right?
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And like, people are always like,
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oh you're so lucky you get to see all these places.
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And it's like, yeah, I get to see all these airports,
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these hotels and these racetracks and like maybe a night
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or two you'll get to go like have dinner somewhere,
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like on the town or whatever.
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And so all you really get when you're traveling
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for this is a sense of whether
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or not you'd ever want to go back to that place
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and actually see it.
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And 100% Budapest is now like, near the top of the list
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of cities that I wanna go back to
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and like actually just visit.
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Um, we had a, we had a nice hotel.
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We were right on the river outta my room.
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I could see the like Buddha castle
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and it was like, the architecture was beautiful.
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The people were all very friendly that we came across.
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Um, I just, yeah, I would just love to explore it more tons
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of history there and, and everything.
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So I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed my time there.
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That the track itself is also great.
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Um, I guess they'd spent a ton
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of money on it since last year.
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So like, brand new pit building,
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brand new grandstands, resurfaced the track.
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So like everything about it was really nice.
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And for a racetrack in the middle of nowhere
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where it's just two lane roads going to and from getting in
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and out, shockingly easy compared to every other track
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that we go to that I've been to at least with F1
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and sometimes IndyCar.
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So take notes the rest of the racing world on that.
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Um, and yeah, I mean look, I mean, I didn't
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to drive the track but Alex,
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you've, you've been around the track.
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I assume you enjoyed your laps around hungover ring.
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Yeah, I, I um, I have the same opinion as you.
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Like I think the city's incredible. The people are great.
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Um, the track is, is a lot of fun.
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It's, there's a lot coming at you kind of at all times.
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It's not the best to race per se
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'cause it's pretty, it's pretty tight.
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Um, fun fact, pretty much all
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of the grand charisma movie was filmed at
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Budapest at the hungover ring.
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So even though they pretended to be at place X, Y,
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and Z it was mostly there.
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Um, but yeah, I just think it's, it's always, it's, it's one
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of those events that often is overlooked
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by people I think just
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because it's not a, it's not a destination per se.
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Um, it's not super relevant in pop
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culture if you will.
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But it's, it's just such an amazing, um, part
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of the world that I found
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and, you know, it needed a little bit
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of an investment from the track standpoint.
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So I can only imagine what the track is like now.
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'cause when I was there 10 years ago, it was,
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it was still pretty awesome.
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So I'm glad you feel that way. I'm glad you liked it.
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And uh, you should probably talk about the race.
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'cause I wanna be honest, dude, I recorded, uh,
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practice qualifying and the race.
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'cause I had every intention of like, I have a weekend off.
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I'm gonna watch it all. I watch not a single lap. So, well
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Between your,
I have no idea about anything.
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Your smoking and your rug buying
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and you're golfing 11 hours of sleep
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and 11 hours of sleep a night.
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I don't know how you could have fitted in.
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Um, right. It was good. I
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Was, uh, it was on accident. ,
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We're all gonna be saying that now
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by by the end of the month.
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Um, it was a great weekend.
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So first and foremost just, it was great being back there,
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you know, with the F1 TV group
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and getting to, uh, getting to kind of get my F1,
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you know, legs back.
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'cause we have three races left on the IndyCar calendar
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and then I shift over full time to that world
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and do the rest of the season from back who onwards.
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But, um, the weekend was interesting.
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You know, Lando was kind of the class
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of the field the entire weekend.
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Like McLaren were head and shoulders above everybody.
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Uh, Lando had like a decent chunk on on Oscar most of the,
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uh, most of the weekend, which
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I guess he's always run really well there.
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He'd never been out qualified by a teammate there.
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All these things. And uh, and then we got to qualifying
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and dude qualifying was so bizarre
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because Q1, everything's normal standard kind of, you know,
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balance of power, whatever,
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Q2 there started being like some cloud cover
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and the temperatures dropped a little bit.
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And then by Q3 it was like very cloudy
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and the wind did 180 degree
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or 90 degree shift depending on who you ask.
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The wind shifted significantly and picked up quite a bit.
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The amount that these cars slow down and change
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because of the wind like is insane.
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You, you and I drive high powered open wheel cars.
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You have raced in Formula One.
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We understand that these cars are affected by
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weather conditions and things like wind.
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Alex, I can tell you that like being down in the pit lane,
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you felt that there was, you know, a change in the wind.
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Sure. These guys came in
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and it was like somebody had thrown gravel on the racetrack.
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Like it was six tenths slower from Q1 to Q3.
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It's, it's like a five minute gap or a 10 minute gap.
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Call it 10 minutes. The guys were like,
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the cars are undrivable.
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The balance is completely different.
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And the lap times dropped off over half a second.
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So I have a, I have a question.
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Do you think that that is, um, do you think it's a result
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of the wind or do you more think it's a result of
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the, these teams and engineers and everything
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and the simulation side is so good at predicting kind
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of the optimized setup going into the weekend
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for whatever conditions
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that they forecast are gonna have happen.
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And they are, are really ultimately
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for the most part driving a pretty neutral and balanced car.
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And then when something like this happens, it's more
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that the,
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and this is not saying that the drivers aren't good, it's
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that they're so not used to driving a car
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that's kind of doing things.
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They don't expect that.
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That's why, because it is hard to imagine
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that the wind ultimately is causing that amount
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of performance drop.
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It's that the wind is causing a balance shift
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that they weren't expecting,
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which is causing this performance drop.
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Does that make sense what I'm saying? I I,
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I, it a hundred percent makes sense what you're saying.
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I think it's more a function of it happened in 10 minutes
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and you had one lap to figure it out.
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Right. Great point. Yeah.
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It's, it's, if if they'd had an hour practice session with
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that wind, they probably could have got back
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to within two tenths maybe.
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Sure, sure. But it's just, we drove it
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and then 10 minutes later drove the same
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track with the same car. It's pretty
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Wild. It shifted that fast.
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Yeah. And like, or that,
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but like that's what I'm saying is that from on the ground,
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the shift didn't feel like a monumental shift.
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But those cars, they're so aero dependent
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and they're so sensitive
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that even like a relatively moderate shift from like
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the sense of just you standing out in in the elements had
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that big of an effect on on the cars.
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And so it was, it was interesting.
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So anyway, that meant
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that McLaren actually didn't get a poll.
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Uh, LeClaire got another poll, which was very impressive
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and he was just as shocked
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as everybody when he was interviewed afterwards
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I saw a quote, he was like,
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right now I do not understand Formula One.
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Yeah. He was like, I don't understand
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anything in Formula one today, .
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Which was pretty funny and uh, and accurate
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and like even Lando and, and Oscar, like I interviewed them
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after qualifying and they're both just,
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they were like just laughing.
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They weren't even mad that they weren't un pole.
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They're like, yeah man, we have no idea how
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that happened like that they should
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not have been, we're gonna win.
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But like, man, it was funny seeing the confidence of,
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even though that, you know, hungover ring is such a track
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position sensitive place, right?
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And they were not starting on pole.
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They were both not remotely worried about
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not beating the Ferrari .
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They were just kind of worried about beating each other.
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Doesn't that sound cool?
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I was, it must be so nice, man.
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So I mean that just speaks to
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how good their cars are, right?
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Course. Like for, that's not even confidence in them.
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That's just the car for
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Sure. Or is it
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Of both?
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No, no, no. It's, it's, it's the car.
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Like they know that, that, that was such an outlier thing.
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'cause everything changed, right? Like everything in
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that one 10 minute session was so different.
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So they're just like, yeah, it's,
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we're gonna, we're gonna beat him in the race.
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Like I'm not worried about that. But um,
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so they're just laughing and Claire's like,
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they're like, how did I get here?
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Like what is going on?
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Um, and then the race was actually,
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it's one of those classic things, right?
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We've talked about this a bunch. You could have a boring
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race with an exciting last 10 laps
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and people will remember it as an exciting race.
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And that's basically what we got
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because it was LeClaire Ptri Norris on the grid
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and Lando actually got the best start,
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but then sort of just got jammed up on the inside
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of turn one fell way back to fifth.
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Um, Le Claire kept the lead and led the whole first stint.
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So Lando had to pass his way back up to third.
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And then once the first two guys pitted,
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it was supposed to be a two stopper.
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Once the first two guys pitted, you know,
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will Joseph Lao's engineer came on
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and basically was like, Hey, uh, we're gonna try
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to do this in a one, I think it's really our only shot.
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Are you cool with that? And Lando, he's on the radio,
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he's kinda like, yeah, whatever,
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let's take a, take a stab at it.
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Like you could tell he was almost like a little defeated
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that he had lost that place at the beginning
507
00:21:11.505 --> 00:21:13.245
and he was sort of just cruising around in third.
508
00:21:13.985 --> 00:21:18.405
And dude, it's so interesting this shift in F1 to
509
00:21:19.455 --> 00:21:24.045
teams giving the drivers so much say on the strategy
510
00:21:24.835 --> 00:21:27.285
because there were a couple different scenarios
511
00:21:27.285 --> 00:21:30.895
where you've got the engineer coming onto the driver
512
00:21:31.155 --> 00:21:33.375
and being like, Hey, we're thinking this
513
00:21:33.675 --> 00:21:37.405
and we're thinking that, but what do you think?
514
00:21:37.405 --> 00:21:39.045
Like, do you think this is possible?
515
00:21:39.505 --> 00:21:41.565
And I just find like, we had this conversation, one
516
00:21:41.565 --> 00:21:45.445
of the post shows, it's like, should drivers be doing
517
00:21:45.475 --> 00:21:48.125
that much of the strategy work from inside the cockpit?
518
00:21:48.125 --> 00:21:49.205
Like I dunno how you feel about this.
519
00:21:49.485 --> 00:21:52.045
'cause we, we've seen like Russell do it a couple times
520
00:21:52.145 --> 00:21:54.525
and he gets praised for like calling an audible
521
00:21:54.525 --> 00:21:55.965
and it ends up working out well.
522
00:21:56.305 --> 00:21:59.605
But now it seems like the default mode for certain teams
523
00:21:59.705 --> 00:22:03.165
and certain drivers is let's have a nice long
524
00:22:03.875 --> 00:22:05.005
open conversation.
525
00:22:05.295 --> 00:22:06.565
Let's get a lot of feedback.
526
00:22:06.565 --> 00:22:08.845
It's like, dude, this guy's racing a Grand Prix right now.
527
00:22:09.065 --> 00:22:11.285
You have all the computers and the simulation data.
528
00:22:11.705 --> 00:22:14.165
You should probably be directing the strategy
529
00:22:14.305 --> 00:22:17.565
unless there's something so huge he's feeling in the car.
530
00:22:21.865 --> 00:22:25.285
Do you think it's because F1 has become ultimately
531
00:22:26.025 --> 00:22:30.685
so popular and the drivers have become so powerful in a way
532
00:22:30.825 --> 00:22:32.565
and iconic, especially the top guys.
533
00:22:32.565 --> 00:22:35.765
Like I, I highly doubt these conversations are necessary.
534
00:22:35.765 --> 00:22:37.565
I mean they might be, but like,
535
00:22:37.705 --> 00:22:39.605
are these conversations happening with
536
00:22:40.275 --> 00:22:42.485
Ocon at Alpine, Alpine, whatever, right?
537
00:22:42.485 --> 00:22:45.965
Like ha It's do do the team. Sorry.
538
00:22:46.065 --> 00:22:50.845
Ha do the teams slash engineers not wanna be
539
00:22:51.715 --> 00:22:53.805
lambasted by an audience
540
00:22:53.955 --> 00:22:56.805
because the driver is like, ah, blah blah, blah.
541
00:22:56.845 --> 00:22:59.565
I got boned by the strategy versus Hey,
542
00:22:59.615 --> 00:23:01.125
we're gonna have this open conversation
543
00:23:01.305 --> 00:23:03.205
and we're gonna go down as a team
544
00:23:03.265 --> 00:23:04.645
or we're gonna succeed as a team.
545
00:23:05.245 --> 00:23:08.405
'cause I think I, I mean especially on the Ferrari side
546
00:23:08.405 --> 00:23:11.125
of things, like it's become such a almost joke
547
00:23:11.195 --> 00:23:12.245
with how bad Yeah.
548
00:23:12.515 --> 00:23:15.205
They at least are represented
549
00:23:15.505 --> 00:23:17.365
to be from a strategy standpoint
550
00:23:17.595 --> 00:23:19.565
that I'm just wondering if other teams are trying
551
00:23:19.565 --> 00:23:21.525
to like avoid that just
552
00:23:21.525 --> 00:23:23.525
because of how That's a great point. How big it is.
553
00:23:24.075 --> 00:23:25.645
It's a great point. Thank you. It's
554
00:23:25.645 --> 00:23:26.645
A terrifying thought every once in a
555
00:23:26.645 --> 00:23:27.565
while.
,
556
00:23:27.915 --> 00:23:30.245
it's a terrifying thought, but it's a very valid point.
557
00:23:30.825 --> 00:23:33.485
What's funny though is the two, so like, you know,
558
00:23:33.745 --> 00:23:35.925
pry had a really weird back and forth with his crew
559
00:23:36.025 --> 00:23:39.285
and a couple others and Le Claire had this one exchange,
560
00:23:39.345 --> 00:23:41.685
so something ended up breaking on the Ferrari in the final
561
00:23:41.775 --> 00:23:43.805
stint and he just absolutely plummeted.
562
00:23:44.465 --> 00:23:47.285
But he gets on the radio and he's like kind of, he's upset
563
00:23:47.465 --> 00:23:48.485
and he's sort of venting.
564
00:23:49.065 --> 00:23:51.485
But what was so funny about it is he was try,
565
00:23:51.665 --> 00:23:53.165
he was trying to like speak in code.
566
00:23:53.235 --> 00:23:58.155
He's like, man, we talked about that thing.
567
00:23:58.655 --> 00:24:03.195
And when we, when we discussed how that was gonna go,
568
00:24:03.255 --> 00:24:05.195
if we had just, I could have done
569
00:24:06.185 --> 00:24:08.395
certain things differently and better.
570
00:24:08.425 --> 00:24:10.795
Like he was trying so hard you could hear him pausing
571
00:24:10.795 --> 00:24:12.315
to think like, don't say the word.
572
00:24:12.375 --> 00:24:14.635
You know, like I need to, I need to say this,
573
00:24:14.695 --> 00:24:16.315
but I can't say the actual word
574
00:24:16.435 --> 00:24:17.395
'cause I don't want anybody to know what we're
575
00:24:17.395 --> 00:24:17.635
talking about.
576
00:24:18.055 --> 00:24:19.075
And it's like, man, that's just
577
00:24:19.075 --> 00:24:20.715
so distracting from inside of the car.
578
00:24:21.095 --> 00:24:25.275
But then you get GP and Max and you get Will and Lando
579
00:24:25.295 --> 00:24:26.435
and they were very like,
580
00:24:27.675 --> 00:24:29.875
everyone's using like plan A plus five
581
00:24:30.175 --> 00:24:33.795
and you know, Delta Sigma Alpha Blue 22.
582
00:24:34.015 --> 00:24:37.115
And then Will's just like, okay, we're gonna one stop,
583
00:24:37.115 --> 00:24:38.835
we're gonna pit in about three laps
584
00:24:38.955 --> 00:24:40.475
'cause he's catching you at this pace
585
00:24:40.475 --> 00:24:43.275
and you're gonna have to make this tire less, this many laps
586
00:24:44.055 --> 00:24:45.235
out there for the whole world to hear.
587
00:24:45.375 --> 00:24:47.675
But like at that point, no one can affect what you're doing.
588
00:24:47.775 --> 00:24:49.875
So it's like, yeah, just have the conversation.
589
00:24:50.225 --> 00:24:51.515
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
590
00:24:51.715 --> 00:24:55.675
I I think that also I,
591
00:24:55.855 --> 00:24:57.835
on the IndyCar side of things, there used
592
00:24:57.835 --> 00:25:00.955
to be a lot more effort into like coding things
593
00:25:01.215 --> 00:25:04.235
and now it's pretty much this is what we're doing
594
00:25:04.255 --> 00:25:05.475
and this is how we're gonna do it.
595
00:25:05.475 --> 00:25:09.275
Because what ultimately are you trying to prevent?
596
00:25:09.275 --> 00:25:13.755
Like the only thing that I could see someone wanting to kind
597
00:25:13.755 --> 00:25:16.715
of keep under wraps is if like they're on poll
598
00:25:17.735 --> 00:25:19.195
and they're gonna try
599
00:25:19.195 --> 00:25:22.475
and, you know, hit a fuel number from the beginning right?
600
00:25:22.535 --> 00:25:25.075
And do a stretch of two stop instead of a three.
601
00:25:25.375 --> 00:25:26.955
And they don't want to allude to the fact
602
00:25:26.955 --> 00:25:28.755
that they're hitting a massive number while
603
00:25:28.755 --> 00:25:30.035
leading and controlling the pace.
604
00:25:30.615 --> 00:25:33.635
But other than that, like once the, the race is established
605
00:25:33.735 --> 00:25:36.875
and, and people are gonna, people are gonna do
606
00:25:36.875 --> 00:25:38.275
what they're gonna do and what they feel is
607
00:25:38.275 --> 00:25:39.355
best for their strengths.
608
00:25:39.655 --> 00:25:40.835
So if like car
609
00:25:40.835 --> 00:25:45.155
or whatever is hitting a 75, like there used
610
00:25:45.155 --> 00:25:47.115
to be all these different types of codes and everything,
611
00:25:47.115 --> 00:25:50.235
and now everyone just does essentially the same. We
612
00:25:50.235 --> 00:25:52.395
Need, we need 3.4 cool ,
Right?
613
00:25:52.525 --> 00:25:54.715
There was a, I remember Hunter Ray,
614
00:25:55.455 --> 00:25:58.035
he had a lookup table on his dash,
615
00:25:58.145 --> 00:26:00.275
like there was a certain page he could go to
616
00:26:00.845 --> 00:26:03.995
where like whatever code he was given, he could go
617
00:26:03.995 --> 00:26:06.395
to the table and it was the, the, the number
618
00:26:06.395 --> 00:26:08.035
that would be be displayed on the dash.
619
00:26:08.035 --> 00:26:10.395
And it's just like, that's that's ridiculous. Too
620
00:26:10.395 --> 00:26:11.395
Much.
621
00:26:11.395 --> 00:26:12.115
Too much. Yeah. Not good. Not good.
622
00:26:12.375 --> 00:26:15.075
So anyway, it ended up coming down to like, so it was kind
623
00:26:15.075 --> 00:26:16.555
of a stagnant sort of boring race.
624
00:26:16.555 --> 00:26:18.075
It wasn't like a ton of action on Track.
625
00:26:18.255 --> 00:26:19.955
Max was making crazy passes happen
626
00:26:20.505 --> 00:26:21.955
from everywhere in the field.
627
00:26:22.155 --> 00:26:24.835
'cause he's Max and then, uh, it came down
628
00:26:24.835 --> 00:26:25.995
to Oscars on the two stop.
629
00:26:26.045 --> 00:26:28.675
Lando was on the one and he caught him up 12 seconds
630
00:26:28.975 --> 00:26:30.955
and the last stint to be right on his gearbox,
631
00:26:30.955 --> 00:26:32.395
like the last five laps.
632
00:26:32.695 --> 00:26:34.035
And Lando held him off.
633
00:26:34.375 --> 00:26:35.955
So, you know,
634
00:26:36.655 --> 00:26:38.955
and it's, it's, I'm kind of glad it went down like that
635
00:26:38.955 --> 00:26:41.915
because I always find it interesting, you know, we,
636
00:26:41.915 --> 00:26:43.885
we chat about, people are like, oh, Orlando's not
637
00:26:43.885 --> 00:26:46.445
as mentally strong as Oscar and blah blah blah, blah blah.
638
00:26:46.825 --> 00:26:48.165
But, and I think we've mentioned it on here
639
00:26:48.165 --> 00:26:49.685
before, I really think that
640
00:26:50.445 --> 00:26:52.365
whenever Lando has an issue like that, it's,
641
00:26:52.395 --> 00:26:54.805
it's when it's internal, it's like his own pressure.
642
00:26:54.835 --> 00:26:56.925
It's qualifying, it's single lap, it's stuff like that.
643
00:26:57.785 --> 00:26:59.245
But there have been so many examples
644
00:26:59.245 --> 00:27:02.565
of Lando having a car on his gearbox clearly faster
645
00:27:03.185 --> 00:27:06.325
and him just driving flawlessly in those
646
00:27:06.325 --> 00:27:08.325
situations and staying in front.
647
00:27:08.945 --> 00:27:11.885
And that's like, that's not easy to do, right?
648
00:27:11.945 --> 00:27:14.365
You've got the pressure of a guy that's caught you
649
00:27:14.365 --> 00:27:16.285
by 12 seconds, clearly faster.
650
00:27:17.355 --> 00:27:19.885
He's a teammate in the same car,
651
00:27:20.275 --> 00:27:22.685
he's the guy you're battling for the championship with.
652
00:27:23.155 --> 00:27:25.685
Like, this win is really important to close that gap.
653
00:27:26.955 --> 00:27:29.525
Basically the highest pressure situation you could put a guy
654
00:27:29.525 --> 00:27:31.485
in short of it like being in the wet
655
00:27:32.345 --> 00:27:34.005
and he was absolutely flawless.
656
00:27:34.005 --> 00:27:36.205
Great execution. I know it's a tough track to pass on,
657
00:27:36.205 --> 00:27:37.565
but like they have DRS
658
00:27:37.585 --> 00:27:40.245
and you know, guys were making passes on track, whatever.
659
00:27:40.865 --> 00:27:43.205
So I thought it was a really impressive win in shows
660
00:27:43.235 --> 00:27:46.965
that like from a, from a mentality st standpoint, like,
661
00:27:47.025 --> 00:27:48.685
you know how tough it is being in those situations
662
00:27:48.705 --> 00:27:51.165
and like driving absolutely flawlessly is a big deal.
663
00:27:51.485 --> 00:27:55.085
I agree that I, here I'm gonna make a bold prediction.
664
00:27:55.505 --> 00:27:56.565
The winner of the constructor
665
00:27:56.705 --> 00:27:59.925
or the driver's championship is, is gonna be Oscar Orlando.
666
00:28:00.115 --> 00:28:02.285
That is very bold. It's very bold. Mm-hmm.
667
00:28:02.285 --> 00:28:03.565
That's like predicting that Polo's gonna
668
00:28:03.565 --> 00:28:04.605
win the IndyCar championship. ,
669
00:28:05.455 --> 00:28:08.565
which on note, oh, not yet. It's not yet.
670
00:28:09.025 --> 00:28:11.085
But let's, we can pivot. Might as well be.
671
00:28:11.085 --> 00:28:14.965
So, uh, we, uh, might as well be, yeah, I had, uh,
672
00:28:15.425 --> 00:28:17.845
an interesting travel day back from there.
673
00:28:18.305 --> 00:28:21.125
So my airport pickup was two 30 in the
674
00:28:21.125 --> 00:28:23.485
morning, uh, on Monday.
675
00:28:24.025 --> 00:28:26.365
And so I decided to just not go to bed.
676
00:28:26.705 --> 00:28:29.645
So we went to this place in Budapest was like the ruins bars
677
00:28:29.745 --> 00:28:31.205
or the ruin bars or whatever.
678
00:28:31.305 --> 00:28:33.885
Did you ever go there? Nope. No. It was very cool.
679
00:28:33.915 --> 00:28:36.805
It's like, I guess some old, you know, world War II place
680
00:28:37.345 --> 00:28:40.245
and they just made these grotty bars inside of it.
681
00:28:40.245 --> 00:28:42.365
Like, it's like all this like rundown buildings from,
682
00:28:42.665 --> 00:28:44.045
you know, remnants of the war or whatever.
683
00:28:44.045 --> 00:28:45.605
And then made 'em into these really
684
00:28:45.605 --> 00:28:46.725
cool bars, which is a lot of fun.
685
00:28:46.865 --> 00:28:49.365
Anyway, went out with a bunch of the F1 crew, uh,
686
00:28:50.705 --> 00:28:53.685
two 30 pickup to then get on my flight from Budapest
687
00:28:53.685 --> 00:28:57.085
to Frankfurt, and then my flight from Frankfurt to Chicago,
688
00:28:57.305 --> 00:28:59.445
and then my flight from Chicago to Los Angeles
689
00:29:00.495 --> 00:29:03.645
where I currently am for some Fox stuff.
690
00:29:04.705 --> 00:29:06.805
And then, uh, straight to Portland.
691
00:29:07.185 --> 00:29:08.685
But actually, hold on, this is a funny story.
692
00:29:08.985 --> 00:29:13.965
So we're here in LA for, it's their like football seminar,
693
00:29:14.185 --> 00:29:15.885
the fox, like football.
694
00:29:16.245 --> 00:29:18.125
I don't even know what that means, but it's what it is.
695
00:29:19.065 --> 00:29:20.885
And towns and I are invited to come out here.
696
00:29:21.785 --> 00:29:23.645
And so we're at this resort
697
00:29:23.705 --> 00:29:24.885
and they've got all these people here.
698
00:29:24.885 --> 00:29:26.085
We're doing these, these, you know,
699
00:29:26.085 --> 00:29:27.845
sessions later today, whatever.
700
00:29:28.825 --> 00:29:30.365
And so I get up in the morning
701
00:29:30.365 --> 00:29:31.885
and I was like, all right, I'll go to the gym.
702
00:29:34.015 --> 00:29:36.505
Well when like bunch
703
00:29:36.505 --> 00:29:37.905
Of NL
People NFL was here.
704
00:29:38.495 --> 00:29:41.605
Yeah, . So you like walk into the gym
705
00:29:41.745 --> 00:29:42.765
and I'm like, I open the door
706
00:29:42.765 --> 00:29:43.885
and I was like, like I'm walking
707
00:29:43.885 --> 00:29:45.045
through, I know someone behind me.
708
00:29:45.045 --> 00:29:48.085
So I hold the door open for Michael Strahan who comes in
709
00:29:48.185 --> 00:29:49.245
and then I look inside
710
00:29:49.245 --> 00:29:51.525
and there's just like all these football players Gronk over
711
00:29:51.525 --> 00:29:53.565
here just on the cable machine or whatever.
712
00:29:53.565 --> 00:29:56.285
And I'm like, Hey man, you guys using the fifteens,
713
00:29:56.305 --> 00:29:57.805
can I just sneak in here and grab the ?
714
00:30:00.395 --> 00:30:03.925
It's like nothing more emasculating than sitting in a gym.
715
00:30:04.275 --> 00:30:06.685
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm super an athlete as well, you know?
716
00:30:06.985 --> 00:30:10.485
Um, I really like, you know, just yeah, no, no,
717
00:30:10.485 --> 00:30:11.525
Totally beasty Canadian.
718
00:30:11.755 --> 00:30:12.885
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
719
00:30:14.145 --> 00:30:16.085
So funny man. So funny.
720
00:30:16.465 --> 00:30:18.525
Yo, bro, can you spot me on these uh, 20 fives?
721
00:30:18.525 --> 00:30:19.525
I'm really pushing it today. .
722
00:30:22.725 --> 00:30:25.685
I bet. So did you just exclusively stay on the treadmill?
723
00:30:26.305 --> 00:30:28.405
No, dude. There was actually more guys on the treadmill,
724
00:30:28.465 --> 00:30:30.845
so I was like, I came to lift, I was gonna do my like,
725
00:30:30.985 --> 00:30:32.245
my like dumbbell lift that I,
726
00:30:32.245 --> 00:30:33.845
that I do sometimes on the road.
727
00:30:33.885 --> 00:30:35.765
I was like, yeah, screw it. I'm just gonna go for it.
728
00:30:36.665 --> 00:30:39.405
And uh, yeah, it was funny. It was, it was interesting.
729
00:30:39.705 --> 00:30:40.965
It was interesting. Mm-hmm .
730
00:30:41.105 --> 00:30:42.845
But it was funny, you could definitely tell the guys
731
00:30:42.845 --> 00:30:45.255
that are like retired versus
732
00:30:45.275 --> 00:30:46.415
the guys that are still playing.
733
00:30:47.405 --> 00:30:49.415
Like there's some dudes that were like doing way more
734
00:30:49.415 --> 00:30:50.695
intense workouts and like all
735
00:30:50.695 --> 00:30:52.935
of us TV folk were on a little bit more of a casual program.
736
00:30:54.645 --> 00:30:56.135
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
737
00:30:56.875 --> 00:30:58.735
That's pretty, I mean, that's actually kind of cool.
738
00:30:59.135 --> 00:31:00.975
I think I would've, uh, just turned around
739
00:31:00.975 --> 00:31:02.495
and walked out. So Good for
740
00:31:02.495 --> 00:31:03.495
you.
.
741
00:31:03.495 --> 00:31:04.775
I nearly did. I nearly did.
742
00:31:04.815 --> 00:31:06.735
I nearly, I was nearly gonna like fake a phone call
743
00:31:06.735 --> 00:31:08.095
and be like, oh yeah, no, I'll be right there.
744
00:31:08.245 --> 00:31:09.735
Like, oh, it's emergency. Yeah.
745
00:31:10.565 --> 00:31:12.495
This, this isn't for me. Oh, there's a
746
00:31:12.635 --> 00:31:14.815
Gym with heavier weights. Heavier. I'm on my
747
00:31:14.815 --> 00:31:15.815
way
.
748
00:31:17.995 --> 00:31:21.015
Oh, the adult gym is, oh, it's down there. Okay, cool.
749
00:31:21.075 --> 00:31:23.095
You guys have fun kids. Yeah.
750
00:31:23.915 --> 00:31:27.295
Um, so Portland is coming up this weekend.
751
00:31:28.005 --> 00:31:30.655
Alex, how do we feel? Is it, yeah,
752
00:31:30.875 --> 00:31:31.875
Is it fine James?
753
00:31:32.325 --> 00:31:34.015
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Feel great.
754
00:31:34.245 --> 00:31:36.375
It's gonna, I think, I think this will be the hottest
755
00:31:36.655 --> 00:31:38.295
Portland Grand pri on record, which
756
00:31:38.295 --> 00:31:39.295
Is Oh really?
757
00:31:39.295 --> 00:31:41.415
Which is par for the course of Indi of IndyCar. Yeah.
758
00:31:41.525 --> 00:31:45.095
It's like 94 degrees on Sunday, which is 94. Awesome.
759
00:31:46.565 --> 00:31:51.175
Nine four. But you didn't pack appropriately for that
760
00:31:52.005 --> 00:31:53.695
Dude, I did this entire trip.
761
00:31:53.875 --> 00:31:57.145
So Budapest to LA to Portland
762
00:31:57.765 --> 00:32:01.705
on a carry-on 13 days on the road, carryon, boom.
763
00:32:01.965 --> 00:32:04.265
So no, Alex, to your point, I did not pack
764
00:32:04.265 --> 00:32:06.225
So that yeah, appropriately, that little shack it
765
00:32:06.455 --> 00:32:09.265
that you wore is not gonna play very well in Portland.
766
00:32:09.975 --> 00:32:13.145
Well it was chilly on Sunday in uh, in
767
00:32:13.375 --> 00:32:14.375
Okay.
768
00:32:14.375 --> 00:32:16.065
That was the only long sleeve thing that I brought though,
769
00:32:16.065 --> 00:32:17.105
so I'm glad that I had that.
770
00:32:17.845 --> 00:32:20.025
Um, no dude, that's the best part about Fox
771
00:32:20.085 --> 00:32:21.185
is they dress me baby.
772
00:32:21.505 --> 00:32:23.825
I just show up in my little quarter zip.
773
00:32:24.005 --> 00:32:26.305
Do they actually
Heck yes bro.
774
00:32:26.455 --> 00:32:28.665
Have you not noticed that I'm well dressed on
775
00:32:28.665 --> 00:32:30.105
Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays?
776
00:32:30.525 --> 00:32:32.505
No.
Why don't you start paying more attention?
777
00:32:33.185 --> 00:32:36.345
I just figured you were taking like you like Buxton had
778
00:32:36.345 --> 00:32:37.945
a good influence on you. He
779
00:32:37.945 --> 00:32:42.045
Had a good influence on Fox to dress us. Yeah.
780
00:32:42.515 --> 00:32:47.485
Nice. Okay.
It's been great. Um, 94 degrees on Sunday.
781
00:32:47.675 --> 00:32:50.925
Yeah. So it'll turn into a tire day grace.
782
00:32:50.925 --> 00:32:52.325
So it'll be really tough for Alex
783
00:32:52.465 --> 00:32:53.725
to clinch the championship.
784
00:32:55.105 --> 00:32:56.765
Hey, at least you be I Portland bad at making tires
785
00:32:56.795 --> 00:32:57.965
last and go fast.
786
00:32:59.315 --> 00:33:02.925
Yeah,
He'll probably still do it on a two stop.
787
00:33:03.405 --> 00:33:04.765
Anything, anything other than the heat
788
00:33:04.785 --> 00:33:07.125
and tire dig for the layman to look out
789
00:33:07.125 --> 00:33:08.365
for in Portland this weekend.
790
00:33:08.595 --> 00:33:09.805
Turn one, turn one.
791
00:33:09.805 --> 00:33:11.005
Do you think we'll actually get through
792
00:33:11.785 --> 00:33:13.605
lap one without a yellow? No,
793
00:33:13.645 --> 00:33:18.445
I feel like we did last year, two years ago, years
794
00:33:18.445 --> 00:33:19.445
Ago I think.
795
00:33:19.445 --> 00:33:22.245
Didn't Aaron Lichens just post something about like five
796
00:33:22.305 --> 00:33:25.725
of the last six IndyCar races have had a
797
00:33:25.985 --> 00:33:27.245
lap one yellow. Yep.
798
00:33:27.425 --> 00:33:29.325
Yes. That makes sense.
It has gone gone a little
799
00:33:29.325 --> 00:33:31.285
different than the start of the season. There was a
800
00:33:31.285 --> 00:33:32.325
Lap one yellow last year.
801
00:33:32.345 --> 00:33:33.485
It wasn't turn one though.
802
00:33:33.505 --> 00:33:37.765
It was Dixon absolutely blown up at a turn
803
00:33:38.455 --> 00:33:39.685
eight or whatever, remember?
804
00:33:39.825 --> 00:33:42.645
Oh yeah. Someone jumped over that group and spear into him,
805
00:33:43.095 --> 00:33:44.925
Fired him into the wall on the outside of the strait.
806
00:33:45.195 --> 00:33:47.605
Yeah. Yeah, no I um, it's funny
807
00:33:47.605 --> 00:33:49.965
because like, so I raced there three times,
808
00:33:50.175 --> 00:33:51.885
never made it past turn four
809
00:33:52.745 --> 00:33:56.485
and then, um, went to the TV side
810
00:33:56.585 --> 00:33:59.005
and then I guess the next year there would've been a caution
811
00:33:59.385 --> 00:34:01.045
and I think the next year they're like, Hey,
812
00:34:01.535 --> 00:34:05.245
let's put you down at the apex of turn one,
813
00:34:05.245 --> 00:34:07.005
like right up against the guardrail
814
00:34:07.225 --> 00:34:09.205
to like watch all the chaos unfold
815
00:34:09.225 --> 00:34:10.485
and you can report from down there.
816
00:34:10.885 --> 00:34:12.805
NBC did this with PT a couple years
817
00:34:12.805 --> 00:34:14.685
before and I was like, yeah, cool.
818
00:34:14.685 --> 00:34:17.965
So I'm down there and of course first time in half a decade
819
00:34:18.015 --> 00:34:19.645
where everyone just gets through clearly
820
00:34:19.745 --> 00:34:21.365
and I'm just like down there like, oh,
821
00:34:21.835 --> 00:34:23.005
everybody did a great job.
822
00:34:23.095 --> 00:34:26.645
Where were all you guys for 20 18, 19 and 20?
823
00:34:27.905 --> 00:34:31.885
Ah, or whatever the years were 20 18, 20 19 and 21.
824
00:34:32.025 --> 00:34:33.165
Do you like that track, Alex?
825
00:34:33.485 --> 00:34:35.565
I don't mind it. I don't mind it.
826
00:34:35.755 --> 00:34:39.565
It's um, I wouldn't say it's the worst layout that we go
827
00:34:39.565 --> 00:34:40.685
to. Um,
828
00:34:40.875 --> 00:34:41.965
What would you say is
The worst track?
829
00:34:41.965 --> 00:34:45.565
It's kind of to, it it, it, it can be fun. Oh.
830
00:34:46.925 --> 00:34:50.245
I mean it's a real close tossup between Detroit and Toronto
831
00:34:51.275 --> 00:34:52.005
Fair. Uh,
832
00:34:52.945 --> 00:34:55.925
One of those. One of those for sure.
833
00:34:56.145 --> 00:34:58.285
Uh, okay. So you enjoy it to a certain extent.
834
00:34:58.595 --> 00:35:02.695
Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyways, uh,
835
00:35:02.765 --> 00:35:05.175
what do I think it's the last road course race of the year?
836
00:35:07.075 --> 00:35:11.455
Um, I think that as we saw
837
00:35:12.035 --> 00:35:16.215
in Laguna, I think people are the, the level
838
00:35:16.315 --> 00:35:19.975
of cares that are given have decreased substantially.
839
00:35:20.745 --> 00:35:23.015
It'll be, I think guys will be on a little bit better
840
00:35:23.295 --> 00:35:25.255
behavior 'cause everyone's kind of had a week off to
841
00:35:25.475 --> 00:35:27.855
to chill out and recover and, and reset.
842
00:35:28.595 --> 00:35:31.055
Um, but certainly as we get to this point in the season,
843
00:35:31.245 --> 00:35:34.575
guys are, guys are desperate for one reason or another.
844
00:35:34.995 --> 00:35:36.015
Um, whether that's
845
00:35:36.075 --> 00:35:37.885
or want a pop result, a certain champ,
846
00:35:38.055 --> 00:35:41.725
champ championship position or just to get a good result
847
00:35:41.725 --> 00:35:42.885
before the year ends or
848
00:35:42.945 --> 00:35:45.245
to prove their value or what have you.
849
00:35:45.425 --> 00:35:48.925
So, um, I think it'll be a, an entertaining race.
850
00:35:49.305 --> 00:35:52.085
Um, I certainly think Alex is obviously gonna win the
851
00:35:52.085 --> 00:35:55.685
championship and that's about it. Do you wanna
852
00:35:55.685 --> 00:35:59.925
Know what's crazy if he locks it up in Portland,
853
00:36:00.215 --> 00:36:02.285
which is highly probable.
854
00:36:02.775 --> 00:36:05.205
There are a few scenarios in which he does not,
855
00:36:05.345 --> 00:36:09.225
but it is unlikely he will wrap it up
856
00:36:09.225 --> 00:36:11.425
with two races still to run in the championship.
857
00:36:13.195 --> 00:36:16.775
I'm double checking with our stats gurus on this,
858
00:36:17.235 --> 00:36:19.405
but I have reason to believe
859
00:36:19.405 --> 00:36:21.005
that has quite literally never happened
860
00:36:21.005 --> 00:36:25.405
before in IndyCar history with two full rounds
861
00:36:25.405 --> 00:36:27.645
to go under, like under the current point system. Sorry.
862
00:36:27.725 --> 00:36:30.775
I mean that doesn't that doesn't surprise me.
863
00:36:30.775 --> 00:36:32.615
Think about he's won eight races, dude.
864
00:36:33.235 --> 00:36:34.735
No, I know he's won half the races.
865
00:36:34.735 --> 00:36:36.015
We've run more than half the races we've
866
00:36:36.015 --> 00:36:37.015
Run so far, right?
867
00:36:37.845 --> 00:36:39.015
Like no one's done that.
868
00:36:39.355 --> 00:36:41.535
So of course this hasn't been done before.
869
00:36:42.685 --> 00:36:44.255
Shouldn't be a surprise. It's a crazy thing.
870
00:36:44.515 --> 00:36:45.575
No, it's not a surprise, but
871
00:36:45.575 --> 00:36:46.575
Like this.
872
00:36:46.575 --> 00:36:47.335
And quite honestly, I'm quite honestly,
873
00:36:47.335 --> 00:36:48.735
I'm surprised it's not already wrapped up.
874
00:36:49.635 --> 00:36:51.455
So true. So I mean,
875
00:36:51.455 --> 00:36:53.775
without Detroit it might've been right?
876
00:36:54.115 --> 00:36:55.375
So 'cause when you think about it,
877
00:36:55.515 --> 00:36:57.455
so the last time it was won
878
00:36:57.515 --> 00:37:00.375
before the final race was him in 23.
879
00:37:01.795 --> 00:37:04.935
The last time before that was welded in oh five
880
00:37:06.555 --> 00:37:08.975
and then I'm, I think it was like 2000
881
00:37:08.975 --> 00:37:11.375
or something when the current point system started.
882
00:37:11.875 --> 00:37:15.015
So in 25 years, only twice as it ever been wrapped up
883
00:37:15.085 --> 00:37:18.335
with still a full race to run and then,
884
00:37:18.635 --> 00:37:20.135
and he's gonna be the first guy to do it
885
00:37:20.135 --> 00:37:21.575
with two full weekends to go.
886
00:37:22.445 --> 00:37:24.335
Like imagine he was just like, I'm good
887
00:37:24.335 --> 00:37:25.655
and just doesn't run the last two
888
00:37:25.705 --> 00:37:26.815
takes a week off, be pretty funny.
889
00:37:26.905 --> 00:37:28.295
Hangs out with, hangs out with his kid
890
00:37:28.415 --> 00:37:29.735
and his wife goes on vacation.
891
00:37:30.205 --> 00:37:31.255
They just put something here.
892
00:37:31.255 --> 00:37:33.895
Here's thing, here's the thing.
893
00:37:33.955 --> 00:37:35.215
If it was the F1 schedule
894
00:37:35.435 --> 00:37:38.055
or like the NASCAR schedule, he probably would, but yeah,
895
00:37:38.055 --> 00:37:40.375
because he knows he's not gonna race for eight months,
896
00:37:40.525 --> 00:37:41.895
he's probably looking forward to it. .
897
00:37:42.445 --> 00:37:43.615
Good point. That's a great point.
898
00:37:43.955 --> 00:37:45.255
That's a very good point. What's,
899
00:37:45.255 --> 00:37:47.695
What's gonna be, what's gonna be really frustrating is
900
00:37:47.695 --> 00:37:50.695
that even though he has it locked up, if he continues to win
901
00:37:51.405 --> 00:37:53.095
when he has literally no reason to ,
902
00:37:54.195 --> 00:37:55.415
So that's the other thing, right, is he has,
903
00:37:55.415 --> 00:37:57.455
He just gets, gets to the fi the, the finish line
904
00:37:57.455 --> 00:37:59.495
and waits just like, God, I'll just get last,
905
00:37:59.645 --> 00:38:00.815
I'll let everybody else have one. ,
906
00:38:01.895 --> 00:38:03.615
I sometimes do that playing Mario Kart.
907
00:38:03.645 --> 00:38:05.015
I'll like let Hazel catch up.
908
00:38:05.295 --> 00:38:08.215
I was gonna say he, he will be doing the exact opposite
909
00:38:08.215 --> 00:38:09.015
because like the
910
00:38:09.015 --> 00:38:10.535
championship's already a foregone conclusion.
911
00:38:10.595 --> 00:38:13.095
So now it's just about what are the records, can you win?
912
00:38:13.635 --> 00:38:16.295
And right now the record for wins in a season is 10.
913
00:38:16.875 --> 00:38:19.815
So with three races to go, he could be the first in history
914
00:38:19.835 --> 00:38:22.255
to win 11, which would be pretty nice.
915
00:38:22.255 --> 00:38:25.095
That's sorry to
Happen. He has won, he won in Portland.
916
00:38:25.395 --> 00:38:28.135
He, he's won 50% of the races he's ever run in Portland.
917
00:38:28.845 --> 00:38:31.335
He's got first, first, second and 12th.
918
00:38:31.595 --> 00:38:33.255
That's his record in Portland so far.
919
00:38:33.715 --> 00:38:35.805
He won the last short oval that we were at
920
00:38:35.825 --> 00:38:38.685
and we've got two short ovals coming up soon.
921
00:38:40.345 --> 00:38:42.645
Is Nashville a short
Oval? Oh no, sorry. No, sorry.
922
00:38:42.645 --> 00:38:45.085
Nashville is a speedway. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, I
923
00:38:45.085 --> 00:38:46.925
Mean he won the last Speedway we were at,
924
00:38:47.185 --> 00:38:48.445
He won the last Speedway we were at,
925
00:38:48.445 --> 00:38:49.605
he won the last short oval we were at,
926
00:38:49.665 --> 00:38:51.005
he won the last road course we were at,
927
00:38:51.105 --> 00:38:53.325
he won this road course last time we were here.
928
00:38:54.505 --> 00:38:58.445
So what I'm saying is, and like, so wait, hang on.
929
00:38:58.445 --> 00:39:01.965
No, but like, but like, but like Honda Honda's really
930
00:39:01.965 --> 00:39:02.965
struggling
.
931
00:39:05.115 --> 00:39:07.005
Hopefully, hopefully they can turn a corner
932
00:39:07.105 --> 00:39:08.285
and, and you know, get something done.
933
00:39:08.625 --> 00:39:10.245
But let's hold on, let me, let me just,
934
00:39:10.305 --> 00:39:12.005
let me work this outta my head for a second.
935
00:39:12.945 --> 00:39:16.605
He won at Barber, right?
936
00:39:17.385 --> 00:39:21.325
Yes,
He won at Indy GP he won at Road America?
937
00:39:21.905 --> 00:39:25.325
Yes, he won at Laguna Thermal thermal lag.
938
00:39:25.345 --> 00:39:27.245
So he is won every road course so far this year
939
00:39:27.245 --> 00:39:30.045
because Kyle won at two street circuits in a short oval
940
00:39:30.045 --> 00:39:31.765
paddle, won at a short oval in street circuit.
941
00:39:32.465 --> 00:39:34.205
So he is won every road course so far.
942
00:39:34.265 --> 00:39:36.125
He won this road course last year. He won
943
00:39:36.125 --> 00:39:36.925
the
? Yeah.
944
00:39:37.705 --> 00:39:38.705
Oh boy.
What are you saying?
945
00:39:39.245 --> 00:39:41.245
I don't know that he is good. It's really good. It
946
00:39:41.245 --> 00:39:42.925
Would seem so, would seem so.
947
00:39:42.925 --> 00:39:44.565
Seems like. So he went the last road course.
948
00:39:44.625 --> 00:39:46.485
He won the last short oval It
949
00:39:46.705 --> 00:39:48.325
The last We get it, we get it, we get it James.
950
00:39:48.585 --> 00:39:52.405
We get it, we get it, we get it. what's your point?
951
00:39:53.085 --> 00:39:55.845
I don't have one. I'm, I'm done. That's it. Okay.
952
00:39:56.235 --> 00:40:00.805
Time to go. Alright, well, uh, I look forward to Portland.
953
00:40:01.605 --> 00:40:03.325
I, well, you know what I mean by that?
954
00:40:03.825 --> 00:40:06.445
Uh, sorry, that wasn't,
955
00:40:06.545 --> 00:40:07.545
Not as much as out.
956
00:40:07.685 --> 00:40:09.565
Listens at Hates. Yeah. Well, yeah, fair.
957
00:40:09.705 --> 00:40:11.365
And yeah, best of luck out there pal.
958
00:40:11.525 --> 00:40:12.765
I will see you out there.
959
00:40:12.915 --> 00:40:17.005
Safe travels and yeah, go.
960
00:40:17.505 --> 00:40:18.505
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961
00:40:19.915 --> 00:40:21.765
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00:40:21.905 --> 00:40:25.085
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