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This is, is off track.
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Happy week after Easter.
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I am house saltine crackers. 'cause I haven't eaten today.
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Dude. That's a good move. I'm kind of jealous.
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I don't know if I might even have some
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saltines. Dude. Are are you
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Pulling like, except an underrated snack.
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I don't know if they're underrated or not.
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I feel like they're rated pretty highly.
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Are you what's in 'em? Are you
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Saliva?
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Sorry. You put like two in at once.
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Yeah.
It looks like you would sandwich them like there
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was peanut butter or something
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and you just literally can't have one at a time.
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You have to have two at a time.
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Well that's why I get more in, I feel like,
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I remember
When I was in high school,
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there was like the saltine challenge.
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It was like, yeah, like you can't eat four in a minute.
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I think it was like something
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Like that. I can for sure. I
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Think it was fewer or it was like six
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and 30 seconds or something. Oh, whatever. Can
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I do remember that? I don't know man. It's tough. I
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Can right now. you want me to,
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Well, hold on.
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What is it Tim? What's the challenge? Look it up. . Okay.
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I like how at no points cannot
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It, it, the saltine challenge is to try
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to eat six saltines in 60 seconds
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without any liquid
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With no water. So
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No.
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Okay. Start a timer. .
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Alright, there we go.
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But you have to like, you gotta have him
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swallowed mouth open.
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Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Hang on.
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So
Green.
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This is two in 60 seconds no water in
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3, 2, 1, go.
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So the first two guys have gone in. He's now chewing.
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Uh, he's still chewing. Don't talk. Alex's folks
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Don't commentate.
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I'm gonna commentate one.
He does. It's
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Literally his job.
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It's what I do. You should focus on your job right now,
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which is housing saltine crackers.
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All right. Number three's going in.
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He's got the first two pretty much down.
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Oh, he, he went for one this time.
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He didn't do the double. I think
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It's losing pace.
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I think it's around four when your mouth starts
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to dry out and it starts to feel
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Like it just dries up so much.
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I remember kids doing this in high school
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Almost my time.
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You got 31 seconds on the board.
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Fourth one is in, so he is passed halfway.
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Passed halfway on time and crackers.
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He's got the fifth one in his hand.
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He's his head's Bob back
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and forth as he's trying to keep the chewing pace up.
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Alright. Fifth one is in 47 seconds down
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and now he's put, you know, he is chewing chewing.
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It's so pasty in your mouth right now. It's so pasty.
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Last one is in 3, 2, 1, open. No.
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Ah, no. That does not count. That does not count. I
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Think I give him, I think that's close enough.
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That's in value effort. This is close enough.
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I've ever seen anyone else to
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It. I've never seen it.
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It closes down more than you think.
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Yeah.
. No, Alex, that's why it's like on the internet.
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Huh? Like, it's weird
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because I don't know that I drink much while I eat them,
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but I don't eat them that fast. .
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Like, I obviously consume food at quite a rate of speed.
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But Yeah.
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The, the
Best. I think there's some
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performance anxiety as well.
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It's true. And you'd already,
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you had already eaten like seven of 'em.
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Well, no, I had already eaten.
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Like I, I opened this pack and we started recording
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and it's halfway gone.
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So yeah. Okay. So yeah, you already had 10 in you,
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so I'm not surprised that it was hard to do on the tail end.
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Um, whatever. Whatever you you've done is a
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<crosstalk>.
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It's the first time I've lost is something.
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Uh, that's true.
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It's funny 'cause we, we had dinner the other night
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and you, you you like started eating
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and had to stop for a second and uh,
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and, and you were like, no worry.
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It's not like I'm gonna, what did you say?
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You're like, it's not like I'm gonna
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fall behind or something.
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And like you took like a five minute break for meeting
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and then you were still done your meal
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a solid 13 minutes before.
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At least 10 minutes before you bro.
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Yeah. At least then you do
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Eat at a phenomenal rate.
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But here's the thing, you know, you and I and your wife
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and my wife had dinner
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and we had a great time and it was awesome.
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And then you, Tim, your wife, no,
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sorry, me, your wife Tim and my wife went out to dinner
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and we all had a great time.
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But Tim bitched
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and moaned about every single missed single thing.
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What happened, Tim, that he ordered,
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he complained about every drink, every app.
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Okay. Every side. You tried every one of them.
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Every, and they were all, I didn't complain about the all
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The sides.
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I complained about the steak and the drinks.
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Where did we, where did we
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where did you go? Where did this
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Happen?
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Oh, I don't want to name anything. We went
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to Del Frisco's in Indianapolis.
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Oh yeah. I don't want to name it either,
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but it was Del Frisco's . It starts with
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D Andro and ends with El Frisco's.
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And here's the thing, here's the thing.
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If Colton doesn't listen to this show,
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but um, I was introduced to Del Frisco's once, uh,
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by a young Marco Andretti.
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Mm-hmm . That's right. And that is like one of his favorite,
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like it's one of his go-to steakhouse chains.
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I mean it's not, I'm not saying
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that he's saying it's the best steakhouse in the world,
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but it's like, as far as chain goes, chains go.
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It's, it's up there. And I would tend to agree with him.
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Yeah. Um, and so Texas one year, uh, Colton and I
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and Brian Herda went out to dinner
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and I was like, oh, let's go to Del Frisco's.
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'cause like I've been there once before with Marco
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and Scottsdale and had a great experience
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and we went, it was a disgusting meal.
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Like it was horrible really to the point
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where Co Colton was like WTF like Yeah.
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And he's still, this is probably 20 20, 20 21. Mm-hmm .
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And to this day he still like comments on
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how bad that meal was.
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And anytime that he has anything that we ordered,
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he sends like a picture being like better in Del
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Frisco's. Anyways, so
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Supply chain issues, well they supply chain issues.
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So they opened a, they have like a, like a step
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above their normal, excuse me,
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Del Frisco's chain called the Double Eagle.
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And they're in like six different cities
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and very rare this open in indie.
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It is not, um, this opened in indie, I want to say
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It was a bourbon joke, Tim,
October-ish time.
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'cause I went there during football season October,
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November time, went there with some buddies,
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we sat at the bar and we had an awesome meal.
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Like it was, it was like bam.
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This immediately vaults to like one
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of my favorite steakhouse, Mindy,
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which we have no shortage of.
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And so fast forward, what is it?
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I mean, six months, five, six months.
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And I was like, oh, Tim
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was downtown, wanted to go to dinner.
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So the four of us went
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and grabbed dinner and I was like, let's go there.
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And I had to agree with Tim.
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Like I don't, I'm not gonna agree to the level
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of complaining that he did,
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but like, I'm a complaint. It wasn't
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Awesome. I'm a
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Complainant.
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Um, but I've never seen it's, Tim's changed recently
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and uh, yeah, something's he's changed.
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I don't know what it is specifically.
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Yeah. And now, now he goes to nice steakhouse.
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He is like very picky.
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Just a little, not a, not, uh, not refined enough for me.
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Not quite curated enough for my,
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I this isn't artisanal as I was hoping it was gonna be.
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I have eaten eating nice steakhouse for much longer than
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I've had any right to eat at nice steak houses. .
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I have not paid for dinner at nice
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House.
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Yeah, but you haven't complained because this
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Was No, this was an objectively bad steak.
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You tried it, you know that it wasn't good.
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Anyways, we've now done this saltine challenge
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Talking about my steak.
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I don't, that's not true. The steak, the steak was not bad.
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It was over seasoned.
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And Tim, despite his obsession
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with dirty martinis apparently doesn't like salt.
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And so like, it was too salty for him. .
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But then, but then get this James cocktail,
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his martini wasn't salty enough.
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Was too sweet. No, his first cocktail was too sweet.
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And then the other food was, was too
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Hot. Okay. Too
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Hot.
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Yes.
Ah, Tim, how was your meal, Alex?
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My meal was
Slightly over seasoned on the steak.
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My meal was good. Um, the starters were good.
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My, my, my drink was good.
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Um, I forgot to order a salad, so that wasn't their fault.
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It didn't come. Your wife
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and I actually both did the same thing.
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We both in our minds thought.
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We told the waiter we ordered a salad . We
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Both mentally ordered
Minutes, realize,
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realize that we didn't.
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And you're like, huh, we
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can't really hold that against them.
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No, that would be unfair.
Yeah. Um, my steak was good.
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It was on the, on the overseas side,
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but it was still, it was still good.
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I ate it all. Um, they, Becky
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and Tim ordered this disgusting truffle potato dish
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and no wonder no one liked it.
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I like that one. 'cause no one likes truffles.
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Well, you didn't eat any of it, so color me. Shocked.
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And that was our meal anyways. That was our Easter.
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That was our Easter. James, you did something
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that was much more noble than Tim whining at a, um,
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High end steakhouse.
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High Steakhouse. Yeah.
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Uh, so why don't you tell everyone what you did for Easter?
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Uh, I flew home to Toronto and surprised my family.
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So I guess we went to go surprise mom for Easter, basically.
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Um, she had sent a message to the family saying, Hey,
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here's the plan, but like, understand that James
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and Becky probably can't make it.
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We just got back from this marathon trip.
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We've been on the road, we got the busy
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may coming up, all this stuff.
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Family are very understanding about that stuff.
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But, um, I knew I had to be up later in the week
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for some stuff anyway.
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And I was like, I can come out early and I can surprise mom.
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So I told my sister. So she was in on the joke, um, joke.
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And I just needed to make sure
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that like the plans didn't change or something
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and I ended up at the wrong restaurant
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or the wrong time or something.
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So, so she was in on it.
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And it was funny
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because I, I showed up at my mom's house right
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as they were kind of ready to leave for the,
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uh, for lunch, right.
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They were heading out to lunch and it was my mom, my aunt,
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my sister, and my niece and my sister had come out
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and she had like pulled my mom's car kind of out,
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like made a shuffle the driveway around
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because of my aunt's car or whatever.
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And um, so my mom's car was sitting there.
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It's got the car seat for my niece.
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And so Becca's like, I'm gonna drive with Carol,
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who's our aunt, and you can ride with mom and Kaylee.
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So like, just go wait in mom's car and I'll bring them out.
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So I was just sitting in the driver's seat
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and mom comes out with Kalee
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and you know, Kalee sits in the back
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passenger seat in a car seat.
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And so she opens the door and Kalee gets in
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and like kinda looks at me and is staring at me,
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but doesn't really react in any way.
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And mom's just there just like, all right,
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let's get your seatbelt done up.
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And it's probably, and I'm just,
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I'm just turned around staring.
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I'm staring right at her face.
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And it was probably a solid 30 seconds.
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Her and Kaylee have this little back
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to back, all this stuff, whatever.
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My sister and my aunt are getting into Becca's car and
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after about 30 seconds my mom like goes to shut the door
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and looks up and sees this person sitting in her car
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that she wasn't expecting.
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And the noise that came out of her was hilarious.
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Like, she just started screaming my aunt,
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like a whale came running over.
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Yeah, right. My aunt came running over,
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she was like, we found out afterwards.
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She goes, I thought there was a snake in the car.
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I'm like, okay. So that's, that's
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what you jumped based on mom's reaction.
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That's what she defaulted to was
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that there was a snake in the
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car. Well, 'cause that happens.
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Snakes in the grass, bro. Yeah.
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Tell you. Yeah. So it was funny.
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So she was, yeah, she came running over.
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It was very, she's very happy and whatever.
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So we had a great lunch. My brother
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and his wife came as well
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and then just went back to mom's house and just caught up.
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Just hung out for the evening. And uh, some friends,
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some neighborhood friends came over.
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What a nice sun you are that so, yeah, I have my moments.
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So man, you, you make the rest of us look like,
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I feel like I'm making up
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for probably a decade of not doing that stuff.
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Mm. But um, you
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Don't have to say that.
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It was really, you can just
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take, you can just take the wind. Appreciate it.
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I'll take it, I'll take it. Um, that was great.
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I mean, Tim Tim's at his mom's house,
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but he didn't surprise her.
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He either probably pick her up from the
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Airport.
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I mean, go to my nephew's baptism.
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I feel like that kind of counts for something
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That's
Yeah, that's, that's noble. That's I feel like
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I'll give you, I deserve like a good steak.
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No, no.
Well no. Listen Tim,
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Did you, did you pay for your
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Steak?
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Uh, I tried. Did you, Alex,
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Did you send it back and ask for a free steak?
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I did not.
What, what did,
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what did you do as said stake, just let
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Someone didn't like someone else pay for your,
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You said you loved it, you said no, no, no.
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He did offer, he did offer.
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I wouldn't let him 'cause he bought me dinner in Long Beach.
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It's fine. Um, but he, uh, everyone came by.
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I think even the GM stopped by
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and they were like, oh, how is everything?
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He was like, oh, it's fantastic. . I want to go box, please.
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I can't. I want it to
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Go box.
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Cant wait, come back. That's, I can't wait to What did do,
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What did you do with the to box?
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My, you know, it, it's not far from being beef jerky,
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so I might just see if I can push it over
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The edge.
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Damn damn
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.
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Oh goodness gracious
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Me. Well there's testing.
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Well no, Tim, other than that, how was your Easter?
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Let's talk about Easter. Like was it good? Yeah.
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Did you have a nice Easter?
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Oh, are you talking to me? Yeah.
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Um, I'm, I became a godfather, which was kind of cool.
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My, my nephew Bo.
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Um, and then we did an Easter egg hunt over at
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my, my mom's place.
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And uh, then I had a mediocre place.
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Did you find any Easter egg?
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I found 'em. All those kids are terrible.
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I think it's like, you know,
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It's pretty cruel what
You were doing there.
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Hazel bow Owen. They were just, you know, they,
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they brought a certain amateurs to it that I, it just,
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I didn't appreciate they weren't there to win. It's
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An amateur vibe. Yeah, it's an amateur
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Vibe.
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They weren't there. Um, I have a question.
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So you're a godfather. Congrats. Thank you.
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Um, do you, like in your,
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I don't wanna say in your family in this very specific
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relationship, um,
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'cause it could be different for others I guess,
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in your family, but like,
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is this like a ceremonial kind of post?
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Or like, are you, are you, like if something happens
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to your brother, you get the kid kinda like,
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is this like the, I don't know, the true sense of the,
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The God there was also like, there's also like
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a godmother in the mix.
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So, and she seemed way more responsible than me.
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So I think like if anything actually happens,
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Is she single?
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Uh, she's not. Um,
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So I just didn't know, like, are godfather
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and godmother supposed to be a, like a, I
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Don't know what that makes sense. I don't know.
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Yeah, well 'cause 'cause you're, you're, yeah,
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you're a God couple, I guess.
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Yeah. You're God
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Dated.
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So like it's so, it, it's, correct me if I'm wrong,
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is this in case, God forbid something were
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to happen to the parents,
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That's how I understood it. You would take over.
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That's like a, you know. So then, so then how do
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You decide who
Takes priority?
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Godfather, godmother?
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Do you just get half or, I dunno, how does it work? I mean,
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Hopefully my brother and sister-in-law will be fine. Um,
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Right, well, yeah, no, obviously you
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Don't sign up for that.
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But like we, so we did this, you know, we have a goddaughter
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and we, like, we were told very explicitly, they're like,
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Hey, just so you know,
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we mean it like in the biblical sense, like this is,
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we are choosing you guys in case something happens
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to us to raise our kid.
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So like when you say, oh yes, we'd love to be like, we,
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we need you to, to really know what you're signing up for.
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This isn't like sending your birthday cards and,
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and you know, some money for Christmas.
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Like this is, there's a thing
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Here.
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See, but now you got me thinking about it
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because I had that conversation with my brother,
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with my nephew's dad, where I was just like, Hey,
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just let know, like in my will,
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like you're the guy in case anything goes wrong.
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And he was like, he was very naive, said thank you.
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And it was like an honor. But there was no point
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where he asked me that back.
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Like, , you know,
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So, so sorry.
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So the G So B'S going to the godmother got, yeah. Okay.
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Moving on. Cake. Uh, probably a smart move. Probably
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A smart move.
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She seems like she has it more together than I do.
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That is a low bar my friend. Yeah.
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Okay. Well there's testing this week.
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Should we talk about that?
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Yes. No, . Oh
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Well you were, so you tested in October
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and we covered that and that was with the hybrid.
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So now let's just, well this comes out, this comes out
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Thursday and we've already gonna have been on track.
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So like it's hard to talk about. Um,
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We just have to tune in next week.
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Yeah, I mean it, yeah, we have a test.
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It's irrelevant in a lot of ways.
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Um, although the weather will be the caveat, the caveat to
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that is the weather will be
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probably decently representative.
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It looks to be fairly warm on Thursday.
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I think the most interesting thing about this test is gonna
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be big boost, um, big boost Thursday morning,
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which is not normal for a test.
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Usually, uh, the big boost doesn't come until Friday,
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fast Friday, Friday before qualifying.
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And you only have it for those three days
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and you've never seen it except for last year.
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So this is a little bit of a new thing that they're doing.
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Um, just to see quite honestly
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how fast the cars are gonna go with the
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extra drag from the hybrid.
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Um, so James
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and I were talking about, it's a little,
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it's a little disappointing
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because yeah, you're not gonna have the mystique
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around like the pecking order and everything.
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'cause all of practice week is dictated by toes
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and all this sort of thing.
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And, and when you get to Friday,
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everyone focuses on clean air
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and it's the first time everyone's seen big booths
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and it's the first time people start to trim
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and you really have an understanding of who good,
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who's good and who isn't.
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While we're not gonna see like full transparency of that
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on Thursday, you're gonna get an indication,
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which is kind of sad.
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I think it is kind of sad.
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'cause like you can have even, even you can do enough,
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you know, no to lap analysis during the practice week
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to kind of see like, okay,
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by themselves out front at whatever downforce they're
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running, this is what Car X, Y, Z can do and whatever.
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But the engines are different when you put the boost up
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and the manufacturers, you know, if, if one guy,
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if one has an edge in race trim,
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that doesn't necessarily mean they've got a speed edge
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in, in qualifying trim.
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And we've seen that yo-yo and go back
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and forth over the last, you know, dozen years or whatever.
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But, and we just don't get that now.
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Like we're, we're gonna know.
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Like, and I'm, I'm there the both days. Yeah.
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I'm calling it for the, for the broadcast
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and I'll, we'll, I'll know exactly who
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because it's not like they can do much between
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April 24th or whatever. And, and,
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And it's not even like, and it's not even like,
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so we're not, you,
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you're obviously not gonna have like full kill in,
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but it's not like you can, you can dick
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around in like full mixtures.
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Like, because IndyCar needs representative numbers of like
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what it's gonna do because do they need to make a change
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before the month in terms
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of boost levels and that sort of thing?
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So like you, you have to go out
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and do something fairly representative.
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I mean, they're not gonna make you, you know,
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trim all the way, but like, they want you to do
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a fast lap and see what it does. Right.
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And and unlike October,
507
00:18:43.685 --> 00:18:46.325
everyone's gonna have like their speedway cars
508
00:18:46.505 --> 00:18:47.765
and they're, they're good stuff.
509
00:18:47.765 --> 00:18:48.765
Yep. For the most part. Yeah.
510
00:18:48.765 --> 00:18:50.445
Like it's not gonna be all your like top,
511
00:18:50.545 --> 00:18:52.925
top tier qualifying no gear that you throw on,
512
00:18:52.945 --> 00:18:54.085
but it'll be good stuff.
513
00:18:54.435 --> 00:18:55.685
Yeah. So you'll have a good idea.
514
00:18:56.305 --> 00:18:59.565
Um, do you know, Alex, have you been told
515
00:18:59.665 --> 00:19:01.845
or has it been, you know, indicated to you
516
00:19:01.875 --> 00:19:04.885
that there's a chance they can
517
00:19:05.025 --> 00:19:08.525
or would change something like on the hybrid side,
518
00:19:08.645 --> 00:19:09.845
I guess like if
519
00:19:10.235 --> 00:19:11.565
Well, so there's nothing they
520
00:19:11.565 --> 00:19:12.885
Can change,
Change, say on the hi.
521
00:19:13.025 --> 00:19:16.445
So, so to to make it clear, it's not that they're slower
522
00:19:16.445 --> 00:19:19.365
because the hybrid is not making enough power per se.
523
00:19:19.555 --> 00:19:22.885
It's the, because Indy, you're flat out obviously.
524
00:19:23.105 --> 00:19:25.085
Um, so it's the parasitic drag
525
00:19:25.085 --> 00:19:27.325
that exists in the gearbox just
526
00:19:27.325 --> 00:19:31.885
because the, the final drive is going
527
00:19:31.885 --> 00:19:34.285
through another system and another layer
528
00:19:34.305 --> 00:19:35.645
before it gets to the drive shafts
529
00:19:35.645 --> 00:19:36.765
and the wheels and all that sort of thing.
530
00:19:36.825 --> 00:19:40.725
So there's just an inherent power loss in that, right?
531
00:19:40.725 --> 00:19:41.965
There's just a power reduction
532
00:19:41.965 --> 00:19:43.645
because it's going through another system.
533
00:19:44.425 --> 00:19:47.005
Um, so I don't think there's,
534
00:19:47.005 --> 00:19:48.885
they're looking at tweaking the hybrids.
535
00:19:49.045 --> 00:19:51.645
I think depending on how bad it is will be,
536
00:19:51.785 --> 00:19:54.325
how big the panic button reaction is.
537
00:19:54.715 --> 00:19:57.605
Obviously when the arrow screen came, it was very slow
538
00:19:58.225 --> 00:20:00.365
and so we upped the boost, um,
539
00:20:00.455 --> 00:20:02.125
quite significantly for qualifying.
540
00:20:02.695 --> 00:20:05.525
There is of course the possibility to do
541
00:20:05.525 --> 00:20:07.445
that again now to what magnitude?
542
00:20:07.685 --> 00:20:09.525
I don't know. I don't know what the manufacturer's
543
00:20:09.525 --> 00:20:12.405
comfortable with, but obviously it's not a concern from a
544
00:20:12.405 --> 00:20:14.365
tire standpoint because we know the tires will do
545
00:20:14.845 --> 00:20:15.925
a 2 33 average.
546
00:20:16.705 --> 00:20:19.965
Um, so this will purely be if the engine manufacturers are
547
00:20:19.965 --> 00:20:22.405
good with more boost pressure in terms of their reliability
548
00:20:22.405 --> 00:20:23.925
and what they have to do for the rest of the year.
549
00:20:28.385 --> 00:20:30.925
So the, the question I've got though is, you know,
550
00:20:30.925 --> 00:20:32.845
every track that we go to now with the hybrid system,
551
00:20:33.395 --> 00:20:37.925
IndyCar and the manufacturers, they, they designate a, um,
552
00:20:38.105 --> 00:20:41.125
an amount of energy in joules that you are allowed
553
00:20:41.125 --> 00:20:43.165
to expel per lap, right?
554
00:20:43.985 --> 00:20:47.350
And that number is based on a lot of different factors
555
00:20:47.585 --> 00:20:49.325
and it changes track to track
556
00:20:49.465 --> 00:20:51.085
and it's even changed from,
557
00:20:51.265 --> 00:20:53.485
it will change from similar tracks this year.
558
00:20:53.535 --> 00:20:55.565
It'll be higher at certain tracks than it was last year,
559
00:20:55.805 --> 00:20:58.485
whatever, when you're in qualifying obviously.
560
00:20:58.625 --> 00:20:59.725
So, so part of the thing
561
00:20:59.725 --> 00:21:00.925
that you're looking at is the
562
00:21:00.925 --> 00:21:02.085
reliability of the system, right?
563
00:21:02.105 --> 00:21:06.205
It needs to be able to do that amount of energy for a hour
564
00:21:06.205 --> 00:21:08.765
and a half to two hour race at Road America
565
00:21:08.985 --> 00:21:10.485
or St Pete or whatever.
566
00:21:11.305 --> 00:21:14.885
But when you're talking about four laps for qualifying,
567
00:21:15.555 --> 00:21:19.215
you've got a little bit more of a margin in terms of,
568
00:21:19.555 --> 00:21:22.295
you know, the, the, the tolerance of the system, right?
569
00:21:22.475 --> 00:21:24.535
How hot it gets and, and all that.
570
00:21:24.755 --> 00:21:27.375
So is there a possibility, have you heard
571
00:21:27.375 --> 00:21:30.255
of any possibilities of rather than just crank an extra
572
00:21:30.255 --> 00:21:31.495
boost in maybe
573
00:21:31.635 --> 00:21:35.215
for qualifying being given a different energy amount
574
00:21:35.805 --> 00:21:38.215
than like you'll what you'll have in the race
575
00:21:38.365 --> 00:21:40.975
because the system can tolerate it for four laps?
576
00:21:41.895 --> 00:21:43.185
Yeah, I don't know the answer to that.
577
00:21:43.265 --> 00:21:46.465
I mean, I know the system, you know, we're not using it as
578
00:21:46.465 --> 00:21:47.745
to its capacity,
579
00:21:47.885 --> 00:21:49.745
but I don't know that it has enough in it
580
00:21:49.765 --> 00:21:52.185
to actually offset the, the existing drag.
581
00:21:52.965 --> 00:21:56.145
The, the thing that I'm gonna be excited to see
582
00:21:57.355 --> 00:21:59.805
when we get to Thursday morning of the test and these,
583
00:22:00.105 --> 00:22:02.645
and the boost is up and the quality sims are starting is
584
00:22:02.645 --> 00:22:06.365
like, you know, this is a brand new toy for everybody.
585
00:22:06.745 --> 00:22:09.125
We all know how tight indie qualifying is, right?
586
00:22:09.695 --> 00:22:11.245
We're talking hundreds
587
00:22:11.245 --> 00:22:14.445
and thousands of a second, over four laps,
588
00:22:14.445 --> 00:22:15.645
10 miles, all that stuff, right?
589
00:22:16.825 --> 00:22:18.765
The strategy that teams use
590
00:22:19.385 --> 00:22:22.365
for the hybrid deployment is gonna be super fascinating.
591
00:22:22.525 --> 00:22:24.605
'cause like you say, you're flat out the whole time, right?
592
00:22:24.705 --> 00:22:27.085
So recharging it, if you wanna recharge,
593
00:22:27.085 --> 00:22:28.845
it takes speed away.
594
00:22:28.845 --> 00:22:30.725
You have to manually hold the paddle, which is,
595
00:22:30.735 --> 00:22:33.685
which essentially is, is reducing the power that's going
596
00:22:33.685 --> 00:22:35.045
to the wheels because it's charging the system.
597
00:22:35.745 --> 00:22:39.525
Do you use it, you know, coming to the green flag on,
598
00:22:39.545 --> 00:22:41.085
on the start of your first lap?
599
00:22:41.185 --> 00:22:42.685
Do you use it on your last lap?
600
00:22:42.745 --> 00:22:45.205
Do you use it once the tire once you see a drop off?
601
00:22:45.205 --> 00:22:47.925
And it's like, and obviously I know you can't answer
602
00:22:47.925 --> 00:22:49.765
what you're gonna do, but it's, for me,
603
00:22:49.835 --> 00:22:52.765
it's gonna be super fascinating to watch everybody
604
00:22:52.905 --> 00:22:56.245
and try to get a grasp of who's doing what.
605
00:22:56.965 --> 00:22:58.965
I know everybody's gonna be trying different things.
606
00:22:59.115 --> 00:23:00.565
Like for the teams it's great.
607
00:23:00.725 --> 00:23:05.435
'cause normally on Fast Friday, right, you budget a number
608
00:23:05.435 --> 00:23:07.915
of tires, you, you can only use 'em once.
609
00:23:08.415 --> 00:23:12.995
And so it's five runs, it's six runs, maybe seven.
610
00:23:13.015 --> 00:23:14.195
If you're not having a good day
611
00:23:14.195 --> 00:23:15.875
and you're worried about making the show,
612
00:23:16.935 --> 00:23:18.915
but that's all you get.
613
00:23:19.135 --> 00:23:20.835
And if on top of tuning your car
614
00:23:21.055 --> 00:23:22.915
and trying to figure out balance and,
615
00:23:23.055 --> 00:23:24.395
and you know, arrow balance
616
00:23:24.455 --> 00:23:26.995
and whatever, you are also having to try
617
00:23:27.585 --> 00:23:31.835
four different strategies of, of hybrid usage.
618
00:23:32.235 --> 00:23:35.075
I mean that's, that's really eating up your time
619
00:23:35.175 --> 00:23:37.515
and it's gonna be hard to then like figure out, okay,
620
00:23:37.515 --> 00:23:39.795
well we want this set up with this arrow balance
621
00:23:40.055 --> 00:23:42.275
and this hybrid deployment strategy.
622
00:23:42.905 --> 00:23:44.955
Like, so Thursday's gonna be very helpful
623
00:23:45.305 --> 00:23:46.965
for all the teams. Um,
624
00:23:47.595 --> 00:23:48.595
It's cute.
625
00:23:48.595 --> 00:23:50.885
You think all that you do there are, you know, they're all,
626
00:23:51.485 --> 00:23:52.965
everyone uses the same simulation.
627
00:23:53.285 --> 00:23:54.685
Everyone comes to the same conclusion.
628
00:23:55.665 --> 00:23:57.085
Yes. But you, you're telling me
629
00:23:57.085 --> 00:23:58.405
that you're not gonna try anything
630
00:23:58.405 --> 00:24:00.525
that the simulation tools are telling you.
631
00:24:00.525 --> 00:24:03.005
You're not gonna try one alternate strategy, right?
632
00:24:03.315 --> 00:24:04.325
Yeah, of course you will.
633
00:24:04.385 --> 00:24:06.125
But it's unfortunately,
634
00:24:06.185 --> 00:24:10.045
but it's also unfortunately that, that
635
00:24:10.045 --> 00:24:11.485
what you're explaining is the dream.
636
00:24:11.595 --> 00:24:14.845
Unfortunately, this system just doesn't offer enough
637
00:24:15.765 --> 00:24:17.885
versatility to like be used in that manner.
638
00:24:18.275 --> 00:24:20.245
It's just not, it's not there way
639
00:24:20.245 --> 00:24:21.245
To ruin now.
640
00:24:21.245 --> 00:24:22.885
I don't care about Thursday morning. I hope you don't get
641
00:24:22.885 --> 00:24:25.045
high boost running and everybody gets to Fast Friday
642
00:24:25.065 --> 00:24:26.285
and they're totally <inaudible> lost.
643
00:24:26.505 --> 00:24:27.505
So there
644
00:24:28.275 --> 00:24:30.445
Well you have some attitude on you, don't you?
645
00:24:30.915 --> 00:24:34.045
Well, only when you put it on me. Okay.
646
00:24:34.155 --> 00:24:35.205
It's your attitude mm
647
00:24:35.645 --> 00:24:36.645
Hmm.
648
00:24:36.645 --> 00:24:37.445
Phrasing. So it's what
You did.
649
00:24:37.485 --> 00:24:38.325
I don't know if that works then.
650
00:24:38.385 --> 00:24:41.565
Um,
It was close. It was close.
651
00:24:42.515 --> 00:24:44.205
Only when you put it on me. Yeah.
652
00:24:44.495 --> 00:24:45.845
Close to a phrasing objection.
653
00:24:46.305 --> 00:24:48.845
Mm.
It's border mine. I think I'll give it to him. Mm.
654
00:24:49.595 --> 00:24:51.405
Okay,
Well objection
655
00:24:51.605 --> 00:24:52.605
phrasing.
.
656
00:24:54.505 --> 00:24:58.325
See that was good. Uh, funny, funny, funny.
657
00:24:58.785 --> 00:25:00.485
Um, all that's enough about the indie
658
00:25:00.485 --> 00:25:01.525
test. Let's talk about formula.
659
00:25:02.075 --> 00:25:03.405
Formula. Uh, guys,
660
00:25:03.625 --> 00:25:06.285
max Tappin is really good at driving race cars fast
661
00:25:07.745 --> 00:25:09.925
It, it's incredible, isn't it?
662
00:25:10.185 --> 00:25:12.805
The pole thing was insane, dude.
663
00:25:12.985 --> 00:25:14.685
It again, it was the last corner.
664
00:25:14.955 --> 00:25:19.245
Like he just doesn't give up and everyone else does
665
00:25:19.515 --> 00:25:21.365
because he was down
666
00:25:21.785 --> 00:25:24.405
and like Oscar is in the better car,
667
00:25:24.405 --> 00:25:27.245
just like Lando is in the better car at Suzuka
668
00:25:27.625 --> 00:25:30.525
and Max, I don't know how he has the
669
00:25:31.315 --> 00:25:32.645
foreshadowing capability,
670
00:25:32.645 --> 00:25:33.885
but he is like, oh, I clearly need
671
00:25:33.885 --> 00:25:34.885
to get it all in this corner.
672
00:25:35.185 --> 00:25:38.445
And he does again. And it's just the weight pulls it off.
673
00:25:38.475 --> 00:25:39.765
It's mind boggling. Yeah.
674
00:25:40.055 --> 00:25:42.605
Ridiculous. And like, look, I I,
675
00:25:43.705 --> 00:25:46.045
and here's the thing, it's even hard to say that like
676
00:25:48.575 --> 00:25:51.425
yeah, maybe the Red Bull's not as bad as
677
00:25:52.145 --> 00:25:53.755
they think it is, or people say it is.
678
00:25:53.755 --> 00:25:56.715
Or maybe the McLaren's not as far ahead as you know,
679
00:25:56.715 --> 00:25:57.755
people are saying it is.
680
00:25:58.245 --> 00:26:00.515
There are, there are elements to consider. Yes.
681
00:26:01.095 --> 00:26:04.355
Suzuka and Jetta both very smooth, very high speed tracks.
682
00:26:04.415 --> 00:26:06.755
The Red Bull is good in high speed corners.
683
00:26:06.865 --> 00:26:09.035
It's good on, you know, it's not good on bumpy tracks.
684
00:26:09.295 --> 00:26:11.915
So these are two attributes that, that play into the favor.
685
00:26:12.225 --> 00:26:15.115
Sure. McLaren is also good at all those things.
686
00:26:15.935 --> 00:26:18.355
Um, the race is a different story.
687
00:26:18.785 --> 00:26:23.385
Tire deck and whatever, but like in practice, right?
688
00:26:24.155 --> 00:26:26.005
Everybody's pushing in practice, right?
689
00:26:26.005 --> 00:26:28.325
You're not, you're not 11 tenths in practice,
690
00:26:28.325 --> 00:26:29.285
but you're pushing, you're trying to
691
00:26:29.285 --> 00:26:30.365
get your, your stuff together.
692
00:26:31.395 --> 00:26:33.285
Yuki was like decently close to Max.
693
00:26:33.405 --> 00:26:35.605
Like he had a, a reasonable kind of gap
694
00:26:35.745 --> 00:26:38.845
and, you know, made it into Q3 is the first time since like,
695
00:26:39.145 --> 00:26:41.765
it was like Azerbaijan a year ago that
696
00:26:42.275 --> 00:26:45.585
both Red Bulls were in Q3, which is nuts, but um,
697
00:26:47.125 --> 00:26:49.225
but then you get to qualifying, right?
698
00:26:49.225 --> 00:26:50.225
So Yuki's done a good job.
699
00:26:50.255 --> 00:26:53.905
He's been closest ish to to max and that's fine.
700
00:26:54.525 --> 00:26:55.625
You get to qualifying
701
00:26:55.805 --> 00:27:00.115
and in Q3, UQ was a second slower.
702
00:27:01.685 --> 00:27:05.505
So in q in qualifying in Q3 on that lap, like you're saying,
703
00:27:05.685 --> 00:27:07.705
max just is able to find some,
704
00:27:07.735 --> 00:27:10.585
it's not like Max isn't pushing in practice, right?
705
00:27:11.445 --> 00:27:15.225
But the fact that he's able to find that amount of pace
706
00:27:15.805 --> 00:27:17.785
in comparison to the other guy in the same car.
707
00:27:19.735 --> 00:27:22.035
Unreal. It was so fun to
708
00:27:22.035 --> 00:27:23.035
Watch.
709
00:27:23.035 --> 00:27:25.075
Did you, did you watch, did you watch the pole lap like the
710
00:27:25.075 --> 00:27:26.395
onboard of the whole lap? Yeah,
711
00:27:26.655 --> 00:27:27.655
Of course.
712
00:27:27.865 --> 00:27:29.555
It's like, it's
Just his,
713
00:27:29.575 --> 00:27:30.755
his commitment, it's perfection.
714
00:27:30.975 --> 00:27:33.635
His, his turn. Like the way he's just, he's got
715
00:27:33.695 --> 00:27:35.035
so much confidence in that car,
716
00:27:35.065 --> 00:27:36.715
even when he doesn't have confidence in that car.
717
00:27:37.375 --> 00:27:38.875
Ah, it's, it's incredible man.
718
00:27:39.305 --> 00:27:42.195
It's so, and the road that he uses, like, it's just,
719
00:27:43.375 --> 00:27:46.075
you can't help but say yeah, you're the guy.
720
00:27:46.075 --> 00:27:49.835
Yeah. Um, alright, so he pulls off a stunner,
721
00:27:50.095 --> 00:27:53.595
he pulls off a stunner in, in qualifying Lando, uh,
722
00:27:53.945 --> 00:27:55.035
crashes through.
723
00:27:55.895 --> 00:27:58.035
It wasn't like, he was pretty hard on himself.
724
00:27:58.185 --> 00:28:01.235
Like it was a, it was a simple mistake. It happens. It
725
00:28:01.235 --> 00:28:02.835
Was a small mistake, but just had a big
726
00:28:02.835 --> 00:28:03.995
Consequence, right?
727
00:28:04.235 --> 00:28:06.875
I mean, he's not, anyways. Exactly.
728
00:28:07.175 --> 00:28:09.835
Um, and I really need him to get over that.
729
00:28:10.315 --> 00:28:12.275
I really need him because I like Lando.
730
00:28:12.435 --> 00:28:13.875
I want Lando to win a championship.
731
00:28:14.295 --> 00:28:16.715
And I don't, I don't know that
732
00:28:16.715 --> 00:28:19.235
that mentality is like the right one.
733
00:28:19.755 --> 00:28:21.235
I don't, I don't know, maybe it is,
734
00:28:21.615 --> 00:28:23.915
but like he's, he's so hard on himself
735
00:28:24.015 --> 00:28:25.595
and so honest all of the time.
736
00:28:25.665 --> 00:28:27.635
It's like, bro, people are gonna take advantage of that.
737
00:28:28.025 --> 00:28:32.595
Like, so have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Come on. No,
738
00:28:32.975 --> 00:28:34.075
I'm glad you brought this up
739
00:28:34.075 --> 00:28:35.875
because by the time this comes out,
740
00:28:36.435 --> 00:28:39.795
I will have published an article on f one.com on this
741
00:28:40.025 --> 00:28:41.075
very topic.
742
00:28:41.375 --> 00:28:42.835
So let's chat about it
743
00:28:42.835 --> 00:28:46.635
because for the last year, let's call it, I've been in,
744
00:28:46.635 --> 00:28:47.835
I've been in that same boat, right?
745
00:28:48.055 --> 00:28:51.595
I'm like, you don't have to air everything in a,
746
00:28:51.595 --> 00:28:52.675
in a post-race or post
747
00:28:52.675 --> 00:28:54.435
qualifying whatever posts session interview.
748
00:28:54.465 --> 00:28:56.675
Like you, you beat up yourself a lot.
749
00:28:56.745 --> 00:28:58.915
Look, when drivers make mistakes, when you do it,
750
00:28:58.915 --> 00:29:00.275
when I do it, when anybody does it,
751
00:29:00.765 --> 00:29:01.955
we're so hard on ourselves.
752
00:29:01.955 --> 00:29:03.555
That's how, that's how athletes are, right?
753
00:29:03.655 --> 00:29:04.955
You have to be like that to
754
00:29:04.955 --> 00:29:06.235
reach a certain level of the sport.
755
00:29:08.015 --> 00:29:10.675
At the same time, athletes will just stick to drivers.
756
00:29:10.785 --> 00:29:12.595
Drivers are also very good at like
757
00:29:13.325 --> 00:29:14.995
deflecting blame publicly.
758
00:29:15.855 --> 00:29:19.715
You never wanna, unless it's just super blatant.
759
00:29:19.745 --> 00:29:21.955
Like, but even then some guys try to get around it.
760
00:29:22.035 --> 00:29:23.995
I won't mention anyone's name in particular.
761
00:29:24.655 --> 00:29:26.275
God, I really want to say a couple names right now.
762
00:29:26.575 --> 00:29:30.935
But the fact that Lando was, was always not just
763
00:29:30.955 --> 00:29:33.855
so publicly, you know, airing that stuff.
764
00:29:34.315 --> 00:29:36.615
He was even harder on himself than I thought.
765
00:29:36.935 --> 00:29:39.255
A driver, an athlete, a competitor should be, right?
766
00:29:39.255 --> 00:29:41.650
Like, he was so hard on himself in certain situations.
767
00:29:42.925 --> 00:29:45.225
But then there's been a lot of chat about this recently
768
00:29:45.285 --> 00:29:46.665
and he, he, he did an interview
769
00:29:46.685 --> 00:29:50.105
and I read an interesting article, um, that came from it
770
00:29:50.195 --> 00:29:53.705
where he has sort of identified that
771
00:29:55.375 --> 00:29:56.905
that is kind of just who he is
772
00:29:58.165 --> 00:30:01.985
and getting that stuff out and saying it
773
00:30:01.985 --> 00:30:05.145
and getting it off his chest is part of how he deals
774
00:30:05.145 --> 00:30:06.345
with it, right?
775
00:30:06.835 --> 00:30:10.545
Every, every driver has to learn how
776
00:30:10.545 --> 00:30:12.025
to get over incidents and,
777
00:30:12.025 --> 00:30:13.065
and get back on the horse,
778
00:30:13.165 --> 00:30:14.745
get back on the track and put it behind you.
779
00:30:15.785 --> 00:30:17.865
I think it actually takes a tremendous amount
780
00:30:17.865 --> 00:30:20.985
of self-awareness to understand that for him,
781
00:30:21.535 --> 00:30:26.135
what helps him do that is not the like conventional,
782
00:30:27.075 --> 00:30:29.815
you know, belief of what a champion has to be.
783
00:30:29.815 --> 00:30:31.855
They've gotta be like really stoic and brave
784
00:30:31.875 --> 00:30:33.775
and never, you know, self-deprecating or whatever.
785
00:30:34.555 --> 00:30:36.735
But if, if you can do that to the camera,
786
00:30:37.075 --> 00:30:39.135
but then if you go back to your bus
787
00:30:39.355 --> 00:30:41.975
and like, that's not how your mind processes these things
788
00:30:42.635 --> 00:30:44.575
are, are you actually just hurting yourself and,
789
00:30:44.575 --> 00:30:46.615
and you're not really getting over it in the right way.
790
00:30:46.995 --> 00:30:49.895
So if he's been able to identify that's what works for him,
791
00:30:50.375 --> 00:30:53.895
I think that's very smart and then also incredibly brave
792
00:30:54.005 --> 00:30:55.415
because the thing that works
793
00:30:55.435 --> 00:30:58.055
for him is like basically opening yourself up
794
00:30:58.115 --> 00:30:59.455
to global scrutiny.
795
00:31:00.205 --> 00:31:01.415
Okay. Okay.
796
00:31:02.695 --> 00:31:04.695
I I there's nothing that I can say
797
00:31:04.995 --> 00:31:06.295
to disagree with what you're saying.
798
00:31:06.775 --> 00:31:11.335
I guess the thing the, the, the, the risk he runs
799
00:31:12.235 --> 00:31:15.055
is if all Oscar beats him
800
00:31:15.445 --> 00:31:18.295
Yeah,
Forget Max because Max whatever, max, yeah.
801
00:31:18.655 --> 00:31:20.295
Probably will beat them both because he's Max.
802
00:31:20.475 --> 00:31:22.255
But yeah, let's say he doesn't, right,
803
00:31:22.255 --> 00:31:23.775
because the McLaren's just too strong.
804
00:31:24.345 --> 00:31:28.175
Oscar beats him. Everyone is gonna look back on Oscar beat
805
00:31:28.185 --> 00:31:29.375
Lando because he wasn't tough enough.
806
00:31:30.155 --> 00:31:32.415
And whether that's true or not right?
807
00:31:32.415 --> 00:31:34.815
Is, is might not be the case, right?
808
00:31:34.875 --> 00:31:37.175
But do you really, wouldn't you rather, I don't know,
809
00:31:37.175 --> 00:31:40.975
wouldn't you rather ha not give people, I don't know.
810
00:31:41.675 --> 00:31:43.535
You see what I'm saying? But if the best shot you have
811
00:31:43.595 --> 00:31:45.575
to beat him is to do that,
812
00:31:46.525 --> 00:31:48.255
then yeah, you're gonna do whatever.
813
00:31:48.275 --> 00:31:51.135
If you had a, if you, if you could, if you guaranteed
814
00:31:51.135 --> 00:31:54.375
that your best way to win the Indy 500 was
815
00:31:54.375 --> 00:31:55.655
to run a lap naked
816
00:31:55.655 --> 00:31:58.295
around the track on race morning, you would do it.
817
00:31:58.755 --> 00:32:00.295
We, I mean, try it. If you thought, try,
818
00:32:00.295 --> 00:32:02.175
if you believed in your heart, that's
819
00:32:02.175 --> 00:32:04.225
what would help you win the race.
820
00:32:05.415 --> 00:32:07.035
And I don't know. Yeah, I don't, I've not spoken
821
00:32:07.055 --> 00:32:08.675
to Lando about this, but like, just kind of,
822
00:32:08.875 --> 00:32:10.115
I don't these quotes and no,
823
00:32:10.245 --> 00:32:12.835
We're all, we're all, we're all hypothesizing here.
824
00:32:12.985 --> 00:32:14.715
None of us know Lando on a personal level.
825
00:32:14.935 --> 00:32:16.835
Um, and we're being critics from afar.
826
00:32:16.975 --> 00:32:19.235
So it could all be, it could all be complete horse.
827
00:32:19.995 --> 00:32:23.035
I guess my my point is it just, you look at Oscar
828
00:32:23.295 --> 00:32:26.995
and you look at how he conducts himself
829
00:32:26.995 --> 00:32:29.275
and how he has improved in the areas that he's weak
830
00:32:29.815 --> 00:32:33.035
so rapidly and ultimately, um,
831
00:32:33.735 --> 00:32:35.395
has now matched Lando on race wins
832
00:32:36.135 --> 00:32:39.965
and seems completely unfazed positively or negatively.
833
00:32:39.965 --> 00:32:43.685
Like I'm not saying like he's this, this like angry guy
834
00:32:44.265 --> 00:32:45.445
or this super happy guy.
835
00:32:45.675 --> 00:32:48.845
He's just like, he's just this guy that's driving race cars.
836
00:32:48.845 --> 00:32:51.325
Right? He reminds me very much, honestly of,
837
00:32:51.425 --> 00:32:52.485
of Alex Pale, right?
838
00:32:52.755 --> 00:32:55.485
He's just, he's just excited to be there
839
00:32:56.145 --> 00:32:57.885
and the results that come of it are,
840
00:32:57.955 --> 00:32:59.045
they are what they are, right?
841
00:32:59.115 --> 00:33:03.965
Yeah. And so it will just be interesting with, we know
842
00:33:04.065 --> 00:33:08.445
how big the teammate battles are in F1, we know how
843
00:33:08.995 --> 00:33:12.045
that environment can be toxic at times.
844
00:33:12.535 --> 00:33:15.405
Right now they're pals uh, what is
845
00:33:15.405 --> 00:33:16.525
that breaking point, right?
846
00:33:16.595 --> 00:33:18.125
Oscar's leading the championship now.
847
00:33:18.785 --> 00:33:21.725
Um, how long does does that go on?
848
00:33:21.725 --> 00:33:24.125
Like, I think it's a very interesting storyline that'll
849
00:33:24.125 --> 00:33:26.285
develop because I think Oscar,
850
00:33:26.735 --> 00:33:30.205
while he still probably has a little bit of pace to find,
851
00:33:30.305 --> 00:33:31.885
to truly match Lando
852
00:33:32.045 --> 00:33:33.365
'cause land if Lando hadn't crashed,
853
00:33:33.365 --> 00:33:35.485
I think Lando is on Pole and Oscar's third.
854
00:33:36.425 --> 00:33:39.645
But if he does find that, like does does anything start
855
00:33:39.645 --> 00:33:42.085
to break down or does Lando change his approach
856
00:33:42.105 --> 00:33:44.125
or anything like I think it's just one of those storylines
857
00:33:44.125 --> 00:33:46.765
that we're following that's not only just, oh,
858
00:33:46.785 --> 00:33:47.965
red Bull versus McLaren.
859
00:33:47.965 --> 00:33:52.165
It's very much the inner team papaya, Lando Oscar situation.
860
00:33:52.165 --> 00:33:54.605
Which is, I mean, it's a, it's an amazing problem for a team
861
00:33:54.605 --> 00:33:56.685
to have to have two drivers that are of that caliber
862
00:33:56.835 --> 00:34:00.725
that can go 10th for 10th with each other every session
863
00:34:00.865 --> 00:34:02.525
and be fighting to win the race
864
00:34:02.545 --> 00:34:03.885
and win a world championship.
865
00:34:03.885 --> 00:34:05.365
But also it's like the biggest nightmare.
866
00:34:05.365 --> 00:34:07.885
Like it's, that's hard. That's a hard thing to manage.
867
00:34:08.235 --> 00:34:09.325
It's gonna be very difficult
868
00:34:09.345 --> 00:34:12.245
and it's gonna be very fun to watch from the outside
869
00:34:12.425 --> 00:34:14.365
how it plays out and Yeah, you're, you're right.
870
00:34:14.365 --> 00:34:16.405
Again, I don't disagree with what you're saying.
871
00:34:16.635 --> 00:34:19.645
It's, it's, um, it's a, it's a tricky one.
872
00:34:19.705 --> 00:34:21.925
You know, Lando had a quote that was like,
873
00:34:22.125 --> 00:34:24.925
I wanna win a championship the nice guy way.
874
00:34:24.925 --> 00:34:26.805
Right? I don't the whole saying like,
875
00:34:26.805 --> 00:34:27.845
nice guys finished last.
876
00:34:27.965 --> 00:34:30.165
I don't buy into that and I think you could be a good human.
877
00:34:30.585 --> 00:34:32.005
Do think, do you think that's possible?
878
00:34:32.005 --> 00:34:35.045
Because you, you look at, you look at Nico Rossberg, right?
879
00:34:35.185 --> 00:34:37.685
Who, yeah. When you, when you think of him as a person,
880
00:34:37.745 --> 00:34:41.365
you think of him as this very nice, intelligent,
881
00:34:42.115 --> 00:34:44.725
well-spoken, mild mannered individual,
882
00:34:44.985 --> 00:34:48.045
but it's been openly to discussed like the games he had
883
00:34:48.045 --> 00:34:49.645
to play with Lewis to beat him that year.
884
00:34:49.695 --> 00:34:52.165
Right? Right. Like he did not take the nice guy approach.
885
00:34:52.305 --> 00:34:55.445
He tried to mind Lewis at every opportunity that he could
886
00:34:55.545 --> 00:34:57.445
and he won a world championship, right?
887
00:34:57.665 --> 00:34:59.205
And then he retired 'cause he was
888
00:34:59.205 --> 00:35:00.325
like, I don't wanna do that again.
889
00:35:01.045 --> 00:35:04.125
I I feel like Lewis might actually be one
890
00:35:04.125 --> 00:35:05.285
of the better examples here
891
00:35:05.285 --> 00:35:09.565
because you didn't hear the same outta Lewis when he was
892
00:35:09.565 --> 00:35:11.085
trying to beat, whether it was Nico
893
00:35:11.795 --> 00:35:14.005
look like Fernando his rookie year, right?
894
00:35:14.005 --> 00:35:16.485
Like Fernando was the one that was the cutthroat killer
895
00:35:16.675 --> 00:35:17.845
that like, kind of follows
896
00:35:17.845 --> 00:35:19.365
that stereotype of what you have to do.
897
00:35:19.365 --> 00:35:21.725
Yeah. And Lewis as a rookie nearly beat him just being the
898
00:35:21.725 --> 00:35:23.485
kid that was happy to be there, right?
899
00:35:23.595 --> 00:35:26.645
Yeah. When you think of Schumacher, like when I,
900
00:35:26.915 --> 00:35:28.245
this is gonna be an unpopular opinion.
901
00:35:28.315 --> 00:35:31.005
When I think of Schumacher, I think of Adelaide, I think
902
00:35:31.005 --> 00:35:33.485
of Herath, I think of all the dirty Monaco.
903
00:35:33.485 --> 00:35:35.285
Oh six, same. Me too. I think of all the dirty trick me.
904
00:35:35.285 --> 00:35:36.885
Hundred percent. Yeah. Before I think
905
00:35:36.885 --> 00:35:38.305
of the seven championships.
906
00:35:38.775 --> 00:35:42.505
Same. Um, so that guy was willing to do anything.
907
00:35:43.645 --> 00:35:45.745
Vel has actually come out Max Yeah.
908
00:35:45.745 --> 00:35:48.105
Max willing to do anything
Stone Cold killer. Yeah.
909
00:35:48.115 --> 00:35:50.345
Right. Pros Stone Cold killer. I
910
00:35:50.385 --> 00:35:52.905
I, I would, I I actually think Vels gonna be a better
911
00:35:53.185 --> 00:35:54.865
argument that you have versus Lewis
912
00:35:54.865 --> 00:35:58.745
because I think as much as Lewis plays that that
913
00:35:59.375 --> 00:36:02.945
well not plays it, I think he's a very genuinely nice human
914
00:36:03.055 --> 00:36:05.505
that is trying to be in touch with his emotions and,
915
00:36:06.285 --> 00:36:08.505
and is very connected
916
00:36:08.505 --> 00:36:09.985
to his fans and his audience and everything.
917
00:36:10.065 --> 00:36:12.505
I do believe that. But I, I also know behind closed doors,
918
00:36:12.725 --> 00:36:15.745
that's not like he is very intense.
919
00:36:16.275 --> 00:36:18.065
Right?
I don't know
920
00:36:18.065 --> 00:36:19.465
that I've ever heard that about Vel.
921
00:36:19.795 --> 00:36:21.625
Right? So
Maybe he's the example.
922
00:36:21.735 --> 00:36:23.985
Yeah. And Sebs the one that came out recently
923
00:36:24.005 --> 00:36:25.985
and was like praising Lando for this approach
924
00:36:25.985 --> 00:36:28.105
that he is taking and, and talking about his mental health
925
00:36:28.125 --> 00:36:29.345
and not shying away from that.
926
00:36:29.345 --> 00:36:33.465
Because again, if that's what helps you beat it,
927
00:36:34.095 --> 00:36:35.095
Yeah.
928
00:36:35.095 --> 00:36:36.665
Go. Absolutely man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
929
00:36:36.725 --> 00:36:40.665
So, um, I, I want him to be successful with this approach.
930
00:36:41.025 --> 00:36:42.545
'cause I like when someone can break the mold
931
00:36:42.805 --> 00:36:43.805
And do it.
932
00:36:43.805 --> 00:36:45.025
Look, listen, I, I love, I love Lando.
933
00:36:45.305 --> 00:36:46.625
I want him to be successful.
934
00:36:46.665 --> 00:36:48.465
I want Oscar to be successful. I like 'em
935
00:36:48.465 --> 00:36:49.465
Both.
936
00:36:49.465 --> 00:36:49.705
Oscar's phenomenal. Yeah.
937
00:36:49.705 --> 00:36:51.825
I you can't lose in that, in that team right
938
00:36:51.825 --> 00:36:52.825
Now.
939
00:36:52.825 --> 00:36:55.025
I mean, but, but you can because Max's gonna win. Sorry, .
940
00:36:55.385 --> 00:36:57.705
That's my thought. at the end
941
00:36:57.705 --> 00:36:58.825
of the day, neither one of 'em are Max.
942
00:36:58.965 --> 00:37:00.425
So yeah. Um, thanks for playing.
943
00:37:00.685 --> 00:37:03.585
Uh, better luck next year, . Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try again.
944
00:37:03.585 --> 00:37:05.865
I'll get, you know. Yeah. Uh, cool. All right.
945
00:37:06.045 --> 00:37:08.755
Um, that was fun.
946
00:37:10.195 --> 00:37:12.715
I, so this, something happened to me the other day
947
00:37:13.065 --> 00:37:14.235
that I just wanna throw out there
948
00:37:14.375 --> 00:37:17.355
and it's, it's proof that I got into a big,
949
00:37:17.355 --> 00:37:19.675
like Apple Android argument with, uh, a friend over
950
00:37:19.675 --> 00:37:20.675
Easter.
951
00:37:20.675 --> 00:37:22.395
Oh boy. Oh boy. The old green versus blue.
952
00:37:22.705 --> 00:37:25.075
Yeah, the old green versus blue. Disgusting.
953
00:37:25.575 --> 00:37:28.835
And, um, but I, I, I had to,
954
00:37:28.875 --> 00:37:30.835
I think I had the Trump card at the end of the day
955
00:37:30.835 --> 00:37:34.275
because very recently, I dunno if it was a recent update
956
00:37:34.275 --> 00:37:37.315
or whatever, but for the first time in,
957
00:37:37.425 --> 00:37:38.555
when did iPhones come out?
958
00:37:38.775 --> 00:37:43.175
Oh, six, seven, eight, somewhere in there for the first time
959
00:37:43.175 --> 00:37:47.975
that I've owned an iPhone, autocorrect changed
960
00:37:48.565 --> 00:37:49.975
duck to <inaudible>.
961
00:37:51.115 --> 00:37:53.575
And I was so incredible.
962
00:37:53.575 --> 00:37:56.935
Like that is, that is Soci, that's civilization progressing.
963
00:37:56.995 --> 00:37:58.255
And it makes me so happy
964
00:37:58.405 --> 00:38:02.575
because never once when it autocorrected it the other way.
965
00:38:03.155 --> 00:38:06.015
Was it correct? And everybody knew that and Apple knew that.
966
00:38:06.035 --> 00:38:07.735
And so they finally, they were like, look man,
967
00:38:07.735 --> 00:38:09.175
people are writing it anyway.
968
00:38:09.585 --> 00:38:11.535
We're not the, we're not the language police here.
969
00:38:11.745 --> 00:38:14.565
Let's just, when it's, it's no one's telling,
970
00:38:14.745 --> 00:38:17.485
no one's writing anyone to, to duck off,
971
00:38:17.865 --> 00:38:19.125
you know, or to duck themselves.
972
00:38:19.975 --> 00:38:21.525
Let's just, let's just call it what it is
973
00:38:21.705 --> 00:38:24.005
and it actually autocorrected the right way.
974
00:38:24.225 --> 00:38:26.245
And I was, I was blown away. How mad.
975
00:38:26.275 --> 00:38:28.125
Very impressed. How, how mad would he be if you were
976
00:38:28.125 --> 00:38:29.165
trying to type duck?
977
00:38:29.605 --> 00:38:31.165
I-W-I-W-I would find it ironic
978
00:38:31.225 --> 00:38:32.525
and funny and I would not be mad.
979
00:38:32.585 --> 00:38:33.805
I'd be like, you know what, that's fair.
980
00:38:34.065 --> 00:38:36.845
That's okay for the, for the one time a year,
981
00:38:36.965 --> 00:38:41.005
I might write the word duck , which again,
982
00:38:41.045 --> 00:38:42.645
I think would be more of like the verb
983
00:38:42.645 --> 00:38:44.005
rather than the animal.
984
00:38:44.125 --> 00:38:47.725
I don't think I've ever really written texts about ducks.
985
00:38:48.595 --> 00:38:51.535
Wow. Anyway, I just wanted, I thought that was impressive
986
00:38:51.595 --> 00:38:54.535
and I, I further win a further notch in the column
987
00:38:54.635 --> 00:38:56.415
for why iPhones are better than Androids.
988
00:38:56.475 --> 00:38:58.495
Anyway, uh, have fun testing.
989
00:38:58.615 --> 00:39:00.695
I know you're already doing it. You're literally on track
990
00:39:00.695 --> 00:39:02.535
right now, as most people are probably listening to this.
991
00:39:02.635 --> 00:39:04.375
But, um, I hope you're going fast
992
00:39:04.995 --> 00:39:06.135
and I hope you're staying safe.
993
00:39:06.135 --> 00:39:10.255
Thanks. And go fast. Turn left. Yeah, go fast. Turn left.
994
00:39:10.475 --> 00:39:13.775
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995
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996
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