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<v Speaker 1>This is off track.</v>

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Hello and welcome to Off Track with Hinch and Rosses.

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No, nope. Shut up. Shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all watching Ben.</v>

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Well, I was hoping he, he would make some noise  right

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as the recording started,

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but, um, we need to work on his timing.

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Uh, no wonder he doesn't have a job yet. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

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The meeting to talk to about that. He's kind of slacking.

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It's a little embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me. I'm aware. Um, well, indie got a lot of snow, so</v>

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everyone's, everyone's home stuck at home today.

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So here we are, uh, we have a little guest with us,

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which is  bud. Hi dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm. My favorite thing,  .</v>

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He's definitely, he likes the microphone.

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He's that microphone but away. He likes the microphone,

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even though he is pushing it away.

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I think it's really an act of love.

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Um, I have thoroughly been enjoying,

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as have the rest of the group chat.

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Uh, I have not, Kelly's

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Kelly's recent discovery of AI tools

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and, uh, she has been now having AI generate photos

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of Ben doing some pretty impressive

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stuff.
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What? It's unbelievable that he could be doing handstands

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and cooking pancakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, yes. It's quite frankly, yes.</v>

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That's, that seems a little ridiculous,

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but I mean, he looks adorable when he fake. Does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's funny how, how AI still</v>

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with all of the money

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and smart people behind it have not figured out

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hands. Like that is still

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>The dead giveaway and, and text, like hands and text.</v>

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They really, yeah. It's still struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like, I feel like there's some things</v>

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that they intentionally don't like copy on text

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because there's the opportunity to get into some trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>Like copyright issues.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 2>I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>See.</v>

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So that might be an intentional thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>See. I see.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Um, but yes, no, my, my my,</v>

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where I thought you were actually going with that was like,

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we've got this remarkable tool that has the potential to,

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and is currently changing the world

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and it has almost unlimited capabilities,

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and yet you give it to people

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and they just make pictures of their babies,

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riding dogs through the snow .

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how is that not making the</v>

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world a better place, James?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it is. I I'm just saying that's like,</v>

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that's like buying, that's like buying a $50,000 camera

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and just leaving it on automatic

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and just taking photos at like Christmas of the family.

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Right. The capabilities of AI are so vast

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and we just use it for dumb stuff like that.

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I mean, I do the same thing. This is not a,

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this is not a shot at Kelly.

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This is more an indictment of society as a whole.

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It's like, look at this incredible tool we've made.

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It could shape the future and change humanity forever.

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And we're like, yeah, but funny memes though.  . Look

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<v Speaker 3>At him doing a handstand .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Look at doing a handstand with his backwards hands.</v>

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Little, little freaky, little freaky baby.

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Oh, I do love a snow day though. This is, I'm excited.

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Um, I was just out driving around in,

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in Indianapolis, and you know what?

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They've done a pretty good job. All things considered, uh,

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trying to clear up the roads.

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Not great, but for the Midwest, pretty good

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and for a good amount of snow.

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Um, I just Ms. Snow days as a kid, I guess.

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Tim, did you ever have those? Was it ever snowy?

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I know about the big snowstorm was 78,

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but that was a little before your time.

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<v Speaker 3>It would snow a lot. My school was like, they,</v>

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they prided themselves on not doing snow days.

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So in the 12 years,

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<v Speaker 1>That's the, why would you go to that school?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I know. It was awful. And the 12 years that I went to</v>

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that school, we had a single snow day, uh, that said,

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like, I I, we had a few two hour delays.

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I do remember though, like  how much fun it would be

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as a kid when it would be just buckets of snow outside

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and you'd go build a fort, right, .

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Yeah. Like if you had enough,

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you'd just build it with the snow as is.

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But then like, if, if it wasn't enough, you'd just wait

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for them to plow.

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'cause then you'd have the big bank of snow

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and dig in the tunnels and things like that.

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Yeah, yeah. Tunnel in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Snow</v>
<v Speaker 3>Is good. So I, I've been feeling pretty jealous</v>

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looking at all the pictures of, uh, of snow, uh,

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everywhere else in the country except for California.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will, I will, um, say, so I have a,</v>

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I have a snow threshold.

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Um, and, and it, it was time or height?

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Height amount. Quantity. Yeah.

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Um, because I, I really enjoy

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shoveling my driveway and my front path

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and, and all that sort of thing.

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Like it's, it's good exercise, it's satisfying, it's all

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of this sort of things.

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Mm-hmm . And for typical Indiana storms of your dairy

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<v Speaker 1>Management, couple</v>
<v Speaker 2>A year, two to four inches.</v>

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Um, it's a nice couple hour little, you're

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outside in the sunshine, you work up sweat even though it's

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cold out, blood going, it's great.

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11 to 12 inches is beyond that threshold.

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So for the first time in my life, I actually caved

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and I had my driveway plowed.

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And lemme tell you, it's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice. It's a lot, it's a lot quicker</v>

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and cleaner than shoveling it

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because you gotta like, your driveway's a decent

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size that that's Yeah.

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That's gonna take one dude a long time.

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Especially with, with a foot of snow,

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that would've been right,

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<v Speaker 2>Right.</v>

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Not great. And, and so like, we had a, an appointment to get

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to this morning at 8:00 AM

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and I'd forgotten that I had signed up for this

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and I opened the garage at seven 40

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and there was no snow in the driveway.

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I was like, wow. Now I haven't gotten the boys

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<v Speaker 1>Yet, was never, never shoveling again.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true. Because I feel like the bill is gonna be</v>

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way too high and

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<v Speaker 3>Very upsetting.</v>

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I feel like I'm just, I'm just gonna throw this out there

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without the knowledge of whether

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this is a good idea or, or not.

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Have you looked into getting a flame thrower

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<v Speaker 1>That works way,</v>

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that is way less effective, uh, than you think it is?

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Yeah, because yeah, Alex, we you were here when,

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<v Speaker 3>But it seems like it'd be a lot of fun.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of fun. Not cost effective or time effective.</v>

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We had our buddy Drew came over over

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<v Speaker 2>Leaf leaf blowers are about as fun as</v>

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and as effective. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Way less fun. Way less fun.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Way less fun if it doesn't shoot flame.</v>

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What leaf blower do you use? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still, you're still blowing snow.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's</v>
<v Speaker 3>Not the fun part of a flame flower.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This is bizarre.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Fair. Yeah. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Is worse than your dead body in the the lazy river</v>

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thing.
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Which by the way, that's,

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that's a perfect segue if we're done on snow,

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that segues perfectly into, um, this weekend,

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uh, this past weekend at Daytona for the Rolex 24

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and before, no, nobody died in a big body of water.

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I don't, that's not where I'm going with

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<v Speaker 3>This. I was wondering,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of people though, come up to me.</v>

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First of all guys, just thanks for listening.

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We got a lot of fans in the InSpa had a lot

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of people come up to me over the weekend, our fans

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of the show, and we really appreciate it.

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A lot of people were sharing their opinions on dead bodies

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in, in large quantities of water.

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And, um, I, I'm not gonna lie, Tim,

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overwhelming majority on our side,

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but Alex, I was shocked at how many people were kind

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of okay with your take on it. It's weird

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<v Speaker 2>Because I, I went to a, uh,</v>

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Butler University men's college basketball game, uh,

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on Friday night and shout to other people that listen

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to the show and, uh, overwhelming majority agreed with me.

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So I feel like you're No,

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<v Speaker 1>Not buying that. There's just no way. That's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's,</v>
<v Speaker 1>There's just no way. That's true.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It is deadly. True. Actually, ,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I got more than one person yelling at</v>

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us for eating on air.

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'cause they have that like me or whatever it's called. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Misophonia.</v>
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the one.</v>

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So they were like, I had one, I had one woman like,

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beg me to stop eating on air.

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And I, I'm just like, I can't do that.

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'cause it, it bugs Tim so much

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that even though it offends you, one of our fans, fans,

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fans, my my desire to ruin Tim's day is

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so much greater than it is to fix, you know,

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anybody listening's day.

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So what I agreed to was we would give slight

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warnings when it was coming.

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So if you have mesothelioma

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or whatever for the next 10 seconds, mute your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all right. Because I enjoy ruining your day so much.</v>

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I broke into the fast garage

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and messed with you guys breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow. Okay. All right. So perfect. Wow.</v>

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Um, Daytona, uh, James. Yeah. Is that what happened?

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Because yeah, I was watching

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and you were like, first through fifth

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and then I stopped watching and then you were lapped down

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and then you didn't tell me why. So

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<v Speaker 1>Your</v>
<v Speaker 2>Brakes failed. Well,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, let me just add in one last</v>

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thing about Offtrack fans.

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I got a lot of Sour Patch kids over the weekend, um, .

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And, and the funniest part was did you throw

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<v Speaker 2>'em out?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No baby little baby. The here's the baby boy.</v>

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So I opened up the first pack

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'cause they were, I had so many packs sitting there.

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I was like, I gotta have some, because

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I love Sour Patch Kids.

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I was always, I was never up for debate. I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>That's not, I remember that. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But here's, oh God, I hate, you hate so much kids</v>

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<v Speaker 2>And you hate Candy .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. So I opened the first one.</v>

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I was like, I'll just have a couple

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and would you know it not even because of you.

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I ended up finishing the whole bag and I'm like this,

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and now I'm, now I'm copping &lt;inaudible&gt; for something

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that I don't even actually do.

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Apparently I still polish off an entire bag. So whatever.

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Thank you for the Sour Patch Kids.

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My tongue is still raw, but I did enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't had in a while. I feel like we should,</v>

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we should like, be strategic about

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the things we say we don't like.

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If people are just gonna give them to us, like, ah,

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don't you just hate how like gold Bullon feels?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I hate, I hate stacks of 10 grand. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I, you know, didn't say I hate them.</v>

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I like he them did. Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate,</v>
<v Speaker 1>I hate having way I got them in a</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Way because I use it too quickly.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I just hate,</v>
<v Speaker 3>You know, what would be the worst thing,</v>

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the worst thing for me right now would be like a bunch

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of shares of Berkshire Hathaway.

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I just like, do you know, that would annoy me.

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<v Speaker 1>No. Do you know what Alex really hates?</v>

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Guys Hugs from strangers, .

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And that's a lot cheaper than stacks of cash.

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So if you feel inclined, just, just go up

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and hug 'em. Here's the thing, James, unannounced,

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<v Speaker 2>You can't mail those .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No. But enough, enough people show up to your place</v>

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of work, your place of employ that.

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Uh, yeah. Anyway, back to the race.

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Um, yes, Alex, we did have a bit of a problem.

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So the weekend shocker was good.

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<v Speaker 2>That was not a slight at faf, that's just,</v>

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no, it's Daytona. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>Daytona.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have a problem unless you're the six or seven.</v>

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Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>So, um, yeah, we had had a pretty good week of practice.</v>

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Our car was not like our, I I mean, I hate to say it

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and apparently you're not supposed to talk about it,

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but like, our BOP wasn't great in the sense that

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our car was not very quick on the strait.

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It was really good in the infield.

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So like, overlap we're, I mean, we actually weren't

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that close in qualifying.

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We were pretty far off, but we could

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make up some time on the infield.

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But you lose so much time on the straight,

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and unfortunately at Daytona to get passes done,

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you need straight line speed

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or to avoid getting past, you need straight line speed.

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So, Hmm. We were up against it a little bit.

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But that said, we started 10th, I think Sandy kicked us off

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and he was doing a remarkable job.

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Got us up into like eighth, I think.

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I took over, got a, we got a speeding penalty

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because the car was accidentally in the wrong gear.

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And evidently the PLC is based off gear

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and RPM rather than wheel speed, which seems nuts.

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So we're gonna look into that.

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So did a drive through, fell all the way to the back,

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and then got back up to eighth.

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By the time my stints were done, handed it over,

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and then the next time I, I kind

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of disappeared to go have a nap.

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And when I looked again, we were five laps down.

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So evidently I hate that. What happened? I hate that so bad.

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So we had, we had a, a, a part of the,

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of the right front caliper fail.

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And so not a failure they'd ever seen before.

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Like one of those things. Right? Of course, of course.

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Um, so yeah, five laps to get it fixed

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by the time it was all said and done.

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And what was amazing about that?

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Okay, so, so we're five laps down now,

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and it's like, okay, now we're

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just out there trying to get laps back.

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We, we still had 14 hours, I think left in the race.

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Like, let's just go get some laps back.

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And I, so I got back in

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and right at the end of my stint,

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we went full co my second stint.

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So like my time in the car, we got a full course

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caution for fog.

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Mm-hmm. So I jumped outta the car

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and under that caution, we put Andrea in

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who was gonna be finishing for us later.

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And the fog really set in and got comfy.

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So I had left and I was supposed to be done for the night,

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and I went

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and grabbed a little bite to eat, head back

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to the motor home, had my nice little bowl of pasta

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and was just winding down and was about to go to bed.

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And my phone rings and it's like, or tech, it buzzes.

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It's like, Hey, you up.

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It was like, it was like the race car

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version of a booty call.

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It was like, you up. And I was like, oh,

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I had a feeling this was coming.

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And so like, yeah,

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this fog on the forecast is not going anywhere for a while

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and we'd like to give Andrea a bit more time to rest,

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so like, if you don't mind.

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And I was like, yeah, I'll do it.

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So they come, they pick me back up, I go back in.

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I spent two hours.

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So Andrea had been in the car

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for like 30 minutes, 40 minutes.

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I go back in two hours driving around under caution,

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let me tell you, not great.

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Not a ton of fun. So like, you just make a game out of like,

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how much energy can you save a lap?

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Like what's the lowest amount

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of energy use you can do in a lap?

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And like that keeps you, keeps your mind occupied.

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The crew is great. We were like cracking jokes back

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and forth and like just doing an a MA on Twitter

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through the radio, whatever we could to get through it.

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After two hours, I was now up against the rule

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that is you cannot drive more than four hours

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in a six hour window.

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So they had to pull me outta the car.

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They put miracle in the car, heated two hours,

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and then we got Sandy back in the car and heated an hour

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before it went green again.

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So it was like a, I think it was like a six hour caution

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by the time it was all said and done.

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<v Speaker 2>Long, longest to NIMS of history,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Longest NIMS of history, little part of history, which is,</v>

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you know, it's nice to be part of history.

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Um, that's like, that's like two Indy, five hundreds

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of driving around under caution time-wise.

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Mm, mm-hmm . Think about that. That's awful.

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It's just, it's just terrible.

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But we got great again

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and it gave the other two, um,

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the two full-time guys a chance to rest.

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And so I went to bed

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after that, obviously about like 5:00 AM

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five 30, something like that.

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And when I woke up around eight

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or nine, we were only two laps down.

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And then by the time I got up to the pit box,

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we were only one lap down.

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And then with two hours to go,

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we got our last or less than two hours to go.

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We got our last lap back and, uh, we were on the lead lap.

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We, we knew we didn't have the pace of the cars

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that were leading our class,

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so we rolled the dice a little bit on strategy

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and it actually got us up to the front for a little while.

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Like, we led some laps in that last hour, hour and a half.

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Um, and we were kind of, we had kind

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of settled into fourth place.

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And then on the last like two laps, we were super,

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super critical on, on energy.

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It's not gas, it's energy, the way it's done on imsa.

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And so we had to go in like massive fuel save,

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ended up finishing six, crossed the line six.

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But, you know, we rolled the dice.

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We were trying to do something kind of cool, hope

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for a miracle a little bit, but just honestly super,

390
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super oppressed that we came back from five laps down,

391
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having missed six hours of green flag running, which is,

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you know, you're just trapped

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laps down when that's happening.

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So, mm. Um, huge effort from the team.

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Like, it's the first time that I finished on the lead lap

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with Faf , which is sad to say, but true progress.

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So, uh, progress, progress. We're,

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we're making progress last race for the Huan.

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Those guys are gonna debut the new Lambo, uh, Terio,

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GT three car in Sebring.

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But no, that was great, man. It was, it was,

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even though it was not the result at the end of the day

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that we wanted, we were all just kind of really proud

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of the, of the hustle and the team and the fight

405
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and the comeback and, um, it's the best I felt leaving

406
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that race in a long time.

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Even though you're like, you know, bummed about the result,

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especially when you were running at, you know, in the lead

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with 60 ish minutes to go.

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But, um, yeah, it was great man. No rain. We did it.

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That was one of the predictions I didn't check. Fastest lap.

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Do we know if Zech got fastest lap?

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<v Speaker 2>He did not.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Okay. He did not. Well, it's, it was tough.</v>

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Those, uh, those Penske Porsches were pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, I think the 31 car got the fastest lap though.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really? Okay. Yeah. So like halfway. Um,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a lie.</v>

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Oh, of course. All right, well the seven car

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had the fastest lap race winner led three cores

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of the race, yada, yada, yada.

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Um, you get one guess who is second fastest?

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Zi? No, aj Almond Dinger.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No. Someone that really needs a break.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Palolo. Yeah.</v>

425
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of course.

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Of, and those cars like, weren't that good.

427
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Like they didn't have a lot of speed, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>No,</v>
<v Speaker 1>I guess he just, Alex ot it though.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Uhhuh . Oh, I lied. He</v>
<v Speaker 1>Was third fastest.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, the sixth car was the fastest lap.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay.</v>
<v Speaker 2>And still, still second.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh, very impressive, uh, considering that.</v>

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Mm-hmm. And, um,

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<v Speaker 2>He may have had the second fastest lap,</v>

435
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but at least he had the second best average as

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well.
<v Speaker 1>,</v>

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are you serious? Yep.

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'cause again, those cars were not on the same pace

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as the caddies and the PORs, and

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<v Speaker 2>At least, at least it was, um,</v>

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almost a second better than his teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me this Palolo kid might have</v>

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a future in this game?

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Well, on track. Hopefully there was money in

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<v Speaker 2>It.</v>

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Track, yeah. Not off track. .

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean, do we talk about</v>

448
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<v Speaker 2>That?</v>

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But we can, we can. No, we're gonna save that for Thursday.

450
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Let's, let's finish up Daytona.

451
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Um, so a that, that was probably very needed for,

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for all of faf, you know, Daytona mm-hmm .

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Um, has not been kind as you mentioned,

454
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has not been kind to them recently.

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They've been through a lot of uncertainty about the future

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and whether or not they're even gonna be racing

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and switching manufacturers and all of this sort of thing.

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So, um, I'm sure in the middle

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of the race when this was happening, it was just like

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probably, uh, a pretty solemn attitude and,

461
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, to deja all over again</v>
<v Speaker 2>Right.</v>

462
00:19:34.065 --> 00:19:37.655
To, to come out the other side of that with success,

463
00:19:37.855 --> 00:19:38.975
I would call that, um,

464
00:19:39.245 --> 00:19:40.775
must have been a good feeling for everyone.

465
00:19:40.875 --> 00:19:42.255
So good job, James.

466
00:19:43.355 --> 00:19:47.375
Um, the rest of the race was honestly,

467
00:19:47.635 --> 00:19:49.415
uh, pretty boring.

468
00:19:49.875 --> 00:19:52.295
Um, was it in the top class?

469
00:19:52.715 --> 00:19:55.575
Uh, the, the Porsche Penskes had the field covered.

470
00:19:56.435 --> 00:19:58.975
Um, really the, the whole race.

471
00:19:59.395 --> 00:20:04.255
Um, I would say the 31 car had a incredible comeback,

472
00:20:04.995 --> 00:20:09.895
um, because they, uh, had to give, had to do a drive

473
00:20:09.895 --> 00:20:14.535
through plus a 62nd stop after the, the massive fog caution

474
00:20:15.525 --> 00:20:18.215
because before the fog caution, um,

475
00:20:18.395 --> 00:20:19.655
or rather during it,

476
00:20:19.655 --> 00:20:22.095
they left pit lane when the light was red.

477
00:20:23.035 --> 00:20:25.135
Oh, no way. And they couldn't serve, they couldn't serve

478
00:20:25.135 --> 00:20:27.415
that penalty until it went back to green.

479
00:20:27.955 --> 00:20:32.695
<v Speaker 1>Oh, damn.</v>
<v Speaker 2>And so they went a lap down</v>

480
00:20:33.285 --> 00:20:36.695
with, I mean, time left, but only like, what was it?

481
00:20:36.695 --> 00:20:37.775
Five hours remaining.

482
00:20:37.775 --> 00:20:40.015
Five and a half hours remaining when it finally went green.

483
00:20:40.155 --> 00:20:42.495
So the fact that they got their lap back

484
00:20:42.635 --> 00:20:43.775
and drove through the field

485
00:20:44.115 --> 00:20:48.665
and almost, um, beat the seven car was a cool fight

486
00:20:48.665 --> 00:20:50.865
to watch, even though they, they came up short.

487
00:20:51.165 --> 00:20:55.945
Um, LMP two is always a super interesting class being

488
00:20:55.965 --> 00:20:57.545
as though it's, it's all spec.

489
00:20:58.165 --> 00:21:01.385
Um, Christian Rasmussen was on for

490
00:21:02.055 --> 00:21:05.185
another good looking result, it would seem heading

491
00:21:05.245 --> 00:21:06.345
for a second Rolex.

492
00:21:06.345 --> 00:21:09.425
And they got a puncture from the lead. Um, bummer.

493
00:21:09.425 --> 00:21:11.945
Which, which kind of took them out of it, which was, I mean,

494
00:21:11.945 --> 00:21:13.985
that's the second time in two years

495
00:21:13.985 --> 00:21:16.505
where they've had a failure of some sort from the lead.

496
00:21:17.125 --> 00:21:18.585
So that team, oh man.

497
00:21:18.585 --> 00:21:21.145
And that driver lineup is, is pretty legit. Let's see.

498
00:21:21.345 --> 00:21:23.185
L uh, it was cool story for LMP two

499
00:21:23.185 --> 00:21:26.825
because the, uh, CrowdStrike car and team finally won

500
00:21:26.825 --> 00:21:28.105
after all of that investment

501
00:21:28.245 --> 00:21:30.225
and everything that they have done, um,

502
00:21:30.695 --> 00:21:32.945
with the gentleman driver kind of running that program.

503
00:21:33.165 --> 00:21:34.905
So that's, that was a neat story.

504
00:21:35.405 --> 00:21:38.345
Gt D Pro, you obviously talked about your race.

505
00:21:38.685 --> 00:21:42.265
Um, it wasn't really a, a huge battle at the front.

506
00:21:43.245 --> 00:21:45.505
Um, yeah. But nonetheless, will power finished second.

507
00:21:46.185 --> 00:21:48.435
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I say the BM BMW won, which was funny</v>

508
00:21:48.435 --> 00:21:52.035
because like it was kind of nowhere all, all month.

509
00:21:52.435 --> 00:21:53.435
I say all month. 'cause

510
00:21:53.435 --> 00:21:54.235
I feel like we were there for a month.

511
00:21:54.235 --> 00:21:56.155
It feels very in Ds doing that race now.

512
00:21:56.575 --> 00:21:59.435
Um, but everybody was talking about the speed of the Astons

513
00:21:59.435 --> 00:22:01.795
and the speed of the Mercks and the speed of the Fords

514
00:22:01.795 --> 00:22:02.995
and the Corvettes and,

515
00:22:03.295 --> 00:22:04.555
and then it was kind of everybody else.

516
00:22:04.775 --> 00:22:06.035
And BM BMW was lumped in

517
00:22:06.035 --> 00:22:07.675
that they had one car qualify really well

518
00:22:07.675 --> 00:22:09.835
and then at the end of the race their pace was just insane.

519
00:22:09.975 --> 00:22:11.915
So they played that one very well.

520
00:22:11.915 --> 00:22:13.795
Strategically, uh, credit to them.

521
00:22:13.815 --> 00:22:15.995
But yeah, power, like, yeah,

522
00:22:16.335 --> 00:22:18.195
had a little volume kn they cranked up at the end there.

523
00:22:18.375 --> 00:22:20.715
Mm-hmm. Hmm. . But yeah, power's car did a great job too,

524
00:22:21.055 --> 00:22:24.595
um, with Mo and, uh, Kenny HaBO

525
00:22:25.175 --> 00:22:26.555
and uh,

526
00:22:27.735 --> 00:22:29.515
<v Speaker 2>Uh,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Marrow Engel.</v>

527
00:22:30.295 --> 00:22:33.435
Um, thought he was gonna be on it for, uh,

528
00:22:33.495 --> 00:22:34.755
for a minute for a win.

529
00:22:35.165 --> 00:22:36.315
Nolan Siegel did a great job.

530
00:22:36.735 --> 00:22:39.595
Uh, his team ran strong for most of the race as well.

531
00:22:40.875 --> 00:22:43.235
Ericsson and Kirkwood, uh, kind

532
00:22:43.235 --> 00:22:44.835
of had I think similar days to me.

533
00:22:45.215 --> 00:22:48.635
Um, not at a ton of pace. Erickson was in the Lambo as well.

534
00:22:48.635 --> 00:22:49.995
Worse. Worse, yeah. Worse. And then,

535
00:22:50.015 --> 00:22:51.275
and then Kirkwood was in Lexus.

536
00:22:51.935 --> 00:22:53.515
Uh, they were struggling for Pace as well,

537
00:22:53.775 --> 00:22:55.235
but it's what it's, that's

538
00:22:55.235 --> 00:22:56.395
<v Speaker 2>Cindy,</v>
<v Speaker 1>That's the, that's the,</v>

539
00:22:56.695 --> 00:23:00.435
<v Speaker 2>The last, the last storyline was, uh, in GTD, um,</v>

540
00:23:00.505 --> 00:23:03.235
Scottie Mack was, was doing Scottie Mack things.

541
00:23:03.815 --> 00:23:06.635
Um, and they were looking very good, uh,

542
00:23:06.745 --> 00:23:07.875
with a couple hours to go.

543
00:23:08.375 --> 00:23:11.555
And the gearbox radiator got a puncture, so they,

544
00:23:12.445 --> 00:23:14.105
uh, finished DFL.

545
00:23:15.085 --> 00:23:18.145
So, uh, as we, as we all know,

546
00:23:18.415 --> 00:23:20.145
that event is brutal.

547
00:23:20.685 --> 00:23:25.665
Um, y once again, I, I didn't, I didn't miss it,

548
00:23:25.665 --> 00:23:27.545
especially when I woke up at 4:00 AM

549
00:23:27.545 --> 00:23:28.665
and I saw your fog yellow.

550
00:23:28.825 --> 00:23:31.145
I I did chuckle to myself, uh, for a little bit.

551
00:23:31.245 --> 00:23:33.065
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did. Um,</v>

552
00:23:33.605 --> 00:23:36.865
<v Speaker 2>And I sat on my couch, uh, with a nice coffee</v>

553
00:23:37.285 --> 00:23:38.625
and some sweats on and,

554
00:23:38.625 --> 00:23:40.545
and watched the finish in front of the fire. So,

555
00:23:41.335 --> 00:23:43.745
<v Speaker 1>Well,</v>
<v Speaker 2>Pretty good way of doing it, James.</v>

556
00:23:44.295 --> 00:23:47.045
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. It's the second best way to do it. I agree.</v>

557
00:23:47.705 --> 00:23:49.845
Um, here's the thing though.

558
00:23:50.195 --> 00:23:51.765
It's, it's now race season guys.

559
00:23:51.835 --> 00:23:54.765
It's officially started, like no more sitting around.

560
00:23:55.195 --> 00:23:57.885
It's, it's here. Rolex has happened.

561
00:23:58.755 --> 00:24:00.245
Daytona five hundred's coming up.

562
00:24:00.685 --> 00:24:02.885
F one's testing on track as we speak.

563
00:24:03.875 --> 00:24:06.325
IndyCar, you know, not too far down the road.

564
00:24:06.985 --> 00:24:08.085
Um, you know, we're,

565
00:24:08.085 --> 00:24:10.205
we're a month away from the first IndyCar race.

566
00:24:10.865 --> 00:24:12.605
It is now. Like, that's why I always love Rolex.

567
00:24:12.765 --> 00:24:14.965
'cause it is like the unofficial kickoff to the, uh,

568
00:24:15.585 --> 00:24:17.485
the international racing scene.

569
00:24:17.525 --> 00:24:18.565
I know we already had Chili Bowl,

570
00:24:18.585 --> 00:24:22.045
but from the international side, this is, uh, this is it.

571
00:24:22.345 --> 00:24:27.005
And Ben has come back to give his final thoughts on, uh,

572
00:24:27.065 --> 00:24:28.885
his, his first Rolex 24.

573
00:24:34.935 --> 00:24:37.345
Nope, he doesn't wanna comment. That's no comment from Ben.

574
00:24:37.765 --> 00:24:40.985
Um, clearly not a Porsche fan. Uh,

575
00:24:41.705 --> 00:24:43.105
<v Speaker 2>I think that was the comment, James.</v>

576
00:24:43.335 --> 00:24:46.105
That was his, that was his opinion being registered.

577
00:24:46.625 --> 00:24:47.625
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a, we</v>

578
00:24:47.725 --> 00:24:50.185
<v Speaker 2>We have to, we have to give a shout out to,</v>

579
00:24:51.525 --> 00:24:53.145
to Porsche and to Penske.

580
00:24:53.145 --> 00:24:55.785
Yeah. Three years on the trot. Three in a row is tough.

581
00:24:55.965 --> 00:25:00.825
Is well, especially the same car. I mean the seven car.

582
00:25:00.855 --> 00:25:04.545
That is incredible. Um, I was a part of the seven car,

583
00:25:05.485 --> 00:25:08.185
and let me tell you, we did not win three in a

584
00:25:08.185 --> 00:25:09.185
row.
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

585
00:25:09.925 --> 00:25:11.865
<v Speaker 2>We didn't win zero in a row. Mm.</v>

586
00:25:12.045 --> 00:25:13.745
<v Speaker 1>So, well, no, you did win zero in a row.</v>

587
00:25:14.965 --> 00:25:17.745
<v Speaker 2>We won zero in a row. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah,</v>

588
00:25:18.455 --> 00:25:19.455
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

589
00:25:19.525 --> 00:25:22.025
Um, yeah, no, I mean, look, any, any

590
00:25:22.125 --> 00:25:26.985
of these Hallmark races, Daytona 24, Daytona 500, Indy 500,

591
00:25:27.165 --> 00:25:31.225
any of those things, Lamar it's, uh, it's difficult to win.

592
00:25:31.735 --> 00:25:33.785
It's difficult to go back to back

593
00:25:33.845 --> 00:25:35.825
and it's nearly impossible to do three in a row,

594
00:25:37.085 --> 00:25:39.545
um, as we've seen.

595
00:25:39.805 --> 00:25:43.905
But credit to them, uh, like you say, very impressive feat.

596
00:25:44.285 --> 00:25:46.265
Uh, congrats to all the class winners

597
00:25:46.725 --> 00:25:48.265
and good job by all the teams

598
00:25:48.645 --> 00:25:50.265
and everybody that slugged it out.

599
00:25:50.285 --> 00:25:52.465
All the fans record attendance for the race.

600
00:25:52.965 --> 00:25:55.545
So credit to AMSA and, and John Dunan

601
00:25:55.545 --> 00:25:58.145
and Daytona International Speedway for, uh,

602
00:25:58.815 --> 00:25:59.865
another great event.

603
00:26:00.045 --> 00:26:01.905
And like I said, unofficial start of the season.

604
00:26:02.575 --> 00:26:04.425
Here we go, buddy. Let's hear it. Let's stay

605
00:26:04.425 --> 00:26:05.425
<v Speaker 2>Tuned.</v>

606
00:26:05.425 --> 00:26:08.025
Tuned for next or Thursday,

607
00:26:08.025 --> 00:26:09.265
because we are going to talk

608
00:26:09.265 --> 00:26:10.545
about my favorite day of the year.

609
00:26:10.685 --> 00:26:12.785
Mm-hmm . Content Day. Mm-hmm.

610
00:26:12.785 --> 00:26:14.465
We're gonna talk about some lawsuits.

611
00:26:14.675 --> 00:26:17.945
We're gonna talk about some IndyCar news about teams that,

612
00:26:18.205 --> 00:26:20.745
uh, or cars that won't be showing up.

613
00:26:21.165 --> 00:26:23.465
And we are going to talk about something else

614
00:26:23.695 --> 00:26:24.705
that I just forgot.

615
00:26:25.215 --> 00:26:27.305
<v Speaker 1>ECRs Engineering, restructuring some F1</v>

616
00:26:27.305 --> 00:26:28.385
cars on track for testing.

617
00:26:28.445 --> 00:26:29.745
Mm-hmm . And, uh,

618
00:26:29.745 --> 00:26:31.985
and yeah, we're gonna get to the, uh, Nashville Recap.

619
00:26:32.765 --> 00:26:36.465
Mm-hmm . This has been off track with Hinch

620
00:26:36.465 --> 00:26:37.985
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621
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