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This is off track. Hello.
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Lets hurry this up. I feel like we
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were just here. Do places to be
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Things. Let's go, things
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To, to make happen.
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Um, all right, well let's talk.
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So Alex, you were on a race trail.
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We're just gonna get right into it. We're just gonna go
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actually into Hammer racing right off the bat. You
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Guys were Yeah.
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You both were in race cars.
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Wait, what? Yeah. Oh yeah. I forget. We even talked
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James then because you were the,
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So Okay. I was worst.
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I love that you for forgot. Yeah, the first one.
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I love that you've already forgotten
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that you were in a race car this weekend, .
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Well, well, when he explains to what happened,
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you'll understand why I wanted to forget it.
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No. So, yeah, so pet lama guys, the MTA season came
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to a close, uh, congratulations.
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That's for Little Lama.
Little Lama in French.
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Smaller one. Yeah. Pet lema.
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Um, and yes, back with the faf, uh, crew for that race.
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Always fun getting back behind the wheel, especially
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with those guys, uh, in our Lambo Huan.
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Is it just 'cause it's Canadian or
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It's a big part of it, yeah.
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're good dudes, right?
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But like, oh, of course. But like, just Right.
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A lot of race teams are good dudes,
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but like, they're good dudes from back home.
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And then like, it's a nice little, you know,
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it's like when you get together with
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your, your people, you sound
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The same and you wear stupid hats.
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Wow. Our hats are fine. I think our hats are normal.
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Um, there's maybe a little more plaid, you know,
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patterns on, on our hat.
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Doesn't matter either way. Uh, great group.
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Love, love working with them, love driving the car.
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Um, you know, but I hadn't been in the car since all,
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well, we'll get to that.
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We'll get to that . It's better sometimes than others.
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So, , so we, you know, I haven't driven the car since,
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um, uh, Sebring in March.
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March, yeah. It was a long time ago.
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And so we, and I, I went through this last year with, uh,
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with the McLaren, but it's just a long time.
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It's a long time to be outta the race car.
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And, you know, my teammates are great.
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They kind of walked me through all the buttons again
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and made sure I knew all the things I needed to know.
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Some things had sort of changed and evolved over the year.
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Um, but we, you know, went out for the first session
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and felt like really good, felt nicely up to speed,
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and had done a little bit of like,
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sessions on iRacing in whatever the closest thing to
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that version of the Lambo is.
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And it still amazes me how accurate that is, honestly.
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Like, it really does help you kind of get out there
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and feel like you kind of know roughly where to break,
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get on power, what it's gonna do in certain places.
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Anyway, first session went pretty well.
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Pace was kind of where we expected it to be.
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And then, uh, second session, same kind of thing.
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Like I was just, you know, my,
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my session wasn't the cleanest,
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but whatever we're kind
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of just trucking along night practice.
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We had a electrical issue, which was a huge bummer
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because, you know, everybody wanted laps in, in nighttime.
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And only one of us got that.
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Uh, and it was actually caused by like, the IMSA
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mandated sensors and boxes
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and stuff attached to the torque sensor.
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So that was kind of an extra kick in the nuts.
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'cause like, it wasn't a Lambo issue,
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it wasn't a team issue, it was actually an IMSA
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issue, so whatever.
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So we lost an hour running there
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and it's like, all right, that's it.
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Like, that's, that's it. That's all the practice you get.
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So now it's, that's to qualify.
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And then you go into the race. Qualifying works better when
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everything that, that was taken apart the night
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before to fix is put back together properly.
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And we had a slight issue. Why?
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So it's, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a puzzle, Tim.
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And if you have a, a piece
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that's like not in the right place,
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the puzzle doesn't look exactly right.
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And there was a, uh, a software mishap
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that meant the car didn't really run in practice,
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so, or sorry, in qualifying.
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So I qualified last. But look, 10 hour race lock can happen,
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especially at Road Atlanta.
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Fine. So, uh, get in the car second.
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Have a couple really good stints just trying to like,
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keep up with the pack and stayed with the lead group.
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And we didn't have the best BOP,
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so we weren't really making a lot
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of progress through the field.
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But at that phase of the race, it's, you know, stay in touch
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with the leaders, stay in the lead lap,
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keep the car clean, whatever.
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It felt really good. Actually, it felt like my second stint
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there felt like really solid Peca knew what I was doing.
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It was fun. Good race with the Mustangs. Um, it was fun.
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Just a good, it was like, why you go racing?
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I like got outta the car. Like, man, that was good time.
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I can't wait to get back in . Well,
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so we then had some issues.
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We then had some mechanical problems
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and we had to go behind the wall
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and we went a bunch of laps down, which sucks.
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So we're outta contention now.
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But, um, you know, we're still trying to finish the race.
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So I get in for the last two hours to finish the thing off
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and I get in the car.
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And the first few lap, it was a,
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it was a kind of a weird stop.
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I don't know if it was like a bit of a short fill
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or if we were just a bit slow on the driver change,
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which definitely could have been possible
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because I didn't do very much driver change practice.
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And I just, I left with all my belts loose. Right.
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Which Alex, as you know, is not fun. It's not fun.
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And so I'm like trying to get all my belts situated
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and the Hans device is a pain in the ass
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to get the shoulder belts over
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and the lap belt, you know, tightening the lap belts was,
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and you're driving now at night.
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So the lap is like, as you know, so sketchy, right?
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Tires are cold. It's night's just headlights
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flying by everywhere.
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And you're trying to like one-handed drive and,
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and do up your seat belts.
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Well, it was taking a minute, it was taking me a second.
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'cause like, I'm on the straight and I'm trying to like,
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literally drive with my knees and get my belt situated
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and there's prototypes flying by.
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And so you're trying to, and so it took me like four laps.
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'cause at one point the shoulder belt fell off the Hans.
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And I'm just like, I'm not, I'm not gonna crash this thing
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with my belts not done, right?
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We're 20 laps down. Like, what?
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We're not, what are we doing here?
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So I'm like, I'm taking my time.
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So my lap times aren't awesome in those first few laps.
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'cause I'm like, I don't wanna crash. And the
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car was a little sketchy.
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So I was like, okay, I got my belt sorted.
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I think I'm good now. And car still wasn't great.
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Lap times were still not awesome.
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And I was like, man, I'm pushing.
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But this thing's like, it's a bad,
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It's a bad feeling when you're all sorted and everything.
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You're like, all right, now it's the time
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To go.
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You go like, yeah, now let's, now let's laid down.
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You're like, oh no, . Yeah. I'm like, huh. Hmm.
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Like, I was right on the pace the last time I was in this
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car not that long ago.
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And so you start having this like, drivers are so dumb,
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you start having this like complete like crisis of faith.
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And I'm like, oh, I, I just don't know how to drive anymore.
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I, I'm done. I'm over it.
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And I, uh,
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or maybe it's just I can't drive at night,
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which means I'm useless as an endurance racer.
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And all these things start going through your head.
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And I'm like, I don't know guys.
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The car's just not, I don't,
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I don't talk on the radio much in that car.
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And I wasn't saying a lot.
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They were kind of probably just sitting on the
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timing stand looking at my left.
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And I was being like, what is this guy doing?
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Why did we put him in the car? Yeah.
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And, and so at one point
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I was like, guys, I'm not gonna lie.
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Like if there's something we can do with tire pressures,
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maybe, but like, we are really struggling.
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The thing is so loose on entry
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and so much under zero on exit.
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It's like it's trying to kill me in all the right handers
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and I don't know what's going on.
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So we come in for a pit stop and we had a clutch issue,
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and then we had an ab BS failure and all these things.
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And so with about 30 minutes to go in the race,
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the a BS system, the bed,
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and you just can't drive those things without that.
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And so it was like, okay, we're, we're not,
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we're not making any progress at this point.
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Let's not risk the car. Let's just come in.
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And as the team was trying to diagnose the a BS issue, one
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of the mechanics came up to me
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and he was like, Hey, I, uh, figured out why the car wasn't,
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you know, very, it didn't have a lot
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of grip sliding around a lot.
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I was like, oh yeah, why is that? And he brings me around
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and shows me the leaking oil tank
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that is just spewing oil onto the left rear tire.
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Why is that? That And so, well,
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all the right handers were very loose on entry.
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Alex, uh, oil is not a grippy substance.
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And so for, yeah, the last hour and 20 minutes
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or whatever, I was in the car, the thing was just leaking
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oil and I had oil pressure alarms going off.
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The team's like, no, it's fine. Just keep going.
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And um, yeah, so we were,
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we were making our own lives a little bit more difficult.
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But you feel a lot better
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as a driver when you have a, a stint like that.
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And then there's like a very
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clear identifiable reason. Yeah. It's
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Way worse when they're like,
Looks fine, car's fine.
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Yeah. so sad way to end the season.
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That was a tough year for the number nine car,
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um, all season long.
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But, uh, they got a new car coming for next year.
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Lambos got a new Terio GT three coming
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out, which is exciting.
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Um, so yeah, uh, figuring out what my program is
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with those guys for next year still,
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but, um, was, yeah, it was a bummer.
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It's always nice to drive. I do miss it.
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It makes me wanna do it more every time I do it.
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Um, but yeah, schedules are tough.
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So anyway, that was my, that was my road Atlanta
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experience thanks to all those guys.
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What's that? Small ma, small ma.
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Big thanks to all the faf guys
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for all the hard work over the year to Canadian Tire
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and Moto Master and Lithia and Driveway
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and all the partners and et cetera, et cetera.
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Keep going. Yeah, I think, I think CSN collision centers,
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if we're gonna be, you know, um, yeah.
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So that was my time in a race car, which is always good.
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Alex got the opportunity to get back into his Indy car
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at IMS Road course with a few other people.
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So let's talk about your day
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and then we'll talk about the day in totality.
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Hmm. Um, well, James,
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have you seen pictures from IMS as of late, like
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some really cool pictures
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of like a hole in the track and like Yes.
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Different layers of Yes.
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Asphalt and original brick and all that sort of thing.
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Amazing by the way that, that's super cool.
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Super cool. Incredible. Um,
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Where are we going with this?
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I still don't really know why they're doing that.
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Um, I guess it's to try
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and get rid of the bump in turn two at the speedway, which
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in a way is interesting, but also like, I hope they don't,
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'cause that's kind of what makes it so hard. Um,
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Would you say the bump had gotten worse this year?
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No. Or in the last No. No.
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It's kind of how it's been at all.
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Yeah. But I mean, turn two's the hardest for a reason.
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Mm-hmm . Um, and it would be a shame if it became not hard
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just because it's, it's the challenge of the lap, right?
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So, anyways, uh, that I digress.
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Um, when they did that, there's a lot of, there's a lot of
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wiring and such underneath racetracks.
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Um, and so they ah,
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they messed something up, right?
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And so there was no
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Timing and scoring was not
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Timing and scoring got it in the morning.
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And then there was only timing
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and scoring for the rest of the day on like every
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either second lap or third lap.
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Sometimes every second and third lap,
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but not your fourth lap.
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Got it. But definitely your fifth lap
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Super.
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The fifth it was the fifth,
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But then if it wasn't your third lap,
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then it would come on the fourth lap.
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Right. So yeah, it was, it was,
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it was kind of weird temperamental.
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Um, so, so in, in the morning a lot of cars sat
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because we only had four sets of tires.
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And it wasn't really for timing
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and scoring per se, it was more for like,
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we weren't getting lap times on the car,
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which means you're not getting data That's kind of correct.
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Which, so you, yes.
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Sorry, let me go ahead. Can I just interject please?
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Like if you go to a private test at Yes. Sebring, right?
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Sure. Mm-hmm . The team set up their own beacons, right?
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And you do your own timing essentially. Yes.
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With this problem, obviously with the, you know,
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you're at a mass, you're at a real track,
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it has timing and scoring loops mm-hmm .
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But if there's an issue mm-hmm .
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Can a team not just like chuck up their own beacon
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and let everybody use that to get going.
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So yes, but unclear as to why that was.
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Um, there was some resistance to that.
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So the way Indy car, so,
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So that idea was, was floated
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The way IndyCar open tests work is that they're
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usually a team rents a track
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and then they are required
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to invite all of their teams to come.
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And it's up to those
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invited teams that they wanna come or not.
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And they share the cost and all this sort of thing.
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But if a team rents a track,
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they can't just have it exclusively for themselves
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without offering it to others.
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So the team that rented the track, I'm not gonna say
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who it is 'cause it doesn't matter.
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Um, didn't want to go down that road for what,
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I don't know reason, but that,
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that was their reason and it was their track.
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And, and so that's where we were.
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We did get there at some point in the afternoon, um,
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because it wasn't getting resolved
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and even them were not able to acquire sufficient lap time
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and data and information and all that sort of thing.
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So that did progress post lunch.
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But in the morning that was, that was not not happening.
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So in a test like this, um,
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especially on the ECR side, you know, we were running a lot
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of extra sensors, not only for us,
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but for Chevrolet as well.
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And you need, you need timelines in order
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to have complete data sets.
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Otherwise the lab is just this long outing
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and then you're cutting things continuous.
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Yeah. It's very hard to overlay and compare.
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Oh, like is this really better than what it was in May?
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Right. Um, versus what it is now.
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So my point is, we, we didn't, no one really did a lot
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of laps in the morning, which is actually okay
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because it was like 50 degrees and it was cold <inaudible>.
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So, um, it was a pretty slow morning.
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Uh, we got out there after lunch.
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Um, and the, the conditions improved quite a bit,
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a lot more representative of, of what they would be in May.
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And we were able to get through the entire list of things
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that we went in with, which is,
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which is quite an accomplishment.
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It's the first time I've ever done that in a test.
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'cause you , usually you go in with a list that's
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so astronomically long
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that it's like there's no chance to be fair.
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It's unreason reasonably long.
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It was like two pages and we got through it all,
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which was, which was pretty cool.
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A lot of it was, um, dictated by GM
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and, and some stuff that we're working on.
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Um, and then some, the, the rest of it was, um,
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we're starting to have new components kind of come online
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and it's not complete components,
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but kind of making sure that the, the stuff
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that is in production
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and in existence is working as it should
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and, um, is kind of behaving as, as we'd expect.
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So that was really good.
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Um, Christian unfortunately had a lot of issues on his car.
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He had a clutch problem, he had a brake system problem
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and only did like 30 laps in the afternoon.
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Um, yeah, so he didn't get through a lot,
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but still as a team we were able to,
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to get it all done, which was super cool.
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Um, the track was, was pretty slow.
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Um, even though we obviously you would expect it
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to be slower than qualifying
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because you're not on alternate tires and
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because engines from both sides are turned down and,
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and that sort of thing, it was still quite a ways off.
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Um, and I think that's just a representation
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of only six cars being on track and it yeah.
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Being fall and cold and, and that sort of thing.
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So, um, very positive day for us.
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We, like I said, we got through everything.
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We learned a lot. We actually, um, some of the things
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that we thought were really ambitious to,
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to be working this early, um, they all did.
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So that was pretty cool.
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Are you allowed Pretty cool to pretty neat.
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Pretty pretty neat.
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Are you allowed to, um, go into any sort of
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more depth on what kind of things you were working on?
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Or is that all G 14 classified top secret? Um,
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I'm not gonna talk about the stuff the team is working on.
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Um, from the GM side,
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I'm saying more on the GM side. Yeah,
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Yeah.
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We, uh, you know, there, there's no, there's no secret
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that there's, there's strengths, um,
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that the Chevy motor has over the Honda and, and vice versa.
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And for us, you know, we felt that one of our,
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our bigger shortcomings in terms of we were having
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to adjust the car a lot.
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Um, and,
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and honestly I felt this ever since switching manufacture
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camps, you have to adjust the car a lot more for the,
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the traction side of things, um, like corner exits
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and you have to make setup adjustments
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that like Honda cars aren't thinking about, right?
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So you're, you're a little bit more kept in a box on
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some of the stuff that you can do just
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because you have to think about, you know, the,
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the drivability and,
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and the the power down side of things. So
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This is like a pure traction kind of situation.
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Yeah. So for people at home, what sort
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of setup changes are you having to think of now
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with a Chevy in the back that maybe you weren't
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as a Honda? Like, are there,
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Chad Gpt is a cool thing.
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You can, you can hide that in there if you're really
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that curious and they'll spit out an answer for you.
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Um, but you know, for us we had kind
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of three tracks to choose from.
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It was Laguna, um, it was mid Ohio
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and it was NDGP laguna's tough this time
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of year just 'cause it's extra cold.
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Um, mid Ohio, we, the,
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the weather would've been great,
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but we didn't think there was enough traction
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events at mid Ohio.
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You know, you've got kind of the keyhole turn two,
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but other than that it's, especially with the repave,
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it's, it's pretty straightforward.
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Whereas NDGP, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot
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of corn slow corners that lead onto to big straits.
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And, um, a lot of combined, you know, there's a lot
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of lateral load in the car as you're trying
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to get the power down and that sort of thing.
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So really taxing the, the rear axle and,
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and the, the rear of the car.
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So we, we felt that even though we were pretty strong at
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NDGP in terms of like ECR and, and qualifying pace and,
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and that sort of thing, there was still, of the choices
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that we had, it was gonna be the most useful
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for really trying to dial in a street course to, we,
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we were looking to try
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and find a way to get as comparable as possible to
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traction events that you'd have a street course.
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Now I know that a permanent road course isn't
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one that you'd really think of.
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Smoothes Rack I would go to Yeah. ,
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But it is, it is very demanding on,
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on the rear tires, right.
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Um, in, in those phases.
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So that's kind of where we went with it.
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And um, yeah, like I said, it was,
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it was all super positive.
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So you were sharing the track with many other cars, most
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of which were, um, rookies or lights drivers?
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All but Christian, well,
Christian, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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So it was Christian. And then, so we had, uh, Lockie Hughes
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who obviously joined us on Tuesday's episode.
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Uh, you had Dennis Hauger in the coin car, uh,
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James Rowe was on track, and then Kyle Collette as well.
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Um, what was your kind of take, you know, a lot of,
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I know a bunch of those guys did some lapse it,
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I wanna say say it was mid Ohio a few weeks ago.
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There was a big test and, and I know Hauger
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and, and Colette were there. Certainly. I'm
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Forgetting Schumacher.
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Oh my, well, yeah, we'll we will get to, to Mick. Yeah.
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Um, from, from the lights kids, uh, did you like,
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what'd you think, did you, did you kind
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of come across any on track?
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Were you, were you paying attention to who was doing what?
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Did you see anything that stood
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out, good, bad, or indifferent?
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Not to call anybody out, but
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Yeah.
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No, not, not at all.
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There was no, there was not a single red flag, um,
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aside from one of the cars ran outta fuel,
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so no driver error.
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There was no spins.
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Um, there was no one that like,
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wasn't paying attention.
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And so like, if you came up on someone
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and they weren't on a good lap, but,
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or whatever, like they pulled over.
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So no, it felt like you were on track with
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the normal, the normal guys.
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Um, good. I, yeah, I, yeah.
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So I don't know what else
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to say other than they all performed great,
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All did what they should have.
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Yeah. Um, so then, yeah. Okay.
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So Mick Schumacher obviously making this big
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indie card test debut.
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Um, you know, we kind of had talked about
499
00:20:32.185 --> 00:20:33.725
how it's really best case scenario.
500
00:20:33.825 --> 00:20:35.125
Any guy that comes over from Europe
501
00:20:36.555 --> 00:20:38.405
that track seems to suit them.
502
00:20:38.475 --> 00:20:41.845
Well, RLL has historically had really good cars there,
503
00:20:42.545 --> 00:20:43.925
but, you know, Mick showed up
504
00:20:44.025 --> 00:20:45.485
and based on what I saw,
505
00:20:45.485 --> 00:20:48.365
I know the timings timing system wasn't working all day.
506
00:20:48.545 --> 00:20:51.485
So, and you never looked too much into to times at a test,
507
00:20:51.625 --> 00:20:54.045
but seemed to get along pretty well. Yeah,
508
00:20:54.325 --> 00:20:55.605
I, it's, it's really hard
509
00:20:55.675 --> 00:20:59.525
because the times that I saw
510
00:21:00.355 --> 00:21:03.005
published were not the times that accurate.
511
00:21:03.115 --> 00:21:06.325
Yeah. Well, no, I'm not saying that we weren't getting,
512
00:21:06.505 --> 00:21:08.525
we don't have this, there was two sets
513
00:21:08.525 --> 00:21:10.085
of times, like, so I, right.
514
00:21:10.125 --> 00:21:11.165
I have honestly no idea.
515
00:21:11.445 --> 00:21:14.645
I do know for sure that, that Dennis was quick all day, um,
516
00:21:15.015 --> 00:21:17.045
which shouldn't come as really any surprise.
517
00:21:17.705 --> 00:21:18.845
Um, and it was kind of him
518
00:21:18.845 --> 00:21:22.605
and I for, for what I could see for the most of the part,
519
00:21:22.715 --> 00:21:25.285
kind of every set of tires kind of going back and,
520
00:21:25.305 --> 00:21:28.325
and forth on each other, um, depending on just
521
00:21:28.325 --> 00:21:29.805
who ran a set first.
522
00:21:29.985 --> 00:21:32.005
So he was kind of the guy that, um,
523
00:21:32.225 --> 00:21:33.645
we were paying most attention to.
524
00:21:34.105 --> 00:21:38.925
Um, and then the other, there were some other weird out,
525
00:21:39.185 --> 00:21:40.205
not weird outliers,
526
00:21:40.205 --> 00:21:43.885
but like, we didn't see mix time that was published.
527
00:21:44.065 --> 00:21:45.365
But that doesn't mean it didn't exist.
528
00:21:45.595 --> 00:21:47.125
Like, I'm not saying that he didn't do it.
529
00:21:47.355 --> 00:21:50.125
Like we just so very, very hard to say
530
00:21:50.355 --> 00:21:54.405
because of the reasons that I just explained.
531
00:21:54.715 --> 00:21:58.565
That being said, um, he looked good on track.
532
00:21:59.125 --> 00:22:02.445
I wouldn't expect him to not be on pace, as you said,
533
00:22:02.715 --> 00:22:04.525
like RLL cars are good there.
534
00:22:05.275 --> 00:22:09.365
He's a former F1 driver. He's been racing in prototypes.
535
00:22:09.785 --> 00:22:12.605
Um, so like, yeah, he, he was gonna be fast and,
536
00:22:12.605 --> 00:22:14.005
and I didn't expect anything less.
537
00:22:14.705 --> 00:22:16.845
And it seemed that he really enjoyed it.
538
00:22:16.945 --> 00:22:21.165
So, um, one of our very good friends, uh, Brian Simpson,
539
00:22:21.585 --> 00:22:25.045
who is also working with RLL on some
540
00:22:25.045 --> 00:22:26.125
of their content creation
541
00:22:26.125 --> 00:22:30.645
and stuff, um, kind of said that, that he was like happy
542
00:22:30.705 --> 00:22:33.245
and smiling all day and, and talked to some of his people.
543
00:22:33.385 --> 00:22:34.685
And, and the feedback was nothing
544
00:22:34.685 --> 00:22:35.965
short of like, this is awesome.
545
00:22:36.585 --> 00:22:40.405
And, and you know, really hope that, um, you know,
546
00:22:40.595 --> 00:22:42.445
something, something can come together.
547
00:22:42.445 --> 00:22:44.325
And, and, and he said so much, uh,
548
00:22:44.465 --> 00:22:45.845
to Marshall Pruitt as well.
549
00:22:46.145 --> 00:22:49.285
So I think this wasn't just a, uh,
550
00:22:50.325 --> 00:22:51.525
a press a PR move.
551
00:22:51.525 --> 00:22:52.885
It was a PR stunt. Yeah. By, by Ray Hall.
552
00:22:53.385 --> 00:22:56.005
Um, you know, they were both evaluating each other
553
00:22:56.585 --> 00:22:59.045
and Mick was evaluating the team as much
554
00:22:59.045 --> 00:23:00.325
as the team was evaluating him.
555
00:23:00.325 --> 00:23:03.205
And it seemed that everyone ended there very happy.
556
00:23:03.745 --> 00:23:07.365
So I don't know, that could be a, a pretty big get for,
557
00:23:07.425 --> 00:23:09.925
for the championship if it, if it were to, to happen.
558
00:23:10.535 --> 00:23:13.845
Watch this space. Yeah. Be, uh, it would be interesting.
559
00:23:13.905 --> 00:23:15.405
It was cool to kind of, you know, here's,
560
00:23:15.405 --> 00:23:16.525
here's comments afterwards
561
00:23:16.545 --> 00:23:19.405
and hear him talk about how, you know, he had, he had talked
562
00:23:19.405 --> 00:23:20.845
to a lot of the guys that had come over
563
00:23:20.985 --> 00:23:22.405
and everyone
564
00:23:22.405 --> 00:23:25.085
that's come over only has good things to say about it.
565
00:23:25.085 --> 00:23:27.005
Right. Like, you never hear stories of someone
566
00:23:27.005 --> 00:23:29.885
that's come over from Europe or come over from Australia
567
00:23:29.985 --> 00:23:33.885
or come up from South America, whatever, and get to IndyCar
568
00:23:33.985 --> 00:23:37.365
and say, yeah, you know, like, I, I'd rather go back.
569
00:23:37.465 --> 00:23:39.085
You know this. Yeah. It's, it's okay.
570
00:23:39.115 --> 00:23:40.285
It's not like everyone
571
00:23:40.285 --> 00:23:42.965
that comes here from like a pure driving, pure racing,
572
00:23:43.355 --> 00:23:47.365
pure culture standpoint, it just seems to be the place that
573
00:23:48.525 --> 00:23:49.655
kind of makes everybody happy.
574
00:23:49.655 --> 00:23:51.615
Like, not to say it, you can't be happy elsewhere,
575
00:23:51.915 --> 00:23:53.975
but like, no, nobody that comes here is disappointed
576
00:23:53.975 --> 00:23:54.975
with the, with the, the,
577
00:23:55.515 --> 00:23:58.215
You re fall in love with, with racing all over again.
578
00:23:58.355 --> 00:24:02.575
You know, it's Europe and, and European Motorsports
579
00:24:02.575 --> 00:24:05.735
and Formula One, and even the highest level of WEC
580
00:24:05.735 --> 00:24:07.095
and everything, like, it's, it's awesome.
581
00:24:07.645 --> 00:24:09.615
Like the cars are sick, the events are sick,
582
00:24:09.635 --> 00:24:11.535
the tracks are sick, I get it.
583
00:24:12.665 --> 00:24:13.935
Everything else isn't.
584
00:24:14.515 --> 00:24:16.175
And so you come to IndyCar
585
00:24:16.175 --> 00:24:19.255
and even though the car's 37 years old,
586
00:24:19.515 --> 00:24:21.375
and as Locke said, like, it's not 8 million
587
00:24:21.435 --> 00:24:24.455
Pounds,
It's not that impressive in terms
588
00:24:24.455 --> 00:24:25.615
of like the change of direction
589
00:24:25.635 --> 00:24:28.975
and the top speed you get into the car and,
590
00:24:28.975 --> 00:24:31.175
and the environment and especially the races.
591
00:24:31.175 --> 00:24:32.615
And you're like, this is, this is awesome.
592
00:24:32.725 --> 00:24:36.055
This is what I fell in love with when I was 10 years old.
593
00:24:39.525 --> 00:24:43.535
Yeah. I'm pumped for, for everyone at, in that group
594
00:24:43.645 --> 00:24:47.535
because it would be, um, it'd be a big thing for the series.
595
00:24:47.535 --> 00:24:51.095
Yeah. And it, and it's just a, a further testament to, to
596
00:24:51.115 --> 00:24:55.215
how much IndyCar is, is growing on people's radars, um,
597
00:24:55.715 --> 00:24:56.735
across the pond as well.
598
00:24:56.735 --> 00:24:58.775
And, and that, and one thing that I'll I'll say on
599
00:24:59.015 --> 00:25:01.695
that topic is, you know, I saw a quote from Mick,
600
00:25:02.035 --> 00:25:04.375
he was asked specifically about the ovals mm-hmm .
601
00:25:04.715 --> 00:25:08.215
And he was like, listen, do I have any experience? No.
602
00:25:08.315 --> 00:25:11.535
Do I have any, do I have reservations about it? Yes.
603
00:25:11.955 --> 00:25:13.975
But I'm not, if, if I were to do this,
604
00:25:14.095 --> 00:25:15.295
I wouldn't do something halfway.
605
00:25:15.645 --> 00:25:17.135
Like, if I'm gonna come over
606
00:25:17.135 --> 00:25:18.455
here, I'm gonna do a hundred percent.
607
00:25:18.515 --> 00:25:19.895
I'm gonna learn it. I'm gonna figure it out.
608
00:25:20.155 --> 00:25:21.455
And that's also a really cool approach.
609
00:25:21.695 --> 00:25:24.215
'cause I think that that's also a shift that started
610
00:25:24.275 --> 00:25:25.895
to happen is, you know,
611
00:25:26.255 --> 00:25:28.535
previously there was guys coming over from Europe, you know,
612
00:25:28.535 --> 00:25:30.935
in the early 2000 twelves
613
00:25:30.955 --> 00:25:32.695
and whatever, that were only gonna do road
614
00:25:32.695 --> 00:25:33.775
courses and street courses, right.
615
00:25:33.795 --> 00:25:35.695
And they just flat out refused to ovals.
616
00:25:35.715 --> 00:25:38.175
And, and now it seems that the more
617
00:25:38.175 --> 00:25:40.055
and more guys that have come over, it's like, yeah,
618
00:25:40.055 --> 00:25:42.335
it's gonna be hard, but yes, I'm gonna do it and,
619
00:25:42.355 --> 00:25:43.855
and I wanna compete for the championship.
620
00:25:44.315 --> 00:25:47.015
And, and, and I gotta think that what Rojan did was,
621
00:25:47.195 --> 00:25:48.815
was a big part of that, right?
622
00:25:48.815 --> 00:25:52.175
Because when you're, when you're young right,
623
00:25:52.315 --> 00:25:54.255
and you haven't had a tremendous amount of success
624
00:25:54.275 --> 00:25:56.535
or a tenure career at in Formula One
625
00:25:56.535 --> 00:26:00.205
or whatever, it's a lot easier to kind
626
00:26:00.205 --> 00:26:01.805
of swallow doing something
627
00:26:01.805 --> 00:26:03.885
that maybe you wouldn't do otherwise.
628
00:26:03.985 --> 00:26:05.645
Or you wasn't originally on your radar.
629
00:26:05.835 --> 00:26:07.405
Like, you're young and you want a career in
630
00:26:07.405 --> 00:26:08.525
racing and this is an opportunity.
631
00:26:08.525 --> 00:26:09.685
So you're like, yeah, let's, let's go.
632
00:26:11.035 --> 00:26:14.125
When you've had a tenure career in Formula One
633
00:26:14.825 --> 00:26:19.685
and your career in Formula One ended on off the back of one
634
00:26:19.685 --> 00:26:22.325
of the scariest accidents
635
00:26:22.325 --> 00:26:26.325
that we've seen in the last 20 years, maybe more
636
00:26:26.905 --> 00:26:29.245
in Formula One with Trojan's, you know,
637
00:26:29.375 --> 00:26:30.525
fiery wreck in Bahrain.
638
00:26:31.305 --> 00:26:35.945
His first crack at IndyCar was not to do ovals.
639
00:26:35.965 --> 00:26:37.945
And, and he had earned that, right?
640
00:26:38.165 --> 00:26:40.625
As someone that had been at the top level for 10 years
641
00:26:40.685 --> 00:26:43.325
and as someone that had had a bad, um, you know,
642
00:26:43.365 --> 00:26:46.445
a bad accident when danger's kind of the, the
643
00:26:47.005 --> 00:26:48.005
limiting factor or the
644
00:26:48.005 --> 00:26:49.845
concerning factor of going oval racing.
645
00:26:50.105 --> 00:26:52.645
And then he wasn't even done his first year in IndyCar yet,
646
00:26:52.645 --> 00:26:54.245
and he was like, nah, chuck me on the oval.
647
00:26:54.245 --> 00:26:56.565
Let's try this thing out. And loved it and now,
648
00:26:57.185 --> 00:26:57.965
And was good at it. Yeah.
649
00:26:58.145 --> 00:26:59.725
He was good at it, continued to do it.
650
00:26:59.745 --> 00:27:01.605
He is trying to come back into the series.
651
00:27:02.025 --> 00:27:04.755
So I think I, I would think,
652
00:27:05.215 --> 00:27:07.115
and if I was on the outside looking, if I was in
653
00:27:07.115 --> 00:27:09.355
that position, I would look at a guy like Roman who made
654
00:27:09.355 --> 00:27:11.955
that decision, made that call and has his opinion,
655
00:27:12.135 --> 00:27:13.115
Marcus. Right?
656
00:27:13.615 --> 00:27:14.875
For sure. For sure.
657
00:27:15.275 --> 00:27:16.315
I would say slightly different just
658
00:27:16.315 --> 00:27:17.995
because of the, the danger thing
659
00:27:17.995 --> 00:27:19.075
and what he had been through.
660
00:27:19.335 --> 00:27:21.715
But, um, I don't think Marcus ever
661
00:27:21.715 --> 00:27:22.875
really had a reservation, right?
662
00:27:22.875 --> 00:27:26.075
Like Marcus jumped in full season right away, whereas,
663
00:27:26.775 --> 00:27:28.395
you know, 'cause he grew up watching Kenny
664
00:27:28.405 --> 00:27:29.515
Brack, you know mm-hmm .
665
00:27:29.595 --> 00:27:31.235
Race IndyCar and win the 500.
666
00:27:31.415 --> 00:27:34.075
And, um, so yeah, I, it's cool to see,
667
00:27:34.075 --> 00:27:35.715
and I hope more drivers are, are willing
668
00:27:35.815 --> 00:27:37.475
and able to do it and get the opportunity.
669
00:27:38.615 --> 00:27:43.435
Um, some other news in the IndyCar Paddock is,
670
00:27:43.855 --> 00:27:47.515
you know, after Reus was announced to not be coming back
671
00:27:47.515 --> 00:27:49.635
to Foyt, which was kind of a weird way to announce that,
672
00:27:49.695 --> 00:27:53.955
or sorry to coin, um, he has announced he's going to JHR.
673
00:27:55.675 --> 00:27:57.015
Yes. Which is, uh,
674
00:27:58.345 --> 00:28:00.135
which I, I don't know, let's talk about it.
675
00:28:00.255 --> 00:28:02.655
I think it's is a little bit of a, of a surprise.
676
00:28:03.035 --> 00:28:06.975
Um, you know, I think that what Reus
677
00:28:07.475 --> 00:28:12.375
and Dale were able to do this past year, you know, we,
678
00:28:12.435 --> 00:28:14.695
we, we've talked about it a lot throughout the season, was,
679
00:28:15.395 --> 00:28:16.535
was very impressive.
680
00:28:17.315 --> 00:28:20.095
Um, you know, the onboarding of of Michael Cannon
681
00:28:20.915 --> 00:28:23.975
and, you know, bringing in someone of Reuss caliber
682
00:28:24.115 --> 00:28:27.735
and everything kind of restored Dale coin racing to, to kind
683
00:28:27.735 --> 00:28:29.175
of the good old days of like, you know,
684
00:28:29.175 --> 00:28:30.895
every once in a while when they get it right,
685
00:28:30.895 --> 00:28:32.015
they could be a serious threat.
686
00:28:32.675 --> 00:28:34.935
Um, not only to getting a top 10,
687
00:28:35.115 --> 00:28:36.695
but, you know, fighting for a podium,
688
00:28:36.745 --> 00:28:38.295
which he proved in Toronto.
689
00:28:38.635 --> 00:28:40.935
Um, he had several fast six appearances
690
00:28:41.755 --> 00:28:43.775
and was good kind of on, on a variety of tracks.
691
00:28:43.775 --> 00:28:45.975
Obviously ovals were, were a struggle for them, but
692
00:28:46.365 --> 00:28:48.535
nonetheless had a, had a phenomenal year,
693
00:28:48.975 --> 00:28:51.095
arguably a better year than he had had in quite some
694
00:28:51.095 --> 00:28:52.295
time at, at ECR.
695
00:28:53.235 --> 00:28:55.655
And so, you know, I had talked
696
00:28:55.655 --> 00:28:58.335
to him a little bit in Laguna, which is, you know,
697
00:28:58.335 --> 00:28:59.895
a little bit past the halfway point in the season.
698
00:28:59.995 --> 00:29:03.615
And he was really happy with the environment and,
699
00:29:03.615 --> 00:29:07.015
and everything that he had, obviously he was looking, um,
700
00:29:08.075 --> 00:29:11.735
to, to to, in his next deal, you know, make money.
701
00:29:12.275 --> 00:29:14.855
Um, because his all of us know fun to do.
702
00:29:14.915 --> 00:29:16.975
You don't want to do this for free forever.
703
00:29:17.755 --> 00:29:20.735
And you know, for him it was a necessary step in his career
704
00:29:20.915 --> 00:29:22.175
to continue racing.
705
00:29:22.315 --> 00:29:25.335
He had to not get paid in 2025, but based on his results
706
00:29:25.335 --> 00:29:29.835
and everything that he had done, he for sure was in,
707
00:29:30.895 --> 00:29:33.355
um, he had earned the right to, to make money again.
708
00:29:33.355 --> 00:29:37.765
And he wanted to do that. So there was a, a full
709
00:29:38.555 --> 00:29:43.325
expectation and program set up, uh, with him
710
00:29:43.465 --> 00:29:45.525
and, and Dale and Todd Alt and,
711
00:29:45.545 --> 00:29:47.285
and all these sort of things for 2026.
712
00:29:48.185 --> 00:29:51.525
Um, and there was a livery unveil
713
00:29:51.545 --> 00:29:54.125
and supposed to be a driver announcement on the Wednesday,
714
00:29:54.465 --> 00:29:56.845
or sorry, the Thursday going into the season finale in
715
00:29:56.845 --> 00:29:58.725
Nashville, down on Broadway and all this sort of thing.
716
00:29:59.985 --> 00:30:04.585
And delivery unveil happened,
717
00:30:04.925 --> 00:30:06.385
but a driver announcement didn't happen.
718
00:30:07.005 --> 00:30:09.225
And so obviously now we know that's
719
00:30:09.225 --> 00:30:10.785
because, um, you know,
720
00:30:11.085 --> 00:30:13.505
Readis was looking at other options and all this sort of thing.
721
00:30:13.585 --> 00:30:17.025
I guess my point is, do we see this as a step up?
722
00:30:18.005 --> 00:30:21.785
Um, because, you know, JHR yes, they're on paper,
723
00:30:22.305 --> 00:30:23.425
a better funded team.
724
00:30:24.205 --> 00:30:25.825
Um, they've got newer equipment,
725
00:30:26.335 --> 00:30:29.305
they probably have more people in terms of numbers of,
726
00:30:29.405 --> 00:30:32.465
of staff and the cars are probably
727
00:30:33.645 --> 00:30:35.895
prepped a little bit better and, and just
728
00:30:35.895 --> 00:30:38.295
because there's more resources available to them.
729
00:30:38.875 --> 00:30:40.375
But in terms of raw OnTrack
730
00:30:40.375 --> 00:30:42.015
performance, what do you think, James?
731
00:30:42.415 --> 00:30:45.415
I mean, does this seem like a, a lateral potential?
732
00:30:48.075 --> 00:30:50.235
I don't dunno. It's, look, if we're,
733
00:30:50.235 --> 00:30:52.915
if we're just looking at 20, 25 results
734
00:30:52.975 --> 00:30:57.275
as the most recent data available, they do not point
735
00:30:57.415 --> 00:30:59.115
to it being a step.
736
00:30:59.115 --> 00:31:00.155
But let's forward, let's,
737
00:31:00.155 --> 00:31:02.555
Let's take, let's even go a year back.
738
00:31:02.685 --> 00:31:06.195
Let's go to 2024 when you had Roma who we all know his
739
00:31:06.875 --> 00:31:08.675
pedigree and, and what he's accomplished
740
00:31:09.175 --> 00:31:12.435
and what he accomplished at DCR before the Andrati stint
741
00:31:12.455 --> 00:31:13.555
and, and all that sort of thing.
742
00:31:14.385 --> 00:31:16.275
Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't know,
743
00:31:16.865 --> 00:31:18.195
Like
That car was on the podium.
744
00:31:18.485 --> 00:31:20.035
Paolo had that car on the podium.
745
00:31:20.895 --> 00:31:25.795
Um, JHR has only
746
00:31:25.855 --> 00:31:28.315
one podium, I believe, and that was Connor's two years
747
00:31:28.315 --> 00:31:30.115
Ago in Milwaukee. Yep. So,
748
00:31:30.625 --> 00:31:32.315
Yeah, man, I don't, I'm with you.
749
00:31:32.555 --> 00:31:35.195
I, I'm, I'm a bit surprised. I'm a bit surprised.
750
00:31:35.375 --> 00:31:39.515
And look, if it's, if it's um, if it's to
751
00:31:40.215 --> 00:31:44.715
go make a living versus not making a living, you,
752
00:31:45.215 --> 00:31:48.115
you can't, you can't fault a guy that, I mean, it's insane.
753
00:31:48.145 --> 00:31:52.275
It's insane to me that there's any seats in indie car
754
00:31:53.065 --> 00:31:55.755
that would require a driver to not make a living like it,
755
00:31:55.825 --> 00:31:58.675
that just shouldn't exist at this level of the sport.
756
00:31:59.775 --> 00:32:02.275
So if the guy had to pay his bills, I get it.
757
00:32:02.335 --> 00:32:04.355
You most drivers would always take a,
758
00:32:04.415 --> 00:32:06.595
the more competitive car over a bit more money.
759
00:32:06.695 --> 00:32:08.755
But if the, if the bit more money is a difference
760
00:32:08.755 --> 00:32:10.875
between zero money and paying rent.
761
00:32:11.575 --> 00:32:15.195
Yes. I I understand where the surprise comes in is,
762
00:32:15.315 --> 00:32:16.475
I would be surprised if
763
00:32:16.475 --> 00:32:20.515
after his results in 25 that that Dale and, and,
764
00:32:20.575 --> 00:32:22.915
and the organization at DCR wasn't able
765
00:32:22.915 --> 00:32:26.355
to offer him something of some, you know, substance
766
00:32:26.355 --> 00:32:27.515
that would make him wanna stay.
767
00:32:28.095 --> 00:32:30.275
So it's a, it is an interesting move
768
00:32:30.655 --> 00:32:33.635
and, um, I haven't seen really any in-depth
769
00:32:33.635 --> 00:32:34.955
interviews with reus about it.
770
00:32:34.955 --> 00:32:35.875
Maybe we should have him on the show
771
00:32:35.935 --> 00:32:37.115
and ask him this question ourselves.
772
00:32:37.615 --> 00:32:40.085
But, um, it is gonna be interesting to see.
773
00:32:40.115 --> 00:32:42.565
It's gonna be interesting to see how he can help, uh,
774
00:32:42.905 --> 00:32:46.645
you know, raise the bar of JHR if, if he can in the same way
775
00:32:46.645 --> 00:32:48.445
that they did with, with Dale Coy.
776
00:32:48.985 --> 00:32:52.125
Um, it is gonna be interesting to see
777
00:32:52.225 --> 00:32:54.205
who now Dale puts in the other car.
778
00:32:54.825 --> 00:32:58.405
Uh, obviously we know Hagar's there, um, in the one car kind
779
00:32:58.405 --> 00:32:59.605
of supported by Andretti Global.
780
00:33:01.145 --> 00:33:02.405
And then the other thing man, like
781
00:33:02.625 --> 00:33:04.045
to pivot a little bit off of arena.
782
00:33:04.145 --> 00:33:06.285
So, you know, congrats to reinas on, on the job,
783
00:33:07.185 --> 00:33:10.685
but that also means, um, I don't know what exactly
784
00:33:10.685 --> 00:33:12.245
that means for Connor.
785
00:33:13.145 --> 00:33:15.885
You know, obviously, I don't know,
786
00:33:16.245 --> 00:33:18.325
I don't remember offhand if if Stingray
787
00:33:18.385 --> 00:33:19.605
had a multi-year deal.
788
00:33:19.725 --> 00:33:22.045
I, I have a feeling he did. He does. Yeah.
789
00:33:22.045 --> 00:33:24.685
So this is not great news for Connor daily fans.
790
00:33:25.265 --> 00:33:27.045
No, unless you wanna look at it the other way,
791
00:33:27.055 --> 00:33:29.845
which is now there's a Dale coin racing seat open
792
00:33:30.635 --> 00:33:33.205
that maybe wasn't expected to be open,
793
00:33:33.465 --> 00:33:34.765
you know, pre Nashville.
794
00:33:35.585 --> 00:33:39.275
And, um, Connor's run there before.
795
00:33:39.415 --> 00:33:40.595
The team's been very good.
796
00:33:40.705 --> 00:33:43.195
They've got a, a young driver, uh,
797
00:33:43.935 --> 00:33:45.995
who doesn't have a ton of oval experience.
798
00:33:45.995 --> 00:33:47.715
They could probably use the help of a veteran,
799
00:33:47.715 --> 00:33:51.115
especially a veteran that is one that excels on ovals.
800
00:33:51.895 --> 00:33:54.275
All things that, you know, all boxes at Connor checks.
801
00:33:55.095 --> 00:33:56.475
We have heard a lot of rumors about
802
00:33:57.125 --> 00:33:59.515
Rojan being in the running for that seat as well.
803
00:34:00.375 --> 00:34:02.035
So it's, it's kind of getting interesting.
804
00:34:02.035 --> 00:34:04.395
We're running outta seats to fill on the IndyCar grid.
805
00:34:04.895 --> 00:34:06.595
And, and one, one thing, like,
806
00:34:06.875 --> 00:34:08.395
I don't wanna break news on this show
807
00:34:08.675 --> 00:34:10.395
'cause that's not what we're about. Um,
808
00:34:10.815 --> 00:34:11.815
Uh, I'm sorry.
809
00:34:11.815 --> 00:34:16.235
We are now a fully fledged news breaking, uh, outlet.
810
00:34:16.895 --> 00:34:21.275
But, um, Kyle Collette did a rookie driver
811
00:34:21.285 --> 00:34:23.675
evaluation test, I should say, um,
812
00:34:24.735 --> 00:34:27.275
in middle Ohio about three weeks ago.
813
00:34:30.255 --> 00:34:35.145
He, he slash AJ Foyt could not do another driver evaluation
814
00:34:35.165 --> 00:34:36.345
day in 2025.
815
00:34:37.605 --> 00:34:42.105
So if you deduce that the only way that he is in the car
816
00:34:42.845 --> 00:34:46.745
at the IMS road course test three days ago
817
00:34:47.685 --> 00:34:51.185
was if he is no longer in a driver evaluation role,
818
00:34:51.415 --> 00:34:53.385
Well the team could just burn a test day.
819
00:34:53.555 --> 00:34:55.225
Right. It doesn't have to be
820
00:34:55.255 --> 00:34:57.345
with their signed contracted driver,
821
00:34:57.485 --> 00:34:59.185
it just comes towards their You're
822
00:34:59.305 --> 00:35:00.305
Absolutely right.
823
00:35:00.305 --> 00:35:01.105
But if you were a team owner, James,
824
00:35:01.645 --> 00:35:03.065
Yes. Oh yes. And you're going to
825
00:35:03.615 --> 00:35:04.615
Burn a test day.
826
00:35:04.885 --> 00:35:06.305
No. Yes. Wouldn't you have the other car there
827
00:35:06.565 --> 00:35:09.265
and your signed driver with Santino Ferucci?
828
00:35:09.265 --> 00:35:11.185
Because that means Santino doesn't get that day.
829
00:35:12.135 --> 00:35:13.425
It's true. That is a good point.
830
00:35:13.425 --> 00:35:14.865
Whereas if you are,
831
00:35:14.875 --> 00:35:17.345
let's just say using a rookie day mm-hmm .
832
00:35:18.255 --> 00:35:20.785
Santino couldn't be there anyways. Mm-hmm .
833
00:35:20.865 --> 00:35:22.105
But if you were using a team test day,
834
00:35:22.105 --> 00:35:23.465
you certainly would have the other car there.
835
00:35:23.805 --> 00:35:26.665
Now I'm just going based on the rules
836
00:35:26.765 --> 00:35:27.945
of the IndyCar rule book,
837
00:35:28.135 --> 00:35:30.625
I've not been told anything otherwise.
838
00:35:30.725 --> 00:35:34.145
So you are speculating that Kyle collect based
839
00:35:34.145 --> 00:35:36.905
On the rules,
Based on the rules, it would make sense.
840
00:35:37.225 --> 00:35:41.565
You are using deductive reasoning to place Kyle Collette
841
00:35:41.625 --> 00:35:44.405
who finished second in the India next championship, uh,
842
00:35:44.505 --> 00:35:48.645
behind Dennis Hauger at AJ Foy racing in 2026.
843
00:35:49.365 --> 00:35:51.765
Interesting. Just based on the rules, not interesting else.
844
00:35:52.235 --> 00:35:55.525
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, uh, that's a, that's a hot take
845
00:35:55.525 --> 00:35:57.645
and I like it because we weren't sure who was gonna fill
846
00:35:57.645 --> 00:35:59.925
that car post, uh, post little Dave.
847
00:36:00.605 --> 00:36:05.015
Hmm. Interesting. Very interesting.
848
00:36:05.075 --> 00:36:08.855
On that note, um, of the, the rule professor, um, I must go.
849
00:36:08.855 --> 00:36:11.975
Yeah, get out. Here you go. Do your thing. Okay. Love you.
850
00:36:12.275 --> 00:36:14.055
Thanks for chatting. Love you. Bye.
851
00:36:15.395 --> 00:36:17.855
Say hi to the fam. Uh, wow,
852
00:36:18.555 --> 00:36:19.555
Now you're stuck with me.
853
00:36:19.685 --> 00:36:21.775
What a bombshell to just leave on
854
00:36:21.775 --> 00:36:23.095
trying to predict driver market.
855
00:36:23.285 --> 00:36:25.775
Look at the way the sun is coming through my blinds.
856
00:36:25.815 --> 00:36:27.495
I should have closed them more. I look like a st
857
00:36:27.975 --> 00:36:28.975
Probably.
858
00:36:28.975 --> 00:36:29.335
Yeah, look at that. That's a,
859
00:36:29.805 --> 00:36:30.805
It's October.
860
00:36:30.875 --> 00:36:32.615
It is, right? It's, it's, you know,
861
00:36:32.755 --> 00:36:33.775
I'm not gonna say the word,
862
00:36:33.835 --> 00:36:35.415
I'm not gonna say that term. Um,
863
00:36:35.515 --> 00:36:36.735
Spooky. Is that what you were gonna say?
864
00:36:36.735 --> 00:36:38.415
Yeah, I was gonna say spooky. See, I'm not gonna say that.
865
00:36:38.595 --> 00:36:41.335
I'm just, I'm, I'm an adult, so I'm not gonna do that
866
00:36:41.995 --> 00:36:42.995
All.
867
00:36:42.995 --> 00:36:44.295
So you were, you were in Georgia this weekend.
868
00:36:44.675 --> 00:36:46.615
Uh, I know this, you got a few more things
869
00:36:46.615 --> 00:36:47.615
before you get a weekend home.
870
00:36:48.635 --> 00:36:49.735
So what do you got coming up?
871
00:36:50.195 --> 00:36:52.015
So I leave now. So this, you know, I had my,
872
00:36:52.055 --> 00:36:55.735
I had my 32 days on the road, came home for my 18 hours
873
00:36:55.755 --> 00:36:57.295
and left for roader, uh, road Atlanta.
874
00:36:57.815 --> 00:37:01.015
I do have to say I am pretty proud of myself
875
00:37:01.955 --> 00:37:06.885
for the jet lag management that I pulled off,
876
00:37:06.915 --> 00:37:10.365
like Singapore's a 12 hour time difference to the
877
00:37:10.955 --> 00:37:11.955
Eastern.
878
00:37:11.955 --> 00:37:13.765
But didn't you say they kind of like keep on European
879
00:37:13.835 --> 00:37:15.485
time? In Singapore? Okay.
880
00:37:15.755 --> 00:37:18.765
Yeah, they try to for sure. Um, I wouldn't say it's,
881
00:37:18.765 --> 00:37:19.765
So that's eight.
882
00:37:19.765 --> 00:37:22.325
No, that's what, five or six hours? Six,
883
00:37:22.345 --> 00:37:23.345
Six to seven?
884
00:37:23.705 --> 00:37:25.085
Uh, kind of the way it works out.
885
00:37:25.705 --> 00:37:28.845
Um, which is sometimes even, even weirder amount
886
00:37:28.845 --> 00:37:30.005
of time to deal with.
887
00:37:30.745 --> 00:37:34.205
But dude, I, I pulled it off like I felt great.
888
00:37:34.365 --> 00:37:36.085
I went to bed when I wanted to go to bed.
889
00:37:36.205 --> 00:37:39.045
I slept for the seven to eight hours I wanted to sleep
890
00:37:39.225 --> 00:37:41.005
and I woke up feeling great the whole time.
891
00:37:41.395 --> 00:37:42.885
I've done Singapore many times
892
00:37:43.265 --> 00:37:46.125
and I've normally taken a full week to get over that.
893
00:37:46.195 --> 00:37:49.565
Like midday would have just crazy energy slumps.
894
00:37:49.565 --> 00:37:52.725
And I don't know if it was just like, my brain was like,
895
00:37:52.825 --> 00:37:53.845
you can't afford that.
896
00:37:53.945 --> 00:37:55.525
You have to be behind the wheel of a race car
897
00:37:55.525 --> 00:37:57.485
and you gotta be paying attention and, and be on your game.
898
00:37:57.785 --> 00:37:59.685
But it was pretty, I I was pretty impressed.
899
00:37:59.925 --> 00:38:00.805
I was pretty impressed. I was
900
00:38:00.805 --> 00:38:01.885
happy, I was happy with that program.
901
00:38:02.585 --> 00:38:07.085
Um, so did that, came home Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
902
00:38:08.295 --> 00:38:10.455
I get it home Wednesday I leave for Austin,
903
00:38:10.795 --> 00:38:12.135
Austin Formula One race.
904
00:38:12.875 --> 00:38:16.015
Uh, we then go straight to Mexico City from Austin.
905
00:38:16.155 --> 00:38:17.735
So I'll be on the road for the next couple weeks
906
00:38:18.315 --> 00:38:19.615
and then I get a weekend off,
907
00:38:20.395 --> 00:38:23.935
and then I have five straight weeks on the road.
908
00:38:24.555 --> 00:38:27.845
So we're there, we're we're almost there.
909
00:38:27.975 --> 00:38:30.085
We're, we're almost there after this, this trip.
910
00:38:30.195 --> 00:38:32.125
It's kind of the home stretch. You get one more break
911
00:38:32.305 --> 00:38:35.005
and then power through the last month basically.
912
00:38:35.945 --> 00:38:39.645
Um, but so for, for Austin, I
913
00:38:40.505 --> 00:38:43.445
am this, this thing's moving just slowly further up.
914
00:38:43.555 --> 00:38:45.525
It's gonna be on my face by the end of the show. I
915
00:38:45.525 --> 00:38:46.525
Mean, you could just close it, you could just,
916
00:38:46.525 --> 00:38:47.385
You could just take it.
917
00:38:47.385 --> 00:38:48.605
That's, that involves getting up, which I don't wanna
918
00:38:48.605 --> 00:38:49.685
interrupt the flow of the show.
919
00:38:50.345 --> 00:38:53.725
Um, okay. So yeah, so Coda this weekend
920
00:38:53.985 --> 00:38:56.725
and for the, for the intro, the opening of the show.
921
00:38:58.185 --> 00:39:00.925
So like, you know, on, on on F1 TV at the start of the show,
922
00:39:01.185 --> 00:39:02.565
top of the program after the,
923
00:39:02.625 --> 00:39:03.925
or maybe it's, is it in the pre Yeah,
924
00:39:03.925 --> 00:39:05.045
it's usually the top of the pre-show.
925
00:39:05.635 --> 00:39:08.005
There's like usually some kind of moody,
926
00:39:08.005 --> 00:39:09.605
well shot opening thing
927
00:39:09.625 --> 00:39:12.245
and sometimes it's something to do with local
928
00:39:12.995 --> 00:39:14.165
culture, whatever.
929
00:39:14.985 --> 00:39:17.685
Um, I don't know the details
930
00:39:18.265 --> 00:39:19.165
and I don't know if I'm even
931
00:39:19.165 --> 00:39:20.405
allowed to say this, but I'm gonna say it.
932
00:39:20.905 --> 00:39:24.955
Uh, somehow it involves me riding a horse.
933
00:39:26.035 --> 00:39:29.115
I know that when I get to Austin, we're going to a ranch
934
00:39:29.135 --> 00:39:31.235
to film something for the open.
935
00:39:31.695 --> 00:39:34.675
So I am a little bit terrified
936
00:39:35.065 --> 00:39:38.075
because, uh, large animals scare me
937
00:39:38.145 --> 00:39:41.425
because they're not controllable.
938
00:39:41.685 --> 00:39:44.785
I'm, I'm more of a fan of being able to
939
00:39:45.775 --> 00:39:47.225
control the things I like.
940
00:39:47.505 --> 00:39:48.665
Multiple horsepower mechanically.
941
00:39:48.665 --> 00:39:51.465
Not a single horsepower biologically, if
942
00:39:51.465 --> 00:39:52.745
that makes sense. Okay.
943
00:39:53.085 --> 00:39:54.665
Uh, can you ride a horse?
944
00:39:54.775 --> 00:39:56.665
Like, is that something that you've done in the past?
945
00:39:57.685 --> 00:40:02.265
So, Ooh, yes. I have ridden a horse in the past.
946
00:40:04.745 --> 00:40:07.925
It was by past it, I mean past, it was past, okay.
947
00:40:07.925 --> 00:40:09.245
It was long, long time ago.
948
00:40:09.465 --> 00:40:11.845
And I'm sure it was very controlled by somebody else,
949
00:40:11.845 --> 00:40:13.245
which I assume this will be as well.
950
00:40:13.705 --> 00:40:16.005
Um, the good news is if it all goes, you just keep like
951
00:40:16.295 --> 00:40:17.325
Doing the same things.
952
00:40:17.395 --> 00:40:18.445
What I mean, now what do you mean?
953
00:40:18.445 --> 00:40:19.525
You've both done F1 stuff,
954
00:40:19.625 --> 00:40:22.005
now you're both like horse guys, it's just
955
00:40:22.005 --> 00:40:24.605
Let's, well, I'm getting, so Alex just watches his,
956
00:40:24.825 --> 00:40:26.685
I'm going to, I'm going ride al one,
957
00:40:26.705 --> 00:40:27.925
I'm gonna actually do something.
958
00:40:27.925 --> 00:40:30.085
He didn't really do anything. Okay, that's fair.
959
00:40:30.285 --> 00:40:32.885
Although we both did ride along in one of those, like,
960
00:40:33.525 --> 00:40:34.885
I dunno what they're called now, like the little
961
00:40:35.525 --> 00:40:37.965
carriage racing ones, you know, like Cher,
962
00:40:38.145 --> 00:40:39.405
the little, the little buggy.
963
00:40:39.405 --> 00:40:41.805
Yeah. Like, you know, like they do horse racing, like
964
00:40:41.805 --> 00:40:42.885
A Ben, her style thing.
965
00:40:43.345 --> 00:40:46.085
No, they sit in them, you know. Okay. Come on.
966
00:40:46.085 --> 00:40:48.005
You've seen these. They're, it's like, it's like jockeys
967
00:40:48.005 --> 00:40:48.645
and they have these little
968
00:40:49.095 --> 00:40:50.685
carts they to, I don't know what it's called. No.
969
00:40:50.685 --> 00:40:51.685
Should know. It's not been,
970
00:40:51.695 --> 00:40:52.695
One's not seen.
971
00:40:52.695 --> 00:40:53.605
Oh yeah. Alex and I and,
972
00:40:53.605 --> 00:40:55.925
and a couple other guys when we did a race at like the
973
00:40:55.925 --> 00:40:57.405
Indiana Downs or whatever.
974
00:40:57.405 --> 00:40:59.365
When did this happen? Couple years ago.
975
00:40:59.395 --> 00:41:02.005
Like, it was a, it was a May, it was a May thing.
976
00:41:03.185 --> 00:41:06.885
And um, yeah, we both, we've both done that.
977
00:41:06.885 --> 00:41:08.685
That was before he got into horse ownership.
978
00:41:09.105 --> 00:41:10.805
But yeah, I'm getting into horse ridership
979
00:41:11.185 --> 00:41:13.205
and I'm kind of terrified, but, uh,
980
00:41:13.205 --> 00:41:14.365
but yeah, looking forward to that.
981
00:41:14.665 --> 00:41:16.085
Austin is such a great race.
982
00:41:16.085 --> 00:41:17.325
It's like, it's such a great event
983
00:41:17.825 --> 00:41:21.485
and Mexico City might be my favorite race to attend
984
00:41:21.805 --> 00:41:23.885
'cause it's just such a cool environment.
985
00:41:24.505 --> 00:41:26.365
Um, it's gonna be a little bit different not having checkout
986
00:41:26.365 --> 00:41:27.765
on the grid this year, but I think knowing
987
00:41:27.765 --> 00:41:29.565
that he's coming back next year, uh,
988
00:41:30.735 --> 00:41:32.245
it'll still be pretty, pretty fire.
989
00:41:32.825 --> 00:41:34.045
I'm happy that this one,
990
00:41:34.115 --> 00:41:36.485
this stint doesn't have like crazy time zone changes.
991
00:41:36.675 --> 00:41:38.245
It's like a couple hours tops. So Yeah.
992
00:41:38.245 --> 00:41:40.365
There you go.
What are you up to Timbo?
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Like what did you get up to last weekend
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and what are you up to this coming weekend?
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Um, my brother and sister-in-law came in town.
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It was their kids' fall break.
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So we all got to Universal and, and, uh,
998
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and my nephews had a sleepover here with Hazel
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and, uh, beauty, uh, yeah,
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Hazel broke 20 minutes on her two mile at cross country.
1001
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She did a 19 minute, two mile run. Nice.
1002
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Um, other than that, yeah, just been So
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Can Hazel now outrun you?
1004
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Probably, probably, I mean that like,
1005
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that was faster than my pace for the half marathon,
1006
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but I did did a half marathon. You're
1007
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Doing a half marathon? Yeah.
1008
00:42:16.765 --> 00:42:19.045
Yeah. Yeah. But I have not run much since then. So
1009
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You guys should go run together.
1010
00:42:21.265 --> 00:42:23.045
That's the plan. We're gonna start running together.
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00:42:23.075 --> 00:42:24.725
Okay. Like, but yeah.
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00:42:25.325 --> 00:42:26.335
Have you planned a haircut?
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00:42:27.325 --> 00:42:29.375
Yeah, tomorrow. Finally gonna get a
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00:42:29.375 --> 00:42:30.575
haircut tomorrow. Good.
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00:42:30.635 --> 00:42:32.615
That's the right call. That's the right move. It's
1016
00:42:32.615 --> 00:42:34.775
Been getting, it's been getting aggressive on,
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on the internet comments.
1018
00:42:36.845 --> 00:42:38.975
Yeah. Well, not why on Tuesday show
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00:42:39.715 --> 00:42:41.695
you had it sitting in such a way that like,
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00:42:41.915 --> 00:42:43.215
you didn't have a forehead.
1021
00:42:43.335 --> 00:42:44.335
I mean, it was,
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00:42:45.475 --> 00:42:46.475
It was like that.
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00:42:46.875 --> 00:42:48.255
It wasn't well, you could see your eyes,
1024
00:42:48.395 --> 00:42:52.015
but it was like, it was just kind of gently sh uh,
1025
00:42:52.645 --> 00:42:54.255
shadowing your eyebrows.
1026
00:42:54.605 --> 00:42:58.855
Yeah. And uh, yeah, so I'm not, I'm not getting there.
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00:42:58.855 --> 00:43:00.055
I'm not, I'm not ever gonna sit here
1028
00:43:00.075 --> 00:43:02.375
and like endorse internet comments
1029
00:43:02.835 --> 00:43:04.855
or say that the internet is right.
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00:43:06.315 --> 00:43:08.095
I'm just gonna say I'm happy you've got a haircut
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planned as a friend.
1032
00:43:09.695 --> 00:43:11.735
I think that, um, that's a good move.
1033
00:43:11.855 --> 00:43:13.655
I think you're on the right, right strategy there.
1034
00:43:14.155 --> 00:43:18.335
So I did, I have one kind of funny story. Uh,
1035
00:43:18.605 --> 00:43:19.605
I'll be the judge.
1036
00:43:19.605 --> 00:43:20.295
Happy. Yeah, go ahead. There
1037
00:43:20.295 --> 00:43:23.495
Was a fundraiser, uh, for my daughter's school on Saturday
1038
00:43:23.795 --> 00:43:25.935
and they had a silent auction, Uhhuh .
1039
00:43:26.015 --> 00:43:29.135
And one of the packages it said like a a thousand dollars
1040
00:43:29.395 --> 00:43:31.575
spa package, which I took
1041
00:43:31.635 --> 00:43:35.255
to mean it was a thousand dollars gift certificate to a spa.
1042
00:43:35.635 --> 00:43:36.735
And so I was like, yes,
1043
00:43:36.735 --> 00:43:39.015
Never once how that's worked, but yes, go ahead. Okay.
1044
00:43:39.085 --> 00:43:43.575
Well there was some wine involved, so I like, it's like,
1045
00:43:43.575 --> 00:43:46.215
oh, well then that's just, like, that just makes sense.
1046
00:43:46.315 --> 00:43:48.295
If the bidding's under a thousand, I should do that.
1047
00:43:48.755 --> 00:43:50.335
My mom's coming out for Thanksgiving.
1048
00:43:50.615 --> 00:43:52.175
I thought it would be like a nice gift.
1049
00:43:52.355 --> 00:43:53.895
Get her a spa gift certificate.
1050
00:43:54.395 --> 00:43:56.775
Eh, I I don't know what the hell to do with this.
1051
00:43:57.175 --> 00:43:58.375
I don't know what the hell that is.
1052
00:43:59.175 --> 00:44:02.025
I don't either.
Okay, so you a you're holding a,
1053
00:44:02.065 --> 00:44:03.505
a basket for those listening.
1054
00:44:03.725 --> 00:44:05.905
Um, what's in it?
1055
00:44:06.415 --> 00:44:09.425
Some brightening facial wash that's, uh,
1056
00:44:10.545 --> 00:44:12.465
I don't know. I don't know what any of
1057
00:44:12.465 --> 00:44:13.465
It is.
1058
00:44:13.465 --> 00:44:14.305
And you open it to see if there is a gift certificate
1059
00:44:14.365 --> 00:44:15.425
or like a I have not.
1060
00:44:15.945 --> 00:44:18.145
I have not.
I mean, I hope you paid less than a
1061
00:44:18.265 --> 00:44:19.745
thousand dollars for that basket. I
1062
00:44:19.745 --> 00:44:21.545
Did, but like more than I should have.
1063
00:44:22.155 --> 00:44:23.305
Right. You
Know
1064
00:44:23.305 --> 00:44:24.305
What?
1065
00:44:24.305 --> 00:44:25.305
It doesn't matter. You've already got it.
1066
00:44:25.305 --> 00:44:26.665
Just give it to your mom. She's gonna love it.
1067
00:44:26.805 --> 00:44:28.705
And if she find I'm give give it to girlfriend finds out,
1068
00:44:29.055 --> 00:44:30.745
I'll give it to the girlfriend. Even
1069
00:44:30.745 --> 00:44:31.925
Though you just said you were gonna
1070
00:44:31.925 --> 00:44:33.125
give it to your mom, but Well, I was
1071
00:44:33.125 --> 00:44:34.885
Gonna give my mom, mom the gift certificate.
1072
00:44:35.405 --> 00:44:37.165
I can't, like, I don't want to give her a bunch of,
1073
00:44:37.165 --> 00:44:40.285
because she's not gonna bring a checked bag to California
1074
00:44:40.345 --> 00:44:41.365
for like a few days.
1075
00:44:41.785 --> 00:44:43.445
So then I'm giving her like a task
1076
00:44:43.545 --> 00:44:44.565
to get a bunch of stuff home.
1077
00:44:44.565 --> 00:44:46.285
That's not a good gift. Okay.
1078
00:44:46.285 --> 00:44:47.445
So that's fair. Yeah.
1079
00:44:47.545 --> 00:44:50.365
You thought that through, um, now you just, you go to a spa
1080
00:44:50.365 --> 00:44:52.285
and get your mom a gift certificate is what you need to do.
1081
00:44:53.065 --> 00:44:55.515
Now that that moment has passed.
1082
00:44:56.175 --> 00:44:59.555
I'm not having any more wine. Not that good of a sun. So
1083
00:44:59.995 --> 00:45:01.115
I, yeah, I'm gonna go back to the,
1084
00:45:01.135 --> 00:45:02.195
the being a friend thing here
1085
00:45:02.255 --> 00:45:04.715
and I'm, I'm telling you, you, you should do that.
1086
00:45:05.905 --> 00:45:08.835
I'll consider it. Well,
I know Joan,
1087
00:45:09.485 --> 00:45:10.485
She's gonna mark that.
1088
00:45:10.485 --> 00:45:11.275
Oh, we forgot Nashville. Let's get to
1089
00:45:11.275 --> 00:45:12.795
that next week and, uh, oh
1090
00:45:12.795 --> 00:45:13.795
Shoot.
1091
00:45:13.795 --> 00:45:15.195
Yeah. Uh, meant to do that. Definitely.
1092
00:45:15.195 --> 00:45:16.435
We'll, definitely super.
1093
00:45:17.245 --> 00:45:20.115
Think about maybe, potentially possibly
1094
00:45:20.475 --> 00:45:21.635
considering getting to Nashville next week.
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00:45:23.105 --> 00:45:24.515
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