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This is, is off track.
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So Davis, how's your pool ? ?
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Is it salty by chance? Yeah, it is.
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It's so salty. But no, it's the perfect amount of salt.
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Mm. It's the perfect amount of salt.
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Like 3,400 ppm.
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Don't See, here's the thing, Alex,
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is you're actually like the kind of guy that went
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and did all the research as to like how to do stuff.
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And you start doing, everybody knows you do your own pH
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balancing and you learned all the
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science of the chemicals and whatever. No,
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I don't because it's the salt water pool. But yeah.
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Well you used to do that before you had a salt
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Water pool.
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That's true. That's true. That is true.
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But then on your recommendation, I decided
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to switch my pool to a salt water pool.
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Did Tim just depart the conversation?
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'cause he knows he's never gonna achieve having a
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pool. Uh, no.
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I realized my air conditioner was still on
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and I didn't want the background noise
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Dedicated to the cause.
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Anyway, so yes, I'm excited to get home and use my pool, uh,
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because it was switched over
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and it was, I gotta say, this is gonna sound corny,
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but it was unbelievably easy.
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The boys at, uh, boys
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and girls at Timber Ridge Pools hooked me up in a big way.
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And I called them, to be fair, very last minute
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because I thought I had people coming to stay at the house.
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And I was like, I know they're gonna wanna use the pool.
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And I've been wanting to do this
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because Alex has convinced me to do it.
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So I call 'em last minute and they squeeze it in.
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They got awesome system up
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and running and it is much easier.
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Alex, you were right. That is
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an amazing way to go about it. So
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James, so James, I'm, I'm really happy for you.
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That's great. Um, I'm really happy
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that you found a great installer
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to do you a solid on a last minute thing. Great.
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I did. And, um, I highly recommend them.
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Timber Ridge Pool. Shout out to those guys
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and girls again, if you are in the Indiana area
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and you would like to get your pools done,
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that's the place to go and get it done. Um,
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Which is, which is awesome.
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And, and I love that.
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Um, I heard there are fans of the show,
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so if you're listening, guys, shout out.
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Thank you for, for listening. We love it.
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Um, James, can you use your status in life
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to get some <inaudible> internet ?
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Um, amazingly yes.
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When we complained about my internet,
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the people from a company reached out to make it better.
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Well, they didn't. Um, and,
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and then I told you a solution, uh, to fix it,
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which is you still haven't done it.
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And then you're now somewhere where
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that set solution would be perfect.
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Um, and clearly you haven't done that either. So
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Is starlink your solution?
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Yes.
Oh yeah. No, look, I'm happy to do that, Alex.
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I spent four days at my house in, in July.
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I will spend three days at my house in
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August. So I haven't had
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Clearly spend enough.
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You're welcome. Time to get a salt water pool.
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No, I, that's the best part about
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it is I didn't have to do
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Anything. Here's the, here's
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The, to make a phone
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Here's the wild thing. Here's the wild thing, James.
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Mm-hmm . You got a,
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a saltwater pool done via very good installers.
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Mm-hmm . Maybe in part to this podcast. Mm-hmm .
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Which exists because of internet .
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And so I feel like maybe you should put the same amount
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of emphasis on the internet for the show to get you the pool
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that you need and the time that you need it.
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So I would also
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if we're gonna start criticizing each other,
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I would like you guys to start traveling
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with microphones. I could just,
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Oh my God.
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Tim. Tim, you know what?
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Because I know you have to edit this in like eight minutes.
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You, because I travel with
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that microphone every week and one time I forget it.
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And you're gonna sit here and criticize me. Go stuff.
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I was criticizing folks.
That's what I would say.
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I always travel with it. I brought it to England.
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I brought it to Italy. I brought that to,
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I brought it to, I brought all over the world. That's true,
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Tim. It's true.
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You need to travel with the microphone
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because Internet's so bad. That
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Is part of it.
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That is part of it. . But it's everywhere I go.
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It doesn't matter where I
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Do you use an iPad? Like a Neanderthal?
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I don't think Neanderthal's had iPads. Well,
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I mean, it's pretty Neanderthal esque when you have a world
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of, of hyper performance laptops to
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Do, let me, let me professional
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Have, show on an iPad.
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Let professional .
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Lemme have, um, let me have my rebuttal. Okay.
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So if, oh God,
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It'd be funny if you froze right now. . If
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The good people at Star Lake were as fast and helpful
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and on time as the lovely people at Timber Ridge Pools,
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I could just make a call and my starlink would
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be up and running when I came home.
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'cause that's what I did with my saltwater pool system.
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And it was great. But I don't think that's
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how it works with Starlink.
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I mean, and I'm not told long
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Enough to Elon is, is way less busy than he
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was three months ago. So maybe that
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Is true.
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His time is freed up a little bit. Uh, I'll make some
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Calls.
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Well, I haven't kept up with the news since
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2015. Did anything happen?
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Right,
Right. We landed on the moon.
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Huh? Sick. Yeah.
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Sounds like a big step for man.
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Anyway, I am not home.
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I'm looking for, it's a giant leap actually for mankind.
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Yes. I'm not home. I'm up still up in
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Canada enjoying time up at the cottage.
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I can't wait to get back to home in Indianapolis in my
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beautiful pool and use it in the beautiful summer
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before it's too late and has to get closed up.
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Um, Alex, you are not in Indianapolis. You are somewhere.
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Uh, that apparently is very busy. I mean,
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To be fair, I I I feel like you should be
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where I am considering it's Wednesday.
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Yeah. So Thursday is normally a day when people fly into
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races, but Hmm.
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Why are you up there on a Wednesday?
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Don't you normally fly into Thursday?
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Yeah. Well this is, uh, this is the Java House Grand Prix
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of Monterey James in case you,
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Uh, little lecture stuff.
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I did actually, you know, I just learned that.
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I'm not gonna lie, I only just, I only just heard
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that today, but Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Do so
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A little extra, little extra stuff for you going on. We
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Just, we just, we just got a lot of things going on here.
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Um, pretty exciting.
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Introducing Peel and pork pods
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to a whole new demographic, hopefully.
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Mm. Um, so yeah.
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Are there a lot of Java
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Are there a lot of Java House locations out west? No,
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James, there is none outside of Indiana.
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You know, we're just, we're just trying to,
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we're just trying to expand nationwide one Got it.
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Demographic at a time.
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Because you can just order these Java House
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pods online, can't you? Mm-hmm.
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You sure can it
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You can, you can order for your friend when he,
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when he feels bad about not getting a box. Yeah, yeah,
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You, which he did. And then you already had the box in the
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mail, so now you feel bad.
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So where can people go, where can people go
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and get these Java House pods online?
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Well, they can go to java house.com.
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They can go to this little, little boutique website, uh,
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called Amazon, um mm-hmm.
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Which does carry them. Um, you know, they're, they're known
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for their books, but, uh,
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ultimately they also do sell Java House pods.
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I heard they recently expanded from books Yeah.
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To coffee pods. So that's incredible. Right. I
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I mean, it makes sense. Coffee and books.
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It goes together like Hammond tuna fish,
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I mean, they're sure things that I like mm-hmm .
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Um, do they, is there like a discount?
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Can you go on java house.com
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and use Rossi at checkout to get like 10% off your pods?
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No, but you can use another discount code
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and I really see what you're doing here, James.
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And it's, it's very, it's very good.
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It's very good to keep, um, the, the,
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uh, the things in balance.
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Right. Um, I've
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Just asked you because I like discount codes.
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What's the discount code? Yeah.
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Well it's a, it's a Java House GP for 27% off.
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Oh, 27. What?
That sounds like a really good deal.
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It absolutely incredible. It's absolutely
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Incredible. What
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So good. Tell us about your thing.
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No, I'm good. I just wanna ask.
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No,
No, I wanna know. I need a good book to read
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with my pods that I'm ordering from the bookstore
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While we drink the pods beside sitting beside my pool and
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We're all back in Indian.
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Uh, that was fun.
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That's good time. What do you mean you don't
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I haven't checked, checked that website in a while.
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Do you have any left?
Yeah, I have too many left.
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Have too many big be for kids. Left. It turns out,
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I feel like we told really
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I feel like we told you that you ordered too many.
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Oh yeah. No, you did. You did. Okay.
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Okay.
We love the enthusiasm. Yeah.
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you believed you believed in you and that's a good thing
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because Lord knows not a lot
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of others would have in that. Yeah,
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That's fair. That's
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Fair. Right. Including us.
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Alright, well there was a race. Yeah. We
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Should probably
Go back for Alex. We should,
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We should probably go back in time
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and talk Toronto for a hot minute.
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Alex.
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Yes. James.
How did we feel?
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I mean, we talked going into Toronto, you were hopeful
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that there was some stuff
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that you guys found that would be better.
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How did practice go
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Bad.
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Okay. But then how did qualifying go?
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Badder.
Badder. Got it, got it.
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How'd the race go though?
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Baddest.
Baddest. Yeah. , I'm gonna say that. Yeah.
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Yeah. Can we, so I feel like there has been
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a weird amount of like weird bad luck in IndyCar this season
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for a few people in particular.
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Mm-hmm . I feel like you were one of the drivers
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that has had, uh, uh, an uneven amount
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of just weird, bad luck happening.
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Mm. What happened to you on Sunday is one
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of the most bizarre things I have ever seen in motorsports.
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Yeah. I was pretty surprised in the moment. Like
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When it happened.
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What did you think happened?
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Because, all right, so for those that don't know,
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you come outta the last turn, you, you like,
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you like breathe up against the wall, something
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that happens 10 times during a race, totally fine.
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Something that you can get away with all weekend long
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and you right rear corner, you
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Get away with explodes.
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You can get away with like a lot more now.
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Like you can way more, our suspensions are pretty strong.
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They're pretty robust
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And you hit nice and flush,
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which normally the floor kind of saves you
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Actually actually didn't hit James.
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Well, yeah, I guess not.
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Um, but two of the concrete blocks weren't perfectly aligned
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and there was a lift that was, what would you call that?
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Like four mil, five mil maybe.
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I mean, I work in the correct unit,
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so I'd say like an inch and a half to two.
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Oh, it was an inch. It was that big.
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Was it was two inches you would say? Yeah. Is that okay?
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It was, yeah. I guess on tv,
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look from a distance it looks even worse from
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That.
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Oh man. The fact that actually pause. Huge shoutout guys.
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Thank you for not being like, man, Alex is really dumb
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and just crashed.
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Like it was, it, it's very hard, um,
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in anyone watching in that moment to like see a scenario
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that is weird because like that's a corner that's very easy
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to smack the outside wall and
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Day many right. Rears
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Have to that wall and your day's over
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because it's, it's just, it's not that
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it's a terrible mistake, but it's a mistake nonetheless.
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And, and it, it's a dayer.
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Um, and you guys kind
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of watched the replay and you were like, wait a second.
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That doesn't look, that doesn't look like that.
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That looks a little abnormal.
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And then you actually were able to zoom in kind of on a wall
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and notice that it wasn't aligned properly.
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Here's the thing. We all know that it is, um,
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a huge, a huge task to build a temporary street circuit.
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Um, and it's, it's something that requires a lot
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of moving parts when you're dealing with cities
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and unions and all of the bureaucracy, bureaucracy
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that goes into, um, having
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a government involved in building a racetrack, right?
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It's not just the IndyCar people
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and the promoters getting
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to work and, and doing their thing.
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But I I will say, um, this isn't the first time
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something like this has happened, number one.
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Number two, when, when you showed up
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to do the track walk on Thursday, which was at 5:00 PM
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you can't say that you're at all surprised
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that something like this happened, um,
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because quite frankly, like, it, it,
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every year it seems like it's a huge scramble just to get
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walls and fences up by the time the first session rolls out.
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And, and it's just, it's, we are a,
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we are an elite professional sporting
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organization, right?
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And, and so there has to be, I mean, at
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Least occasionally,
No, we are,
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I mean this is a professional sports league.
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This is, this is the, the highest level
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of open wheel motor sports in North America
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and the second highest level
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of open wheel motorsports on the planet, right?
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So there's gotta be some level of, of,
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of standard, I guess.
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Um, and so it's disappointing to have a day end
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when it's ultimately like a manufacturing
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default of the track.
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Like it's one thing if your day ends because the car breaks
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or the engine fails or whatever,
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and it's people that are pushing performance limits, right?
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To try and gain that extra advantage or whatever.
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You're going out on a, on a, on a
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what is supposed to be a controlled environment, right?
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And, and again, like it's, it's not
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that it was a massive glaring error,
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but clearly it doesn't take a lot
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to make a huge difference.
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And like it surprises me that the, that the impact
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that two inches had, if we call it two inches,
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had the impact that it did, dude, it, I've never seen,
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and maybe maybe walls have been like that forever
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and guys have hit that forever and it's been fine
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and this was just a perfect storm of whatever, right?
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But like the, the, the, the impact ended up being
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so violent through the car.
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It ripped a drive shaft outta the gearbox,
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it cut an upper wishbone in half, like, it,
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it actually like destroyed a right rear corner of a car. I
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Mean this, this just goes to show what I've been saying
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for years, which is two inches can do a lot.
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Well, , but it's just like, I, I haven't caused,
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and, and Ed and I were kind of laughing about it,
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like I haven't caused that amount of damage
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to a car since I stove it in a wall
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like in Indianapolis, right?
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Like this was like,
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it was an entire corner of a race car gone.
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Yeah. Body work floor.
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Like for a, for a a two millimeter right.
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Caliber. Yeah. Yeah.
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Everything like the right rear is gone.
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Um, so anyways, um, ultimately,
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Well hold on.
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It's, uh, lemme let me, let me ask you this.
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Do you think that, like when you did the track walk on
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Thursday, did you see stuff like that?
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Or do you think there's a chance that throughout the day,
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one of the support series, somebody cranked the wall there
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and it moved it an inch
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and that's, it was just, it went unnoticed
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because I'm, I don't know if
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I didn't look that closely at it.
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Remind me, was there a banner across the,
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the two pieces of wall in question?
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Like it did one of those things
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that might not have even been vis like visible
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until the banner got ripped off in the impact?
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Or was it two separate banners, two separate pieces,
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Whatever.
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I honestly don't know the answer to that question. Okay.
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Um, looking at the picture, it looks like it's two banners,
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but again, like that's hard to say.
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I don't, I don't know,
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I don't know if your video is clear enough, but
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Yeah, it looks, yeah,
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it doesn't look like it's one, does it?
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It looks like there's a wind down
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The middle.
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It looks, it's kind of wrapped. Yeah.
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Yeah. So,
But
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That's a great visual, so Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. It's an inch, yeah. Inch, inch bit maybe.
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Yeah. Um, so yeah,
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I excuse Ben.
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He's, he's very vocal. Um,
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He's so upset about it. He,
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He has a lot of opinions about it.
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Um, . So I, I just, I I don't know man.
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Like, I, I don't know.
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I, because ultimately in all other scenarios
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you are rewarded for being like that inch perfect,
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Right? Yeah,
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Yeah.
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And I I'm not saying
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that this was intentionally being inch perfect, like
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should you leave more margin probably.
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But this wasn't like a, a situation
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where there was a correction into the wall.
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This was like using and,
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and the amount of street races that I've done,
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and maybe this is why it's not a problem.
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Ultimately the amount of street races that I've done
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in races and qualifying, whatever, where I come in
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and I have white wall tires, you've done the same thing.
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Yes. Like you, you white wall tires on street courses,
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like that's, yes you do.
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You have to like it, there's so much lap time in,
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in using all of the width of the racetrack.
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It's um, it's wild that either
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you, you are able to get away with that all the time
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because this does exist
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or this is a case of this doesn't ever really exist
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and this was a kind of small miss on the build of the track
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or the repair of the track after a hit.
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And this was the end result.
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Like, I don't know which is which,
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but the fact of the matter is it happened,
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it ultimately happened
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because the barrier wasn't aligned properly.
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How it got to that point. Who knows? We'll never know. Um,
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It is, it is cruel and it is tragic and it is unfortunate,
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but at the same time, like I don't want
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to throw anybody involved in the track construction under
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the bus because it is incredibly difficult,
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like you mentioned off the top,
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to put a track together like that. It's two
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Definitely two barriers or two pieces.
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It wasn't covered up.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a lot
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that goes into it that is, you know, something
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that certainly could have evolved over
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the weekend, over the day.
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You know, it is unfortunate. It is, it sucks.
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Um, you know, I I think back to F1 practice,
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first practice in Vegas the first year when a manhole cover
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came up and rode off an entire F1 car for Carlos signs.
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I think back to Detroit in 2012 when a piece of rubber
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and concrete that we saw coming up for the entire race
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and race control did nothing popped up
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and sent me into the wall.
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Uh, I've been there. I get it.
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Street, street tracks are tough and it sucks.
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I I I feel bad that your day went
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that way 'cause you were having a good day.
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You guys were, Sunday was not going too badly.
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I mean, I don't know. 'cause honestly, my yellow is
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what is what ruined true my strategy.
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True. Um, so I don't know.
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I don't know how it would've gone.
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I, I did send Patto an invoice , um, for part
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of his prize money
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and uh, he was like, oh, 10%, three grand, no problem. .
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Um, so, so
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'cause he was, he was in pit lane when the yellow came out.
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You just, you just Apple pay him request that
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or Apple request.
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Uh, yeah, I mean we, we, we, we, we, we have, we've got a,
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uh, this I'm gonna see if, if he just blindly
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Accepts it.
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Um, so I think that, you know, starting on,
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on the primary tire, um, was certainly kind
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of the, the alternate strategy.
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It was the, the gamble knowing how poor the greens were.
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Um, we saw a lot of cars come in even
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before the first yellow to get off the greens.
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Then we saw the majority of the rest
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of the cars come off the greens at the first yellow.
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What really surprised me was the two cars that didn't,
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and they ended up second and third on the day.
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Yeah. Which is incredible.
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Um, because it, it, it looked at that moment that,
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that was like a complete fumble.
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A completeness. Completeness, yes.
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The way those guys were falling
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through the field just struggling to hang on for dear life,
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holding up traffic three, four seconds off the pace.
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You're like, oh, you guys biffed it, you, you, you went
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for it, you punted and it didn't work.
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And man, did it ever work. So
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60 laps later, here we are, uh, with a, um, Patto win
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and a arena, uh, second and, and Kiff
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and Securus first InCorp podium
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and third, obviously you guys, Al already listened
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to the Tuesday episode with reus.
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But, um, I mean, just a huge shout out to to, I mean,
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him obviously, um, but also Kiffin as well, man.
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Like that's, it's huge. We,
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we talked about it I think last week or two weeks ago.
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Um, kind of the, the role that he's been on, not only
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in races but in qualifying
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and to, to go slap a podium up there, um,
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is is pretty legit.
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I mean, what a what a rate of development.
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Not a, not a easy place to do it either, right?
508
00:21:39.965 --> 00:21:41.335
Like he comes off, it's
509
00:21:41.335 --> 00:21:43.335
Not even like, it's not even like he fluked it either.
510
00:21:43.335 --> 00:21:46.535
Like he had to deal with Colton for 25 laps,
511
00:21:46.535 --> 00:21:48.415
30 laps, trying to close him down. So,
512
00:21:48.675 --> 00:21:50.935
And like he never quite got there.
513
00:21:51.285 --> 00:21:53.975
It's not even like Colton got to the point where,
514
00:21:54.915 --> 00:21:56.015
you know, it's tough to make up.
515
00:21:56.015 --> 00:21:57.455
You're on a guy's gearbox, you're faster,
516
00:21:57.475 --> 00:21:58.775
but it's tough to make the pass.
517
00:21:58.805 --> 00:22:01.215
Like Colton was probably two seconds behind him.
518
00:22:01.335 --> 00:22:02.455
I think that's as close as he got.
519
00:22:03.155 --> 00:22:05.455
So, uh, so yeah, he had to drive if he had to get it done.
520
00:22:05.455 --> 00:22:08.255
Like I said, mid Ohio was a great weekend for Kiffin.
521
00:22:08.515 --> 00:22:11.135
He backed it up here first podium, always cool to see.
522
00:22:11.595 --> 00:22:14.375
Um, cool to see Delco racing back on the podium, you know,
523
00:22:14.375 --> 00:22:18.015
with Reus, um, Patto, that was,
524
00:22:18.115 --> 00:22:20.055
that's really the guy we needed to win the race.
525
00:22:20.315 --> 00:22:22.255
You know, when Paolo's finishing down in 12th,
526
00:22:22.405 --> 00:22:24.335
that helps keep the championship alive.
527
00:22:24.565 --> 00:22:26.135
That is what everybody wants to see.
528
00:22:26.185 --> 00:22:29.375
Minus Palolo, I say alive, I mean mathematically not over.
529
00:22:29.595 --> 00:22:32.895
Yes. Um, so look, it was in a lot
530
00:22:32.895 --> 00:22:34.095
of ways kind of best case scenario.
531
00:22:34.525 --> 00:22:35.855
What was interesting man is like, you know,
532
00:22:35.855 --> 00:22:38.855
we talk about straight courses in 2025 with IndyCar.
533
00:22:39.075 --> 00:22:40.535
You kind of talk about Andretti Global
534
00:22:41.395 --> 00:22:44.495
and they, you know, they had pole, uh,
535
00:22:44.605 --> 00:22:46.895
they had all three cars, I think starting the top eight.
536
00:22:48.295 --> 00:22:50.345
They all kind of went different strategies.
537
00:22:50.455 --> 00:22:53.345
None of them were on the Pado strategy that won the race.
538
00:22:53.895 --> 00:22:56.825
None of them were on the Reus Kiffin strategy
539
00:22:57.015 --> 00:22:58.465
that came second and third.
540
00:22:59.335 --> 00:23:01.225
They all kind of pit at different times
541
00:23:01.445 --> 00:23:03.265
and they ended up fourth, fifth, sixth.
542
00:23:03.685 --> 00:23:07.585
So like still shows like a pretty impressive street course
543
00:23:07.585 --> 00:23:09.665
package that they weren't on the winning strategy
544
00:23:09.765 --> 00:23:10.985
or the second best strategy.
545
00:23:11.375 --> 00:23:12.865
They were all on different strategies
546
00:23:12.865 --> 00:23:13.945
and they still were right there.
547
00:23:14.895 --> 00:23:16.065
It's, it is what, uh,
548
00:23:16.065 --> 00:23:17.705
Brian Herda always said in the beginning.
549
00:23:17.805 --> 00:23:20.385
He was like, if we're fast, it really doesn't matter
550
00:23:20.385 --> 00:23:21.465
what strategy I choose.
551
00:23:21.975 --> 00:23:23.785
Like , if you're fast,
552
00:23:23.935 --> 00:23:25.745
like every strategy looks good sort of thing.
553
00:23:25.745 --> 00:23:28.305
Right, right. Which, which was certainly the case.
554
00:23:28.505 --> 00:23:32.425
I I will say I was, um, IndyCar put out a,
555
00:23:32.585 --> 00:23:35.705
a little stat, I don't know if you saw it with um,
556
00:23:35.895 --> 00:23:39.605
like the street course rankings now that we're done with
557
00:23:39.605 --> 00:23:40.765
that part of the, the season.
558
00:23:41.665 --> 00:23:44.865
Um, obviously Kyle
559
00:23:45.735 --> 00:23:46.875
was the best.
560
00:23:48.055 --> 00:23:49.915
Um, but I would be very interested,
561
00:23:50.275 --> 00:23:51.635
assuming you didn't see this to who,
562
00:23:52.135 --> 00:23:53.835
who do you think filled out the rest
563
00:23:53.835 --> 00:23:55.955
of the top while it's six?
564
00:23:56.505 --> 00:24:00.115
Okay, so it's not below because he had a DNF in Detroit
565
00:24:00.295 --> 00:24:02.595
and he had a 12th in Toronto.
566
00:24:03.935 --> 00:24:06.515
Uh, I mean, reus might be in the top six.
567
00:24:07.575 --> 00:24:09.435
No.
Oh, what about Kiffin?
568
00:24:09.555 --> 00:24:12.515
'cause I know Kiffin had a strong Long Beach. Yeah. Okay.
569
00:24:13.455 --> 00:24:16.475
Kiffin,
Kiffin is in there. Uh,
570
00:24:16.635 --> 00:24:18.955
Colton's in there makes
Sense. That makes sense. Yeah.
571
00:24:19.765 --> 00:24:23.035
Scott Dixon. Dixon because Makes sense.
572
00:24:23.335 --> 00:24:24.995
I'm sure he is in everything. Yeah.
573
00:24:25.095 --> 00:24:27.755
Um, Marcus Erickson surprised. Yeah. He made
574
00:24:27.755 --> 00:24:28.835
It really Okay.
575
00:24:29.375 --> 00:24:32.835
And, and Patto. Okay.
576
00:24:32.975 --> 00:24:34.835
So yeah, I mean, it,
577
00:24:34.865 --> 00:24:38.275
it's very like looking on the year Marcus has had,
578
00:24:38.355 --> 00:24:41.995
I would not have said by any stretch that, like, I thought,
579
00:24:42.115 --> 00:24:43.795
I thought truly Toronto was like his first
580
00:24:43.795 --> 00:24:44.955
result of the year period.
581
00:24:45.155 --> 00:24:46.915
IIII was literally about to say,
582
00:24:46.915 --> 00:24:48.275
well Marcus wouldn't be in there either,
583
00:24:48.655 --> 00:24:49.655
but
.
584
00:24:49.655 --> 00:24:51.355
Right, right. It's just that kind of just goes
585
00:24:51.355 --> 00:24:53.155
to show the year that he's had.
586
00:24:53.375 --> 00:24:54.435
Um, and,
587
00:24:54.575 --> 00:24:56.875
and you, you mentioned something earlier kind
588
00:24:56.875 --> 00:25:00.355
of talking about the luck or lack there of it that I've had.
589
00:25:00.555 --> 00:25:02.355
I also wanna talk about the flip side of it.
590
00:25:02.375 --> 00:25:06.635
So we obviously know like Joseph's had incredibly bad luck.
591
00:25:07.315 --> 00:25:10.955
Horrendous, um, McLaughlin equally so horrendous,
592
00:25:11.655 --> 00:25:13.435
Marcus equally so,
593
00:25:14.055 --> 00:25:16.035
but there has been a lot of guys
594
00:25:16.065 --> 00:25:19.875
that have actually had like really good luck and I,
595
00:25:19.875 --> 00:25:21.315
and I don't mean good luck in, in terms
596
00:25:21.315 --> 00:25:22.875
of getting like good results,
597
00:25:23.495 --> 00:25:26.035
but like there's a quite a few cars this year
598
00:25:26.035 --> 00:25:28.675
that have not d Nfd any race mm-hmm .
599
00:25:28.755 --> 00:25:31.115
And that's, I feel like kind of weird.
600
00:25:31.575 --> 00:25:35.795
Um, you know, usually everyone in the top 10
601
00:25:35.815 --> 00:25:38.435
of the championship and, and we still have four ACEs to go.
602
00:25:38.435 --> 00:25:40.555
Right. But usually everyone in the top 10
603
00:25:40.555 --> 00:25:42.835
of the championship has one
604
00:25:43.535 --> 00:25:47.705
and like there is several cars that don't have any.
605
00:25:48.045 --> 00:25:51.345
And I, I just find that, I find that kind of unique. So, so
606
00:25:51.465 --> 00:25:52.505
I, I have these numbers.
607
00:25:52.675 --> 00:25:54.425
Let's look at this. 'cause this is always one
608
00:25:54.425 --> 00:25:58.145
of my favorite stats to look at is the laps complete.
609
00:25:59.045 --> 00:26:02.025
So only one driver has completed every lap
610
00:26:02.485 --> 00:26:04.385
of the season at Award.
611
00:26:05.325 --> 00:26:07.705
Uh, very close behind is Lard.
612
00:26:08.445 --> 00:26:11.705
Yes.
His teammate, uh, Dixon Daley.
613
00:26:11.805 --> 00:26:16.265
So you have a few guys here that are within kind of 15 laps,
614
00:26:16.815 --> 00:26:18.505
call the 99 percenters.
615
00:26:18.955 --> 00:26:21.345
David Lucas, Graham, Ray Hall, Connor Daley, Scott Dixon,
616
00:26:21.345 --> 00:26:22.625
Christian Lingard Paddle Award. But,
617
00:26:22.625 --> 00:26:23.825
But, but, but that's, but those
618
00:26:23.825 --> 00:26:24.905
are the people I'm talking about.
619
00:26:25.135 --> 00:26:27.385
Like, yeah, this isn't, this is not anything,
620
00:26:27.685 --> 00:26:32.025
I'm not talking anything bad about, um, uh, uh, Lucas,
621
00:26:32.825 --> 00:26:36.195
Connor, whoever else you just said Graham,
622
00:26:36.335 --> 00:26:39.235
but these are, these are cars that you usually have DNFs.
623
00:26:39.235 --> 00:26:40.755
Right? Right. Whether that's mechanical issues
624
00:26:40.775 --> 00:26:43.645
or they get dumped in a corner or they crash or whatever.
625
00:26:43.645 --> 00:26:46.405
Like those are guys you would, at the beginning of the year,
626
00:26:46.505 --> 00:26:48.525
you would expect to have have one.
627
00:26:48.615 --> 00:26:49.805
Right. And they don't.
628
00:26:49.865 --> 00:26:53.525
And that's just, that shows how important consistency is
629
00:26:53.865 --> 00:26:56.245
to having a strong season, having a good year.
630
00:26:56.865 --> 00:27:01.085
Um, and I just, I think that there's, there's
631
00:27:01.985 --> 00:27:04.805
an, it's not quite even this year.
632
00:27:04.955 --> 00:27:07.605
Like you've got guys that have either super bad luck
633
00:27:08.025 --> 00:27:10.645
or you've got guys that have been pretty lucky throughout
634
00:27:10.645 --> 00:27:12.685
the year and then there's really no middle ground.
635
00:27:12.715 --> 00:27:14.605
It's kinda like it's either going well for you
636
00:27:14.605 --> 00:27:16.125
or it is, it's kind of my point.
637
00:27:16.515 --> 00:27:20.165
Yeah. So I, I've got this, this chart that we get as part
638
00:27:20.165 --> 00:27:21.445
of our stats thing.
639
00:27:21.555 --> 00:27:22.725
It's, you can't see here,
640
00:27:23.025 --> 00:27:26.205
but it, it, it lists all the, the DNFs
641
00:27:26.225 --> 00:27:28.605
and it, there's an x if it was a mechanical failure
642
00:27:28.705 --> 00:27:30.005
and a c if it was a crash.
643
00:27:30.745 --> 00:27:34.125
And there are just a lot more markings on this page this
644
00:27:34.125 --> 00:27:35.965
year than what we're used to seeing.
645
00:27:36.505 --> 00:27:40.555
But then these few lines stand out and it is Patto.
646
00:27:40.655 --> 00:27:43.955
It is Christian, it is Conor Santino had he,
647
00:27:44.275 --> 00:27:46.115
I mean he's fallen down on the laps completed
648
00:27:46.115 --> 00:27:49.995
because he didn't, um, obviously start the race in Toronto.
649
00:27:50.055 --> 00:27:52.995
Mm-hmm. Uh, actually let's look at his completed lapse.
650
00:27:53.255 --> 00:27:55.115
But like, but I feel like Armstrong
651
00:27:55.285 --> 00:27:56.795
rosenquist those cars as well.
652
00:27:56.955 --> 00:28:01.155
I, I've, I I just, they haven't had anything bad really.
653
00:28:01.585 --> 00:28:02.835
Well, Felix did in Toronto.
654
00:28:02.985 --> 00:28:04.115
What happened to Felix in Toronto?
655
00:28:04.775 --> 00:28:08.395
Uh, he spun and then Nolan just smoked him.
656
00:28:08.975 --> 00:28:10.115
Oh, dude. On like the,
657
00:28:10.115 --> 00:28:11.995
like last lap, like two laps of ago or whatever. Yeah,
658
00:28:11.995 --> 00:28:12.995
Yeah, yeah.
659
00:28:12.995 --> 00:28:14.795
Well he was dealing with a, with a bit
660
00:28:14.795 --> 00:28:16.075
of a broken front wing
661
00:28:16.175 --> 00:28:18.675
and he had like, his wing got broken on lap one
662
00:28:18.675 --> 00:28:21.115
and he just drove around with an injured car all day long.
663
00:28:21.195 --> 00:28:23.795
I kind of felt bad for him. Um, but yes.
664
00:28:23.895 --> 00:28:26.155
So we'd be remiss without talking about Patto
665
00:28:26.155 --> 00:28:27.955
because we sort of talked about second or third,
666
00:28:28.015 --> 00:28:30.795
but props to him for making it happen.
667
00:28:31.415 --> 00:28:33.435
Uh, I liked the strategy call that they did.
668
00:28:33.545 --> 00:28:36.595
Same kind of thing that co uh, Colton did, um,
669
00:28:37.325 --> 00:28:40.835
right off the bat with the starting on the alternates
670
00:28:40.835 --> 00:28:42.515
and getting him off for that first caution.
671
00:28:43.335 --> 00:28:46.955
Um, Toronto held true to having cautions early and often,
672
00:28:47.895 --> 00:28:50.115
but Locklin's deal was a tough break for him.
673
00:28:50.815 --> 00:28:52.595
New gardens deal was a tough break for him.
674
00:28:52.955 --> 00:28:54.035
I still cannot believe, man,
675
00:28:54.035 --> 00:28:56.595
that Penske don't have a result.
676
00:28:56.675 --> 00:28:57.915
I mean, I think I saw there's like
677
00:28:58.425 --> 00:28:59.715
between all three drivers,
678
00:28:59.975 --> 00:29:03.355
the best driver on the team has four finishes worse than
679
00:29:03.355 --> 00:29:04.355
like 24th
680
00:29:04.975 --> 00:29:06.675
Or No, it's, I saw, I saw a chart
681
00:29:07.135 --> 00:29:08.315
and I forget who put it out,
682
00:29:08.415 --> 00:29:12.595
but they were like, do you think, like the question was is,
683
00:29:12.655 --> 00:29:15.835
is Penske having a generationally bad season?
684
00:29:16.055 --> 00:29:18.475
Yes. And it looked at like, the past 25 years
685
00:29:18.935 --> 00:29:20.955
and like the dots are all kind of like this
686
00:29:21.055 --> 00:29:22.795
and then they are up here for a while.
687
00:29:23.295 --> 00:29:27.715
The dot for this year is like subterranean, like it's, it is
688
00:29:27.775 --> 00:29:31.835
so far beyond anything they've had
689
00:29:31.835 --> 00:29:33.075
before in terms of badness.
690
00:29:33.835 --> 00:29:36.395
I would, I would be interested to learn and I'll,
691
00:29:36.395 --> 00:29:38.235
and this will be something I talked about this weekend
692
00:29:38.235 --> 00:29:40.075
because it's one of the things I brought up in our
693
00:29:40.075 --> 00:29:43.485
production meeting, but like, like has Penske ever had a
694
00:29:43.485 --> 00:29:47.025
winless year and when was it like, especially
695
00:29:47.025 --> 00:29:48.305
with three cars, you know,
696
00:29:48.305 --> 00:29:49.625
like we're not talking about two cars.
697
00:29:49.625 --> 00:29:50.745
We had two chances every weekend.
698
00:29:50.745 --> 00:29:52.425
We got three chances every weekend.
699
00:29:52.885 --> 00:29:54.505
And here's the thing, it's not a pace issue.
700
00:29:54.505 --> 00:29:56.185
They've had several weekends where they should have won
701
00:29:57.405 --> 00:30:00.625
and with multiple drivers and it just didn't happen.
702
00:30:00.885 --> 00:30:03.585
And that's, you look, that's, that's racing. That's IndyCar.
703
00:30:03.585 --> 00:30:07.025
It is what it is. But like to go an entire 17 race season
704
00:30:07.025 --> 00:30:09.145
with three cars and not have a
705
00:30:09.145 --> 00:30:10.185
single win at the end of the year.
706
00:30:11.955 --> 00:30:15.535
My God, you know, I'd, I'm gonna be floored if
707
00:30:15.535 --> 00:30:16.855
that happens. I mean, but I
708
00:30:16.855 --> 00:30:19.815
Mean there would, there would definitely be butts on the
709
00:30:19.815 --> 00:30:21.695
line if there were butts left.
710
00:30:21.965 --> 00:30:24.255
There's no butts just gonna say there's no
711
00:30:24.345 --> 00:30:25.415
butts left, man. ,
712
00:30:26.635 --> 00:30:29.735
that's gonna be gonna be wild. Yeah.
713
00:30:29.735 --> 00:30:32.295
Uh, and Powers, you know, the top of the charts for the team
714
00:30:32.295 --> 00:30:34.495
and he is the one that apparently is on the chopping block
715
00:30:34.495 --> 00:30:36.135
from an employment standpoint.
716
00:30:36.395 --> 00:30:39.895
But that one I don't entirely understand.
717
00:30:40.715 --> 00:30:43.495
But uh, look, I still think he's got Pace.
718
00:30:43.575 --> 00:30:44.975
I still like he's got race wins in him.
719
00:30:46.085 --> 00:30:49.545
I don't know why you would replace him, but is what it is.
720
00:30:50.405 --> 00:30:51.945
One thing I do just want to touch on,
721
00:30:52.255 --> 00:30:54.425
because I saw a lot of comments post
722
00:30:55.375 --> 00:30:57.265
race on the interwebs.
723
00:30:57.925 --> 00:31:02.625
So we as Fox as the TV broadcast
724
00:31:03.285 --> 00:31:04.625
missed one of the restarts
725
00:31:04.645 --> 00:31:08.185
and it was the restart where Joseph and Jacob got together.
726
00:31:08.525 --> 00:31:12.025
So we were on a commercial break, went green, we missed
727
00:31:12.025 --> 00:31:14.185
that, there's an accident turned one we missed that.
728
00:31:14.245 --> 00:31:15.585
We come back from commercial
729
00:31:16.285 --> 00:31:19.225
and you're just staring at Abel's car on top of Newgard.
730
00:31:20.175 --> 00:31:22.075
And a lot of people were very upset about the
731
00:31:22.075 --> 00:31:23.195
fact that we missed the restart.
732
00:31:24.585 --> 00:31:28.665
I would like to say one thing from like a bit of a,
733
00:31:28.965 --> 00:31:30.865
in like a bit of a, just kind of a way,
734
00:31:31.085 --> 00:31:33.385
but like it needs to be said.
735
00:31:33.705 --> 00:31:35.545
'cause I've done it. We've all done it. Everyone's done it.
736
00:31:36.285 --> 00:31:39.425
If you've never produced a Motorsports broadcast,
737
00:31:39.715 --> 00:31:42.625
maybe just throttle back on the vitriolic language
738
00:31:43.255 --> 00:31:45.905
when you have an issue, if there's something you wanna say,
739
00:31:45.925 --> 00:31:47.025
by all means have an opinion.
740
00:31:47.125 --> 00:31:48.865
But like, if you've never done it, kind
741
00:31:48.865 --> 00:31:51.065
of like a little bit just calm <inaudible> down.
742
00:31:51.085 --> 00:31:53.985
You know what I mean? Uh, I think it's important
743
00:31:53.985 --> 00:31:55.705
to understand there's a lot of things that go on
744
00:31:55.705 --> 00:31:57.665
behind the scenes that people don't realize.
745
00:31:58.605 --> 00:32:00.705
And if we count all the cautions
746
00:32:00.885 --> 00:32:03.745
and all the restarts that have happened in IndyCar in 2025,
747
00:32:04.335 --> 00:32:05.545
it's the first one we've missed.
748
00:32:06.085 --> 00:32:07.985
Uh, and there's a reason for it. Right?
749
00:32:08.055 --> 00:32:10.265
It's not something that we just do arbitrarily.
750
00:32:10.475 --> 00:32:14.625
There was an issue that caused that particular situation.
751
00:32:15.045 --> 00:32:17.105
We know it, it's not what we, you know,
752
00:32:17.105 --> 00:32:18.385
we obviously aim to not do that.
753
00:32:18.805 --> 00:32:20.065
We know exactly what happened.
754
00:32:20.445 --> 00:32:21.745
We effort every weekend
755
00:32:21.765 --> 00:32:23.105
to make sure those things don't happen.
756
00:32:23.685 --> 00:32:24.945
So like, just relax.
757
00:32:25.605 --> 00:32:28.345
We also have replay machines, so like, calm down, it's fine.
758
00:32:29.085 --> 00:32:31.185
Uh, I just needed to get that out there.
759
00:32:31.345 --> 00:32:33.265
'cause it's annoying when people kind of go
760
00:32:33.265 --> 00:32:36.665
after a group when they don't really know what's going on.
761
00:32:37.515 --> 00:32:39.845
I'm sure I've done it, so I'm gonna stand up and own that.
762
00:32:39.905 --> 00:32:43.005
But also I'm trying to let everybody know that we're aware
763
00:32:43.065 --> 00:32:45.085
of what happened and it was not intentional.
764
00:32:46.065 --> 00:32:47.245
We try to make sure it never happens,
765
00:32:47.625 --> 00:32:51.205
but just, just half, just half cup of, you know,
766
00:32:51.265 --> 00:32:53.005
of backing off from where you guys are.
767
00:32:53.505 --> 00:32:55.035
That's all I gotta say about that. So,
768
00:32:56.675 --> 00:32:57.675
Honest question.
769
00:32:58.155 --> 00:33:02.115
Um, how, how does that happen?
770
00:33:02.615 --> 00:33:04.315
I'm just curious. Like what sequence
771
00:33:04.315 --> 00:33:06.365
of events needs to happen?
772
00:33:06.365 --> 00:33:10.325
Because I mean, you have race control, you know,
773
00:33:11.235 --> 00:33:13.525
when this, it's ending and going green
774
00:33:14.345 --> 00:33:18.365
and it's not like a 15 second heads up, like it's minutes.
775
00:33:19.105 --> 00:33:21.285
So I, I'm just curious like
776
00:33:21.285 --> 00:33:22.845
what has to occur for that to happen?
777
00:33:24.345 --> 00:33:24.565
Uh,
778
00:33:27.665 --> 00:33:29.565
so you plead the fifth .
779
00:33:31.045 --> 00:33:32.805
I just plead the fifth a little bit. It
780
00:33:32.805 --> 00:33:33.925
Was like someone, was it like, I
781
00:33:33.925 --> 00:33:36.285
Don't need to, it was a miscommunication. It it was a
782
00:33:36.285 --> 00:33:37.205
Miscommunication. Someone was in the bathroom,
783
00:33:37.815 --> 00:33:39.045
There was a miscommunication. The
784
00:33:39.045 --> 00:33:40.325
Guy with the green green button
785
00:33:40.505 --> 00:33:42.405
wasn't in the room for some reason. Okay.
786
00:33:42.415 --> 00:33:43.685
We're gonna, we're gonna go with,
787
00:33:43.685 --> 00:33:44.805
it was a miscommunication.
788
00:33:45.185 --> 00:33:48.085
Uh, there is a system in place that is supposed to avoid
789
00:33:48.085 --> 00:33:49.285
that thing from happening.
790
00:33:49.865 --> 00:33:53.365
And there was a breakdown in communication somewhere along
791
00:33:53.365 --> 00:33:55.365
the lines and that's what led to that.
792
00:33:55.455 --> 00:33:56.885
Right? Unfortunate follow
793
00:33:56.885 --> 00:33:57.885
Up.
794
00:33:57.885 --> 00:33:59.965
Yes. Alex,
Are there butts on the
795
00:33:59.965 --> 00:34:00.965
line?
?
796
00:34:03.035 --> 00:34:04.045
Dude, this is Motorsport.
797
00:34:04.045 --> 00:34:05.805
There's always butts on the line. Hell
798
00:34:05.805 --> 00:34:06.805
Yeah.
799
00:34:07.225 --> 00:34:08.885
That's how it works. Yeah.
800
00:34:09.145 --> 00:34:11.925
Um, anyway, that, that all side.
801
00:34:12.025 --> 00:34:15.405
So, uh, Laguna la Guana this weekend.
802
00:34:15.405 --> 00:34:16.725
You're out there early because
803
00:34:16.725 --> 00:34:19.325
of the Java House 200 or whatever it's called.
804
00:34:19.435 --> 00:34:20.725
Java House Grand Prix. What is it called?
805
00:34:21.115 --> 00:34:23.245
It's not the 200.
I don't know.
806
00:34:23.285 --> 00:34:24.445
I was just throwing out words.
807
00:34:24.675 --> 00:34:26.485
It's the Java House Grand Prix in Monterey.
808
00:34:27.105 --> 00:34:28.685
All right. All right. That's why I asked.
809
00:34:28.685 --> 00:34:30.285
That's what you're, that's what you're here for.
810
00:34:31.025 --> 00:34:33.005
Are we excited? How do we feel about Laguna?
811
00:34:34.185 --> 00:34:35.965
We feel great. I love this track.
812
00:34:36.115 --> 00:34:38.085
It's, it's my, it is my home track.
813
00:34:38.465 --> 00:34:40.245
Um, it's a track that I was introduced
814
00:34:40.245 --> 00:34:42.125
to motor sports on track.
815
00:34:42.245 --> 00:34:45.005
I grew up coming to with my dad. Um, how
816
00:34:45.005 --> 00:34:46.525
Old were you the first time you came here? When
817
00:34:46.525 --> 00:34:47.525
I was three.
818
00:34:47.525 --> 00:34:48.965
So 94. Um, wow.
819
00:34:49.585 --> 00:34:51.205
For the IndyCar race, for the cart
820
00:34:51.205 --> 00:34:52.245
race, whatever it was. Cart
821
00:34:52.245 --> 00:34:53.245
Race, car race.
822
00:34:53.245 --> 00:34:54.045
Yeah. Car race. Yeah. Okay.
823
00:34:54.465 --> 00:34:58.285
Um, max Pappas was my favorite driver as a kid,
824
00:34:58.375 --> 00:35:01.095
which is Wild.
825
00:35:01.635 --> 00:35:03.015
Ben. It's Ben.
826
00:35:03.045 --> 00:35:04.735
He's Ben's favorite driver too, believe it or not.
827
00:35:04.735 --> 00:35:09.115
There you go. Um, and always
828
00:35:09.275 --> 00:35:10.555
qualified really well here.
829
00:35:10.855 --> 00:35:14.835
Um, I think I was told I've been the fast six four times
830
00:35:14.905 --> 00:35:18.995
here, um, since we came back in 19, but only one podium.
831
00:35:19.415 --> 00:35:22.235
So needs to be a bit better in said races,
832
00:35:22.335 --> 00:35:25.195
but also some of these races are just a complete
833
00:35:25.455 --> 00:35:29.275
and utter show of a, of an event.
834
00:35:29.495 --> 00:35:31.595
Um, yeah, in terms of yellow flags and,
835
00:35:31.615 --> 00:35:32.675
and crashes and everything.
836
00:35:32.955 --> 00:35:34.755
I think with our new restart rules and,
837
00:35:34.755 --> 00:35:37.325
and all that sort of jazz will be much better.
838
00:35:37.705 --> 00:35:40.045
Um, so I don't expect a race like that.
839
00:35:40.665 --> 00:35:43.985
Um, the, the team was pretty good here last year
840
00:35:44.365 --> 00:35:48.015
and the good lord knows we need a, we need a good result
841
00:35:48.075 --> 00:35:49.815
and no better time to do that than
842
00:35:50.515 --> 00:35:52.975
my home race slash the title sponsor
843
00:35:53.755 --> 00:35:56.335
of the race is on my car. So
844
00:35:56.885 --> 00:35:58.975
Anytime that
Extra motivation all around
845
00:35:59.895 --> 00:36:01.135
A car sponsored
846
00:36:01.155 --> 00:36:03.015
by the title sponsor of the race does well.
847
00:36:03.255 --> 00:36:07.335
I scream fix, I always have and I always will. Uh, and I, I
848
00:36:08.145 --> 00:36:09.975
Gimme 50 years horsepower, please.
849
00:36:09.975 --> 00:36:11.655
Yeah. . Yeah. Don't care.
850
00:36:12.375 --> 00:36:15.975
I will not be mad if that is the case, uh, this time. Hmm.
851
00:36:16.075 --> 00:36:17.975
Uh alright, that's great. I'm glad that, I'm glad
852
00:36:17.975 --> 00:36:19.255
that you're excited about it and,
853
00:36:19.255 --> 00:36:20.295
and hopefully it goes well.
854
00:36:20.795 --> 00:36:22.855
Um, what the people really wanna know is
855
00:36:22.915 --> 00:36:25.015
how was Ben's first flight?
856
00:36:25.275 --> 00:36:28.495
He did great, man. Um, yeah, yeah, he did good.
857
00:36:28.915 --> 00:36:33.435
He, yeah, no dramas. But I also feel like
858
00:36:33.555 --> 00:36:35.195
Everyone was he, was he like, was he quiet?
859
00:36:35.415 --> 00:36:36.915
Was he fussy?
860
00:36:37.015 --> 00:36:39.155
Was he, or did he just sleep for four hours and
861
00:36:39.705 --> 00:36:42.475
Just sometimes awake, but mostly asleep. That's,
862
00:36:42.815 --> 00:36:44.435
That's gonna lull you into a sense
863
00:36:44.435 --> 00:36:45.515
of security. No, it doesn't. The first
864
00:36:45.775 --> 00:36:46.775
Two years doesn't.
865
00:36:46.775 --> 00:36:48.395
No, it doesn't. I know that. Super easy. Everyone said it's
866
00:36:48.395 --> 00:36:50.915
super easy in the game because all they do is eat and sleep.
867
00:36:51.215 --> 00:36:52.835
No, I'm well aware when they're a toddler
868
00:36:53.055 --> 00:36:55.315
and they have opinions, it goes to hell because
869
00:36:55.605 --> 00:36:56.835
Hazel at elevens hard. I'll
870
00:36:56.835 --> 00:36:57.835
Be flying him.
871
00:36:57.835 --> 00:36:59.595
No, Hazel's perfect. Don't lie.
872
00:37:00.005 --> 00:37:02.075
She's actually, yeah, she's really easy to fly with.
873
00:37:02.335 --> 00:37:03.475
Was she ever a bad fly?
874
00:37:03.475 --> 00:37:04.635
Like did she go through a phase
875
00:37:04.635 --> 00:37:06.555
where fly was a absolutely terrible
876
00:37:06.565 --> 00:37:07.565
Thing?
877
00:37:07.565 --> 00:37:09.115
Yeah, like three and four. Three and four is rough. Well,
878
00:37:09.315 --> 00:37:12.235
Remember, remember that was when he abandoned all
879
00:37:12.235 --> 00:37:14.395
of his screen time rules was on airplanes
880
00:37:14.395 --> 00:37:15.755
because he was just like, yes, whatever.
881
00:37:15.755 --> 00:37:17.555
You need to keep your true.
882
00:37:18.125 --> 00:37:20.075
Great point.
Although I'll say the one thing
883
00:37:20.075 --> 00:37:21.475
that it changed was like,
884
00:37:22.115 --> 00:37:24.675
I am no longer bothered at all if there's a sleep, uh,
885
00:37:24.675 --> 00:37:26.635
crying baby on a plane. Yeah.
886
00:37:26.705 --> 00:37:28.035
Like
I, the only
887
00:37:28.035 --> 00:37:30.395
Emotion I feel is I feel sorry for those parents.
888
00:37:30.905 --> 00:37:33.195
Yeah. I'm not upset. I'm not annoyed.
889
00:37:33.465 --> 00:37:35.715
Yeah. I kind of default to that now too,
890
00:37:35.715 --> 00:37:37.075
because like the only person
891
00:37:37.735 --> 00:37:40.635
who is hating it worse than you is the person
892
00:37:40.885 --> 00:37:42.595
who's, who owns the kid .
893
00:37:43.545 --> 00:37:46.155
Like, 'cause they're also having to hear it,
894
00:37:46.295 --> 00:37:48.155
but also it's their responsibility
895
00:37:48.175 --> 00:37:49.275
and they are carrying the weight
896
00:37:49.375 --> 00:37:51.915
of all 163 passengers on board.
897
00:37:51.915 --> 00:37:54.155
Yeah. So, yeah. I I'm with you on that one.
898
00:37:54.225 --> 00:37:56.475
It's, it's hard to get mad at that scenario. Yeah.
899
00:37:56.795 --> 00:38:00.435
I don't know why, why, uh, Alex is not on board.
900
00:38:00.565 --> 00:38:04.275
She's like, shut that kid off 10
901
00:38:04.275 --> 00:38:05.435
times outta 10. He's like, shut that. I
902
00:38:05.435 --> 00:38:07.355
Know there's ways
Why,
903
00:38:07.855 --> 00:38:10.235
why was this the first race you wanted to,
904
00:38:10.255 --> 00:38:11.755
or first flight you wanted to bring him to?
905
00:38:11.895 --> 00:38:13.995
Why make the trek out to California Will? Because
906
00:38:14.175 --> 00:38:16.595
We are staying after, uh,
907
00:38:16.595 --> 00:38:19.315
because, uh, it's a late birthday
908
00:38:20.105 --> 00:38:22.275
trip slash present from my dad.
909
00:38:22.775 --> 00:38:27.075
Um, he got us, uh,
910
00:38:27.215 --> 00:38:30.475
on Pebble, so we're gonna go play Pebble on Monday.
911
00:38:30.545 --> 00:38:32.395
Nice. Oh, very cool. Which is pretty cool.
912
00:38:32.775 --> 00:38:34.755
Um, I'm nowhere near good enough
913
00:38:35.025 --> 00:38:36.325
as a golf if you need any tips.
914
00:38:37.075 --> 00:38:38.725
I've played it five or six times.
915
00:38:39.745 --> 00:38:41.045
All right. All right. Mr. In
916
00:38:41.045 --> 00:38:42.805
Fact, the majority of my golf
917
00:38:44.425 --> 00:38:48.525
has been at Pebble an overwhelming majority. Yeah.
918
00:38:48.635 --> 00:38:50.325
Yeah. Well that's nice for you. Yeah.
919
00:38:50.325 --> 00:38:52.205
Yeah. I've only played three rounds of golf.
920
00:38:52.545 --> 00:38:53.565
Not at Pebble,
921
00:38:54.635 --> 00:38:55.635
So, okay.
922
00:38:55.635 --> 00:38:56.975
Alright. Cool. Your jets.
923
00:38:56.975 --> 00:39:00.925
Yeah, there. Watch out for seven. It's a doozy eight.
924
00:39:01.145 --> 00:39:02.405
You don't know what you're talking about.
925
00:39:02.925 --> 00:39:04.605
I don't, there's, I parked one of them though.
926
00:39:04.865 --> 00:39:06.045
You, you can do it. It's really,
927
00:39:06.185 --> 00:39:07.725
you could probably actually bird it
928
00:39:07.885 --> 00:39:10.005
'cause it's like 120 yards
929
00:39:10.185 --> 00:39:13.045
and it's like downhill for like, oh yeah.
930
00:39:13.425 --> 00:39:15.485
And you just like, you like ship it onto the green
931
00:39:15.485 --> 00:39:18.125
and then put it in par three beauty. Yeah.
932
00:39:18.125 --> 00:39:19.725
I've been, I've been to a car show
933
00:39:19.725 --> 00:39:20.845
there. Does that count for anything?
934
00:39:21.345 --> 00:39:22.845
No, I'm actually jealous. 'cause that's
935
00:39:22.845 --> 00:39:24.685
what I would rather do there and I've not done that. .
936
00:39:26.065 --> 00:39:27.805
Did you go to like the actual concourse?
937
00:39:28.155 --> 00:39:29.765
Yeah. That's pretty cool.
938
00:39:30.755 --> 00:39:34.325
When you
Friend Ed was my friend. Ed was MCing it.
939
00:39:34.625 --> 00:39:38.725
Uh, that would've been like 20 11, 20 10.
940
00:39:39.305 --> 00:39:41.525
That's cool. Do you know what these celebrate?
941
00:39:41.525 --> 00:39:43.805
Do you remember what the celebrated mark was that year?
942
00:39:44.245 --> 00:39:46.245
I think a Dusenberg, uh,
943
00:39:46.355 --> 00:39:48.365
Juan Best in show or whatever it was.
944
00:39:48.915 --> 00:39:52.435
They would, those doozies
I like do and Berks.
945
00:39:53.175 --> 00:39:55.035
So, so do I. Um,
You would,
946
00:39:55.735 --> 00:39:57.835
Is it weird to anybody else that like,
947
00:39:57.965 --> 00:39:59.195
we're almost done this year?
948
00:39:59.535 --> 00:40:02.355
It is really weird.
Does it? I guess it's really weird.
949
00:40:02.355 --> 00:40:03.475
We're not even in August yet.
950
00:40:03.535 --> 00:40:04.995
We have four races left and then we're,
951
00:40:05.075 --> 00:40:07.195
I mean it's just, it's That's dumb.
952
00:40:07.615 --> 00:40:09.915
That's really dumb. Becauses.
953
00:40:10.355 --> 00:40:13.795
Everyone in the entire paddock is like torched right now
954
00:40:13.905 --> 00:40:15.195
because the stretch.
955
00:40:15.215 --> 00:40:19.035
Yes,
Dude. But then also everyone is like, wait,
956
00:40:20.255 --> 00:40:23.315
you mean we get a weekend off and then it's two back to back
957
00:40:23.335 --> 00:40:25.955
and then it's weekend off done and then it's over.
958
00:40:26.745 --> 00:40:30.195
Like, then what are we supposed to do? It's just right.
959
00:40:31.155 --> 00:40:33.355
I mean, I, there there's gotta be,
960
00:40:33.465 --> 00:40:35.195
there's gotta be a better way of doing this.
961
00:40:35.575 --> 00:40:38.115
Um, this is not the episode for it.
962
00:40:38.355 --> 00:40:39.835
'cause we got seven months
963
00:40:39.835 --> 00:40:41.195
of an off season to talk about it.
964
00:40:41.655 --> 00:40:44.915
But like , I just, it
965
00:40:48.275 --> 00:40:50.215
it is not working the way we're doing it.
966
00:40:50.515 --> 00:40:53.935
So would it really be that much worse if we changed it
967
00:40:53.935 --> 00:40:57.215
around, I guess is, is the, the thought that I have
968
00:40:57.235 --> 00:40:59.335
and we don't need to get into it and I'll leave it at that.
969
00:40:59.955 --> 00:41:03.805
Um, but I just, it it's sad.
970
00:41:04.035 --> 00:41:06.725
It's really sad to think that all of this grind
971
00:41:06.825 --> 00:41:09.885
and all of the effort and, and money
972
00:41:10.145 --> 00:41:12.925
and time away from people's families and,
973
00:41:12.945 --> 00:41:13.965
and all that sort of thing.
974
00:41:14.075 --> 00:41:16.685
It's all just gonna come to an end here in four weeks.
975
00:41:16.985 --> 00:41:18.565
And like, you don't enjoy it
976
00:41:18.565 --> 00:41:21.645
because it's just, it's so much, so much effort
977
00:41:21.785 --> 00:41:24.605
to go from event to event to event to event to event
978
00:41:25.225 --> 00:41:29.605
all on the back of the 500 with, with like one week off in
979
00:41:29.605 --> 00:41:30.805
between six events.
980
00:41:30.925 --> 00:41:34.005
I think it is. And it's just like in
981
00:41:34.005 --> 00:41:35.645
that moment it's really hard to appreciate
982
00:41:35.645 --> 00:41:38.565
what you're doing, but then you get to this point
983
00:41:38.655 --> 00:41:40.525
where it's like, oh my God, we only have four left.
984
00:41:40.525 --> 00:41:43.205
And you're like, oh, this is really, this is really,
985
00:41:43.865 --> 00:41:45.005
and then like, how do you keep
986
00:41:45.005 --> 00:41:46.365
any momentum? And I just, I don't
987
00:41:46.365 --> 00:41:49.325
Know what I wanna, like, I'm curious and we're outta time,
988
00:41:49.425 --> 00:41:52.685
but like NASCAR do this 36 times
989
00:41:52.905 --> 00:41:54.365
and they have like two weeks off,
990
00:41:54.845 --> 00:41:57.445
I think two weekends off basically from Daytona
991
00:41:57.665 --> 00:42:00.365
to wherever they end their season are.
992
00:42:01.355 --> 00:42:02.455
Is it the same for them?
993
00:42:02.525 --> 00:42:04.375
Like are we, are we missing something?
994
00:42:04.475 --> 00:42:06.335
Do they just have like different teams on the road
995
00:42:06.335 --> 00:42:07.695
that don't have to go back to the shop?
996
00:42:07.695 --> 00:42:11.775
Or like, or are they just so used to that lifestyle
997
00:42:11.805 --> 00:42:13.015
that that is what it is?
998
00:42:13.035 --> 00:42:16.655
And for us, because it's a fairly big shift this year from
999
00:42:16.655 --> 00:42:18.975
what the schedule was last year
1000
00:42:19.035 --> 00:42:21.255
and has been for the last couple decades,
1001
00:42:21.965 --> 00:42:23.775
that it's like hitting everybody a little harder.
1002
00:42:24.085 --> 00:42:27.775
Well, I think it's, I think it's, it's what you're used
1003
00:42:27.775 --> 00:42:28.895
to versus not.
1004
00:42:29.315 --> 00:42:30.575
But also, and
1005
00:42:30.595 --> 00:42:35.335
and having worked with Kyle, um, last May, the,
1006
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the NASCAR weekends are way less intensive
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than an IndyCar weekend. Yeah,
1008
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I have heard that.
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Yeah. Um, the drivers, there's no meetings, there's no,
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there's no real appearances.
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00:42:46.045 --> 00:42:49.895
There's no, there's no mandatory anything. Right?
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00:42:49.965 --> 00:42:53.255
Like it's kind of, they show up at the last possible minute,
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um, they jump in the car and then they leave immediately.
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So while the work
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that they're doing on the racetrack is very intense
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and very challenging and strenuous
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and everything, it's such a, a fraction of the event.
1018
00:43:09.035 --> 00:43:11.795
They're not, it's not a four day weekend for them. Yeah.
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00:43:11.795 --> 00:43:14.515
They're not showing up on a Thursday and Dick around all
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Day.
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00:43:15.515 --> 00:43:15.715
If you, you flew out on a We
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Friday afternoon,
You flew out on a Wednesday
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and you're gonna be busy all day Thursday, all day Friday,
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00:43:20.695 --> 00:43:23.395
all day Saturday, all day Sunday spent all day flying home.
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00:43:23.395 --> 00:43:26.315
Monday you'll get Tuesday at home. Uh, you know, like it's,
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. So that's, I think that's really the kicker.
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If you showed up Saturday morning,
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did a practice qualified race Sunday,
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and we're back in your house by 7:00 PM
1031
00:43:39.035 --> 00:43:40.475
I think it's a different conversation. Yeah.
1032
00:43:40.475 --> 00:43:43.035
Maybe, maybe. Cool. Well, all right.
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Uh, I'll see you out there momentarily. Um,
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Oh no.
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Well, on that noise and note, we will head out
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and we will talk to you guys next week. ,
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