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This is, is off track.
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What's up?
Hello, Timothy?
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Here we are again. Uh, while James is <inaudible> in Japan.
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We're just anchoring this whole show ourselves back home.
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I like to think we're the, like we're the
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steady part of this show.
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He's just that kind of errand thing that comes in
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and out, really the core.
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Do I know it's annoying. Do I know it's annoying.
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Is like, as much as I like to think that I am good at this,
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like James is pretty much the reason
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that you're successful . So,
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I don't know.
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I think it's, it's a good interplay between you two.
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'cause I don't think it'd be good if it was just him.
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I don't think it'd be good if it was just you.
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I think it'd be great if it was just me.
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Right, right. The internet definitely seemed
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to agree with that last week.
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Um, well, it's a, it's a Tuesday.
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Um, James understandably is, is unavailable.
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Uh, we're not gonna give him too hard of a time for it.
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But I think you, you, you messaged me the other day
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and you asked a question and I thought it was a very good
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question and a valid question.
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Um, what do, what do you do in the sim?
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Like, what is, what does a sim day look like?
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Um, and I think that's, that's very fair.
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Uh, and the honest answer is it has evolved a lot.
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So, you know, these scenario are, it's die racing all day.
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Right, right, right.
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Well, with Mario Kart, really , um,
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and maybe that's where I've gone wrong.
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I've digressed too far away from the Mario Kart
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and tried to take this too seriously.
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I mean, I'll, I'll be back in India in a couple weeks.
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I can help you out there. All right.
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We can, we can get back to it. . Um, so, um,
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that just reminds me of the gift that you made me,
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which is just incredible and I
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can't wait to bring it home anyways.
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Um, so Sims have, sims have,
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have been a thing in motor sports for, I mean, going on,
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I would say two plus decades now.
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Um, you know, was, was really common in Formula One, uh,
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and has come to really all form of motorsports, whether
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that's IndyCar Cup, um, which is thought
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to be not very technologically advanced,
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but it obviously is.
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Im a, I mean it's even Formula Two teams,
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formula Three teams, formula E.
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Everyone is using simulation now.
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And the reason for it is, as, as we're well aware, you know,
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the cost of of motor sports is pretty high.
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Um, all championships including Formula One have restricted
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the amount of in-season
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and um, off season testing that a team can do.
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So what's the next best thing?
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Simulate the testing and the car being on the track.
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And the problem with that is getting something
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that is close enough that you are confident in.
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And I'm not saying close enough from a,
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from a motion standpoint, you know, we're all very aware
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of the fact that you're never gonna be able
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to replicate the GForce.
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You're never gonna be able to replicate, you know,
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the vibrations and um, obviously the penalty of,
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of getting it wrong in the sim.
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But what you can do hopefully
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is develop a tire model that is good enough
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to support on track changes.
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And, and without getting too far into the weeds,
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if you think about a Indy car race weekend, you've got two
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essentially 45 minute practice sessions.
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Um, it goes straight into qualifying,
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then you have a 30 minute warmup and then you have the race.
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And so it's really not a huge amount
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of track time throughout the weekend.
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Um, there's also not a abundance of tires
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and you know, as we've all talked about the tires this year
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in particular where pretty quickly, so it's very hard
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to get many changes in throughout the weekend.
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you've got a lot of cars on track, you've got tires
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that are changing in grip every time you leave pit lane.
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And so if you show up to a race weekend
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and think, okay, these are the 10 things that I want to try
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and accomplish, you know, to get the car in the window
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for qualifying, that's impossible.
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Like there's no way you're gonna do it.
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So where the SIM comes into play is you can take a test list
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of 30 things and very quickly, you know,
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eliminate stuff that's bad.
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You know, you're not gonna, you're not gonna go
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to the simulator, spend a day there
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and develop a setup that you're gonna
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start the weekend with.
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But what you will do is you'll take a baseline setup
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and you'll know
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that these 15 changes we know are gonna be <inaudible>.
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So we're not even gonna waste our time trying
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to address whatever problem we have in reality
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with those changes because we already crossed 'em off the
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list in the sim on.
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So wait, it's, hang on.
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It's an incredibly useful tool for that. Yes.
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So it, it's, it's basically testing.
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Like if you're making changes to the car making changes
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to the tires, what's gonna not work?
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I mean, I mean this with every bit of respect that's due,
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why are you there for that?
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Right? Can't they just have a computer program run a
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simulation of the car without you in the sim
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and see what works and doesn't work? So
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That's, that's great question.
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We have that as well. So that's, that's an offline sim.
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Um, but the offline sim and,
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and really that's running at all times.
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I mean, we use that as a tool on the race weekend.
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You know, that's especially what you use it, you use it
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for overnight changes, right?
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It's like, okay, alright, we've got these four problems.
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We need to figure out a way to, you know,
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improve the car balance here,
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but not like ruin all of the good things that are happening.
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The offline sim is a driver
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that is ultimately the perfect driver.
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there's not the human element to it,
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which is both a good thing and a bad thing.
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It's a good thing because you're getting something
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to replicate a lap identically every single time.
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It's a bad thing
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because for example, if the
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sim if the sim driver, the fake robot driver mm-hmm .
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Crashes, then he dials back the performance.
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Whereas a real driver, they might realize
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that in this corner there's parameters
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and reasons why they can't push as hard
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as they can in the other 16 corners.
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So the real driver will still always be quicker
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because if a sim driver is going offline,
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if the SIM driver's locking up tires
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or whatever, they're gonna back it up
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really for the whole lap.
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They don't have the ability necessarily,
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you can't program in the, the human computing part of,
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okay, well just because he had a lock up here.
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I mean you can, but it hasn't made its way
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to indie car offline simulation.
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Yeah. So, um, and then the other, the other thing is,
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and this is talked about a lot in Formula One, especially
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around this whole tappin, you know, concept
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and dilemma, is that a car
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that is optimized in the wind tunnel,
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in the offline sim in the shaker rig might be a car that is
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so difficult to drive
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that the driver's not gonna have any confidence in it.
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And so even though you might be giving up,
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let's call it two-tenths, three-tenths of ultimate lap time,
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by making something that has a bigger window,
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the driver's gonna far exceed that gain of two
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or three-tenths just
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because they have the confidence to rag <inaudible>
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and to push it harder.
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So that's where the element
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of the driver being involved is very important in the,
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what's called driver in the loop still simulator.
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Um, so at ECR we use it, we use it a, a huge amount.
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Um, and the reason we use it so much is really
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because what we're trying to do is a lot
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of the work is not really going into a race weekend.
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It's coming out of a race weekend.
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So we flew to Charlotte straight from thermal
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and all that we did was correlate
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the data in reality to what the sim data is in trying to get
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that to match as close as possible
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because all of these small micro adjustments you're making
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to the tire is building a better tire for you
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to use down the road when we get to Road America
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to mid Ohio, to whatever else road
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courses are coming up on the calendar.
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Um, so it's, it's a lot that goes into it.
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Um, there, just to give you a scale, there are,
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for every sim session there is, um,
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three in-person engineers.
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We have you well, I have my race engineer. Yeah.
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Performance engineer. There's a tire engineer.
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Then also on site is three
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engineers from gm.
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Um, then there is also seven people dialed in to,
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uh, essentially a teams call,
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which is the other race engineer,
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the other performance engineer, the driver coach,
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the damper engineer, aerodynamics, everything.
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So it's, it's essentially treated as a test session.
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There's 13 odd people involved in making what is
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honestly just a exaggerated computer game
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go successfully for a day.
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So it's, uh, it's, it's, it's a frustrating tool
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because there are still some things in simulation land
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where it's like, that would never happen in real life
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and it can get annoying as a driver
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'cause you're driving the car as as accurately
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as as you can.
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Um, and you're driving it as you would, you know,
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out on the track and then it'll speed off into the
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wall and, and that sort of thing.
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And it can get annoying at times.
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Uh, but ultimately the,
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the benefit outweighs the, the frustrating moments.
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So it's a, it's a very useful thing and,
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and we're very thankful to, to GM
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for all the time and resource they put into it.
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I mean, it's like a $30 million piece of equipment,
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so that's insane.
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Yeah. Well, before we get into like what the specifics of
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what a sim day looks like for you,
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you talk about giving you the best tire, right?
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So obviously you're, you're giving what you're getting,
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what Firestone's gonna give you,
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but everybody can make adjustments.
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So what kind of adjustments can a team make?
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Is it just like what pressure goes into
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The tire?
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Unfor? No. So what, what I'm talking about is like,
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you're building a tire model.
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So it has nothing to do with the settings of the tire,
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it's the vertical stiffness, it's the ya sensitivity,
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it's the, the amount of grip
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that it generates in certain phases of the corner.
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Um, and unfortunately Firestone doesn't give any
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information, so we're having
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to create a tire model from scratch.
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All right. So from your perspective, I know
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after thermal we hung out
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and then you, you flew out the next
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morning straight to Charlotte.
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What does a test day look like for you?
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Yeah, I mean it's, it's a full day man.
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So essentially, uh, when I'm coming from Indy,
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it's super convenient to have an airplane.
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'cause I can fly myself straight in Concord, uh,
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regional airport, which is liter, I'm not kidding you.
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Three minutes from the sim
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And you made like crazy good time the last time you was
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Me, right? Yeah. I mean like hour and it's
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A good tail wind. Yeah.
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Hour, 40 minutes, like door to door. Yeah.
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It's pretty, pretty badass.
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So, uh, it starts at 8:00 AM um,
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I'll walk you through the whole thing.
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So I I, I like to fly down the night before
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'cause I don't want to wake up at four 30 in the morning.
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Um, no one does
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unless they're wanting to record a podcast. Less
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Podcasting. Yeah.
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Uh, exactly. Yeah.
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Um, so I fly in the night
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before I go to, um, one
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of my favorite restaurants in Charlotte called, uh,
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Mac Daddy's or Big Daddy's.
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Okay. I know Big Daddy's Burger bar.
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Um, I do a Make your own salad,
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stay at the Courtyard Marriott across the street.
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I'm in bed by like nine.
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Wake up at seven 30, run
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to the Starbucks show up at the sim at eight, uh,
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get in the sim around eight 15
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and then I'm in it until 1130 ish.
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Christian flies down on the 9:00 AM flight,
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um, from India to Charlotte.
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He lands around 10 45 Ubers to the sim
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and he drives the sim from like 1130
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to three, let's call it.
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Um, in the meantime, like I have lunch, I catch up on
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calls, emails, I help them, um, you know, with,
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you know, what changes, you know, we should,
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we should move up the order or whatever.
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And then I get back in the sim from three to six
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and fly myself home.
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So it's, it's essentially eight to six with a two
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and a half, three hour break, um, in the middle
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to get some food and to reset your mind a little bit.
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And that's the way that we've, we've best found to do it.
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'cause I will tell you there at previous teams,
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I've done full sim days.
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That's just myself.
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And even though there's no physicality involved, you are
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so mentally fried from staring at a screen trying
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to drive a race car on the limit that like
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by the time you get to hour five, six, you're so fatigued,
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it all goes to hell in a hand basket. Anyways. I was gonna
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Ask
About, it's more demanding
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to drive the sim than it almost is the real car.
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I was gonna ask about that because yeah, obviously you,
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you're not dealing with like the same
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brake pressure, the ti the tire.
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Yeah, you are, you are. Okay.
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So it, there it is still some physical demanding,
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but like Yeah, I know anybody can relate.
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If you had like a really hard day at work,
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even if it wasn't like a physically hard day,
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I can't relate 'cause I don't work.
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Um, right. It's not like you, like when you get home
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and you just wanna sit down and rest
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Well, no, when you, you know, when you have to go
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to like a school function for Hazel
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or anyone has to go to some cocktail hour
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and you're like, we're a trade show
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and you're on your feet for a long period of time
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and you're talking and you're trying to be engaging,
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like, I would never do this.
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I don't try and be engaging or talk,
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but in theory, if I were to do that, uh,
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then you're exhausted.
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You're, you're burnt out.
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It's, it's taxing on your nervous system. Mm-hmm .
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It's the exact same thing for driving a sim.
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Like yes, the brake force is there.
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Yes, the steering weight is there,
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but it's like an air conditioned room.
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You're in your shorts and a t-shirt.
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Like you're just kind of chilling I feel like. Does
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Elio, does he get in full fire suit? I feel like?
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Oh, oh, he's full fire suit every Yeah, he's
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Full fire suit.
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I could a hundred percent see that. Yeah.
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Yeah, , uh, Simon does that as well.
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When or used to do that.
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I think power gets into suit,
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but the rest of us it's shorts and t-shirt, dude. Yeah.
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Why on earth would you be in your fire suit? ,
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They're just trying to get in the zone, man.
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They're trying to get in the zone.
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I remember at one point Marco posted a picture on Twitter
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of like the speedometer, but it was in a sim
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and it showed like going two 30 and,
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and people were online like,
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I can't believe you would take a picture in the
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car while going that fast.
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It was like, do you think really think he would like,
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So yeah, it's, uh, it's a lot of it is ultimately a lot
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of work for everyone involved.
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Um, it's a big time consumer,
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but it's, especially for where we're at at at ECR
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and what we're trying
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to accomplish, it's been a huge benefit.
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And um, yeah,
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we'll be back in the Sim strait after Long Beach.
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So, uh, race Sunday, fly to Charlotte Monday, SIM Tuesday,
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um, and it's just part of, part of the job, man,
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but it's pretty hard to complain about.
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Your, your most challenging task is to go play
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Video games, drive
A video game. Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, I'm a little upset that
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that means we can't do an escape room Monday
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after Long Beach, but I'll get over it, I guess. .
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All right, we've got a little more time left.
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So if there was, let's say like you, you were in charge
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of either ECR tomorrow or Indy car tomorrow or Chevy
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or Firestone, what's like one thing,
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if you could just unilaterally make the change,
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what would you do to improve a sim day?
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Uh, have our sim, whether that's ECR
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or Chevys in Indiana?
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In Indiana. Well it sounds like
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30 million for that, right?
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Well, I took for granted, so like, I obviously drove
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for a Honda team for seven years. Yeah. And that's, I
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Took for granted that's like 40 minute
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drive from Indy, right?
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Well, no, it, no dude,
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it was like 25 minutes from my house. It was in Brownsburg.
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Oh is it? Like, I thought it was further than that.
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Yeah, it took, well it's now by the airport,
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but no Brownsburg.
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So I took for granted how nice it was
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to wake up in my own bed, pop over to the sim
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and then be home in time for dinner.
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But, uh, that is what it is.
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Um, obviously it's a small advantage for Penske
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'cause they're local,
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but, um, not a small advantage for Joseph
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'cause he lives in Nashville.
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But yeah, I would say to have a sim that's in-house, um,
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would be my number one improvement.
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So if anyone has 30 mil lying around that they want
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to toss my way, I,
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I'll check out the, I'll,
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I'll check out the couch cushions.
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I'll see what I got in there. Right, right, right.
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, we'll start a GoFundMe for Alex Rossi, SIM .
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And, and on that note, like I think a lot
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of people are probably curious about, you know,
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drivers also, like I'm not the only one that,
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that spends this amount of time in, in the Sims,
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but also there's quite a few guys, McLaughlin, Paolo, Jack,
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Harvey, Connor, there's, there's,
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I would say probably 10 David Lucas, um,
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that have at-Home Sims as well.
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So, you know, iRacing in, in a lot of respects has,
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is come a really long way.
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And in some ways it's a little bit better
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actually than the sim that we have.
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I wouldn't say from a
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realism standpoint of like the, the motion, the platform,
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the graphics, the steering feedback, the break feedback.
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But because iRacing is a, is a community, like there's a lot
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of budget that they have
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to continually improve the track models
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and to continually update the car and the tire model.
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Like iRacing actually has a thermal tire model.
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Thermal meaning temperature not racetrack. I was, whereas
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I was curious.
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Yeah. Whereas, whereas in the sim like in Charlotte, none
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of the teams use a thermal tire model
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'cause it's just too challenging to get to work.
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Um, so iRacing can be a, a huge tool for guys,
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especially if they're new to the series,
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they don't know the tracks.
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Um, that sort of thing.
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I think from where I stand, like obviously all the tracks
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that we go to, I've now been racing at
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for a really long period of time, so I don't need
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to have the supplemental sim stuff to learn a track.
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But, um, certainly, you know, at home rigs now
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that you can get for six, well, I mean, really three
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to $11,000 are in a lot of respects just as good
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as the $30 million sims.
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And, and the guys
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that work on the GM one hate people when they say this.
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But like, that's the reality. Like you can get very close to
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what we're using, um, at home.
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So, uh, if that interests you guys, go do it.
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You can, I mean, like from, from the driver perspective,
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I, I get that like Hinge talks about learning tracks
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by using I racing on tracks.
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He hasn't been to stuff like that.
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But you couldn't do like a full sim day
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with those 13 people you said were involved on
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one of those. Could you, uh,
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What do you mean by that?
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Well, yeah, I'm saying like, if, if you had,
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say Canon set up in your basement
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and they said, Alex, we need to do a sim day,
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we're just gonna send a few people over to your house
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and call the rest of 'em in.
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We're just gonna do the sim day from your place.
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Like could you do that?
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You you could do I would say 70% of it.
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Okay.
Um, you know, we're testing a lot
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of like damper stuff out.
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We're testing a lot of stuff out that's proprietary
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to a team, whereas
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that's not gonna be in a dropdown menu on iRacing.
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But if you're like, you know, experimenting with diffs
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or roll centers or wheel bases or spring packages
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or whatever, all of options that are in a mechanical
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menu on iRacing, yeah,
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you could a hundred percent accomplish the same thing.
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But kind of what we're doing is that next level.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, which is ultimately
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where the cost comes in.
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'cause the vehicle model and the math
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and the computing power behind it is just
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that little bit more advanced
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That 0.5%.
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That's the difference between,
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you know, 13th Place and Pole. It's
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A little too close to home there,
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pal. But yeah, you're right. ,
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You didn't start 13th, right? ?
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No, but I mean, I think
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that's my average for the year so far.
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20th and sixth divided by two is 13.
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Damn. Wow. I wasn't even trying to make fun of you.
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I was just pulling a number outta my ass. Sure. Yeah. .
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It's all right. You your top 10 finishes, you know?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks. Thanks.
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That's, that's what we're aiming for. You're
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Gonna, you're gonna win Long Beach so we can go hang out.
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Actually
Traditionally really strong at Long Beach. I
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Think I might.
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Okay. Well I gotta a hotel room down at Long Beach. You've
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Heard reverse.
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We're gonna party. Yeah, . All right.
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Well thanks for walking me through a sim day. This was fun.
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No problem. Anytime, pal.
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