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This is off track.
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Apologies in advance if my internet goes
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away. 'cause they're still here.
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Fixing is your six is your $6 million house.
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Not having internet . Man, you're broke. Bitch.
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Spend all the money on your plane, .
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Oh,
See now I don't feel,
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now I feel like I'm not the guy
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with the worst internet on the show. This is tremendous.
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Somehow,
Somehow you still are . God.
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Wait, all 12 pixels of
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You are bad.
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What is the towel behind you?
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It's not a towel. It's, Becky was filming an audition.
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Is it a pro?
Oh, who are you talking to? Me Or Patto.
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And then these are fluffy pillows.
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That's so nice.
They look very soft. They're
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Really soft.
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Is it all Rh?
Uh, these are, yes. Yeah.
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I feel like, I feel like you're the,
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I think you're the kind of guy who, when you buy your house,
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you just went like to the RH catalog
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and you're like, yeah, this room, let's make this page 17.
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Just all that, uh, bedroom. Yeah.
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Page 28. Just make, just do that.
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No, no. We mixed it up. We mixed it up. Okay.
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'cause you can tell when everything is alright.
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You can tell like, it's got a, it's got a feel.
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So I think it's important to like mix it up, you know?
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I'm just glad you got that whole bookcase
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for two full items, .
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Oh, I know. I'm still in the process.
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Yeah,
We'll send you some books.
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people, people might not know.
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Uh, you bought a house in Indianapolis last year, um,
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and you're officially like a Hoosier.
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Like you, I mean obviously Texas is still home.
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Mexico's still home, but like you're an indie
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now for most of the time.
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Yeah, I'm, I, I spent a lot of time here.
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I haven't in June for some reason I was barely even here.
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So I've really enjoyed my week
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this week here and last week here.
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Um, I love it.
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It's, I'm not used to all this green in Texas and Mexico.
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All these beautiful big trees with like, you know,
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however many shades of green exist here. Uh,
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Big landscaping guy.
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You have one less, you have one less big tree
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though than you started with. I feel
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Like two .
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Two do. You could share what happened. Well,
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Two that I had to take down.
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The other one wasn't even mine, but it landed on my house. .
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Sure.
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Welcome to the Midwest .
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Welcome to the neighborhood.
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Your neighbors were throwing trees at your house.
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Yeah, my neighbor's tree fell on my house.
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Um, finally three months later the roof is fixed. .
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Um,
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Nice. And
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I had to take two more down
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because they're just massive man.
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They're massive trees.
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And some of them started angling towards my house
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and I was like, Hmm, I'm gonna check these out.
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And yeah, well they were dead so had to take 'em down. ,
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Just walk the perimeter on anything
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that looks like it's landing distance from the house.
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That one's gone. That one's gone.
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Anything that would land on the house. Yeah.
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And looks dead gone. .
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Gotta go. Gotta go. Yeah.
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Well buddy, uh, thanks for coming on.
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Uh, coming off a pretty solid weekend at Iowa.
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Took me a second to remember where we
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were.
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Yeah, it was good man.
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Um, first win of the season for me, which uh,
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obviously is always a good feeling.
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Yeah. First one for team Chevy.
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Um, you know, it's always a good feeling to get that one,
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like that first one out of the way.
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Um, and race two was, race two was pretty hectic.
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Um, you know, all those yellows, uh,
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were landing good and bad for people.
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That, that last one was real bad for me, .
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So, uh, that kind of took us out of contention to,
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to win it, but, uh, made our way back up
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and it was a, a very good, you know, good,
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very good points weekend.
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Uh, would've loved to have been on the podium twice,
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but, um, it's all good. So
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Kind of talk to me about that because you've had,
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you've had this really impressive year in, in
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so many ways, right?
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I feel like from the
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outside at least it feels like your consistency is
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better than it's ever been.
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You are maximizing your days on Sundays,
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whether you qualify well
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or especially on the days where maybe you have an issue on
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Saturday, you guys are really recovering well on Sundays.
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It's points, points, points.
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You're always there thereabouts.
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I know this was the first one of the season,
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but like, let's be honest, not a lot
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of people have won this season 'cause
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Pelle keeps <inaudible> winning everything.
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But do you feel like it's been a big jump forward
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for you in terms of like, the kind of season you have
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to have to put together a championship run? Yeah,
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I think mentally I'm in the best.
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You know, I'm, I'm in a great mental space with
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what I know what I need to be doing.
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Um, I do, I do think
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it's been my worst year qualifying wise.
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Uh, whether it's unlucky
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or just pure pace, you know, there's, there's been a few
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that have been extremely strong.
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But all the other ones I find myself more doing recovery
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drives rather than just, you know, starting from a good spot
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and like trying to go forward in a way.
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So, um, I always, you know, I always try
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and maximizing qualifying just like everyone else.
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'cause especially now it's just, it's so freaking important
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to do these, to do these, um, these qualifyings
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because the, the track position ke it just,
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it feels like it gets more and more important.
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Um, but I would say
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that's actually been a weakness this year.
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Like we've been starting further back, uh,
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more times than not.
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And that makes it feel like maybe it hasn't
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been an amazing year.
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But I do think just seeing how we've recovered in races
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and then, uh, the consistency that well,
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maybe when we do suck,
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we actually come out pretty okay in a race.
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Um, those, those pay off at the end of the year.
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And I've seen that, I've saw it
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with like Will power in 22 when he won the championship.
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I've seen it with polo with Dixon.
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You know, you just, you always, you sometimes have
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to put your ego aside
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and just accept that, um,
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that maybe it's just not gonna be your weekend.
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And just try and save what you can.
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And I think that's what's positioned me in second
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in the championship, you know?
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Uh, 'cause it hasn't been like, oh my God,
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we've won three races.
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No, not really. Obviously Palau keeps winning everything.
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Kirkwood has won also a lot of races,
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but we are ahead of him in the championship
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because of the consistency and just being there.
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Um, you know, trying to be there in in in top five,
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top tens in every race.
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But, um, I mean, just typical IndyCar season,
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you don't know what's gonna throw at you, you know? So
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Walk us through, you know,
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the listeners on this show have gotten plenty
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of opinions from James
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and I, um, not so much Tim, even though he likes
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to share them in terms of like
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our thoughts on the racing this year, right.
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In 2025 in IndyCar.
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I think I, I'd, I'd love to hear your opinion.
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We kind of agree that
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before Indianapolis it was pretty, the races were boring.
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Like there wasn't, forget there was one winner.
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The races themselves were just not very good.
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Indianapolis was a pretty decent show.
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I think Detroit was better than we've seen in the past.
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And then it's kind of continued that evolution, you know,
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through Road America, through mid Ohio, through Iowa.
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Um, do you kind of feel that same way and,
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and what do you put down the,
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or what is your reason you think for why the beginning
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of the year was what it was?
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I think the start of the year was boring
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because, well, one,
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there was no yellows like anywhere.
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when we have the yellows in races that just at some point
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that's gonna host some people
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and at some point it's gonna help some other people.
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And then that's when you're gonna start seeing the big
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shifts from back to the front or front to the back.
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yellows coupled with, you know, maybe some circuits now that
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you can make the un preferred tire work.
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Um, I think that also helps a lot.
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Um, you know,
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because it, the start of the year, like for example in St.
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Peter, I mean everyone, when you start seeing people get
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creative with like passing and stuff, that usually means
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that there's one's at a tire disadvantage
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or one car is in, in a different tire.
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That's what usually makes things, um, a little bit more,
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uh, a little bit less follow the leader, I would say.
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Um, and you know, I I don't think it's one specific thing.
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I think it's just the yellows coupled with tracks
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that now allow you to actually make, you know,
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the un preferred tire work.
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Because look at St. Pete man, look at Long Beach.
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I mean you couldn't make those,
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you couldn't make the un preferred tire work at all.
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Well I think, I think that's the, the big thing, right?
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We came out with a new alternate that was supposed
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to have a bigger separation from the primary tire,
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but then the hybrid weight that we didn't have
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for the beginning part of the year, it was just too much.
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So ultimately I think it's kind of,
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we're finding an equal Librium a little bit.
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Teams are understanding a little bit what you have to do
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with the car, uh, to make it work.
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And also we're now getting to tracks
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where we've had the hybrid, so you kind of have
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that knowledge going in.
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Whereas at the beginning of the year, we were seeing St.
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Pete for the first time with
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the hybrid and all that sort of thing.
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So it is, it is an interesting thing.
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I mean, I think ultimately the problem still stems a little
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bit from the hybrid, um, but that is what it is.
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How did you feel, you know, coming into this year
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after everything that you guys had learned in 24
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with the hybrid, how have you found ways to,
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to make it benefit you more?
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Or do you feel, still feel like it's kind of just this tool
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that you can't really do anything to,
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to be better or different?
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Yes, yes and no.
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I do think that it's changed things
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around in terms of how I can extract more money,
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money more pace, uh, more pay from it equals money, baby ,
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uh, more pace from the car in qualifying.
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that I am not at like peak performance in terms
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of qualifying as I have been in the past.
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So I think it's been a tool that's maybe changed around
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what I need from the car.
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I would say for like opt optimal pace.
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But in the race you can actually get pretty
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Is is is that because of the balance shift or
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because of like how you actually use the,
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like the deployment and the strategy behind it?
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I would say that coupled with the weight
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and what you need
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to like get the optimal performance out
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of the car in qualifying for me has been more of a struggle
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because the tire now behaves a little bit
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differently with the extra weight.
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Um, and I feel like where, where I was very strong
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was I could, I could do it for a lap in qualifying,
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even if the car wasn't amazing.
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I, I, I made sure that the thing would rotate.
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I would always make sure like it's gonna rotate,
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it's gonna get me where I need to go maybe just for a lap,
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but it'll, it'll, it'll do it.
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And I feel like now you can't do that
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because the, the, it feels like the car just
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that little bit extra that you could do,
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it just doesn't do it anymore.
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Or the tire doesn't give it to you for the full lap.
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And things that I would do to the car just for
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that qualifying or, you know, just, just to transfer,
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they don't work for me anymore.
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So those things I just, I can't make them work anymore.
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And it's been, it's been a bit of a shift of how
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to extract the lap time from the car.
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Especially when you're, I mean you're,
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we're we're talking hundreds, you know, so
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that's been a little bit different.
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But I would say in race trim,
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I don't think it's been horribly different.
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I do think you need a, I do think the car asks
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of other things with a weight
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because it's just a lot of,
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it's a lot of weight at the rear.
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It's a lot of weight at the rear and,
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and just the, the tires are behaving very differently as
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over the stint just because of that, that weight shift.
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One of the other kind of big things for you
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and your team, I guess more, more precisely uh, specifically
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is you had Christian join for this year.
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Kinda walk us through what's it been like working alongside
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him and uh, you know, do you guys work well together?
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Do you like a similar kind of car?
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Like just kind of walk us through that transition?
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I think it depends on the track. I would say.
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Um, I think Christian's been super strong in qualifying.
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Um, I, I do think he's been the lead car all year in
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qualifying specifically at, at rodent Street courses.
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Um, you know, for us I believe
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that the races have been a strength.
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Um, 'cause we always just find ourselves recovering
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and recovering really well.
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But qualifying definitely, at least to this point
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of the season, I do think he
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and the seven, the seven ERs have done the, the best job in,
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in just always putting themselves in that, in that fast.
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I've made one fast six man, well actually two fast sixes.
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Um, one doesn't really count 'cause it's indie, right?
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And the other one is thermal and I was on pole.
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But all the other ones I've been eighth, 12th, 11th,
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15th, um,
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20th,
18th, 24th, like, you know,
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just they've been, they've been a struggle like mm-hmm .
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Qualifying has been a struggle
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and I don't see it changing like
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just from one day to another.
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I would love for that to be the case, but it just, but, but,
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But I think that's, that's something that a lot
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of people aren't necessarily picking up on.
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You're absolutely right. And it's not just you.
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Like we've seen three Penske cars go out in round one
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a bunch of times this year.
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Like when have you ever, when has anyone ever seen that?
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And that's not anything to say,
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like those three guys haven't forgotten how to drive.
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But like qualifying this year has been a very different
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beast than it has in years past.
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I think it's preferred a very specific way
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of driving the car and extracting lap time from the car.
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And I mean, I would say it's, it's,
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it's probably opposite to how I usually would decide to, to,
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to kind of work through it rather than,
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you know, what it's asking.
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So it has, it has forced myself
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and I believe other guys on the grid to,
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to learn maybe not only skill
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but learn a different way of trying
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to extract the lap time outta the car.
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That, that has been the same for so many years, you know?
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'cause when something works just for so long
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and then it starts not working, it,
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it doesn't take one weekend to like notice it, you know, it,
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it, it like, it turns into like, uh, and then again
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and then again you're like, hmm, there's a pattern here
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and this is probably where it's shifting
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and then you start, you know, trying to get creative
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and looking at other ways.
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But I mean, it's made it interesting hasn't it?
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Well maybe not since Palau keeps winning everything
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guy, but uh, yeah,
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I mean just look at Dixon as well, like Dixie.
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Dixie also, he races like a beast.
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But I, I also think qualifying
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for him hasn't really been the easiest of things to um,
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to sort out, you know, it's just,
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I don't think it's just a me uh, situation. I think it's
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No for sure.
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You know other people as well. Yeah.
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And others have, have benefited from it
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For sure.
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It goes both ways, right? It's gonna,
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it's definitely gonna be an advantage
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for some, a disadvantage for others.
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Uh, anytime something changes in the car.
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Um, let's go back to Iowa real quick.
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You know, leaving the tests and with the information
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that came out after the test with the downforce level
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that was gonna be run the tire
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compound change, whatever, whatever.
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I think there was some people that were skeptical
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that we'd get good racing at Iowa,
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but we got there, we did the highline practice.
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First of all, I'd like to know, you know, just your thoughts
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and feelings on the Highline practice
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and if you think it's valuable,
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but then just how kind of happy were you and
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and impressed for you with the quality
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of the racing that we saw at Iowa?
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Uh, Highline I believe is good.
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Uh, I do believe the Highline sessions do work.
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Um, my first experience just seeing it like really work
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would be probably Texas.
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When we did it at Texas like that,
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that really changed the game, uh, in the race.
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I mean that last year we were there, it was one
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of the best races there, you know, it was really good.
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Um, in terms of Iowa,
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I do think it raced much better than last year.
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Um, I do think that obviously old Iowa
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was a bit more chaotic because of the deck of the tire,
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although this year maybe the deck wasn't even close
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to us being as aggressive, you still saw some deck,
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you still saw new tires being able to do more than
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what the old tires were able to do.
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And I think that's what ultimately brought
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that second groove into play.
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And like people were going up there, I was going up there,
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you know, in the second race I was, I wasn't
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as comfortable up there I would say.
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Uh, so it wasn't as easy for me to do,
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especially later on in the stint.
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Um, but I do believe like, I mean last year man was
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probably one of the most boring
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races I had ever been a part of.
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Yeah. Because I saw the exact same rear wing
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for 250 laps, you know?
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Yeah. And this year that wasn't the case.
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You know, there was a, there was a rapid shift in in,
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you know, in cars getting lucky cars not getting lucky cars
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coming through the pack when they didn't get lucky,
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like good cars were standing out.
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So, uh, how good does it feel knowing
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new garden's track record at Iowa
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to beat 'em in a straight up fight?
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Like that wasn't a, that wasn't a lucky yellow.
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That wasn't a strategy that was last pit stop. Yeah.
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You got him in the cycle, you stayed out longer,
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you had a better in lap, you exit
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and then that out lap keeping him behind you was, dude,
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that was awesome to watch
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and like to beat Joseph at Iowa in a straight
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up fight is something pretty cool.
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When you called it as well, you were like,
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we beat him at his own game.
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Like that was your first radio message.
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Yeah, we were, man I've been in
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that position like every time I've been second there,
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it's always been second to Joseph.
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Um, and when I won there in, in 22, um,
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is when he had some failure, you know?
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Yeah. Um, and, and I remember, uh, like he was yesterday
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after, um,
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after I had won the race, um, I texted him to like,
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to make sure that he was okay
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'cause I know that he had like fainted
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after the, the accident or whatever and,
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but the only thing he tells me, he's like, oh,
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I bet you love to see that.
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And I was like, well, not really, but like I'll take a win.
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Yeah. Thanks. And um, so when I was sitting
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behind him on Saturday
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and I knew there was one more pit cycle to go,
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uh, I was determined.
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I said, this is the day where,
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where I'm gonna beat him at his own game.
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Yeah. And he was very sour after the race.
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So, uh, um, yeah it was, that was a very good,
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that was a very good final pit stop exchange
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and um, we were a second faster on the apron coming in.
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That's what made the difference.
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And you were the second, you were the second fastest car
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on the apron in race one, which is also pretty good.
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Yes.
Behind me.
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I knew, I knew that was good.
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Are you the only reason, the only reason he would've said
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that is if he was number one.
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I was waiting for that . Wait,
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Wait, wait.
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No, wait. I saw, I saw, I saw pit metrics
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and you were second to me.
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No,
Because there was only one green.
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There was only one Green Apron.
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I know.
Yeah.
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Oh, I, I was told it was me.
No we're gonna
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For the first time
In history,
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I was send you screenshots because I saw we doing it
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Actual fact check.
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I saw me and then I saw Rossi
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and I was like, that explains the moments
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because if you saw my onboard as well,
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I was dying coming into the apron .
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Oh dude, I love that so much.
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Well, okay, so Iowa's done Iowa is um,
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was the site of your 50th, sorry,
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your win in your 50th start
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a win again in your hundredth start.
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So I guess we'll see you get another win in about 50 races ,
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but no, I don't.
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It is gonna be on the calendar in 50 races. Talk
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Us through, well there might not be
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a calendar in 50 races.
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Um, talk us through what, um, your,
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your goals are for the rest of the season.
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Um, obviously, you know, IndyCar only has five races left.
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Um, is there any plan for you
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to get into an F1 car in this upcoming, uh, off season
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for us end of the year for them?
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Walk us through what your next couple months looks like.
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I will be in the Formula one car, um,
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a day in September
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and then I believe a day in November
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I will be doing FP one in Mexico.
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Uh, so I expect that week to be uh,
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what do you mean? Why, why,
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Why Mexico?
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Why Mexico? Is that like a
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Because I think it's, I'm from there,
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so that probably makes sense.
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No, it is just like, just 'cause Kit Kat wants it or
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something.
,
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I expect that weekend to be crazy as usual.
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I'm looking forward to it. Um, and then
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otherwise, um, for the IndyCar season, I've got some
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tracks that, you know, have been very strong
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for me in the team in the past,
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but there's also some tracks
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that have been very bad for us in the past.
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AKA Toronto, that's probably been the worst track ever
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for me and the team.
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Um, so that's this weekend, we'll see how
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that goes. Um, just
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Tell, just tell will, just don't break it down.
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Throw that, just tell Willow to throw
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that 20 16 17 set up on there and you'll be fine. ,
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We're on gonna,
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Man, it's gonna be fine.
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00:22:42.115 --> 00:22:43.975
It's gonna be fine. It's like, hey, what? Whatever else
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I'm determined, I'm determined to make Toronto, uh,
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top five for me.
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I'll be very happy with the top five.
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Um, and I don't know, I mean this,
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00:22:56.775 --> 00:22:59.185
this year's full, full of surprises.
522
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You never know might find myself in the fast six
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and I'll make my Sunday much easier.
524
00:23:03.445 --> 00:23:06.105
Uh, or at least that's what you, you hope so .
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00:23:06.965 --> 00:23:09.985
Um, and yeah man, I'm just,
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I'm I'm gonna continue with the same approach really.
527
00:23:12.205 --> 00:23:15.025
You know, I'm, I'm trying to really maximize my weekends
528
00:23:15.045 --> 00:23:18.905
and sometimes, sometimes they're gonna be great
529
00:23:18.965 --> 00:23:20.865
and sometimes they might not be amazing.
530
00:23:20.875 --> 00:23:23.025
Right. But I think it's important to,
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00:23:23.285 --> 00:23:24.825
to just keep yourself there and,
532
00:23:24.885 --> 00:23:27.345
and people are making mistakes.
533
00:23:27.775 --> 00:23:30.385
It's, those mistakes add up to a lot of points at the end
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00:23:30.385 --> 00:23:31.625
of the year if you capitalize on them.
535
00:23:31.625 --> 00:23:34.785
And that's what, uh, that's what I'm looking forward to.
536
00:23:34.805 --> 00:23:36.105
That's what we've been saying. I mean,
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00:23:36.125 --> 00:23:37.185
you go right back to St.
538
00:23:37.185 --> 00:23:40.025
Pete, Paolo is the fourth quickest car, but he won that race
539
00:23:40.025 --> 00:23:41.385
because they made no mistakes
540
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and everyone in front of him did.
541
00:23:42.845 --> 00:23:44.745
Um, alright buddy, we really appreciate coming out.
542
00:23:44.825 --> 00:23:46.260
I I just wanna end on one last
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question and then we'll let you go.
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00:23:48.545 --> 00:23:50.485
How long have you known that your number one
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00:23:50.665 --> 00:23:51.805
fan was Kit Dixon?
546
00:23:52.075 --> 00:23:53.925
I've only known since last year.
547
00:23:54.225 --> 00:23:55.325
Oh, okay. Oh, that's known.
548
00:23:55.345 --> 00:23:56.445
So you've known for a minute. Okay.
549
00:23:56.835 --> 00:23:58.925
Yeah, I've only known for, see, that was,
550
00:23:58.955 --> 00:24:02.805
that was actually the, the, the, the race
551
00:24:02.835 --> 00:24:05.485
that I found out in Iowa where he's like,
552
00:24:05.485 --> 00:24:06.925
well, I want you to win.
553
00:24:06.925 --> 00:24:09.525
And his dad, you know, though, Scott was right next to me .
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00:24:10.085 --> 00:24:12.045
And I was like, dude, you don't know.
555
00:24:12.045 --> 00:24:13.405
You don't know how good you have it.
556
00:24:13.405 --> 00:24:14.885
Your dad's like, no guy.
557
00:24:14.995 --> 00:24:17.485
Your your dad's, your dad's the goat, you know?
558
00:24:18.185 --> 00:24:20.725
Um, but he's, he's such a good kid.
559
00:24:21.185 --> 00:24:25.205
And right when I was about to fly out on, on uh, on Sunday,
560
00:24:26.295 --> 00:24:29.435
um, I was, we were literally were about
561
00:24:29.435 --> 00:24:31.515
to close the close the door of the airplane
562
00:24:32.055 --> 00:24:33.995
and they were coming on the golf cart
563
00:24:34.275 --> 00:24:35.755
'cause they were, um, Scott
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00:24:35.755 --> 00:24:38.075
and his family was flying out, uh, next to us
565
00:24:38.895 --> 00:24:42.315
and he basically, he like got out of the golf cart
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00:24:42.575 --> 00:24:45.035
and he like sprinted to the airplane.
567
00:24:45.895 --> 00:24:48.435
And my mom was like, oh my God, that's so cute. .
568
00:24:49.095 --> 00:24:50.875
So then I like grabbed the trophy
569
00:24:51.055 --> 00:24:53.235
and I like brought it down so we can take a picture.
570
00:24:54.015 --> 00:24:55.875
Um, but he, it was the
571
00:24:55.875 --> 00:24:57.155
Content, the internet needed
572
00:24:57.155 --> 00:24:58.475
that day, man. Everybody loved
573
00:24:58.475 --> 00:24:59.475
It.
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00:24:59.475 --> 00:25:01.595
Yeah, no, he's, he's such a good kid. It's a great family.
575
00:25:02.295 --> 00:25:06.075
Um, you know, it was, uh, it was really cool, a really cool,
576
00:25:06.275 --> 00:25:08.075
'cause I really wanted a picture with him on the podium,
577
00:25:08.215 --> 00:25:11.555
but Emma was like, no, I didn't wanna run in, uh, run in
578
00:25:11.555 --> 00:25:13.155
and you know, ruin a special moment.
579
00:25:13.315 --> 00:25:14.395
I was like, it wasn't gonna be ruined.
580
00:25:15.375 --> 00:25:16.555
You should send him, uh,
581
00:25:16.555 --> 00:25:18.195
send him mean he lives just down the street.
582
00:25:18.195 --> 00:25:19.395
Give, send him a gift package
583
00:25:19.495 --> 00:25:21.155
of paddle gear to wear around the house.
584
00:25:21.335 --> 00:25:22.555
Really get into Scott's
585
00:25:22.555 --> 00:25:23.555
Head.
586
00:25:23.555 --> 00:25:24.155
Yeah, I might, I might, I might send him something.
587
00:25:25.105 --> 00:25:27.075
Scott's good in Toronto so before the weekend.
588
00:25:27.185 --> 00:25:28.355
Make sure you send him some
589
00:25:28.355 --> 00:25:29.355
Stuff.
590
00:25:29.355 --> 00:25:30.995
I feel like Alex is already planning what type
591
00:25:30.995 --> 00:25:32.715
of punishment Ben would get if he
592
00:25:32.715 --> 00:25:33.755
ever pulled anything like that.
593
00:25:33.945 --> 00:25:35.475
Like how long he'd be grounded.
594
00:25:36.535 --> 00:25:38.955
No, no, no, Ben, Ben doesn't speak yet,
595
00:25:38.955 --> 00:25:40.915
but he is already given like the number five
596
00:25:41.015 --> 00:25:42.155
so I already know where it's going. ,
597
00:25:44.795 --> 00:25:48.235
Whatever. .
Alright
598
00:25:48.235 --> 00:25:49.275
Buddy, thanks so much.
599
00:25:49.335 --> 00:25:50.875
He can't get, he can't get mad at him
600
00:25:50.875 --> 00:25:55.745
because Alexander Rossi himself uses
601
00:25:56.385 --> 00:25:57.465
P Shop pajamas.
602
00:25:58.125 --> 00:25:59.875
You're right. I am.
603
00:25:59.975 --> 00:26:03.315
I'm secretly, I'm secretly the biggest Patto fan, believe
604
00:26:03.315 --> 00:26:06.195
or not it's I, um, right on man.
605
00:26:06.195 --> 00:26:07.075
Thanks for coming. I don't if
606
00:26:07.075 --> 00:26:08.155
it's that secret. Appreciate you secret.
607
00:26:08.195 --> 00:26:09.275
I think we've all know we've all known.
608
00:26:09.505 --> 00:26:12.035
Shut up Tim. Um, , thanks for coming on.
609
00:26:12.415 --> 00:26:14.235
We appreciate you and uh,
610
00:26:14.235 --> 00:26:15.795
we'll see you in a couple days. Alright,
611
00:26:15.945 --> 00:26:16.945
Luck.
612
00:26:16.945 --> 00:26:18.035
I'll see you, you guys soon. Cheers guys. Thank you.
613
00:26:18.105 --> 00:26:19.105
Bye-bye.
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00:26:20.105 --> 00:26:21.995
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