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This is off track.
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And Nolan, in 2015, my agency made that little
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Thing.
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That was the first win that I
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had when we were working together. So
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Nice. Was
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It still pissing rain when you were standing up there?
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Sure was. I, uh, so I'm in the middle of moving Dario, so
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this office normally has a lot more helmets and,
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and paraphernalia, uh, in it.
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So yours is not currently on the shelf
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'cause it's already moved to the new place.
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Oh. But there's a few here
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that you would recognize. Uh, you've given me the
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Jimmy, the Jimmy excuse
Is yours.
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I went to No, he's mine. Jimmy.
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He gave me your helmet.
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I went to Jimmy's, I love me building
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other day, said, where's my helmet?
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He's like, uh, it's in the office. Went into the office.
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I thought, Jimmy, there's no helmet here, .
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He's like, you gave me a helmet. I'm like, yes, Jimmy.
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And here's the, here's the FedEx ticket from 2010.
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And it was a good helmet. He's like,
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bro, he's not getting another
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one.
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We've been, we've been doing this podcast for, what,
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eight years now?
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Yeah. James is still not giving me a helmet.
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No, I have not done that. Um, I learned from Dario.
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So, yeah, I mean, like the fact you're,
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because you're very, you are particular with your helmets.
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And I am, I am blessed and honored to have one.
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I'm, I'm sorry it's not on display today.
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'cause again, it's, it's already at the new spot.
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Um, here's the thing.
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I found it too valuable to leave it here for showings.
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So I took it to the safe space and that's why it's not here.
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Uh, yes. I'm sure you figured it out by now. Everybody.
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But, uh, off track with Hinge or Rossi this, this week,
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and we are joined by none other than the living legend.
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He is a four time series champion in Indie Carr.
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He is a three time indie 500 winner.
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He's done a lot of other cool <inaudible> too.
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But you know him. You love him.
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It's Dio Frank, welcome to the show, pal. Thank
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You. Good to be
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Here.
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Yes. Rather than going too far down memory
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lane about all, were you expect, were
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You expecting me to say more?
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There? There was like a, a sort of a pregnant pause .
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I think that's just my bad internet, uh, which is, uh,
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a staple of this show.
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So get used to that. Uh, it's all part of it.
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So, so where do we find you at the moment?
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Because, you know, if you follow Dario on Instagram
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and you should, if you don't, uh,
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you see him often, uh, over in Europe.
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You see him in North America,
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you see him all over the world.
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You've seen him recently in Dubai.
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We'll get to that in a minute.
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But where are we today? You've
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Seen him in the drive through line
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of a Taco Bell? Yeah. Too
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Soon. .
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But that's a different story.
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Um, the, I'm in Palm Beach at the moment.
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Ellie and the kids were down here this week.
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So I came in from, I'd been in Bahrain testing the Gordon
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Murray Track car, the T 50 s,
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and, um, came straight from, from Bahrain, um,
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into Charlotte, which we'll get to, um,
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for a, for a seat fit.
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And then, uh, and came down here
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and then heading off to,
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to Sunny Seabring in a couple hours.
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Beautiful. All right. Well, we'll get to that in a sec.
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But look, man, it's a long off season.
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Everybody listening to the show knows that they're all,
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they're all, you know, chomping at the bit to get to St.
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Pete and get this season started.
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But as far as the off season goes, you know, it's, uh,
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it's hardly an off season for you.
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I know you've been all over, you've been busy.
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You mentioned, uh, you know, the Gordon Murray car.
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Just kind of tell us a little bit about what you've been up
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to since Nashville.
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Wow. Yeah, it is, uh, it's pretty intense, you know,
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that was as a, you know, when I was competing,
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it was very structured last race.
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You kind of had a couple of weeks, maybe a month off.
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to training and all that sort of stuff.
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Now with, um, sort of the three parts of my, my
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working life, I guess, um, <inaudible> advisor,
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Gordon Murray, you know, brand product
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and all that sort of fun stuff I do there.
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Um, I manage Alex Lin, um, in the,
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he's driving in the, in the, the hypercar in We,
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the Moment for Cadillac.
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So those are the, the sort
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of the three branches of my, my life.
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And then, um, you know, Ellie
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and the kids are, are spent a lot more time in the us So
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I'm, I'm sort of back and forward as well
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with, uh, with all that.
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So I, I think what I've done since the, um,
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since Nashville as I've been on an airplane, the tires,
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but yeah, you know, Goodwood, um, I got to to go race there,
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got to drive some really cool cars.
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Um, I think the coolest one was probably the 1999 Chuma car.
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Uh, Ferrari F1 car. Got to drive that in ma. Mm-hmm.
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I know you've been at Magel recently. Yeah.
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Um, so that was pretty mind blowing.
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Um, and just, you know, a bit of skiing over,
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over Christmas in the new year.
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Um, uh, I'd as you know, it just never stops, you know,
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you get out of the cockpit and,
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and life, um, luckily has continued at, at a pace.
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Yeah. It comes at you fast.
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And I feel like you're sort of like me
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where when opportunities come up, you sort of just say,
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you're probably not great at saying no.
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You, you like kind of getting
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stuck into different things, don't you?
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Yeah, exactly. Right.
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And I've, I've done some, you know,
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interesting stuff since I, since I stopped driving.
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But there was very much that James, it was,
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somebody would ask the question, I'd say, yeah, I'll do it.
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Yeah, I'll do it. And then you look at your calendar
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and you, you're thinking, holy
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<inaudible>, what have I done?
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Because you're, you're constantly on the go.
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And I'm, you know, I'm a big part of life is trying
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to balance, uh, family side and, and, and work and,
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and also just fun.
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I mean, Ellie and I get to do a lot of fun stuff,
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but obviously the kids are now of an age, they're in school.
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of balancing that, that whole thing.
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And then there's the, the times when I get to go
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and do you know, whether it's ice driving when my buddies
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or, um, you know, notice this is a theme with cars here,
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but, um, , yeah, it's all life is about balance.
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I remember I had a, I had a great trainer from Austria
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called Tony Mattis,
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and he would always tell me, life is about balance.
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And I'm, uh, that's what I'm trying to do,
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Figuring it out.
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I I, for me, it was, I wonder if it's the same for you in
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that, you know, when you are driving full time, everything
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that you do is kind of geared towards that one thing.
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Right. And you miss a lot of stuff.
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Like famously, any, any athlete will tell you, right?
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That from the age of five, you miss
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as a kid it's birthday parties and graduations.
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And then as an adult it's, it's weddings and births
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and funerals and all sorts of things, right?
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And then that's no longer your main thing.
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You no longer wake up every morning with the thought of,
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okay, how am I a better racing driver today?
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What do I have to do today to get better at what I do?
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And you have this freedom to say yes to things that for 20,
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30 years you've had to say no to.
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Is that kind of what it was like for you?
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Or that's why the yeses kept coming?
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'cause you're just like, I've never
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been able to say yes to this.
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Yeah. And that, and that could be stuff
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that you weren't allowed to do because of your contract.
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Right. Um, and I, you know, you drove with the Andre guys,
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you probably saw a lot
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of the Dario clauses in the contract because
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the no fun clause.
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Yeah, the no fun clause.
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I mean, I, I, I would ride motorbikes.
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I brought my back on a motorbike.
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There was a clause in there about motorbikes.
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I went racing historic cars at Goodwood.
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Uh, I had a wheel fall off. I woke up in hospital.
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I missed a race. no more. No historic stuff.
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So, um, it's a, it's a very, you're, you're very targeted,
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as you say, in what you do.
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Every waking moment is, is, uh, right.
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Racing, racing, racing, actually, you know,
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you're even bloody dreaming about it at times.
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I used to keep a notepad next to the bed in case I, um,
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figured out, uh,
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why we had this issue at Indianapolis
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Qualifying, whatever it, it was.
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So now it's just pure. Yeah.
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It's just that ability to, to have those experiences
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and, um, enjoy the, the world a bit more.
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that I had has allowed me the, the opportunity
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to get to do these things.
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So it's a, it's an absolute blessing.
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And, you know, I think it's very important I
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that I say this, the life that I got to, like the life
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that you have have lived as well.
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The opportunities we had, they were
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the stuff we dreamed of as kids.
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So we're, we're very, very lucky.
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And I, I, you know, I, I think I speak for you too.
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We're not sitting here going, oh, we're so, you know,
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we lived such a sheltered
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life and we weren't allowed to do this .
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It was bloody, it was brilliant. It was the coolest thing.
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Um, but it was fully focused and all encompassing.
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So I, one of the things that I've always, um,
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loved following along
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with your post full-time indie car career was getting
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back in the historic stuff.
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'cause I absolutely love that.
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My real introduction
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to racing was my dad going vintage racing up in Canada.
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And so I've always had a soft spot for that.
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Goodwood has always been something that I've died.
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I'm dying to do it one day.
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I'm so, I love watching every year.
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You and, and Scott and Jimmy
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and all, you know, Marino, everybody there doing it.
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It looks phenomenal.
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Just, just walk me through, you know, the revival festival,
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or sorry, the revival and,
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and like what that weekend's like,
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because it is an absolute bucket list.
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I haven't managed to walk away from
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the full-time schedule yet.
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I'm not driving anymore, but I'm, you know,
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I'm still at every single race.
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So I don't have that window normally to go
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Come this year, come and do it.
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I think it's after. In fact, it is,
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it's after the last race. James, James,
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We could arrange it.
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So you don't work for Fox anymore?
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There's just a couple things. Well, hang on.
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You can say, or a couple things. I could
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Just not cut . Like,
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Like we could make that happen
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today,
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Yeah. Yeah. It's maybe not that badly, but yes.
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Anyway, just walk me
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through the weekend. 'cause it looks like a blast.
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I, I did my first revival in 2005. Uh, showed up.
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I was teamed with Emma and Willie Pirro.
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We won the, the big race, the tts, like, this is easy,
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it's fun, really good fun, great event.
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Uh, lovely cars. The next year I went back,
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I had a wheel fall off the E type.
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I woke up in, in hospital,
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literally woke up staring at a
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ceiling, not knowing where I was.
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I looked over and Adrian knew he was in the next bed to me.
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So that was the very much, the two .
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I thought it was a hell of a weird dream.
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But that was the, the two sides of of , of Goodwood.
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And, um, yeah, I went back, same
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Crash or different crashes.
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Different crashes.
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We, we crashed within about five minutes of each other.
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Different, different crashes, different ambulances.
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Same, same, same rooms.
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And uh, so I went back, um, I, I'd go to the festival,
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I think we did the festival in 2011,
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which is up the hill climb.
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And the Duke said, you know, you should come back
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and do the revival again.
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Of course, then I have my accident.
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And he was so kind, he phoned and said, just come along.
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I know you can't race, but just come along, be part of it.
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Do demonstrations. Do you know, just, just come along.
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So Ellie and I did that.
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We've had some of our greatest memories there as a,
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as a family, including Marino and Holly as well.
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Um, the kids do the pedal car race.
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Um, and 2019, I thought, I really, I want to race again.
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I was feeling the effects of the, the,
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the big accident in Houston sort of really diminished.
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Um, and I, I sort of went to the doctors, I went to, to the,
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all the stakeholders and said, look, I'd like to do this.
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And there was some conversations and they said, sure.
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So it was very much, I was a bit nervous.
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I was sitting on the grid in a
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Ferrari two 50 short wheel base, my first race back,
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and the car worse, I dunno, 15 million bucks.
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Beauty. Yeah. . Yeah.
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I'm saying, okay, I'm gonna be calm here. Nice.
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And you know, within, I dunno,
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50 meters, I was four wide, two wheels on the grass.
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Right back in it. Right back in
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It.
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You can't not, you can't not.
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No, exactly. So, um, I've raced there since then.
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I've done the spa six hour, um, in the GT 40.
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Uh, we were fortunate enough, Marino and I, and,
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and Andre Ter won that a couple years ago.
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Um, then, you know, all kinds of things.
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Maserati Mc 12, uh, as the Martin Dbr, R nine at Lamar,
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which was a absolute bucket list item for me.
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Um, and then more recently in Dubai in the, uh, the 24 hour,
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um, with some great friends of mine, you know,
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Sean and, and Max Lynn.
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Uh, Rob Puff was there too.
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But Sean's been just a great friend
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and he's allowed me to drive, you know, including his GT 40,
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um, at spa.
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So the, that was race was very much a bunch
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of buddies going out and, uh, and driving a more modern car.
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But, um, yeah, so it's, the list of cars has been,
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has been wide and varied.
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Um, but I love, I love the revival. You must do it, James.
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It's, you know, Jimmy's come and done it with us now.
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Marino obviously does it every year. Um, TK came along.
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Dixie's come along, right? Dixie and I shared a car.
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Jimmy and I shared a car.
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Um, Jimmy
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and I shared Sterling Moss's, um, 1960 db,
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uh, DB four gt.
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Um, Jimmy might have put a, a small dent in
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it,
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Um, and,
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but then we, the guys fixed it for the next day and we won the race.
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So that was, uh, that was fun.
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But it, it, it is just come bring Becky. Come along.
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Yeah, you will. It, it, it,
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it's like being in a time machine.
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Every single person. Yeah, every fan, every spectator,
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everybody dresses in period dress.
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Yeah. Everybody gets into it. It's the biggest movie set.
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And, um, but then you get on the track
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and nobody's hanging around.
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Matt, you are on the limit. Oh, I've,
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I've seen the videos,
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I've seen the boards, I've seen it all.
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You guys are all absolutely mental.
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And yes, I would love to be a part of it.
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, I would love to throw my hat in that rink. Let's do it.
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Flight of my alley. So the, the historic stuff, the,
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you know, whether it's at Goodwood,
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whether it's at Spa Lamont, like you say,
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you got into now more modern car
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and did the 24 hours of Dubai.
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I bet it was fun doing a 24 hour race again.
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Uh, I imagine Daytona at some point was your last
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time doing a 24.
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Yeah, it would've been, yeah, 2013. There
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You go.
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So, uh, a return to the, the no sleep, uh, program.
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A little bit different than historic racing,
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but, um, you have, uh, now something else coming
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that has just been announced
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and, uh, I mean, it's, it's a bit of a throwback.
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It's also completely new in a lot of ways.
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Tell us about your upcoming race at St. Pete.
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Yeah, so I am driving
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a Toyota truck.
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It's in St. Pete on the Saturday
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before the IndyCar race, I'm driving
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for Tricon in the number $1 Tree Toyota .
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And there you go. Yeah, how about that?
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It was the, it was one of those throwaway conversations
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with, with Jimmy Johnson just talking about,
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um, involved a glass of wine.
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And we were sitting having a chat,
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and I said to him, did you see this,
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uh, St Pete thing?
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And I said, it's cool, you know, I'd love to, I'd love St.
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Pete, I'd love to do it, blah, blah, blah.
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Uh, I'd love to have driven an Indy car there again,
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but that's just, you know, not possible.
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Um, and so he got this kind of odd look in his eye .
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And the next morning he, he calls me
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and he says, Hey, found your truck .
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What? And I thought he sort of meant he found a truck
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around the back of the, the workshop
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or something at Legacy Motor Club .
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But he, then he explains, no, it's, um,
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it's tricon, it's to, to truck.
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It's a development truck.
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And then he sort of let me in the secret
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that he would be driving it later in the year in San Diego.
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Um, and I've watched the, the, the Charlotte RL the week
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before I'd been up in, up in New York, and I watched it
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and they'd won and they won the championship.
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And I'm thinking, this is, this is a legit truck.
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So basically it's a good team if we Yeah, it's a good team.
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If we suck, it's not the equipment , which is,
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which is good and bad.
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So that, that's the whole, that's the whole story.
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It's just, um, yeah, I, I've had, I've some,
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a throwaway line, but I I I love website.
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You, I love pushing myself. I love testing myself.
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I love, I love driving.
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And that's one odd thing to say,
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but when I was competing, it was not about the enjoyment
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of the act of driving.
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It was about winning.
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And it was about the process of putting every,
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all the pieces together to win.
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And when I stopped
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and I started doing some of the historic stuff,
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I realized I loved the act of driving a car
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and trying to find its limits and all that stuff.
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And that's, that's really what, what this is about.
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That's the, you know, it's the fun,
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but it's the pushing yourself and the testing yourself.
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How many other conversations are you just gonna try
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and slip things in, like, ah, gee, Dan, you know,
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those Cadillacs look like they'd be fun to drive if you need
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anybody
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Yeah. That's, uh, you know, once we'll see , the thing is,
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that's what happens with Jimmy.
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You have these conversations with them,
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and then the next thing you know, you're, I mean, there,
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there's some stuff that he's up to this year,
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and I can't, I can't talk about that yet,
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but there's some of the situations I found myself in
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and some of the parts of the world with Jimmy last year,
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just going, how in the hell did I get here?
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And why am I entrusting this lunatic to,
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to take me on this experience?
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You know, skiing with Jimmy is, um, um,
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I'm quite a cautious skier.
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Some of that's because of the injuries I've done to myself.
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But we were on top of a mountain.
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He hadn't been there before. I knew the mountain.
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And we get off the chair and there's these two tracks,
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and there'd be a big dump of powder.
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And there's these two tracks just going off the edge.
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I know where it goes. He doesn't, off, off he goes
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flat out over the edge.
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So we thought we had the best rundown.
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I said, jj, how do you, how did you know
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what was on the other side of those tracks over that hill?
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You said, well, well, someone's gone over there before me.
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'cause there was tracks. I figured it was okay.
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It's the rollercoaster mentality.
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This is, this is how I got over.
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My fear of rollercoasters as a kid is you stand in line
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and you watch the rollercoaster go away, and then a minute
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and a half later it comes back
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and I'm like, everybody is accounted for.
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Everybody's uninjured.
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So as much as I might not like this,
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I'm going to survive this.
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And I will figure it out. And I I got it
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because someone else has already done it,
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so I will survive it.
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And it's a little bit different skiing off the side of a,
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of a cliff, but it's the same kind
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of mentality. What a lunatic.
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It's the same kind of madness. Exactly. Right.
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When was the last time that you drove a stock car
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or anything in that realm?
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I actually sort of, we were talking about the day I,
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I realized, yeah, I raced, uh, IROC car.
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Okay. In, uh, in Laguna Seca last year.
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Um, I was there for the historics.
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I was there with doing, um, Gordon Murray work with,
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with customers and launching a couple of cars at Quail.
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And, um, so Bruce Cannabis said,
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Hey, you should come and do this.
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Ray NUMs doing the whole thing, and,
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and they've got all these cars
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and Jeff Gordon's gonna be there, Kurt Bus,
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um, all these cool guys.
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And, um, I said, sure.
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So they put me in this complete old <inaudible> box ,
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and I, I did, I did two laps in it.
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And when the fire extinguisher came across the car
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and tried to attack me, I decided that was not the car
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for me anyway.
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So I went, uh, I said, okay, thanks for that. Appreciate it.
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Um, but then Rob Kaufman said, Hey, I've got my car.
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I'm racing something else. Would you like to drive it?
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So I, so I jumped in it.
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Um, my, my first lap in the car was the warmup lap
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of the race, and it went well.
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I think I finished second. Um, which given the company was,
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was I was happy with.
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And it felt good. So that was my last,
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uh, that was my last go.
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I think before that I might have been Watkins Glen
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in a, of course.
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See, I, at the time it was a nationwide series, um,
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when I qualified Jimmy, I just wanna get that in there.
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I qualified on coal, the nationwide , the Nationwide series.
493
00:20:27.775 --> 00:20:31.195
Um, and uh, you know, if you look at the field now,
494
00:20:31.555 --> 00:20:32.635
I feel pretty good about that one.
495
00:20:32.865 --> 00:20:37.555
That makes up for me not qualifying at, uh, Sonoma, which
496
00:20:38.605 --> 00:20:41.065
was, uh, yeah, it was a bit of a shock to Chip
497
00:20:41.065 --> 00:20:43.025
and I back in 2008,
498
00:20:43.025 --> 00:20:45.265
but that's, that was, um, that was probably the last couple
499
00:20:45.265 --> 00:20:49.775
of times I drove, um, a stock car vehicle. As Jimmy would
500
00:20:49.775 --> 00:20:50.775
Say.
501
00:20:50.775 --> 00:20:52.215
I mean, you've done a lot of laps around St.
502
00:20:52.215 --> 00:20:54.455
Pete in an Indy car. Have you ever done a truck start?
503
00:20:54.455 --> 00:20:55.455
Have you ever done a truck race?
504
00:20:56.955 --> 00:20:59.895
Yes. Sorry. Oh, I love this. I
505
00:21:00.335 --> 00:21:01.335
I already love this.
506
00:21:01.675 --> 00:21:06.415
Oh, I, when I was starting my ill-fated NASCAR experience
507
00:21:06.435 --> 00:21:07.575
of 2008
508
00:21:07.835 --> 00:21:08.975
and then end of oh seven,
509
00:21:09.605 --> 00:21:13.805
chip was just putting me in anything, um, to, to try
510
00:21:13.805 --> 00:21:16.245
and get experience, arc of cars, all that stuff.
511
00:21:16.245 --> 00:21:18.965
And he said, and this is why I was a bit of PTSD,
512
00:21:18.965 --> 00:21:20.245
when Jimmy told me he'd found a truck
513
00:21:20.245 --> 00:21:22.285
because Chip said, Hey, I found you a truck.
514
00:21:22.455 --> 00:21:25.085
We're gonna do Martinsville to get you experience.
515
00:21:25.505 --> 00:21:27.795
Anyway, it wasn't a great truck.
516
00:21:28.255 --> 00:21:31.195
Um, and that shot is, I crashed
517
00:21:31.195 --> 00:21:32.995
and I think I crashed with Jacque Vov.
518
00:21:33.075 --> 00:21:34.355
I think Jacque was into the race.
519
00:21:35.515 --> 00:21:38.335
Um, it's like an odd, it's probably a very odd, um,
520
00:21:38.675 --> 00:21:39.775
bar quiz type question,
521
00:21:39.835 --> 00:21:42.055
but I believe Jacque and I crashed together.
522
00:21:42.135 --> 00:21:43.175
I had no rear brakes.
523
00:21:43.595 --> 00:21:47.535
Um, so that wasn't great, to be honest.
524
00:21:47.535 --> 00:21:49.215
So I'm hoping for better things than St. Pete.
525
00:21:49.325 --> 00:21:52.095
Well, yeah, I mean, hopefully there's no, uh, you know,
526
00:21:53.135 --> 00:21:56.135
Canadian former indie car drivers that, uh,
527
00:21:56.155 --> 00:21:57.375
can run into you and, and,
528
00:21:57.715 --> 00:22:01.655
And
Ruin your, you know, second truck start. But
529
00:22:01.685 --> 00:22:03.055
That would be a, that would be
530
00:22:03.055 --> 00:22:04.055
embarrassing
.
531
00:22:04.895 --> 00:22:06.215
Yeah. Yeah. It'd be be weird.
532
00:22:06.315 --> 00:22:08.095
You've done a lot of laps around St. Pete.
533
00:22:08.595 --> 00:22:11.775
You've done no laps in a truck that turned right,
534
00:22:11.915 --> 00:22:14.935
at least intentionally, uh, not sure exactly
535
00:22:14.935 --> 00:22:16.175
how you crash at Martinsville, but you know,
536
00:22:16.175 --> 00:22:17.495
maybe there was a correction involved.
537
00:22:18.725 --> 00:22:20.335
What are you anticipating?
538
00:22:20.575 --> 00:22:24.495
I mean, like the, the difference between a single seater,
539
00:22:24.525 --> 00:22:29.095
high down force, high horsepower, big fat tire car versus
540
00:22:29.655 --> 00:22:30.975
a also high horsepower,
541
00:22:31.115 --> 00:22:35.895
but heavy skinny tire no down force truck.
542
00:22:36.695 --> 00:22:39.695
I mean, it is gonna be like a completely different, I mean,
543
00:22:40.085 --> 00:22:42.895
does track knowledge actually really help you in this case?
544
00:22:42.895 --> 00:22:45.175
Because all your references are completely useless?
545
00:22:45.975 --> 00:22:48.575
I, yeah, I think the, the, if I,
546
00:22:48.775 --> 00:22:50.975
I can literally close my eyes now and play a lap of St.
547
00:22:50.975 --> 00:22:52.415
Pete and IndyCar in my head.
548
00:22:52.775 --> 00:22:55.135
I know the bumps, you know, I know the, the, the curves,
549
00:22:55.195 --> 00:22:56.895
the worth to position it, all that stuff.
550
00:22:56.895 --> 00:23:00.655
And, you know, as part of my, my job at <inaudible>
551
00:23:00.655 --> 00:23:03.855
as an advisor, I, I, I'm still, you know,
552
00:23:04.105 --> 00:23:05.175
fully plugged in there.
553
00:23:05.875 --> 00:23:08.415
I'm gonna get in this truck that yeah,
554
00:23:08.515 --> 00:23:11.095
you're gonna be breaking a lot, a lot earlier.
555
00:23:11.125 --> 00:23:12.735
It's gonna feel a lot different.
556
00:23:13.015 --> 00:23:16.295
I think tech knowledge will help though to start with, um,
557
00:23:16.895 --> 00:23:19.375
I think the way the weekends works out Friday night is
558
00:23:19.375 --> 00:23:22.175
that 50 minute practice straight into qualifying.
559
00:23:22.435 --> 00:23:25.375
Um, so the good thing there is the guys
560
00:23:25.375 --> 00:23:28.285
that know the trucks really well are not gonna have time
561
00:23:28.285 --> 00:23:31.045
to go and analyze data and, and cameras and all that stuff
562
00:23:31.625 --> 00:23:34.525
and to, to kind of figure it out before qualifying,
563
00:23:34.705 --> 00:23:36.445
but they'll certainly figure out before the race.
564
00:23:36.545 --> 00:23:39.325
So if there is a track advantage, um,
565
00:23:39.865 --> 00:23:41.565
it will be gone pretty quickly.
566
00:23:41.705 --> 00:23:45.005
And I'm not, I'm not underestimating the talent level
567
00:23:45.465 --> 00:23:47.805
and the hunger in, in, in these
568
00:23:48.865 --> 00:23:51.085
mostly young kids coming up
569
00:23:51.505 --> 00:23:54.245
who want a shot at it's a big time enough they have
570
00:23:54.245 --> 00:23:58.605
to run over me to get into, uh, victory Lane
571
00:23:58.625 --> 00:24:00.445
or the next position up the track.
572
00:24:01.075 --> 00:24:02.285
They will definitely do it.
573
00:24:02.285 --> 00:24:04.325
So I'm, I'm under no illusions of, uh,
574
00:24:05.625 --> 00:24:06.845
of what to expect here.
575
00:24:07.065 --> 00:24:10.365
Um, but again, it's that testing yourself against, uh,
576
00:24:11.585 --> 00:24:14.765
you know, the track, the competition, trying
577
00:24:14.765 --> 00:24:16.765
to make this rock around St.
578
00:24:16.795 --> 00:24:18.805
Pete quickly trying to figure out, trying
579
00:24:18.805 --> 00:24:21.405
to make the tires last, trying to, you know,
580
00:24:21.465 --> 00:24:23.565
get yourself in a position in the race to,
581
00:24:23.565 --> 00:24:24.565
to have a good result.
582
00:24:24.795 --> 00:24:27.725
It's, um, that's the challenge that I'm, I'm looking for.
583
00:24:27.825 --> 00:24:29.645
And that's just the thing that I think people need
584
00:24:29.645 --> 00:24:30.925
to understand about, you know,
585
00:24:30.925 --> 00:24:32.165
jumping into something like this.
586
00:24:32.425 --> 00:24:34.765
Yes, there's the, the kind of obvious
587
00:24:34.865 --> 00:24:36.725
and straightforward side of figuring out how
588
00:24:36.725 --> 00:24:39.525
to make the truck go fast over a lap, right?
589
00:24:39.625 --> 00:24:41.125
But then it's, yeah.
590
00:24:41.125 --> 00:24:43.205
When was the last time you drove on this type of tire?
591
00:24:43.385 --> 00:24:45.005
How do you manage that over a stint?
592
00:24:45.125 --> 00:24:48.165
Restarts, I imagine are gonna be plentiful at St.
593
00:24:48.165 --> 00:24:50.685
Pete in the truck race. So how do you warm tires
594
00:24:50.825 --> 00:24:52.045
and how do you warm brakes
595
00:24:52.065 --> 00:24:53.605
and, you know, how do you approach the
596
00:24:53.605 --> 00:24:54.685
racecraft of a restart?
597
00:24:54.845 --> 00:24:56.045
'cause it's double wide restarts,
598
00:24:56.045 --> 00:24:58.725
which we've experienced in IndyCar with mixed success,
599
00:24:59.385 --> 00:25:01.485
but now going back to that, right?
600
00:25:01.485 --> 00:25:04.165
So there's, there's, so do you have to manage brakes?
601
00:25:04.165 --> 00:25:05.645
You know, obviously it's a, a street track.
602
00:25:05.705 --> 00:25:07.605
St Pete's always tough on brakes in an indie car.
603
00:25:07.605 --> 00:25:09.965
It's always hot. What's it gonna be like in a truck?
604
00:25:09.965 --> 00:25:11.445
Nobody even knows from the team side
605
00:25:11.565 --> 00:25:12.605
'cause it's the first time they've done it.
606
00:25:12.605 --> 00:25:13.805
So there's so many elements you
607
00:25:13.805 --> 00:25:14.845
gotta try to wrap your head around.
608
00:25:15.525 --> 00:25:18.165
Absolutely. And I think that the good side is, I,
609
00:25:18.405 --> 00:25:23.165
I have driven so many varied cars over the last five
610
00:25:23.265 --> 00:25:25.805
or or so years that I think, um,
611
00:25:26.155 --> 00:25:29.805
that adaptability is certainly better than it was when the
612
00:25:29.805 --> 00:25:32.165
only thing I was driving was an Indy car
613
00:25:32.165 --> 00:25:34.605
with an occasional jump into a sports car,
614
00:25:34.605 --> 00:25:36.445
a Daytona or particular loss.
615
00:25:36.525 --> 00:25:39.965
So I've got, I guess my brain is a bit more flexible now
616
00:25:39.965 --> 00:25:41.965
and trying to figure out how to make something go quick.
617
00:25:42.065 --> 00:25:43.445
So hopefully I can,
618
00:25:43.705 --> 00:25:47.445
and, um, you know, that's, yeah, that's the, that
619
00:25:47.445 --> 00:25:50.565
that is the goal to, I don't have a result in mind.
620
00:25:50.675 --> 00:25:52.805
It's not, that's not how I'm gonna gauge success.
621
00:25:52.825 --> 00:25:54.445
And it obviously you wanna win, right?
622
00:25:54.945 --> 00:25:56.365
But if I do a good job
623
00:25:56.505 --> 00:25:58.285
and I feel at the end of it I've had a good time,
624
00:25:58.315 --> 00:26:02.085
I've had this word fun, then you know, I'll, uh,
625
00:26:02.635 --> 00:26:03.885
I'll go, I'll go away happy.
626
00:26:03.945 --> 00:26:05.525
You know, Jimmy's gonna be on the box.
627
00:26:06.485 --> 00:26:07.765
I was, that was my next question. .
628
00:26:10.595 --> 00:26:13.445
Yeah. My crew chief's probably gonna have to like,
629
00:26:14.145 --> 00:26:16.045
cut his cord on his radio or something.
630
00:26:16.285 --> 00:26:17.765
'cause I'm sure he is gonna be giving me advice
631
00:26:17.765 --> 00:26:18.925
being a team owner now.
632
00:26:19.585 --> 00:26:21.205
Um, you know, I've, I've had some
633
00:26:21.205 --> 00:26:22.645
of the best team owners in the business.
634
00:26:22.675 --> 00:26:24.005
I've had, you know, some
635
00:26:24.005 --> 00:26:26.405
of chip sen's pep talks on the radio,
636
00:26:26.845 --> 00:26:29.005
a legendary there might get chip up there too.
637
00:26:29.025 --> 00:26:33.045
We could get chip up there, Jimmy, um, a crew chief and,
638
00:26:33.145 --> 00:26:34.765
and, and all giving advice
639
00:26:34.875 --> 00:26:36.365
what could possibly go wrong. Well,
640
00:26:36.365 --> 00:26:37.525
If you, if you need a spotter
641
00:26:37.525 --> 00:26:39.005
for turn one or anything, just let me know. .
642
00:26:39.705 --> 00:26:41.685
Um, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be,
643
00:26:41.685 --> 00:26:43.370
sounds like it's gonna be a fun cast
644
00:26:43.370 --> 00:26:44.565
of characters on the radio.
645
00:26:45.025 --> 00:26:48.405
And, uh, I know that that race is broadcast on Fox
646
00:26:48.505 --> 00:26:51.285
and I cannot wait for our team to get
647
00:26:51.285 --> 00:26:53.125
to dive into this story a little deeper. .
648
00:26:53.945 --> 00:26:55.925
Um, but by James,
649
00:26:56.125 --> 00:26:58.125
I really, James, James, we haven't even got into the fact
650
00:26:58.125 --> 00:27:02.925
that these guys that week in, week out who are quite good,
651
00:27:03.755 --> 00:27:06.975
you know, Kiffin Simpson, Scott Dixon, Alex below these guys
652
00:27:06.975 --> 00:27:09.895
that I tell what they're doing wrong week in,
653
00:27:09.895 --> 00:27:11.575
week out and give them a hard time.
654
00:27:12.445 --> 00:27:13.815
Yeah.
They're gonna be watching
655
00:27:14.155 --> 00:27:15.735
and they're gonna be critiquing
656
00:27:15.795 --> 00:27:17.015
and they're gonna be laughing.
657
00:27:17.015 --> 00:27:18.335
Yeah. And yeah,
658
00:27:18.355 --> 00:27:22.345
my biggest worry right now is they're gonna just see, uh,
659
00:27:22.725 --> 00:27:24.705
how bad I am now.
660
00:27:24.885 --> 00:27:27.985
And I, I, one of my, one of my lines that I always use
661
00:27:27.985 --> 00:27:30.745
with them is don't do as I did, do as I see
662
00:27:31.595 --> 00:27:32.945
Right? And they just exactly right.
663
00:27:33.685 --> 00:27:35.105
And then I get a hand signal from them
664
00:27:35.105 --> 00:27:36.225
that I probably shouldn't do here. ,
665
00:27:38.965 --> 00:27:41.665
The teacher becomes the student once again
666
00:27:42.005 --> 00:27:44.265
and Oh yes, I can imagine they're all,
667
00:27:44.265 --> 00:27:46.105
they're all rubbing their hands with, uh,
668
00:27:46.335 --> 00:27:48.905
glee at the opportunity to, well, you know,
669
00:27:48.925 --> 00:27:51.385
you could have maybe rolled a little bit more mid corner
670
00:27:51.475 --> 00:27:52.905
speed in turn one there pal.
671
00:27:54.465 --> 00:27:56.265
I think you think
About opening up the entry,
672
00:27:56.665 --> 00:27:58.385
There'll be more direct feedback.
673
00:27:58.545 --> 00:28:00.225
I was like, what the hell were you doing
674
00:28:00.225 --> 00:28:01.225
there?
?
675
00:28:01.645 --> 00:28:03.225
Do you wanna talk me through that one?
676
00:28:06.345 --> 00:28:08.265
I think they should all get radios as well
677
00:28:08.445 --> 00:28:11.385
and should be able to chime in with real time feedback.
678
00:28:12.005 --> 00:28:15.665
No, ,
I'm gonna suggest that I'm gonna give JJ a call
679
00:28:15.825 --> 00:28:17.625
and be like, Hey, have a great idea.
680
00:28:18.085 --> 00:28:20.185
Uh, it's gonna go, it's gonna go great for broadcast
681
00:28:20.345 --> 00:28:22.105
'cause we'll just leave the, your channel open
682
00:28:22.125 --> 00:28:23.465
to the broadcast the whole time
683
00:28:23.685 --> 00:28:26.265
and just, uh, capture all the
684
00:28:26.265 --> 00:28:27.265
Madness.
685
00:28:27.265 --> 00:28:27.825
Be careful what you wish for.
686
00:28:27.825 --> 00:28:30.505
James
. Touche, my friend. Touche.
687
00:28:31.085 --> 00:28:33.785
Uh, well look, thank you so much for taking the time, buddy.
688
00:28:33.805 --> 00:28:35.145
We are all super excited
689
00:28:35.145 --> 00:28:37.145
to see you returning to an indie car track.
690
00:28:37.145 --> 00:28:38.345
Like, let's call it what it is.
691
00:28:38.345 --> 00:28:40.065
You've, you've been racing, you've done other stuff,
692
00:28:40.085 --> 00:28:41.185
but it's never near us.
693
00:28:41.575 --> 00:28:42.945
It's never near so many of the people
694
00:28:43.015 --> 00:28:45.385
that have cheered you on and have been there
695
00:28:45.405 --> 00:28:47.625
and watched you, you know, succeed, uh,
696
00:28:47.725 --> 00:28:48.985
so much here in North America.
697
00:28:49.505 --> 00:28:51.865
I know there's gonna be a lot of people thrilled to see that
698
00:28:52.405 --> 00:28:54.265
iconic helmet go back on
699
00:28:54.685 --> 00:28:57.025
and, uh, be able to cheer for you on an indie car weekend.
700
00:28:57.125 --> 00:28:58.505
So I wish you the best of luck.
701
00:28:58.645 --> 00:29:00.145
Cannot wait to see you down there.
702
00:29:00.565 --> 00:29:02.745
And, uh, and again, thanks for taking the time today. Thanks
703
00:29:02.745 --> 00:29:03.745
Boys.
704
00:29:03.745 --> 00:29:04.225
I'm really excited to do this.
705
00:29:05.855 --> 00:29:07.585
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