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This is off track.
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All right. Welcome to Off Track with Hinch or Rossi,
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because Alex here, where is Rossie?
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He's working, man. He's a working, he's a working
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Guy.
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He doesn't work at all. We know that. Anyway, so we
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Just really wanted to rub it in
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because like, he can't use the fact that he's a dad
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because you're now also a dad. Like, so we,
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Two thirds of this group are dads right now?
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Yeah, he's a rookie man. He's a
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rookie.
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He's a rookie.
I'm a rookie too,
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but, uh, no, I, I'm in between Matt naps right down
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and like Lucy's room's like right there.
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So I'm like kind. I've gotta keep
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it down, but I'm not too bad.
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I be okay anyway. And
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But you don't have your, do you have your ear,
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you don't even have your like pods in?
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No, I just run like a speakerphone thing.
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Yeah, but that means she can hear us.
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No, no, no. It's not that loud.
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I mean, if I, if she can't hear
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me, so she, you'll be alright.
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James. We should keep it down.
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Yeah, we should quiet. Should be nice and quiet.
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How is, how is dad life? How is dad life going?
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That's good. Um, it's, it's, it's, uh,
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a lot on Carly to be honest.
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Like, you know, with the stretch that we've had.
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And, uh, she's a superstar as we all know,
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and you guys met her, whatever, but we, we, uh, yeah,
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I'm very lucky to have her
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'cause I think it would be a different thing.
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But I, I, I said to Carly though, I would love them
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to come to more races.
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They didn't come to me this year just
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because of just how hard it's to get around.
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But like, I, I just love having them at the races,
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so they're gonna come to more Yeah.
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Nashville, so. Oh, nice.
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Nice.
But loving it man. Loving it.
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Lucy's getting bigger. She just turned 10 months old.
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Um, yeah, she's awesome. She's awesome. So
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That
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Is that the plan then for next year when she's a little
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bigger, maybe a little easier to travel with?
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Like is it, has she been harder to travel with?
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I know some kids I think's getting caught kind
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of conduit naturally she's getting harder.
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Oh. 'cause now she, she can move more. She's getting
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Like, like we thought, like, oh, we're, we went
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to, uh, lady's wedding.
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It was in Aspen, Colorado. Right.
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So it was a couple of flights to get there in December.
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She was a couple months old. Easiest dream. Yeah.
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Dream thing we've ever done. She just slept and ate.
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That's all she, she did.
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Now she's like, you know, a bit more alive
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and wants to play with things
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and you know, like I'm a big fan fan, not a big fan of, um,
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picking someone's seat or like touching it and, and,
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and she sort of touches it.
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I'm like, no, no, no, don't do that.
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Like, I'm like, because I just know what that feels like.
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Right. . Yeah. So, yeah. Never be that guy.
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Don't become the person you hate. Yeah,
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Yeah.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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So you just gotta get onto that on that PJ program, bro.
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Then it's dead easy. Oh
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Yeah.
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No, I'm not. I need to win a few more.
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I need to be like Alex Pallo type stats.
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I get one of those ,
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Dude.
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How let's, I mean, let's, let's talk about it.
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Let's talk about Alex Pal below season's over.
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I mean, he's won it. Yeah.
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How, what's, what's I, I do want to get
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to like your season kind of in totality
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and like the, the kind of Team Penske anomaly
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that's been 20, 25, but as one of the guys on the grid.
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I mean, obviously we hear from Alex every week
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and, um, he's very upset
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that next week's show we're gonna be talking
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a little bit about Pelosi season.
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He's like, I'm over it. But as another guy
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that's on the track with him, just like, what's it been like
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for you in 2025, just kind of seeing Alex's season? Yeah,
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Look, you know, you come in with a lot of hope,
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um, every year.
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And, and I felt like, you know, especially
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after the year we had last year, I thought, you know,
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he's definitely someone that, um, you know, I didn't,
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I didn't personally didn't think he was probably gonna
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have the season that he is had.
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Um, I thought he would be good. Like, he's always good.
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But he, he has been incredible.
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Um, that team's been incredible. I haven't made mistakes.
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They've, they've capitalized when they've got a good break
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in strategy, they've capitalized when they've had a bad
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break and figured it out something else to,
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to make it all happen again.
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You know, they've, they've dotted their,
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i's across their t's and you've gotta head it to 'em,
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you know, and he's, he's an elite driver.
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Um, I mean there's, there's many elite drivers in the field,
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um, of course, but he's just in a spot right now.
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You know, his car's working for him.
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They've obviously got a good understanding of the tire.
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There's, um, you know, Honda's strong as well, you know,
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Chevy's working, working hard
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to be better like next year as well.
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You know, it's gonna be, look, we want to be stronger
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and be able to attack these guys.
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Um, but you've gotta hand to 'em, you know, you throw,
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uh, pressure at him.
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Um, he doesn't make mistakes. He's always qualifying.
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Well, he's got, he's got all the ingredients
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to put together a campaign.
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Like he has this sheer and all we can do is
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learn from it and be better.
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And that's how I'm looking at it from my
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perspective, uh, as a driver.
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You know, I, I've gotta be, uh,
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little things I've gotta improve on every year,
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but like, even more so,
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because the gap is just, you know, he's, he's taken
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that next step
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and, uh, you know, I'm like, Alex, you hate it.
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You know, you hate it when you're not, not the,
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not the dude, but you.
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All you can do is one, appreciate what he's doing,
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but look at where you can improve
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and to be that guy for yourself.
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And, um, yeah, I I, you, you know,
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you have, there's only one way you can go from the top
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is down.
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For sure. For sure. So,
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and I'm, I feel like I'm at the bottom,
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so I, I, I gotta up .
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So, um, you know, I think it's a, I I I,
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I've been in this position in my career before in Supercars.
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I, I know how hard it is to maintain that level.
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And what he's doing is, is, is very impressive and,
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and a category that's so, so competitive as we all know.
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So, um, yeah.
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Full credit to him and, and,
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and honestly like, it's annoying 'cause he's a good guy. .
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Yeah. I wish, wish
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You wanna hate him a little more. I wish he had
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A <inaudible> shit. I just like
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Would that it would
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make, that would make it easier, right? Like,
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I mean, yeah, he is like, I, I, I guess so he's,
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he's a great dad.
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He's a great husband. Esther's a fantastic person.
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His wife, um, they're like great parents.
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Their little girl, uh, Lua is, is is beautiful
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and like best friends with ca with Lucy.
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And it's like, what are we doing here?
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Like, this guy's just really good ,
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but, um, you know, look, we, uh, we're gonna be better
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and there's no doubt we can beat him.
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It's just for sure. You just gotta
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put, you gotta put everything together.
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And, and, and he's done that this year.
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So when a, when a guy's having, let's look at it this way.
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You, you know, we're, we're what,
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15 races now into a 17 race championship.
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Um, you got two tracks coming up
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that I know you like and are very good at.
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So I'm just, I'm gonna say it this way as delicately
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as I can, having not won yet, right.
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Full faith that it can still happen in 2025.
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But getting this far into the season
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and having not won, is it almost easier that
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that one guy has won
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so much rather than like 10 different guys having won races
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only, only now as of Portland, five,
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a fifth guy finally won in Portland.
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But with one dude having so much success,
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like if he wins another race, you kinda like, yeah, okay.
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Figure, like, but if it's a,
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if it's another driver getting his first of the season,
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are you more like, yeah, I wish that was me.
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I mean, yeah, I, I I don't really look at it like that,
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you know, I just, I, I want to like,
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I think anytime you just wanna win as many as you can,
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and that he's obviously done that.
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And I don't really care who's winning.
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It's just, I, I would, I don't want him
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to be anyone else but myself. ,
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right? Yeah. So it's, you know, that's just a race driver,
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you know, and you get that.
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Um, I think, uh, I had a really good point.
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I was gonna say this then, and I,
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and I like literally slipped my mind.
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It was actually gonna be a great point,
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but No, I I was gonna be so good.
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Yeah. No, no, look, oh no, sorry.
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It is, I found it, um, below, like, at the start
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of the season, like before, before Indie
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and whatever, you know, he won all those races
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and I felt like I had one of the best seasons,
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like Best Start outside of Thermal.
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I had a very good start, like a solid start.
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I'd been very up and down in other seasons,
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but then you looked at the gap
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and he was like a hundred points ahead of second.
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And I was behind that. I was like 130 points off.
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But you sort of took, if you took him away
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or whatever, you'd be like, oh,
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that was pretty, pretty good start.
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But then, you know, my average finish was better,
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but then you just can't look at it that way, you know,
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like I said, he's raised the level
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and it's the full credit to him.
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It's, it's just part of it, and you just gotta learn.
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So Power got the win in Portland first win
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for Team Penske in 2025, which, you know,
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we were talking a lot, we've been
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talking a lot on the broadcast.
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I hate to say it, about the struggles that the teams had.
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You know, the, the last time they had a Winless
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season was a 99.
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From your perspective on the, at least we can say
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that's not gonna be a thing.
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Now we're not breaking that record.
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But from your position on the inside, what, what is,
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what has gone wrong this year?
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Or what is it that is kind
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of preventing this team from having the, like,
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massive amounts of success?
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I mean, we're used to all three
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of you guys having multiple wins in a season,
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and right now we've got one between the three
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with 15 down and two to go.
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Is there a standout issue for you,
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or has it just kind of been a, a freak year?
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I think it probably been latter, to be honest.
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I mean, like, obviously Below has been very strong,
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but I, I, there's been times where like we've all had
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chances to potentially win races.
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I mean, like, it was early days of that Detroit race,
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but I was head of Kirkwood
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and I hit Seagull and got a penalty.
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Like, I felt like I could have really controlled that race.
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Um, what, that was one that slipped out of our hands.
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I mean, you look at Joseph at Gateway,
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he could have won that race.
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Pete was looking really good.
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Obviously the strategy was, went a little bit of Ray there,
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but like, there's a lot of things that have happened
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that are outside our control, but also in our control.
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we've been on the back foot a little bit on road courses.
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I don't think our package, our package needs to improve.
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thought process right now is
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to be better on road courses next season.
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that's understanding the tire a little bit more, whether
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that's working with Chevy, whether just being improving
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in our department as well.
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But I definitely think throughout the year we've had a lot
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of, you know, things go outside of our control,
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whether it's just little strategy things
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or, um, mistakes by me, mistakes
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by the crew or something like that.
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And it just hasn't been a clean year,
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but I have to be honest,
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and I, I know you probably just think I'm just talking crap,
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but, you know, I genuinely
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believe we are the strongest we've ever been from a, uh,
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the three of us, the engineers,
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the way we're working together.
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Um, you know, I feel like there's always like these peaks
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and troughs that you go through and, and, and,
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and obviously it's been well documented.
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Like all the stuff that went on at Indie
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and the, the sackings and all that jazz,
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and that was, that turned a thing,
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few things upside down as well.
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But I thought through all that,
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and to this point, it's been really positive.
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The energy's really positive. Yeah. People want to be here.
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People want to succeed again.
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Um, I mean, even just Will's win on the weekend, like
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that was so good for the team.
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I was so happy for Will, I was so happy for everyone.
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Um, yeah, it's just, it's a really good environment to be
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around right now, honestly.
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And it probably doesn't look it, but it really is.
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I just, it's just, it's just things haven't gone that way
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and you just gotta believe that they will change
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and ride the ups and the downs.
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Yeah. I mean, team Penske didn't forget
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how to win races, right?
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No, that's, that's clearly not what's happened here.
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And it's great to hear that internally it gets all very
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positive because it is easy in those situations to kind
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of start having, you know, the, the thread on the sweater
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and it kind of starts going downhill.
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Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that I thought was really,
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really cool, and, and you could tell me if you think this
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contributed to like being able to just roll through
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what happened in May and,
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and continue, you know, working strong together, is
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they didn't bring anyone in from outside
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to fill any of those roles.
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Everybody was kind of moved around internally.
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So everybody that's now in a new position
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or has new responsibilities, they're from the family.
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They know the way of life.
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They know the way that things are done.
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And I gotta think that that's a much faster way to get,
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you know, back on the horse and back up
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to speed than if you'd brought someone in from somewhere
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else and they had to figure out how things worked
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and what they wanted to adjust.
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And there was a, you know, a, a transition period there.
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Yeah, I mean, it, it's, it's a testament to like the depth
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of talent that we have at the team.
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Um, the people that have worked there for so many years.
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I mean, the amount of people that are over 20 years
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of service to, to Penske and and their world is, is amazing.
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Um, Jonathan Travis, who are now running the team, like,
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you know, Jonathan was my engineer of 21.
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He is been around IndyCar for a long time before he went
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and did some sports car stuff, um, and still is doing that.
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And I think he's gonna be a great leader alongside Travis
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Law, who was, you know, Joseph's, uh,
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long time time sort of crew chief.
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Um, and then sort of, um, did his thing in sports cars.
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And, and I think what's really cool about those two guys is
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a lot of these people that are here at the moment, um,
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have worked with them for so many years, know how they work,
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know what they want, know their expectations.
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Um, but honestly, like the, it's nothing new to us.
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It's the, it's great to have that depth
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and people be able to go into different roles,
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but I feel like everyone just gets on the horse
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when we need to go and do something.
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It's just, there's, there's a,
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there's a great attitude in the, in the,
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and the team, you know, outside of all the stuff
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that's gone on or, or all the stuff over the last few years,
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I think, you know, everyone just gets on with it.
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I just get to the track and
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it's like, all right, this is what we gotta do.
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What are we gonna do to go fast?
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What are you, what are we gonna do
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to make you feel comfortable in the car?
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Scott, Joseph will, whatever.
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Um, it's a, it's a really good environment and,
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and it's been like that since 21.
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But it's, it's, I honestly think it's like there's a bit
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of like a, like a, you know, the start,
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the year's been hard, you know, the load has wiped us.
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It's how it is and it's like, it's put a lot of like,
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you know, like, um, I guess you could say motivation
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through the team to, to just be stronger
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and just from really excited.
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I see a lot of light at the end
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of the tunnel, you'd say. Yeah.
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It can galvanize a group too, right?
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Kind of being in a, in a rough situation,
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in a rough patch like that, it can actually bring people
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closer and, like you say, motivate them to want to go out
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and kick ass in an even better way.
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Yeah. Um, okay, so the other day on the broadcast, uh, ,
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my, my good buddy, my good buddy
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down threw, there's my buddy Townsend thoroughly.
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He's my buddy too.
No, no, no, I'm not, I wasn't,
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I wasn't insinuating anything else.
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He, you know, obviously there's a lot of talk around power
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and where he's gonna be next year
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and the whole power Lucas, whatever, saga.
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And, you know, we're sitting here watching Will, you know,
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on his way to winning the race and,
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and Townsend threw out a Hail Mary idea on
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how to keep power.
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But assuming that there's already some existing deal they
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can't get out of with Lucas,
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how do we keep power in a Penske car?
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And he's like, well,
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everybody in NASCAR right now is talking about this guy SVG
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and how great he is and how many races he is won.
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He's getting better on ovals and all this stuff.
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And who's the only guy that's ever beat?
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SVG heads up in the same series,
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same car, whatever, whatever.
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It's Scott McLaughlin. So Pence got a NASCAR team.
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Let's put Scottie Mackin a nascar, take it to SVG,
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and then everybody can live happily over
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the Penske IndyCar side.
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I'm assuming , this was not something you had ever heard
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as a theory or a potential scenario.
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Well, I'm not gonna comment on Will's
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situation or whatever's going on there.
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'cause I, I, I actually really dunno what's going on.
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But the, the fact of the situation of my, that, when
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that got sort of told, well, I had a few texts
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after the race, they're like, oh, you go to nascar.
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And I was like, what? ? And then like, like, and then Keith
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and Carly, my wife's like, what's going on there? That's
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My favorite part.
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Like, was coy, are we going to NASCAR ?
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Yeah. And like honestly, we had beers on, on on Sunday
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and, and I, I, I only heard like secondhand accounts,
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so I wanted to make sure before I said anything like, like
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I heard the quote straight away.
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And then I was like, after that we were just in my head and,
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and Brian Simpson who helped me with social, a good friend
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of mine, uh, we were a workshop on a few things.
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And, um, we just thought it'd be pretty funny
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to like hit back and, and, and, uh,
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and um, it wasn't even like a,
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it was just my whole Twitter feed.
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I don't know if you, it's either, it's either like I'm,
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I'm controversial or I'm like just
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taking the piss outta something. Yeah.
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It's just a fun sarcastic retort. Yeah, yeah,
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Yeah.
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And uh, yeah, I just said so
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So tell everybody what you said. Yeah.
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Uh, I said like, yeah, you should, I've got an idea.
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We should put Townsend on the sideline
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and the Big 10 network with Fox
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and put jack up in the booth with the boys.
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I said along those lines.
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And, uh, and,
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and I, I like posted this morning just thinking it might,
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it'd be like, I don't know, 200 likes,
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a couple retweets, whatever.
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And someone, someone might not even see it
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and it's just gone ballistic .
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Brian said it's on. You can't read it.
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There's like stuff going on everywhere, like, oh my God.
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So, um, I'm gonna go ahead and retweet it right now. Yeah.
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Even Hovis the, I ho Yeah, Hovis, the media
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media guy from Penske comes up, he goes, oh, so we,
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we now we've got beef with the Fox guys now .
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I'm like, no, I know. I don't have beef with anyone.
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And honestly, when I do have beef, I make fun
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of it and plug my sponsors.
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So like, it's like, it's, no, it's all good. Yeah,
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I, I think I, knowing town how I do, I'm sure he took
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that in a manner that it was intended, which is just
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All good fun.
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I hope I, I'm waiting for a text.
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If not, I'll will, I'll see him, I'll see him at the track,
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but I, I love taking the piss.
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It's fun.
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No, I was good. And, but like, it, it, it kind
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of got a conversation sort of going,
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or at least a thought train going.
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Like, have you ever,
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'cause when you first came over, like you were part
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of the Penske family over in Supercars right?
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And had your dominant stretch over there,
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and they were like, Hey,
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we're gonna take this kid to America.
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Mm-hmm . And you landed in IndyCar.
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I think a lot of people thought
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that initially the most common sense route for you
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to actually become over and do nascar.
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Mm-hmm . Was that ever a conversation that you had with,
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with Roger or with Tim?
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And if not, is it ever something
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that you've thought about wanting to do?
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I mean, we see you racing legend cars in Charlotte now.
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Yeah. You're getting your, your stock car fixed.
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Well, I mean, like, yeah, a lot
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of my friendship group here are NASCAR drivers,
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like Bubba Blaney, uh, Shane now.
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Um, it's, it's quite funny,
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but I think, uh, you know, initially, you know,
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maybe you could say 2018, I was like, okay,
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I like if there's ever a chance to go to America, you know,
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I'd love to do a, I do nascar.
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I mean, I've always followed IndyCar for a long, long time,
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and you knew that I came over
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to the hundredth Indy like a long time ago.
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Like, I love IndyCar.
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Um, and then it was like 2019, I,
492
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when I signed the deal with Penske in 2017, I said, Hey,
493
00:18:24.445 --> 00:18:25.645
I'd love to get to America one day.
494
00:18:25.645 --> 00:18:27.125
Like, that's just like my deal.
495
00:18:27.165 --> 00:18:28.765
I don't know what it would be in sports, car,
496
00:18:29.105 --> 00:18:30.405
nascar, whatever you need.
497
00:18:31.405 --> 00:18:32.525
I would love to just be there.
498
00:18:32.945 --> 00:18:34.925
Uh, that's before I met my wife and everything,
499
00:18:34.985 --> 00:18:36.285
but they were like, Hey, you went us
500
00:18:36.285 --> 00:18:38.165
to championship in a Bathurst and then we'll take you there.
501
00:18:38.675 --> 00:18:40.725
Okay. So I won a championship in 18,
502
00:18:40.725 --> 00:18:42.325
and then the conversation started happening.
503
00:18:42.865 --> 00:18:47.725
And then when I won Bathurst, uh, in, in 2019,
504
00:18:47.965 --> 00:18:48.965
I remember the Victory Lane,
505
00:18:49.115 --> 00:18:51.325
this is the very fast forward part of the story,
506
00:18:51.345 --> 00:18:52.565
but Roger came up to me
507
00:18:52.565 --> 00:18:53.765
and said, okay, it's time to go to America.
508
00:18:54.065 --> 00:18:55.405
And that was pretty cool. It was kinda like,
509
00:18:55.405 --> 00:18:57.045
I didn't have a contract, but it was like, oh,
510
00:18:57.045 --> 00:18:58.365
well it's, this is actually gonna happen.
511
00:18:58.745 --> 00:19:03.165
But about June that year, I sort of spoke to TC about,
512
00:19:03.825 --> 00:19:07.045
um, <inaudible> at the time, about, uh, yeah.
513
00:19:07.075 --> 00:19:09.565
He's like, Hey, have you ever like thought about IndyCar?
514
00:19:09.565 --> 00:19:11.965
Because, you know, with all the changes going on
515
00:19:11.965 --> 00:19:13.325
with nascar, you know, we might be
516
00:19:13.325 --> 00:19:14.445
closing out Xfinity program.
517
00:19:15.385 --> 00:19:16.925
We want have you
518
00:19:16.945 --> 00:19:19.485
and the family, whatever you do in America, um,
519
00:19:20.405 --> 00:19:22.925
I really think IndyCar would be a nice fit for you.
520
00:19:22.925 --> 00:19:23.965
It's a very similar schedule
521
00:19:23.985 --> 00:19:27.285
to supercars about 20, 21 races a year or whatever.
522
00:19:27.745 --> 00:19:31.045
Um, you know, you can race three street course
523
00:19:31.045 --> 00:19:32.685
and you also get to race the Indy 500.
524
00:19:33.185 --> 00:19:35.525
And like, that was a big ticket for me, was the chance
525
00:19:35.545 --> 00:19:36.565
to race the 500.
526
00:19:36.945 --> 00:19:38.365
Um, and,
527
00:19:38.365 --> 00:19:40.285
and I think that's why I, at
528
00:19:40.485 --> 00:19:42.165
that really changed the whole thing.
529
00:19:42.285 --> 00:19:45.965
I never actually thought they thought I was gonna be like a,
530
00:19:46.445 --> 00:19:49.725
a, a indie car driver, you know, just I drive a touring car,
531
00:19:49.725 --> 00:19:51.605
like why would you want me in an open wheeler?
532
00:19:52.025 --> 00:19:53.605
But it was the opportunity they gave me.
533
00:19:53.605 --> 00:19:56.365
They put me, you know, through, you know, simulator,
534
00:19:56.945 --> 00:19:58.725
you know, I did that testing, I did the test
535
00:19:58.725 --> 00:20:00.445
and a code it in 2020,
536
00:20:00.745 --> 00:20:02.805
and then like the plan in 2020 was actually
537
00:20:02.825 --> 00:20:04.765
to run five or six races.
538
00:20:04.905 --> 00:20:07.645
Um, but anyway, that, that's my IndyCar story.
539
00:20:08.075 --> 00:20:11.325
Like, but uh, yeah, I don't know.
540
00:20:11.325 --> 00:20:12.605
I've, I've, I would like
541
00:20:12.605 --> 00:20:16.405
to try like maybe a race in NASCAR or something because
542
00:20:16.405 --> 00:20:18.925
Like, I mean, you, you see Shane go over a guy
543
00:20:18.925 --> 00:20:20.365
that you've competed against, you know exactly
544
00:20:20.365 --> 00:20:22.325
what he's capable of and you know that you're at
545
00:20:22.325 --> 00:20:24.245
that same level and he's gone over there and,
546
00:20:24.385 --> 00:20:25.485
and done very well.
547
00:20:25.745 --> 00:20:27.045
Yes. So like, especially
548
00:20:27.055 --> 00:20:29.965
after SVG made the transition, did it kind
549
00:20:29.965 --> 00:20:32.085
of pique your interest more and be like, ah, yeah.
550
00:20:32.085 --> 00:20:34.205
Hey Raj, if there's ever an opportunity, I'd also love
551
00:20:34.205 --> 00:20:36.965
to give like Daytona a try or like do this. No,
552
00:20:36.965 --> 00:20:37.965
No, no.
553
00:20:37.965 --> 00:20:38.605
Like, we've, like talked about it,
554
00:20:38.605 --> 00:20:40.565
but at the same time, you know, like I, I just want
555
00:20:40.565 --> 00:20:41.885
to get my finger on the pulse here.
556
00:20:41.945 --> 00:20:43.725
You know, I, I, I, there's things that,
557
00:20:44.305 --> 00:20:46.525
and my full focus right now is, is IndyCar.
558
00:20:46.645 --> 00:20:48.845
I would love to, like, maybe in the off season,
559
00:20:49.075 --> 00:20:52.765
like could I try and schedule like to do a NASCAR race like
560
00:20:52.835 --> 00:20:54.405
outside of that season that I wouldn't,
561
00:20:54.405 --> 00:20:55.405
that wouldn't impact it.
562
00:20:55.425 --> 00:20:57.885
But you know, like there's
563
00:20:58.995 --> 00:21:00.655
so many complications before that too.
564
00:21:00.715 --> 00:21:02.015
You know, they run Fords
565
00:21:02.015 --> 00:21:03.415
where I'm in a Chevy, I'm a Chevy guy.
566
00:21:03.415 --> 00:21:06.135
There's a whole range of things that come into that.
567
00:21:06.155 --> 00:21:09.775
And honestly, I just don't think, uh, as much
568
00:21:09.775 --> 00:21:10.855
as it would be cool and stuff,
569
00:21:10.885 --> 00:21:12.615
it's just not on my radar right now.
570
00:21:12.695 --> 00:21:15.335
I, I I, I just, there's too many things, especially
571
00:21:15.335 --> 00:21:17.415
after the year we've had, and I just want to, you know,
572
00:21:17.725 --> 00:21:19.215
lock in a little bit, I guess you could say.
573
00:21:19.275 --> 00:21:20.415
So, um,
574
00:21:21.665 --> 00:21:25.645
but for sure interested would like to, I definitely think,
575
00:21:25.705 --> 00:21:28.125
you know, I could, I could give Shane a run for his money
576
00:21:28.385 --> 00:21:32.285
and, um, but at the same time, you know, I'm very happy
577
00:21:32.305 --> 00:21:34.245
for Shane, like what he's doing.
578
00:21:34.565 --> 00:21:37.925
I, I, I've always said he was one, the one guy over there
579
00:21:37.925 --> 00:21:39.165
that could come over and do this.
580
00:21:39.195 --> 00:21:41.645
He's so detailed driven and is just very, very fast.
581
00:21:42.505 --> 00:21:45.085
Um, and then I think he'll eventually get the
582
00:21:45.135 --> 00:21:46.445
ovals, which will be really good for him.
583
00:21:46.445 --> 00:21:48.405
And now he's got some security there with this contract.
584
00:21:48.465 --> 00:21:51.405
But yeah, I mean, I, it's never say never,
585
00:21:51.665 --> 00:21:53.805
but just whenever the timing up
586
00:21:53.945 --> 00:21:55.365
Is there, are there, are there other parts
587
00:21:55.365 --> 00:21:56.445
of the Penske organization
588
00:21:56.445 --> 00:21:57.485
that you think about jumping over?
589
00:21:57.515 --> 00:21:58.765
Like to call RP and be like,
590
00:21:58.765 --> 00:22:01.485
I think I could streamline this truck rental process.
591
00:22:02.485 --> 00:22:04.085
I think there's some things you guys are missing,
592
00:22:04.185 --> 00:22:05.765
or is it, you know, well,
593
00:22:06.035 --> 00:22:07.965
it's a big organization, you know. Yeah,
594
00:22:07.965 --> 00:22:08.965
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
595
00:22:08.965 --> 00:22:11.485
No, I mean, I, look, I, I, I, uh,
596
00:22:12.205 --> 00:22:13.765
I just, I enjoy driving.
597
00:22:13.875 --> 00:22:14.885
I've always trusted the process.
598
00:22:15.065 --> 00:22:17.845
Tim, I've always , they have never ever
599
00:22:18.425 --> 00:22:19.925
let me down, like ever.
600
00:22:20.115 --> 00:22:22.125
Like I, the minute I've signed here,
601
00:22:22.515 --> 00:22:24.965
they said they'd built me a championship car for Supercars.
602
00:22:24.965 --> 00:22:27.485
They did that. They went, they helped me win a Bathurst,
603
00:22:27.485 --> 00:22:29.205
which was my two goal in, in Australia.
604
00:22:29.265 --> 00:22:31.325
And then they gave me my chance to come here.
605
00:22:32.065 --> 00:22:34.045
And, you know, I've tested the Porsche.
606
00:22:34.045 --> 00:22:35.045
I, I enjoyed driving that.
607
00:22:35.225 --> 00:22:38.645
Um, you know, I enjoyed, I drive anything, you know,
608
00:22:38.865 --> 00:22:40.685
and, uh, I would love to drive anything.
609
00:22:40.865 --> 00:22:42.605
So, yeah, see what happens.
610
00:22:42.785 --> 00:22:44.565
So, so you, you, you drive anything,
611
00:22:44.585 --> 00:22:45.845
and we kind of mentioned it earlier,
612
00:22:45.905 --> 00:22:48.925
but where did this legend car racing, we see USVG,
613
00:22:49.055 --> 00:22:51.125
Bubba Wallace, you guys are just like on your,
614
00:22:51.235 --> 00:22:52.565
your off Tuesday nights
615
00:22:52.565 --> 00:22:53.965
or whatever, ripping around Charlotte
616
00:22:54.065 --> 00:22:55.205
in a, in a Legends car.
617
00:22:55.955 --> 00:22:57.325
Yeah. That, that, uh, that,
618
00:22:57.475 --> 00:23:00.405
that was negotiated over a beer, actually.
619
00:23:00.505 --> 00:23:02.285
Um, we were, um, playing some games.
620
00:23:02.285 --> 00:23:03.445
Most of the best deals are, yeah.
621
00:23:03.705 --> 00:23:05.805
And yeah, it was like a, it was like basically a bet.
622
00:23:05.825 --> 00:23:08.485
And like Bubba was like, you guys, you know, you lose this,
623
00:23:08.485 --> 00:23:10.925
you come, come race with me in the Summer shootout.
624
00:23:10.965 --> 00:23:12.845
I was like, all right. Like, sweet, we'll come over.
625
00:23:13.425 --> 00:23:17.125
Um, well, we did lose that and then had to, I, I, me
626
00:23:17.125 --> 00:23:18.685
and Shane put together a very similar deal.
627
00:23:19.065 --> 00:23:20.565
We had cars painted up the same,
628
00:23:20.885 --> 00:23:22.045
I I don't know why I did it.
629
00:23:22.065 --> 00:23:23.245
It was like 12 weeks
630
00:23:23.265 --> 00:23:25.165
of just getting bashed around by 12 year olds .
631
00:23:25.785 --> 00:23:29.045
So, but it was, um, it was fun.
632
00:23:29.505 --> 00:23:30.685
Uh, I learned a little bit
633
00:23:30.905 --> 00:23:33.365
and, um, yeah, I don't know whether I'll do it again or not,
634
00:23:33.385 --> 00:23:35.925
but it, it, those cars are pretty fun.
635
00:23:36.065 --> 00:23:39.965
But yeah, the, the racing man, like everyone sees, oh,
636
00:23:39.965 --> 00:23:41.365
it's just short track racing, whatever,
637
00:23:41.425 --> 00:23:43.525
but it's like, it's, it's, it's deplorable.
638
00:23:43.675 --> 00:23:46.885
Like, it's like you can't, like, you like, I got to, I got
639
00:23:46.885 --> 00:23:48.405
to second one day, I'm like, this is great.
640
00:23:48.405 --> 00:23:50.685
And then all a sudden, boom, I'm just like taken out.
641
00:23:50.715 --> 00:23:53.525
Like, it just, yeah, you got, it was crazy. You,
642
00:23:53.665 --> 00:23:55.525
You got me on this show bitching about
643
00:23:55.525 --> 00:23:57.405
how IndyCar like allows drivers
644
00:23:57.545 --> 00:23:59.005
to just open their hands on exit
645
00:23:59.005 --> 00:24:00.845
and run guys off meanwhile, and those things.
646
00:24:00.875 --> 00:24:03.925
It's literally just like no breaks fire guys off.
647
00:24:03.945 --> 00:24:06.325
And that's just me. That's just short track racing. Yeah,
648
00:24:06.425 --> 00:24:07.425
No, it was crazy.
649
00:24:07.425 --> 00:24:10.045
And, and like the, the guy was like, uh, you know, I,
650
00:24:10.205 --> 00:24:12.565
I took, I actually hit someone off one of the da one
651
00:24:12.565 --> 00:24:15.885
of the races, but he mistaked he thought I was,
652
00:24:16.345 --> 00:24:17.765
he thought Shane hit him off
653
00:24:17.765 --> 00:24:18.965
because our cars are exactly the same.
654
00:24:19.225 --> 00:24:21.165
So he was like pointing his finger at Shane,
655
00:24:21.165 --> 00:24:22.405
and Shane's like, no, no, no.
656
00:24:22.405 --> 00:24:25.885
It's like the next guy . So it's pretty funny some stuff
657
00:24:26.305 --> 00:24:27.925
That's actually so good. I
658
00:24:27.925 --> 00:24:28.885
Know it, it's great. So,
659
00:24:29.265 --> 00:24:30.845
All right, so you're into driving everything.
660
00:24:31.765 --> 00:24:34.725
I have this hypothetical I'm gonna throw out at you, okay?
661
00:24:35.005 --> 00:24:38.125
Hmm. Because there was an article that went up on f one.com.
662
00:24:39.035 --> 00:24:42.045
I've been sent this.
You've been sent this and Yes.
663
00:24:42.305 --> 00:24:46.885
Uh, it was about, you know, American based prospects
664
00:24:46.905 --> 00:24:49.045
for the Cadillac Formula One team. It
665
00:24:49.045 --> 00:24:50.205
Was written by some wanker.
666
00:24:50.345 --> 00:24:52.005
Uh, it was written by some, it
667
00:24:52.005 --> 00:24:53.525
Was written by some unknown guy.
668
00:24:53.525 --> 00:24:56.005
Clearly doesn't know much about much, but he did.
669
00:24:56.575 --> 00:24:57.925
Small guy
Sky .
670
00:24:59.595 --> 00:25:03.205
Yeah.
Big TikTok guy. Big TikTok guy. Yeah.
671
00:25:03.265 --> 00:25:06.045
Anyway, you are technically a US citizen.
672
00:25:06.825 --> 00:25:08.845
Mm.
You have made one
673
00:25:08.845 --> 00:25:11.525
of the most impressive transitions of one genre
674
00:25:11.585 --> 00:25:12.685
of racing to another.
675
00:25:12.905 --> 00:25:16.565
In modern times you are GM affiliated .
676
00:25:17.145 --> 00:25:19.965
If,
If at some, Hey,
677
00:25:19.965 --> 00:25:21.885
I'm gonna take my t my my townson bell,
678
00:25:21.885 --> 00:25:23.325
like Hail Mary shot down.
679
00:25:23.785 --> 00:25:26.845
If at some point someone from G Mark Royce calls up,
680
00:25:26.845 --> 00:25:29.405
he is like, Hey, Scott, why don't we just check in
681
00:25:29.485 --> 00:25:30.685
a TPC test?
682
00:25:31.275 --> 00:25:33.845
Just, just to see what you think. Would you be open to that?
683
00:25:34.355 --> 00:25:37.325
Yeah, but I would love to drive four one car.
684
00:25:37.325 --> 00:25:39.325
Like it would be cool to like drive one who the
685
00:25:39.525 --> 00:25:41.325
Wouldn't be open to that. I would be open to that.
686
00:25:41.385 --> 00:25:42.405
That's search
687
00:25:42.955 --> 00:25:45.445
With, with, with the, with the insinuation
688
00:25:45.475 --> 00:25:47.085
that if it goes well, they,
689
00:25:47.085 --> 00:25:49.885
they might try to bring you in that one. Hey, hey Scott,
690
00:25:49.905 --> 00:25:51.805
Did you, did you wanna race in a bigger series
691
00:25:51.805 --> 00:25:52.885
than probably pay more?
692
00:25:53.355 --> 00:25:54.525
That, would that interest
693
00:25:54.525 --> 00:25:55.525
you
?
694
00:25:55.865 --> 00:25:58.165
Hey, do you want this winning lottery ticket or Oh,
695
00:25:58.165 --> 00:25:59.165
Yeah.
696
00:25:59.165 --> 00:26:01.245
No, never. No. Look, I, I, look, I would, if,
697
00:26:01.305 --> 00:26:02.845
if I ever got offered, I've always said,
698
00:26:02.845 --> 00:26:05.445
if I ever got offered a test, uh, you know, I would,
699
00:26:05.685 --> 00:26:07.525
I would love to like do that.
700
00:26:07.555 --> 00:26:08.845
It'd be awesome. Um,
701
00:26:09.785 --> 00:26:12.285
but yeah, like I don't,
702
00:26:12.445 --> 00:26:15.965
I think the whole F1 racing thing for me, like that's,
703
00:26:16.515 --> 00:26:17.725
that that's sort of gone.
704
00:26:18.005 --> 00:26:22.125
I mean, I, I I, I really enjoy my life here.
705
00:26:22.325 --> 00:26:24.805
I enjoy, I really am passionate about IndyCar
706
00:26:24.805 --> 00:26:25.885
and growing this sport.
707
00:26:26.505 --> 00:26:28.965
Um, and yeah, I like,
708
00:26:29.025 --> 00:26:32.165
but for sure like the, if it was ever like, oh, mark said,
709
00:26:32.165 --> 00:26:34.045
oh, hey, do you wanna come do the Abu Dhabi
710
00:26:34.415 --> 00:26:35.725
Young Driver's test ?
711
00:26:36.465 --> 00:26:40.325
Um, I would, uh, I I would, yeah, I would love to do it.
712
00:26:40.685 --> 00:26:42.085
Hmm. All right. Just, just to see
713
00:26:42.085 --> 00:26:43.445
what it's like, you know, see what Yeah, yeah.
714
00:26:43.445 --> 00:26:44.445
The way, like way everyone talks.
715
00:26:44.445 --> 00:26:46.125
I'm the same about down force and, and,
716
00:26:46.465 --> 00:26:49.005
and all of the energy and the power and the breaks
717
00:26:49.145 --> 00:26:51.165
and just be, just be, I know,
718
00:26:51.165 --> 00:26:52.165
Yeah.
719
00:26:52.165 --> 00:26:52.445
Cool to experience it. Yeah.
720
00:26:52.495 --> 00:26:53.725
Right. Well, yeah. Um,
721
00:26:54.805 --> 00:26:55.925
actually everyone would be like that.
722
00:26:56.565 --> 00:26:57.605
Everyone would probably say the same thing.
723
00:26:58.145 --> 00:27:01.085
Um, actually on that list also, I just thought about this,
724
00:27:01.305 --> 00:27:03.925
you know, one of the other guys on this list, kind of,
725
00:27:03.925 --> 00:27:05.285
well, young Connor Zi.
726
00:27:05.945 --> 00:27:07.765
Mm. You've had a chance. Big shot the weekend.
727
00:27:08.385 --> 00:27:09.925
Big shot on the weekend. I mean, one,
728
00:27:10.225 --> 00:27:11.245
that's all it really matters.
729
00:27:11.595 --> 00:27:14.125
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and as I I told him, I was like, Hey,
730
00:27:14.385 --> 00:27:15.765
new Garden once broke his collarbone,
731
00:27:15.765 --> 00:27:16.765
they chucked in some screws
732
00:27:16.765 --> 00:27:17.765
and some plates, and he won the next
733
00:27:17.765 --> 00:27:18.925
race. You're gonna be fine. Yeah,
734
00:27:19.275 --> 00:27:20.275
Yeah.
735
00:27:20.275 --> 00:27:21.645
But you've, you've got to race alongside him.
736
00:27:21.645 --> 00:27:23.325
We've obviously kind of been k keeping
737
00:27:23.325 --> 00:27:24.365
track of what he's been doing.
738
00:27:24.365 --> 00:27:26.245
Young guy came from a road racing background,
739
00:27:26.265 --> 00:27:28.925
is now winning on Road and ovals in Xfinity.
740
00:27:28.925 --> 00:27:31.085
He's, he's doing some cup races on the side as well.
741
00:27:31.585 --> 00:27:34.565
Um, like what, what do you think about him as a, as a talent
742
00:27:34.705 --> 00:27:36.445
and do you think if given the chance to kind
743
00:27:36.445 --> 00:27:39.085
of experience a little bit of open wheel, he might be able
744
00:27:39.085 --> 00:27:40.525
to do something similar to what you did?
745
00:27:40.555 --> 00:27:42.045
Yeah, well, like we've been talking
746
00:27:42.045 --> 00:27:43.565
to him about him in the truck, actually.
747
00:27:43.565 --> 00:27:47.475
Me, Joseph, and Will, like, he's someone that we are kind
748
00:27:47.475 --> 00:27:51.115
of sad that he's gone the, the NASCAR route.
749
00:27:51.335 --> 00:27:52.875
Um, you know, it's exciting for him
750
00:27:52.875 --> 00:27:53.995
and he is doing such an awesome job,
751
00:27:54.015 --> 00:27:57.195
but he's such a good race driver and a good kid as well.
752
00:27:57.855 --> 00:28:00.035
Um, I I, I would love to see him in an IndyCar.
753
00:28:00.315 --> 00:28:02.275
I think, you know, it'd be, it'd be awesome to see.
754
00:28:02.815 --> 00:28:05.915
Um, and then obviously that he's fully capable
755
00:28:06.055 --> 00:28:07.235
to go and do everything.
756
00:28:07.235 --> 00:28:08.355
He's driven, he's fast. Yeah.
757
00:28:08.355 --> 00:28:11.035
And I mean, I race with him in the Corvette this year that,
758
00:28:11.135 --> 00:28:13.155
uh, yeah, like I said, he's, it's so funny.
759
00:28:13.155 --> 00:28:15.915
Like, he, he's mature, but he's 18 .
760
00:28:16.375 --> 00:28:18.955
So it was like this, like, there, there was things
761
00:28:18.955 --> 00:28:20.835
that he said that it was like I said to Sha like,
762
00:28:20.835 --> 00:28:22.875
this guy's, like, I just, he just reminds me
763
00:28:23.055 --> 00:28:24.995
of like us when we were like his age
764
00:28:25.055 --> 00:28:27.155
and he just drive, gets in the car
765
00:28:27.155 --> 00:28:29.635
and wants to drive things as fast as he can and, and, and,
766
00:28:29.635 --> 00:28:30.715
but it, and thinks about it.
767
00:28:30.815 --> 00:28:34.915
But he's solid, solid kid, um, very fast.
768
00:28:35.375 --> 00:28:38.675
Um, yeah, I think that he, I think he's a great addition
769
00:28:38.675 --> 00:28:40.795
to your, uh, your people there.
770
00:28:41.055 --> 00:28:45.865
Um, I think that would be very, very cool. But I don't know.
771
00:28:45.945 --> 00:28:47.185
I think he's on the, he's got his,
772
00:28:47.215 --> 00:28:49.705
he's got his lottery ticket to, to, to nascar.
773
00:28:49.705 --> 00:28:51.625
He is gonna be a star. I think he's gonna
774
00:28:51.625 --> 00:28:52.945
get a big contract. .
775
00:28:54.265 --> 00:28:55.465
I think you're absolutely right. Being Red
776
00:28:55.465 --> 00:28:56.505
Bull backs never hurts either.
777
00:28:56.885 --> 00:28:59.825
Uh, no. All right, Scott, uh, two races left, two
778
00:28:59.825 --> 00:29:01.145
that you like, two that you're good at.
779
00:29:02.205 --> 00:29:03.295
What do you think about the last two?
780
00:29:03.295 --> 00:29:04.495
What's, what's your predictions for these
781
00:29:04.495 --> 00:29:05.535
last two rounds? Well, I
782
00:29:05.535 --> 00:29:07.055
Think we can, I honestly think we can,
783
00:29:07.235 --> 00:29:09.415
we could win out if we, if we really put our heads together.
784
00:29:09.675 --> 00:29:11.975
Um, you know, I think I, I know I can win it.
785
00:29:12.215 --> 00:29:13.175
Milwaukee, I love that place.
786
00:29:13.175 --> 00:29:14.255
And we're really strong in Iowa.
787
00:29:14.595 --> 00:29:16.335
Um, so there's, I know it's a little bit different,
788
00:29:16.355 --> 00:29:18.055
but still it's an oval, short oval.
789
00:29:18.155 --> 00:29:20.775
Um, and then, and then Nashville, you know, Andre,
790
00:29:20.775 --> 00:29:21.895
we're really strong there last year,
791
00:29:21.895 --> 00:29:24.615
but I think we can be better after a year thinking about it.
792
00:29:24.875 --> 00:29:27.535
Um, but yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm excited.
793
00:29:27.685 --> 00:29:30.135
Good, good way to finish, get some momentum, work
794
00:29:30.135 --> 00:29:31.575
with my stand a little bit more
795
00:29:31.575 --> 00:29:33.935
with Ben Breman now being my, my engineer,
796
00:29:33.935 --> 00:29:35.175
plus my, um, strategist.
797
00:29:35.175 --> 00:29:36.415
So it's that, that's been a,
798
00:29:36.535 --> 00:29:38.575
a whole learning process as well.
799
00:29:38.835 --> 00:29:41.725
Um, I think we can finish off with some really good momentum
800
00:29:41.865 --> 00:29:44.325
and bring ourselves into 2026 in a good
801
00:29:44.325 --> 00:29:45.325
Way.
802
00:29:45.325 --> 00:29:46.045
And more importantly, where are we getting
803
00:29:46.175 --> 00:29:47.245
beers after Nashville?
804
00:29:47.435 --> 00:29:49.205
Well, we're talking about that on Sunday.
805
00:29:49.545 --> 00:29:51.605
Um, I definitely need to schedule, um,
806
00:29:51.605 --> 00:29:53.485
something I would lump, you know, it'd be cool.
807
00:29:53.645 --> 00:29:55.445
I really think we should go to a karaoke bar
808
00:29:55.585 --> 00:29:57.885
or like, like we should rent out a karaoke bar
809
00:29:58.805 --> 00:30:00.285
Speaking my language right now. Yeah.
810
00:30:00.315 --> 00:30:01.925
Careful what you wish for. Uh,
811
00:30:02.155 --> 00:30:04.125
Like an indie car after party at a
812
00:30:04.435 --> 00:30:05.765
karaoke bar would be like,
813
00:30:06.805 --> 00:30:08.565
I know, three karaoke bars in
814
00:30:08.565 --> 00:30:09.565
Nashville.
.
815
00:30:09.565 --> 00:30:12.005
Yeah. You, I feel like if you get a big enough one,
816
00:30:12.265 --> 00:30:14.805
you would learn a lot about many people
817
00:30:15.335 --> 00:30:16.445
about their song choice.
818
00:30:17.125 --> 00:30:19.005
I always said that one of the, one
819
00:30:19.005 --> 00:30:21.525
of the best things you could do for a championship is
820
00:30:21.525 --> 00:30:25.525
to get the entire field together, like two or three weeks
821
00:30:25.705 --> 00:30:27.245
before the season starts
822
00:30:27.985 --> 00:30:29.165
and just lock them in a room
823
00:30:29.165 --> 00:30:30.445
for five hours with an open bar.
824
00:30:30.475 --> 00:30:32.365
Yeah. I feel like everybody would leave there
825
00:30:32.365 --> 00:30:33.445
with a whole new level of
826
00:30:33.445 --> 00:30:34.805
understanding and respect for each other.
827
00:30:34.875 --> 00:30:36.965
Sure. Like, it always would happen at the end of a season.
828
00:30:36.965 --> 00:30:39.765
You're like, this guy that I hated all year long, we went
829
00:30:39.765 --> 00:30:41.525
and had beers at the, like the after party,
830
00:30:41.525 --> 00:30:42.645
after the banquet or whatever.
831
00:30:42.645 --> 00:30:43.925
It's like, hey, he is actually a pretty
832
00:30:43.925 --> 00:30:45.005
good guy. This guy, I like
833
00:30:45.005 --> 00:30:46.005
This guy.
834
00:30:46.005 --> 00:30:46.645
Yeah. It's not, it's not about going
835
00:30:46.645 --> 00:30:48.005
and get hammered, it's just about like,
836
00:30:48.005 --> 00:30:49.245
just learning about people.
837
00:30:49.275 --> 00:30:50.605
Yeah. . Like, it's like,
838
00:30:51.145 --> 00:30:52.245
and you would learn a lot,
839
00:30:52.245 --> 00:30:54.645
like imagine like Robert Schwarzman like up there
840
00:30:54.845 --> 00:30:56.165
and like grabbing whatever.
841
00:30:56.195 --> 00:30:58.365
Like he, he probably rap, right? Just rapping.
842
00:30:58.365 --> 00:31:00.125
Yeah. Like,
You'd learn a lot about like what,
843
00:31:00.125 --> 00:31:01.685
like someone's song choice.
844
00:31:01.805 --> 00:31:03.805
I don't know what like below would shoot.
845
00:31:04.725 --> 00:31:06.525
I don't know if you could even get him to do it. That
846
00:31:06.525 --> 00:31:07.365
Song. Tequila.
847
00:31:07.915 --> 00:31:09.445
Yeah. Yeah. What
What's your,
848
00:31:09.445 --> 00:31:10.845
what's your go-to karaoke jam?
849
00:31:11.065 --> 00:31:12.065
I'm like,
850
00:31:12.625 --> 00:31:14.805
You know that song Dancing in the Moonlight? Yeah.
851
00:31:14.865 --> 00:31:16.765
Oh hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
852
00:31:16.875 --> 00:31:19.165
That, that gets the bath going, dude, I'm telling you.
853
00:31:19.265 --> 00:31:21.245
All right. 'cause like everyone hears it. They're like, oh.
854
00:31:21.505 --> 00:31:23.685
And it starts slow and then when it start
855
00:31:23.705 --> 00:31:25.885
and it just starts hammering it, it's, it's really good.
856
00:31:26.225 --> 00:31:28.285
But I need a few before I do that. Or it's Mr.
857
00:31:28.285 --> 00:31:30.245
Brightside, but that's just like, it's like,
858
00:31:30.265 --> 00:31:31.245
That's a classic. Like
859
00:31:31.875 --> 00:31:33.285
It's a classic. Get everyone going.
860
00:31:33.315 --> 00:31:34.565
Yeah. Gets everybody, yeah.
861
00:31:34.565 --> 00:31:36.085
Everybody into the mood. I can see both.
862
00:31:36.875 --> 00:31:39.565
There's actually a good one too. Love story. Taylor Swift.
863
00:31:39.675 --> 00:31:42.045
That, that's actually a very good one.
864
00:31:42.065 --> 00:31:45.765
If you want to get a whole bar going, that's a heater. All
865
00:31:45.765 --> 00:31:46.045
Right. It's
866
00:31:46.715 --> 00:31:47.805
Obviously has happen.
867
00:31:48.595 --> 00:31:51.125
Yeah. We're gonna make this a thing.
868
00:31:51.155 --> 00:31:52.645
This is definitely going down at some point.
869
00:31:52.715 --> 00:31:53.765
Okay. We'll we'll
870
00:31:53.765 --> 00:31:55.925
Make it like the official off track after party.
871
00:31:56.515 --> 00:31:59.325
Yeah. I I, we could get it sponsored.
872
00:31:59.635 --> 00:32:01.925
It's a write off. It's a, it's a business expense, Tim.
873
00:32:02.305 --> 00:32:04.485
Yes, yes. Let's do it. We,
874
00:32:04.665 --> 00:32:07.645
And I, and I say this with, with almost no joke.
875
00:32:08.685 --> 00:32:09.965
I don't need to be paid this year.
876
00:32:10.105 --> 00:32:12.805
If it goes towards that, I'm okay with it.
877
00:32:12.955 --> 00:32:14.125
I'll tell you, I need to be paid.
878
00:32:14.365 --> 00:32:15.485
I haven't had a great year, so .
879
00:32:17.675 --> 00:32:19.365
Alright, well look, we got two left.
880
00:32:19.365 --> 00:32:20.445
We're excited about 'em. Um,
881
00:32:20.705 --> 00:32:22.885
you actually are also part of the problem.
882
00:32:23.345 --> 00:32:24.445
Uh, as you may remember,
883
00:32:24.505 --> 00:32:26.605
our broadcast was delayed slightly due to,
884
00:32:26.905 --> 00:32:29.085
uh, golf going along. And we know you're a big
885
00:32:29.185 --> 00:32:30.185
Cat guy.
886
00:32:30.185 --> 00:32:32.685
I saw I was, I was this close to spraying you this morning
887
00:32:33.225 --> 00:32:36.645
on, on, uh, I was, I I was actually sitting on the toilet.
888
00:32:36.985 --> 00:32:38.285
No, joking. . That's
889
00:32:38.285 --> 00:32:39.285
Where my best sweets come from.
890
00:32:39.675 --> 00:32:42.885
Yeah. And I was like, nah, I'll let this one slide . I
891
00:32:43.985 --> 00:32:45.645
I'm just gonna go after Townsend instead. .
892
00:32:46.805 --> 00:32:48.845
Yeah, you should have. 'cause I had had double down.
893
00:32:48.965 --> 00:32:51.845
I got so many responses being like, yes, you're right.
894
00:32:51.915 --> 00:32:53.525
That sport sucks. Let's go racing.
895
00:32:54.385 --> 00:32:56.485
And as a big golf guy, you were part of the problem.
896
00:32:56.665 --> 00:32:58.845
So hopefully there's no golf holding us up this week.
897
00:33:00.025 --> 00:33:01.685
That's a little bit for sure. Yeah.
898
00:33:01.865 --> 00:33:03.205
All right. We got it
Started,
899
00:33:03.205 --> 00:33:05.205
they started the broadcast when we were on the roll rounds.
900
00:33:05.205 --> 00:33:06.485
Right? Like, like all we were,
901
00:33:07.115 --> 00:33:09.645
Well got, we got IndyCar to delay the race
902
00:33:09.705 --> 00:33:11.205
by a couple minutes, which was huge.
903
00:33:11.205 --> 00:33:13.045
Yeah. Like a lot of series would not do that.
904
00:33:13.385 --> 00:33:16.245
But, um, IndyCar played ball in a big way, which is great.
905
00:33:16.305 --> 00:33:18.805
And then we started, we got the race start on FS one
906
00:33:18.805 --> 00:33:20.685
and then we switched over to Fox at some point,
907
00:33:20.685 --> 00:33:21.925
like 10 lap, something like
908
00:33:21.925 --> 00:33:22.925
That.
909
00:33:22.925 --> 00:33:23.445
Yeah. It's still decent be it
910
00:33:23.445 --> 00:33:24.445
Will be good.
911
00:33:24.445 --> 00:33:25.965
It was good, man. I mean, considering that issue
912
00:33:25.965 --> 00:33:27.965
and then going head to head with Cup at the Glen, like
913
00:33:28.165 --> 00:33:29.845
I know, I actually thought that was very solid.
914
00:33:30.035 --> 00:33:33.765
Yeah. Yeah. They, it's, um, alright. No dramas Fox.
915
00:33:33.795 --> 00:33:36.845
Alright buddy. Uh, well enjoy the rest of your nap time
916
00:33:37.145 --> 00:33:38.365
and thanks for coming on
917
00:33:38.805 --> 00:33:39.965
and we'll see you in a couple weeks,
918
00:33:40.115 --> 00:33:41.115
Boys.
919
00:33:41.115 --> 00:33:41.405
Thank you. Appreciate it.
920
00:33:42.795 --> 00:33:44.685
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