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This is, is off Track me.
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Here we are. This, uh, .
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I'm <inaudible> excited about this one. .
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I can't <inaudible>. Wait.
Cool. This is great.
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Six and a half hours to edit. This should be fine. .
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It's all right. I didn't need to sleep tonight.
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Oh, come on Tim. Nobody cares. Uh, hello. Hello. Welcome.
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Tuesday's trivia night at Barney's James.
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So I'm doing you a favor, by keeping you here longer.
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Yeah. That's the less time you can spend at Barney's.
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Laura, you probably don't know Barney's in la
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nor should you, but Tim Barney's
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Is like a store.
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Is the like a big store, right?
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No, that's Barney's in New York.
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That's a different Barney's. A more expensive
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Barney's
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Oh, okay. This
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Is a bar.
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This one's catching up. Uh, . Okay.
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Well, you've you've spent a lot of money there, guys.
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We're totally we're way off topic. Hello and welcome.
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I'll track with Hinch or Rossi today as we welcome a very,
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very special guest, a close personal friend of mine.
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She's the lead presenter for F1 TV's Formula One coverage
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among many other things that we'll get into.
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Laura Winter. Thank you for joining us.
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James Hinchcliffe. Thank you so much for having me.
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What a wonderful introduction.
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Uh, that's actually, I think the best one I've done.
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I don't even normally go into much with our guests.
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I just sort of say, and here's John. Uh,
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It's a low bar. It's a low bar.
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It is a low bar. It was a low bar. Um,
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I'm honored you took the time.
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And also it's hilarious because we're both in the same
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hotel, but just different rooms, different floors.
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And I was like, oh, cool. We can do it
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together and you wouldn't let me.
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Yeah. She was very upset when,
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because I asked her to do the show
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and she's like, oh my God, I'd love to do it.
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It'd be great. And then we had to delay it
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because of some technical issues on the
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internet. Not even our fault because
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Amazon just shut down the world. Yeah. Which
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Apparently like the internet went down, didn't it? Yeah.
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It wasn't great. And uh,
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and then yeah, I was like, yeah, so you could just, uh,
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she goes, oh, so where are we gonna do it?
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We you do it and do you wanna do it in your room?
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We do it in the lobby. Where do you wanna do it?
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I'm like, oh no, we've gotta,
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we've gotta be, we gotta be separate for this.
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And she was quite upset, Tim. Yeah.
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It's, uh, I can't say I relate,
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I wouldn't wanna spend more time with James
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because I feel like you guys like just spent a whole weekend
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together in Texas and then's very,
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you usually get a little downtime
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to get away from each other before the next race,
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but now not at all. Right.
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We sat next to each other on the plane here.
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We're, we are gonna finish this podcast
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and go straight to dinner together.
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Correct.
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I can't get enough. James Hinchcliffe.
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Yeah, we're, this is, I
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Get it.
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He's the delightful. She's my work wife.
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She's my work wife basically.
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Um, but yes, so we are in Mexico.
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We are just off the back of, uh, the USGP, which was a heck
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of a weekend, heck of a race.
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But I wanted to, I wanted
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to kinda pick your brain a little bit
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and get into the, uh, the history, if you will, of lo winter
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because, and,
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and I, I, I've, I'm sorry for the people listening
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where this has been a bit repetitive,
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but we've had a couple people on, um, lately talking about
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with this swell and interest in motor sports,
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there's been a massive interest in people wanting
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to get into it f in any capacity
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or all capacities I should say.
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And I've heard you kind of go through this a little bit
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and I think you've got a really interesting take on it.
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And, and I'd love to, to kind of get into it.
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So before we get into motorsports
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and F1 specifically, where did your
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start in broadcasting come from?
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Was this always the goal?
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Did we go to school for it
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or did you like me retire from a sport
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and they just gave you a microphone?
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I wasn't good enough to kind of be
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a retired athlete pundit type thing. No, but
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You were an athlete.
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I was an athlete, yes. I was.
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I swam competitively for 12 years
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and then I rode competitively at university
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and I kind of married all of that in with um, a love
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of English and theater studies, darling Drama.
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Oh, . Which there will be no surprise to you, I'm sure .
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It explains a lot. It explains a lot. Yeah.
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And so I guess the career I've carved out is kind of a,
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a combination of all of those, like my love of sport
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and not just doing sport and competing,
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but also watching so much sport on telly.
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I just lived for like the Olympics, Wimbledon, six Nations,
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rugby, world Cup football, world Cups.
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I was just watching sport all the time.
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And so you, I kind of, when I left university thought, well,
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how can I make talking about sport my career?
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That's what I wanna be doing. And I just didn't, I didn't.
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And as so many people now say, there's no set path
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so you don't quite know what to do.
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Right. And I didn't really want
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to fork out like a load more money to go
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and get a master's degree in broadcasting.
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Perhaps hindsight it would've been worth worth it
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and I'd paid it back and whatever.
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But at the time I got a job working in comms
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and social media for an international sports federation.
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And that took me out to a lot
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of international sports events.
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It took me to the Olympic games.
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It got me mixing with kind of all the right people.
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So while it wasn't specifically presenting,
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it got me experience working in international sports
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settings with production companies with international media.
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And so you just get contacts from doing that
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and you make connections and network and whatever else.
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I also started doing like a little bit of sport presentation
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just after that job.
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Um, so sport presentation being kind of like the big screens
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at sporting venues, right?
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So you are like stadium presenter or pitch side presenter.
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Uh, and that was a really good place for me to start
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because you are already taught the basics of like,
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here's your microphone, here are your ears,
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here's your talk back, here's your cue.
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You are live, but with
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not much consequence if things go wrong, .
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Yeah. You're exposed.
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And obviously at the time being so green
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and new, you feel exposed massively,
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but you're nowhere near as exposed
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as if you're suddenly put on F1 TV with no experience.
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Tens of thousands of people
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rather than millions of people.
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Yeah. It's a slightly different stakes.
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Exactly. Actually. And where people can
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take I actually, yeah, go ahead. Oh
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No, sorry.
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I'm just excited. Um,
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'cause the never had the opportunity to do this.
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We should just talk about crew for the rest
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of this interview.
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You, I didn't know you rode. I rode.
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We can just ignore James.
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Oh my gosh. Dunno if you tell I'm
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Six two.
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I was obviously a coxswain. Um, but now we can just,
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Sets me, so I was, I was a lightweight rower,
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which meant I had to be under a certain weight.
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I was not . Yeah.
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No, I'm not.
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I mean, I'm six months pregnant, so I am not anymore ,
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but there is no way that I could ever even
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get close to the way I was at.
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It was kind of crazy. Um,
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but I, yeah, lightweight, double lightweight pair.
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but , they'd always put me at two.
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I'm sure they loved when you called them that . Well,
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I didn't mean that.
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I do you know what I mean? Like the taller, stronger,
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better women at rowing than me.
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And like, they just stick me at two
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and I just tap it along at the
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back, like hoping for the best. I
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Love it.
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Yeah. I, we, we actually probably shouldn't,
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although I know two people listening that would love this.
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Jackson and my old rowing coach
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Tony, listen to every episode.
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So shout out to those guys. But we,
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we could stop talking about rowing now.
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Rowing is incredible. And Jim, sorry, please.
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Rowing is amazing. And honestly,
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when you have those mornings where you're in your single
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and absolutely mowing down the river and like it's just you
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and you just see nature and wildlife
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and sunrise, it is glorious. Yeah. I loved it
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As much as I look,
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I I love learning about your sporting past Laura.
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As much as I hate to give Tim any opening
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to contribute more in this show, I do have to say
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that exchange was good for me to hear
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because I now understand how Aunt Linda feels
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and Aunt Linda is what we say when we get too
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inside baseball on a broadcast about motor sports.
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Ah, and I'm just talking in motor sports terms
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that you just know so well,
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but you forget that people
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who don't follow racing wouldn't know this.
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Yes. I literally understood nothing outside
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of the fact that you guys rode.
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None of the terminology made any sense to me.
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I feel like Aunt Linda. And it was a nice moment
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to kind of be on the other side of it. You didn't,
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You didn't get Cox.
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Would you like to learn about the term by swept?
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Uh, you wanna know
How to catch crabs?
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Yeah. Would you like to catch a
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crab
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Is that a, is that a common thing that happens
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to buy Schweppes?
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Yep.
It it is in fact. Yeah, I would
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Say so. Anyway,
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They,
Because they play both,
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like they go both ways, right? So Yeah.
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Okay. You, you, you sweep from either
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side of the boat. Yeah,
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You swing, but way,
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We're still on the boat.
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Anyway. Umt, uh, thanks Laura.
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I, I, I, uh, uh, oh, I, I'm flustered. Um, um,
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So I started dance sports presentation.
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Yeah. In Yes, yes. In the stadiums.
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And, and where do we go from there?
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And then I moved into, so I started doing work
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experience as well at the same time.
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So I was getting lots of like very low pay jobs
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or work experience jobs.
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I've moved back home at this point from the
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federation. Yes. James.
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So, so sorry. When you were doing the, the arena stuff,
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what sports were they netball?
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Like were they sports? You knew anything about netball?
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Okay. Yeah. I started off in netball
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and I'd done netball at school
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and you, you get to know sports, um, as well.
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So yeah, I kind of was learning a lot on the job
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and did a fair bit of prep leading up to it too.
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Yeah. So did you ever have to cover a sport at that level
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that you hadn't followed previously?
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Well, I guess like netball, you didn't,
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netball didn't have the coverage
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that it certainly has now and doesn't,
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Hmm? Did you ever play it?
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and I appreciate, this is a very British thing.
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in the UK would've played hockey or netball at school.
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Hockey.
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Yes. Yes. Not ice. We don't have ice in the uk.
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so netball is, um, so it's mostly,
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but it's mostly a female sport.
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or dribble with the ball.
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and not allowed in, depending in opposition.
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It's so fast, so athletic, so powerful. It's amazing.
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I love it. So good. Oh
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Yeah, I know what Tim's gonna be
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googling later tonight. Oh,
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They're like six foot two. So strong, incredible women. You
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Did need more reason to, uh, to Google,
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but, you know, um, so, so, so did you ever have to,
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so, 'cause you played netball,
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so at least you understood the fundamentals.
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So did you ever have to cover something
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or what was the first time you had to cover something
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that was completely foreign to you?
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Like you knew Nothing. You knew as much about that sport
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as I know about rowing.
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My,
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because that's where I now basically live. So
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Was that your first motor sport was rally
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Cross?
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So, um, I'll kind of fast forward through the story.
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So I, I did, um, two years on a sports desk doing, um,
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as a trainee sports journalist.
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And then I went to freelance as a presenter,
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but I had like three clients, not even, um, horribly paid.
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And I earned 40 pounds in my first month.
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So it wasn't like the blistering start to a virgining career
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as a presenter as perhaps you'd expect.
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I worked a lot in cycling.
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of worked all the sports that I knew.
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Well, athletics, um, football, rugby.
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And it kind of like shifted from sort of streaming
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and sport presentation to more tv.
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Um, as, as the years went on.
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And then in 2019, that's when motor sport came along
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and I was asked to present four rounds
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of the world rally cross championship.
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And I was like, yes, absolutely. Signed the contract.
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And then was like, what is Rallycross ? I had no clue.
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Like I'd never worked in motor sport.
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I'd never seen it as a sport that I would be involved in.
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Not because I didn't like it, but I just didn't know.
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Um, and so yes, rally course
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was the sport motor sport is that sport.
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Okay, that's so this is perfect.
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So I've always wondered,
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'cause I, I've seen other presenters and other commentators
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and people that I really admire in the TV world, bounce
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around to different things.
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Like I've done exactly two, well, three different series,
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two of which I've raced in in the past,
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and the other one I've followed since I was a kid. So like,
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And you did dancing.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I guess I did have to learn that one, but I didn't have to.
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Yeah, it's, that's okay. That's interesting.
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But I've never on the TV side had to really work anything.
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I had kind of zero knowledge of.
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So how did you go about preparing yourself to go on air
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and lead a show about a sport
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about which you knew very little?
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Uh, lots of YouTube. So I watched lots of past races.
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I, I love you, you know, this hinch about me.
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I love prep and notes and like diving into a topic.
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So I was a complete nerd and researched and researched.
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So I watched a lot of it.
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I watched the format of
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how the shows I was gonna be in would run.
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how a weekend would go.
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Uh, I saw and in
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and researched the athletes, the drivers
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who are gonna be racing.
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But you are right. There's, there's only
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so much you can actually prepare before.
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There are some things you just don't know,
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like terminology, you don't know.
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The amount of times I called drivers riders
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'cause I was so used to working in cycling crazy.
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But I was very lucky that I had, um, Andrew Coley,
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who's the commentator on Rallycross.
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He kind of took me under his wing, showed me the paddock,
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taught me everything, like, took me right back to basics.
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No ego, no agenda. Just helped me so much.
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And that was so useful
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and such a gracious, generous, you know, friend to have
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to do that because he didn't have to like,
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he didn't owe me anything, you know,
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but he wanted the show to be as a success
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and he wanted me to, to be able to be successful as well.
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So, um, yeah, that was, so I remember the first, the first
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broadcast I was using words like Blue Groove and Green Track
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and Evolution
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and all these concepts that like, I now understand
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and I'm so used to using and understand the impact of them.
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But at the time I was just like, if I just, I'll,
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that sounds right, I'll say that right.
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And then I'll kind of understand it afterwards.
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Yeah. Fake it until
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You make it. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, yeah, to an extent.
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But I, I always, I'm always somebody who I would hate
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to go into a sport and not do it justice
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and not give it the, the respect, the recognition
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and the drivers, the recognition they deserve.
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So I'd hate to go in and just kind of mess about
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and do it in a half ass way.
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So yeah, I was really keen on
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understanding everything I possibly could.
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Um, and then part of the job was just interviewing drivers,
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and I say just interviewing drivers,
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but that for me is having a conversation with a human being.
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You know, and this, sometimes the best interviews are down
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to the simplest questions.
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What happened? Why did it happen?
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How are you gonna be better next time?
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Or what did you learn, you know, those kind of high, how,
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why, what, where questions are are sometimes the, the basics
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and the template to work from.
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Yeah, I mean I've, I've seen your, your
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preparation skills, and approach, you know, firsthand.
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So I, yeah, I believe that, you know, you put a lot
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of work into doing that first one.
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Um, and then from there, I mean I, I I,
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I kinda look back now
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and Formula One, uh, rally cross, uh,
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F1 Academy Extremey, um,
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what's the, what's the, the boat one, sorry?
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E one. E one. So
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Yeah, ive only a couple of those I needed
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done like a couple of those.
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They needed, they needed a percentage to fill in
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and I, I was available kind of thing.
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But now several different types
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of motorsports including, you know Yeah.
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The pinnacle of the sports. Yeah. In Formula One.
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How did, how did that opportunity come about? So
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It came from Rally Cross.
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And this I think is something that, the kind
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of advice I'd always give is you never know who's
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looking, who's watching.
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You never know what job, what one moment,
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one opportunity can lead to.
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And so the director on the rally cross was a chap called
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Steve Flow, who is one of our camera operators on F1.
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So he's worked with Formula One management for years.
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And he said to me, oh, F1 are actually looking for,
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for new presenters and,
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and kind of like widening the pool, would you be interested?
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And I'm like, yeah.
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Like at this point I'm loving motor sport.
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I feel really at home in a paddock.
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I feel like weirdly, like I should always have been there.
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Strange. 'cause I didn't have any right to be,
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but I just felt like it was my place.
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Yeah. And so I said yes, jumped at the chance, crack on.
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Yeah. And then I had a, I had
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what I thought was gonna be a bit of a meeting slash kind
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of audition slash interview.
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Um, and it was like a phone call
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and it was, can you do Belgium in 2019?
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And I was like, yes. And that was it.
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And then suddenly I'm on my way to spa one
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of the greatest racetracks in the world.
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And I remember it was, um,
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a mid-season driver switch as well.
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So Pierre Gia being taken out of Red Bull,
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Alex Alban being put in.
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It was, yeah. There was so much going on.
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And then it was ultimately
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and tragically a very, very sad weekend
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because we lost, um, Antoine Hubbert as well.
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So I kind of saw firsthand the, the best
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and the absolute worst e motor sport all in one.
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You had to deal with that your very first weekend?
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That was my first race. Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh my God.
I know I was in the pit lane
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during the F two race as well, reporting.
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So I, my first time in a pit lane, um, it was, yeah,
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but it felt very young.
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It felt very, for me, I felt like I was
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massively intruding on grief.
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'cause it, I just stepped into the paddock and didn't Right.
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Didn't know, you know, I didn't know the people.
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I didn't know Antoine, very sadly.
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Um, so yeah, I yeah, that
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Is heavy.
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Yeah, that is heavy because
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First
You really, you really prepare for that, right?
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I mean, there's no, you can't practice that kind of thing.
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You can rehearse an opening, you can, you know,
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practice talking through a countdown
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and trying to hit the post, but there's, you know, dealing
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With, yeah, you can learn terminology, but yeah.
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Nothing prepares you for, for a death. That's brutal.
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So yeah, I was, I so yeah.
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Stays with that, stays with you, that one for sure.
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I, you, you, you
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parlay that, you obviously do a good job
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because 2019 in Belgium was not your last Formula one race.
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It was not
And, uh, spoiler on that.
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And now you fast forward to 2025
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and you are the face of F1 tv.
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You are the lead presenter, it's your show.
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And this is during a time
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where the sport is absolutely blowing up globally.
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It's in, in especially, you know, uh,
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sharp trajectory upwards in North America.
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And now you walk around cities
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and get recognized as that the Laura win,
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the Laura Winter from F1 tv.
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Could you have predicted,
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or would you ever have thought in Belgium in 2019
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that this is where, you know, things could have gone?
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No, never. I am, I'm so genuinely humbled
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and grateful for it.
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It's, it's, it blows me away every time. Um, it's crazy.
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It's, it's, and it's so funny
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'cause I live a really normal, simple life at home
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where like, I don't really, I met, people may know of me in,
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because I live in a, in a town where people know
504
00:20:19.055 --> 00:20:21.855
that I live in that town, but, and kind of what I do.
505
00:20:22.195 --> 00:20:24.535
But I live a very lovely, like, simple life
506
00:20:24.535 --> 00:20:26.935
where I get coffee and walk the dog and go to the gym
507
00:20:27.075 --> 00:20:29.775
and, you know, and then you come to a racetrack
508
00:20:29.795 --> 00:20:31.655
and it's this entirely different environment.
509
00:20:31.655 --> 00:20:34.135
So you kind of have to, it's almost like two different
510
00:20:34.135 --> 00:20:35.495
versions of yourself in a way.
511
00:20:36.115 --> 00:20:38.015
But I never, I could never,
512
00:20:38.015 --> 00:20:41.495
ever have imagined it in a million years all I wanted to do.
513
00:20:41.515 --> 00:20:43.135
And genuinely, all I still want
514
00:20:43.135 --> 00:20:45.335
to do is do a better job than the weekend before.
515
00:20:45.515 --> 00:20:48.005
So I just wanna continue to get better and better
516
00:20:48.025 --> 00:20:51.565
and better at my job to create better shows,
517
00:20:51.665 --> 00:20:54.525
to enhance the coverage, to work with a team,
518
00:20:55.145 --> 00:20:56.365
to tell the stories.
519
00:20:56.645 --> 00:20:59.445
I just want, that's my goal for always is just to
520
00:21:00.025 --> 00:21:01.085
be a better presenter.
521
00:21:01.385 --> 00:21:03.565
And I think I've got the personality of somebody who,
522
00:21:04.925 --> 00:21:07.185
you know, sometimes it's a blessing, sometimes it's a curse.
523
00:21:07.415 --> 00:21:08.825
Nothing's quite ever good enough.
524
00:21:09.325 --> 00:21:11.225
But that kind of is the drive that keeps you going.
525
00:21:11.705 --> 00:21:12.705
I think if I didn't have that,
526
00:21:12.725 --> 00:21:14.745
you perhaps wouldn't hit the standards
527
00:21:14.745 --> 00:21:15.785
that I want to hit, you know?
528
00:21:16.835 --> 00:21:19.845
Yeah. And again, it's, it's that athlete mentality and it,
529
00:21:19.905 --> 00:21:22.925
and it kinda, it kind of leads me to this next question,
530
00:21:23.015 --> 00:21:25.365
which I'm fairly certain I know the answer to,
531
00:21:25.545 --> 00:21:29.445
but some big news this week on the Formula One side
532
00:21:29.665 --> 00:21:31.165
and the television side in terms
533
00:21:31.165 --> 00:21:33.645
of Apple getting the rights in the United States
534
00:21:34.505 --> 00:21:35.525
for Formula One.
535
00:21:35.755 --> 00:21:39.615
Yeah. And I know there's still some details to come out,
536
00:21:39.615 --> 00:21:40.855
but essentially, you know,
537
00:21:41.595 --> 00:21:43.615
you're gonna be presenting now in front
538
00:21:43.615 --> 00:21:45.415
of a potentially much bigger audience
539
00:21:46.125 --> 00:21:48.095
with a name like Apple behind it.
540
00:21:49.565 --> 00:21:51.095
Yeah.
Do you, do you like this?
541
00:21:51.215 --> 00:21:53.335
I mean, that adds pressure, that adds stress,
542
00:21:53.365 --> 00:21:55.255
that adds eyeballs, it adds, you know,
543
00:21:55.255 --> 00:21:56.455
importance to the whole thing.
544
00:21:56.515 --> 00:21:58.055
Is that, is that a kind of pressure
545
00:21:58.055 --> 00:21:59.495
that you relish and thrive under?
546
00:21:59.605 --> 00:22:00.975
Yeah. Or are you a little bit like,
547
00:22:01.195 --> 00:22:03.295
I'm sick bit the fingernails a bit about you ? No, no.
548
00:22:03.315 --> 00:22:04.295
I'm a bit sick. I love
It. I
549
00:22:04.295 --> 00:22:05.255
think it's a, I think it's a competitor.
550
00:22:05.415 --> 00:22:06.975
I think you've naturally love that. Yeah.
551
00:22:06.975 --> 00:22:08.215
So this was good news for you.
552
00:22:08.485 --> 00:22:10.735
Yeah, exactly. It, there's always those moments
553
00:22:10.735 --> 00:22:12.415
where you're like, this is a really big show.
554
00:22:12.485 --> 00:22:14.455
Like the US Prera show, for example.
555
00:22:14.875 --> 00:22:15.815
You know, there are gonna be
556
00:22:15.815 --> 00:22:16.895
so many people watching that one.
557
00:22:17.025 --> 00:22:18.575
There are certain races in the year which,
558
00:22:18.575 --> 00:22:20.095
you know, have more viewers.
559
00:22:20.365 --> 00:22:22.055
There's certain shows where, you know,
560
00:22:22.055 --> 00:22:23.055
that certain people could be
561
00:22:23.255 --> 00:22:24.215
watching and there's more pressure.
562
00:22:25.095 --> 00:22:26.535
I am quite sick and I love it.
563
00:22:26.535 --> 00:22:30.055
Like, I love putting myself under that kind of pressure.
564
00:22:30.595 --> 00:22:35.095
Um, obviously in the moment you are like, okay, oh,
565
00:22:35.165 --> 00:22:36.255
this feels uncomfortable.
566
00:22:36.875 --> 00:22:40.635
And there probably was a time where I would, where I would,
567
00:22:41.115 --> 00:22:43.275
I remember when I was swimming, when I was a kid, I used
568
00:22:43.275 --> 00:22:44.795
to get so nervous that I'd be like,
569
00:22:44.895 --> 00:22:47.315
I'd rather be anywhere else I'd wanna do it.
570
00:22:47.315 --> 00:22:48.795
But I would have these moments where I'm like,
571
00:22:48.935 --> 00:22:51.155
I'd rather be anywhere else in the world right now than
572
00:22:51.635 --> 00:22:52.835
standing on this block about to swim.
573
00:22:53.255 --> 00:22:55.475
And that wasn't very, obviously that didn't lead
574
00:22:55.475 --> 00:22:57.555
to a very good performance because your head's not in it.
575
00:22:58.255 --> 00:23:00.875
But now with presenting, I'm at this point
576
00:23:00.875 --> 00:23:02.875
where I'm like the biggest pre,
577
00:23:02.935 --> 00:23:04.475
the bigger, the bigger the pressure.
578
00:23:05.865 --> 00:23:09.065
I love it. Yeah. I reli I relish it. I thrive under it.
579
00:23:09.485 --> 00:23:11.785
Um, I always kinda like have to be put under that pressure
580
00:23:11.785 --> 00:23:14.785
to bring out some of my best or better work.
581
00:23:15.295 --> 00:23:19.265
Yeah. I, I kind of, I feel the same way in the sense
582
00:23:19.265 --> 00:23:22.225
that there's something about live television as well that
583
00:23:22.965 --> 00:23:24.145
is, is such a rush.
584
00:23:24.175 --> 00:23:25.185
Like there's a high there
585
00:23:25.185 --> 00:23:27.185
that I don't think you would get in something Yeah.
586
00:23:27.185 --> 00:23:29.665
That was scripted. Or you had time to reshoot.
587
00:23:29.685 --> 00:23:30.985
Do you, have you done much?
588
00:23:32.045 --> 00:23:33.925
I mean, scripted is the wrong thing, you know,
589
00:23:33.925 --> 00:23:36.125
you're not a you're not an actor necessarily, but like No,
590
00:23:36.125 --> 00:23:38.045
Like the prerecorded stuff, like pre-records.
591
00:23:38.045 --> 00:23:39.285
Yeah. And, you know, or shows
592
00:23:39.285 --> 00:23:40.805
that are highlight shows, for example.
593
00:23:40.865 --> 00:23:42.565
So you're kind of like pre-recording links,
594
00:23:42.975 --> 00:23:43.975
Right?
595
00:23:44.385 --> 00:23:46.745
No, you don't get any, you don't get the adrenaline rush.
596
00:23:46.845 --> 00:23:48.985
Yes. And I guess, but hinge for you, it must be interesting
597
00:23:49.145 --> 00:23:50.865
'cause you've come from like the biggest adrenaline rush in
598
00:23:50.865 --> 00:23:53.345
the, in the world, which is racing cars into,
599
00:23:54.725 --> 00:23:56.055
into live broadcasting.
600
00:23:56.075 --> 00:23:59.535
And I'm guessing there's probably quite a few crossovers
601
00:23:59.535 --> 00:24:00.615
and parallels that you can draw
602
00:24:00.995 --> 00:24:04.015
and the feelings maybe probably not quite so similar,
603
00:24:04.075 --> 00:24:06.735
but the feelings may be similar in sense of that, like,
604
00:24:06.885 --> 00:24:09.695
that nervous energy, the adrenaline when, not when,
605
00:24:09.695 --> 00:24:10.855
like when I come off the grid
606
00:24:10.855 --> 00:24:15.455
and we've like, nailed the show, done a great rap, I'm like,
607
00:24:16.245 --> 00:24:17.335
Yeah, you're like, it, you're
608
00:24:17.415 --> 00:24:18.415
Amped.
609
00:24:18.415 --> 00:24:19.575
I'm so amped. And if it's like a big show,
610
00:24:20.015 --> 00:24:21.975
I can be like shaking with adrenaline.
611
00:24:22.085 --> 00:24:25.325
Like I love it so much. It's like a drug.
612
00:24:25.585 --> 00:24:28.165
It is a com, you know, and it's the kind of feeling of like
613
00:24:28.775 --> 00:24:31.285
never quite nailing it.
614
00:24:31.285 --> 00:24:32.485
There's always something I'm like,
615
00:24:32.635 --> 00:24:33.925
that could have been, that could been better.
616
00:24:34.245 --> 00:24:35.965
I liked that, but I could have done done it this way.
617
00:24:35.965 --> 00:24:38.165
That keeps you kind of coming back from more. Yeah.
618
00:24:38.165 --> 00:24:42.445
But also that feeling of the adrenaline and the achievement
619
00:24:42.705 --> 00:24:45.285
and a show coming together or,
620
00:24:45.585 --> 00:24:47.685
or a moment where perhaps something's kind of like,
621
00:24:47.695 --> 00:24:48.925
could be going really wrong,
622
00:24:48.985 --> 00:24:50.245
but you kind of bring it back from
623
00:24:50.245 --> 00:24:51.285
the save it from the brink.
624
00:24:51.905 --> 00:24:53.445
Oh, that's, yeah. Yeah.
625
00:24:53.545 --> 00:24:54.545
If people
Addictive
626
00:24:54.545 --> 00:24:55.845
Feeling, if people could, if people could see some
627
00:24:55.845 --> 00:24:59.445
of the chaos that happens offscreen behind the, you know,
628
00:24:59.445 --> 00:25:01.205
during shows like Yeah.
629
00:25:01.205 --> 00:25:04.405
Running orders, completely changing, guests canceling,
630
00:25:04.405 --> 00:25:08.485
like having to pivot and improv in the moment there,
631
00:25:08.505 --> 00:25:11.885
and then, and when you nail that it does, it feels so good.
632
00:25:11.885 --> 00:25:13.125
Yeah. It is like a drug, right?
633
00:25:13.155 --> 00:25:14.445
It's, there's a lot of parallels.
634
00:25:14.445 --> 00:25:17.725
You're right between this, you know, the stakes are high,
635
00:25:17.825 --> 00:25:18.885
but in a different way
636
00:25:18.885 --> 00:25:20.325
because whereas, you know,
637
00:25:20.325 --> 00:25:22.725
obviously there's a safety implication if you get something
638
00:25:22.725 --> 00:25:25.965
wrong when you're driving, you know that there's millions
639
00:25:25.965 --> 00:25:27.485
of people watching you do this thing
640
00:25:27.545 --> 00:25:29.805
and you don't have a chance to redo it, you know, the,
641
00:25:29.805 --> 00:25:30.885
the red light goes on
642
00:25:31.585 --> 00:25:33.085
and you have your block of time
643
00:25:33.085 --> 00:25:34.125
until the red light goes off.
644
00:25:34.125 --> 00:25:36.405
Yeah. And there's, you can't redo any of it.
645
00:25:36.625 --> 00:25:38.045
And it's, uh, it's cool.
646
00:25:38.085 --> 00:25:40.605
I, I love, I love working with you in those scenarios
647
00:25:40.605 --> 00:25:43.445
because I think we've got a similar energy in that sense.
648
00:25:43.445 --> 00:25:45.525
Yeah. I think we both obviously thrive on it in the same
649
00:25:45.525 --> 00:25:48.045
way, and even when it's manic we can, you know,
650
00:25:48.045 --> 00:25:50.445
buckle down when we need to and uh, yeah.
651
00:25:50.445 --> 00:25:52.205
And it's a lot of fun. Yeah, for
652
00:25:52.205 --> 00:25:53.205
Sure.
653
00:25:53.205 --> 00:25:54.005
Speaking of this being like a drug, um,
654
00:25:55.555 --> 00:25:56.965
this is actually an intervention.
655
00:25:57.705 --> 00:26:00.325
Uh, yeah, yeah. We, we care about you a lot, you know, ,
656
00:26:00.645 --> 00:26:02.885
it's, it's you, you're getting too into racing.
657
00:26:03.465 --> 00:26:05.765
Yes.
, we're gonna, we're gonna ask you
658
00:26:05.765 --> 00:26:06.765
to sit the next one out.
659
00:26:06.785 --> 00:26:07.785
Oh,
. Okay.
660
00:26:09.065 --> 00:26:11.125
I'm, well, I'm not doing Brazil, unfortunately.
661
00:26:11.275 --> 00:26:12.605
Well, yeah, that's actually by design.
662
00:26:12.605 --> 00:26:16.285
Laura, we, uh, told you that that was, uh, your decision,
663
00:26:16.385 --> 00:26:19.725
but , um, and guys,
664
00:26:19.725 --> 00:26:21.805
You're lucky I'm gonna be missing a few next year,
665
00:26:22.515 --> 00:26:25.445
obviously when I welcome baby. So
666
00:26:25.985 --> 00:26:26.985
Yes.
667
00:26:26.985 --> 00:26:27.845
And congrats on that, which
668
00:26:27.845 --> 00:26:30.005
Will be a whole other drug of , some sort.
669
00:26:30.085 --> 00:26:31.885
I don't know what kind of drug experience that'll be,
670
00:26:32.185 --> 00:26:34.405
but that will be obviously an
671
00:26:34.405 --> 00:26:35.405
Exhausting one, its
Own
672
00:26:35.405 --> 00:26:36.205
thing.
.
673
00:26:36.225 --> 00:26:37.485
Yes. Thank
674
00:26:37.485 --> 00:26:38.605
You. Yeah,
675
00:26:39.145 --> 00:26:40.485
So, we'll, well, I know we we're running
676
00:26:40.485 --> 00:26:41.605
outta time, so we'll, we'll wrap it up.
677
00:26:41.605 --> 00:26:43.330
But I think you, you know, you brought it it up
678
00:26:43.330 --> 00:26:47.045
and I think, uh, I think a lot of people are wondering,
679
00:26:47.045 --> 00:26:49.045
they're curious, you know, you've obviously announced your
680
00:26:49.045 --> 00:26:51.685
pregnancy and, uh, would love to know kind of
681
00:26:51.685 --> 00:26:53.805
what the plan is with, as far as you know,
682
00:26:53.865 --> 00:26:55.045
or what the goal is.
683
00:26:55.165 --> 00:26:56.765
I don't know how much you're allowed to share in terms of,
684
00:26:57.395 --> 00:26:59.325
Well, you named the baby James, you know,
685
00:26:59.425 --> 00:27:00.725
The baby's middle name is gonna be James.
686
00:27:00.725 --> 00:27:01.845
We've already established that .
687
00:27:02.585 --> 00:27:04.725
We
Ha we haven't, we we discussed it earlier
688
00:27:04.785 --> 00:27:06.525
and I told you it wasn't,
689
00:27:06.525 --> 00:27:08.445
but that's okay. Uh, maybe it's Tim
690
00:27:08.795 --> 00:27:09.795
Working.
691
00:27:09.795 --> 00:27:11.045
It's a working name. It's a working middle name.
692
00:27:11.075 --> 00:27:12.805
Working on it. We're working on it. All right.
693
00:27:12.865 --> 00:27:15.125
Can I throw Tim in the ring? No, you, yeah,
694
00:27:15.135 --> 00:27:16.135
Tim's.
695
00:27:16.135 --> 00:27:17.565
Well, I'll put Tim in there. I'll put, I'll put Tim in.
696
00:27:17.565 --> 00:27:20.525
I'll see. Yeah, we'll see. Uh, we do have our,
697
00:27:20.865 --> 00:27:22.965
we have a name that we had decided on,
698
00:27:23.345 --> 00:27:25.325
but we're trying another name
699
00:27:26.625 --> 00:27:28.565
for size, um, yes. Just to say
700
00:27:28.565 --> 00:27:29.565
Yes, I like this.
701
00:27:29.565 --> 00:27:30.685
I like this idea. You're telling me about this concept
702
00:27:30.825 --> 00:27:31.885
and just sort of like referring
703
00:27:31.985 --> 00:27:33.965
To the baby, just it sounds I'm name Yeah, yeah.
704
00:27:33.965 --> 00:27:36.005
Screaming up, you know, up the stairs. The,
705
00:27:36.145 --> 00:27:37.765
The important thing you also have to remember is you gotta
706
00:27:37.765 --> 00:27:39.245
go through all the potential like,
707
00:27:39.475 --> 00:27:41.245
like bad nicknames that Yes.
708
00:27:41.245 --> 00:27:43.085
Awful kids could give it. Right, exactly.
709
00:27:43.085 --> 00:27:45.245
So you gotta really put your mind into a dark place
710
00:27:45.425 --> 00:27:47.565
and think of, yes, what could I call this kid?
711
00:27:47.785 --> 00:27:49.805
How many
Can be you also to own?
712
00:27:49.945 --> 00:27:53.205
You realize how many people you really don't like. Yes,
713
00:27:55.165 --> 00:27:56.165
I know one of those.
714
00:27:56.165 --> 00:27:59.045
I don't, I know an Alex, I'm not doing that. Yeah. I, I
715
00:27:59.245 --> 00:28:00.445
Actually knew a really horrible Tim.
716
00:28:00.625 --> 00:28:01.845
I'm not gonna go into Tim, you know,
717
00:28:01.845 --> 00:28:04.405
That's, it was so do me, so do I.
718
00:28:05.545 --> 00:28:07.685
Uh, but no, the plan, uh, I wish I knew .
719
00:28:08.925 --> 00:28:11.445
I think, um, no, look, obviously, um, you,
720
00:28:11.865 --> 00:28:12.925
you kind of have to plan.
721
00:28:12.925 --> 00:28:15.765
There's a, there's an element of planning,
722
00:28:16.265 --> 00:28:18.285
but also knowing that that plan could change
723
00:28:19.025 --> 00:28:21.805
and not, I don't know what I don't know, right?
724
00:28:21.805 --> 00:28:24.405
This is my first baby. We have no idea
725
00:28:24.625 --> 00:28:26.605
how hard it's gonna be, how wonderful it's gonna be,
726
00:28:26.605 --> 00:28:27.605
how magical it's gonna be.
727
00:28:28.125 --> 00:28:30.125
I dunno how that may change how I feel about certain things.
728
00:28:30.645 --> 00:28:33.725
I do know right now that I have every intention
729
00:28:33.725 --> 00:28:35.005
of coming back to work.
730
00:28:35.665 --> 00:28:38.165
Um, oh, a lamp just turned on in the room.
731
00:28:38.165 --> 00:28:40.205
Sorry, that was really, it's like a ghost was in here.
732
00:28:40.545 --> 00:28:44.725
Um, I have every intention of coming back to work, um, kind
733
00:28:44.725 --> 00:28:46.525
of looking at within kind of three months
734
00:28:47.345 --> 00:28:48.735
after baby arrives.
735
00:28:49.235 --> 00:28:50.855
Um, there may be moms out there listening,
736
00:28:50.855 --> 00:28:51.975
going, she's got no
737
00:28:52.125 --> 00:28:53.125
idea
.
738
00:28:54.355 --> 00:28:56.335
Um, but that's, that's the vague plan.
739
00:28:57.235 --> 00:29:00.455
But obviously, um, not in my nature too.
740
00:29:00.615 --> 00:29:02.495
I do love a plan and I love being in complete
741
00:29:02.495 --> 00:29:03.655
control of my own plans.
742
00:29:04.355 --> 00:29:06.695
Um, very open to it changing and,
743
00:29:06.955 --> 00:29:08.975
and realizing that, you know,
744
00:29:10.005 --> 00:29:11.465
that's the other things may happen
745
00:29:11.465 --> 00:29:13.225
and they're out of my control and,
746
00:29:13.285 --> 00:29:14.745
and kind of going with the flow with that,
747
00:29:15.215 --> 00:29:16.385
It's, it's kinda like live tv.
748
00:29:16.575 --> 00:29:19.505
It's just live human, uh, live human. Yeah.
749
00:29:19.505 --> 00:29:21.305
Once that light turns on, it's on
750
00:29:21.445 --> 00:29:22.505
and things are gonna change
751
00:29:22.565 --> 00:29:24.025
and you just gotta, you know, exactly.
752
00:29:24.225 --> 00:29:25.265
Improvises in the moment and off you go.
753
00:29:25.375 --> 00:29:27.465
Well, that's very cool. Exactly. It's, thank you.
754
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It's very exciting. Uh, it's, it is inspiring.
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I mean, I, I, I sit there
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and I don't obviously see a fraction of it,
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but the number of people that I see coming up to you
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and, uh, and telling you how much of an inspiration you are
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to them, um, it's, it's, it's awesome.
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It's very cool to see, I mean, you have a,
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a very important role that has a lot of impact on a lot
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of people, and I think you carry that well
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and there's a, there's a responsibility there,
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and I think you handle it super well.
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Um, and it's, uh, a real pleasure to,
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to kinda have you on the show and,
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and get you sharing some of that story with us.
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Thank you so much. I owe you dinner after that. Crikey, .
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Thanks . I think I owe you dinner for having drawn out,
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having you on this podcast over the last like 28
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hours, but, uh,
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No, no, it's been a pleasure.
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Thank you so much, guys for having me.
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Um, and yeah, I really appreciate it, James.
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It's wonderful to work with you on F1 tv.
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Likewise, thank you for everything you've done
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to teach me over the years.
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It's been a blast. And, uh,
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look forward to doing it this weekend.
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