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This is off track. Oh, we're recording.
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Yeah.
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Terrific.
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I tried to warn people. I've
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Just wanted
Be known.
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Criticizing you guys.
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It will now be every episode, at least something will be
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consumed as audibly as possible.
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Hopefully off the top of every single episode.
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Although I did see some, these are actually good, made,
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good little cluster granola clusters.
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Wow. I just bought this at the airport last night
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when I couldn't get food.
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Well, we'll get into that on Thursday.
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Um, last one, I promise.
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Also a convenient way to burn a little bit of time.
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You're either muted Tim,
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or for some reason I can't hear you talking.
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There we go. I just heard noise. Nope. Nope.
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I heard you rustle with the microphone.
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How about now?
Now I got you. Now
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I got you man.
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We're just burning time, which is a good thing
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because there's nothing to talk about in the racing world
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today, especially for somebody who works for both IndyCar
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and F1 tv.
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This is a tough day to be me .
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It's a, it's a tough day for me
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to have an opinion based podcast that is racing centric.
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When I am currently, and my two biggest employers are F1
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and Fox via IndyCar.
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It's um, or IndyCar via Fox.
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It'd be nice if FAF or P faf could get involved somehow.
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Yeah,
Let's just to really round it out,
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Let's just have them petition for like Petit Laman
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to be held on Memorial Day weekend.
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So obviously Tim, you're talking about the news
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that came out about the F1 schedule.
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Yeah.
Um, which lands
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the Montreal Formula One race.
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Mm-hmm . The closest race geographically to the state
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of Indiana on the day of the 8,500
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A 2:00 PM start time.
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So assuming no weather delays starting right
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as the 500 is coming to a conclusion
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No, no.
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We'll be dead in the middle of the race.
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Oh yeah. I guess that's true. I thought
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If it was starting at the conclusion of, if,
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if they were at the conclusion of the race, that'd be fine.
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I meant like the what? I mean they always,
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you guys always say the Indy 500 is two races survive
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for 150 laps.
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Race for 50 laps. Yes. Yes.
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So, but I guess I, I was in my head, I was thinking
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of noon start time, but that's noon broadcast start time.
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1240 ish green flag.
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I mean we were on air at 10:00 AM but
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That was the pre-show though.
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I'm talking about the actual broadcast window
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that's listed as the Indy 500. That
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Is true.
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That is true. That was right. Um, yeah.
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So let's talk about this.
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Not only have we cannibalized
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what was the coolest day in motor sports?
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It was Motorsport fans Christmas day. Yes.
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By having Monaco Grum pri first thing in the morning,
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then you watch the Indy 500 and then you'd hunker down
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and buckle in for the Coca-Cola 600.
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We knew that Monaco was moving.
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Yeah.
I don't know if I ever found out exactly why
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I it's, yeah, that's a good point.
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I dunno if it's because they didn't want
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to be on the same day as the 500.
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'cause I, I think next year it goes Monaco Indie
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and then Lamar three weekends in a row.
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I think that might be spoken outta turn.
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Again, this is not a fact-based show. Everybody now
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We do very little research,
Very and no follow up
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And occasionally whatsoever you guys just don't show up.
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Tune in later this week for more on that .
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Um, so whatever. So it's moving.
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This one, this one was so surprising though
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because I literally had pro one in particular, example
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of a very prominent member
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of the Formula One community reach out to me being like, I'm
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so happy I can finally go to the Indie 500.
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Where should I stay? What?
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And we were, I was, you know, trying to walk him through how
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to do indie and then he text me like a day.
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Yeah, well, Saturday night, that's where you gotta be a day
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or two later just get a text being like, scrap that.
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Just saw the calendar for F1
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and they did it on the same weekend.
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It's absolutely bonkers. It's baffling. It makes no sense.
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Let's remind everybody that Montreal F1,
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um, is held on a track that's a park,
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it's like the only race they have all year.
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So it's not like there's a date issue if you push it a week
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or something like that.
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Lama the weekend after Indy.
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So you, you, I could see F1 not wanting to push
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Montreal to that weekend
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because I feel like a bunch of the reserve drivers
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and stuff in F1 are in fact driving at Lamont,
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but also they have more than one reserve driver.
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So deal with that problem rather than taking
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on the biggest race in the world head to head.
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This makes no sense. It's gonna, so
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I, I saw, I saw a lot of, I'm sorry I cut you off.
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No, no, no, no, please.
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of stuff on Twitter that was pointed out.
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Like they're not going to really, it's not going
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to be a competition in the United States.
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The Indy five hundred's going to blow it out of the water.
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Uh, most people expect, and I,
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and I think that's probably fair.
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Maybe it'll cut in a little bit,
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but I don't think it'll be much.
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But it will matter for people trying
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to watch the 500 in Europe.
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It will matter for like international fans
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that wanna watch the 500
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that are just not gonna have the same options or ability to
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but F1 obviously doesn't care about
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what IndyCar's audience is, so it will,
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it will hurt European Indie car fans.
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Well not, and it won't hurt their ability to watch the race,
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but you just have to choose at some point.
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not a comparable fan base in viewing thing,
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but it's, it's hard to view this
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as anything other than trying to hurt IndyCar. It seems, it
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that IndyCar is on the rise.
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It has noticed that with Fox,
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our viewership is growing exponentially
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and um, it does seem like a direct shot
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at, at our biggest race.
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Now you're right Tim. Um, the,
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the ratings won't even be close.
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Indy Indy will win by a mile.
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that got into IndyCar off the back
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of getting into F1 off the back of Drive
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to Survive or whatever.
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Uh, it's ignorant to think
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that every race fan is just gonna defacto choose the 500
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over an F1 race if they're competing head to head.
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I don't think that's true. I think this does hurt IndyCar.
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I think this does hurt our viewership.
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Um, it hurts fans opportunity to go see both races.
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Like it's, it's just silly man.
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It's just silly.
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Nobody wins because yeah, the ratings
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for Montreal will be worse.
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They'll be decidedly worse.
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They'll have, they'll get a much bigger hit than ours will,
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Which is crazy to me
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because Liberty seems to be very focused on trying
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to build an American audience for F1
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and they've done a lot of smart moves to do that
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and they've been paying off very well
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over the last few years.
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So this just feels like such an unforced error.
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And maybe there's a part of the equation I'm not seeing, but
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Look, there always is, right?
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We don't know all the facts, but you're right.
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You look at the US races
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and their ratings for F1, they're double, they're two
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and a half, sometimes three x
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what the average F1 race gets when they are domestic.
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now you're not, and look, let's call a spade a spade,
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nine times outta 10 and F1 race is settled in the
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first five laps.
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Mm-hmm . Right? So whereas Indy, you're gonna want
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to stay right to the end.
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I could see some people just flipping over
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for the first five laps in Montreal
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and then flipping back over to the 500
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because race is usually pretty much done by then.
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Yeah. Short of some safety car,
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which certainly can happen in Montreal.
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But like the fact that I was, I was looking forward
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to being able to go to Montreal for
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Like, I'm sure yeah.
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You know, the only, the second time in almost 20 years,
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uh, there's just so many racing fans
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that would've taken that opportunity.
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It's been a clash with
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so many races in IndyCar over the years.
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Like it was a clash with Texas for like a decade
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and then it clashed with, I dunno something else.
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So we've not been able to go,
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I think there was one year we were able to go,
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I think it was maybe 2021.
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Um, and it was great
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and there was a lot of IndyCar fans
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that went that I know that were there.
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I was there, it was awesome. But you're right,
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it seems calculated, it seems intentional, which
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is a compliment to IndyCar at the end of the day.
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Yeah. They wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't a threat.
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I, I think, yeah, I think that's the, the only way to take
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that move without clarification as to what the reasoning is,
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which I haven't seen any.
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Um, I also haven't done a lot of digging into it.
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Again, not a big research show,
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but yeah, I think it's a loss for, um,
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I think it's a loss for IndyCar.
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I think it's a loss for F1.
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I think it's a loss for the fans of both series.
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And the only positive in it is that it's, I, again, I see it
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as a compliment from the IndyCar side that that F1 wants
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to try to slow down the momentum of the 500.
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It ain't gonna work, you know, it's not gonna work.
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But, um, even if it affects the rating a tiny bit,
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it's not gonna work for what the overall momentum
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of, of the sport is at the moment.
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So, um, it's a bummer, Tim. It's a bummer.
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So the, the one thing
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that was said about why this might be the case is
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to keep Miami and Montreal back to back
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for I guess quote unquote sustainability reasons
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or something, which makes sense.
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If they were back to back weeks, they're back to back races,
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but there's like two weeks between them.
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Mm-hmm. So everybody's gonna leave North America
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and then they're gonna come back to North America. I,
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It's also weird to me because you're at a point now
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where McLaren has an F1
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and IndyCar team by this point, Andretti will have,
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or Cadillac will have, you know, Andrea have Cadillac and F1
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and, and, and, and IndyCar team Prema will have what?
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F two in, in IndyCar.
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Like there's enough overlap now Myers on the board of
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of Liberty has Meyer Shank racing.
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Like it just, it's odd.
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It just like, I understood when Monaco was on the same day
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because they had that date for however many years.
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Not nearly as many as the Indy 500 as
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that Memorial Day weekend.
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I, I got that right.
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There was history there,
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but I I, it's just, it didn't make sense.
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Okay. You, you, there's so much overlap now.
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Why would you move Monaco only
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to put something else on that date?
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It makes no sense. It makes
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No sense.
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I mean, I know we're not ever gonna go back to the days
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of F1 drivers coming over
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and doing the 500, um, as much fun as I think that would be,
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but I don't know, was there anything else on
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the calendar that surprised you?
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Again, I, I just, I'm looking at it
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and just, I'm getting increasingly more annoyed
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because if the whole point is to have Miami
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and Canada on the same stretch, right?
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Mm-hmm . You can move Canada a week sooner
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and if anything it makes more sense from a sustainability
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point and not maybe people would actually
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stay in North America. It just, you know, it's just,
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And still you're still kind of messing with IndyCar then
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'cause you're hitting qualifying
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where you will actually probably pull some of the viewers.
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Yeah, that's, that's true. Like that's if you're trying
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to choose between an F1 race
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and indie qualifying, I'm,
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I'll take qualifying 10 days outta 10. But I was,
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I was gonna say if you're, if you're trying to choose
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between that you've never watched any 500 qualifying
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because that's arguably more exciting and stressful
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and cool than a race than any other race
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and actually the most tense weekend of the entire year.
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But yes, look, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna ask F1
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to like build their calendar
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around our one hallmark event here,
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but at the same time, yeah,
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put it on qualifying weekend finite.
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At least that's somewhat defendable.
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You know, I can tell you
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what day the 85 hundred's gonna be on in 2047.
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Mm-hmm . That's, that's how this works.
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You have a gap to put a race not on the biggest race
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of the year in the world.
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Yeah. And you chose not to do it.
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So again, if, if their argument is to be back to back
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with Miami wrong, you did it wrong.
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That's not, that's not good enough.
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If there's another reason, cool.
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Again, there's always more to do with this story,
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but I don't like that they're not sharing what that is
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unless it is just a middle fingered IndyCar,
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which would be unfortunate.
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And you know, I think it's,
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I think it's gonna hurt them more than it's gonna hurt us.
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So vie um,
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You mean it's gonna hurt us more than it's gonna hurt us
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since you're split allegiance
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Stop it.
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Um, obviously F one's got a new track coming on the
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calendar in Madrid.
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So the second race in Spain, um,
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which is in September, which should be pretty cool.
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I always like seeing new venues come on.
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Uh, Z v's back on a rotational basis, which is good.
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I like that event. And
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otherwise what's, there's two triple headers next year
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and they both, they're the last six races of the year,
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which was the case two years ago
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or last year, sorry, not this year.
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Um, which is a bummer
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because I usually work all those in triple headers.
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We top this year of them broken up.
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Yeah, I remember after your first triple header you'd be
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like, oh that was, that was a thing that was, yeah, ,
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which is a real thing, which is crazy to me.
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It kind of speaks to uh,
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what like Buxton's point about like he can commute from
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England and this is still less difficult than
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Considerably less travel.
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Yeah. Speaking of which we gotta have,
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we gotta have the Fox booth back on.
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I think that'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah.
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We're gonna do that.
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We're definitely gonna make that happen.
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I don't know, it's, it's hard 'cause it just sucks.
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Like it's, you know, everything in Motorsport has seemed
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to be going really well for IndyCar
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and F1, like obviously F one's had this massive
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jump from drive to survive,
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but IndyCar with the Fox, the momentum
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and just like, uh, you know what, what, what are we doing?
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What happened to rising tide lifts all ships.
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I'm trying really hard to not just be like the grumpy old
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guy in this and, and only look at the negatives.
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But the problem is, is I just,
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I I don't see the other side of it, right?
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Like what I positive to do see positive. Yeah.
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What I try to do in these situations,
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like I have my emotional response, right,
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which is usually whatever and then I try to like sit back
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and be like, okay, let's look at this from the other side.
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Why, why did, how did, could we have got here thinking
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with the shoe on the other foot?
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And I just don't, I don't see it,
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I don't see why this makes sense for, for anybody,
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but uh, it is what it is. Um,
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Obviously I I'll be going to Montreal next year.
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Thank God . I did tired.
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It's actually alright look, I'm gonna admit it.
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You found it, you found the bond there. I pushed, yeah.
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I pushed for it to be this weekend just so
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that way we could force Tim to go somewhere else.
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You know, for editorial purposes
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we need you to go get some stories.
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Alex is gonna be busy. I'm gonna be busy on the 500 stuff.
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We need you to cover the F1 stuff
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'cause we're not gonna be able to watch it.
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Okay. I, let me know if we're not allowed
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to talk about this, but this just popped up in my head now.
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I'm curious, I know that with Toronto there are issues with
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some members of teams not being allowed in Canada
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because
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Are we allowed to talk about
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That?
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Yeah, it's, yeah it's fine
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Because you know, Canada's pretty strict.
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Uh, if you have anything on your record, particularly DUIs
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and things like that, um, does F1 have a similar issue?
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That is a great question, man. That is a great question.
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because they go to some places where
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considerably more strict than Canada.
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Yeah, so that's a very good question.
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I'm not sure, I'll have to, lemme do some
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digging , lemme do some digging on that.
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Or do they just have like some kind
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of diplomatic community thing
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because it's F1 and they can just, that
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One they can
Wave the wand
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and everyone just goes in, in isolation in a little pocket.
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I feel like if there was a wand that could be waived
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for Canadian immigration, John Green would've figured it out
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and we know that he hasn't .
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Yeah, that's true. I feel like we still need
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to make a call to somebody in Canada about that .
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Um, you are, you are the
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Guy I would call you are the call I would make.
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Yeah. When I said we that was like the race car driver. We
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Got it. Got it. Yeah.
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We just we're bad at saying I
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so we just always default to we.
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Um, no, I've definitely heard of a story where a member
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of the F1 paddock was not allowed to go
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to a certain country.
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Um, it was
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for a much more dramatic offense than a DUI love it and
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Gonna have to tell me about this offline.
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Yeah, I super am not gonna say this, say this on,
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on the air, but like for, for the more sort
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of casual misdemeanors
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and mild felonies,
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is there anywhere that Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know because the thing about F1 two though,
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remember is like a lot
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of the positions on teams have multiple people
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and they rotate through, right?
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It's like your core group of staff.
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Like, I mean obviously the driver race engineer strategist,
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like the key engineering people.
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Um, but I feel like even on the mechanic side,
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there's probably a few people that rotate that can,
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and you might do like 20 of the 24 races,
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but you have a couple off or something like that.
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So there might be some strategery around who goes
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to which races and,
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and who skips certain ones for issues like that.
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I don't know. Um, yeah,
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Well let us know what you think online, you know,
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tweet us, uh, Instagram us don't DM us.
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I'm so bad at reading those. James can attest.
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I have like 200 unread texts.
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I'm not gonna check the, it gets me so
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Upset, man. It gets me so
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Upset.
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Um, but you know, tweet us, that kind of thing
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And uh, just make sure you tune into the Indy 500 next
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year, Memorial Day weekend on Fox.
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When is it's Memorial Day weekend?
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Is that new?
No, no.
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It's actually something that's fairly well established, Tim.
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And it's gonna continue being then until the dawn of time
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end of time. But yeah, sure.
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Sorry to the dusk of time. It's
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Gonna go all the way back
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Let me, yes, we're gonna go a full cycle.
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We go through time and then through the dark ages
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and then back to the start of time again
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and we'll still be running 8,500 on Memorial Day.
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It's the Futurama style of of time passage.
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If you're familiar with that episode,
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Nobody is familiar with that episode.
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That wasn't for you. That's where like the two people
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who are gonna be like, holy Futurama reference.
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I like how you just swore on an
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episode where we said, I noticed it.
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No swearing for your own editing. I noticed
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it . Good luck with that
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one.
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