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This is, is off track.
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Remember how James is ing off in The Bahamas on Tuesday?
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Yeah. Okay. So we're recording a little late on Monday.
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And, and James is, uh, is late.
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Yeah. Late. Just late or Tuesday.
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All, all of our things are scheduled around James,
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it would seem, I spent all day with James for his charity .
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Um, and it's now eight 20 on a Tuesday.
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Uh, I just came from the IMS museum,
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which if you have not been yet,
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I didn't actually, I was in and out.
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I just had to do a quick little thingy, Bob.
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Um, and I didn't see it all,
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but the glimpses that I saw it is,
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wow. It is. How we going?
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I was supposed to go with somebody. We're just
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Going, eh? Oh yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, when you're 21 minutes late. Yeah,
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I'm six minutes late and it's
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because my laptop was not in the room
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it was supposed to be in.
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Thank you very much. Mm-hmm.
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Anyways. Sounds
Like excuses 'cause not our museum.
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Museum is very cool. Very,
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Very cool.
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I was, uh, I was supposed to go see the museum last time I
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was in indie, but, uh, someone bailed on me.
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Oh, who? Doug? You. It was Easter
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weekend.
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You was gonna say, who was he talking about?
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I, Alex was gonna take Hazel and I at the museum Friday.
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I was gonna see Hazel and you to the museum on a very, um,
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not, uh, public situation.
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And it was Easter weekend.
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So, okay, let's start off,
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because we heard all about the 4 29 golf outing from Deep U
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on the Tuesday episode. How did it go?
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What was that? I wasn't there. So what happened in the
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episode?
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Well, you invited Deep U on the show
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and then also didn't show up for that .
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I don't see a problem with this.
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This, this show is a group effort
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and you guys also both know Depu and so it's,
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No, it was a great episode and it was better
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without you, if I'm being honest. Uh,
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Yes.
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No, I, I have not yet listened.
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But I actually had several people, uh,
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during our golf outing today mention
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that they heard the episode
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and that they, they were very,
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they were thoroughly entertained by, uh,
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depo's performance on the show.
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So I'm going to listen back to it
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because I can't miss that. It sounds just
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Terrific.
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Um, you know what though? You missed Tuesday.
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You were late on this one. Your picture's going down .
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Cool. Your picture was never up in mine. .
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So not really offended by that. Um, do
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Actually, actually have a picture of him.
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We've been over this. He's got pictures of all of us.
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No, no, no, no. I know that.
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Do you actually have a picture of Tim though,
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Like in general
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That you would, a printed one that you could display?
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Oh, I don't have a printed one.
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No, I don't have a printed picture of like,
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pretty much anybody
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but Becky, to be fair, I don't really print a lot of photos.
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I got the frames for this then printed the photos.
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Yeah. Yeah. I also feel like as a parent
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you just inherently print more photos.
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That's like a more regular part of your It's true.
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Yeah. No, I have, I've got printer paper on,
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uh, like photo printer
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Paper on deck.
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So, so, but why just to display them?
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Because like, it's not
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as though you need a photo album in this day and age. Uh,
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Yeah, no, it's for frames. One
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To display them and then two, you'd be surprised
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how often you need those for school projects.
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Mm-hmm. Because it just isn't the same when you
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print it on regular paper.
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Right. Um, right. Okay. So golf outing went well.
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Did you guys, I don't know, raise blood or whatever?
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Yeah, we raised a lot of blood.
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That's, uh, that was the goal of the day.
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No, the, the, yeah, the outing was great.
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Alex, I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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We were in different, uh, groups, foursomes,
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so we did not get to, uh, interact a ton.
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It was a cloudy day that turned into a rainy day.
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We had a delayed start, which then turned into like,
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what, five holes in.
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We had like a pause for, we had a red flag for rain, uh,
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further, you know, further making me dislike golf.
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'cause red flags should only happen in racing.
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Um, but it was good. I thought it was good.
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I thought it was a great turnout.
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I thought it was a decent amount of fun
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as someone who's done like one of these things ever.
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Uh, Alex, I'd be curious to know what you thought of, of the
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Day.
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Well, I've done exactly one of these things ever.
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Um, so you took my golf out in virginity. Uh, so congrats.
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I thought it was fantastic. I don't know.
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I don't, I mean, I don't know. I'm the wrong guy to ask.
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I thought it was great. I don't know what they're supposed
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to be like though, so. Well, no,
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I was just asking if you had a good time.
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I didn't. I I was not happy in the beginning.
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Like, I don't, I don't like golf enough
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or am good enough at golf, uh, to want to play soaking wet.
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No. In life. Absolutely.
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No.
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But then the sun came out
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and it was a, ended up being a pretty nice day
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and then I was enjoying it more.
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Um, so yeah, no, I think,
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I think it was organized incredibly well.
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I thought the e everyone had every amenity and,
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and I thought that was the right amount of people.
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Like no one was really waiting on anyone.
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It went by quickly considering we had rain delays.
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Ten five stars, 10 outta 10 no notes.
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You can't control the weather. It's not your fault.
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We were making jokes though,
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like at the beginning of the day.
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It was like <inaudible>. It would've been really nice if
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Rick Meers could have led 428 laps
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And only 1 28 to
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Yesterday was, yesterday was beautiful.
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And, uh, today was not that.
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But, uh, no, you, congratulations. Great work.
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Um, obviously for a cause very close to your heart,
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which we already talked about a lot of why
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that is on Tuesday.
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And um, yeah. Bravo, James.
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I can't wait for next year, dude.
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Uh, you better not invite more people
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though 'cause that was enough for me. No,
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That's like the thing is it, there's the reason it's, oh,
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it doesn't say invitational on the hat,
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but it is called the 4 29 Invitational.
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It's an invitational event and we are not gonna expand it
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because even though we could make more money
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for the charity, which ultimately is the goal,
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we want people to want to come back or else it kind
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Of defeats the purpose.
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Yeah. We have less fun. So that's also the goal.
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There's a balance. There's a fun thing. If we could do
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Raising balance, if we could do it though, like, I mean,
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we really need to talk to Indy car
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because having it on the Tuesday
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of a race week is not awesome.
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Okay. Well for the drivers
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That weekend, as in this weekend when we're racing in
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Barber is never a race weekend. This
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Is Rev weekend, right?
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It's usually, it's usually our derby Rev
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double weekend. Yeah.
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Correct. So, so this I hope was an anomaly that we can,
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we can rectify this issue
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and next year it won't be a, a problem
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and we can have more drivers come and have a great time.
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Um, and I do also wanna
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shout out, well, I gotta shout out Steven Bischoff
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because he did a lot of planning.
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Okay, cool. Um, the, uh,
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we had a bunch of good, great partners.
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Firestone was one.
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Andy Racing experience was one which were very,
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uh, relevant to what we're doing here.
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Juice, head juice, head juice heads. Mm-hmm .
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Juice, head,
Head, uh, big supporter.
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Thanks for that. Um, so yes,
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I think, I think everyone was very, like, the amount
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of comments that I got, they were like, dang, halfway
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through to have like a vape station was legit.
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It was like just free, free, like everything,
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whether it was hangover, like all sorts of stuff.
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Hangover like, uh, liquids or whether it was your, um,
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Although I've gotta pouches
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by b one.com is still where
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to get your hangover stuff. But that's you, your
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Nicotine pouches, your vapes, your new tropics, everything
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that you could want they had in their tent
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and they were offering it for, uh, for
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Customer.
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For frizzy, yeah. For a five figure discount.
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Like, I, I'll be honest,
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I I had seen the sticker on your helmet.
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I knew they were a partner.
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I honestly had no idea what they did.
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And I rocked up to that thing and was floored.
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And like, I feel like I, I dunno, I'm not gonna name names,
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but like, someone on my team walked
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up and was like, oh my God.
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And grabbed like four things and threw 'em on the
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counter as if like, how much?
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And they're like, no, no, no.
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Like these are all saying like,
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you can just take all these, he was like,
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what? He was so blown away.
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But in a way more British accent.
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definitely not gonna mention who on the team?
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Oh, I guess nobody knows who was on my team.
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Well, maybe they do. 'cause I'm sure he knows about it.
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He tweeted about it. He tweeted
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About it.
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All right. Anyway, yes, you can deduce who it was,
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but somebody, somebody was very excited about the vapes
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and, uh, stuff and all sorts of things.
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We'll keep his, we'll keep his identity anonymous.
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It will be, no, there's too many of that.
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It's w Buxton, right?
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It starts with a w and ends with Ill buxton Anyway, um,
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sorry Tim, what were you gonna say? I
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Know I don't really, uh, partake in vapes
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or anything like that, or smoke or even play golf,
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but, um, my FOMO is kicking in.
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Can I get, uh, can you guys add like one
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on the invitational for next year?
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Oh, here we go. Here we go.
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She wants more free products. I, you know,
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I'll learn how to play golf.
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I'll buy a ticket I'd, I'll learn how
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to play golf in the next
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Year.
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Um, here's the thing, it, everybody that was, uh, agreed
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and signed up for year one does have the first
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rider refusal for year two. So you need
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Yeah.
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But like, I saw some people that were there.
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You guys don't need them. I,
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I have a list of people you can cut.
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Yeah. But so, but they were there.
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No, no. But like did
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Again, I'll cut that, but
Just bleep it out.
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Uh, yeah, we do because he showed up.
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So if you wanna talk,
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just if you wanna talk somebody into not coming, um, oh God.
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That would be on you. Um, but yes, I'm excited.
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Um, next year we already have great ideas.
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This one started kind of planning pretty late.
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And I will say that the only person
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that has worse FOMO than you was Scott McLaughlin,
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who really wanted to be there as a big golfer.
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Um, but he was
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Becoming a US
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a lot, but the thing, yeah.
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And he also had like an appearance
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and he had sort, he had stuff going on, but, uh, yeah.
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Um, Alex, how did you play? As
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Long as I wasn't on a tee box pretty well. Yeah,
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Dude, that's hard.
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I don't know how to do that very well.
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I still don't. I still don't. Yeah.
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Like I've, I, I've gotten to the point where I can, like,
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before I couldn't even hit, I,
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I could not hit the ball with the dryer.
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It would go three feet. Yeah.
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Now I can hit the out of it,
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but I cannot control where it goes.
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Right. I, at all, it's really, really bad.
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Um, anything 170 yards in. All
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Right.
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Yeah, dude, seven iron.
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I can play seven iron from a buck 20 to a buck 70.
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That's just my club for that range.
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And I can get it roughly where I need to go
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and hit it pretty straight outside of that, I, I can, like,
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I'm, I'm good at chipping and I'm good at a seven iron.
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It's about my, it's about my, my maximum right now,
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which is not great for, for golf. I
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Mean, I'm, yeah, I'm right there with you.
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Yeah, I did, uh, I did Jake. I did break some.
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So one of the things I don't like about golf
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and there's many, is like all the rules and the etiquette
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and I always feel like I'm doing
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something wrong on the golf course.
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Right. And one of 'em is obviously you don't talk
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during somebody's the game. What's that?
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So like the game, like the rules
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and the etiquette, the game,
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The etiquette, like the rules of the game is one thing,
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but like the, and like in the country clubs you have
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to have tucked in shirts and colored things
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and you know, wing tip shoes
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and I don't know, there's all sorts of dumb rules.
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Anyway, talking on someone's backswing is a big no-no.
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So as I was driving by the very first tee box
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and Alex was teeing up right in the middle
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of the back s swing, just screamed four as loud as I could.
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And man, that ball did not go far, . It was great.
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It was so good. It was so good. Bobby and I,
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And look, Alex looks over it. He looks fine.
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Yeah, no, he definitely, definitely seems like,
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definitely seems like he's over it.
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Um, so, so one of the, one
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of the guys on my team was Rob Wickens.
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And, uh, article, uh, we tracked down the only, um,
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like cart for paraplegics in, uh, Indiana, I think.
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And had it dropped off and like,
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I'd seen Robbie play on these things online or whatever.
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Dude, it's, it's super cool.
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Like, like I've seen him do it on Instagram,
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but like he's like, he can,
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he can whack the ball pretty good.
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Like it's pretty impressive how to do it.
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And he has to do it left-handed,
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which he was not left-handed before.
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He's not naturally a left-handed guy. And it was very cool.
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So props to Zionsville Golf course who lent us, uh, his, uh,
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cart because that was awesome
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and that he got to come and play.
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Um, the trophies were pretty badass.
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You didn't stay for the trophy part, you had to go.
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I did have to go, yes.
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Yeah. Um, the, the custom bourbon bottles with
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the tournament logo
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and then all gas, no breaks written on the side
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and etched into the bottle was pretty fun.
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Mm-hmm . And then the, uh, the trophies that were made by
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Tom from Cold Hard Art, who is friend of the show,
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um, were awesome.
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And he did those like super short time.
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So that was greatly appreciated. Yeah.
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Look, it was a great event, man.
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And we raised a bunch of money and I'm really excited.
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Um, so yeah, can't wait
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to do it again next year.
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Hopefully in better weather, hopefully on a weekend
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or a weekday that doesn't clash so closely to a race weekend
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and we don't have to deal with that stuff.
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Got it,
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Got it.
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Good. All right. Um, well done, James. Last week.
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Cars were on track at IMS, which is, uh,
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a very welcome site and sound, I think for everyone.
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Uh, so we talked last week about how
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it was gonna be a pretty unique test
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because for the first time, like ever outside of Fast Friday
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and very specific manufacture tests, we were getting
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the qualifying boost, um, before the month of May.
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So kind of getting somewhat of a preview of, of what's
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to come along with another day
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and a half of testing, which has your normal kind
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of guys, you know, starting off trying to do some, you know,
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SS single car stuff to, to try
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and get a understanding of what this their current car
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for the year is gonna do by itself.
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And, you know, building the confidence
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to start getting into groups.
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And the groups start very small
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and then by the end
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of day two it's like a mini practice race
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and, and that sort of thing.
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So, um, I, I wanna first start off
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by saying I was pleasantly surprised with the speeds.
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Um, I was really expecting the cars
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to be a good chunk slower, um, with the hybrid, not
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because of the weight, um, just
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because of the, the parasitic drag
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that exists in the gearbox.
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'cause the power is having to go through another
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essentially input shaft
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and, you know, it's, it's more moving parts
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that is pulling power from the crankshaft to the wheels.
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And that being said, um, the, the fastest no
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to speed of, of the, the two days was Kuma
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and it was a 2 3, 2 7.
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Um, which I'm sure that wasn't even all of the juice
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and everything that either Raha had or Honda had.
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So I think it's gonna be just as quick dude,
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It's not like, dear God, it's like a real shame
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that he bought that thing up
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because that is an insanely fast no to time.
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Yes. For, I mean, that was like, it wasn't a,
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it wasn't a four lap run
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or anything, so I don't think what the fall off would've
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been, but like, God, that's a big lap for that, that stage.
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Um, okay, so pleasantly surprise, the speeds.
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Yeah. To, to everyone.
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Um, the, the balance
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and the feel of the car is a different conversation is kind
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of exactly what we all expected,
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but in terms of the actual just pure speed,
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which is very important in my mind for the fan experience
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and for the people that aren't qualifying weekend,
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you do not expect anything less than potentially still,
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you know, being the fastest field in Indy 500 history.
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So that's really, really cool.
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Talking about the, so, you know,
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talking about the race side, um, you know,
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we obviously had some conversations about the, the concerns
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of the extra weight and whatever in race trim.
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Um, we had a very fortuitous two days in
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that it, it was probably the most representative, uh,
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conditions that we've seen
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at the open test maybe ever, in terms of
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what it's gonna be like
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or what it usually is like during practice week
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before, uh, qualifying weekend.
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So given that it wasn't like super, you know, cool
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with nice cool track temps
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and whatever, I thought the racing quote unquote,
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when guys were kind of mixing it up in a group didn't look
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too dissimilar from what we've seen the last, you know,
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basically since the arrow screen.
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So from your seat, how different was it
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in traffic when you're, it looked like, you know, first
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and second could still swap from third back.
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It was harder and you know,
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from fifth back it was impossible, but that's not new.
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So in that scenario, how different was it
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compared to the last couple years
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On paper?
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What you're saying, uh, is no different, um,
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what you're having to do when, when was the last time,
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I know this was both during Qims, so take it with a grain
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of salt, but when was the last time in a test you saw two
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cars write, write themselves off?
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Um, yeah, it's been a minute, right?
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It's been like the manufacture Kid air
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was probably the last time I saw that. Right.
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Long time. Um,
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and the reason for that is what you're having to do now
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because again, the, the biggest
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ever since the arrow screen you, you nailed it.
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Um, the, the car
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and the components that exist in the Speedway configuration,
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IE the front wing, the Speedway Tire, um,
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a couple other things are overloaded and overworked
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and they are not robust enough
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to handle the amount of weight that is on the car.
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I, I don't care about location at this point.
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I don't care about CAG, I don't care about anything.
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All I care about is just pure mass.
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Um, and as you know, James, like the, the,
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the changes in the way that you had to approach the setup
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was all towards kind
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of reducing this exit under steering traffic
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and just the only reason you couldn't run close was
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'cause just the front would give up
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and there was just nothing you could do.
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Like, you'd feel fine and you'd have the run
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and then the front would just take off up the track.
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You have to lift not the crash.
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Well, as the years have progressed with the Arrow screen,
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like teams have, like, you just are accepting
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that you just have to get more and more and more aggressive
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and way more free
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and neutral to just be able to have a chance to be close
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to the cars in front of you.
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So 2025 hybrid, I don't care where it's placed, I don't care
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what it's doing to the weight distribution,
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it is just more weight on the car, which these components,
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which have been unchanged, can't tolerate.
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So the only way around it is you just have to get
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so aggressive with how you're setting the car up.
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And it's, it's just, it's a, it's, it's a piece of like,
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it doesn't feel nice to drive anymore.
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It's a handful. Like I, my, I had some
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of the best teachers ever when I came over
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to IndyCar in 2016 from an oval standpoint,
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and that was Brian Herda, Michael Andretti, Ryan Hunter,
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Ray, Marco, Carlos Munoz, like guys
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that were hooked up, right?
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And everything that they taught me in the beginning was,
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you know, when the rear of the car starts to move,
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when you start to have moments like you need to pit
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and change something because you'll always catch it once.
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It's the second, it's the second catch
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you're not gonna get Right.
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And has stuck with me forever on all ovals, not just indie
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and like, it's benefited me pretty well,
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I think throughout my oval career.
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Now that doesn't exist.
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Like you have to just drive through snaps. Yeah.
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And you just have to drive through a super neutral,
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like weird feeling in the middle of the corner
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and just live with it.
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And that's, it's, um, it's not enjoyable.
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It's like you're tense, it's frustrating.
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Um, but that's the only way that you're gonna follow cars.
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So to answer your question, no, but the guys behind and,
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and this is what sucks about motorsports, the effort
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that's being expended already in April, just
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to do practice group running is already at a level
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that I feel like you were at in the race last year.
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Like, you're just having to try so hard
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and take chances to get a run on someone
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and to stay in, in touch with someone that, you know,
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you were doing in a race situation last year
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00:20:51.525 --> 00:20:52.805
and you're doing in April this year.
502
00:20:52.905 --> 00:20:55.045
So I think the race is gonna be intense.
503
00:20:55.155 --> 00:20:56.205
It's gonna be, there's gonna
504
00:20:56.205 --> 00:20:57.285
be a lot of mistakes that happen.
505
00:20:57.505 --> 00:20:59.165
Um, but yeah, the only way
506
00:20:59.165 --> 00:21:02.205
that you're gonna survive 2, 3, 4 cars back is just to
507
00:21:04.235 --> 00:21:06.765
pull yourself up by your bootstraps and hold on, and,
508
00:21:06.785 --> 00:21:08.525
and just suffer through it.
509
00:21:09.075 --> 00:21:10.075
Make it work.
510
00:21:13.515 --> 00:21:14.525
Dumb question on that.
511
00:21:15.065 --> 00:21:18.325
Um, if, if, if it's that much harder
512
00:21:18.325 --> 00:21:20.085
to just stay in the toe, does that mean there's gonna be
513
00:21:20.085 --> 00:21:23.485
like more discrepancy between the talent of drivers
514
00:21:23.745 --> 00:21:25.165
and make things more racy?
515
00:21:25.165 --> 00:21:27.045
Or is that just gonna make it that much harder to pass
516
00:21:27.105 --> 00:21:28.365
and make it more of a possession?
517
00:21:28.745 --> 00:21:30.525
No, because everyone is good at this point.
518
00:21:30.825 --> 00:21:34.285
So it's not like the talent separation is not,
519
00:21:34.465 --> 00:21:36.445
and like what you're gonna see is it's the same
520
00:21:36.445 --> 00:21:37.685
that we've had the past couple years.
521
00:21:37.785 --> 00:21:39.445
If a guy makes a mistake, you'll get a run.
522
00:21:39.465 --> 00:21:41.805
So it's gonna be who makes the least amount of mistakes
523
00:21:42.385 --> 00:21:44.645
and who has played the chess game, right?
524
00:21:44.705 --> 00:21:49.315
To be in the top two, two cars in the last eight laps.
525
00:21:49.315 --> 00:21:50.995
Like that's really all it comes down to.
526
00:21:51.335 --> 00:21:54.795
Um, so no, I don't think that it's gonna
527
00:21:55.305 --> 00:21:57.755
make a separation any bigger than what we've seen.
528
00:21:58.505 --> 00:22:02.595
It's funny, I I was rewatching last year's race a couple
529
00:22:02.595 --> 00:22:03.955
weeks ago, a month ago, whatever it was.
530
00:22:04.775 --> 00:22:07.635
And what you're describing,
531
00:22:08.075 --> 00:22:13.035
I think is beautifully kind of personified in, uh,
532
00:22:13.595 --> 00:22:15.795
a beautifully captured with paddles onboard
533
00:22:16.215 --> 00:22:18.755
of the last like 15, 20 laps.
534
00:22:19.055 --> 00:22:22.835
Mm. He was just having to drive that thing like
535
00:22:23.015 --> 00:22:24.035
so on the right rear
536
00:22:24.575 --> 00:22:27.075
and was just catching it four times a lap
537
00:22:27.135 --> 00:22:28.275
for the last 10 laps.
538
00:22:28.575 --> 00:22:33.235
And it looked awful. It looked, it's, it looked so unfun.
539
00:22:33.665 --> 00:22:36.075
Like you say, 10 tense is the best way to describe it
540
00:22:36.415 --> 00:22:39.835
to somebody because when your car's doing that, right,
541
00:22:40.495 --> 00:22:42.635
if your car's handling well, you're,
542
00:22:42.635 --> 00:22:43.875
you're turning into the corner.
543
00:22:44.175 --> 00:22:45.955
You, you've got confidence in the rear, right?
544
00:22:45.955 --> 00:22:49.395
As soon as it loads up the front's responsive, you're,
545
00:22:49.395 --> 00:22:51.835
you're, you're making, you know, minute corrections
546
00:22:51.835 --> 00:22:53.355
and adjustments the whole way through the corner.
547
00:22:53.735 --> 00:22:55.435
You're unwinding the wheel
548
00:22:55.455 --> 00:22:57.235
and driving the car off to the wall
549
00:22:57.495 --> 00:23:01.755
and everything feels very in control when it's doing that.
550
00:23:02.185 --> 00:23:05.435
Your grip on the wheel just gets so tight
551
00:23:06.135 --> 00:23:09.035
and you are like, you're hesitant with every move you do,
552
00:23:09.035 --> 00:23:10.355
you're almost fighting yourself.
553
00:23:10.455 --> 00:23:11.835
If you put a little more lock in,
554
00:23:11.835 --> 00:23:13.755
it's like you're left hand's almost like how much though?
555
00:23:13.755 --> 00:23:15.995
Like, let's not, you're pushing up with the right,
556
00:23:15.995 --> 00:23:17.755
but you're also kind of pushing up with the left
557
00:23:18.215 --> 00:23:20.435
and you're just waiting till you're at the wall to try
558
00:23:20.435 --> 00:23:23.315
to let yourself let your hands go and, and,
559
00:23:23.415 --> 00:23:24.715
and catch your breath and relax.
560
00:23:24.895 --> 00:23:28.515
And it is exhausting when you're doing that for, you know,
561
00:23:28.515 --> 00:23:30.635
over a hundred laps in a, in a place like this.
562
00:23:31.215 --> 00:23:35.595
Um, the, the thing I was really wondering was,
563
00:23:35.995 --> 00:23:39.195
I know we kind of talked about hybrid strategy
564
00:23:39.295 --> 00:23:40.435
for qualifying runs,
565
00:23:41.015 --> 00:23:45.765
but how did you know, how did you find the hybrid
566
00:23:45.985 --> 00:23:48.965
as a tool to use in traffic? Was it it
567
00:23:48.965 --> 00:23:50.525
Isn't on,
It's not, it's, it's
568
00:23:50.525 --> 00:23:51.645
Not a tool,
It's just not Okay.
569
00:23:51.765 --> 00:23:56.685
I I, I, most, the majority of the passes that I completed,
570
00:23:56.885 --> 00:23:58.765
I was passing cars while Ning,
571
00:23:59.445 --> 00:24:03.815
because the goal is, so you use the hybrid to like
572
00:24:04.405 --> 00:24:07.415
help finish the little last bit of suck up.
573
00:24:07.595 --> 00:24:10.255
And you have, you have the run already with the toe
574
00:24:10.595 --> 00:24:13.655
and you pop out and the run is so big with the toe anyways
575
00:24:13.655 --> 00:24:17.935
that you can regen because you're trying, it's, it's futile.
576
00:24:17.955 --> 00:24:19.775
But you're trying to do something to make sure
577
00:24:19.775 --> 00:24:22.295
that on the exit of two you have something.
578
00:24:23.225 --> 00:24:25.495
Right. Right. But so but only,
579
00:24:25.515 --> 00:24:28.255
but you're saying that you are using it to help that run
580
00:24:28.355 --> 00:24:29.815
and then once you pop out you've got
581
00:24:29.815 --> 00:24:30.855
enough momentum you can reach it.
582
00:24:31.195 --> 00:24:32.575
No, you're using, you can,
583
00:24:32.995 --> 00:24:34.335
you would get the run either way.
584
00:24:34.475 --> 00:24:36.935
The run's coming not because the hybrid is being deployed.
585
00:24:39.025 --> 00:24:40.025
It's
Not,
586
00:24:40.025 --> 00:24:41.515
But, but, but surely the run's better
587
00:24:41.665 --> 00:24:43.115
because you're deploying the hybrid.
588
00:24:43.825 --> 00:24:46.355
Like it's four seconds of 50 horsepower,
589
00:24:46.365 --> 00:24:47.515
60 horsepower, whatever.
590
00:24:47.515 --> 00:24:50.355
It's surely that's better than just a good runoff of
591
00:24:50.425 --> 00:24:51.425
Four.
592
00:24:51.425 --> 00:24:51.715
The cars also using
593
00:24:53.525 --> 00:24:54.525
Great point.
594
00:24:54.585 --> 00:24:56.555
Like it's no, it's not, it's not
595
00:24:57.545 --> 00:24:58.545
Okay.
596
00:24:58.545 --> 00:25:00.475
But if you catch a guy, let's say the guy used it
597
00:25:02.855 --> 00:25:03.995
on the back straight,
598
00:25:04.905 --> 00:25:06.275
They would have it by four.
599
00:25:06.705 --> 00:25:07.995
They would just regen by four.
600
00:25:08.185 --> 00:25:10.115
Well no, they would just regen themselves.
601
00:25:10.145 --> 00:25:11.475
Yeah. But like you can, that's like,
602
00:25:11.475 --> 00:25:13.595
you can get it done that quickly, right? Like if you're
603
00:25:13.595 --> 00:25:14.595
Oh yeah.
604
00:25:14.595 --> 00:25:18.075
You can go from zero to full from entry of one
605
00:25:18.095 --> 00:25:19.755
to the short shoot between.
606
00:25:19.755 --> 00:25:21.035
Yeah. I mean it's a corner.
607
00:25:21.905 --> 00:25:23.395
Well I think this is good though
608
00:25:23.495 --> 00:25:24.515
to talk about the testing.
609
00:25:24.835 --> 00:25:26.715
'cause this will come out on the first day of May.
610
00:25:27.055 --> 00:25:31.195
But before we go too far, there is racing this weekend too.
611
00:25:31.715 --> 00:25:32.835
I feel like we should maybe there
612
00:25:32.835 --> 00:25:33.835
Cover that one.
613
00:25:33.835 --> 00:25:37.675
There's one thing I wanted to say. Also, don't end our,
614
00:25:37.785 --> 00:25:41.795
it's may Tim don't end our Indy 500 chat.
615
00:25:41.795 --> 00:25:45.715
Yeah. For before talk Barbara for 20 minutes. Like can we,
616
00:25:46.035 --> 00:25:47.035
I have 20 minutes left.
617
00:25:47.625 --> 00:25:48.715
Okay. Two things.
618
00:25:49.315 --> 00:25:51.275
I was just trying to save people from having to listen
619
00:25:51.275 --> 00:25:54.715
to more really in-depth conversation on the hybrid and regen
620
00:25:54.735 --> 00:25:57.715
and if it's gonna help at the indie lab or not and all that.
621
00:25:57.855 --> 00:25:58.995
And two, I wasn't talking about
622
00:25:58.995 --> 00:26:00.315
Barbara, I was talking about my race.
623
00:26:00.865 --> 00:26:03.395
What race?
Doing the half marathon on Saturday.
624
00:26:03.455 --> 00:26:06.355
What's that?
Fair enough. All right. Back to Indy.
625
00:26:06.585 --> 00:26:09.355
Good. So you were, you were saying Alex,
626
00:26:09.915 --> 00:26:12.035
I was saying, uh, I was gonna say something
627
00:26:12.055 --> 00:26:14.635
and then Tim was such a, um,
628
00:26:15.745 --> 00:26:17.715
Okay, you keep thinking
I learned it from watching
629
00:26:17.715 --> 00:26:18.715
you
.
630
00:26:18.935 --> 00:26:20.995
You keep thinking on that in the meantime,
631
00:26:21.005 --> 00:26:22.355
while you're figuring that out.
632
00:26:22.855 --> 00:26:25.955
Tim, how's your half marathon training coming in? Oh
633
00:26:25.955 --> 00:26:26.995
No, I, I didn't actually wanna
634
00:26:26.995 --> 00:26:28.155
talk about it. I was talking about Barbara.
635
00:26:28.225 --> 00:26:30.715
Well, no, no. Now I, now I wanna know. I'm
636
00:26:30.715 --> 00:26:31.715
Still really slow. You
637
00:26:31.715 --> 00:26:33.435
Did a 12 mile run the other day.
638
00:26:33.745 --> 00:26:35.795
Yeah, it was terrible.
That's almost,
639
00:26:35.855 --> 00:26:37.035
you should have just kept going
640
00:26:37.095 --> 00:26:39.195
for another 1.1 miles then be like,
641
00:26:39.255 --> 00:26:40.435
now I don't have to do the mini,
642
00:26:40.815 --> 00:26:41.955
The 12 about did me in.
643
00:26:42.115 --> 00:26:44.805
'cause uh, we don't have have humidity out here in
644
00:26:44.945 --> 00:26:46.645
LA or not much of it.
645
00:26:46.825 --> 00:26:49.525
And I did that 12 miles back in Indianapolis when it was
646
00:26:49.525 --> 00:26:51.645
like 86% humidity. Didn't
647
00:26:51.645 --> 00:26:52.645
You do it in the rain?
648
00:26:52.645 --> 00:26:54.285
Rain thought it was gonna die. It was also a little rainy
649
00:26:54.285 --> 00:26:55.525
at first, but then the rain died.
650
00:26:55.545 --> 00:26:56.325
But was that just sweat
651
00:26:56.355 --> 00:26:57.485
when you sent that photo afterwards?
652
00:26:57.545 --> 00:26:59.405
It was a good amount of sweat. A lot of
653
00:26:59.405 --> 00:27:00.485
that was sweat. It looked
654
00:27:00.485 --> 00:27:01.725
Like you'd been through a hurricane.
655
00:27:02.025 --> 00:27:03.485
So how do you, all right tip.
656
00:27:03.545 --> 00:27:06.525
So like how do you, what what, what is your goal here?
657
00:27:07.185 --> 00:27:10.005
Finish.
And you don't have a time?
658
00:27:10.385 --> 00:27:12.725
No.
Do you have like a finish without having
659
00:27:12.725 --> 00:27:14.445
to walk at any time? Kind of goal? Yeah.
660
00:27:14.445 --> 00:27:15.805
No, I'm not gonna walk it.
Okay.
661
00:27:15.905 --> 00:27:17.165
No, not walk it. I'd like,
662
00:27:17.625 --> 00:27:21.385
I'd be happy like 10 to 11 minute miles.
663
00:27:22.365 --> 00:27:24.065
And what do you think, like
664
00:27:24.065 --> 00:27:25.665
what do you like what do you think you'll do?
665
00:27:25.975 --> 00:27:27.745
What do you mean? Oh, what do I actually think?
666
00:27:28.055 --> 00:27:29.665
Prob hopefully closer to 10
667
00:27:29.665 --> 00:27:31.305
and a half minutes than 11 minute miles.
668
00:27:32.445 --> 00:27:33.505
So that that,
669
00:27:33.815 --> 00:27:35.705
What,
What was your pace during your 12 miler?
670
00:27:36.525 --> 00:27:38.345
We don't need to go into that. We
671
00:27:38.345 --> 00:27:39.065
Do. It's important.
672
00:27:39.125 --> 00:27:41.225
It was really slow. It was really slow. How slow?
673
00:27:41.445 --> 00:27:42.585
Uh, I actually, I don't
674
00:27:42.585 --> 00:27:44.265
even remember, but I'm not gonna check. You
675
00:27:44.265 --> 00:27:45.265
Do remember.
676
00:27:45.585 --> 00:27:46.745
I don't, but I'm not gonna check.
677
00:27:47.425 --> 00:27:49.585
I remember, I remember you mentioning it
678
00:27:49.585 --> 00:27:51.145
and it was like in the 12 minute range.
679
00:27:51.605 --> 00:27:53.585
It was, it was pretty slow. It was pretty slow. Yeah.
680
00:27:53.815 --> 00:27:58.425
Okay. That's fine. Um, what is the thing that has
681
00:27:59.175 --> 00:28:03.465
hurt the most during the training for said half marathon?
682
00:28:04.215 --> 00:28:05.945
It's just boring. It just sucks.
683
00:28:05.945 --> 00:28:07.865
Being out there running every step just sucks.
684
00:28:08.565 --> 00:28:10.105
Oh, it's horrible. But like physically,
685
00:28:10.185 --> 00:28:11.825
I haven't had like, shit splint or any,
686
00:28:12.165 --> 00:28:14.345
And my knees started to finally hurt this last weekend,
687
00:28:14.405 --> 00:28:16.065
but I got those like neat things
688
00:28:16.065 --> 00:28:17.705
that wrap up and that seemed to help.
689
00:28:18.945 --> 00:28:20.385
I regret starting this topic. It's a break.
690
00:28:20.585 --> 00:28:22.105
I was joking. I wanted to just talk about
691
00:28:22.105 --> 00:28:23.105
Barber
.
692
00:28:23.375 --> 00:28:24.465
What do you wanna talk about Barber?
693
00:28:25.345 --> 00:28:26.465
I mean, we're going into it.
694
00:28:26.465 --> 00:28:27.905
It's gonna be, you know, any preview.
695
00:28:28.165 --> 00:28:30.305
How are you feeling with a new team going to attract
696
00:28:30.305 --> 00:28:31.305
that you love so much?
697
00:28:31.535 --> 00:28:33.025
Someone gonna, someone said how
698
00:28:33.205 --> 00:28:35.945
of the broadcast is going center around Georgina.
699
00:28:36.165 --> 00:28:37.225
You know, the questions that
700
00:28:37.225 --> 00:28:38.905
too much people wanna know too much. Way too much.
701
00:28:39.005 --> 00:28:40.825
Too much. They're already, they're already like previewing
702
00:28:40.825 --> 00:28:42.025
it every single day.
703
00:28:42.805 --> 00:28:45.385
Um, all right, well here we go guys.
704
00:28:45.565 --> 00:28:49.505
Uh, we're going to Barber, uh, we did test there, uh, two.
705
00:28:50.065 --> 00:28:51.865
I mean how long ago was St. Pete at this point?
706
00:28:52.045 --> 00:28:54.145
Two months ago? Um,
707
00:28:55.925 --> 00:29:00.025
and ECR R'S been strong at Barber historically.
708
00:29:00.405 --> 00:29:03.145
Um, and we were pretty good at the test.
709
00:29:03.525 --> 00:29:07.785
So I feel like none of that matters because it's IndyCar
710
00:29:07.885 --> 00:29:09.265
and it's probably a different tire.
711
00:29:10.005 --> 00:29:13.905
But, uh, yeah, I think that we are, listen,
712
00:29:14.655 --> 00:29:16.425
I've talked about it on the show.
713
00:29:16.765 --> 00:29:18.305
We knew street courses were gonna be hard.
714
00:29:18.365 --> 00:29:20.865
We knew the road courses were gonna be pretty decent for us.
715
00:29:21.195 --> 00:29:22.945
We're very excited about this stretch
716
00:29:22.945 --> 00:29:26.265
of the calendar being Barbara, indie GP and the 500.
717
00:29:26.295 --> 00:29:28.545
Yeah, so this is the first one of three
718
00:29:28.545 --> 00:29:30.305
where we think we can be really good
719
00:29:30.605 --> 00:29:33.065
and it's nice that we have the test, so we're kind
720
00:29:33.065 --> 00:29:35.785
of gonna be able to just get straight down to business
721
00:29:35.845 --> 00:29:37.585
and we've got most of our questions answered.
722
00:29:37.725 --> 00:29:39.145
So that'll be, that'll be nice.
723
00:29:39.545 --> 00:29:41.685
I feel like, I feel like statistically speaking,
724
00:29:41.745 --> 00:29:44.725
the three best tracks for ECR are barber,
725
00:29:45.335 --> 00:29:46.565
indie, GP and the 500.
726
00:29:46.795 --> 00:29:47.965
Without a doubt.
Yeah.
727
00:29:48.105 --> 00:29:51.725
So is it like, awesome to have them all back to back to back
728
00:29:51.725 --> 00:29:53.805
and hopefully just get on a really awesome momentum run?
729
00:29:53.865 --> 00:29:54.965
Or do you kind of wish they were
730
00:29:54.965 --> 00:29:56.005
a little bit more sprinkled?
731
00:29:56.145 --> 00:29:59.285
Not saying that you won't find pace other places, right,
732
00:29:59.345 --> 00:30:00.485
but like knowing
733
00:30:00.515 --> 00:30:03.965
that those three are like your really good odds going
734
00:30:03.965 --> 00:30:04.485
In. Yeah.
735
00:30:05.295 --> 00:30:08.125
Would you rather do a little over the season
736
00:30:08.145 --> 00:30:10.325
or you're just like, bam, let's all, let's hit 'em all
737
00:30:10.325 --> 00:30:11.325
and just try to keep it rolling?
738
00:30:12.445 --> 00:30:14.125
I don't know. Hadn't thought about, I don't know.
739
00:30:14.245 --> 00:30:15.365
I hadn't thought about other options.
740
00:30:15.945 --> 00:30:18.645
Um, I'm just gonna, I'm not gonna think about that.
741
00:30:18.785 --> 00:30:20.205
It doesn't matter. I can't control it.
742
00:30:20.265 --> 00:30:22.125
I'm just gonna ride the momentum wave
743
00:30:22.505 --> 00:30:25.365
and let's see how far it can take us, you know?
744
00:30:26.165 --> 00:30:27.885
I love it. Mm-hmm. I love that For you.
745
00:30:28.465 --> 00:30:29.645
Um, does the fact
746
00:30:29.645 --> 00:30:32.645
that you hate Barbara temper the team's expectations
747
00:30:32.745 --> 00:30:33.805
at all going into the
748
00:30:34.555 --> 00:30:35.805
Weekend's? That boost to mean
749
00:30:36.465 --> 00:30:38.045
We just know it's not your favorite place.
750
00:30:38.595 --> 00:30:40.285
I've been on the front row of Barber James.
751
00:30:40.765 --> 00:30:41.925
I I can go fast at Barber.
752
00:30:42.325 --> 00:30:43.485
I didn't say you couldn't go fast.
753
00:30:43.555 --> 00:30:46.125
There's enjoy doing it, but I can do it. I
754
00:30:46.125 --> 00:30:47.205
Didn't say you couldn't do it.
755
00:30:47.385 --> 00:30:49.525
It was purely a, an enjoyment factor.
756
00:30:50.105 --> 00:30:51.725
No, it's funny 'cause like I think I've,
757
00:30:51.805 --> 00:30:53.245
I think I have qualified there.
758
00:30:53.385 --> 00:30:56.725
I'm not, I think this is my qualifying record of Barbara
759
00:30:57.465 --> 00:30:58.805
second eighth
760
00:30:59.185 --> 00:31:03.445
and then like 18th 21st, 21st 23rd,
761
00:31:03.465 --> 00:31:05.645
23rd, 25th, 25th.
762
00:31:06.505 --> 00:31:08.445
So like, yeah, I see what you're saying.
763
00:31:08.705 --> 00:31:11.565
Um, hopefully it's, it's single digits.
764
00:31:11.885 --> 00:31:14.485
'cause like Yeah, that'd be, that'd be nice.
765
00:31:15.075 --> 00:31:17.125
It's easier what it single ditches good.
766
00:31:17.125 --> 00:31:18.245
Unless you willpower
767
00:31:18.425 --> 00:31:22.885
and then you just magically turn 17th place qualifying into
768
00:31:22.885 --> 00:31:24.365
the top fives every weekend, but whatever.
769
00:31:24.865 --> 00:31:28.325
Or, or you just win, which he's done a fair amount there.
770
00:31:28.395 --> 00:31:31.045
Yeah. Um, or you just Scott Dixon
771
00:31:31.045 --> 00:31:33.765
and you just come second, which is also a good day
772
00:31:33.945 --> 00:31:34.965
In perpetuity. Yeah.
773
00:31:35.185 --> 00:31:37.605
Uh, yeah. I wonder if, yeah, I wonder if he can do it.
774
00:31:37.705 --> 00:31:38.885
Um, yeah. Alright.
775
00:31:39.105 --> 00:31:40.485
So have you guys,
776
00:31:40.555 --> 00:31:42.605
have you guys gotten into spring cleaning yet?
777
00:31:42.605 --> 00:31:44.645
Have you, do you do spring cleaning? Is that like a thing?
778
00:31:45.435 --> 00:31:49.885
Well, I cleaned a, uh, squirrel outta my house today.
779
00:31:49.885 --> 00:31:51.565
Another one? Yeah.
780
00:31:53.225 --> 00:31:55.285
Did he chew a water pipe again?
781
00:31:55.705 --> 00:31:58.205
So I think this, Hmm.
782
00:31:58.485 --> 00:32:00.645
I don't really, um, I don't really understand
783
00:32:00.785 --> 00:32:02.125
the situation of this girl.
784
00:32:02.325 --> 00:32:04.325
'cause he didn't come from a wall. He was just in the house.
785
00:32:04.745 --> 00:32:07.725
So I feel like it was more a door.
786
00:32:08.355 --> 00:32:10.645
Yeah. Must have been
A door situation. Yeah.
787
00:32:11.185 --> 00:32:15.445
Um, but man, I tell ya, not understanding
788
00:32:15.515 --> 00:32:18.245
what was happening and hearing two dogs
789
00:32:18.915 --> 00:32:20.525
chasing a squirrel inside.
790
00:32:20.875 --> 00:32:22.845
Most comical thing you could ever imagine.
791
00:32:23.475 --> 00:32:26.925
Because for them, best day of their life, this is great.
792
00:32:27.115 --> 00:32:29.125
This is like finally it's inside. Nice
793
00:32:29.185 --> 00:32:30.185
Kid.
794
00:32:30.185 --> 00:32:30.725
Inside right now we have a chance.
795
00:32:30.865 --> 00:32:31.885
You're in our,
You're
796
00:32:31.885 --> 00:32:32.885
In our house now .
797
00:32:35.145 --> 00:32:38.965
And this poor little guy, um, evaded the dogs
798
00:32:39.385 --> 00:32:42.645
and then got into my office into a,
799
00:32:42.645 --> 00:32:44.325
like a media cabinet in one
800
00:32:44.325 --> 00:32:46.645
of the like holes in the back That would be for wires.
801
00:32:46.995 --> 00:32:49.725
Yeah.
And he was just in there
802
00:32:49.985 --> 00:32:52.965
and thankfully Brenner is determined.
803
00:32:53.505 --> 00:32:56.685
Um, and like refound him and then we finally
804
00:32:56.825 --> 00:32:58.165
Oh, like you lost track of him for a
805
00:32:58.165 --> 00:32:59.165
Second?
806
00:32:59.165 --> 00:32:59.325
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
807
00:32:59.355 --> 00:33:00.685
Like for a while we thought he was gone.
808
00:33:00.685 --> 00:33:03.885
And then Brenner was like, no he ain't Dad got him.
809
00:33:04.125 --> 00:33:05.445
I got one of these. And
So, and
810
00:33:05.445 --> 00:33:09.005
so I opened it thinking he was crazy and then he grabbed it
811
00:33:09.025 --> 00:33:11.565
and I had to like pull his neck away
812
00:33:11.585 --> 00:33:13.245
and I was like, you have to drop the squirrel.
813
00:33:13.245 --> 00:33:15.685
Best day for the dog. Worst day for that squirrel. Stop.
814
00:33:15.985 --> 00:33:18.085
It was such a cute little baby, little squirrel.
815
00:33:18.085 --> 00:33:19.725
So he goes, I got him in a Tupperware thing.
816
00:33:19.915 --> 00:33:23.085
Okay, check this out, get him out the door,
817
00:33:23.345 --> 00:33:24.485
the dogs are inside.
818
00:33:25.405 --> 00:33:27.485
I open it up, the little squirrel runs
819
00:33:27.755 --> 00:33:29.085
immediately across the street
820
00:33:30.105 --> 00:33:31.565
As far away from your house as possible.
821
00:33:31.875 --> 00:33:33.805
Yeah. Don't
They have dogs across the street?
822
00:33:34.345 --> 00:33:37.445
Yep. So my dog who, uh,
823
00:33:38.325 --> 00:33:39.605
runner very good boy.
824
00:33:39.865 --> 00:33:42.325
Um, most of the time in terms of like, he doesn't leave
825
00:33:42.665 --> 00:33:43.665
Mm-hmm .
826
00:33:43.845 --> 00:33:47.125
Apparently he knows how to get out of the gated property.
827
00:33:47.825 --> 00:33:50.405
And so ran to his little secret place
828
00:33:51.225 --> 00:33:54.485
and the next thing I know Kelly and I are looking outside
829
00:33:54.505 --> 00:33:57.125
and he's on the street going to the neighbor's house,
830
00:33:57.355 --> 00:33:58.365
chasing the squirrel.
831
00:33:58.705 --> 00:34:01.285
And this is like a good two and a half minutes
832
00:34:01.695 --> 00:34:03.845
after he watched the squirrel go.
833
00:34:04.345 --> 00:34:07.085
And he is like, dad, I'm, I'll get it, I'll get it.
834
00:34:07.165 --> 00:34:08.845
I know you up and let it go. Don't worry.
835
00:34:09.165 --> 00:34:10.925
I got it guys.
I know where he went.
836
00:34:12.025 --> 00:34:14.005
And so we finally got him back in the house.
837
00:34:14.785 --> 00:34:15.845
We were gonna take him for a walk.
838
00:34:15.945 --> 00:34:17.205
And so we like let him out.
839
00:34:17.355 --> 00:34:19.445
Took like we were gonna meet him at the
840
00:34:19.445 --> 00:34:20.565
garage and get their leashes on.
841
00:34:20.565 --> 00:34:22.005
We let him out the front door. Sure
842
00:34:22.005 --> 00:34:23.085
enough, look out the window again.
843
00:34:23.115 --> 00:34:26.285
He's out on the street, just nose to the ground, just sniff,
844
00:34:26.285 --> 00:34:27.805
like trying to track the squirrel down.
845
00:34:27.905 --> 00:34:31.325
I'm like, bro, you need to let you A impressed.
846
00:34:31.965 --> 00:34:33.005
B let it go.
847
00:34:34.765 --> 00:34:36.245
B. So did we figure
Out how's
848
00:34:36.525 --> 00:34:37.525
Cleaning?
849
00:34:37.525 --> 00:34:38.925
Did we figure out how he's getting out of the gate?
850
00:34:39.705 --> 00:34:42.565
Uh, no.
So he did, he did it twice.
851
00:34:42.565 --> 00:34:43.645
So we just don't know how he's doing it.
852
00:34:44.105 --> 00:34:46.525
No, it's like a little Houdini doodle.
853
00:34:46.645 --> 00:34:47.805
Honestly. No, he's earned it. He's
854
00:34:47.805 --> 00:34:48.845
earned it. That's his, he's
855
00:34:49.045 --> 00:34:52.365
A, he's a oodle Oodle oodle.
856
00:34:54.145 --> 00:34:55.965
Um, oh wow. Okay. I have
857
00:34:55.965 --> 00:34:57.325
A, I have a funny dog story.
858
00:34:58.105 --> 00:34:59.405
You guys already know part of this.
859
00:35:00.385 --> 00:35:02.645
So I was giving Teddy a bath today
860
00:35:02.745 --> 00:35:04.405
and I live in a very old apartment.
861
00:35:04.675 --> 00:35:06.725
This place, this place was built in the 1940s.
862
00:35:07.785 --> 00:35:10.445
The, so some stuff's just really old,
863
00:35:10.445 --> 00:35:11.525
including the bathroom door.
864
00:35:11.665 --> 00:35:14.405
So anyways, while I'm giving Teddy a bath, the door handle
865
00:35:14.505 --> 00:35:16.485
to my bathroom door just fell off.
866
00:35:16.965 --> 00:35:19.125
locking. Teddy and I in the bathroom.
867
00:35:19.475 --> 00:35:21.645
Luckily I had my phone, so I called maintenance.
868
00:35:21.665 --> 00:35:23.485
It took maintenance like 45 minutes to get me out.
869
00:35:23.665 --> 00:35:25.725
But in the meantime I was just bored locked
870
00:35:25.725 --> 00:35:26.805
in the bathroom with the dog.
871
00:35:27.185 --> 00:35:28.925
And when weird stuff happens to me,
872
00:35:29.165 --> 00:35:32.005
I call Marco Andretti on FaceTime
873
00:35:32.265 --> 00:35:34.325
and when he answers I say, you know
874
00:35:34.325 --> 00:35:35.965
how <inaudible> just kind of happens to me?
875
00:35:36.265 --> 00:35:38.285
And then he laughs and I launch into the story.
876
00:35:38.505 --> 00:35:40.805
So I called him, he answers, I tell that story.
877
00:35:40.805 --> 00:35:42.925
He goes, so you're locked in the bathroom? Yeah.
878
00:35:42.965 --> 00:35:43.925
I was like, yeah. He is like, you've
879
00:35:43.925 --> 00:35:44.645
been there for half an hour.
880
00:35:44.645 --> 00:35:46.085
Yeah. He goes, isn't that crazy?
881
00:35:46.145 --> 00:35:48.205
And he just turns the camera over to Mario
882
00:35:48.345 --> 00:35:49.645
and Michael sitting there too. .
883
00:35:50.285 --> 00:35:51.285
And it was like,
884
00:35:51.765 --> 00:35:54.845
I had called
Just to share that story with you,
885
00:35:55.705 --> 00:35:58.405
not the president of cars, not Mario.
886
00:35:58.685 --> 00:36:01.045
Andretti. . Like I would like,
887
00:36:02.105 --> 00:36:04.565
So I look, I gotta say man, occupational hazard
888
00:36:04.665 --> 00:36:06.685
of FaceTiming that's you did that.
889
00:36:06.825 --> 00:36:09.205
He did not ask to FaceTime you and trick you into it.
890
00:36:09.345 --> 00:36:11.365
You just kind of put it out there in the world.
891
00:36:12.155 --> 00:36:13.365
Just call him like a person
892
00:36:13.545 --> 00:36:15.485
or text him like you did us. I also
893
00:36:15.485 --> 00:36:18.645
Like that he was like in a, in a room with just his dad
894
00:36:18.665 --> 00:36:22.485
and grandpa and was like, hang on, Tim's FaceTiming me.
895
00:36:22.485 --> 00:36:25.405
Obviously I have to take this. No, won't step outside.
896
00:36:26.035 --> 00:36:27.925
Well no, because he assumes it's gonna be something
897
00:36:27.925 --> 00:36:29.885
embarrassing and he wants to share that with,
898
00:36:30.305 --> 00:36:31.685
you know, Michael and Mario. To
899
00:36:31.685 --> 00:36:34.565
Be clear, I would've FaceTimed you guys with the story,
900
00:36:34.625 --> 00:36:35.885
but I knew you wouldn't answer.
901
00:36:36.325 --> 00:36:37.725
I just know Marco's a better friend.
902
00:36:39.075 --> 00:36:40.965
Yeah. It's not because we were on the golf course.
903
00:36:41.105 --> 00:36:43.565
Uh, I mean I took several calls on the golf course today.
904
00:36:43.825 --> 00:36:45.885
Uh, yeah. Yours I would not have answered.
905
00:36:45.985 --> 00:36:47.485
That's fair. Alright,
906
00:36:47.485 --> 00:36:48.765
James, spring cleaning.
907
00:36:49.345 --> 00:36:51.445
We know, we know Tim's friend with Andrettis.
908
00:36:51.555 --> 00:36:52.845
It's cool. Yeah. James,
909
00:36:52.905 --> 00:36:53.905
Subtle name drop.
910
00:36:54.025 --> 00:36:56.565
Um, yeah, so we decided to do it this spring
911
00:36:57.025 --> 00:37:00.965
and, uh, I gotta, I gotta tell you, we, it's, it was a lot
912
00:37:00.965 --> 00:37:02.525
of, it was a lot of stuff
913
00:37:02.555 --> 00:37:05.005
that we have extricated from our lives.
914
00:37:05.005 --> 00:37:08.245
Well, we haven't yet procured. It's no opposite. We're
915
00:37:08.985 --> 00:37:11.325
No, but throughout your life you have procured a lot of,
916
00:37:12.045 --> 00:37:13.325
A lot of garbage, a lot of trash.
917
00:37:13.585 --> 00:37:15.085
And, and we have like a, like one
918
00:37:15.085 --> 00:37:17.085
of our garages is now just full of stuff
919
00:37:17.085 --> 00:37:20.045
and we're just waiting for like the, the 1-800-GOT-JUNK
920
00:37:20.045 --> 00:37:22.045
or whatever to come by and pick it up.
921
00:37:22.265 --> 00:37:25.365
But in and amongst all the boxes that I found in my attic,
922
00:37:25.525 --> 00:37:27.765
I found myself this nice nifty mug,
923
00:37:30.855 --> 00:37:32.925
which I do think we should make more of.
924
00:37:32.925 --> 00:37:34.565
What are you drinking out of that? Like tap water?
925
00:37:35.145 --> 00:37:36.685
Uh, it's tea. I'm
In a bed. Bourbon, but
926
00:37:37.385 --> 00:37:38.385
Tea.
927
00:37:38.385 --> 00:37:39.165
Well, no. Well, no, it's tea.
928
00:37:41.845 --> 00:37:45.445
I also found these handy dandy off track coasters. Oh,
929
00:37:45.525 --> 00:37:47.245
I thought that's what that was. Yeah.
930
00:37:47.255 --> 00:37:50.765
Which is pretty, pretty neat. Uh, we have cool stuff guys.
931
00:37:51.085 --> 00:37:53.325
I, I, I like what we've done in this world,
932
00:37:53.565 --> 00:37:54.805
although we didn't, we don't sell these.
933
00:37:55.005 --> 00:37:56.685
Somebody else made these for us and I
934
00:37:56.985 --> 00:37:58.405
forget who, but I appreciate
935
00:37:58.405 --> 00:37:59.405
It.
936
00:37:59.405 --> 00:37:59.485
I think I commissioned those.
937
00:37:59.985 --> 00:38:01.365
Did you?
I think so.
938
00:38:01.365 --> 00:38:03.405
Back when you used it, it was worth for this show, I
939
00:38:03.405 --> 00:38:04.725
Mean, well, let's go back to being mad at James.
940
00:38:04.745 --> 00:38:06.565
He was the late one. I don't wanna be on that.
941
00:38:06.565 --> 00:38:08.165
He, I don't wanna be on the bad side
942
00:38:08.165 --> 00:38:09.605
of this Alex in a bad mood.
943
00:38:09.645 --> 00:38:10.765
I don't wanna to be catching flag
944
00:38:11.155 --> 00:38:14.205
Ever since you just ended our indie talk.
945
00:38:14.205 --> 00:38:17.205
Mm-hmm. And then name dropped the whole Renny clan. Yeah.
946
00:38:17.205 --> 00:38:20.885
Yeah. Like you're, you're on thin ice, my friend. All right.
947
00:38:20.955 --> 00:38:22.245
Just calm down.
948
00:38:22.595 --> 00:38:25.005
It's gonna be a five minute episode after I cut all this .
949
00:38:25.365 --> 00:38:27.605
Anyways. Um, barbers this weekend.
950
00:38:27.605 --> 00:38:31.285
Someone once said, uh, IndyCar viewership optional.
951
00:38:31.415 --> 00:38:32.525
Let's not make it optional.
952
00:38:32.615 --> 00:38:34.685
Let's make it mandatory. . Let's, uh,
953
00:38:35.285 --> 00:38:37.725
I gotta say I got, first of all, please.
954
00:38:37.985 --> 00:38:40.805
Who said that? Nobody said that. That's not a thing. Yeah.
955
00:38:41.145 --> 00:38:45.885
Who said it was very funny? damn thing. It's hilarious.
956
00:38:49.325 --> 00:38:50.605
I don't like it. I don't like it at all.
957
00:38:50.795 --> 00:38:51.845
I'll tell you what I do like though.
958
00:38:52.445 --> 00:38:54.485
I do like the number of people that like,
959
00:38:54.575 --> 00:38:55.885
after your call to Arms,
960
00:38:56.105 --> 00:38:59.165
pre Long Beach about just watching on multiple televisions,
961
00:38:59.165 --> 00:39:02.005
how many tweets we got of people like taking pictures
962
00:39:02.345 --> 00:39:04.365
of multiple TVs in their home. Yeah.
963
00:39:04.435 --> 00:39:05.565
Just had it. Well, imagine
964
00:39:05.675 --> 00:39:07.085
what it would've been if we didn't do that.
965
00:39:07.395 --> 00:39:10.965
Yeah, no, I think we, we really helped boost that number.
966
00:39:10.985 --> 00:39:13.725
Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm . Uh, which is, which is terrific. Yes.
967
00:39:13.725 --> 00:39:16.845
Barbara this weekend. Uh, excited to see what happens.
968
00:39:17.835 --> 00:39:20.965
Golf is still not my thing. What else? I think that's it.
969
00:39:21.035 --> 00:39:22.885
Hybrids are way quicker than we thought they were
970
00:39:22.885 --> 00:39:23.885
Gonna be.
971
00:39:23.885 --> 00:39:24.885
Hybrids are quicker than we thought they were gonna be,
972
00:39:24.985 --> 00:39:27.285
but the racing is exactly what we thought it was gonna be
973
00:39:28.265 --> 00:39:29.765
the same so far, so not worse.
974
00:39:29.765 --> 00:39:31.805
Which is the same. Worse. Yeah. Not worse. Yep. Yep.
975
00:39:32.425 --> 00:39:34.885
And I think we just recapped the episode in 30 seconds.
976
00:39:35.105 --> 00:39:38.205
So if you were smart, you skipped to the end. Got the recap.
977
00:39:38.205 --> 00:39:39.805
Oh, and Tim thinks he knows how to run
978
00:39:39.985 --> 00:39:42.205
And Tim thinks he's the andretti's best friend.
979
00:39:42.465 --> 00:39:43.885
And Tim got locked in the bathroom.
980
00:39:44.115 --> 00:39:45.485
Just be mean to me day, I guess.
981
00:39:46.225 --> 00:39:49.445
Bye guys. Thanks for, thanks for watching, listening.
982
00:39:49.805 --> 00:39:53.685
Whatever you did on your Apple Watch or ew, just gross.
983
00:39:55.355 --> 00:39:57.245
This has been off track with Hinch and Rossi.
984
00:39:57.425 --> 00:40:00.605
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985
00:40:01.025 --> 00:40:02.165
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986
00:40:02.165 --> 00:40:04.005
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987
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988
00:40:05.925 --> 00:40:08.285
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990
00:40:11.425 --> 00:40:14.085
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991
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992
00:40:15.705 --> 00:40:17.165
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993
00:40:17.165 --> 00:40:18.845
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994
00:40:19.275 --> 00:40:21.525
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995
00:40:22.075 --> 00:40:24.005
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