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<v Speaker 1>This is, is off track. What's up?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Are you outside, Tim? Oh, okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you just got a windy hotel?</v>

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Or did you just put a fan in your No. In your condo.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like, it's like these backgrounds are</v>

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super realistic these days.

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Like the blurry, your background.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I just did one of those fake backgrounds.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Four D It's pretty</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.</v>

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It's green screen. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know where, where it's supposed</v>

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to be some weird background

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thing. I don't expect it. Random.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Looks like. Cool, cool, cool.</v>

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Belgium, Alex, you

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and I have exceptionally boring looking backgrounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. I'm in Altoona.</v>

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Doesn't get much more exotic than this. What?

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<v Speaker 1>Altoona. Uh, so I take it</v>

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that means you're like going testing or

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<v Speaker 2>The entire series is Teia, Iowa, uh, on Wednesday,</v>

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which is yesterday for those listening, um, tomorrow

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for those in the present.

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And, uh, the entire series is here

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because the race was so bad last year.

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Um, . So there's a, there's a whole new downforce package.

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There is a new power level.

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Um, and there's a big attempt to try

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and bring Iowa Speedway back to the,

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the lovely days that it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>Former glory.</v>

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We'll see the former glory. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>More down force, the in field of dreams more down force.</v>

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Yes. Less power

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<v Speaker 1>And less power.</v>

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Okay. So we're trying to pack it up a little bit. We're,

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<v Speaker 2>We're, we're paying the white line.</v>

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It's funny, the simulation for this, this

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arrow package slash power level.

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I'm not &lt;inaudible&gt; James is horizontal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no. Yeah, that's not good. Okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>For a layman. I know, obviously I understand what</v>

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that means, but you know, for some of our listeners

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who don't, uh, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, why don't you explain, Tim, since you know.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I</v>
<v Speaker 3>Feel like everybody likes your guys'</v>

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expertise. Mm,

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.</v>

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We do get a lot, lot of complaints when you talk too much.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a car going by in my living</v>

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room right now, so I've gotta

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mute
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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Si literal sirens going by.

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I can't believe you're on an actual sidewalk right now. If,

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys, you listeners don't give us an</v>

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enormous amount of credit for making

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this week's episode happen.

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Like, I'm gonna unmute any, any wrongdoing

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that we have previously done to you.

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IE eat, IE have poor audio. IE have Tim talk too much.

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Like all of that is forgiven. So in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agreed. Agreed.</v>

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Lots of uh, lots of hurdles were jumped

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and concessions made

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to make this episode happen with all three of us.

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Uh, so Tim, take it away.

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Please explain what painting the white line means.

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<v Speaker 3>Going through a tunnel.</v>
<v Speaker 1>We can see</v>

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that there's very blue open sky above you.

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That is a lie. That is a lie.

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All right Alex, let's have you explain

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what painting the white line means.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, you, you have so much more grip available</v>

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to you that you don't really need.

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You have excessive grip.

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Um, so you kind of just drive

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around on the bottom on the white line.

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Like you don't even have to open up the radius, uh,

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on entry or exit.

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<v Speaker 1>It becomes a distance game, right?</v>

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Because you can be flat out, you don't need to kind

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of like start up high, come down to the apex, exit up high.

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You just literally glue the left side

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tires to the white line.

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And it's all about who can create the shorter distance.

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'cause that's gonna mean a faster average speed.

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And that's like what IRL classic used to be, right?

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Like that was the mile and a half races of back in the day

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and even Iowa, to be fair, when we first started going there

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with the IRO three, it was still kind

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of a pack race and a white line race.

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Um, but Alex, correct me if I'm wrong,

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and I'm sorry if I'm, uh,

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a bit naive on this last year's race was horrific,

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but it was horrific because nobody could pass.

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And so everyone just stayed in a line on the bottom

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and drove around to a fuel number to eliminated pit stop.

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Yes. 'cause there was no tire deck.

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But the second lane was so bad

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that no one could pass a car even if

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it was going very slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>And while you were driving around to a fuel number,</v>

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you were also driving around

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to a right front sidewall temperature number.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So, um, my question is</v>

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how does adding a bunch of down force

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and taking away a bunch of power

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make the second lane work all of a sudden?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is all of our questions too.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. So now you're just gonna be</v>

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so comfortably going flat on the bottom.

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Uh, there's just zero chance of anybody going

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by up top. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you can be so far on the bottom</v>

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that like lane two is lane one.

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Maybe you can be on the apron.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe we can just like way jack the car.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>But here's, here's something that, that, you know, I know</v>

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with my limited knowledge of engineering that's really good

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for, you know, tire temp

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and load is just being flat on the bottom forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just more down for us, .</v>

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Okay, well we look forward

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to hearing all about how that went.

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Yeah. Next

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<v Speaker 2>Week.</v>

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But before we get to that road America,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go over road America before we even get to that.</v>

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Actually. Oh boy. Something happened last week right

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after we had recorded,

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and I don't know if we wanted to touch on it

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'cause it's like already over and done with,

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but the whole like

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Nolan Siegel McLaren statement thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we should definitely touch on it,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right?</v>

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Like let's, let's touch on that.

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So after the race, not even on the broadcast, a

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video circulates the interwebs

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of Nolan being upset on the radio about a blocking

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penalty that he got in the race.

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Pretty standard drivers rarely get penalties

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and are thrilled about it.

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Um, but I mean frankly he did deserve it.

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The penalty was pretty warranted.

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Uh, but the reaction was expected. It was pretty normal.

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Um, some curse words were used,

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they were directed at certain people and places and things

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and organizations.

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Look, here's the thing. Uh,

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and it's just, it's just normal guys.

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It's just part of, it's part of the deal as part of the deal

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of going racing and it's part of the deal

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of the public having access

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to driver's radios is you're gonna hear stuff

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that maybe you don't like,

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but it's also kind of none of your business

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'cause you're either dropping on a conversation

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that you weren't invited into.

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Um, so that was, that is, that was what it was.

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The part that kind of surprised me was the subsequent

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statement from the team, like admonishing his behavior

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and kind of forcing an apology.

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And I dunno about you Alex, I thought that was over the top

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and not super awesome for a team

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to like not have their drivers' back

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in a situation like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So in most all scenarios,</v>

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I think I would agree with you, um, where

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it didn't surprise me

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and I don't know

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that I hold it against them in this particular instance,

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and you wouldn't know this because you didn't drive there.

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Um, each year there's an entire kind

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of several hours set aside for communications

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and media training, if you will, with reminders and things.

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And like, one of the very first things is

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we are very concerned about

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how you express yourself on the radio, on the radio.

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So I think, yeah, so that is a McLaren brand image thing.

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Um, I don't know that I, I'm not saying that I agree

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with it, but what I am saying is all drivers,

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even teddy pork chops when he came for a little bit

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was made aware of

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how they feel about these certain things. So,

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<v Speaker 1>But that guy doesn't even know how to swear.</v>

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He's too sweet. Like that's just,

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he's never set us forward in

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his life, so it's not a concern. Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, so that, that, that is like, okay, I mean maybe</v>

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still like do it behind closed doors.

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Like, hey, we've talked about this. Like, don't do that.

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Um, 'cause the public thing, the public statement thing

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with the apology, like I do think that that

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honestly drew more attention to it than so much

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<v Speaker 1>More</v>
<v Speaker 2>Attention than, than than what it was.</v>

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Um, and especially

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considering there was some social media stuff that happened

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with that team a couple weeks prior

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and there was no like apology or anything.

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Um, I don't know.

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But, but I will give the team a little bit of grace

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because the drivers are all made very aware

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that they care a lot about radio

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communications in case they were picked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so tough, man. Like,</v>

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because it wasn't picked up on the broadcast.

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I'm sure I'm, I'm making assumptions here.

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I'm sure you had some outbursts in your,

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or sorry, not outbursts,

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let's say some transmissions in your days at the team

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that might not have fallen within the

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recommended guidelines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never keyed up a radio for two</v>

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and a half minutes, so I may have said this is

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stupid or off, or I don't agree with this or whatever.

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But I, yeah. I also haven't like mother, the owner

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of the series and you

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<v Speaker 1>Know, see I took it, I mean I took it</v>

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as, I took it as the team. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, because there was not to, not</v>

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to &lt;inaudible&gt; on Nolan because Nolan's a great kid.

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Yeah. So the radio, the radio transmission that an immediate

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that initially came out was the one about how he disagreed

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with the penalty and all this sort of thing, right?

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There was another one that came out like  50 laps

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after that where the team was like, Hey, you're lap down.

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Pat's racing for the lead here. Like, stay out of his way.

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And he was like, no f you guys,

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you put me on lap down the first place , I'm gonna do

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what I want to get my lap back.

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So I think like, like anything there, there's a,

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there's more to the story than there's

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<v Speaker 1>Always more</v>
<v Speaker 2>To the story than we, than we see.</v>

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So I talked to Nolan in Road America, he felt very bad.

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Ev vowed to be better. He's still a young kid.

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He means he's his, he's a nice boy. I don't think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>A nice kid.</v>

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And look, we've all, we've all done it

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<v Speaker 2>Caused by it. Any of it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, no. We've, we've done,</v>

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we've all done it and like I'm with you.

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I think maybe a behind the closed door, like

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for a first offense, first public offense

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behind the closed doors,

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wrist slap would probably have worked better

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because again, it probably just drew more attention

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to it the way it was handled, but mm-hmm .

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Whatever, they've got their ways of doing things.

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Not my team, not my problem.

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But I'm just need to say I'm, I stand with Nolan,

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say whatever you want on the radio if you don't like,

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and like the fans that were like,

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oh well you guys are role models,

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you shouldn't talk like that on the radio.

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That's not how it works, man.

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Like they don't mic up football players and play 'em live.

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Right. Like they sometimes will play those clips of guys

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that are micd up and it's all very

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curated and it's very specific. And

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<v Speaker 2>Take a seat, Tim, stay for a while</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Or don't I'm standing.</v>

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Yeah, I am standing. Or don't It's

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<v Speaker 1>Totally fine either way.</v>

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Either way is fine. Um, okay, so

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that was that. And then, well

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<v Speaker 3>Actually just real quick, would you guys mind if I started</v>

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a Twitter beef with TK from the off track account

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just to get some more followers?

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How about it? It feels, and I, and I love tk.

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It feels like it would be very easy to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know.</v>

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I dunno. Gotta find out.

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He's got a lot of Twitter experience. .

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Lately he's a fiery young man. That's the problem.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He's a fiery young man.</v>

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Tim, let's see, let's see

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who you come out on the right side of that one. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>Say I'd win it.</v>

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I just said it feels easy to start it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair, fair. Um, sorry, I'm holding a towel.</v>

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I just got back from the gym and I'm very ty Uh, all right.

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Road America. That happened.

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That was a thing. It was a whole

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<v Speaker 2>Thing sweaty dude.</v>

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How

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<v Speaker 1>Ah was</v>
<v Speaker 2>That?</v>

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It was, I think it was the

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hottest face I've ever done in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Really?</v>
<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think so.</v>

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It's, I mean that Indie GP August race Yeah.

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I think is still maybe higher.

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Um, but this, this one was so bad

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that like the yellows hurt.

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The yellows were painful, worse. Like, because you

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't get the air</v>
<v Speaker 2>Flow right.</v>

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Usually when the yellows come out it's kind of nice

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'cause you get a little bit of a breather

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and your heart rate can come down

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and you can, you know, get some water

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and you can, you know, just reset yourself.

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These yellows were like, oh my God, please know.

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Not another one. I'm going to die. Like, at least

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<v Speaker 1>We had five in the first half of the race</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Driving.</v>

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I, I, I've never been a, I'm not a huge fan of the heat.

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Like I sweat a lot, like whatever, but I, I can handle it.

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Like I'm not Yeah. Oh, I'm fine.

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Driving back from crossing the start finish line,

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the whole four miles back to pit lane was hard.

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Like, it was actually like physically challenging

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because all of the heat is there, your body knows

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that like the competition's done,

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so the adrenaline's starting to come down,

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you're starting to feel things.

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It was, it was, it was tough.

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And my helmet hose came off on lap 10

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and my cool suit failed on lap 10.

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So I had those things going for me as well,

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which was super nice.

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Um, so yeah, anyways, it was sweaty.

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IIII was pissing like dark yellow for 24 hours,

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um, which is maybe TMI, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're, you're pretty good</v>

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and pretty diligent about your

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hydration plan. Oh yeah. So like

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<v Speaker 2>Super, super hydrated. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Right. Yeah. You, you know the program mm-hmm.</v>

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That's, uh, yeah.

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Suboptimal because I mean it's,

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I know there's that saying, I hate it.

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I hate it so much, but it's like,

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it's not the heat, it's the humidity.

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Right. That's, that's what makes it so tough

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because like even that indie

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I, I, I didn't feel it was that humid.</v>

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I just felt like the heat, the heat

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and the sun, the intensity of the sun was

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what was getting me.

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Like, it was just like that tingly feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Dude. I found it pretty muggy</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Really? But</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because</v>
<v Speaker 2>Usually when I'm super muggy,</v>

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like I can't even be outside without sweating.

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And like, I was fine at the autograph session.

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I was fine doing a Java house appearance.

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I was fine standing on the grid, like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. I don't know because like, do you remember</v>

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like that indie G one you're talking about?

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Mm-hmm. It wasn't like a sunny day.

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It was actually kind of an overcast day,

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but it was just like 80% humidity in August and indie

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and it was just like you were swimming

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through the air and it was so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was still like 94 degrees.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Yeah.</v>

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Just 'cause that, that, that was,

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and like NEG P's a more physical track than Road America.

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Mm-hmm . So that probably contributed to it. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>Probably odd.</v>

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That was pretty, that was pre, that was pre

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like vents on the helmet.

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Yeah. And that was true pre a lot of things. So Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>It is.</v>

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Well, okay, so everyone survived the key.

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Uh, not everyone survived the race.

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It was um, a decidedly more action packed

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expel grand Prix than we see. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>Find, do you find that I, it, it would be interesting</v>

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to go back and like no one's could do

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this, but like I had a theory.

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Do you think the third

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of triple headers people just like kind

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of lose their minds a little bit or they're tired

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or whatever because like there's no reason why

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that race should have been a cluster &lt;inaudible&gt; and it was,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's like literally everyone's given up on</v>

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racing for points and so it's just like elbows out

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and like zero given

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and everyone's just sort of firing it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Ly has,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Dude, it's funny</v>

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'cause we were talking about the heat we saw on

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the back straight, the lap.

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He crashed. He had his hand out the top of the arrow screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well his cool suit failed too,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right?</v>

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So like I, he was obviously also struggling.

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I don't think that's why he crashed.

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But it was just interesting that like he did that

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and then, you know, had an incident left,

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you know, corners later.

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Um, but yeah, I mean let's, I mean start from the top.

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We had Lucas who ended up in the gravel on lap one,

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still ended up coming back

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and finishing like in the top six,

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seven, something like that. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth,</v>
<v Speaker 1>The fifth top five, like crazy, crazy.</v>

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Um, then who else?

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We had stingray with his deal, which was wild.

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I dunno if you saw the replay. That one

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<v Speaker 2>I did, I did.</v>

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Um, not awesome. Um, Connor, I don't,

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Connor, Connor had a tough day out there. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor had a tough day.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Connor had a tough day. I don't think I've ever seen an</v>

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any car, uh, drive around with a tail before.

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No. Um, but uh, but it did. So so

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<v Speaker 3>How did that happen?</v>

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He just didn't know he had it on. He

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<v Speaker 2>Hy hybrid starts, man, there's good,</v>

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there's good things and there's bad things.

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There's good things in the sense

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that obviously you can start yourself.

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There's bad things in the sense

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that you have no idea what's still

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around you when you're firing the thing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like on the replay there was an a MR safety team</v>

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member saying like, don't go, but he just fired up

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and took off and like, thank God it wasn't attached

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to the truck on the other side.

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Or maybe he broke it off the truck. No,

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<v Speaker 2>He broke it off the truck.</v>

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Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>. Oh man. Yeah.</v>

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Yeah. Not good. But like you saw the person was like holding

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their hand like this and he just took off.

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So look, heat of the moment

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and you're trying to like knock, go lap down and whatever,

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but you gotta listen to the safety team.

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'cause that could've been, if that thing went like had Slack

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and was somebody was standing on the wrong side

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of it when it went hot.

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Could have like cleaned out a

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person, like could have been seen

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<v Speaker 2>No</v>
<v Speaker 3>To two Connors.</v>

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Just, just to give his perspective,

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he did say he didn't see the person

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signaling on Twitter, so I

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<v Speaker 1>Can Yeah, for sure.</v>

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Like I don't think the person was standing at his right

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front and like he, the tracks left front,

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so he was probably already looking this way

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and just, you know, paying it to get going,

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starts up whatever.

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Um, so yeah, so there was that.

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I mean, willpower was making, trying

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to make passes work from 47 yards back,

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which was interesting.

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Put Kyle in a bad spot

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and then Kyle  promptly returned the favor.

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Uh, lard spun, not all by himself,

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but kind, you know, no contacts,

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but was force wide carbo spun kind of similar to

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what happened to Joseph Carbo on the curb there spun.

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Who else? There was more. I feel like I'm missing some,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Schwarzman. Schwarzman,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.</v>

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Yep. Just locked rears I think it was.

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And yeah, went off.

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It was a high attrition race for Road America.

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I mean normally that one's pretty boring on the strategy

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side because the windows are so small

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and, you know, adding a stop is not really an option.

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'cause the time lost to pit is pretty big

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and you have everybody pit within two laps

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and everybody stays within two or three spots.

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Where they started here, we had so many yellows

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at weird times that the field split

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like three different times.

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And we had like at least three different

471
00:18:55.265 --> 00:18:56.305
strategies running up front.

472
00:18:56.685 --> 00:18:58.745
So let's, let's run through your, let's run

473
00:18:58.745 --> 00:18:59.865
through your weekend because it,

474
00:18:59.885 --> 00:19:01.665
it wasn't a smooth one for you.

475
00:19:02.605 --> 00:19:05.425
Um, but in the race it looked like it got better.

476
00:19:06.165 --> 00:19:10.235
<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah. Uh, well the weekend was, was really bad.</v>

477
00:19:10.495 --> 00:19:12.835
Um, kind of from the beginning.

478
00:19:13.415 --> 00:19:18.275
Um, we, we just were completely missing balance

479
00:19:18.455 --> 00:19:19.675
and grip and pace

480
00:19:20.135 --> 00:19:24.785
and there was really no, um, there was no

481
00:19:25.425 --> 00:19:29.965
solution to it until, well, so we, we came, we came

482
00:19:29.965 --> 00:19:33.205
with a package, um, that we were pretty confident in.

483
00:19:34.475 --> 00:19:36.415
And Christian came with a package

484
00:19:36.645 --> 00:19:40.335
that had worked previously on a road course earlier in the

485
00:19:40.335 --> 00:19:42.535
year that we were pretty confident in.

486
00:19:43.595 --> 00:19:47.255
And man, when I tell you that like the only similarities

487
00:19:47.255 --> 00:19:48.415
between them were the fact

488
00:19:48.415 --> 00:19:50.055
that they were both IndyCar is true.

489
00:19:50.995 --> 00:19:54.245
Like there wasn't a a a spring rate that was the same.

490
00:19:54.335 --> 00:19:56.245
There wasn't a valley height that was the same, nothing,

491
00:19:56.695 --> 00:20:00.885
there wasn't even a rear wing angle that was the same. And

492
00:20:00.985 --> 00:20:02.445
<v Speaker 1>So did you develop yours in the sim?</v>

493
00:20:02.865 --> 00:20:04.605
<v Speaker 2>I'm, I'm not gonna tell you about mine,</v>

494
00:20:04.825 --> 00:20:06.565
I'm just gonna tell you it was, it was a set up

495
00:20:06.565 --> 00:20:07.685
that we had a lot of confidence in

496
00:20:09.185 --> 00:20:13.955
and, um, we got back

497
00:20:14.005 --> 00:20:17.275
after practice one being 20th and 23rd

498
00:20:17.975 --> 00:20:20.075
and had the exact same feedback

499
00:20:20.135 --> 00:20:23.365
and feeling of the car in all phases

500
00:20:23.665 --> 00:20:25.325
of the corner and the lap.

501
00:20:26.505 --> 00:20:30.485
And that was kind of a oh moment in the sense that

502
00:20:31.345 --> 00:20:34.875
there's a fundamental problem here with our approach to, to

503
00:20:34.875 --> 00:20:35.875
what we're doing at Road America.

504
00:20:37.015 --> 00:20:39.995
So there's a big kinda study overnight

505
00:20:40.015 --> 00:20:42.235
and we come with a, with a whole different package.

506
00:20:43.715 --> 00:20:47.815
Both cars are, are the same, um, and it's still terrible.

507
00:20:49.675 --> 00:20:50.655
And then it's like, well,

508
00:20:51.135 --> 00:20:52.255
practice is done, let's go qualify.

509
00:20:53.075 --> 00:20:56.055
And I qualified 24th on pace,

510
00:20:56.695 --> 00:20:58.585
Christian qualified 20th on pace.

511
00:20:59.245 --> 00:21:01.025
He had a bit of a better handle on it

512
00:21:01.055 --> 00:21:02.105
than I did, quite frankly.

513
00:21:02.165 --> 00:21:03.465
He had kinda like two, two

514
00:21:03.465 --> 00:21:04.865
and a half tenths on me all weekend.

515
00:21:07.085 --> 00:21:09.785
And I was like, man, it's, it's, it's undrivable.

516
00:21:09.825 --> 00:21:11.185
I don't know what to tell you. It was one

517
00:21:11.185 --> 00:21:12.505
of those cars change where like

518
00:21:13.345 --> 00:21:15.445
you had this mid corner undersea that existed.

519
00:21:16.225 --> 00:21:18.645
So you were like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna challenge

520
00:21:19.185 --> 00:21:20.565
the entry and trail break in

521
00:21:20.865 --> 00:21:23.285
and you'd just be backwards, like completely backwards

522
00:21:23.345 --> 00:21:26.365
and be like, okay, okay fine, I'm not gonna break late.

523
00:21:26.425 --> 00:21:28.645
I'm not gonna break hard. I'm gonna have like a humpy break

524
00:21:28.705 --> 00:21:30.645
and roll, get off the brake pedal

525
00:21:30.705 --> 00:21:33.725
and kind of carry mid corner speed like

526
00:21:34.585 --> 00:21:36.605
the on on ice.

527
00:21:36.995 --> 00:21:39.405
Like the fronts were wet, you just go straight.

528
00:21:39.805 --> 00:21:41.165
I was like, I can't, I don't even know.

529
00:21:42.125 --> 00:21:43.235
I, I feel bad

530
00:21:43.235 --> 00:21:45.675
because I can't tell you what the car is doing.

531
00:21:45.745 --> 00:21:47.875
Like I can't give you feedback on what it's doing

532
00:21:47.875 --> 00:21:51.315
because it's literally anything that I do makes it mad.

533
00:21:51.465 --> 00:21:55.785
Like I can't, I can't find any sort of, of

534
00:21:55.965 --> 00:21:58.705
of rhythm or balance or, or anything with the car.

535
00:22:02.445 --> 00:22:04.265
We went down a, a very

536
00:22:06.085 --> 00:22:08.045
interesting path, um, Sunday.

537
00:22:08.985 --> 00:22:10.125
And when I tell you that,

538
00:22:10.465 --> 00:22:14.325
or when people talk about IndyCar as, you know,

539
00:22:14.365 --> 00:22:15.565
a spec championship and,

540
00:22:15.585 --> 00:22:16.805
and all these sort of things like,

541
00:22:16.805 --> 00:22:18.405
like it very much is in the, in terms

542
00:22:18.405 --> 00:22:20.805
of everyone has the same car and tire

543
00:22:20.945 --> 00:22:24.225
and suspension components and all this sort of thing.

544
00:22:25.485 --> 00:22:27.385
The dampers are are everything.

545
00:22:27.645 --> 00:22:30.585
And I, I didn't experience that.

546
00:22:30.785 --> 00:22:32.705
I haven't experienced that ever in my career

547
00:22:32.925 --> 00:22:34.225
as much as I did this weekend.

548
00:22:35.005 --> 00:22:37.425
Um, interesting. And, and it was very interesting

549
00:22:37.425 --> 00:22:41.465
because we went from cars that were completely undrivable

550
00:22:41.765 --> 00:22:46.295
to making some damping changes to a car that was all

551
00:22:46.295 --> 00:22:49.695
of a sudden, like legitimately in 25 lap

552
00:22:49.715 --> 00:22:51.695
and 30 lap average pace, we were fourth.

553
00:22:52.775 --> 00:22:55.675
And so like we completely turned the car around

554
00:22:56.775 --> 00:22:57.805
going in a direction

555
00:22:57.805 --> 00:22:59.605
that we didn't really have an understanding of.

556
00:22:59.605 --> 00:23:03.525
We just kind of took a Hail Mary at it and it worked.

557
00:23:03.745 --> 00:23:06.205
Um, so that was, that was the only good thing

558
00:23:06.205 --> 00:23:08.605
to come outta the weekend is we actually solved the problem.

559
00:23:09.345 --> 00:23:12.445
Um, and I think it will bode very well

560
00:23:12.445 --> 00:23:14.165
for the future in terms of our race

561
00:23:14.165 --> 00:23:18.365
because we started back there, uh, we said this as a joke,

562
00:23:18.745 --> 00:23:21.765
um, in kind of the strategy meeting, do whatever Nixon does.

563
00:23:21.765 --> 00:23:22.925
Um, but then it turned into reality

564
00:23:23.065 --> 00:23:24.325
do whatever the nine car does.

565
00:23:25.265 --> 00:23:28.405
And so for a minute that was looking really good.

566
00:23:28.755 --> 00:23:31.925
Like we were on the same strategy running one two

567
00:23:32.785 --> 00:23:35.565
and then, then it, then it went away obviously.

568
00:23:35.945 --> 00:23:38.925
Um, but yeah, we were basically copy pasting the nine car

569
00:23:39.145 --> 00:23:40.885
and I was like, man, this is how he does it.

570
00:23:41.185 --> 00:23:42.765
Didn't pass a single car all day.

571
00:23:43.025 --> 00:23:46.325
And I'm like, oh, I am second chilling.

572
00:23:46.675 --> 00:23:49.045
Like on the right strategy, got the fuel,

573
00:23:49.155 --> 00:23:51.845
like everyone has one stop to go and then he all came.

574
00:23:51.845 --> 00:23:54.085
That kind of derailed all of that, but that's okay.

575
00:23:54.665 --> 00:23:56.245
Um, because it was looking really good

576
00:23:56.245 --> 00:23:57.605
for a minute and the pace was there.

577
00:23:57.665 --> 00:24:00.525
So I'm, I I left happy, believe it or not, I left happy

578
00:24:00.685 --> 00:24:02.725
<v Speaker 1>I Where did you ultimately end up or forget?</v>

579
00:24:03.445 --> 00:24:06.125
<v Speaker 2>13th.</v>
<v Speaker 1>13th. Okay. 'cause so but</v>

580
00:24:06.125 --> 00:24:09.205
<v Speaker 3>With a car that qualified 24th and and you're saying like,</v>

581
00:24:09.745 --> 00:24:11.445
and the car that you said was Undrivable.

582
00:24:11.485 --> 00:24:13.405
I know you guys made a lot of changes Saturday night,

583
00:24:13.425 --> 00:24:15.165
but like did you feel like your

584
00:24:15.225 --> 00:24:17.205
<v Speaker 2>Sunday was a great day? It was honestly.</v>

585
00:24:17.545 --> 00:24:19.125
<v Speaker 3>So, so you feel like your position was</v>

586
00:24:19.955 --> 00:24:21.125
your car should have, okay.

587
00:24:21.465 --> 00:24:24.725
<v Speaker 2>No, I think we legitimately had, we qualified, right?</v>

588
00:24:24.785 --> 00:24:25.845
We were a top five car.

589
00:24:26.605 --> 00:24:27.605
<v Speaker 3>Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

590
00:24:28.075 --> 00:24:29.685
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because when you were running up front,</v>

591
00:24:30.185 --> 00:24:33.085
you were on pace with the guys, even the guys that were

592
00:24:33.105 --> 00:24:34.765
behind you, but on the other strategy

593
00:24:34.765 --> 00:24:36.325
that had started up front, your Kirkwood

594
00:24:36.465 --> 00:24:37.485
and your pillows or whatever.

595
00:24:37.635 --> 00:24:41.365
<v Speaker 2>Dude, we were our last, our last stint,</v>

596
00:24:41.545 --> 00:24:43.245
we unfortunately were unused.

597
00:24:43.905 --> 00:24:46.365
We almost double stinted a set of used tires

598
00:24:46.425 --> 00:24:49.405
and didn't have any, any issues used reds.

599
00:24:50.015 --> 00:24:52.265
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So like that's the kind of step we took,</v>

600
00:24:52.275 --> 00:24:53.385
which is unbelievable.

601
00:24:54.255 --> 00:24:56.865
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny man, because when you guys all pit under</v>

602
00:24:56.865 --> 00:24:59.825
that first caution on like lap two or three

603
00:24:59.845 --> 00:25:02.465
or whatever it was, and Dixon was in that group,

604
00:25:02.905 --> 00:25:04.465
I sat on the broadcast, I was like,

605
00:25:04.465 --> 00:25:07.065
everybody remember this moment on lap three

606
00:25:07.175 --> 00:25:09.865
because we're gonna be talking about it when Dixon's leading

607
00:25:09.865 --> 00:25:10.905
this race would tend to go .

608
00:25:11.975 --> 00:25:14.505
Sure enough. And sure enough, this leading would tend

609
00:25:14.505 --> 00:25:16.265
to go I oh man, almost

610
00:25:16.265 --> 00:25:18.705
<v Speaker 3>Like you're good at your job</v>
<v Speaker 1>Almost.</v>

611
00:25:18.885 --> 00:25:21.025
But he didn't, he ran out so it didn't work out.

612
00:25:21.125 --> 00:25:24.185
But uh, but I'll tell you who didn't run out, why

613
00:25:24.265 --> 00:25:26.945
<v Speaker 3>I said almost</v>
<v Speaker 1>Fair, uh,</v>

614
00:25:28.175 --> 00:25:29.345
Paolo's ability

615
00:25:29.925 --> 00:25:34.825
<v Speaker 2>Six times</v>
<v Speaker 1>To dude the pace</v>

616
00:25:34.825 --> 00:25:39.275
that this was a red race for everybody except the 10 car.

617
00:25:40.245 --> 00:25:42.175
Like before we came into the weekend, people were like,

618
00:25:42.175 --> 00:25:43.895
yeah, I think it's, I think it might be a red race.

619
00:25:44.035 --> 00:25:45.695
And then we get through qualifying

620
00:25:45.695 --> 00:25:46.775
or get through practice one.

621
00:25:46.775 --> 00:25:48.095
It was like, yeah, reds were holding

622
00:25:48.095 --> 00:25:49.215
on for more than one lap.

623
00:25:49.315 --> 00:25:51.095
So like this could be a red race

624
00:25:51.095 --> 00:25:52.495
and then like, ah, it's gonna be hot on Sunday.

625
00:25:52.555 --> 00:25:54.655
But we got through warmup and I was like, man,

626
00:25:54.655 --> 00:25:55.735
I think it's gonna be a red race.

627
00:25:55.915 --> 00:25:58.455
And you look at the Firestone chart at the end of the race

628
00:25:58.555 --> 00:26:01.775
and it's like everyone's got three stints on reds

629
00:26:01.995 --> 00:26:05.335
and one stint on blacks except the 10 car.

630
00:26:05.685 --> 00:26:08.215
They are black red, B, BB, B, B back

631
00:26:08.435 --> 00:26:09.895
and they just run primaries

632
00:26:10.435 --> 00:26:15.015
and they keep a pace that is very competitive.

633
00:26:16.565 --> 00:26:19.305
Qued going longer on field than anybody else.

634
00:26:23.405 --> 00:26:26.315
I mean the pace that he held in the,

635
00:26:26.315 --> 00:26:29.035
in the last stint there when doing like 16 laps

636
00:26:29.035 --> 00:26:30.915
or whatever it was, which is a stretch.

637
00:26:30.915 --> 00:26:34.675
It's a save is unreal. And he still did the cool down lap.

638
00:26:34.745 --> 00:26:37.875
Like every, like half the field stopped at pit out

639
00:26:38.155 --> 00:26:39.555
'cause they were outta field and didn't have enough

640
00:26:39.555 --> 00:26:40.595
to do the cool down lap.

641
00:26:41.305 --> 00:26:44.725
This guy pit before the mall went faster than the mall.

642
00:26:44.785 --> 00:26:46.925
And like it was like Dixon at Long Beach last year,

643
00:26:47.115 --> 00:26:49.445
just like taking the piss, cruising around,

644
00:26:49.445 --> 00:26:50.765
doing burnouts on his in

645
00:26:50.785 --> 00:26:52.365
lap 'cause there was so much fuel left.

646
00:26:52.585 --> 00:26:54.245
But the fact that he does it on a different tire

647
00:26:54.425 --> 00:26:55.645
is so baffling to me.

648
00:26:55.665 --> 00:26:58.405
<v Speaker 2>Man. Dude, imagine that if he decided to do it on Reds.</v>

649
00:26:58.915 --> 00:26:59.915
Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

650
00:27:01.275 --> 00:27:04.005
<v Speaker 2>He's like giving us like a, like a, like a lifeline.</v>

651
00:27:04.585 --> 00:27:05.845
<v Speaker 1>He and he and Barry are like,</v>

652
00:27:05.865 --> 00:27:07.045
uh, let's make this interesting.

653
00:27:07.045 --> 00:27:08.685
Let's only run blacks today. . Yeah,

654
00:27:08.795 --> 00:27:09.795
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

655
00:27:09.795 --> 00:27:11.405
Let's make this a little bit of a challenge for ourselves.

656
00:27:11.635 --> 00:27:13.645
Like, it's, it's undeserved man. Like,

657
00:27:15.405 --> 00:27:16.545
<v Speaker 1>And, and you can't be</v>
<v Speaker 2>Bad.</v>

658
00:27:17.205 --> 00:27:18.505
<v Speaker 1>No. Like</v>
<v Speaker 2>Congrats Felix</v>

659
00:27:18.605 --> 00:27:19.825
on win number two at Road America.

660
00:27:20.035 --> 00:27:21.035
Right.

661
00:27:21.995 --> 00:27:23.985
<v Speaker 1>first in class man. Yeah. Mean first in class.</v>

662
00:27:25.025 --> 00:27:26.625
I, I gotta say, um,

663
00:27:29.255 --> 00:27:31.035
the like the other thing that was crazy about it.

664
00:27:31.035 --> 00:27:33.315
So he started third, right? No second he started second.

665
00:27:33.985 --> 00:27:35.675
He's right up there. And

666
00:27:36.185 --> 00:27:38.595
what was crazy about it is if you go back

667
00:27:38.595 --> 00:27:41.355
and watch the first half of that race, dude he was in,

668
00:27:41.615 --> 00:27:45.155
he was in some, he he was in some battles,

669
00:27:45.155 --> 00:27:46.635
he was in some ugly scenarios.

670
00:27:46.635 --> 00:27:48.915
He was in some four wide stuff going down into five.

671
00:27:48.945 --> 00:27:51.075
Like he wasn't just puddling around trying

672
00:27:51.075 --> 00:27:53.755
to stay outta trouble, he was getting stuck in.

673
00:27:54.215 --> 00:27:56.675
Now guys were also using him up

674
00:27:56.835 --> 00:27:58.275
'cause they're like, you have a race

675
00:27:58.275 --> 00:28:00.395
and a half lead in the championship, screw you.

676
00:28:00.455 --> 00:28:02.355
And they were firing it in on him.

677
00:28:02.615 --> 00:28:05.115
So he was having to drive like pretty heads up,

678
00:28:05.535 --> 00:28:09.675
but man, it was, it was so impressive that he was like,

679
00:28:10.185 --> 00:28:11.515
he's just like Dixon man.

680
00:28:11.585 --> 00:28:13.195
He's just like classic Dixon

681
00:28:13.195 --> 00:28:15.435
where he can find himself in these situations.

682
00:28:15.455 --> 00:28:17.595
But he always comes out without a scratch on the car.

683
00:28:17.905 --> 00:28:19.475
Like he always gets around it. I think the

684
00:28:19.475 --> 00:28:20.915
<v Speaker 2>Difference, he's Dixon</v>

685
00:28:21.255 --> 00:28:25.675
but Dixon with a li a little bit more pace because

686
00:28:25.675 --> 00:28:27.715
<v Speaker 1>Even D percent more outright pace, even</v>

687
00:28:27.785 --> 00:28:30.475
<v Speaker 2>Even Dixon in his prime, he wasn't the qualifying guy.</v>

688
00:28:30.475 --> 00:28:33.315
Like he was the guy that he guar you would always be in the

689
00:28:33.315 --> 00:28:34.555
fast six, like without a doubt.

690
00:28:34.695 --> 00:28:36.715
But he wasn't the pole guy. He was Yeah.

691
00:28:36.775 --> 00:28:38.955
Always four, fifth, six. Yeah.

692
00:28:39.155 --> 00:28:41.315
Occasionally throwing a pull on a noble, that sort of thing.

693
00:28:41.375 --> 00:28:43.515
But like that wasn't his thing. Yeah.

694
00:28:43.515 --> 00:28:45.715
It was like just I'll get in the fast six

695
00:28:45.815 --> 00:28:48.995
and then the nine car plus me, we will just win races

696
00:28:49.685 --> 00:28:53.235
below is like the same but like on the front row.

697
00:28:53.805 --> 00:28:55.315
<v Speaker 1>Right, right. Yeah.</v>

698
00:28:55.315 --> 00:28:58.035
I think Dixie's got like 20 something polls,

699
00:28:58.035 --> 00:29:00.875
but 60 wins, you know, like 58 wins or whatever.

700
00:29:00.875 --> 00:29:03.115
It's right. So like, uh, yeah, no,

701
00:29:03.175 --> 00:29:05.195
no, I think you're exactly right. I think

702
00:29:05.195 --> 00:29:06.195
<v Speaker 2>You're exactly right.</v>

703
00:29:06.195 --> 00:29:08.595
Speaking of polls, we gotta give huge props to Louis Foster

704
00:29:08.665 --> 00:29:12.325
because not only did he do that,

705
00:29:13.235 --> 00:29:15.695
and I don't, again, I'm not saying the &lt;inaudible&gt;

706
00:29:15.955 --> 00:29:18.615
to be disrespectful, but like in a Ray Hall car,

707
00:29:18.715 --> 00:29:21.575
but we talk about polo and we talk about Nessi

708
00:29:21.595 --> 00:29:25.295
and we talk about all this pace that he has, um,

709
00:29:25.435 --> 00:29:26.895
and a little bit faster than Dixon

710
00:29:26.895 --> 00:29:27.975
and, and all this sort of thing.

711
00:29:28.755 --> 00:29:33.535
He was on, he being Polo was on New Reds, so was Scotty Mack

712
00:29:33.915 --> 00:29:35.335
and I think that was it. Um,

713
00:29:35.435 --> 00:29:38.415
<v Speaker 1>No, Scotty Mack wasn't, wasn't, it was, wasn't all Scotty</v>

714
00:29:38.595 --> 00:29:41.055
and, and uh, foster that were used.

715
00:29:41.275 --> 00:29:44.125
Okay. So Kirkwood Polo Kirk

716
00:29:44.475 --> 00:29:45.165
<v Speaker 2>Okay. And</v>

717
00:29:45.735 --> 00:29:49.245
<v Speaker 1>Rosie</v>
<v Speaker 2>Sure, whatever, whoever it was, there was car,</v>

718
00:29:49.245 --> 00:29:51.205
there were strong cars on new tires

719
00:29:51.425 --> 00:29:55.045
and Louis Foster on used Reds beat their ass

720
00:29:55.185 --> 00:29:56.445
and like that is what's faster.

721
00:29:56.675 --> 00:29:58.525
Yeah, that is, I don't care.

722
00:29:58.765 --> 00:30:01.725
I don't care what tire is like what tire's better

723
00:30:01.825 --> 00:30:04.205
or not, if it's a red race or not, it doesn't matter.

724
00:30:04.235 --> 00:30:05.845
Used ain't better than new. Yeah.

725
00:30:05.845 --> 00:30:08.005
And he um, he, he beat 'em all.

726
00:30:08.065 --> 00:30:10.245
So like huge shout out to that guy. And it's,

727
00:30:10.515 --> 00:30:12.405
<v Speaker 1>It's not like a track like Detroit</v>

728
00:30:12.545 --> 00:30:14.525
or Toronto that are super short

729
00:30:14.665 --> 00:30:17.725
and so there's only five corners to make a difference.

730
00:30:17.725 --> 00:30:18.925
Right. You talking about Road America,

731
00:30:18.925 --> 00:30:20.805
you're talking about four, like a little bit

732
00:30:20.825 --> 00:30:23.205
of a late pickup on the throttle outta three

733
00:30:23.305 --> 00:30:25.725
and you're losing two tens down the back straight, you know,

734
00:30:25.725 --> 00:30:27.765
like you've gotta be absolutely on it.

735
00:30:28.225 --> 00:30:30.845
And uh, and he did, I'm sorry his race didn't go better.

736
00:30:31.145 --> 00:30:33.205
You know, it's, it's such like a, such a roller coaster,

737
00:30:33.205 --> 00:30:34.965
like such a high high four him on Saturday

738
00:30:35.105 --> 00:30:37.165
and I don't know, I think he ended like 14th

739
00:30:37.265 --> 00:30:39.565
or something, had a, had a rough day on Sunday.

740
00:30:40.025 --> 00:30:41.485
Uh, but that's, you know, he's young.

741
00:30:41.555 --> 00:30:42.885
He's got a lot of race in front of him.

742
00:30:43.015 --> 00:30:44.965
He'll get, he'll get to feel the other side of it too.

743
00:30:45.025 --> 00:30:47.165
But, um, I just thought it was,

744
00:30:47.245 --> 00:30:48.925
I always thought it was such an exciting race man.

745
00:30:48.925 --> 00:30:50.965
There was so much good action in that first half

746
00:30:51.515 --> 00:30:53.245
guys were being super aggressive.

747
00:30:53.825 --> 00:30:56.965
Uh, some great racing, some on the edge racing,

748
00:30:57.195 --> 00:30:59.305
like borderline racing.

749
00:30:59.305 --> 00:31:02.185
<v Speaker 2>Well James, James tires that don't dig</v>

750
00:31:03.045 --> 00:31:04.865
and you can hammer people are gonna race.

751
00:31:04.865 --> 00:31:06.495
Yeah. Yeah. Like

752
00:31:06.725 --> 00:31:07.815
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess that's part of it.</v>

753
00:31:07.845 --> 00:31:09.055
It's so funny because we talk about

754
00:31:09.055 --> 00:31:13.075
how tired DG makes good races, right?

755
00:31:13.225 --> 00:31:14.515
Yeah, no, but like, when you're

756
00:31:14.515 --> 00:31:18.195
<v Speaker 2>Just No, no, what makes good races is a big difference</v>

757
00:31:18.195 --> 00:31:19.395
between JF Yeah.

758
00:31:19.405 --> 00:31:21.515
Right. One and the other. Yes.

759
00:31:21.735 --> 00:31:23.675
To call deck itself on a noble shirt,

760
00:31:23.735 --> 00:31:25.155
but on a road course I don't think it does

761
00:31:25.155 --> 00:31:26.715
because people are smart enough.

762
00:31:27.215 --> 00:31:28.275
No one's gonna go out there

763
00:31:28.455 --> 00:31:30.075
and blow their load for four laps.

764
00:31:30.145 --> 00:31:31.755
Like everyone knows that they have

765
00:31:31.755 --> 00:31:33.755
to like protect the tires and everything.

766
00:31:33.755 --> 00:31:35.675
Right? This isn't 2000

767
00:31:35.735 --> 00:31:39.875
and what was it 10 when Pelli came into F1

768
00:31:39.875 --> 00:31:41.555
and no one had ever saved tires before.

769
00:31:41.555 --> 00:31:43.755
Right. That doesn't, right. That doesn't exist now.

770
00:31:43.825 --> 00:31:46.675
Tire savings a thing in motorsports. So Yeah.

771
00:31:46.875 --> 00:31:50.555
I I think that big big delta between primary and alternate

772
00:31:50.615 --> 00:31:53.395
and a tire that holds up creates Indy car racing

773
00:31:53.425 --> 00:31:54.435
that we all know and love

774
00:31:55.175 --> 00:31:57.355
<v Speaker 1>And Road America. Like that's</v>

775
00:31:57.935 --> 00:31:59.995
<v Speaker 2>Man, there's been some sleepers at Road America before.</v>

776
00:32:00.625 --> 00:32:01.835
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. You're right.</v>

777
00:32:01.935 --> 00:32:04.195
But there's, there's opportunity there when,

778
00:32:04.425 --> 00:32:05.595
when a car's got some pace,

779
00:32:05.605 --> 00:32:06.675
there was some opportunity there.

780
00:32:06.735 --> 00:32:07.955
For sure, for sure. Um,

781
00:32:08.695 --> 00:32:10.385
so yeah, it was just, it was exciting.

782
00:32:10.385 --> 00:32:13.185
So the first half was all action, second half was all like,

783
00:32:13.555 --> 00:32:15.105
who's on the right strategy.

784
00:32:15.455 --> 00:32:17.505
Yeah. Like we were losing our minds in

785
00:32:17.505 --> 00:32:19.305
<v Speaker 2>The, the 10 that the 10 card didn't even know</v>

786
00:32:19.315 --> 00:32:20.745
until like 10 to go.

787
00:32:21.375 --> 00:32:23.425
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I, it felt so much better when I read</v>

788
00:32:23.425 --> 00:32:25.665
that quote from Barry Weer because like t be

789
00:32:25.665 --> 00:32:28.025
and I are up in the booth, we're like, I think that's good

790
00:32:28.085 --> 00:32:30.345
for this guy in Bedford.

791
00:32:30.455 --> 00:32:33.025
That guy I think he can't make it,

792
00:32:33.045 --> 00:32:35.025
but he can, can he make it?

793
00:32:35.145 --> 00:32:37.585
I, and then when he said to like, yeah, Juan was like, yeah,

794
00:32:37.585 --> 00:32:38.905
we didn't know if we were on the right thing

795
00:32:38.905 --> 00:32:40.125
or not until 10 to go.

796
00:32:40.145 --> 00:32:42.085
I'm like, okay. Thank God. That's just terrific.

797
00:32:42.275 --> 00:32:44.205
Yeah, that's terrific. Um,

798
00:32:44.385 --> 00:32:46.285
<v Speaker 2>Um, and then we gotta give another shout out.</v>

799
00:32:46.485 --> 00:32:50.085
I mean, it's well deserved and hell yeah. Brother Santino

800
00:32:50.355 --> 00:32:52.605
<v Speaker 1>Santino Ucci absolutely, absolutely.</v>

801
00:32:52.735 --> 00:32:55.085
Drove a great race and then smashed Miller

802
00:32:55.085 --> 00:32:57.485
Lights  internal one. That's

803
00:32:57.485 --> 00:32:58.645
<v Speaker 2>So good. That</v>

804
00:32:58.645 --> 00:32:59.645
<v Speaker 1>Is so good.</v>

805
00:32:59.645 --> 00:33:02.165
Classic man. It's like every driver's dream end

806
00:33:02.165 --> 00:33:04.165
to a race is have a fan just, just

807
00:33:04.715 --> 00:33:07.805
toss you a cold frosty one and knock it back.

808
00:33:08.125 --> 00:33:09.525
<v Speaker 2>I might, I might park it outside.</v>

809
00:33:09.525 --> 00:33:11.205
Turn one even if I'm not outta gas next

810
00:33:11.205 --> 00:33:13.205
time.
<v Speaker 1>, we</v>

811
00:33:13.205 --> 00:33:16.365
<v Speaker 3>Saw Connor get a depends sponsorship from</v>

812
00:33:16.365 --> 00:33:17.525
peeing and his race car.

813
00:33:17.685 --> 00:33:19.445
I mean, how far out are we from a Miller Light

814
00:33:19.445 --> 00:33:20.765
sponsorship for Santina?

815
00:33:20.765 --> 00:33:22.965
<v Speaker 2>They're, they're already involved in Speedway. It,</v>

816
00:33:23.025 --> 00:33:25.845
<v Speaker 1>It would be weird if Larry Foyt</v>

817
00:33:25.845 --> 00:33:28.525
and Co are not making phone calls first thing Monday morning

818
00:33:28.525 --> 00:33:30.605
to the Miller Cords Corporation, be like, Hey guys,

819
00:33:30.825 --> 00:33:32.005
do you see our boy on the weekend?

820
00:33:32.025 --> 00:33:33.245
Mm-hmm . And he's on a run

821
00:33:33.245 --> 00:33:36.165
of like three top fives in a row or something. Like

822
00:33:36.165 --> 00:33:37.845
<v Speaker 2>He's two podiums, three top fives. Yeah.</v>

823
00:33:38.275 --> 00:33:41.325
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He's just, he's . He's on a roll man.</v>

824
00:33:41.425 --> 00:33:44.205
And they say Ma Lucas has come back with great. Who else?

825
00:33:44.545 --> 00:33:47.485
VK had another great drive into the top 10. Um,

826
00:33:47.625 --> 00:33:49.325
<v Speaker 2>Kif dog, P six Kiffin</v>

827
00:33:49.325 --> 00:33:52.125
<v Speaker 1>Another great result for Kiffin. Uh,</v>

828
00:33:52.265 --> 00:33:54.205
<v Speaker 2>And, and we talked about Nolan earlier.</v>

829
00:33:54.505 --> 00:33:58.725
Uh, we need to talk about a, a big result for him P eight

830
00:33:58.865 --> 00:33:59.885
to McLaren Carr.

831
00:34:00.185 --> 00:34:03.285
Um, which is pretty incredible when you think about it.

832
00:34:03.585 --> 00:34:06.735
But also this is probably a little known fact.

833
00:34:07.235 --> 00:34:09.415
He had to come back from a little team error,

834
00:34:09.465 --> 00:34:11.095
which he was quite about on the radio.

835
00:34:11.475 --> 00:34:12.655
So our boy learned his

836
00:34:12.655 --> 00:34:13.455
<v Speaker 1>Lesson.  bet he was,</v>

837
00:34:14.395 --> 00:34:17.615
<v Speaker 2>Um, somehow three primaries in one alternate</v>

838
00:34:17.665 --> 00:34:18.775
ended up on his car.

839
00:34:19.635 --> 00:34:23.175
No. Uh, so I don't know when in the race that happened.

840
00:34:23.255 --> 00:34:24.375
I assume it was under yellow

841
00:34:24.375 --> 00:34:26.055
because he still got a good result.

842
00:34:26.155 --> 00:34:27.735
So it didn't like end his day.

843
00:34:28.675 --> 00:34:30.695
But yeah, that, that's, uh,

844
00:34:30.875 --> 00:34:32.055
that's not an awesome

845
00:34:32.125 --> 00:34:33.925
look to have happen. Isn't that great?

846
00:34:34.385 --> 00:34:35.765
<v Speaker 1>No. Yeah. P eight, no</v>

847
00:34:36.315 --> 00:34:38.205
Armstrong P five, that was the other good one.

848
00:34:38.365 --> 00:34:40.085
Kirkwood hanging on

849
00:34:40.085 --> 00:34:41.285
to championship like Kirkwood

850
00:34:41.285 --> 00:34:42.445
looked like he was gonna win at one point.

851
00:34:42.445 --> 00:34:43.725
We're like, okay, we got the

852
00:34:43.725 --> 00:34:45.525
championship Battle titans more. We do

853
00:34:45.525 --> 00:34:47.045
<v Speaker 2>Not, not ne nay.</v>

854
00:34:47.825 --> 00:34:49.365
<v Speaker 1>No. The solo Cup machine.</v>

855
00:34:49.875 --> 00:34:51.725
It's so ironic that like the guy

856
00:34:51.725 --> 00:34:53.325
that doesn't really drink is sponsored

857
00:34:53.325 --> 00:34:56.725
by Solo Cup at Road America where like half,

858
00:34:56.925 --> 00:34:59.685
I mean more than half the people there cruising around with.

859
00:34:59.685 --> 00:35:00.925
So red solo cups. Yeah.

860
00:35:00.925 --> 00:35:03.085
<v Speaker 2>You know, at least we're going into a permanent road</v>

861
00:35:03.085 --> 00:35:05.045
course that he is really struggled at coming up.

862
00:35:07.565 --> 00:35:10.575
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Mid Ohio. He's been pretty good at in the past.</v>

863
00:35:11.715 --> 00:35:15.535
Uh mm-hmm . And then, uh, then what's I Iowa

864
00:35:15.715 --> 00:35:16.715
<v Speaker 2>At least he sucks at Toronto.</v>

865
00:35:17.175 --> 00:35:19.215
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say then Toronto, everybody came second</v>

866
00:35:19.235 --> 00:35:20.775
or third with half a front wing.

867
00:35:20.845 --> 00:35:23.215
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. From</v>
<v Speaker 1>18th or whatever. He qualified.</v>

868
00:35:23.355 --> 00:35:24.535
<v Speaker 2>He really, yeah, he really struggles.</v>

869
00:35:24.535 --> 00:35:27.015
He really struggles there. Mm-hmm . Yeah.

870
00:35:28.325 --> 00:35:30.945
Laguna bad form Portland. Oh hey,

871
00:35:30.945 --> 00:35:32.585
<v Speaker 3>Have you guys thought about painting the white line?</v>

872
00:35:32.765 --> 00:35:33.765
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you go,</v>
<v Speaker 1>I</v>

873
00:35:33.865 --> 00:35:34.865
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm sorry.</v>

874
00:35:34.865 --> 00:35:36.305
Why don't you go paint the town red back there, pal

875
00:35:37.135 --> 00:35:38.355
<v Speaker 1>Red, like that bus behind you.</v>

876
00:35:38.355 --> 00:35:39.635
What bus What's, where are you

877
00:35:39.635 --> 00:35:40.755
Tim? What is happening over here?

878
00:35:40.905 --> 00:35:42.035
<v Speaker 3>It's one of those Zoom backgrounds.</v>

879
00:35:42.625 --> 00:35:43.955
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's not though. Where are</v>

880
00:35:43.955 --> 00:35:46.195
<v Speaker 3>You</v>
<v Speaker 1>In a hotel room? Where are you</v>

881
00:35:46.575 --> 00:35:47.635
<v Speaker 3>One of those Zoom backgrounds?</v>

882
00:35:48.095 --> 00:35:50.315
<v Speaker 1>No, I see a red double deck or bus.</v>

883
00:35:50.345 --> 00:35:53.075
What does that, uh, usually indicate? And

884
00:35:53.075 --> 00:35:54.835
<v Speaker 3>Is that they got really, really good Zoom</v>

885
00:35:54.835 --> 00:35:56.115
backgrounds. Is that

886
00:35:56.155 --> 00:35:57.595
<v Speaker 2>A clock named after my son</v>
<v Speaker 3>?</v>

887
00:35:58.455 --> 00:36:00.155
No, it's, you know, like the banks

888
00:36:00.165 --> 00:36:02.235
where they have like the time and the temperature.

889
00:36:02.265 --> 00:36:03.355
It's like an old one of those.

890
00:36:03.535 --> 00:36:04.875
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, okay, okay.</v>
<v Speaker 3>The other</v>

891
00:36:04.895 --> 00:36:06.235
side's a giant thermometer. ,

892
00:36:06.675 --> 00:36:07.755
<v Speaker 1>What's up? Brushing water.</v>

893
00:36:07.995 --> 00:36:10.555
I can hear, uh, I can hear behind you.

894
00:36:11.095 --> 00:36:13.115
<v Speaker 3>What's</v>
<v Speaker 2>The, what it's called the, the, the,</v>

895
00:36:14.585 --> 00:36:15.585
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

896
00:36:15.585 --> 00:36:17.995
I don't know what said it was like a a a river named

897
00:36:17.995 --> 00:36:19.395
after me by a guy with a lisp

898
00:36:19.545 --> 00:36:20.545
<v Speaker 3>Fame.</v>

899
00:36:20.545 --> 00:36:20.915
You guys sound ridiculous.

900
00:36:21.095 --> 00:36:23.675
I'm, I'm obviously in la I'm not the one who travels.

901
00:36:24.485 --> 00:36:28.275
<v Speaker 1>Right, right. Um, so you that was a</v>

902
00:36:28.325 --> 00:36:29.635
<v Speaker 2>Wheel ride guys, .</v>

903
00:36:32.265 --> 00:36:33.915
<v Speaker 1>This is great. Yeah.</v>

904
00:36:34.135 --> 00:36:36.955
So weirdly guys, this this week's off track, none

905
00:36:36.955 --> 00:36:38.395
of us are in our hometowns.

906
00:36:38.855 --> 00:36:40.675
Uh, but two of us are in the same town,

907
00:36:40.675 --> 00:36:41.995
which is often the case.

908
00:36:42.105 --> 00:36:44.395
Alex and I are often in Indianapolis, uh,

909
00:36:44.525 --> 00:36:46.315
while Alex is in Altoona.

910
00:36:46.535 --> 00:36:47.995
Mm-hmm . Uh, Tim and I are in London,

911
00:36:48.855 --> 00:36:50.715
and happened to run into each other in London.

912
00:36:51.675 --> 00:36:54.235
<v Speaker 3>I was keeping that a secret. Thank you. Hmm. .</v>

913
00:36:55.705 --> 00:36:58.195
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You were making big efforts, big efforts on that .</v>

914
00:36:58.635 --> 00:37:00.195
<v Speaker 2>I bet you'd both rather be where I am.</v>

915
00:37:00.815 --> 00:37:02.555
<v Speaker 3>No,</v>
<v Speaker 2>Tim, I got a couch for you.</v>

916
00:37:02.935 --> 00:37:05.675
<v Speaker 3>I'm good. Got a nice, I got a nice hotel room in there.</v>

917
00:37:06.125 --> 00:37:07.515
There you go. So I'm not using

918
00:37:07.515 --> 00:37:10.075
because my daughter is asleep. Um,

919
00:37:10.775 --> 00:37:12.635
<v Speaker 1>So you're, you're on a family trip.</v>

920
00:37:12.865 --> 00:37:15.075
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. What are you doing out here other than just</v>

921
00:37:15.075 --> 00:37:16.275
following me around the world?

922
00:37:17.195 --> 00:37:19.355
<v Speaker 1>I have, I just,</v>
<v Speaker 3>That the</v>

923
00:37:19.355 --> 00:37:20.715
Doubledecker bus is right there, .

924
00:37:23.155 --> 00:37:24.875
<v Speaker 1>I am, I'm just taking a page outta your book</v>

925
00:37:25.135 --> 00:37:28.995
and you know, you often just show up to places where Alex

926
00:37:29.015 --> 00:37:31.835
and I say we're gonna be for, you know, fomo reasons

927
00:37:32.295 --> 00:37:35.115
and so I just figured I'd do the same. You

928
00:37:35.115 --> 00:37:36.435
<v Speaker 3>Not now you get it now you see, see,</v>

929
00:37:36.655 --> 00:37:37.875
<v Speaker 2>You feel you're not getting, you're not getting</v>

930
00:37:37.945 --> 00:37:39.955
like sized in anything. Like

931
00:37:39.955 --> 00:37:41.435
<v Speaker 1>A might do some clothing shopping while I'm</v>

932
00:37:41.435 --> 00:37:42.955
here I guess, but Oh,

933
00:37:43.195 --> 00:37:44.195
<v Speaker 2>'cause the turning.</v>

934
00:37:44.195 --> 00:37:45.675
<v Speaker 3>I have some watches today because they</v>

935
00:37:45.675 --> 00:37:46.675
<v Speaker 1>Have, I did, I did try some watches.</v>

936
00:37:46.865 --> 00:37:49.715
<v Speaker 2>What is, what is that? Uh, it's the famous row</v>

937
00:37:50.795 --> 00:37:53.185
where all the suits are not Hedgerow

938
00:37:53.295 --> 00:37:54.305
<v Speaker 3>Silverstone,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Um,</v>

939
00:37:54.725 --> 00:37:58.795
<v Speaker 2>No,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Um, um,</v>

940
00:37:59.695 --> 00:38:01.675
um, I know what you're talking about,

941
00:38:01.895 --> 00:38:04.485
but, uh, I can't think of the name.

942
00:38:04.545 --> 00:38:09.085
<v Speaker 2>Famous Street, London Row Suits.</v>

943
00:38:10.135 --> 00:38:11.585
<v Speaker 1>Well there's like, like Kings Row,</v>

944
00:38:11.585 --> 00:38:12.905
<v Speaker 2>Seville Row. Seville Row.</v>

945
00:38:12.905 --> 00:38:14.825
<v Speaker 1>Seville Row. There you go. Yes.</v>

946
00:38:14.905 --> 00:38:15.985
I need to go to Seville Row

947
00:38:15.985 --> 00:38:18.105
and get a new suit for all my broadcasting.

948
00:38:18.245 --> 00:38:21.585
And that, that let's go is why I'm in the

949
00:38:21.585 --> 00:38:22.705
United Kingdom. Oh,

950
00:38:22.705 --> 00:38:24.345
<v Speaker 3>Here they have some nice fireproof ones.</v>

951
00:38:24.345 --> 00:38:25.785
They make 'em out of Nomax now. Mm.

952
00:38:26.135 --> 00:38:28.505
<v Speaker 1>That sounds hot. That sounds very hot.</v>

953
00:38:28.505 --> 00:38:30.705
<v Speaker 2>So wait, wait, James, are you approximately one</v>

954
00:38:30.705 --> 00:38:32.345
and a half hours north of London right now?

955
00:38:32.965 --> 00:38:34.385
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm, I'm right in the city.</v>

956
00:38:34.605 --> 00:38:36.285
I'm right in the big city at the moment.

957
00:38:36.625 --> 00:38:38.565
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Do you have to go approximately one</v>

958
00:38:38.565 --> 00:38:39.965
and a half hours north of London tomorrow?

959
00:38:40.585 --> 00:38:43.285
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tour around the country at various points.</v>

960
00:38:43.285 --> 00:38:44.725
Gonna, I have various stocks we

961
00:38:44.725 --> 00:38:45.765
we're gonna, that I have to make gonna

962
00:38:45.765 --> 00:38:47.565
<v Speaker 3>Watch the changing of the Guard tomorrow. Yeah,</v>

963
00:38:47.665 --> 00:38:48.665
<v Speaker 1>We are gonna do that.</v>

964
00:38:48.665 --> 00:38:50.445
We're gonna, we're gonna, we, so we did the London Eye,

965
00:38:50.445 --> 00:38:52.005
which I'd never done, which was cool.

966
00:38:52.985 --> 00:38:56.285
Um, and we're gonna go see the guards changing,

967
00:38:56.285 --> 00:38:58.245
which I have done, but we'll see again.

968
00:38:58.985 --> 00:39:01.005
Uh, and then yeah, just some, just some odd chores,

969
00:39:01.075 --> 00:39:02.445
some odds and ends, some bits

970
00:39:02.445 --> 00:39:04.485
and bobs I gotta do around town, uh,

971
00:39:04.665 --> 00:39:07.605
before we head to, uh, mid Ohio. So Nice.

972
00:39:07.775 --> 00:39:09.005
<v Speaker 2>James,</v>
<v Speaker 3>You No, you,</v>

973
00:39:09.005 --> 00:39:10.685
you look pretty tired. Do you need to take a seat?

974
00:39:11.285 --> 00:39:12.805
<v Speaker 1>I do. Oh, I'm in a seat.</v>

975
00:39:13.045 --> 00:39:14.925
I need to, I need to lie down Tim,

976
00:39:15.265 --> 00:39:18.245
but thank you for your concern, uh, on that. Um,

977
00:39:18.305 --> 00:39:19.325
<v Speaker 2>Do you know, you know,</v>

978
00:39:19.425 --> 00:39:20.845
you know when, um, you know, when, um,

979
00:39:21.195 --> 00:39:22.645
<v Speaker 1>This is fun for me. This is is good. Let's keep</v>

980
00:39:22.645 --> 00:39:24.965
<v Speaker 2>There used to be, there used to be like he's just trying</v>

981
00:39:24.965 --> 00:39:26.325
to fit in when Fry's,

982
00:39:26.755 --> 00:39:29.365
when Fry's Electronics was in existence

983
00:39:29.785 --> 00:39:31.165
and maybe Best Buy did this,

984
00:39:31.225 --> 00:39:35.965
but like new electronics, you could like demo them, right?

985
00:39:36.355 --> 00:39:38.525
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever, did you ever do that</v>

986
00:39:38.545 --> 00:39:40.845
or wanna do that or get the chance to do that?

987
00:39:42.145 --> 00:39:46.005
<v Speaker 1>You know, I, I I hadn't real quick pulled this</v>

988
00:39:46.065 --> 00:39:48.085
<v Speaker 3>Usable or has this episode been done for three</v>

989
00:39:48.085 --> 00:39:49.085
minutes?
<v Speaker 1>?</v>

990
00:39:50.305 --> 00:39:53.485
I'm hoping that it's at some point in my life I'll get

991
00:39:53.485 --> 00:39:57.645
to demo some, some electronical machinery stuff.

992
00:39:57.645 --> 00:39:59.805
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. With your suit from Seville Row,</v>

993
00:40:00.535 --> 00:40:01.535
<v Speaker 1>Right?</v>

994
00:40:01.535 --> 00:40:03.245
Or Yeah, or yeah, whatever, you know, whatever,

995
00:40:03.565 --> 00:40:05.365
whatever the appropriate uh, attire would be.

996
00:40:05.575 --> 00:40:09.485
Right? Um, but I have to say that the weather's great here,

997
00:40:09.485 --> 00:40:11.725
which is not something you can often say in,

998
00:40:11.945 --> 00:40:13.165
in England. Um, well, yeah,

999
00:40:13.165 --> 00:40:15.445
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise Tim wouldn't be outside in his Zoom background.</v>

1000
00:40:15.905 --> 00:40:18.485
<v Speaker 1>That's a great point. He wouldn't have said it to outside.</v>

1001
00:40:18.745 --> 00:40:20.205
So Alex, what are you doing this

1002
00:40:20.205 --> 00:40:22.745
weekend after your Iowa test? I'm going to

1003
00:40:22.745 --> 00:40:23.745
<v Speaker 2>The lake, bro.</v>

1004
00:40:23.745 --> 00:40:27.105
I'm gonna have a weekend off. Nice. Um, it's gonna be just a

1005
00:40:27.105 --> 00:40:28.105
<v Speaker 1>Nice, did you see Bow Fix?</v>

1006
00:40:28.525 --> 00:40:30.025
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm, I don't know. I mean yes,</v>

1007
00:40:30.045 --> 00:40:31.465
but I'm not testing it out.

1008
00:40:31.655 --> 00:40:34.825
That thing is for sale and it is in perfect condition.

1009
00:40:35.545 --> 00:40:36.825
<v Speaker 1>I thought you changed your mind on that</v>

1010
00:40:37.605 --> 00:40:38.705
<v Speaker 2>And then it broke James</v>

1011
00:40:38.765 --> 00:40:40.785
<v Speaker 1>Before Blue, but now it's all brand new.</v>

1012
00:40:41.255 --> 00:40:42.585
<v Speaker 2>Well, for a new owner,</v>

1013
00:40:42.585 --> 00:40:42.585
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

1014
00:40:44.855 --> 00:40:48.105
Alright, well if anybody's interested in a 2023

1015
00:40:48.255 --> 00:40:49.625
mastercraft, whatever it is.

1016
00:40:49.625 --> 00:40:53.305
<v Speaker 2>No, 2020 mastercraft X 24 is for sale. Hit me up.</v>

1017
00:40:53.815 --> 00:40:54.905
It's got a new gearbox.

1018
00:40:56.215 --> 00:40:59.105
<v Speaker 1>It's, and it's been towed to Safety by Michael Andre .</v>

1019
00:41:00.045 --> 00:41:02.945
<v Speaker 2>Man, he'll even sign it.</v>
<v Speaker 1>He'll definitely sign it.</v>

1020
00:41:02.975 --> 00:41:04.945
Yeah. Uh, so which link are you going to?

1021
00:41:05.245 --> 00:41:08.545
<v Speaker 2>I'm not telling you in case people, uh, wanna find me, so</v>

1022
00:41:08.805 --> 00:41:09.805
<v Speaker 1>That's fair.</v>

1023
00:41:09.805 --> 00:41:10.425
We'll talk later. Yeah.

1024
00:41:10.425 --> 00:41:12.785
Uh, we'll have a great weekend off, uh, Tim,

1025
00:41:12.815 --> 00:41:13.985
have a blast in London

1026
00:41:14.285 --> 00:41:17.865
and maybe some other town in Europe, like

1027
00:41:18.435 --> 00:41:19.545
<v Speaker 3>Still don't know what you're talking about</v>

1028
00:41:20.165 --> 00:41:21.165
<v Speaker 1>Or something.</v>

1029
00:41:21.365 --> 00:41:25.785
Um, and Harris, we'll see you guys next

1030
00:41:26.705 --> 00:41:27.945
tomorrow to next week,

1031
00:41:28.625 --> 00:41:30.185
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow week, next week, yeah.</v>

1032
00:41:30.255 --> 00:41:31.255
Goodbye.

1033
00:41:32.295 --> 00:41:34.245
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1034
00:41:34.425 --> 00:41:37.605
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1035
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