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<v Speaker 1>This is, is off track.</v>

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Gentlemen, welcome. Welcome to Off Track with Hinch

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or Rossi this week.

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It is. You guess it, Tim, take it away, pal.

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No, I'm just kidding. Don't do that.

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No, seriously, don't talk. Just shut up.

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Uh, no, we're joined.

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We're very happy to be joined this week by a guest

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and not just any guest.

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A very special guest, Mr. Reus vk joins us this week.

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Uh, welcome to the show, bud. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>You.</v>

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Thank you. It's, uh, good to be here for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. First time, uh, first time guest.</v>

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I, I assume long time listener.

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I, you know, I assume you just regularly listen to Off Track

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with in Generosity. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.</v>

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I wake up every day longing for a new episode.

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Yes. He would be

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<v Speaker 3>The only one of the three of us that does Correct,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.</v>

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Or any fan or any, any listener whatsoever.

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Uh, before we started, I,

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I was just commenting on your helmet collection behind you,

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and I said, I really like the one

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that's directly behind your head.

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Yeah. That one there. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>And you said that my national helmet</v>

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said was, yeah, your national helmet.

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I love that.  Prize possession. I'm my helmet

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<v Speaker 2>Short, but I put the brackets up,</v>

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so I might as well put that on.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta put something up there. Yes.</v>

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Is that, like, is that not the one

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that you wore when you did your little spin?

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Did you, did you wear a cowboy hat when you did your famous

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spin intro at the Indy 500?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at the 500, but I did it a few times</v>

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in Nashville, Texas.

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I actually bought it in Nashville.

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Uh, it's real Stetson,

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but, uh, I only found out when my card

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was in the reader that it was real. So

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<v Speaker 3>From the cost then I take it?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was a bit too expensive. Is James</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Frozen up a little bit?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he might be shook. All</v>
<v Speaker 3>Right. You're back, James.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Alright. You look better this</v>

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time.
<v Speaker 1>,</v>

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I'm gonna take that as a compliment. Yes. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, quality wise,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's Oh, oh, so not, I don't physically.</v>

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Okay. No. Yeah, no, yeah, I knew,

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I knew such meant, knew touch meant.

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Yeah, it's fine. It's fine.

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uh, well, yeah, sorry for that little interruption,

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but s obviously, you know,

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you're coming off an incredible weekend in Toronto.

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I'm still up in Canada. I can see you're back home.

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Jim didn't bother making it out for the trip,

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but just, just talk to me man about the feelings

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of getting your first podium of the year, first podium

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with Dale Coin Racing last week in Toronto.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was awesome. It was, it was just, uh, it,</v>

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it was waiting to happen.

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Uh, we had all these races back to back coming, you know,

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being a hard charger coming from the back

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and really moving forward on strategy into the top 10.

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But we never really started up front, so

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that was gonna be my focus.

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We just need to build a car that's gonna be, you know,

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good enough from the get go

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and, you know, something we can roll off quick

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and, and qualify well with.

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So we qualified ninth. Pretty good. Good.

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Way better than, you know, the best of 18

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to had in the last five.

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So, uh, then going to, uh, coming into the race,

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we just maximized strategy

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and uh, we got it right once again, which, uh, you know,

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Del Coin Racing is known, known for.

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And, um, yeah, I mean, this is my first podium in 60 races,

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so Wow.

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Pretty big. It feels, feels good

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to be back on on the podium.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt. So, I mean, I kind</v>

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of wanna talk about a couple of things you touched on there.

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Um, you know, you've had this incredible run of,

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of top 10 finishes this year,

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and normally, as you kind of alluded to,

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they've been coming from further back starting positions

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than you'd like, certainly starting positions

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outside the top 10.

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So when you find yourself starting inside the top 10,

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you've got this great qualifying position in ninth,

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like you said, is it,

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are you more worried about maintaining that position?

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Or are you thinking, Hey, if I can move up from

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20th into the top 10 now that I'm starting in the top 10,

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I mean, top five is a realistic goal? Um,

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<v Speaker 2>Both, I would say yes.</v>

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Um, if you look at the, our stats,

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we should be moving forward, but also it's, it's, you know,

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you're, you're starting in the back kind

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of no pressure at all

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before the raise, kind of, well, whatever happens, happens,

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we'll, we'll, we'll we'll see, we'll see out there,

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and now you're starting in nine

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and see, just have a bit more pressure

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and you, you gotta move forward.

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So, um, I knew we were gonna be on that kind

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of weird strategy to start

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with going along on the alternates.

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Uh, but I had a lot of faith in it.

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I, I knew exactly what we needed to do

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to make that, make that work.

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So, uh, even though we were struggling in the beginning,

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keeping them under underneath, you know,

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we had one less stop to go at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you, when you talk about, uh, the kind</v>

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of strategy play,

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because this was a, this was very much a,

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a strategy race, right?

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I mean, there were a few different times when the field

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split under caution kind of Road America esque in

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that sense, Dale Coin racing and,

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and Dale as a strategist in particular, he is known

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for being able to roll the dice and,

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and kind of read the strategy Well,

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how much were you involved in those decisions

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that were being made when, I mean, obviously you were,

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you were involved in the very first decision, which was

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to start on the softs

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and try to do it a little bit differently.

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But then as the race evolved

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and we saw some of the cautions come out

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and we saw some of the wrong decisions made

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by some big teams, what's that process like between you

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and Dale, you know, on the racetrack

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making those strategy calls? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, actually this was exactly</v>

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our plan, what we did.

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So before the race, kind of

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after to warm up, which wasn't really a warm up

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with a little bit of driving we did in the wet, um, we,

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yeah, we basically made the plan to go long

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and, you know, just kind of stick with it.

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So that's exactly what we did.

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And, um, yeah,

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I think it did, it worked for us.

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We didn't have to, to do any crazy

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things out there on track.

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We, we didn't have to make any crazy calls,

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but that's, I mean, that's how, how it went.

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Uh, we just kind of went with the plan.

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You stuck again, huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry man. We're we're getting you just fine.</v>

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I'm up in the middle of nowhere,

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so my internet's terrible. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's fine.</v>
<v Speaker 3>This would be better if I had any</v>

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insightful questions and could pick up the slides ,

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but no, it was just awkward silence for

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me.
<v Speaker 1>,</v>

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oh, the war. See Reina,

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this is why we're not even sure why we hire this guy,

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why we keep him around, but it's fine. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>We all have these people our</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Lives, we have these people, we have these people. ,</v>

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um, Sonas tell me, I mean, coming into this year,

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you know, you and I have talked obviously outside

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of this show,

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but about how the,

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the change from ECR came as a surprise.

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Dale jumped in pretty quick, you know,

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even though the deal wasn't announced until fairly close

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to the season, you guys did

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that test together in October at the Speedway.

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You were pretty confident, you know, from an early phase

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that it was going in the right direction.

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So you probably knew a bit more than the rest of us.

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But when you came into this year,

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what were realistic expectations for you in terms of,

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you know, how many top tens you guys thought you could get

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and, you know, what sort of position the championship you

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thought you'd be running it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a realistic goal for me was P 16</v>

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or top 16 in the championship.

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Um, and I would say, you know, like three,

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four top tens would would've been, you know, pretty,

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pretty big after, after last season for them

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with no finished benefit, 13th.

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So that was, for me, a realistic goal.

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But, you know, you never really know what to expect.

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I, I hated setting goals to the beginning of the season

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because I didn't know how we,

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how we were gonna be every weekend. So

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<v Speaker 3>With obviously having a little bit of a momentum now</v>

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behind you guys, I mean, have the conversations changed?

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Are, are you starting to expect more outta the weekend?

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Does that come with more

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disappointment if you don't get that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we, we've been getting top tens most of the time.</v>

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Uh, we've, we've been doing so well. Uh, yes.

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I mean, IO was a struggle.

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We, we didn't have any base in qualifying,

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but still finishing 12 to 16th was pretty big.

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So as long as we keep maximizing what we have, you know,

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strategies on our side,

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it's not gonna be like that every race.

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So if, if we get strategy to not go our way

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and we still maximize, that's all we could do.

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So, you know, I, I think we're at that this point

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of the season where we know what we need

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to show up with every race in, in,

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in the every race coming up.

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So we, we've got that experience at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Rena, with the success that you've had, uh, with Dale,</v>

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and you know, obviously it was a,

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it was a tough last kinda year at ECR,

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but it's just been such a revelation here and,

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and you've talked about the sort of family atmosphere.

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It's, it's the people around you

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that are really helping you kind

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of get the best outta yourself.

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Again, you're putting up these incredible results.

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I don't know, are you allowed to tell us,

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are you on a multi-year deal with Dale Coin Racing?

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Or was it a, is it a one and, and then see what happens?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, it's just a one year deal for now</v>

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because it all came together so late.

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You know, both of us.

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Yeah, we, we, I just took what, what Dale gave me ,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, point</v>
<v Speaker 2>As you do,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>As you do,</v>
<v Speaker 2>I needed to be IndyCar. We've,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>We've heard some things about, uh, about the,</v>

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the agreements that Dale can coined driver

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skidder sometimes don't

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get ,
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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm driving, I'm driving happy</v>

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<v Speaker 1>To be in the car, happy to be in the car and kicking ass.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>My stock has gone crazy since Dale hired me.</v>

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So , he made a good investment.

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<v Speaker 1>So that, that leads me to my next question is,</v>

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with only a handful of races left in the season, you know,

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silly season starts a little bit earlier these days than it

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did five, 10 years ago.

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Has this led to conversations with other teams?

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Do you have any idea what 2026 looks like for you?

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Is it staying with Dale? Are you exploring other options?

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Kind of where, where are we at?

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<v Speaker 3>He's got power seat, right?</v>
<v Speaker 1>? Well,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're not even sure what he,</v>

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he's not even sure about his future.

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But I mean, for, for me, yes, I'm, I'm exploring every,

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every option I see around me right now, just, just seeing

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what is best for my, for my career in the long term.

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Um, there is some more chatter around me.

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Yes, there's some, you know, some,

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some pulling on my shirt going on,

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but I, things are still moving

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and it's still really dependent on other,

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on other pieces of the puzzle.

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So, um, best thing I can do right now is just be

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successful, keep doing this.

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It's gonna be good for me, good for Dale, good

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for whoever profits from it.

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So that's, that's basically what I'm, what my goal is

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for now is to just keep doing what we're doing

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and, uh, hopefully get a top 10 in the championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct me if I'm wrong,</v>

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Mike Cannon's engineering you at the moment, right?

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Yes, he is. And so, you know, Mike Cannon comes with,

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I don't even know how many years, decades

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of IndyCar experience

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and IndyCar success, not just experience.

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I mean, he's been winning at the highest

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level for a long time.

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Just kind of talk to me what it's like, you know, getting

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to work with somebody that's got that sort of track record

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and what has he kind of brought to your program, taught you

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as a driver, you know, what has his,

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how has his experience kind

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of helped you perform in this new environment? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So he, he brings a lot of consistency to our team.</v>

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I think that's the biggest thing.

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You know, we, we had some success

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before he joined, uh, after the 500.

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But yeah, he just brings us consistency, like showing up

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with top 10 pace every weekend.

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And I think what he really brought to me as

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what he is teaching me is, you know, he worked

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with Scott Dixon, the, the Master of Fuel Saving.

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So my green, green mileage was great, it was fine.

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It was the yellow mileage, how to save fuel

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with the Honda engine under Pace car laps.

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Is that, that's where you make a big difference.

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So, uh, he's, he's been pushing me there.

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Like the first real race I did with him was Gateway.

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He is like, I'll give you this number for yellow.

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I'm like, what? How's that possible?

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So, but at the end of the race I made it.

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So it's just things like that,

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that open up strategy make things easier for, for, for Dale

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and, and the other guys Underst stand

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and, um, he also has,

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just has a good leadership role within the team,

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you know, to the tire guy.

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Just little things, you know,

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little management roles on the timing stand where he just,

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you know, takes that very well. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>A year you're what now?</v>

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24, 25, 24?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.</v>
<v Speaker 1>24. And you're in your sixth</v>

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season of IndyCar. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Very, I just wanna</v>
<v Speaker 3>Say I'm very against people</v>

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that much younger than me doing this. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry. Yeah,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>And, and Tim, I I maybe missed the, the second part.</v>

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He's in his sixth season. No, I caught at the age of 20.

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Love it. Right? I just didn't like it. Right.

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I mean, is it weird person for you arenas

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to think about the fact that you are 24 years old

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and you already have this much experience in IndyCar racing.

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I mean, 18 year olds don't get opportunities like

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that and make it last.

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I mean, the few times I've seen it in my career

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before you, those drivers didn't end up having

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long careers in IndyCar.

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I mean, you are a bit of a phenom in that sense.

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Do you, do you appreciate that at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I really do. I really do.</v>

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And, uh, I mean, for me, my goal is to be in IndyCar

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for the next 20 some odd years

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and turn into, you know, one of the big, some

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of the big guys you're

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<v Speaker 1>Going after Dixon's record, aren't you?</v>

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Oh yes. You're going after his star record.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes. Oh.</v>

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And hopefully his win record too, but there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Um,</v>
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, for me, I mean,</v>

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I was telling my manager Adrian Sussman,

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that I'm worried about getting too old at this point, .

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So, and I said, yeah, I want you to know something.

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Do something before it gets too old.

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He's like, old, you're 24. So I,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to appreciate something here.</v>

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I got into IndyCar at 24,

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my rookie season was 24. So like, well that's

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<v Speaker 3>'cause they had just invented</v>

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the internal combustion engine.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I hate you. So I'm not Hunter Ray. Calm down .</v>

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But I mean, no, dude, it's, it's incredible

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that you've had not only this number of races,

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but the success that you've had at this age.

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And it's, I I, I'm, I was curious,

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and I'm interested to hear you say the fact that you are

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gunning for those records, you wanna be the guy

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that's racing here till you 45

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and has maybe the first guy to reach 500 IndyCar starts.

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Like is that ki is that the kind of thing you think about?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, yes. And, uh, I just wanna be, I want my name</v>

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to be synonymous with IndyCar.

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So, you know, when you think of IndyCar,

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Scott Dixon, it's willpower.

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It's, well, a few years ago, Ryan Hunter Ray,

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it's people like that, you know, that it is just,

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it's my goal to be, to be one of the legends in the sport.

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Like, like, like they are.

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And, um, yeah, I mean just, just

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IndyCar itself, like I have no, no,

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no interest in driving anything else than IndyCar.

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IndyCar is just the, the thing I live for at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about how this sort of came about,</v>

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because obviously, you know, growing up in the Netherlands,

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everybody in Europe's original dream is def one,

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but you always stood out to me

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because you were one of the guys

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that made the transition in North American

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racing very early.

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You came over, you know, on the road to Indy,

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you won championships, you kind of excelled through that,

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that c or that program.

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What was it for you that was so appealing to IndyCar

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that made you from such a young age want to come over,

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you know, stateside and, and try that on front for size?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the first thing for me, the, the,</v>

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the biggest thing when I first came over is the, at

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that point it was the master road to Indy,

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but just the latter system towards IndyCar

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where success actually gets you to the top.

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Where in Europe, you know, there's numerous

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of Formula three, formula two drivers

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that win championships,

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but just don't get the shots in, in F1.

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So it's just, uh, you know, for us, we didn't wanna be one

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of those guys where yeah, you're, you're winning stuff in,

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you know, on the way to F1, but then you get stuck

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because politically

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and financially it just can't,

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there there's no place for you.

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So for me, NICAR was the spot

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and I just, you know, when I first started racing in the US

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and, and, and the road to India was just, yeah, I mean, you,

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you race in the same weekends,

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you fall in love with it right away.

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<v Speaker 1>So that, so that was really it.</v>

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I mean, growing up was, was F1 what you watched

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and kind of what you originally aspired to, to get

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to when you were, you know,

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carting we say at, uh, a young age?

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<v Speaker 2>Initially, yes. I would say when I was a little kid,</v>

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you know, every Sunday races were on,

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and I mean, I rely on like,

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is not just a name in the Netherlands, you know, he's, he's,

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he's, he has a big identity, so I've always looked up

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to him, to IndyCar

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and you know, you just grow up with everything.

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You know, you're go-karting.

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If we're not practicing, we're watching F1, right?

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It's just on, on TVs.

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So that's kind of the, the, the local sport,

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the, the national sport.

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But then when you, when you look further is, you know,

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IndyCar is getting so much more popular right now

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also just because of me being in there. For sure,

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. I get it. I believe</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It.</v>

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That's why I started watching Finally ,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in the Netherlands, I'm not making that much</v>

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of a hit yet in the US .

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So we've got 17 million people.

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So we're, we're, we're getting here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'm, I'm, I'm part Dutch.</v>

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I'll, I'll, I'll claim some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you speak some Dutch Tim?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No, Hazel was trying to learn it</v>

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and I, I, no offense, I don't know why like, we're,

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we're from a very big Dutch family, but I was just like,

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but like, when are you gonna use that in Los Angeles? ?

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Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she goes to the race lot.</v>

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It could have been to communicate with Reus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go. There you go. You can help her out.</v>

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She's, uh, she'll, I'll get her

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to start her Duolingo again. Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are weird sentences. That's</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Language has ever learned a language from Duolingo,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Um, reus, you know, I've always admired the fact that,</v>

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you know, family is obviously a really big part of your life

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and a big part of your career.

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You know, your parents, I think,

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I think I've seen them at every IndyCar race, you know, uh,

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maybe outside of COVID since you joined the series,

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your wife Carmen is there all the time as well.

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How important for you is it to kind of have that,

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that very close support system of your family

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with you seemingly all the time? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just very important.</v>

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I mean, especially, you know, uh, with my parents, they,

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they sacrificed a lot for me

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to get into a ncar, uh, just as a family.

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We did so did my sister.

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Uh, so for, for them to be at all the races, you know,

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being there in Toronto, being there for my first win,

467
00:18:50.095 --> 00:18:51.305
just all that support.

468
00:18:51.685 --> 00:18:54.305
Um, it's, it's very important to me

469
00:18:54.305 --> 00:18:56.745
because, you know, it, it, I I feel like that's my way to,

470
00:18:57.165 --> 00:19:00.345
uh, uh, like my, my way to repay them for,

471
00:19:00.405 --> 00:19:03.145
for everything I sacrificed, you know, success is just,

472
00:19:04.005 --> 00:19:06.225
you know, I feel like, like I'm, I'm,

473
00:19:06.225 --> 00:19:08.825
I'm doing the right thing there for them. Uh, and

474
00:19:08.965 --> 00:19:10.625
<v Speaker 3>Why is it, is it hard for parents</v>

475
00:19:10.625 --> 00:19:11.825
to have a kid that's into racing?

476
00:19:12.455 --> 00:19:13.825
I've never heard that. Terrible. I

477
00:19:13.825 --> 00:19:14.825
<v Speaker 2>Would never do it.</v>
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

478
00:19:15.005 --> 00:19:17.225
Oh my God, there's no chance. Absolutely.

479
00:19:17.335 --> 00:19:20.305
Like, I'm not having kids explicitly

480
00:19:20.305 --> 00:19:22.665
because I never want, I wouldn't want them

481
00:19:22.825 --> 00:19:24.065
to ever have an interest in racing.

482
00:19:24.125 --> 00:19:26.065
So I'm not even gonna have kids. I don't risk yet.

483
00:19:26.545 --> 00:19:29.625
<v Speaker 3>I have, I have never met anyone in racing</v>

484
00:19:29.965 --> 00:19:31.945
who says it's a good idea to get their kids into

485
00:19:31.945 --> 00:19:32.945
racing
<v Speaker 2>.</v>

486
00:19:33.015 --> 00:19:35.105
Yeah. And they still end up doing it too. Yeah.

487
00:19:35.335 --> 00:19:36.865
<v Speaker 1>Dixon's kids in a car right now,</v>

488
00:19:37.165 --> 00:19:39.345
all harder race kids love driving car.

489
00:19:39.345 --> 00:19:42.065
Like, I mean, they all say it, but they're all dumb

490
00:19:42.085 --> 00:19:43.705
and expose their kids to it and,

491
00:19:43.765 --> 00:19:45.305
and then they're gonna be, you know,

492
00:19:45.475 --> 00:19:46.745
wanna be drivers down the line.

493
00:19:46.745 --> 00:19:47.985
It's gonna be a whole thing. Yeah, true.

494
00:19:47.985 --> 00:19:49.145
<v Speaker 3>I mean, worked out for</v>
<v Speaker 2>That's true.</v>

495
00:19:49.145 --> 00:19:51.505
But then, you know, also my wife, this was her first podium

496
00:19:51.535 --> 00:19:53.625
that she was actually at in Toronto. Really?

497
00:19:54.005 --> 00:19:55.745
<v Speaker 1>So</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was pretty cool.</v>

498
00:19:55.885 --> 00:19:59.185
So, uh oh, that's very cool. 360 races has been so long.

499
00:19:59.575 --> 00:20:02.745
Yeah. So, um, you know, it is, it is just awesome

500
00:20:02.765 --> 00:20:04.265
to be on there, have them around

501
00:20:04.485 --> 00:20:08.225
and, uh, yeah, it is, it, it is just like you said,

502
00:20:08.305 --> 00:20:10.505
a support system that really, you know, it, it,

503
00:20:10.505 --> 00:20:13.385
it ma makes me feel at home, even in the us. And

504
00:20:13.385 --> 00:20:15.745
<v Speaker 1>Look, I mean, that support system is so crucial</v>

505
00:20:16.095 --> 00:20:20.065
because a driver's career is up and down, right?

506
00:20:20.165 --> 00:20:21.945
You have good days, bad days,

507
00:20:22.005 --> 00:20:23.945
you have good years and bad years.

508
00:20:24.005 --> 00:20:25.625
And with what, you know, you went

509
00:20:25.625 --> 00:20:27.905
through in this off season, I bet having

510
00:20:27.905 --> 00:20:29.705
that support system there and

511
00:20:29.765 --> 00:20:32.345
and close to you was, was a huge boost

512
00:20:32.485 --> 00:20:35.505
and helped you kind of come back from that and,

513
00:20:35.605 --> 00:20:37.305
and find the success that you've had.

514
00:20:37.685 --> 00:20:40.805
So kind of on that same path,

515
00:20:42.575 --> 00:20:45.315
the success that you've had this year, like the podium,

516
00:20:45.345 --> 00:20:48.125
even aside, I mean, all the top tens, all the strong results

517
00:20:48.125 --> 00:20:50.325
that, that you've had, the super strong Sundays

518
00:20:50.325 --> 00:20:53.885
that you've had, how rewarding is it for you as a driver

519
00:20:54.145 --> 00:20:57.365
and how, you know, confidence inspiring?

520
00:20:57.505 --> 00:21:01.885
Is it for you coming off a year like 20, 24, you have

521
00:21:01.885 --> 00:21:03.365
what happens at the end of this season?

522
00:21:03.505 --> 00:21:04.565
You drop by the team

523
00:21:05.145 --> 00:21:07.845
and then to come back with the smallest team on the grid,

524
00:21:07.905 --> 00:21:09.925
the lowest funded team on the grid, all the things

525
00:21:09.925 --> 00:21:12.325
that people kind of associate with Dale Coin

526
00:21:13.065 --> 00:21:14.165
to come into this year

527
00:21:14.505 --> 00:21:17.125
and have hit the ground running, have all the results

528
00:21:17.125 --> 00:21:19.525
that you've had now, the podium to your name.

529
00:21:20.005 --> 00:21:22.085
I mean, how, how good does that feel?

530
00:21:22.145 --> 00:21:24.165
And kind of how important was it to you

531
00:21:24.625 --> 00:21:26.125
to really make a statement this year?

532
00:21:26.235 --> 00:21:28.045
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very important and it just feels,</v>

533
00:21:28.305 --> 00:21:30.925
it feels super good, not just for me, but also for Dale.

534
00:21:30.975 --> 00:21:33.445
We're kind of in the same redemption kind of story.

535
00:21:33.985 --> 00:21:37.245
Um, different, you know, different ways we got there,

536
00:21:37.345 --> 00:21:39.165
but we, we both want the same thing.

537
00:21:39.185 --> 00:21:42.765
So, um, yeah, just the, the story makes,

538
00:21:42.975 --> 00:21:44.285
makes it just so much better.

539
00:21:44.355 --> 00:21:47.285
When I was the last guy to be signed, uh, right

540
00:21:47.285 --> 00:21:50.245
before the season now we've had seven top tens,

541
00:21:50.245 --> 00:21:53.765
which is my tide for best, with four races to go, really?

542
00:21:53.865 --> 00:21:56.565
And yeah, yeah, year best season you

543
00:21:56.565 --> 00:21:57.565
<v Speaker 1>Had seven top tens.</v>

544
00:21:58.085 --> 00:22:02.135
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, so last year I had seven, which was my,</v>

545
00:22:02.195 --> 00:22:03.815
my best in my incar career.

546
00:22:04.795 --> 00:22:05.895
And now we're at seven.

547
00:22:06.165 --> 00:22:08.775
Well, I hope we can get to 10 so that,

548
00:22:09.155 --> 00:22:10.575
you know, it is just so good.

549
00:22:10.575 --> 00:22:14.095
It feels so good. And, um, I mean, do coin racing too.

550
00:22:14.095 --> 00:22:15.895
They, they just, they make it all work

551
00:22:15.955 --> 00:22:18.775
and with the family too, you know, we suffer as a family

552
00:22:18.875 --> 00:22:22.175
and we, we, we celebrate succeed as a family.

553
00:22:22.355 --> 00:22:24.055
Family, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

554
00:22:24.515 --> 00:22:25.975
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. That's so cool.</v>

555
00:22:25.975 --> 00:22:28.775
Well, hey man, uh, we were just so, so impressed

556
00:22:28.775 --> 00:22:30.015
with everything you've done all year,

557
00:22:30.035 --> 00:22:33.655
but especially that drive on Sunday in Toronto, uh, I know

558
00:22:33.655 --> 00:22:35.615
that that champagne probably tasted a little bit sweeter

559
00:22:35.615 --> 00:22:36.735
than any of the ones that you've had.

560
00:22:36.875 --> 00:22:38.775
So congrats on that. Oh yeah.

561
00:22:38.835 --> 00:22:41.415
We wish you all the best for the remaining four races.

562
00:22:41.715 --> 00:22:43.815
I'd love to see 10 top 10. Let's make it happen.

563
00:22:44.235 --> 00:22:45.775
I'd love to see a top 10 in the points.

564
00:22:45.865 --> 00:22:48.735
Let's make it happen. And then I'm super excited for you,

565
00:22:48.735 --> 00:22:50.375
man, for the off season because you know,

566
00:22:50.375 --> 00:22:52.575
we've got a longer off season than normal and, uh,

567
00:22:52.835 --> 00:22:54.895
and there's some movement happening in the driver's market

568
00:22:55.035 --> 00:22:56.615
and I know that your name has now kind

569
00:22:56.775 --> 00:22:59.175
of reached fever pitch, you know, it's, it's top

570
00:22:59.175 --> 00:23:01.095
of the pile in terms of, uh, of the drivers

571
00:23:01.095 --> 00:23:02.215
that people are talking about.

572
00:23:02.395 --> 00:23:04.175
So keep up the great work buddy.

573
00:23:04.275 --> 00:23:07.695
Always been a fan, uh, always impressed with what you do

574
00:23:07.715 --> 00:23:08.735
and can't wait to see what

575
00:23:08.735 --> 00:23:10.215
the last four have in store for you. Yeah,

576
00:23:10.215 --> 00:23:11.215
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

577
00:23:11.215 --> 00:23:11.895
Thank you very much. Thanks for everything on the show

578
00:23:11.915 --> 00:23:13.855
and, uh, well let's do another one.

579
00:23:13.855 --> 00:23:15.935
When I got 10 top tens and top 10 in the

580
00:23:15.935 --> 00:23:16.935
<v Speaker 1>Championship, that's a deal.</v>

581
00:23:16.995 --> 00:23:18.895
That's a deal. Okay, we'll see you at the end of the season.

582
00:23:18.895 --> 00:23:21.815
Celebrate the 10. Alright. Alright, buddy, take care.

583
00:23:23.325 --> 00:23:25.215
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584
00:23:25.435 --> 00:23:28.575
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