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This is, is off track totally.
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A totally on record conversation. Uh, right.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Off Track with Hinch
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and Rossi on a Tuesday.
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And it's a celebratory Tuesday.
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So we brought in a celebratory guest who
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I'm hoping hasn't stopped celebrating the incredible
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national championship for the Iers,
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Mr. Clayton Anderson, Mr.
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Indiana himself. Welcome to the
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show,
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Oh, thanks for having me, guys.
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I tell you what, uh, I'm barely hanging on by a
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thread
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Yeah, that's what we wanna hear.
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It's been, uh, we were in, um, Phoenix
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for a big dirt track race out here on Saturday.
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And then two hours sleep, got to Miami, played a huge event
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for IU that was just unbelievable.
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Like a career highlight moment.
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Um, it's right up there
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with playing farm aid in the Indy 500.
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And, um, and then we went to the football game
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and I screamed my head off.
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And, uh, then we played an after party
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and I got about an hour and a half sleep.
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Um, and we're back in Phoenix again
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to end on a dirt track race party.
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I just gotta get through the night.
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Oh my God. So
One, one more show.
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Does, does a singer, like, do you need your voice?
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Is that a important ?
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Yeah, tonight. Tonight.
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Uh, I wish that I could be, uh, doing comedy, but, uh, sure.
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It's, yeah. It's, it's gonna be a struggle tonight.
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I'm not gonna lie. It's gonna be okay.
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Okay. Well, well, clay, let's,
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let's give the people a little backstory here.
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Um, explain a little bit about, you know,
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the music career in general,
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but then also what the tie in is with iu,
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why you are Mr. Iu.
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Yeah, I, I, you know,
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I'm a hillbilly from Bedford, Indiana.
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Born and raised in Indiana, Hoosier. Uh, I went to iu.
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I fell in love with music.
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I started playing, you know, it was easy way
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to get girls' attention playing on the couch,
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or the parties after, after, uh,
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after going out to the bars or something.
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So, um, one thing led to another.
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I opened a, I won this contest,
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got opened up for Kenny Chesney.
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Um, I'm the biggest IU homer ever.
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I wrote a song called Indiana
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and ESPN blasted it all over the Peach Bowl.
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They played it again last night, um, only one time,
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you know, but, you know, uh,
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it is, but they still played it.
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Yeah, they still played it.
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So it's just, it's been really cool.
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It's been really cool to see
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people kind of come around the song.
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'cause I've had the song out since 2000 and 2001 or two.
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So it's been, it's been a huge blessing.
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I mean, IU right now is like raising all tides, like,
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or their tide is raising all ships.
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It's unbelievable. I'm happy to be caught in a wake
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and, uh, I mean,
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you guys saw us like down on Peach Bowl is unbelievable.
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Just imagine that five times bigger
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last night celebrating what?
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I still can't believe we even won. It's unbelievable.
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It's so fun in the airport today.
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Everyone congratulating you.
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I'm hugging and kissing strangers. It's
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Unbelievable.
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I mean, to be fair, you do that most days,
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but it's like different,
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you know, there was a reason for it.
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They were initiating it now rather than you
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just walking out to 'em, which is good. Yeah,
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Exactly. ,
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Walk us through, uh, 'cause
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'cause the friend group that I found myself a part of
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in Indianapolis, uh, yourself included a lot of IU alum.
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Explain to the people
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because there, there's, there's so many storylines around
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what this past two and a half, three years have been like.
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Right. Indiana's always been a basketball school.
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It's been arguably the worst football
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program in the country.
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All of these things. And why does it
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mean so much?
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Explain it to James and I
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really, people who didn't go to college.
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Why does it mean so much now that the football program,
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'cause you always had basketball, right?
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You always had that going for you.
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It's a great school in, in other departments.
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Why is the football team so important?
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You know, I think, I didn't even know football was so fun.
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I mean, we were always a great tailgating school .
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We, uh, we tailgate like crazy.
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We dreamed of making a bowl game every year.
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We just wanted to win six games.
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And that would usually come down
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to playing Purdue at the end of the season.
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Um, but we were undefeated at tailgating.
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We really know how to throw a party .
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Um, but it, uh, it's kind of like,
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you know, I mean, we've had a drought.
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We were also unrealistic basketball fans
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because we haven't really been good at basketball for,
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uh, quite a while.
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I mean, a long time. Uh, so to, to see.
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I think, I think everyone was just, the IU fan base was
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so starved to have a win, to have something to rally behind.
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Um, and everyone's just come together.
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You got this coach who, who is, is like us. You know?
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I feel like we feel like he's one of us.
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Uh, blue collar bootstraps kind of guy goes out there
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and gets the job done.
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Um, and to me, I would describe it like in the racing world,
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it's like you take the, you take the team
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that's running the back of the pack forever
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and it doesn't have that, doesn't have the funding,
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doesn't have the nicest gym to work out.
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Does has the crappiest crew chief, or has a crappiest crew.
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But by golly they decide they, they go out
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and make this random crazy hire to get a engineer to,
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to put the car together.
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And you all of a sudden are America's team
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because everyone's rooting for this dang underdog.
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You know? And it's, and and some those goes. I
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Feel like you just talked the, I feel like you just said
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the plot of Days of Thunder, but
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Yeah, yeah.
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Only we're not as handsome as Tom Cruise,
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but, uh, , um, yeah, it's just,
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it's just an unbelievable feeling for us Hoosiers,
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because we just we're so passionate about iu.
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Um, it's not just about the sport,
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it's about the college town.
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It was about the experience.
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I think Bloomington's one of the coolest college I've been
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to every, almost every big college town in the country.
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And it's just, it's just cool.
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And IUP there's something about Indiana people
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and I hope that you guys feel this, um, that that, uh,
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that there's, it's, there's a charm to it,
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but we also take care of one another.
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And it's just, it's just when we have these good things
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going, it's just, just wanna hug everybody
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and kiss everybody and say, God,
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Daniel worked at National Campus.
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So what I, what I find so fascinating right?
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Is, is in Indiana you've got this IU Purdue rivalry, right?
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And in, in said friend group, we've, there's like one
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or two pur doers right in the sea of iu.
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And there's always those fun kind of days
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where you guys are playing each other
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in whatever sport it is.
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And, and the tension's up.
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But I mean, everybody in Indiana, I, I mean, I can think
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of one guy that kind of stuck, you know, stuck his guns
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and didn't cheer for iu,
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but the rest of 'em, they're like, no, look,
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it is an Indiana school and we're gonna go for it.
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Obviously there was a lot of people that,
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let's call it Spade Spade,
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were bandwagons when they started doing well
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and have jumped on board.
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Right? , like everyone here hands up.
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Do you think though, with, with the success that they've had
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and, and like watching this happen, right?
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Like, it, it was really fun to, to be in the middle of,
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and like watch how everybody got into it.
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Do you think that this has kind of helped solidify
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Indiana or like Hoosier football fans, IU football fans,
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because now they have been good,
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hopefully the program will continue to be good.
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Or do you think if next year's not a great season that
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that popularity tapers off?
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'cause I'm from Toronto, we haven't won a cup in
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hockey since 67.
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Every lease game is still sold out. We are not bandwagons.
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We know what it's like to go
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through a drought, but we stick by the team.
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Do you think that this is a cool enough story
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that it's made lifelong fans outta people? Um,
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I mean, I, I definitely think there's
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been lifelong fans made.
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Um, I, I don't know.
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I was really pulling for you guys this year, by the way.
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I don't really Thank you. I don't, I don't know.
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I don't know if, uh, I, I have a hard, like,
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people wanna see a winner.
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Like when I was at school, they would come to me
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and ask me like, Hey, how can we get more of the students
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to come to the football games?
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I'm like, put a winner on the field.
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Win games, , you'll get, you'll get people to come.
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I, I do think that people are so bought into
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what Signi is doing.
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Uh, they're so bought into all of our, um, I,
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I, I don't think, I don't think we're gonna drop off even
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if we don't have the season.
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I mean, obviously the first time
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is always gonna be the greatest.
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Um, but I don't think we're going anywhere.
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And I don't think our fan base is gonna fall.
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I mean, if, you know, if you lose, I,
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they might, I don't, I don't,
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I don't think we're gonna go anywhere.
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I mean, we would have to tank so bad and go like, oh and two
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or, or, or, you know, oh, not,
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not win any games for people not to show up.
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I do think that could happen.
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I mean, people have a short memory span.
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Coaches get fired left and right.
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I mean, you see it with the Colts.
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If we're not doing great, sometimes attendance falls.
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Um, but think, well,
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The difference is the Colts doesn't make any adjustments.
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But that's a comment for, for another day
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As a Colts fan and a USC alum,
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if you guys need some advice on how
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to disappoint really quickly, , uh, those are two programs
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that could teach you something. Mm. You
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Should really lean into the life
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Lessons
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We can just go to you for, for life disappointment advice.
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I mean, so Clayton Anderson is,
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is not the spokesperson for IU football.
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Uh, I want to get into a little bit about you, um, and,
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and what is on the horizon.
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You mentioned how this song Indiana came out 20 years ago,
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I guess 20 plus years ago, , um, since then you've had,
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you've had some, some bangers like Tennessee, I mean,
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it's another state, but this Yeah. ,
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Tennessee, take me Down. Incredible song.
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You talked about how you opened for Kenny Chesney,
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like your career trajectory has, has kind of been like,
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there's been these, these massive momentum shifts
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and then not the quite right group or opportunity
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or label or whatever, right?
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And then it's another peak
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and it's kind of this stair stepping journey.
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So, so where are you at in that now?
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And, and, you know, what do you think is is on the horizon?
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You know, I'm a I'm a totally
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independent artist right now.
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I mostly have been my entire life.
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I got caught in a record deal scenario, but I'm out of that.
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Um, I, you know, I've, I've kind of been trying
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to put together a plan of how do we do this?
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I think with the internet, you know, we can,
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you can reach millions.
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It's gonna take, I'm gonna have to try to rally everyone up.
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I mean, I've been so supported by mainly Indiana people,
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you know, that, that have known me.
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Um, once I go outside of that, the further away I go, the,
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the less people know about me.
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But yeah, it's, it's just been a constant battle and, and,
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and you're always hitting, when I get to that peak,
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then it's like, oh, I hit a ceiling
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and then I can't get above that.
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So I'm always trying to push through, trying to, just trying
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to get somebody to listen to my songs.
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I mean, like, it's cool when
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that cool when somebody wants you to play a cover song,
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but I'd, I'd really rather you listen to my original songs,
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that that actually means something to me.
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And it's, it's frustrating. I'm not gonna lie.
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It's frustrating as crap.
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I know I can entertain with anybody else.
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It's just I haven't got, I I didn't get that slot
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or opportunity in the machine of Nashville to have that.
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You know? I mean, Scott Boto was backstage at the
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500 show we played.
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I played way better than his artist did.
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And I'm like sitting there trying to challenge him
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to a go-kart race to try to get a record deal.
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You know? I'm like, what can I do to, to win? Huge
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Job, man.
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Yeah, I had it. I, I went at it.
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He wasn't amused, but I, I tried.
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Um, so right now, right now, at the age that I'm at, um,
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I'm no young pup anymore, so I'm trying
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to push all my chips in.
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The crazy thing that I have right now is, it's so dumb.
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I haven't changed. I'm still the same person I was
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2, 5, 6 years ago.
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But we have a successful bar downtown Clayton's
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Country bar that's rocking.
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So people are really super interested and pumped in that.
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Um, ESPN playing Indiana all
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of a sudden got everybody even more fired up for it.
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It's like, man, I've, I've been begging you to use the song.
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Like, so I gotta push all my chips in,
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call all in all my favors of anybody knowing the industry.
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Um, there's a guy in Nashville that, uh, uh,
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that I, he used to be president of IndyCar.
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I would love to have him help manage me.
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It's about phone calls in this business,
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it's about relationships.
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It's about, I mean, I would love to go on tour
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with John Mellencamp and his world tour that's coming up,
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but I need somebody to work his manager to, you know,
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get John to agree to it.
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There's so many different levels to it, you know?
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And, and, and that's what we make the most fans
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by going out and playing a show.
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I've always tried to stay tight with IndyCar,
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with dirt track racing, with all that stuff,
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because it's such a great fan base.
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And I think music goes hand in hand with racing, especially
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some country music stuff, um, on certain demographics.
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But it's always about trying to find a new fan
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and somebody to listen to you and watch you.
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And, and we, we do better live than anything else.
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It, it's funny, man. I mean, just listening to that sort
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of story and the trajectory
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and the, the roller coaster of it all, like, there's
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so many parallels to being a driver as well, right?
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We're in, in both of our businesses, we're independents
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that are trying to find that opportunity, find that,
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you know, that time when you get discovered
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or like you really blow up.
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And, um, I, I'm, I'm curious if, you know, with,
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with Indiana being used by ESPN now, I mean
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that's exposed you to a, a national audience,
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a very passionate national audience.
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I mean, have you started to see like, immediately some
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after effects of that and,
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and have, you know, do we think that this is kind
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of now the unofficial anthem of the school
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and it's gonna play on every Hosiers game next year? I
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Sure hope so.
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I mean, the Shazams have been out.
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I mean, the Shazams was trending, uh, in, I I think that's
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Awesome.
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Yeah. So that was really cool, um, to see that,
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that means it's, that means somebody liked it enough
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to either rewind the dang TV and Shazam it or something.
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So that was amazing. Or Streams have really
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went up on the song.
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So that's been incredible. So it, it is definitely working.
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Here's the hard part. How do we, um, talking about
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how do we keep Indiana football?
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Are the fan base gonna stay with it or whatever.
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So now it's up to me to try to figure out, you know,
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keep pushing the song, keep pushing other songs.
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We we're gonna do other things
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and I'm gonna start releasing new music,
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but how do we, how do we just keep growing it, get on,
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get on board with our thing.
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It's not, it's not about just music anymore.
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You know, it's about lifestyle
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and even you guys, you know, it's like,
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like it's not just about the racing anymore.
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People wanna see all these different facets
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of you on social media.
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Like, I love, I love Rossi's, gosh dang accidental.
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I, I think it was accidental.
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The, the, um, oh gosh, the best chicken and dumplings.
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What's the Cracker Barrel? Cracker
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Barrel. Cracker Barrel, yeah. Yeah,
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I love it.
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I mean, that was so awesome and so genuine and, and yeah,
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and, and organic.
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So I, I gotta find a way just to keep telling our story
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and, you know, being a part of getting to go
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to get big shoot, getting to go
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and be a part of IndyCar races, getting
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to be out here in Phoenix, although I'm dragging butt right
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now, but like, getting to be at this dirt track race.
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And if we can win over a few hundred fans tonight, man,
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it's worth, worth being out here
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on an hour and a half sleep.
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So a, as an artist, is, is the songwriting part of it
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enjoyable, or is that kind of like a, a burden that you have
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to like, get through in order to,
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to continually have new music and, and play fresh stuff?
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Or is it something that you truly enjoy
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sitting down and going through that process?
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I, I think it's pretty fun.
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Um, you know, it's, you, you take silly things that either,
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either you're, uh, a witty guy,
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like our friend Depu throws out all the time.
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Or you take you, you just take things that your friends say
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or, or, or you hear some random person say or,
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or something that made you feel like all this,
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this football game's giving me so much emotion, you know,
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it's like, and, and like, you, you, you, it's really cool.
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It's also very frustrating sometimes when
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it's not going right.
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You know, it's like you're, you, you know,
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you're sitting in a car that's really good,
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but there's just like one thing that's just off that's,
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that's keeping you, holding you back.
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So it can also be very frustrating.
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But also I think it's one of the coolest things ever.
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Like, you can craft something that means something to me,
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and it might mean something different to Tim,
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or might mean something different to Hinch,
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but it, it really bold, it brings us together, all of this
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for the same thing though.
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And I think that's the coolest part about the artist
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songwriting and, and something I've
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kind of done here recently.
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A lot of people ask me to do charity stuff,
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and instead of giving 'em some crappy t-shirt anymore,
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it's like I came up with this thing called the Gift of song
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where, and because it's, it's priceless.
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Not everyone can do it, you know, songwriting, it's hard.
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It is very, songwriting is hard.
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And so we're taking,
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we're giving these things up at auction,
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and then whoever wins gets to come to Nashville, I get
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to pay a songwriter friend
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because songwriters ain't making any money.
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Um, so it's cool to pay a songwriter friend,
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this person that gets to come down.
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We write on Music Row, they get to see what it's like
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to be a songwriter for the day,
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and they create an awesome song with us,
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which has been really cool.
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And, and, and seeing their face when we're done.
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It's like, that's, that's when,
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you know, songwriting is awesome.
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Queen is there, this is, this is kinda a weird question,
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but in any sort of arts, right?
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Whether you're a musician, whether you're an actor,
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whether you're a painter, whatever, like that's,
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that arts are a tough business to, to make a living in.
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It's a, it's a tough gig.
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And there are, you know, the peaks, you know, there's the,
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the, the heroes of yours that are doing X, Y, Z.
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And it, it'd be so cool to be at that level,
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but at the same time, you know,
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you are a career musician like you
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are, that that's your job.
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You're not waiting tables at Clayton's Country Bar,
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you're not slinging beers, right?
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Like you have managed sometimes Yeah.
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To make a Well, yeah, but that's just for fun, , right?
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That's just because, you know, the, the,
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the bartenders were busy, so he just goes back there
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and gets his own, uh, which we benefit from sometimes.
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So thank you. Um,
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but no, I mean, there's gotta be a sense of pro.
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I know there's, look, humans are so, uh, annoying
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and we're never satisfied,
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and we always kind of like want the next thing
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and want the bigger thing and whatever,
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but do you ever get that,
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that feeling sometimes laying in bed where you're like, man,
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I, I kind of did it and I'm doing it.
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Like, I moved to India in 2009.
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You are like the first artist I heard of from Indianapolis,
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and you've been, you've been in everything
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that I've seen in Indianapolis
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for the last, you know, 20 years.
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Uh, almost. You've got this staying power
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and is it, you know, are you selling out arenas in,
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in Rio de Janeiro?
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Not yet. But like, you've had an incredible career.
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You managed to be a musician,
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be a performer for that amount of time.
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There's gotta be some kind of, some kind of pride in that.
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Yeah. I, I appreciate that. Thank you.
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Um, yeah, it, it is, it's, uh, you know, I, I don't have
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to work a factory job.
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I, I've, I get to, I get to do this my entire, you know,
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this is my full-time job.
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It's, it's frustrating, but, you know, and,
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and there's, I was always so nervous about it
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and like, you know, there's no guarantee for tomorrow.
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I, I'm a gig player, like at the,
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the entrepreneurial rollercoaster.
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But, but that happens for everyone, you know? Mm-hmm .
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And getting the big friends, you guys, I get to see this,
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that side of the sport
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and the stressfulness of our friends trying
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to make sure they got a ride they gotta seat the next year.
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Um, and, and it's,
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and it's not always on talent, you know,
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just like the music thing.
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It's, it's not always on that, on that side of it.
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Uh, I, I get, I get bummed sometimes
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because I don't have that,
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but, um, here lately with some life changes
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and different things, I've really just become more
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comfortable being me and enjoying what I have
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and being a lot more thankful for it.
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And it's funny because,
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and that's just been recently, probably last fall, um,
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because 2025 started out the worst year ever.
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And it turned into one of my best years I've ever had.
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And I think by focusing on what I don't have,
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by not focusing on that, but focusing on what I do have
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and being thankful for it, it's allowed me to grow and,
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and have, have a lot different opportunities.
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Listen, man, love that. I, I think, I think there's
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so much relatability to that.
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I think you're absolutely right that it's not specific
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to the industry that you chose.
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Um, it's, it's humanity, right?
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It's, it's what we're all, you all are driven by
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one of one of two things, right?
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It's either the fear of, of failure
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or it's the success that you're, you're currently enjoying.
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But it's, it's nothing in between.
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Um, I don't wanna take up, I don't, none
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of us wanna take up too much of your time considering you
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have a voice you need to save.
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We want you to get a nap in before you
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show
, um, because you got, you got fans to win over.
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But I would be remiss if I didn't ask.
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I mean, I know the answer, but our viewers Dunno the answer.
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Um, Clayton Anderson's top three country songs.
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Songs, this goes songs.
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But I assume they're gonna be country of all time.
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Yeah. Of all time.
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Oh man, I tell you
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what they change daily, you know, but, um,
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I'm assuming a lot of Abba Well, you're talking about,
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Oh my gosh.
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I mean, I, I don't know how many times I sang Fernando last
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night, uh, down in Fort Lauderdale, the stars.
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The stars, I don't even know the words,
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but by golly I was letting a rip, you know?
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Um, that's definitely on, that's,
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that's making my Spotify top, uh,
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rap thing next year for sure.
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Right? , I'm a John, I'm, I'm, I love John Mellencamp.
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I think Pink Houses has always
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been one of my favorite songs.
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Should have been a Cowboy
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by Toby Keith is up there in my top three songs.
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And if I was going to play
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one more song right now, if I had the guitar, I would say
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I was always enamored with Johnny Cash and,
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and Folsom Prison Blues, you know,
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that, that would be, there you go.
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I could go on and on. I mean, shoot. Ask me tomorrow.
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They might be a little different.
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00:22:39.275 --> 00:22:40.325
Well, what's funny is Tim
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doesn't know any of those songs. , I know
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All those songs.
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Oh, yeah. I'm from Indiana .
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There's a mural of John Mellencamp, uh, in Seymour, Indiana
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where my grandparents are.
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00:22:51.345 --> 00:22:53.045
That's nickname growing up was Beco.
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I mean, he's a, he's a Mellencamp guy.
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Seymour Indiana, famous for two things,
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Gianni Cougar Mellencamp,
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and the Last City
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to still have a victory over Japan Day parade.
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They stopped in 2020 because of COVID. Hmm. No
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Kidding.
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Wow. Wow. Oh
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Man.
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That's a bit of knowledge I did not know
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and almost kind of wish I didn't have.
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Yeah. But, um, there you go.
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You learned something today, folks.
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Um, Clayton, look man, congratulations on a great season.
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Congratulations on a great year, personally, uh,
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some exciting stuff in your personal life too.
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But I was wondering if, like,
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maybe just one quick little verse of Indiana to send us off.
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I know you're tired, I know your voice is gone,
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but like the people need to hear it, man. Yeah,
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Indiana, come on.
579
00:23:39.275 --> 00:23:41.885
What you know about softball? I don't know. Oh man.
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00:23:41.925 --> 00:23:44.485
I am gonna have to get this voice warmed up. Oh my God.
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Nobody's gonna listen to me sounding like that.
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00:23:48.585 --> 00:23:52.765
Oh man, Indiana. No.
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00:23:53.225 --> 00:23:55.245
Hey, thank you guys for having me on
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and thanks for being my buddies
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and I appreciate it very much
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and looking forward to, uh,
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00:24:00.945 --> 00:24:02.965
the IndyCar season firing up. Hell
588
00:24:02.965 --> 00:24:03.965
Yeah, man.
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Enjoy Phoenix, get home safe,
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00:24:05.185 --> 00:24:06.765
and, uh, we'll see you very soon.
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We'll probably see you on Saturday, actually,
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So, yeah.
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Bye, God. We got a, we got a parade in Bloomington.
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We, I gotta go now.
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We all gotta go. I wish I'll be,
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I'll be down in Florida waving and thanking you guys,
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00:24:17.705 --> 00:24:19.725
but, uh, thanks again for coming on everybody.
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Check out Clayton Anderson's music. It's fire, it's awesome.
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It's now basically a theme song for IU
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and for the state of Indiana.
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Thanks again for coming on, buddy. Appreciate you.
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00:24:29.845 --> 00:24:33.165
Alright. See you guys.
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