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This is off track.
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Hello. Hello. And welcome to Off Track
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with Hinch or Rossi today.
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Uh, just me, not even any Tim, which is great,
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but I'm joined by my good buddy,
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will Buxton. Hello. Will.
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Hello? Uh, hello. Hinch. You're up there.
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Yeah, you're, that's true.
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You're right, you're right there.
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Uh, as we record, it's what, Monday Post Elkhart? Yes.
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Post Road America. Um,
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and we are both biting time in our hotel rooms
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before we head off to our respective planes.
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To the same place actually. Yeah. But on different planes.
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Weirdly enough, I'm going to Milwaukee to fly to Chicago
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to fly to London.
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And you are going to Chicago to fly
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to Boston. To fly to London,
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Correct?
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Yeah. The world's a weird place. Yeah.
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But hey, technology, ain't it? Grand.
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Um, look, I, we've been wanting to have you on
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for a couple weeks and so I apologize
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for the slight delay in this, but That's
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Okay. We've been quite busy.
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We have been a little busy.
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Um, and the, the main reason for it was, you know,
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we had you all, you had, you know, you
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and t Bell on obviously when the announcement was made
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that we were all going to Fox.
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And, you know, one of the things I think a lot
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of people were talking to you about
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and asking you about was
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what are you most looking forward to?
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And you were getting
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to experience your very first Indie 500 Race day Yeah.
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On the ground. And you got to do it from
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the power position of lead commentator, , seeing it
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for the first time, which is quite, uh,
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quite something, quite something special.
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So I kind of wanted to just do a bit of a month of May recap
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and see what it was like for you in this new role going
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through the greatest month in racing. So now that the
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Hangover is over,
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Right. Now that we've had, we've gotten through Detroit,
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we've had our weekend off, we're back racing
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and everything's all, all well and good.
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But let's, I mean, let's start right at the beginning
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because you know, as you mentioned,
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you have watched the 500, you know, a lot.
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You're, you're a fan of the sport. You always have been.
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You've been to Qualifying Weekend,
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but first time doing the race itself.
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Yeah. First time being there through all the practice.
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What kind of pre-me prep, like explain the level
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of pre-me research that you did.
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Um,
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A lot like , , I mean, you know, I have, I have folders
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and folders and folders.
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Um, but for the 500 I was just, I was just handwriting notes
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for weeks and weeks and weeks.
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And, and that meant going all the way through to the start,
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like literally to when the circuit was built in 1909.
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So I did everything like down to, as, as even made it
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to the broadcast, like the mathematical formula
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that they used to design the circuit.
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You know? So, you know, I had like reams
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of information on the history of the pagoda
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and the number of times it had been rebuilt or burnt down
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or all of those things, you know, not to mention, uh,
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you know, what had happened every year and every race winner
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and the interesting facts that had happened in those races,
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just to try and, you know, lock it all in.
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Um, 'cause so much of what I, I knew about Formula One
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and know about Formula One had had kind of come in
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by osmosis, but this was very much a, you know, I had
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to learn it and I had to sort of get it to go in.
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So it was all, it was all handwritten.
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Um, but it was great
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'cause when, when you were doing, um, the test,
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when you're doing the open test and you
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and Alan were kind of like having discussions
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and I was like texting you through it
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and you were like, who's the Italian winner? And I'm like,
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I'm like with Corrections . And
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I'm like, I know this one, I know this one.
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I've researched this.
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And you were like, how do you know that?
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And I'm like, today I've been doing pre-war research
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and you were like, God's sake man.
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Um, so yeah, fun things.
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And you know, I never got to bring out my favorite,
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my favorite nugget, uh, for the 500, which was the link
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between the Indie 500
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and James Bond, which was the, in 1932 count,
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Louis Roski raced, um, and Za Broski was the designer
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and driver of Chili Chili Bang Bang,
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which was an actual car.
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Okay. And Chi Chi Bang Bang was written by Ian Fleming
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who also wrote, but the fascinating thing as well is that,
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is that Z Broski was married to, uh, a member
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of the Asta family, thus giving him a link
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to the Asta Challenge Cup.
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So I, dude, you know, me,
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I just nerded out over all detailed big time.
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Yeah. And big time. Loved it. It was great.
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But that's the thing, I mean, over, what do we do,
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36 hours of practice or something like that, you know,
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I think, I think we figured out by the end of the month
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and maybe we'd done 80 hours on air if you'd tot it up,
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indie GP and practice and qualifying
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and Brace Day, it was like, it was like 80 hours.
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That sounds like a lot. Yeah.
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But yeah, that's feels like about what we did.
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Uh, so why, why handwriting for you?
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Does that just like help lock it in more than,
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you know, typing it out?
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Yeah. Or just reading it on a, you
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Know, oh, totally.
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There's, there's something in the physical aspect
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of writing it and it kind of took, took me back
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to like being at college and handwriting notes.
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And then I used to write over the top of the notes
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and keep writing of like five, six times
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until it kind of went in.
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So yeah, I dunno, it's like, yeah, back
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to being a teenager again and, uh,
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and just handwriting all of my, all of my notes.
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But it, it, it seems to go in, um,
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and then, you know, once the race starts you just,
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you're just in the moment.
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Um, but the whole experience was amazing.
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And actually doing the NDGP was really helpful
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because you get the lay of the land
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and you know where you are and where,
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and when someone says, be here at this time,
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or, you know, you've got a, you've got a, a 10:00 AM you,
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wherever it might be, you know, you, you know
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where the compound is, you know where the pagoda is.
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You know, if someone says you've gotta be here at a, you,
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you know, the fact that Yeah.
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Garage N 34. Yeah.
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Yeah. And, and the fact that it's a very different layout
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that there are the, the physical garages there
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and you know where everyone's going to be.
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So that was really, really helpful as well.
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So, you know, we go into practice week
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and everyone had prepped you
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that practice week is this like slog of,
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of a week from a television standpoint.
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Uh, we, we survived it, but I mean, first I really
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Enjoyed it.
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Say your first six hour day in the booth of, you know,
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four or five know six consecutive
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or whatever it was that we did.
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Yeah. By the end of day one,
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were you still like, oh, this is great.
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Yeah. Or were you like, that was a lot of talking. Uh,
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There was a lot of rain on day one,
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so we kind of, we had, well that's true.
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We had lots of delays,
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but, um, it was like F1 testing, you know, and I Yeah, I
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Remember you said that.
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And I always really enjoyed those broadcasts
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because they, it, it's really kind of like light and fun
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and, you know, day one, I missed my lunch break
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because nobody told me I was supposed to be going
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to lunch at that point.
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And by that point I'd missed my window.
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'cause Townsend wanted to go and take his lunch,
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and then you need to go and do yours.
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And I was like, well, I might as well just stay here now,
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um, and eat Twinkies. Uh, so
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so with whistles in them. Yes, exactly.
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So, um, I love that.
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And then, you know, day two, day three, same kind of thing.
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It's just, it's so nice just to have that,
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that looseness and that freedom.
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And I guess for us in the booth as well, you know,
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it reps are so important
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and that month of May was the first time that we'd had
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so much time together because the early part
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of the season was really disjointed.
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We'd, we'd have a weekend
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and then we'd have almost a month off
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and then another weekend and then almost a month off.
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And, you know, it's,
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it's way better if you can just keep the reps going
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so you learn consistently
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and day to day you can make the changes
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and, and make it better.
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Um, so, you know, practice is practice,
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whether it's cars on track,
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or whether it's us in the booth, you know, every, every lap,
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every minute on air is, is important in terms of, you know,
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getting the setup. Right.
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It, it's funny because we interviewed David Lucas on this
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show last week, I think.
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And uh, you know, one
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of the things we were talking about was how there was this,
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and you know, I think we even
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mentioned it on, on the broadcast.
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Yeah. You know, this, this weekend, this, which was coming
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to that team with the form they had at the end of last year
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with David's, you know, stock where it was,
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everyone was kind of expecting him to step in
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and immediately be in that sort
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of fighting in the top tens pace.
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And the first few weekends were kind of a struggle.
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They were disappointing from a results standpoint,
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even from a general speed standpoint.
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But his point was, you know, we always said that once we get
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through May, that's when it'll start hitting.
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Because in May you spend an entire month locked in the same
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garage, but these guys, and you get so much face time,
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you get so much working time, so many reps, like you say,
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that it all sort of hits.
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And for us in the booth, it's,
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it's sort of a similar situation.
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Yeah. Right. I mean, three of us are new working together.
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A lot of the people behind the scenes are new,
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working either together or new working in IndyCar
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or hadn't done a 500.
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So a lot of people were kind
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of going through that same sort of thing.
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So we get through practice
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and then comes qualifying weekend.
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Yeah. Which you had been part of before,
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but I mean, tell me, you could feel the
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emotion and the tension
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and the stress
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that is qualifying weekend from this position. So
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This, this is gonna sound really weird,
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but, um, I think qualifying is, is it's,
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it's probably my favorite weekend in racing.
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Um, those two days. It's not weird at all.
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And, and I, and I think honestly like
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on a par maybe even more enjoyable than the 500 itself
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because the jeopardy is so high.
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And I love the, the stick or twist nature of it.
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The fact that everyone's trying to improve or, or,
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or having that balance of, well,
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I think I'm just about, okay.
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And actually a P 15 is pretty good, so I'm just going
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to, to stay there.
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And even if I drop down to 18th, 19th,
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I'm still gonna be okay with that.
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Like, um, you know,
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and the fact that it was the first time with the hybrids
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and the cars were, were pretty skittish
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and we had some really big accidents from people
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who we wouldn't have normally expected it from.
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Um, that made it even more kind of on the edge.
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Um, but I love that, you know, it's,
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that was probably the longest broadcast we did as well.
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All, all month, you know,
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that is first thing in the morning till last thing at night
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and you don't stop there is, you know,
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we were literally in an ad break running to the toilet,
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running back Yeah.
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And headset on just in time. Welcome back.
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You know, it's like, it was, yeah.
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It's, it, it's so intense, you know?
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And we're getting food sent up to the booth
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and we're sitting there literally just like two, you know,
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two bites of a hamburger before we come back on again.
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And I loved that. That was really, really fun.
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What what was so funny for me is I was, uh, you know,
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like you, you end those days, right?
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They're marathon days. Yeah. They're exhausting.
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'cause you're mentally, you've gotta be on
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that whole time you're talking that whole time.
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You've gotta be engaging that whole time
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and then you get home and you're just absolutely exhausted.
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But then I was looking at my phone
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and I was looking at like, the pedometer on my phone
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and how many steps I'd taken, and it's like, yeah.
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I'm like, oh, I'm absolutely wrecked.
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I wonder how much walking around I did today.
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And then you're like, wait a minute. I
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sat in a booth all day.
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It's like, you've done 2,400 steps today. It's like, that's
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Not even, it's not that's horrendous.
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Like you've done done 1500 or like, like thousand
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Steps.
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You zero physical activity. Yeah.
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But you're just absolutely exhausted,
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Wiped, like, absolutely wiped.
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Um, and do you know, it was, it was really, it was one
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of the, the, the mad things about that as well was, um,
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my wife and and daughter came out for the month
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of May as, as, as you know.
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'cause um, we, we spent a lot of time together, uh, in May.
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Um, but her parents came out as well just to kind of help
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with the transition to America.
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And they were there for the first two month,
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uh, weeks of the month.
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And then as soon as everything
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for the 500 started, they went home.
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And it was really weird
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because suddenly that was the point at which I was
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gone every day, right.
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From, from like six in the morning till like
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seven, 8:00 PM at night.
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I was, I was out, I was, I was at track
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and then getting home and just dead.
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So for those two weeks, that's probably the weeks when she
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needed her parents there more than the first two weeks.
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Right. Um, lessons
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Learned.
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Yeah. Very, very definitely. Um, a lesson learned.
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But, uh, no man like that, that week of just the intensity
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of practice and still not really knowing who was
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where going into, into qualifying.
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Um, and then rolling into the Sunday
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and the, the storylines that hit then, you know,
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Penske being kicked out, um, the,
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the Dale Coin drivers having a knock on another out, um,
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Schwartzman like getting Paul.
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And that was, for me, that was really emotional as well.
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'cause I, I know Robert really, really well
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and I know the premier guys really, really well.
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And yeah, you know, similarly, you know,
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people ask me at the start of the season, you know,
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how, how do you think it's going?
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And I, I kind of compared my journey to premise's journey in
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that it's all very new and it's all completely different.
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And, you know, I've set myself on fire a couple of times,
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like, you know, like, like Robert's car did at Thermal.
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And, and there there have been
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a, there have been some highs.
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There have been some, some lows about a couple of races
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that I've, you know, crashed out.
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But, um, you know, it's, it's kind of that, that
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that period of learning.
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And, but watching Robert do it and knowing his story
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and knowing, you know, the emotions behind that,
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and then being able to go and do an
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interview with him afterwards.
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And we're both new kids on the block.
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And yeah, here we are both about
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to go into our first 500 together in that kind
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of prominent role, him on Pole and Me
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and to do, to lead comms.
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It was, um, there was something really lovely about that,
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that that really just resonated with me.
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It was, it was really nice.
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It's someone a bit poetic about it all. Yeah.
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Um,
So I just wanna backtrack.
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It has to have, you mentioned that the Penske drama
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as someone in this role, right?
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Yeah. And in this role for the first time at the 500
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is something like that, is some sort of controversy.
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Like, does the journalist in you kind of like, love
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that there's a, a story to dive into?
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Or would you rather for your first time not have had
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something quite so dramatic and polarizing happen? I'm,
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I'm actually really glad that we did
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because, um, we set out our stall in
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that moment of we are not gonna skirt around it yet.
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We, we are new to this and we need to be,
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you know, playing the game.
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And, and we don't wanna upset anybody
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or annoy anybody, especially when, you know,
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they kind of thing run, they're under series.
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Um, but at the same time, you have a responsibility.
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You have a journalistic responsibility not just
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to tell people what's going on,
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but to be very honest about it
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and to come at it fairly, um,
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but from, from all angles and, and bring it in.
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And I think we did that. And, you know, we, we,
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the discussions we were having off mic during that point,
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you know, we, the folks won't at home won't know this,
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but, you know, Tim Cindrich was, was ready
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and available to talk.
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And we made the decision then
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that we weren't gonna have him on air
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until we'd heard from Rocket about, about
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what had been found.
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Because we were all adamant journalistically, yourself, me,
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Townsend, you know, we made
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that decision on the flight in the booth.
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No, we have to hear the prosecution
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before we hear the defense.
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Right. And I think that was,
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that was absolutely the right way to go.
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And then, you know, and then,
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and then Tim sort of, you know, said what he said
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and I think we would then right.
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To also call that out
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and say, you know, it wasn't arbitrary.
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It's his black and white.
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So, you know, this is where we're at.
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Um, I hope we dealt with that.
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I think we dealt with it well.
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Um, I hope the fans thought that we dealt with it well.
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Um, and that we didn't skirt around it.
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You know, we, we did ask the questions and we,
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and we have continued to ask those questions, um, uh,
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as the season's gone on, uh, no matter what it is, you know,
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whether it's race control
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or whether it's, you know, the, the officiating
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or the the scrutineering.
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Um, yeah, I think that's,
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I think that's really, really important.
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'cause you set your stall out early
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and say, no, we're gonna, we're gonna do this properly.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely.
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Um, I want now to move on to the highlight of the month.
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The big show itself, the weenie 500 on Carb Day. Oh
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mate,
, I really hoped you were gonna go there.
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Uh, Yes. Forever
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Do, I mean forever. That will give
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My first Oval race
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That's a, that's a great point.
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Um,
That's a great point.
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I just love the fact
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that we kind of knew nothing about Yeah.
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I don't know, I don't even remember if we've talked about
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this on the show yet or not, but like we knew very little.
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We heard nothing about it until like
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a week and a half before.
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And we only kind of started getting details like 48 hours
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before this was happening.
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We weren't sure exactly what we were calling,
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what was really happening.
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Well, the tone of what we were supposed to be doing.
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Pam, our producer,
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had been really excited about it for a while.
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And I think we all kind of thought, it's not gonna happen.
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Like this is, this is just right.
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You were like, Roger's, Roger's not gonna let this
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Happen.
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This, this isn't gonna fly. And um,
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and Pam's like, no, this is gonna be great.
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It's gonna be really, um, and we were like, okay, cool.
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And then I don't think we realized the scale of, of
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what it was gonna be and that it was actually gonna
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be a race broadcast.
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And I remember getting to the platform with you and Townsend
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and we were just kind of huddling
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and we went, right, we've got
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to do this absolutely straight.
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Like right if, 'cause
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'cause if we, if we goof around with this, it's,
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it's gonna be too goofy and it's it,
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you know, play it straight.
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And it was, it was so the right thing to do
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because it, it was just, it was so fun and, um,
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and, and play it.
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And there were moments where by playing it straight,
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we were almost all, uh, you know, in just fits of laughter
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and trying to hold it together. Yeah. Um,
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I mean, if you re-watch that broadcast pretty much anytime
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there was silence of more than five Seconds, it's
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because the three of us are all just trying to not laugh,
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Gone like absolutely gone.
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Um, and
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You and your slippery wieners in turn three. Yeah.
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And, and, and Wow. You know? Yeah.
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And, and, and, but just all of it,
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You know, people, people will ask me, oh, you know, so,
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you know, the first oval you ever called was the Indie 500.
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And I'll be like, funny story actually , it was
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Foid six giant hot dogs.
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Um, I love the fact that, you know,
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because the Pacers were, were, were playing that week.
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The New York dog got booed, uh, every time around.
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But mate, honestly, like the way the fans reacted to it
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as well at the track, there was 70,000
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people there for Carb Day.
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Right. And the genuine cheer, uh,
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was just, there was something beautiful about it.
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It was so silly and it was so innocent and,
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and just so wonderful.
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Um, I loved,
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and do you know what I'll completely, honestly, you know,
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I've been a Formula One races where there hasn't been that,
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that noise of, of cheering for a driver over the line.
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Right, right. As there was the weenie 500.
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Like it was, yeah, it was nuts.
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And I think it, kids loved it. The broadcast was fun.
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It kind of went viral 'cause it went, it went everywhere.
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We got on Sports Center. Um, pat McCafe had it on, hi.
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I think they were watching it live, uh, on Pat McCafe show.
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Like it was, it was completely crazy.
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Um, and totally unexpected.
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I guess, you know, the question is like,
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what could we do next year? Like, like
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I know, I was just gonna say, we've used all
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of our, of our wiener jokes.
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Yeah. , willies
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Time to be back or will it
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be something completely different?
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I, I said No, but dude, the merch as well, I went into to,
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uh, one of the merch stands
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and everyone was like, with their Palolo shirt
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or their Colton Herter shirt, you know,
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they were picking up a weenie 500 shirt.
501
00:19:59.905 --> 00:20:02.285
Uh, yeah. Sold, uh, sold, sold out. Yeah.
502
00:20:02.295 --> 00:20:04.445
Completely sold out. Like it was huge,
503
00:20:04.835 --> 00:20:05.835
Huge extent.
504
00:20:05.835 --> 00:20:07.845
And so I thought, 'cause we caught in the stands, a bunch
505
00:20:07.845 --> 00:20:10.085
of people wearing like the hot dog costume,
506
00:20:10.235 --> 00:20:12.205
like the full body hotdog costume.
507
00:20:12.655 --> 00:20:13.885
Shout out to the Simpson sister
508
00:20:13.885 --> 00:20:15.805
or Katie Simpson and her sister.
509
00:20:16.345 --> 00:20:19.525
Um, and I assumed they were selling these at the track.
510
00:20:19.755 --> 00:20:21.405
Okay. 'cause I'm like, that would make sense. Yeah.
511
00:20:21.585 --> 00:20:24.125
No, no, I learned 'cause friends of ours were wearing them.
512
00:20:24.185 --> 00:20:25.485
I'm like, no, no. They went out
513
00:20:25.585 --> 00:20:29.525
and like premeditated got these suits with the intention
514
00:20:29.545 --> 00:20:31.325
of wearing them for the weenie fight.
515
00:20:31.345 --> 00:20:33.845
People were looking like they were amped up about it.
516
00:20:33.985 --> 00:20:37.205
And the anthem, the hands over your stomachs.
517
00:20:38.255 --> 00:20:41.655
I wish so good.
518
00:20:41.675 --> 00:20:44.935
But you know what's really weird for me now is so, um,
519
00:20:45.045 --> 00:20:46.575
back home again in, in Indiana.
520
00:20:46.805 --> 00:20:51.205
Like I, 'cause it's my first time, like I heard the, when I,
521
00:20:51.205 --> 00:20:54.005
when I try and sing it, I can sing the first line
522
00:20:54.005 --> 00:20:55.325
of back home again in Indiana.
523
00:20:55.465 --> 00:20:56.525
But the second line
524
00:20:57.255 --> 00:20:57.605
Morph
525
00:20:59.115 --> 00:21:03.365
Song, it's
526
00:21:03.365 --> 00:21:04.365
Too good.
527
00:21:04.365 --> 00:21:05.885
That's too funny. All right.
528
00:21:06.305 --> 00:21:09.725
Uh, did you sleep well Saturday night before the race?
529
00:21:10.145 --> 00:21:15.055
Um, yeah. Yeah. I, I, I,
530
00:21:15.215 --> 00:21:18.415
I You felt good, felt prepared, yeah.
531
00:21:18.515 --> 00:21:19.695
Did sleep well. Um,
532
00:21:19.995 --> 00:21:21.455
But I don't think I will next year
533
00:21:22.315 --> 00:21:25.045
because I didn't know what I was getting into.
534
00:21:26.065 --> 00:21:28.605
You don't know what you don't know. Ignorance is bliss.
535
00:21:28.665 --> 00:21:31.565
I'm Robert Schwartzman. Dunno what you dunno. , right?
536
00:21:32.035 --> 00:21:34.925
Yeah. Um, no, uh, I had no idea.
537
00:21:35.345 --> 00:21:40.085
And, um, I was more nervous about the pre-race
538
00:21:40.275 --> 00:21:45.205
show because we've got, you know, we have our normal setup
539
00:21:45.205 --> 00:21:46.445
that we take to every race weekend.
540
00:21:46.465 --> 00:21:50.275
But for the 500 there was, you know, four times,
541
00:21:50.645 --> 00:21:52.115
Three setups and
Yeah.
542
00:21:52.115 --> 00:21:55.715
Yeah. The amount of trucks and a green room and more staff
543
00:21:56.055 --> 00:22:00.195
and you know, bill Richards who, you know, directs the,
544
00:22:00.335 --> 00:22:02.435
the Super Bowl and all of that.
545
00:22:02.435 --> 00:22:05.115
And these guys were, you know, it was big time
546
00:22:05.295 --> 00:22:07.915
and a huge investment and I was more, you know,
547
00:22:07.915 --> 00:22:11.595
and Chris Meyers like one of the best in the business and,
548
00:22:11.695 --> 00:22:12.995
and he's hosting one desk
549
00:22:12.995 --> 00:22:14.075
and I've gotta host the other desk.
550
00:22:14.075 --> 00:22:16.755
And it's like, okay, don't <inaudible> this up.
551
00:22:17.055 --> 00:22:20.155
Um, so that's, that was big pressure.
552
00:22:20.155 --> 00:22:21.355
That was the biggest pressure for me
553
00:22:21.455 --> 00:22:22.515
was, was going into that.
554
00:22:22.515 --> 00:22:27.115
Yeah. And, and honestly, like, that was my, my real kind
555
00:22:27.115 --> 00:22:30.035
of thought process that morning was get through that
556
00:22:31.175 --> 00:22:33.995
and then like, sell into the race.
557
00:22:34.815 --> 00:22:37.195
You gotta think of it, like, think of it as, you know,
558
00:22:37.195 --> 00:22:41.075
for, for people listening, it's the, the pre-race show is a,
559
00:22:41.135 --> 00:22:43.475
is a scripted feature length film.
560
00:22:43.545 --> 00:22:46.595
Yeah. Right. But live, so think the the,
561
00:22:46.775 --> 00:22:49.395
the pre-show is like a, like a live piece of theater.
562
00:22:49.395 --> 00:22:51.475
Yeah. Right? Like, go and see a play.
563
00:22:51.615 --> 00:22:53.355
You gotta hit your marks, you gotta hit your timing.
564
00:22:53.355 --> 00:22:56.115
Like we've got commercial, everything is to the second.
565
00:22:56.695 --> 00:22:59.835
The race is a free flowing improv. Right.
566
00:22:59.905 --> 00:23:01.515
It's, it's a lot less structured
567
00:23:01.515 --> 00:23:03.315
because you're just reacting to what happens.
568
00:23:03.315 --> 00:23:06.955
Yeah. But the pre-race show is so different to what you
569
00:23:06.955 --> 00:23:10.555
and I do for most of our broadcasts throughout the year,
570
00:23:10.565 --> 00:23:12.915
which is improv and, and,
571
00:23:12.975 --> 00:23:14.675
and reacting to what you're saying. And even
572
00:23:14.735 --> 00:23:16.995
Our, you know, when we do like the warmup show
573
00:23:17.055 --> 00:23:20.595
or if we do pre-race segments, or, you know, you
574
00:23:20.595 --> 00:23:22.355
and I, we've done F1 pre-show
575
00:23:22.375 --> 00:23:25.955
and post shows for years, their improv.
576
00:23:26.465 --> 00:23:27.875
Nothing in there is scripted.
577
00:23:28.295 --> 00:23:31.995
And also not having to hit commercial breaks and Right.
578
00:23:31.995 --> 00:23:34.995
And we are Main Fox, it's a two hour show
579
00:23:35.935 --> 00:23:37.875
and you've got to hit your marks.
580
00:23:38.255 --> 00:23:39.755
And, but the weird thing is, is that
581
00:23:40.625 --> 00:23:43.795
sprinkled into the scripted elements are still moments
582
00:23:43.855 --> 00:23:45.845
of improv where you are asking questions.
583
00:23:45.845 --> 00:23:47.365
Sure. You're eliciting answers.
584
00:23:47.465 --> 00:23:49.245
You don't know what those answers are going to be.
585
00:23:49.465 --> 00:23:50.965
You have to react to those, you know,
586
00:23:50.965 --> 00:23:52.685
you've got an interview with Alex Palolo on the desk,
587
00:23:52.705 --> 00:23:54.725
you no idea how, what, what he's gonna say,
588
00:23:54.745 --> 00:23:56.005
how long his answers are gonna go,
589
00:23:56.005 --> 00:23:58.685
what he's gonna talk about, where you pick up off the back
590
00:23:58.685 --> 00:24:00.485
of what he said, and then what that leads to.
591
00:24:00.585 --> 00:24:04.245
But you've still got to get out exactly at the right time
592
00:24:04.545 --> 00:24:07.365
and lead to the next piece and look at the right camera
593
00:24:07.905 --> 00:24:10.765
and, you know, and this and that and, and, and all of it.
594
00:24:10.765 --> 00:24:12.685
So it's, it's improv and it's scripted
595
00:24:12.945 --> 00:24:16.325
and it's everything within the bubble of like,
596
00:24:16.545 --> 00:24:20.125
the most focus, the most investment as well of the year
597
00:24:20.665 --> 00:24:22.405
on this, on this huge show.
598
00:24:22.745 --> 00:24:24.885
Um, and I'd never been a part of anything like that before.
599
00:24:25.185 --> 00:24:28.405
And that was, that was huge fun. That was huge fun.
600
00:24:28.405 --> 00:24:30.205
Yeah. It was wicked. Yeah, it was great. It was fun.
601
00:24:31.035 --> 00:24:32.845
What was, this is the classic kind
602
00:24:32.845 --> 00:24:34.405
of cliche question everybody gets asked.
603
00:24:34.405 --> 00:24:35.525
What you, what was your favorite part
604
00:24:35.525 --> 00:24:36.645
of the pre-race ceremonies?
605
00:24:36.645 --> 00:24:39.205
What's your favorite element of pre-race ceremonies?
606
00:24:39.555 --> 00:24:41.535
Taps? Yeah.
607
00:24:42.125 --> 00:24:44.315
That, that really got me.
608
00:24:44.625 --> 00:24:45.635
Like, that really got,
609
00:24:45.635 --> 00:24:49.595
because I'm from a military family, uh, so that yeah.
610
00:24:49.665 --> 00:24:51.635
That the thing about that now I'm kind
611
00:24:51.635 --> 00:24:53.155
of getting a bit bit misty about it.
612
00:24:53.185 --> 00:24:55.635
That was something very, very special.
613
00:24:56.415 --> 00:25:00.405
Um, yeah, that was, that was the one for me.
614
00:25:01.105 --> 00:25:02.955
Yeah. That's, I that's a popular answer
615
00:25:02.955 --> 00:25:04.635
because it is, I mean, you've got this stadium
616
00:25:04.665 --> 00:25:06.995
with 300 plus thousand people in it and it's just
617
00:25:07.335 --> 00:25:08.115
Silent. It's
618
00:25:08.115 --> 00:25:09.115
Dead silent.
619
00:25:09.115 --> 00:25:12.795
Yeah. And it's one, one note at a time, Ugh.
620
00:25:12.825 --> 00:25:14.555
From this singular trumpet.
621
00:25:14.655 --> 00:25:17.635
But do you, it's incredible. That's so tough
622
00:25:18.295 --> 00:25:19.475
to, to to play.
623
00:25:19.475 --> 00:25:20.755
Like, you know, we have in the,
624
00:25:20.755 --> 00:25:22.955
in the UK we have the last post, which is kind of the,
625
00:25:22.975 --> 00:25:24.155
you know, our version of that.
626
00:25:24.815 --> 00:25:28.995
Um, and I, I grew up as a trumpet player, um, oh, in a way.
627
00:25:28.995 --> 00:25:32.235
Yeah. And like in, in the UK it's normally played on a bugle
628
00:25:32.235 --> 00:25:34.195
rather than on a trumpet, but it's
629
00:25:34.705 --> 00:25:37.955
because you have to change your <inaudible>
630
00:25:38.065 --> 00:25:39.555
because it's all played open.
631
00:25:39.555 --> 00:25:41.715
There's no, there's no keying on a, on a,
632
00:25:41.715 --> 00:25:43.835
on a trumpet. Um, and
633
00:25:43.975 --> 00:25:45.555
Oh, I actually don't think I've even noticed that. Yeah.
634
00:25:45.555 --> 00:25:46.795
There's no, there's no, there's no keys.
635
00:25:46.825 --> 00:25:48.595
It's all open because it was,
636
00:25:48.595 --> 00:25:51.035
because it was originally played on a bugle, a
637
00:25:51.035 --> 00:25:51.555
Bugle. Um,
638
00:25:51.585 --> 00:25:53.275
There's no, oh, wow.
639
00:25:53.345 --> 00:25:56.275
Yeah. So you, so, so every note is just a change
640
00:25:56.275 --> 00:25:57.275
of your omnisure.
641
00:25:57.335 --> 00:26:00.595
So, so how, how you pucker your lips and the amount of air
642
00:26:00.655 --> 00:26:02.995
and how tightly it's, it's the air is squeezed
643
00:26:02.995 --> 00:26:05.315
through in order to raise the pitch or lower the pitch.
644
00:26:06.055 --> 00:26:08.555
And that's why very often you'll hear the notes crack.
645
00:26:09.895 --> 00:26:12.635
Um,
Every note was just,
646
00:26:13.175 --> 00:26:14.795
it was like dead in the middle.
647
00:26:14.975 --> 00:26:18.555
It was so well played. Um, and so I also Oh, that's amazing.
648
00:26:18.555 --> 00:26:20.555
From a musical perspective, I was gonna say, yeah.
649
00:26:20.555 --> 00:26:22.675
I was appreciating it as well. But, um, yeah. Right.
650
00:26:22.675 --> 00:26:24.755
Incredible, absolutely amazing moment.
651
00:26:24.895 --> 00:26:26.955
That's, I I learned something today.
652
00:26:27.035 --> 00:26:28.795
I love that little little piece of info.
653
00:26:29.135 --> 00:26:32.675
Um, so the race happens. Yes.
654
00:26:32.715 --> 00:26:34.315
Everybody, everybody saw the race
655
00:26:34.315 --> 00:26:35.315
After a delay.
656
00:26:36.375 --> 00:26:38.235
We, yeah, eventually it was a small delay. Yeah.
657
00:26:38.235 --> 00:26:40.195
It wasn't like the, the year before, but that was,
658
00:26:40.195 --> 00:26:42.635
That was kind of fun because we kind of got into, I
659
00:26:42.665 --> 00:26:43.805
that actually kind of helped
660
00:26:43.965 --> 00:26:45.365
'cause that got us into a rhythm of,
661
00:26:45.545 --> 00:26:47.285
we got 30 minutes to fill in the booth.
662
00:26:47.945 --> 00:26:49.765
And so we were kind of like, oh,
663
00:26:49.765 --> 00:26:51.805
we're doing our own little extra pre-show now.
664
00:26:52.225 --> 00:26:54.605
Um Right. Which kind of settled everything in,
665
00:26:54.825 --> 00:26:58.405
but then yeah, then Scott goes and stacks it.
666
00:26:58.425 --> 00:27:01.565
So we're like, are we gonna get a three wide start?
667
00:27:01.565 --> 00:27:02.765
Are they gonna single file it?
668
00:27:02.765 --> 00:27:04.165
Because theoretically it's a restart
669
00:27:04.165 --> 00:27:05.885
because the race started under caution,
670
00:27:06.145 --> 00:27:07.605
but then we did get a three wide start.
671
00:27:07.705 --> 00:27:10.045
And, and then you're in like,
672
00:27:10.585 --> 00:27:11.685
And
Then you're in it's go time
673
00:27:11.985 --> 00:27:14.765
And then it goes and it, and it goes like another race.
674
00:27:14.875 --> 00:27:16.405
It's just a long race. Yeah.
675
00:27:16.705 --> 00:27:19.605
Uh, but you get through it, we have a first time winner.
676
00:27:19.705 --> 00:27:21.965
We have kind of history be made in, uh,
677
00:27:21.985 --> 00:27:23.085
in a couple different ways.
678
00:27:23.585 --> 00:27:25.605
And at the end of it all,
679
00:27:26.305 --> 00:27:27.925
Um,
What was kind
680
00:27:27.925 --> 00:27:31.285
of the overwhelming feeling when we went off air.
681
00:27:31.625 --> 00:27:32.625
So
682
00:27:34.165 --> 00:27:39.005
I am not happy on Sunday night ever.
683
00:27:39.785 --> 00:27:42.085
And you know, that, like, you know that last night ,
684
00:27:42.585 --> 00:27:45.325
you know, when, when you were, when we were having
685
00:27:45.405 --> 00:27:46.605
A, which is still insane.
686
00:27:46.625 --> 00:27:48.445
We we're still fighting about that, but okay.
687
00:27:48.445 --> 00:27:49.965
Yeah. But you know, it's, it's me.
688
00:27:50.025 --> 00:27:51.965
I'm never gonna be never gonna be happy
689
00:27:51.965 --> 00:27:53.005
with the job that I do ever.
690
00:27:53.585 --> 00:27:58.385
Um, I don't think I,
691
00:27:59.185 --> 00:28:01.705
I didn't understand it still until Monday night.
692
00:28:01.925 --> 00:28:04.385
And it was going to the celebration dinner
693
00:28:05.285 --> 00:28:07.385
and talking to all the drivers afterwards
694
00:28:07.385 --> 00:28:08.585
and actually getting to see everybody
695
00:28:09.365 --> 00:28:14.145
and the recognition that one guy and one crew are related.
696
00:28:14.805 --> 00:28:17.145
And there are 32 other crews
697
00:28:17.605 --> 00:28:21.385
and 32 other drivers who are utterly devastated.
698
00:28:22.725 --> 00:28:24.945
You know? And at that moment you're like, okay, this,
699
00:28:25.095 --> 00:28:26.905
this is way more than just a race.
700
00:28:27.525 --> 00:28:32.065
Um, and even, even the Monday morning, you know, I didn't,
701
00:28:32.985 --> 00:28:34.265
I I knew what it was about,
702
00:28:34.365 --> 00:28:36.945
but I don't think I truly got it
703
00:28:37.755 --> 00:28:40.015
until, until Monday night.
704
00:28:40.275 --> 00:28:42.375
And that's something that I will take into next year
705
00:28:42.765 --> 00:28:45.775
because the, the importance and the impact of it.
706
00:28:46.155 --> 00:28:49.335
Now, I, I, I understand that now.
707
00:28:49.475 --> 00:28:51.175
And I didn't until, and I've gotta be honest,
708
00:28:51.215 --> 00:28:52.455
I didn't until Monday night.
709
00:28:53.315 --> 00:28:56.695
It was just, and also I think, I think Sun by the end
710
00:28:56.695 --> 00:28:59.215
of Sunday, we were all just knackered.
711
00:28:59.675 --> 00:29:02.935
Um, yeah. I think I'll, I'll know how to pace myself better,
712
00:29:03.835 --> 00:29:05.695
um, next year. It's,
713
00:29:05.695 --> 00:29:06.375
It's one of the things you
714
00:29:06.375 --> 00:29:07.615
experienced as a driver too, right?
715
00:29:07.615 --> 00:29:09.295
The first time you go through the month of May,
716
00:29:09.375 --> 00:29:13.055
I think no matter what role you play in that sphere,
717
00:29:14.035 --> 00:29:16.055
by the time Sunday comes around, you're just like,
718
00:29:16.075 --> 00:29:17.775
we just want to get the race going.
719
00:29:17.885 --> 00:29:21.655
Like we're just so over all the buildup, it's time
720
00:29:21.655 --> 00:29:23.015
to just go and get going.
721
00:29:23.165 --> 00:29:26.575
Yeah. Um, and kind of the same situation for, for everyone.
722
00:29:26.605 --> 00:29:28.495
Have you watched the race broadcast back? Yeah.
723
00:29:28.765 --> 00:29:30.335
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I have, I have.
724
00:29:30.515 --> 00:29:33.615
Um, I watch everything back, you know, um,
725
00:29:34.575 --> 00:29:36.255
'cause you got to, you, you have to go through and,
726
00:29:36.355 --> 00:29:39.295
and make notes and figure out what you, what you did
727
00:29:39.295 --> 00:29:41.230
that you liked and what you did that you didn't like.
728
00:29:41.265 --> 00:29:43.445
And as always with me, there's about 98%
729
00:29:43.445 --> 00:29:44.485
that I wish I'd done differently. .
730
00:29:44.765 --> 00:29:46.925
Uh, but, you know, there you go. It is what it is.
731
00:29:47.265 --> 00:29:50.085
You know, coming into this, I was gonna ask you to kind
732
00:29:50.085 --> 00:29:52.005
of give yourself
733
00:29:52.305 --> 00:29:54.805
and then the broadcast as a whole, like a,
734
00:29:54.805 --> 00:29:56.885
like a midterm report card grade.
735
00:29:57.115 --> 00:29:58.805
Okay. But I don't even want to hear it
736
00:29:58.805 --> 00:30:01.605
because you're gonna give yourself a, a,
737
00:30:02.045 --> 00:30:05.365
a criminally low grade, which is not fair or
738
00:30:05.565 --> 00:30:06.565
Accurate.
739
00:30:06.565 --> 00:30:07.925
Yeah. I think I'd probably fail myself. I think I'm
740
00:30:07.925 --> 00:30:08.925
on
.
741
00:30:08.925 --> 00:30:10.085
You're such an idiot. You've
742
00:30:10.085 --> 00:30:11.845
Been, I've been kicked out of college
743
00:30:11.985 --> 00:30:15.125
and I've been, I've been sent back to take my s sat t
744
00:30:15.125 --> 00:30:16.285
You've been held back a grade.
745
00:30:16.285 --> 00:30:17.365
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
746
00:30:18.065 --> 00:30:20.285
Um, my, my scholarships on the line.
747
00:30:20.785 --> 00:30:25.365
Um, yeah, listen, I I I, I think that the great strength
748
00:30:25.365 --> 00:30:29.725
with, with our team is, is that, uh, every weekend,
749
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but also every day, you know, we're taking learnings
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and we're recognizing ways that we can improve.
751
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Um, you know, I think that the pylon is a really good piece
752
00:30:38.525 --> 00:30:40.165
of evidence of that and how much
753
00:30:40.165 --> 00:30:43.445
that has evolved from the first weekend to now.
754
00:30:43.905 --> 00:30:46.285
Um, not just, you know, the fact that it,
755
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it works more often than not now.
756
00:30:48.745 --> 00:30:53.405
Um, but also the sizing and, and how things are shown.
757
00:30:53.705 --> 00:30:56.205
And, you know, this, people might not have noticed,
758
00:30:56.425 --> 00:31:00.045
but you know, we, we've moved from highlighting the top five
759
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to now highlighting the podium.
760
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And, and so that allows more space
761
00:31:03.945 --> 00:31:06.165
for more drivers on the lower part of the,
762
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of the, of the pylon.
763
00:31:07.445 --> 00:31:10.245
And, you know, these are, they may seem like little changes,
764
00:31:10.305 --> 00:31:12.165
but they're actually quite big changes in terms of
765
00:31:12.165 --> 00:31:15.445
how we're presenting the information and uh, you know, tires
766
00:31:15.625 --> 00:31:16.645
and all those kind of things.
767
00:31:16.665 --> 00:31:18.845
So those, those modifications are happening there.
768
00:31:18.845 --> 00:31:21.365
And that's a very kind of visual representation
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00:31:21.905 --> 00:31:23.965
of the changes that are being made within the,
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00:31:23.965 --> 00:31:25.645
within the group every single weekend.
771
00:31:25.905 --> 00:31:27.365
You know, we have an amazing team,
772
00:31:28.465 --> 00:31:32.085
but very few of them had ever broadcast IndyCar before.
773
00:31:32.515 --> 00:31:34.445
Some have never broadcast Motorsport before.
774
00:31:34.465 --> 00:31:35.845
So it's a massive learning curve.
775
00:31:35.845 --> 00:31:38.365
They're, they're hugely experienced in other sports and,
776
00:31:38.425 --> 00:31:42.365
and they come with a, a wealth of, of, uh,
777
00:31:42.435 --> 00:31:43.965
award-winning experience.
778
00:31:44.345 --> 00:31:46.565
Um, but IndyCar is, is unique.
779
00:31:46.565 --> 00:31:47.885
It's unique within Motorsport.
780
00:31:48.305 --> 00:31:51.845
Um, and it's, it's funny
781
00:31:51.845 --> 00:31:55.605
because, you know, the season is so short that, you know,
782
00:31:55.625 --> 00:31:57.405
by the time we've been doing this for six months,
783
00:31:58.175 --> 00:32:00.245
we're we are then on a six month hiatus.
784
00:32:00.745 --> 00:32:04.885
So yeah. So I look, I'm still finding my feet.
785
00:32:04.925 --> 00:32:06.085
I think we're all still learn.
786
00:32:06.305 --> 00:32:09.085
You you always learn, you know, in, in, in whatever you do,
787
00:32:09.365 --> 00:32:10.685
whatever job you do, you learn every day.
788
00:32:11.305 --> 00:32:15.045
Um, but uh, we, we, we are getting there.
789
00:32:15.205 --> 00:32:18.125
I think I'd give us a, I'd probably give us a b,
790
00:32:19.185 --> 00:32:20.755
like a BB minus.
791
00:32:21.175 --> 00:32:24.555
Um, I'd give myself a d you and you and you
792
00:32:24.555 --> 00:32:27.315
and Townsend get an a plus. Um, no,
793
00:32:27.575 --> 00:32:28.835
No, that's not those words.
794
00:32:28.895 --> 00:32:30.155
That's not, you don't get to do that.
795
00:32:30.375 --> 00:32:32.595
That's why I, yeah, I did. I retracted the question.
796
00:32:32.655 --> 00:32:34.955
Oh yeah. Sorry. Now no, we edit this,
797
00:32:34.975 --> 00:32:36.715
so I'm just gonna bleep that part out. Yeah, fine.
798
00:32:36.985 --> 00:32:38.915
Yeah. Whatever the mark is, just bleep it.
799
00:32:39.125 --> 00:32:40.125
I give us a beep.
800
00:32:41.075 --> 00:32:42.485
Well, yeah, exactly. Well look,
801
00:32:42.765 --> 00:32:44.805
I think you've been doing a phenomenal job
802
00:32:45.105 --> 00:32:46.685
and it's been such a blast getting
803
00:32:46.685 --> 00:32:48.485
to work alongside you the first half of the year
804
00:32:48.665 --> 00:32:51.085
and see the growth and see the enthusiasm
805
00:32:51.085 --> 00:32:52.445
and see the whole group all
806
00:32:52.445 --> 00:32:53.685
coming together and getting better and better.
807
00:32:53.745 --> 00:32:56.125
And I think it's coming across in the broadcast
808
00:32:56.225 --> 00:32:58.445
and from what I hear from people, you know,
809
00:32:58.445 --> 00:33:00.645
we ran into a lot of fans this weekend in Elkhart Yeah.
810
00:33:00.825 --> 00:33:02.485
Who had, you know, some really good things
811
00:33:02.505 --> 00:33:04.605
to say about the work that Fox is doing
812
00:33:04.625 --> 00:33:06.005
and the production team's doing
813
00:33:06.005 --> 00:33:07.165
and the broadcast team's doing.
814
00:33:07.265 --> 00:33:09.725
So, um, so far so good, bud. Yeah, I
815
00:33:09.725 --> 00:33:10.725
Think so.
816
00:33:10.725 --> 00:33:11.965
And uh, and do you know what, what's really cool as well,
817
00:33:12.265 --> 00:33:14.845
you know, obviously we all focus on the, on the figures
818
00:33:14.845 --> 00:33:17.085
that we get after the, after the races,
819
00:33:17.705 --> 00:33:18.925
but I think something that,
820
00:33:18.925 --> 00:33:21.645
that maybe hasn't been spoken about as much is actually
821
00:33:21.665 --> 00:33:24.125
how much the Fox promotion is, is helping
822
00:33:24.905 --> 00:33:27.165
the footfall at racetracks, you know, from St.
823
00:33:27.165 --> 00:33:30.645
Pete, the busiest St. Pete that anybody can recall.
824
00:33:30.995 --> 00:33:35.205
Long Beach was jam packed. Indy 500 was a sellout.
825
00:33:35.205 --> 00:33:38.085
Like, you know, everywhere we go, the,
826
00:33:38.185 --> 00:33:40.685
the promoters are saying this is huge.
827
00:33:40.735 --> 00:33:42.965
We've, we've sold more tickets than than ever.
828
00:33:43.425 --> 00:33:45.725
Um, and that's a big part of the promotion as well.
829
00:33:45.745 --> 00:33:48.045
So I think, you know, to, to our bosses at Fox,
830
00:33:48.045 --> 00:33:50.445
like amazing job that they've done with the promotion,
831
00:33:50.545 --> 00:33:52.805
not just in terms of getting it out through the TV
832
00:33:53.025 --> 00:33:55.525
to people, but getting people to come to the track as well,
833
00:33:55.525 --> 00:33:57.565
because it's really cool man.
834
00:33:57.565 --> 00:33:59.845
It's great. Great to see how busy the races have been.
835
00:34:01.025 --> 00:34:02.885
Yep. And we still have a bunch to go.
836
00:34:03.025 --> 00:34:05.205
We still have eight races left.
837
00:34:05.665 --> 00:34:07.605
Uh, we get a, we get a week off I races
838
00:34:07.605 --> 00:34:08.685
In nine weeks or something.
839
00:34:08.875 --> 00:34:10.085
Like, this is mad,
840
00:34:10.675 --> 00:34:13.005
Some mad stretch, but it's gonna be fun.
841
00:34:13.005 --> 00:34:15.485
Yeah. So buddy, thanks for coming on. I appreciate it.
842
00:34:15.705 --> 00:34:18.365
Uh, great work as I've been saying. Thanks buddy.
843
00:34:18.435 --> 00:34:19.805
Safe travels. We'll wave to each other
844
00:34:19.915 --> 00:34:20.965
from different planes.
845
00:34:20.965 --> 00:34:22.125
Going to the same place you are,
846
00:34:22.145 --> 00:34:24.325
You are upstairs, so I'll probably, I'll see you
847
00:34:24.325 --> 00:34:26.045
before we, before we go and fan that.
848
00:34:26.045 --> 00:34:27.445
I'll see you in the UK next week, mate.
849
00:34:28.335 --> 00:34:30.945
Alright, sounds good buddy. Safe travels. Bye mate.
850
00:34:32.375 --> 00:34:34.225
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