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Alex. Hello everybody. Welcome to Off Track with Generosity.
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Alex, tell me about your flight home from Iowa.
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Like, I want you to know that I heard from our friend Bobby
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that weather had been a little bit suspect
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and that you had a bit of a wild ride home
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and then text you like, Hey man,
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I heard your ride was a bit wild.
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And I want the details
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because what you said
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to me makes like I nearly threw up in my mouth.
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No, I'm good.
I know you're good.
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Now, why don't you describe to me
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how you were doing it eight o'clock on Sunday.
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Fine. I was having lasagna with my wife and son, Alex.
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Six o'clock on Sunday. Alex answered the damn question.
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I'm not going to,
It was fine.
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Why didn't you hit some weather?
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We picked our way through some weather.
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We didn't hit weather. We, we, there was actually,
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believe it or not, a window over Terre Haute.
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So we, we flew south
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of our trajectory to split the gap
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between some storms and we did that.
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And then we came around the southwest side of Indianapolis
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and landed VFR, um, at executive.
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Um, didn't even need any control or help
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or approach or anything, so.
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Oh, so it wasn't even as fun
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as when we came back from Barber or wherever it was?
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Uh, no, I mean it was, I i it was, uh, I mean,
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I don't know that fun is, is a term that I would use for,
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uh, what Sunday was,
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but um, it was
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coming back from Barbara was certainly more fun. Yes.
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Okay. All right. I,
I hear you.
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What I experienced on Sunday.
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Yeah. Got it. Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
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Um, cool. All right, well that's good.
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Yeah, I'm glad that you're here. I,
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I was really, I was really not super impressed with some
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of our pilot friends
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and their decision making,
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considering they were in a much smaller aircraft, none
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of whom are instrument rated, taking off from noon Iowa
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and flying to Indie exec, thankfully.
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But did they, they stopped
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somewhere, right? They had a pit
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Stop.
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Well, they weren't until they texted, they were flying solo
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to stay, you know, clear of clouds that they were able
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to text me and they were like, Hey, how was it?
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And I was like, not awesome.
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And they were like, cool, we're gonna land in Illinois.
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Um, so like, I don't know, like
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I guess that's good decision making in the moment,
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but also probably just shouldn't have left.
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It's that whole Titanic theory
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that we talked about so many times. I
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Love it.
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Yeah. But like, but like we were, we,
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our plane is much larger, much faster with onboard weather
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and two instrument pilots versus a much smaller,
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less powerful, even less powerful
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and smaller plane with no weather and no instrument pilots.
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So I don't know.
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Anyways, I'm not saying that what we did,
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I would do it again, but certainly
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they shouldn't have done what they did.
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So fair that that's the, uh, that's the travel story, uh,
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part of this podcast.
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Um, let's talk about Iowa and um, you know, the people,
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I have so much travel, we this
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Show.
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Oh, I have so much travel to talk about. We don't
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So much travel to cover.
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We don't have much time. We don't have that much
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Time.
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I know, but Okay. Alright,
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fine. We'll do that when you leave.
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Okay. We don't have that much time. I gotta go.
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I got things to do. Uh, you look
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At, you're going golfing. Are you going golfing?
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I'm not. I'm going to the dentist. Uh, unfortunately.
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Hey, me too. Um, , I golf this morning, hence. Oh,
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That's why. Okay.
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That's why. Yeah.
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Um, let's talk about Iowa
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because we may, we probably have to go through a lap
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by lap dissertation of both races, considering I don't know
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that anyone that listens to this podcast saw it
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based on the TV numbers. ,
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Sorry James, don't
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Comment.
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James's fault. It's not James's fault. It's not Fox's fault.
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How are, is anyone supposed to know that there's, how,
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who is gonna be able
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to watch the race when no one knows the race exists?
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Like, I don't know.
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Yeah, that's
Therein lies the problem
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that we've talked about at length.
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We don't need to go into it.
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Um, really disappointing to see the TV numbers, um,
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And the attendance
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Huge. Disappointing to see the lack of attendance as well.
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Um, you know, I think that we, uh,
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we may be, I don't know that we, meaning James and I,
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but I think we as a series, uh, underestimated the power
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of a-list musicians, um,
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and the effect that they would have on getting people
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to a racetrack.
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And, and so when said a-list musicians went away, um,
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so did everyone else, and that just, it sucks
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because it ended up being two pretty
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decent races, I thought,
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Unfortunately.
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But that's, that's the thing though, right? Is how much
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of it is that the big music acts were,
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were promoted and people knew they were gonna be there.
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And so people showed up.
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Like no, I'm not saying
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that we would draw an Ed Sheeran crowd, were not as popular
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as Ed Sheeran, but like he talked to people in the area.
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It sounded like there was very little promotion done locally
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and that, I don't know how you're supposed to know
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that there's a race happening if you don't tell anybody.
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So I don't know, man. I I'm with you.
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I don't, I really don't wanna get into it.
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We've, we've beat this one. We all have voiced our opinions.
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They haven't changed because the actions haven't changed
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of certain people and groups.
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Um, and we move on with
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what we're two like unexpectedly good races, I thought.
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Yeah. I mean, you've not watched them, but, uh,
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I mean, I,
I, no, I think they were Would
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You classify them as good
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or would you classify them as acceptable
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because they are not good compared to Iowa of old?
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It was not good compared to Gateway.
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It was not, it was good compared to the absolute
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atrocity that was last year.
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But I wouldn't say that they were good races.
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So I would say that they were great races compared
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to the atrocity of last year.
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Okay. They were acceptable compared to Iowa of
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days gone by.
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But I'd say they were good on, on par with some
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of the good races we've had this year in IndyCar. Yes, I
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Do think it was better, but I don't know
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that it was like sensationally better.
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Yeah, no, definitely not. Sensationally better.
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Um, I said I think it, I think it puts it on par
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with like a decent IndyCar race in 2025.
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Um, you had, you know, last stint passed
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for the lead in race one in race two, you had no idea
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who was gonna win, you know, until the end
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because of the way the yellows were falling
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and pit strategies and whatever.
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So I think, I think the, the lack
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of knowing who's gonna win the race is a big element,
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even if like,
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you're not just being spoiled passes, but is there any,
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Is there any oval race where you know who's gonna win?
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Like even last year you can't say you knew who's gonna win.
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I mean, last year you like once, yeah,
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once everything settled in you kind of knew
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'cause there was literally no passing, but like Right, but
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There's still, there's, there's the whole ye there's
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always a risk of a yellow right at Oval.
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I mean, man, you
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Can't say sorry. We'll, okay,
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Race two from dead last, last
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Year.
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Let me, let me, let me re Yeah, exactly.
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We didn't know he was gonna win, right? And that, but
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That's what I'm saying. Like, but
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You said, oh, you said it wasn't a good race.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Okay.
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So, but you know what I mean, there was,
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there was a race at the end,
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I guess I don't because I participated in it.
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Right. And while it was easier, no, seriously,
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while it was easier to use Lane two, um, while
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there was certainly more comers
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and goers, um, end of stint versus beginning of stint
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and all this sort of thing, you were still driving this race
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to extend your stint as long
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as possible in the hopes of catching a yellow.
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So it was the majority unless you
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Were a Chevy.
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What do you mean? You were just,
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'cause you couldn't go as long,
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doesn't mean you weren't trying to do
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It.
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Nope. Patto, Joseph Lucas, those guys didn't pit on fuel.
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They pit tried to do an undercut
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and it absolutely hosts them.
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Well, let's, we'll get to race two
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and how those guys literally went against conventional
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wisdom on short tracks.
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But yes, I see what you're trying to say.
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Right. But it didn't work.
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What I'm saying is like the strategy was to go long. Yeah.
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Was to try and catch a yellow.
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You also were driving again to a
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regulated right front tire
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temperature, sidewalk temperature.
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You were getting told from the timing stand, all right,
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you gotta back down for the next six or seven laps
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because your tire's about to explode.
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If you don't back down, tire's gonna fail.
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We had tire failures in both races.
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My point is that while this could have been visually a bit
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of a better race than it was in 2024,
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it was still nowhere near
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what it should be from a series of our standards.
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It's nowhere near where it should be.
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With the amount of effort that went into the testing
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that was done last off season, the test
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that was done three weeks ago leading into this race, all
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of the conversations that were had,
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I guess I'm just frustrated.
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This has nothing to do with my results in the car.
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It was still bull. It was not fun.
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It was just like, it was not racing. Racing.
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It wasn't, it wasn't good. Um, yeah.
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So that's, that's where I'm saying like,
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it wasn't really that much different.
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Okay. I think that's all totally valid and totally fair.
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I think the, the difference is 99.9%
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of people watching at home don't know any of that.
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And visually just the product was such a big step forward
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from last year that I think it
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would, it kind of got everybody happy.
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And also, like even just talking, you know,
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coming into this race this weekend, last weekend,
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we weren't super optimistic it was gonna be much better
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after the test
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and then the decisions that were made based on arrow
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and engine and tire and whatever.
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But the second lane came in more than we thought.
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We saw some good side-by-side racing.
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Did we see 275 laps worth? No, we didn't.
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We had stretches that were kind of dull.
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But that's, that's a lot of races, right?
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So, um,
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I didn't think it was like decidedly worse than a bunch
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of the races that we've had this year, you know? Um,
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I mean, but maybe that's just that,
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but that's the outside lies the problem there.
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No, but therein lies the problem.
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Like it is just been, this year's been tough. Like
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This year has been tough.
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We have had some boring races,
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but like if people cared about the drivers,
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they would tune in either way.
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So the quality of the racing is still not the problem.
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We can all sit here and argue
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that it could be better or it should be better.
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But there are other racing series whose racing is far
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inferior in terms of an entertainment standpoint.
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And they do just fine
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because people know who say Elliot is, people know
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who Orlando Norris is and they care about those
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People.
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Yeah. I mean, I mean that brings up an interesting point.
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I, I was so disappointed
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and maybe I'm just not in a good mood today,
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but it is what it is.
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Um, I was so disappointed to see the video from Yes.
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In Ohio Yes. Of Kyle Kirkwood was Yes.
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In Plains clothes and he was going around, um,
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various campsites and, and kind of being undercover, right?
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And being like, Hey, can you name
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the three Andretti drivers?
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And Kyle was the one asking this
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and the majority of everyone was like, uh,
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Colton Herda and then crickets. And it's like
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If they even got Colton,
If they even got Colton.
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But my point is, we are at an Indy car race.
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This was at the, this wasn't the city,
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this was at the track.
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This is your second most successful driver of the season
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by a factor of three mm-hmm .
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Right. Driving for one of the largest
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and most predominant organizations in the championship.
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Arguably the most famous name in North American
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racing. Yeah. In
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Front of your face.
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And you don't know that it's him.
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Not only did you not know what he looks like, you didn't
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Know his name, you can't name Exactly.
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Yes. It was horrendous.
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It's embarrassing that, that was funny.
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Insane. We don't know how many people they went
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and talked to that did know it that they didn't show.
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'cause that was kind of the joke
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was that they didn't know who he was. Like
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If you, if you wanna dress him up in costume
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and make him not look like him and do that, that's funny.
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Newgarden did this at indie 10 years ago
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and they put prosthetics on his face.
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It was brilliant. It looks nothing.
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I talked to him, I had no idea it was him.
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It was unbelievable. It was really funny. They
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Did it with Scottie Mack and Joseph.
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Not like dressed up at Nashville,
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but it was out like on Broadway.
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So I guess it wasn't at a track.
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So I remember them doing this two years ago. Dude,
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This isn't James James's point is it has nothing to do
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with recognizing Kyle or not.
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It's, they can't name 380 drivers at the
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Racetrack.
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Nobody cares about the drivers
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because nobody knows who the drivers are.
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Only the one got popular once all the drivers got really
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well known because there was cameras in their houses
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and going on vacation with them.
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And there's a reason why companies spent
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a lot of money marketing stuff.
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It works. And our product is our drivers.
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It's not our cars, it's not our races, it's our drivers.
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And we're not doing that at all.
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And it's really, it's really bad.
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And like what the little bit
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that has been done this year has been,
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actually I'm gonna get myself in trouble
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so I'm just gonna stop there.
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Um, anyway, race one was,
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uh, exactly what everybody thought it was gonna be.
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The Joseph show from Pole, just doing Joseph things.
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So he came into the weekend with six wins at this track.
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I would like to draw attention to that race in 2022 that
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Patto mentioned when we spoke to him on Tuesday
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where Josie was leading and he crashed.
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So probably should have been seven.
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Uh, I wanna point to 2014 when he finished second
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to Hunter Ray, you know, like a last lap kind of thing.
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So like, yeah, fine, he lost, he didn't win that one
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but like was right up there.
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Um, and then I feel like, so yeah, seven fine.
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And then this weekend should've won both should've won both
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LED 200 and something lapse, lemme lemme rephrase that.
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Could've won both, uh, LED 200
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and something laps in race won.
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And ultimately it was the green flag pit cycle
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that, that got him there.
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Pata just did an unbelievable job on the in lap.
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He stayed out a lap longer, did the Overcut,
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which is usually not more powerful in Iowa than the
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undercut, but he just made it up on the apron.
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Kudos to him. Uh, pit stops for within a 10th of a second.
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So it wasn't on pit lane, it was really on the apron.
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And then Pat's defense on the out lap was like just perfect.
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So could have won that one.
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That would've put 'em up to, it should have been eight.
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And then you look at what happened to him on Sunday
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and man, the amount of bad luck that
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that organization in general is having right now is
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really tough to understand.
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Like it's, it's tough to comprehend
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how much stuff is going wrong.
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Obviously Saturday was great for them, 2, 3, 4.
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And then Sunday McLaughlin gets taken out on lap one
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will has a mechanical problem
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and then Joseph gets caught in pit lane
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when a yellow comes out.
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We first time he drives his way back up to the front
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bleeding again, happens again with like 20 laps to go.
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Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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That said, why is Joseph so good there, Alex?
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Because he is still, he didn't win either race,
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but he could have won both easily.
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What is it that is
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so different even compared
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to his teammates? I don't know that
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I have an answer for that James.
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Um, I will say that this weekend
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he seemed much more beatable than he has in years past.
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Um, so I do think that with the repave
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and the lack in comparison of Tire day
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to years past, um, people have been able
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to close the gap to him.
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Um, because before it was a foregone conclusion and,
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and all 25 drivers knew it going into it that like,
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I'll give Joseph two wins.
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Like it's just not, there's no,
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there's no competing with him.
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Um, and it was really his way of being able to still get
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through traffic as tires kind
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of begged and that sort of thing.
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And, and his just confidence in his ability in the car and,
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and lane usage and and that sort of thing.
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Um, as that's kind of gotten easier for everyone,
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like the Gap has certainly closed.
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But yeah, I mean he's still, you can't argue
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that he's not still the benchmark, um,
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but it doesn't feel as dire as it has in the past.
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Like before there was like no answers.
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Like who, like you just, you
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The gap was so big
You feel inept.
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Yeah. And now it's like you can look at things here
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and there and be like, oh yeah, I can see, I can see how
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that can, could be a difference maker.
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But um, no, you, you can't take away what he really,
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he can do on all ovals.
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I mean he should have won Gateway this year. Yeah.
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He shoulda have won Gateway could have won like a hundred
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laps into the race at Indy.
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He had come from last to fifth, so like Right, right.
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He was gonna be in the conversation at Indy. Of
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Course.
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Um, and really, and we've talked about this
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before, it, it was kind of a surprise that it took him
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so long to figure Indy out with, with his kind
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of dominance on all other ovals, whether
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that be short or not.
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Like he was, he was Lights outta Texas too. Mm-hmm .
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Um, so, you know, it was only a matter of time
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and obviously we saw with two back to back five hundreds.
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He's, he's just, he is the guy on ovals.
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Like it's not, it's not Iowa specific.
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Um, it used to be Iowa by a mile,
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but no, I mean we're gonna go to Milwaukee
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and he's gonna be the guy, we're gonna go
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to Nashville, he's gonna be the guy.
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Um, and we all just gotta pull our heads out
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and we're <inaudible> figure out
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how to make him not the guy.
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Um, because, because that's the reality of the situation. So
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Remind everybody we went in with lower power, um,
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but a hundred, a hundred less horsepower.
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Um, we went in with the downforce, you know,
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downforce numbers maybe a bit higher,
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but the, the big thing was
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that they moved downforce off the floor
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and onto the top side of the car.
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So they took off things like barge boards
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and strikes, which generates downforce from the floor
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and just added good old fashioned rear wing,
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move it to the top of the car.
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Um, and then a little bit of a different right front tire
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to address some of the concerns with that,
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that comes from the higher down force and whatever.
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Um, and I,
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and I think overall drivers seemed a little bit more
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comfortable running in dirty air,
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a little bit more comfortable using the second lane.
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How much of it do you think is the package versus the,
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the track just sort of weathering for a year
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and in the second lane being a bit better?
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I think it's, I think the, the big,
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the big win was the lower boost.
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Um, you know, having
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the lower approach speeds to the corners, um, allows you
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to have a bit more margin on balance.
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Um, a slightly bigger window there where you're not
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so on knife edge going, you know,
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10 plus miles an hour quicker into the corner.
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Um, and I think the weathering of the track,
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you know, willpower brought that up.
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I I hadn't put two and two together,
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but I think that makes, that makes some sense
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because certainly, you know, the discrepancy between
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lane one and lane two was, was lower than it was last year.
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Um, but ultimately the big thing
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and my opinion of this ever since really the beginning of
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this whole dilemma, um, with the repave was really,
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it had nothing to do with,
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because people talk about, oh, only lane one was rep pave.
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That's actually not true. Lane one and two.
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Yeah, it's is repaved.
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Um, the difference is, you know, no one wanted
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to use lane one in 2023 and earlier,
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or sorry, no one wanted to run Lane two in 2023
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and earlier Iowa either.
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But as the tires fell off so much and you were going 2, 3, 4
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and a half, four seconds elapsed slower,
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lane two became an option
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because you could still go quicker than a car
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that was struggling even on the less preferred line. Right?
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Yeah. It was still less grip
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up there, but it was just, yeah,
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Right.
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But it was like if you were doing better than the car in
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front of you, you could afford to go on the lesser grip
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because you had more grip in your tires.
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The problem with last year was there was no dig,
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so Lane two is never an option
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because it's more distance, the balance is worse
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and no one is falling off.
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You're doing 18 whatevers in perpetuity. Right?
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So Lane two is never gonna come in obviously.
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So 2025,
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I don't really think anything changed other than the balance
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window was a little bit bigger 'cause you were going slower.
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And number two, there was a little bit more dig
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because the cornering speeds and forces were higher
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because we had more downforce
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and we were going slower into the corner.
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So you were asking more of the tire
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and thus when you were doing 30 laps in a row in 18 five,
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it was actually more taxing on the tires.
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And so you would start to have to slow down a little bit,
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which allowed cars that were either had saved in the
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beginning of the stint or were set up a little bit better
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00:21:24.145 --> 00:21:26.205
to start going to that lane one and a half
509
00:21:26.225 --> 00:21:28.125
and getting half a wing and clean air and,
510
00:21:28.125 --> 00:21:30.445
and able to keep it clean and,
511
00:21:30.445 --> 00:21:32.285
and start getting that kind of groove going.
512
00:21:32.385 --> 00:21:34.965
And that's what you saw. You didn't see a full blown lane
513
00:21:34.985 --> 00:21:36.725
two for 275 laps.
514
00:21:36.775 --> 00:21:39.445
Right. You saw it as a, as an option when guys were,
515
00:21:39.905 --> 00:21:41.725
you know, coming up on laps cars
516
00:21:41.785 --> 00:21:43.565
or when they were just better than the car in
517
00:21:43.565 --> 00:21:44.685
front or, or what have you.
518
00:21:44.685 --> 00:21:48.325
Or there was, there was four cars in a line down on lane
519
00:21:48.425 --> 00:21:51.285
one, if you were the fifth car in line, you could move up to
520
00:21:51.285 --> 00:21:52.725
that lane one and a half and make it work.
521
00:21:52.785 --> 00:21:54.765
So I, I think that's truly what you saw,
522
00:21:54.765 --> 00:21:57.085
which was a result of, of a lot of factors.
523
00:21:57.385 --> 00:22:00.085
Um, but again, like I still think, you know,
524
00:22:00.085 --> 00:22:01.565
we had tire failures in the race.
525
00:22:02.025 --> 00:22:03.205
We didn't solve that problem.
526
00:22:03.345 --> 00:22:05.165
We were still driving to a temperature limit.
527
00:22:05.305 --> 00:22:09.565
So we have not quite figured out the, uh,
528
00:22:09.705 --> 00:22:13.045
the solution to the puzzle that again, is critical
529
00:22:13.065 --> 00:22:14.645
as I am of the situation.
530
00:22:14.645 --> 00:22:16.045
It was not brought on by IndyCar.
531
00:22:16.045 --> 00:22:17.885
Like this wasn't this, and I've said this time
532
00:22:17.885 --> 00:22:19.765
and time again, this wasn't anyone's fault.
533
00:22:20.385 --> 00:22:23.085
Um, but we are nowhere near having a solution
534
00:22:23.225 --> 00:22:26.705
for the problem that was presented to us, unfortunately.
535
00:22:31.175 --> 00:22:34.685
Well hopefully with two races worth of data
536
00:22:34.785 --> 00:22:38.525
and feedback that as a, as a conglomerate,
537
00:22:39.085 --> 00:22:40.125
everyone can get together and,
538
00:22:40.125 --> 00:22:42.285
and make some calls that kind of help that problem out.
539
00:22:42.905 --> 00:22:45.845
Um, I know a lot of people were asking, excuse me,
540
00:22:45.845 --> 00:22:47.045
are asking about, you know, if I was
541
00:22:47.045 --> 00:22:48.125
even gonna be back on the schedule.
542
00:22:48.225 --> 00:22:49.445
The rumor going around is
543
00:22:49.445 --> 00:22:52.855
that there is another year on the contract likely
544
00:22:52.855 --> 00:22:55.095
to be just one race next year was the rumor.
545
00:22:55.255 --> 00:22:56.615
I don't know if this was actually put out anywhere
546
00:22:56.615 --> 00:22:57.615
or if this was just rumors.
547
00:22:57.655 --> 00:22:59.375
I don't know. I I may be repeating something
548
00:22:59.375 --> 00:23:01.535
that was put at a press release as speculation.
549
00:23:01.575 --> 00:23:04.575
I have no idea. Um, and we don't fact check on the show.
550
00:23:04.835 --> 00:23:08.295
So, and then, but though the one thing, so on the way home,
551
00:23:08.655 --> 00:23:10.735
'cause my travel stories allowed me a lot
552
00:23:10.735 --> 00:23:12.375
of extra time on the way home, uh,
553
00:23:13.095 --> 00:23:14.615
I just put out a tweet saying, you know, Hey,
554
00:23:14.615 --> 00:23:16.015
what everybody think of the races in Iowa.
555
00:23:16.795 --> 00:23:18.735
The response was overwhelmingly positive.
556
00:23:18.735 --> 00:23:20.455
Everybody thought they were two really good races.
557
00:23:20.455 --> 00:23:23.175
That's awesome. Okay. The, the, the two things
558
00:23:23.205 --> 00:23:27.455
that were in almost every response, like an overwhelming,
559
00:23:27.515 --> 00:23:30.535
if there was a hundred responses, 90 of them said
560
00:23:31.155 --> 00:23:33.975
rather it was one race and rather it was Saturday night
561
00:23:34.705 --> 00:23:36.555
because everybody's like,
562
00:23:36.555 --> 00:23:38.475
racists were great, nobody was there.
563
00:23:38.545 --> 00:23:40.515
Like everybody, I didn't ask about attendance.
564
00:23:41.065 --> 00:23:43.355
Everybody just decided to throw in the fact
565
00:23:43.355 --> 00:23:45.165
that they noticed there was nobody watching in person.
566
00:23:45.625 --> 00:23:48.565
And a number of those people mentioned, they're like, yeah,
567
00:23:48.915 --> 00:23:52.365
it's the middle of July in the Midwest who wants to sit
568
00:23:52.365 --> 00:23:54.925
outside for two and a half hours at noon?
569
00:23:56.275 --> 00:24:00.215
And so the, the calls for the night race were plentiful.
570
00:24:01.115 --> 00:24:03.135
Now I don't know if that puts us in a position
571
00:24:03.135 --> 00:24:06.265
where next year it's like, if we wanna be on network,
572
00:24:07.165 --> 00:24:09.705
we have to be during the day because nighttime primetime,
573
00:24:10.075 --> 00:24:11.425
those are harder windows to get.
574
00:24:11.535 --> 00:24:12.825
Obviously we got it for Gateway.
575
00:24:13.725 --> 00:24:16.905
Um, I don't know, I don't know if that's the issue. Issue.
576
00:24:17.015 --> 00:24:19.785
Network window really helped us here, Val.
577
00:24:21.055 --> 00:24:23.705
Fair enough. And so do we take an FS one spot
578
00:24:23.925 --> 00:24:26.505
but make sure we can put it at as a night race and
579
00:24:26.865 --> 00:24:28.345
'cause I mean, do you, do you feel
580
00:24:28.345 --> 00:24:31.065
that a night race would help all of these causes?
581
00:24:31.095 --> 00:24:34.025
Just lower track temps means lower tire temps. Yeah. Maybe.
582
00:24:34.245 --> 00:24:36.345
And helps the second lane. I
583
00:24:36.425 --> 00:24:39.465
I think, I think any, I don't know that anyone has ever
584
00:24:40.055 --> 00:24:44.945
gone to or watched a night race on an oval in IndyCar
585
00:24:44.945 --> 00:24:48.705
and been like, that sucked LA or I wish we didn't do.
586
00:24:48.785 --> 00:24:49.985
I wish we did it at noon.
587
00:24:50.485 --> 00:24:51.945
That's the thing. Like I, I can't think
588
00:24:51.945 --> 00:24:53.065
of any track we've been to.
589
00:24:53.225 --> 00:24:55.745
Everyone wants, everyone wants a short oval night race
590
00:24:55.965 --> 00:24:57.265
or a big oval night race.
591
00:24:57.265 --> 00:24:59.865
Like Texas at night was sick. Like everyone wants that.
592
00:25:00.495 --> 00:25:02.905
That was the point I made to somebody was I don't,
593
00:25:03.025 --> 00:25:05.585
I can't think of any oval that we run at night
594
00:25:05.645 --> 00:25:08.505
and in the day where I preferred the day race, dude,
595
00:25:08.505 --> 00:25:11.145
even in it close, even Indy two years ago when we started
596
00:25:11.175 --> 00:25:12.665
like five hours late, that
597
00:25:12.665 --> 00:25:13.905
Was better. Pretty missed the night. It
598
00:25:13.905 --> 00:25:15.705
Was almost the night race the closest we've had
599
00:25:15.705 --> 00:25:16.745
to race. And it was great.
600
00:25:16.745 --> 00:25:19.185
Great. And honestly and honestly this year might
601
00:25:19.185 --> 00:25:21.785
as well have been night with how cold it was and overcast.
602
00:25:21.935 --> 00:25:25.785
Like it was 50 degrees and cloudy so it was pretty dark. Um,
603
00:25:25.895 --> 00:25:26.895
Exactly.
604
00:25:26.895 --> 00:25:30.505
Yeah. No, all os are better at night without a doubt.
605
00:25:31.045 --> 00:25:32.665
So hopefully that's something that can be taken into
606
00:25:32.665 --> 00:25:33.945
account moving forward.
607
00:25:34.805 --> 00:25:38.555
Uh, alright. Toronto coming up, uh, we're in the middle
608
00:25:38.555 --> 00:25:41.395
of this slog that is July back
609
00:25:41.395 --> 00:25:42.475
to back to back to back to back.
610
00:25:42.615 --> 00:25:44.755
How do we feel? Yeah, what do you think?
611
00:25:45.335 --> 00:25:46.435
I'm excited to get back to Toronto.
612
00:25:46.855 --> 00:25:49.755
Um, I'm excited to get back
613
00:25:49.875 --> 00:25:51.675
'cause I only did one practice session last year
614
00:25:52.095 --> 00:25:55.555
and uh, I just want, I don't,
615
00:25:56.755 --> 00:25:57.875
I that that's weird.
616
00:25:57.945 --> 00:25:59.835
Like I've never missed a race in my career.
617
00:26:00.335 --> 00:26:03.195
Um, I don't like that I did miss a race
618
00:26:04.055 --> 00:26:07.955
and so as much as it was just a, a little broken thumb,
619
00:26:08.145 --> 00:26:10.195
like I feel like I've got, uh,
620
00:26:11.685 --> 00:26:14.755
unfinished business maybe is the right term there
621
00:26:14.755 --> 00:26:17.635
because um, I just wanna go back and,
622
00:26:17.655 --> 00:26:18.715
and do the whole weekend.
623
00:26:19.555 --> 00:26:21.275
I don't know. So there's some excitement there.
624
00:26:21.895 --> 00:26:26.235
Um, other than that, it's one of my
625
00:26:27.715 --> 00:26:30.395
favorite cities, um, but least favorite tracks.
626
00:26:30.935 --> 00:26:35.235
So we got that going for us. Um, so yeah, we'll see
627
00:26:36.425 --> 00:26:39.275
This is like, not like Portland, which is one
628
00:26:39.275 --> 00:26:40.355
of your least favorite tracks and one
629
00:26:40.355 --> 00:26:41.755
of your least favorite cities, so it could be worse.
630
00:26:41.765 --> 00:26:43.725
Right, right. It be worse. Well
631
00:26:43.945 --> 00:26:45.405
At least we got that coming up.
632
00:26:45.675 --> 00:26:49.485
Yeah. Yeah. Um, so based on Detroit
633
00:26:51.575 --> 00:26:53.245
confidence level, like
634
00:26:53.335 --> 00:26:55.525
where do you think, where are you gonna qualify? We
635
00:26:55.525 --> 00:26:58.725
Will, dude, here's what's so wild about this season
636
00:26:59.545 --> 00:27:02.885
is like we are in this 11th
637
00:27:03.185 --> 00:27:05.735
to 15th place Purgatory
638
00:27:05.965 --> 00:27:06.965
hell,
.
639
00:27:07.395 --> 00:27:08.975
Um, and it's crazy.
640
00:27:09.125 --> 00:27:11.775
Like even even Iowa, we had a super strong test.
641
00:27:13.115 --> 00:27:16.935
We were, we had a really good practice one and we go out
642
00:27:17.155 --> 00:27:18.815
and we qualify 12th and 15th
643
00:27:19.075 --> 00:27:22.895
and I'm just like, how, how are we just stuck in this bubble
644
00:27:23.355 --> 00:27:24.735
of mediocrity?
645
00:27:25.355 --> 00:27:27.175
Um, little did I know what was
646
00:27:27.175 --> 00:27:29.375
to come over the next two races and 12th
647
00:27:29.395 --> 00:27:33.175
and 15th would've been pretty sick, but I digress .
648
00:27:33.715 --> 00:27:36.455
Um, so I think, I think we will qualify,
649
00:27:38.875 --> 00:27:41.255
uh, 11th to 16th.
650
00:27:41.485 --> 00:27:44.135
Like that is, that just kind of seems to be our pace.
651
00:27:44.475 --> 00:27:49.095
Um, which is, is not horrible.
652
00:27:49.515 --> 00:27:52.615
Um, but you know, we, we, we still need to take a big step.
653
00:27:52.875 --> 00:27:56.895
Um, I I think street courses are not our, our thing.
654
00:27:57.355 --> 00:28:00.175
Um, but that being said,
655
00:28:00.435 --> 00:28:03.215
our best results this year have come on street courses.
656
00:28:03.875 --> 00:28:06.855
Um, so it may not feel that it's
657
00:28:06.855 --> 00:28:08.495
that good while I'm out there,
658
00:28:08.795 --> 00:28:11.895
but we're, we're getting, you know, top tens and,
659
00:28:12.075 --> 00:28:13.375
and you know, knocking on the door,
660
00:28:13.375 --> 00:28:14.415
our top fives on street courses.
661
00:28:14.595 --> 00:28:17.055
So I guess that's something to look forward to.
662
00:28:17.435 --> 00:28:20.655
Um, and hopefully that we can end this part of the season
663
00:28:21.435 --> 00:28:24.095
in the same vein that we've been for the other three of 'em.
664
00:28:24.515 --> 00:28:26.255
So let's say, uh, top 10
665
00:28:26.255 --> 00:28:28.175
and qualifying top five in the race's
666
00:28:28.175 --> 00:28:29.175
Goal.
667
00:28:29.175 --> 00:28:29.575
That would be awesome. I would,
668
00:28:29.775 --> 00:28:31.495
I would feel pretty, pretty pumped about that. Yeah,
669
00:28:31.495 --> 00:28:32.495
Pretty neat about that.
670
00:28:32.555 --> 00:28:34.495
Did is, are Kelly and Ben coming?
671
00:28:35.025 --> 00:28:36.935
Kelly and Ben are coming. Um, Kelly. Nice.
672
00:28:37.155 --> 00:28:39.455
So this will be, well he's not going to the race.
673
00:28:39.485 --> 00:28:41.855
Neither is Kelly. But this will be the first,
674
00:28:42.035 --> 00:28:43.375
uh, trip they've taken.
675
00:28:43.875 --> 00:28:45.455
Um, or we all have taken
676
00:28:45.635 --> 00:28:47.255
as a family, so that's pretty exciting.
677
00:28:47.625 --> 00:28:49.695
She's obviously going because uh,
678
00:28:49.695 --> 00:28:53.855
all her family is quite close to the city, so she's gonna
679
00:28:54.835 --> 00:28:59.215
go introduce Ben to all of his cousins and aunts
680
00:28:59.315 --> 00:29:02.095
and uncles and that sort of thing, which is pretty nice.
681
00:29:02.635 --> 00:29:04.335
Sounds fun. Okay, nice.
682
00:29:05.355 --> 00:29:07.815
Um, Tim, what are you doing this weekend? Well,
683
00:29:07.895 --> 00:29:09.815
I was gonna go to, to Toronto,
684
00:29:10.595 --> 00:29:13.535
but I broke my jaw, uh, somehow.
685
00:29:14.615 --> 00:29:17.635
And so I'm gonna relax a little bit and let that heal
686
00:29:17.935 --> 00:29:20.595
and catch you guys in Laguna Seca.
687
00:29:21.215 --> 00:29:22.995
Why don't you go ahead and explain to the crowd
688
00:29:23.335 --> 00:29:24.915
how you broke your jaw.
689
00:29:25.715 --> 00:29:29.555
I dunno. Uh, I was flying out to go visit our,
690
00:29:29.735 --> 00:29:31.435
our friend Marco last week.
691
00:29:31.815 --> 00:29:35.555
And I had a pretty severe tooth pain while I was flying out
692
00:29:36.455 --> 00:29:39.475
and couldn't find a dentist that could see me last week in,
693
00:29:39.495 --> 00:29:40.915
uh, in Nazareth, Pennsylvania.
694
00:29:41.185 --> 00:29:43.365
Not a bustling metropolis old Nazareth.
695
00:29:44.425 --> 00:29:48.085
And got back home yesterday, had an appointment,
696
00:29:48.085 --> 00:29:50.485
figured like worst case scenario I was gonna need
697
00:29:50.485 --> 00:29:52.845
to get a root canal 'cause it felt like the nerve was dying,
698
00:29:53.425 --> 00:29:57.165
got an x-ray and I have somehow broken the root of one
699
00:29:57.165 --> 00:30:00.485
of my teeth and had a hairline fracture on my jaw.
700
00:30:00.785 --> 00:30:03.645
Mm-hmm . They were like the, the dentist was like,
701
00:30:03.645 --> 00:30:04.805
you fall, did you get in a fight?
702
00:30:05.325 --> 00:30:08.565
I was like, no, , I don't have any bruising
703
00:30:08.875 --> 00:30:10.605
that would indicate an impact.
704
00:30:10.805 --> 00:30:12.125
'cause it's right over here. It's like a little
705
00:30:12.125 --> 00:30:14.045
swollen. They, I have no idea.
706
00:30:14.505 --> 00:30:18.685
So the working theory fall that you grind your teeth
707
00:30:18.905 --> 00:30:22.685
so aggressively at night that you broke your own jaw
708
00:30:22.985 --> 00:30:25.725
and broke the nerve in a tooth.
709
00:30:26.185 --> 00:30:27.805
So that's, well, I broke the actual,
710
00:30:27.805 --> 00:30:29.005
like the nerve is okay.
711
00:30:29.165 --> 00:30:30.685
I broke the tooth, the,
712
00:30:30.825 --> 00:30:31.825
The root.
713
00:30:31.825 --> 00:30:34.605
Sorry, you broke the tooth and the jaw still bad. Still bad.
714
00:30:35.365 --> 00:30:37.645
I, the other thing is, I had a dental procedure
715
00:30:37.645 --> 00:30:39.165
with these guys like a month ago
716
00:30:39.425 --> 00:30:41.645
and they had the thing that like props your mouth open.
717
00:30:41.745 --> 00:30:43.365
So the only other theory I would have is
718
00:30:43.365 --> 00:30:44.405
maybe they broke it.
719
00:30:44.905 --> 00:30:46.365
So two things on that.
720
00:30:46.985 --> 00:30:49.485
Uh, uh,
721
00:30:50.995 --> 00:30:55.525
does your lawyer work on retainer or percentage?
722
00:30:55.615 --> 00:30:59.005
Percentage? And why are you going back to the same
723
00:30:59.075 --> 00:31:00.075
Dentist?
724
00:31:00.075 --> 00:31:00.885
I'm gonna a different dentist.
725
00:31:01.395 --> 00:31:02.405
Like I went to them
726
00:31:02.715 --> 00:31:04.445
because I just figured it was a root
727
00:31:04.455 --> 00:31:05.725
canal and they're like, it's broken.
728
00:31:06.505 --> 00:31:07.685
And they're like, uh, sorry,
729
00:31:07.705 --> 00:31:09.765
the only fix is the most expensive option.
730
00:31:10.065 --> 00:31:13.965
So I was like, you know, I'm not sure it's their fault,
731
00:31:14.065 --> 00:31:15.245
but it might be their fault.
732
00:31:15.585 --> 00:31:16.965
So I'm going to a different dentist
733
00:31:17.055 --> 00:31:18.325
today for a second opinion
734
00:31:18.825 --> 00:31:21.725
And then to a lawyer for, uh, some, some counsel
735
00:31:22.145 --> 00:31:25.045
On that Super uplifting note, guys, believe it
736
00:31:25.045 --> 00:31:27.965
or not, um, you gotta go to the dentist to go
737
00:31:27.965 --> 00:31:29.445
to the dentist, so,
738
00:31:29.635 --> 00:31:31.325
Well, I hope you have better luck than Tim.
739
00:31:31.755 --> 00:31:33.525
Well I can tell you my jaw isn't broken
740
00:31:33.705 --> 00:31:35.925
and if it was, it wouldn't be for a lame reason.
741
00:31:35.925 --> 00:31:36.965
Like sleeping might be
742
00:31:36.995 --> 00:31:38.325
I'll come up with something else. It might
743
00:31:38.325 --> 00:31:40.445
Be after this visit. You never know.
744
00:31:41.165 --> 00:31:44.045
I do love that. Like, my old joke has come true that most
745
00:31:44.045 --> 00:31:45.845
of my injuries are re sleep related.
746
00:31:47.015 --> 00:31:51.885
Incredible.
I was flying out of Nazareth
747
00:31:51.905 --> 00:31:53.685
or Allentown and I mm-hmm .
748
00:31:53.765 --> 00:31:55.085
Was, uh, I had a pretty bad mood
749
00:31:55.085 --> 00:31:57.365
because I was in pretty bad agony from my,
750
00:31:57.545 --> 00:31:58.605
my tooth and everything.
751
00:31:59.505 --> 00:32:02.045
And so I ordered some chicken tenders at the, uh,
752
00:32:02.105 --> 00:32:03.565
at the Nazareth Air
753
00:32:03.565 --> 00:32:06.085
or Allentown airport restaurant bar thing.
754
00:32:06.555 --> 00:32:09.085
Okay. I got some chicken tenders, took a bite,
755
00:32:09.185 --> 00:32:11.725
looked down completely uncooked chicken.
756
00:32:12.065 --> 00:32:13.445
It had just been breaded
757
00:32:13.785 --> 00:32:15.965
and like thrown in the boiler for a few seconds.
758
00:32:16.205 --> 00:32:17.925
I was like, what? You know what? I finished this.
759
00:32:18.085 --> 00:32:20.925
I ate a bite, you know, I don't, I'm going to get sick now.
760
00:32:21.505 --> 00:32:22.525
And they're like, you'll be fine.
761
00:32:22.565 --> 00:32:24.125
I was like, well I'm glad I have the medical opinion
762
00:32:24.125 --> 00:32:26.605
of the person at the Allentown bar or slash restaurant,
763
00:32:26.705 --> 00:32:28.205
but like, I, I don't,
764
00:32:28.525 --> 00:32:31.165
I feel like there's a reason we don't eat raw chicken.
765
00:32:31.305 --> 00:32:33.205
So I went and forced myself to throw up
766
00:32:33.745 --> 00:32:35.005
and they were like, probably smart sir.
767
00:32:35.315 --> 00:32:36.765
Like sir, I just want you to know
768
00:32:36.765 --> 00:32:39.765
that like we check the temperature of the meat when we cook
769
00:32:39.765 --> 00:32:42.245
with the meat thermometer, but it broke this morning.
770
00:32:42.565 --> 00:32:43.965
I was like, see, just, you're just winging it.
771
00:32:44.025 --> 00:32:45.085
You're just like, can
772
00:32:45.085 --> 00:32:48.415
Keep, he was like, yeah,
773
00:32:48.415 --> 00:32:50.935
that feels like 1 65 had chip it.
774
00:32:51.515 --> 00:32:53.295
So that's the story of how I ate raw chicken.
775
00:32:53.755 --> 00:32:54.895
So did you get your meal for free?
776
00:32:55.835 --> 00:32:57.055
Uh, they comped it and then
777
00:32:57.055 --> 00:32:58.175
they're like, do you want anything else?
778
00:32:58.355 --> 00:33:01.735
It will be free. I was like, no. Like I don't I
779
00:33:01.735 --> 00:33:03.215
No longer, you've proven that your ability
780
00:33:03.355 --> 00:33:07.335
to cook food adequately is quite poor or it's quite poor.
781
00:33:08.155 --> 00:33:10.655
So, um, how was it the, we, like how,
782
00:33:10.655 --> 00:33:12.095
how would you tell, what'd you do in Nazareth?
783
00:33:12.095 --> 00:33:13.415
Did you just have a good weekend? It was
784
00:33:13.415 --> 00:33:14.415
Lowkey.
785
00:33:14.415 --> 00:33:15.415
We played, this is gonna sound like I'm
786
00:33:15.415 --> 00:33:16.735
lying, but this is actually true.
787
00:33:16.755 --> 00:33:17.815
We played a lot of chess
788
00:33:18.515 --> 00:33:22.135
and okay, I hung out with, uh, Marco's, Marco's baby
789
00:33:22.395 --> 00:33:25.495
and Marissa was there with her baby and cool,
790
00:33:25.495 --> 00:33:27.615
and Sage's wife brought over their baby.
791
00:33:27.715 --> 00:33:28.935
So it was cool. It was a baby
792
00:33:29.075 --> 00:33:31.015
and chess filled four days
793
00:33:31.195 --> 00:33:32.735
and that was great. I had a great time with it.
794
00:33:33.365 --> 00:33:36.135
It's too many days for that list of activities. .
795
00:33:37.035 --> 00:33:40.315
So I was flying out to Iowa
796
00:33:40.895 --> 00:33:43.755
and I had, I had like tweeted
797
00:33:43.775 --> 00:33:47.955
or Insta, I, I did, I tweeted it, um, some, some,
798
00:33:48.065 --> 00:33:49.435
some delays that I had like
799
00:33:49.435 --> 00:33:50.835
by travel, it wasn't that bad, right?
800
00:33:50.875 --> 00:33:52.555
I had a connection somewhere Dallas.
801
00:33:53.695 --> 00:33:55.235
And it was one of these things where like,
802
00:33:55.295 --> 00:33:57.755
so like on the route to Dallas, we already got told
803
00:33:57.755 --> 00:34:00.195
that our flight was delayed leaving Dallas to go to Iowa.
804
00:34:00.545 --> 00:34:03.195
Fine. So you get there, burn some time in Dallas
805
00:34:03.615 --> 00:34:06.435
and then we've gone through like the first two hours
806
00:34:06.435 --> 00:34:07.555
of delay time to board.
807
00:34:07.555 --> 00:34:11.315
So we board get on the plane, last person's on the plane,
808
00:34:11.625 --> 00:34:13.075
they come on, they say, Hey,
809
00:34:13.685 --> 00:34:15.795
turns out there's a maintenance issue with this plane
810
00:34:16.015 --> 00:34:17.635
and it's gotta go into service.
811
00:34:18.015 --> 00:34:20.035
So it's, it's, it's gonna go out of service
812
00:34:20.295 --> 00:34:22.235
and into service maintenance, whatever.
813
00:34:22.965 --> 00:34:24.515
We're like, cool. Awesome.
814
00:34:24.775 --> 00:34:27.795
So we deplaned and during the deplaning process, I found out
815
00:34:27.795 --> 00:34:28.995
that Brian heard I was on the flight.
816
00:34:29.255 --> 00:34:30.875
And so Brian
817
00:34:30.875 --> 00:34:33.315
and I were sitting there waiting for some updates.
818
00:34:33.375 --> 00:34:35.955
So we're sitting in the gate and the guy comes over the
819
00:34:35.955 --> 00:34:38.315
thing and goes, uh, okay, great news.
820
00:34:38.335 --> 00:34:41.795
We have found a new plane. Uh, better news.
821
00:34:41.985 --> 00:34:44.915
It's a bigger plane, so you guys are gonna have, you know,
822
00:34:45.425 --> 00:34:47.635
more room and there's gonna be some free seats.
823
00:34:47.795 --> 00:34:49.155
'cause there was a full flight. Now there's gonna be
824
00:34:49.155 --> 00:34:50.235
some free seats in there.
825
00:34:50.895 --> 00:34:52.435
Uh, so this is all great.
826
00:34:54.755 --> 00:34:57.215
But, but eh, but
827
00:34:57.215 --> 00:34:58.255
because it's a bigger plane,
828
00:34:58.435 --> 00:35:00.015
we need an extra flight attendant.
829
00:35:00.675 --> 00:35:01.735
So we found a plane,
830
00:35:01.795 --> 00:35:05.135
but now we need to find one lone errand flight attendant.
831
00:35:06.005 --> 00:35:07.875
Got it. No, I,
832
00:35:07.875 --> 00:35:09.995
and then no further up, no follow further up on,
833
00:35:10.575 --> 00:35:14.195
no further follow up on timing that it said,
834
00:35:14.195 --> 00:35:16.475
we're gonna find one if you have any questions.
835
00:35:16.655 --> 00:35:20.715
I'm going on break for 20 minutes, so don't ask.
836
00:35:21.255 --> 00:35:23.395
And we're, I'm just like, why would he not just wait
837
00:35:23.395 --> 00:35:24.915
until we knew all the information?
838
00:35:25.535 --> 00:35:28.075
So anyway, so he says nothing, but then the app pings
839
00:35:28.075 --> 00:35:29.795
and it tells us that we're now departing like
840
00:35:29.795 --> 00:35:30.875
in another two hours.
841
00:35:31.215 --> 00:35:33.555
Two hours. It's like, okay. So then Brian
842
00:35:33.555 --> 00:35:35.675
and I go grab a bite tea, we come back,
843
00:35:36.095 --> 00:35:39.335
we board the plane again, then the guy,
844
00:35:39.555 --> 00:35:42.255
the last person's boarded captain comes on
845
00:35:42.255 --> 00:35:45.295
and goes, uh, so guys, some not great news.
846
00:35:45.995 --> 00:35:47.815
We have a light on in the cockpit.
847
00:35:48.035 --> 00:35:49.735
And I was like, I looked at the guy,
848
00:35:49.895 --> 00:35:51.175
I was like, he's he's messing with us.
849
00:35:51.175 --> 00:35:52.735
That's this is this is that, that's funny.
850
00:35:52.735 --> 00:35:54.055
That's, that's legit. Whatever.
851
00:35:54.635 --> 00:35:55.975
And then he just keeps talking.
852
00:35:56.135 --> 00:35:58.255
I was like, oh no, he is not, that's not a joke.
853
00:35:58.325 --> 00:35:59.295
He's not, he's dead serious.
854
00:35:59.795 --> 00:36:00.815
And he, so he is just like, yeah.
855
00:36:00.955 --> 00:36:02.895
So we've got, um, we've got
856
00:36:03.885 --> 00:36:05.575
maintenance coming out to take a look at it.
857
00:36:05.575 --> 00:36:06.695
Hopefully we can just fix it here.
858
00:36:06.965 --> 00:36:08.895
Hopefully, hopefully we can fix it.
859
00:36:08.895 --> 00:36:11.015
Is words you always wanna hear when on a, yeah,
860
00:36:11.115 --> 00:36:13.015
on an airplane thing to be muted.
861
00:36:13.195 --> 00:36:15.015
So yeah, that's just always what you want
862
00:36:15.015 --> 00:36:16.295
to hear, always what you wanna hear.
863
00:36:16.675 --> 00:36:18.895
So we sit there for like another 30,
864
00:36:18.895 --> 00:36:19.935
40 minutes, whatever it was.
865
00:36:19.935 --> 00:36:22.335
He's like, okay, we got it sorted. So then we're like, fine.
866
00:36:22.335 --> 00:36:24.335
So we closed the door, we start taxing
867
00:36:24.475 --> 00:36:26.495
and we're taxing and we're taxing.
868
00:36:26.675 --> 00:36:29.135
And then we taxied a bit more before we started taxing
869
00:36:29.795 --> 00:36:31.015
and then subsequent taxing.
870
00:36:31.155 --> 00:36:32.695
And then we pulled over and stopped.
871
00:36:33.395 --> 00:36:36.055
And I was like, I've been here before too.
872
00:36:36.485 --> 00:36:39.015
This is where they realized that they didn't fix the light
873
00:36:39.355 --> 00:36:41.735
and we have to go back and probably depl again.
874
00:36:42.275 --> 00:36:43.695
So we're sitting there and the guy
875
00:36:43.755 --> 00:36:45.135
and then there's nothing, there's no
876
00:36:45.135 --> 00:36:46.255
information, no updates.
877
00:36:46.255 --> 00:36:47.935
We're just sitting there for like another half hour.
878
00:36:48.195 --> 00:36:51.455
And then finally, whatever was the issue was resolved.
879
00:36:51.455 --> 00:36:53.255
Maybe we were looking for a place in line.
880
00:36:53.375 --> 00:36:54.375
'cause we were so late, I don't know.
881
00:36:54.375 --> 00:36:55.415
But they didn't tell us anything.
882
00:36:55.755 --> 00:36:59.395
So we eventually take off like seven hours late. Fine.
883
00:36:59.945 --> 00:37:01.355
Here I was being like, you know,
884
00:37:01.435 --> 00:37:03.915
I was complaining about my slight delay in
885
00:37:03.915 --> 00:37:04.955
the grand scheme of life.
886
00:37:05.335 --> 00:37:08.525
Not all that bad. While this was all happening,
887
00:37:08.905 --> 00:37:11.045
we were getting regular updates from my friend
888
00:37:11.205 --> 00:37:12.405
and colleague, Townsend Bell.
889
00:37:13.975 --> 00:37:17.015
Townsend was also having some travel issues,
890
00:37:17.155 --> 00:37:18.575
as a lot of people were this past week.
891
00:37:18.575 --> 00:37:19.775
There was some crazy weather, whatever.
892
00:37:19.775 --> 00:37:21.215
There was some weather, which we
893
00:37:21.215 --> 00:37:22.375
didn't even even cover the tornado.
894
00:37:22.835 --> 00:37:24.535
We didn't cover the tornado. It wasn't a real tornado.
895
00:37:24.655 --> 00:37:26.375
I don't think it was over. It was exaggerated. It's fine.
896
00:37:26.875 --> 00:37:29.895
Um, but a tornado did. Oh no it didn't.
897
00:37:30.055 --> 00:37:31.855
I was, someone replied to like one of the tweets
898
00:37:31.855 --> 00:37:33.055
of somebody posting a picture, like
899
00:37:33.055 --> 00:37:34.935
that's actually just a something, something cloud.
900
00:37:34.935 --> 00:37:37.215
And there was not actually a tornado looked,
901
00:37:37.215 --> 00:37:38.335
Uh, tornado to
Me.
902
00:37:38.715 --> 00:37:39.935
It was definitely tornado adjacent.
903
00:37:40.595 --> 00:37:45.215
So anyway, we proceed to get updates on Townsend's travel.
904
00:37:45.745 --> 00:37:48.535
Those acute, uh, very aware listeners
905
00:37:48.675 --> 00:37:51.335
and followers of Indy Carr watching Practice One would've
906
00:37:51.335 --> 00:37:54.215
noted the absence of one Townsend ballot on the broadcast
907
00:37:54.765 --> 00:37:56.695
when Townsend finally got to the track.
908
00:37:57.355 --> 00:37:59.175
Um, I had him tell us the story.
909
00:37:59.435 --> 00:38:01.295
I'm gonna play it for you now. I
910
00:38:01.295 --> 00:38:03.615
Left my house at 10:00 AM on Thursday. .
911
00:38:05.045 --> 00:38:07.495
What time is it? What time is it? What time is it?
912
00:38:07.495 --> 00:38:10.415
It's midday Saturday. It's noon on Saturday in Iowa. .
913
00:38:11.035 --> 00:38:14.535
No way. Walk us through it. Wow. Uh, let's see.
914
00:38:14.645 --> 00:38:16.775
Started out at LAX flight,
915
00:38:16.775 --> 00:38:19.095
delayed weather in Denver was my connection.
916
00:38:19.515 --> 00:38:20.695
Delays, delays, delays.
917
00:38:20.695 --> 00:38:24.455
Finally boarded the plane, sat at the gate, closed the door,
918
00:38:24.455 --> 00:38:27.855
opened the door, deplaned us, uh,
919
00:38:28.095 --> 00:38:29.455
wouldn't make my connection.
920
00:38:29.455 --> 00:38:31.095
So I was gonna spend the night at Denver Airport.
921
00:38:31.175 --> 00:38:32.655
I said, okay, I'll just try to again tomorrow.
922
00:38:33.485 --> 00:38:34.735
Went to Friday, went back
923
00:38:34.735 --> 00:38:36.190
to the airports and went back home.
924
00:38:36.625 --> 00:38:39.205
Had a great night. Went back to the airport.
925
00:38:39.435 --> 00:38:41.005
Same thing happened. Boarded the plane.
926
00:38:41.005 --> 00:38:42.445
Weather delays this time,
927
00:38:42.545 --> 00:38:43.845
taxied all the way out to the runway.
928
00:38:44.145 --> 00:38:45.965
Sat for two hours on the plane, came back
929
00:38:45.965 --> 00:38:47.525
to the gate, deplaned us.
930
00:38:48.185 --> 00:38:49.685
Now I'm getting a little worried about getting here.
931
00:38:50.425 --> 00:38:53.725
So in a panic, I booked a ticket on Delta
932
00:38:53.835 --> 00:38:57.005
that left in about 40 minutes on the opposite side of LAX,
933
00:38:57.005 --> 00:38:58.125
which is about a mile and a half.
934
00:38:58.275 --> 00:39:00.045
Started running to get that flight.
935
00:39:00.265 --> 00:39:02.685
Got a text that the United flight was actually gonna leave
936
00:39:02.685 --> 00:39:05.725
after all turned around, went back to the plane,
937
00:39:06.075 --> 00:39:07.445
then they canceled that flight, .
938
00:39:09.185 --> 00:39:11.285
So, so then I didn't have time
939
00:39:11.285 --> 00:39:12.725
to get the delta that I bought.
940
00:39:12.785 --> 00:39:15.965
So then I bought another Delta flight, red Eye to Detroit,
941
00:39:17.255 --> 00:39:18.325
which was delayed.
942
00:39:19.385 --> 00:39:22.645
Uh, got to Detroit, uh, had a three hour layover.
943
00:39:22.715 --> 00:39:25.085
Then my flight to Des Moines was delayed as well
944
00:39:25.085 --> 00:39:26.365
for mechanical loose wire.
945
00:39:26.425 --> 00:39:28.245
So that took about an hour and a half to fix.
946
00:39:28.905 --> 00:39:30.725
And finally I'm here. Yay.
947
00:39:31.145 --> 00:39:32.325
You got the whole gamut, man.
948
00:39:32.325 --> 00:39:36.125
That's so my takeaway there is God didn't want
949
00:39:36.125 --> 00:39:37.485
Townsend on the broadcast.
950
00:39:38.465 --> 00:39:41.925
Uh, , I think the takeaway there was
951
00:39:43.065 --> 00:39:45.805
nobody wanted anybody to be in Iowa for that race.
952
00:39:45.805 --> 00:39:46.805
Yeah.
953
00:39:47.345 --> 00:39:48.605
Um,
But yes, I,
954
00:39:48.605 --> 00:39:50.645
And it, and it seems that people took the message.
955
00:39:51.285 --> 00:39:52.565
A lot of people got the message .
956
00:39:53.385 --> 00:39:57.565
Um, but you know, I think it was one of those like nice, uh,
957
00:39:57.565 --> 00:39:58.845
moments of, uh,
958
00:39:59.725 --> 00:40:01.485
bringing everything into perspective when I
959
00:40:01.485 --> 00:40:02.805
was complaining about a slight delay.
960
00:40:02.805 --> 00:40:04.205
I just got in late the same day.
961
00:40:04.245 --> 00:40:06.485
Townsend took like, took four, eight hours to get
962
00:40:06.485 --> 00:40:07.885
to Iowa from la.
963
00:40:08.465 --> 00:40:11.085
So it was comically bad.
964
00:40:11.755 --> 00:40:15.285
Well, onto Toronto, your ancestral homeland,
965
00:40:15.985 --> 00:40:18.005
My all
From your backdrop
966
00:40:18.025 --> 00:40:20.125
and lack of good gear that you were already there.
967
00:40:20.785 --> 00:40:22.445
Yes. I do apologize for forgetting my gear.
968
00:40:22.665 --> 00:40:27.605
Uh, that was on me , but you know, we packed for Iowa
969
00:40:28.185 --> 00:40:29.445
and then I flew straight to Toronto.
970
00:40:29.545 --> 00:40:31.805
We do this weekend I fly from Toronto straight to Laguna.
971
00:40:31.805 --> 00:40:33.325
So I was, I was packed for a while
972
00:40:33.825 --> 00:40:35.685
and I just, it, I it's, I don't know.
973
00:40:35.685 --> 00:40:38.085
It skipped it. Skipped my thing.
974
00:40:38.205 --> 00:40:40.125
I might send Alex to the house to go pick it up actually,
975
00:40:40.125 --> 00:40:41.245
so we can have it for next week.
976
00:40:42.545 --> 00:40:46.035
Oh, are you not? 'cause are you going straight from
977
00:40:46.225 --> 00:40:47.715
Toronto to straight to
978
00:40:47.715 --> 00:40:48.715
Laguna?
979
00:40:48.715 --> 00:40:50.435
I literally just said that. Yeah, I'm sorry.
980
00:40:50.435 --> 00:40:51.755
So that's, that's on you if it's, I'm
981
00:40:51.755 --> 00:40:52.755
In a lot of pain.
.
982
00:40:53.225 --> 00:40:56.115
Well, well, um, um,
983
00:40:56.535 --> 00:40:58.915
is it really good if I have my equipment?
984
00:40:59.065 --> 00:41:01.475
Yeah, that would be good. Okay. I'll ask him to go get it.
985
00:41:02.295 --> 00:41:04.515
Uh, so yes, excited always to come back.
986
00:41:04.775 --> 00:41:07.315
Um, you know, this was the race that made me fall in love
987
00:41:07.315 --> 00:41:10.355
with the sport, made me fall in love with IndyCar.
988
00:41:11.135 --> 00:41:13.675
And uh, it's always fun and exciting coming back.
989
00:41:13.815 --> 00:41:14.955
So we're here now.
990
00:41:15.125 --> 00:41:18.595
Becky and I, Becky drove, excuse me, on Sunday
991
00:41:19.055 --> 00:41:20.675
and then I flew here, met her here
992
00:41:21.255 --> 00:41:23.755
and had more delays coming back.
993
00:41:24.035 --> 00:41:25.995
Actually I had like a four hour delay in Chicago
994
00:41:25.995 --> 00:41:27.035
coming back from Iowa.
995
00:41:27.615 --> 00:41:30.955
So I walked, um, I think I walked like over three miles
996
00:41:30.975 --> 00:41:32.275
around O'Hare airport.
997
00:41:32.735 --> 00:41:34.245
So here's the other part of my travel story.
998
00:41:34.355 --> 00:41:35.445
This is kind of the fun part.
999
00:41:35.645 --> 00:41:36.725
I haven't told anybody this yet.
1000
00:41:38.175 --> 00:41:42.395
So check in in Iowa, fly to Chicago. Four hour delay.
1001
00:41:43.175 --> 00:41:44.195
So I don't like just sitting,
1002
00:41:44.305 --> 00:41:46.355
like I didn't wanna just go to the lounge and whatever.
1003
00:41:46.435 --> 00:41:47.915
I don't wanna, so I had a quick bite to eat
1004
00:41:47.915 --> 00:41:49.675
and I just started walking and I walked in
1005
00:41:49.675 --> 00:41:53.355
and out of every terminal, I walked by every gate at O'Hare
1006
00:41:53.615 --> 00:41:56.475
and walked around for like three miles, got back to my gate,
1007
00:41:56.695 --> 00:42:00.035
sat down and then, uh, like, okay, it's time to board
1008
00:42:00.905 --> 00:42:02.365
now at this point it's like two 30
1009
00:42:02.365 --> 00:42:03.405
in the morning or something stupid.
1010
00:42:03.425 --> 00:42:05.085
No, no, it's one 30 in the morning.
1011
00:42:05.785 --> 00:42:08.685
And we've walked, I've walked literally in
1012
00:42:08.685 --> 00:42:12.655
and out of the entire airport stand up like,
1013
00:42:12.655 --> 00:42:14.055
all right everybody get your passports ready.
1014
00:42:14.055 --> 00:42:15.255
We're boarding the flight to Toronto.
1015
00:42:16.515 --> 00:42:17.615
Tim, I can't find my passport.
1016
00:42:19.955 --> 00:42:23.055
, my passport sits in the same pocket of my pan.
1017
00:42:23.135 --> 00:42:24.935
I used it to check in in Des Moines.
1018
00:42:25.765 --> 00:42:28.045
I put it in my pocket that I always put it in. So
1019
00:42:28.045 --> 00:42:29.285
You had to retrace your steps,
1020
00:42:30.385 --> 00:42:32.325
Tim, you couldn't even try.
1021
00:42:34.585 --> 00:42:38.065
I had 10 minutes to board and I had three miles to cover.
1022
00:42:40.065 --> 00:42:43.685
And so I was just like, oh my God. Oh my god. What?
1023
00:42:44.345 --> 00:42:47.125
So my options were don't get on the plane.
1024
00:42:48.305 --> 00:42:50.875
Retrace three miles of steps in the middle
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00:42:50.875 --> 00:42:51.995
of the night at O'Hare.
1026
00:42:52.435 --> 00:42:54.955
Probably would've gotten some looks from the security
1027
00:42:55.015 --> 00:42:57.915
and the staff that's like there getting the place ready
1028
00:42:57.915 --> 00:43:00.875
for tomorrow and not even know if I'm gonna find it
1029
00:43:01.875 --> 00:43:06.865
or get on the plane using my other passport.
1030
00:43:07.185 --> 00:43:09.585
'cause I have dual citizenship with the UK
1031
00:43:10.895 --> 00:43:14.395
and go get a new passport.
1032
00:43:14.395 --> 00:43:18.865
When I got to Canada, the irony was Monday morning I had an
1033
00:43:18.865 --> 00:43:20.145
appointment with the embassy
1034
00:43:20.175 --> 00:43:22.465
because I had to renew that passport.
1035
00:43:22.685 --> 00:43:24.545
It was almost expired. That's part
1036
00:43:24.545 --> 00:43:25.825
of the reason I came straight here,
1037
00:43:26.005 --> 00:43:27.065
was to get it done early.
1038
00:43:27.825 --> 00:43:31.835
Yeah. So now I'm not doing a passport renewal.
1039
00:43:32.505 --> 00:43:33.955
I've gotta do a whole new, because you've gotta
1040
00:43:33.955 --> 00:43:35.595
send in your old passport. Yeah,
1041
00:43:35.595 --> 00:43:36.595
Yeah, yeah,
Yeah.
1042
00:43:36.595 --> 00:43:38.355
So now it's like a whole, and so I was just like,
1043
00:43:38.415 --> 00:43:39.555
oh my God, this is awful.
1044
00:43:39.775 --> 00:43:42.475
So I, I showed my other id, the guy let me on the plane.
1045
00:43:42.755 --> 00:43:44.715
I landed, I go to customs, you know,
1046
00:43:44.715 --> 00:43:45.995
I've got Nexus, but I skipped out.
1047
00:43:46.035 --> 00:43:47.795
I just go straight to the, to the thing to talk to a person.
1048
00:43:47.875 --> 00:43:50.075
I was like, hi. Pretty sure I lost
1049
00:43:50.075 --> 00:43:51.475
my passport and my connection.
1050
00:43:51.695 --> 00:43:52.795
And they're like, got it.
1051
00:43:53.215 --> 00:43:56.035
So whatever filled out whatever paperwork got me through.
1052
00:43:56.615 --> 00:43:57.635
And so now I've been going.
1053
00:43:57.735 --> 00:43:59.755
But, but to do a full passport,
1054
00:43:59.785 --> 00:44:01.435
full new passport. You know what you need
1055
00:44:01.905 --> 00:44:03.595
Your birth certificate then? Birth
1056
00:44:03.835 --> 00:44:04.835
Certificate.
1057
00:44:04.835 --> 00:44:06.035
Do you know what's not in Toronto with me?
1058
00:44:06.035 --> 00:44:07.395
And it's at my home in Indianapolis.
1059
00:44:08.815 --> 00:44:13.275
Oh, fun.
So good friend Bobby Delve, swung by my house,
1060
00:44:13.615 --> 00:44:16.355
uh, yesterday morning and Monday morning.
1061
00:44:16.625 --> 00:44:18.475
Grabbed it, threw it in the mail.
1062
00:44:18.735 --> 00:44:20.395
It should be here as we're recording.
1063
00:44:20.535 --> 00:44:22.315
It should be here by now. It's not.
1064
00:44:23.095 --> 00:44:25.875
And, uh, I have to run to the embassy
1065
00:44:25.875 --> 00:44:29.195
and go get an emergency redone passport.
1066
00:44:29.945 --> 00:44:34.365
Okay, well, uh, have fun with that. It's nice to see
1067
00:44:34.365 --> 00:44:35.445
That. I won't, I promise you I won't.
1068
00:44:36.035 --> 00:44:39.565
It's nice to see for once, uh, it benefited a Canadian
1069
00:44:39.745 --> 00:44:41.045
to be part of the
1070
00:44:41.045 --> 00:44:42.045
Commonwealth
.
1071
00:44:44.625 --> 00:44:47.405
I'm not gonna dignify that statement with a response. Yes.
1072
00:44:47.545 --> 00:44:50.365
All right. So wish me luck at the Passport office.
1073
00:44:50.595 --> 00:44:52.925
I'll wish you luck with whatever you've got going on.
1074
00:44:53.225 --> 00:44:55.845
And I hope the new dentist is better than the last one.
1075
00:44:57.515 --> 00:44:59.405
This has been off track with Hinch and Rossi.
1076
00:44:59.585 --> 00:45:02.725
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1077
00:45:03.145 --> 00:45:04.165
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1078
00:45:04.165 --> 00:45:06.365
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1079
00:45:06.365 --> 00:45:07.525
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1080
00:45:08.245 --> 00:45:10.445
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1081
00:45:10.625 --> 00:45:13.365
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1082
00:45:13.585 --> 00:45:16.245
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1083
00:45:16.245 --> 00:45:17.605
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1084
00:45:17.825 --> 00:45:19.325
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1085
00:45:19.325 --> 00:45:20.965
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1086
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1087
00:45:24.235 --> 00:45:26.165
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1088
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