WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.195 --> 00:00:01.445 This is off track. 2 00:00:02.905 --> 00:00:05.645 So what are we gonna talk about for 45 minutes here? 3 00:00:05.735 --> 00:00:06.735 Jimbo . 4 00:00:07.505 --> 00:00:10.245 So, Merry Christmas. Merry 5 00:00:10.285 --> 00:00:11.285 Christmas, Tim. 6 00:00:11.285 --> 00:00:12.045 It's Christmas week. It's 7 00:00:12.045 --> 00:00:13.045 Not Christmas yet. 8 00:00:13.045 --> 00:00:14.925 It's not Christmas yet, but like we're, when 9 00:00:14.925 --> 00:00:15.925 This comes out Christmas Eve. 10 00:00:15.985 --> 00:00:16.985 Eve, 11 00:00:17.335 --> 00:00:20.175 Christmas Eve? No, 12 00:00:20.715 --> 00:00:22.895 No, it's the Eve the fourth. 13 00:00:23.515 --> 00:00:25.135 No, come out the 23rd. That's 14 00:00:25.135 --> 00:00:26.135 Not Christmas. 15 00:00:26.135 --> 00:00:27.175 Eve. Eve, that's the 23rd. 16 00:00:27.485 --> 00:00:28.975 It's the eve of Christmas Eve. 17 00:00:28.975 --> 00:00:31.215 It's technically Christmas Eve. Eve, bro. Yeah, 18 00:00:31.595 --> 00:00:33.655 No, I hate to agree with Tim on this one. But 19 00:00:33.765 --> 00:00:36.895 Like Christmas Eve, Eve would be the evening 20 00:00:36.995 --> 00:00:38.575 of Christmas Eve, which would be the 21 00:00:38.575 --> 00:00:39.575 21st? 22 00:00:39.575 --> 00:00:41.735 No, it's the, because you're saying like Eve, like the night 23 00:00:41.735 --> 00:00:44.655 before, using that context like all Hollows 24 00:00:44.715 --> 00:00:45.935 Eve or Christmas Eve. 25 00:00:45.955 --> 00:00:47.935 So this is the night before. The night before. Yeah. 26 00:00:47.935 --> 00:00:51.455 But all Hollows Eve is talking about that night. No, 27 00:00:51.485 --> 00:00:54.215 It's, it's the night before November 1st, 28 00:00:54.305 --> 00:00:55.535 which is All Saints Day. 29 00:00:56.935 --> 00:00:58.635 So it should be All Saints E then 30 00:00:58.635 --> 00:00:59.715 That's how all Hallows Eve. 31 00:01:00.345 --> 00:01:01.995 Well, it should be All Saints Eve then. 32 00:01:02.675 --> 00:01:05.125 Well, it wasn't. So that's where we are. 33 00:01:05.575 --> 00:01:08.205 Right. So where, where we are is, 34 00:01:08.205 --> 00:01:09.965 you're not entirely correct. 35 00:01:10.145 --> 00:01:11.245 You're not entirely wrong. 36 00:01:12.025 --> 00:01:13.965 I'm pretty sure. I think you're just, 37 00:01:13.965 --> 00:01:15.325 it was a weird hill for you to die on. 38 00:01:15.595 --> 00:01:16.725 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 39 00:01:17.025 --> 00:01:20.045 So Christmas Eve, Eve, Eve is the 22nd. Yeah, 40 00:01:20.565 --> 00:01:21.325 I suppose. Yeah. 41 00:01:21.545 --> 00:01:23.365 No, no, you guys are, no, you could do it 42 00:01:23.365 --> 00:01:25.745 In perpetuity Because you, you like, 43 00:01:25.745 --> 00:01:27.505 you call the 24th Christmas Eve, 44 00:01:27.505 --> 00:01:28.585 right? Like that's the whole day. 45 00:01:29.005 --> 00:01:30.225 The Eve before. Yeah. Yeah. 46 00:01:30.305 --> 00:01:32.345 'cause it's the, the night before the eve Christmas, 47 00:01:32.345 --> 00:01:33.545 you know, Eve is short for evening. 48 00:01:34.315 --> 00:01:36.065 Right. So then why then during the day, 49 00:01:36.065 --> 00:01:37.425 do you still call it Christmas Eve? 50 00:01:38.155 --> 00:01:40.765 It's still the day it's, its thing. It's still 51 00:01:40.785 --> 00:01:42.485 The day you just said that Eve means evening. 52 00:01:42.875 --> 00:01:46.565 Yeah. Yeah, because we've taken Eve to mean the evening. 53 00:01:46.585 --> 00:01:47.965 Not gonna four different day 54 00:01:49.535 --> 00:01:50.965 still the same day of that evening. 55 00:01:51.245 --> 00:01:54.565 I don't under, I'm confused by your confusion here. Yeah. , 56 00:01:55.625 --> 00:01:56.925 I'm confused by the entire 57 00:01:57.205 --> 00:01:58.405 position you guys are are taking on this. 58 00:01:58.405 --> 00:01:59.605 Usually, usually it's Tim 59 00:01:59.605 --> 00:02:02.845 and you versus me trying to come up with some propaganda as 60 00:02:02.845 --> 00:02:03.885 to why you guys are wrong. 61 00:02:04.105 --> 00:02:05.105 But , 62 00:02:05.885 --> 00:02:08.125 I just think Christmas Eve Eve is a really poor 63 00:02:08.145 --> 00:02:09.325 way to say the 23rd. 64 00:02:09.715 --> 00:02:11.645 Well, guess what? It's the episode title now, 65 00:02:12.225 --> 00:02:13.925 and I'm use your photo 66 00:02:14.065 --> 00:02:15.685 for the thumbnail so it'll have it on 67 00:02:15.685 --> 00:02:17.365 there. You think either either of 68 00:02:17.365 --> 00:02:18.885 Those things affect my day at 69 00:02:18.885 --> 00:02:19.885 All? 70 00:02:19.885 --> 00:02:22.365 Think the 20, you think the 23rd is a more festive way 71 00:02:22.365 --> 00:02:23.565 of saying Christmas, e, ev 72 00:02:24.025 --> 00:02:26.925 or of saying that than saying Christmas Eve. 73 00:02:27.475 --> 00:02:29.965 It's a more accurate way and I think it has fewer 74 00:02:30.645 --> 00:02:31.645 Question marks. 75 00:02:31.645 --> 00:02:33.555 Honestly, honestly, I think it's in, 76 00:02:33.575 --> 00:02:37.855 in some ways it's more precise because 77 00:02:38.005 --> 00:02:39.935 Than the actual date of . 78 00:02:40.995 --> 00:02:43.175 Yes, because here's the thing, I am willing 79 00:02:43.195 --> 00:02:45.135 to argue that there are certain <crosstalk>, 80 00:02:45.155 --> 00:02:47.415 We know that, That there are certain individuals 81 00:02:47.415 --> 00:02:49.695 that do not know what day 82 00:02:50.495 --> 00:02:52.175 Christmas Eve is. So the fact that 83 00:02:52.615 --> 00:02:53.615 Christmas like The date. 84 00:02:53.615 --> 00:02:54.855 Yes. So that means 85 00:02:54.995 --> 00:02:56.335 You think there are people that don't know 86 00:02:56.685 --> 00:02:58.935 that Christmas Eve is the 24th of December? 87 00:02:59.705 --> 00:03:01.285 Yes. I That's 88 00:03:02.095 --> 00:03:04.315 Tim, you can, you 89 00:03:04.315 --> 00:03:05.995 Can have the Christmas Eve thing with him. 90 00:03:05.995 --> 00:03:07.555 I But you are not siding with him on this. 91 00:03:07.955 --> 00:03:11.435 I I'm trying to dude, like think of who, uh, . No, 92 00:03:11.975 --> 00:03:14.315 I'm not saying, I'm not saying anyone that we know. 93 00:03:14.495 --> 00:03:16.435 I'm saying you've seen some of these videos 94 00:03:16.575 --> 00:03:18.555 and they're like named three countries 95 00:03:18.735 --> 00:03:23.315 and it's like America, California, that's . 96 00:03:24.335 --> 00:03:26.995 That's, there are a lot of stupid people. 97 00:03:27.095 --> 00:03:30.355 So there are, so I feel like people might not know 98 00:03:30.355 --> 00:03:33.115 that Christmas Eve, it's December 24th, whereas if you say 99 00:03:33.795 --> 00:03:35.435 Christmas Eve Eve, they'll be like, oh. 100 00:03:35.435 --> 00:03:37.875 So that's the day before, the day before Christmas. 101 00:03:38.695 --> 00:03:40.555 And you guys it wild were worried they 102 00:03:40.555 --> 00:03:44.595 wouldn't anything to talk about . It's 103 00:03:44.625 --> 00:03:47.195 Wild that you think that people that that 104 00:03:47.715 --> 00:03:49.915 challenged are gonna be able to decipher 105 00:03:49.915 --> 00:03:53.395 that rather than just know that Christmas the 24th. 106 00:03:53.695 --> 00:03:55.435 Listen James, this is not 107 00:03:56.315 --> 00:03:57.835 probably something that I should share. 108 00:03:58.255 --> 00:04:01.635 And it is not all her fault. 109 00:04:05.685 --> 00:04:08.115 Kelly. Kelly didn't know that <inaudible> was the 24th. 110 00:04:08.455 --> 00:04:13.075 No, but, uh, Kelly's, Kelly's studying for her, um, 111 00:04:13.575 --> 00:04:14.795 naturalization test. 112 00:04:15.595 --> 00:04:17.355 Hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm . 113 00:04:17.815 --> 00:04:21.975 And it did take a little bit for us to memorize 114 00:04:22.725 --> 00:04:24.295 what Bay Independence Day was. 115 00:04:24.595 --> 00:04:25.595 Oh, 116 00:04:25.885 --> 00:04:26.885 Really? 117 00:04:26.885 --> 00:04:27.625 Mm-hmm . Huh? 118 00:04:29.535 --> 00:04:33.485 Like, I would say the third biggest holiday. 119 00:04:34.675 --> 00:04:39.645 Yeah. It's July. The VE July . Correct. 120 00:04:40.635 --> 00:04:43.725 Correct. Um, like we've got it now 121 00:04:44.505 --> 00:04:47.125 and like we even know what the Federalist Papers are 122 00:04:47.425 --> 00:04:49.605 and you know who wrote them. 123 00:04:49.985 --> 00:04:51.325 So like, I think I have a copy 124 00:04:51.325 --> 00:04:52.565 of 'em over there. We've we've 125 00:04:53.085 --> 00:04:54.085 Progressed Significantly. 126 00:04:54.145 --> 00:04:57.685 So, so my point is it's not improbable to think. Right. 127 00:04:58.155 --> 00:05:00.165 Okay. I see how you got there. 128 00:05:00.815 --> 00:05:02.165 Let's now circle back to that. 129 00:05:02.545 --> 00:05:04.125 So the, the the, 130 00:05:04.285 --> 00:05:07.325 I guess it's like a preparatory like exam that you take, right? 131 00:05:07.385 --> 00:05:09.045 Or like mm-hmm . There's questions that you study. 132 00:05:09.295 --> 00:05:11.245 There are, and one of 'em was when's Independence Day? 133 00:05:11.265 --> 00:05:12.725 And she was like, well, I don't know. 134 00:05:13.145 --> 00:05:14.405 And you're like, well, July 4th. 135 00:05:14.505 --> 00:05:16.525 That's, that's what July 4th is. Like. 136 00:05:16.525 --> 00:05:17.365 You've heard of July 4th, 137 00:05:17.365 --> 00:05:18.525 you know that July 4th is a holiday. 138 00:05:18.555 --> 00:05:20.565 Sure. That's what it is. Independence Day. Sure. Oh, okay. 139 00:05:22.175 --> 00:05:25.395 Did it take more than that? No. Oh, okay. 140 00:05:25.475 --> 00:05:28.075 I you made it sound like it took her a while to like, for it 141 00:05:28.095 --> 00:05:30.675 to set in, you had to like remind her multiple times. 142 00:05:31.295 --> 00:05:32.795 But all of that I'm saying is like, 143 00:05:32.795 --> 00:05:34.275 these aren't just default things. 144 00:05:35.625 --> 00:05:36.925 Mm-hmm . Especially if you're Jewish. 145 00:05:37.545 --> 00:05:40.245 Touche. So she's Canadian. Touche Canadian. 146 00:05:40.245 --> 00:05:41.805 So why would she know what independence is? 147 00:05:42.385 --> 00:05:44.365 She gets less with past, 'cause she's lived in 148 00:05:44.365 --> 00:05:45.685 America for like eight years. 149 00:05:45.985 --> 00:05:47.205 So I don't, at this point 150 00:05:47.765 --> 00:05:49.125 probably should have known what Independence Day was. 151 00:05:49.445 --> 00:05:51.845 I don't know that they, well, really 152 00:05:52.825 --> 00:05:54.795 It's also like so close to Canada Day. 153 00:05:54.795 --> 00:05:56.915 That was like one of the cool things about them as we, 154 00:05:57.060 --> 00:05:58.885 our birthdays are kind of close. So 155 00:05:58.885 --> 00:06:00.165 Here's a, here's a fair statement. 156 00:06:00.245 --> 00:06:02.685 I have no idea what day Canada is. 157 00:06:03.065 --> 00:06:06.325 Are you serious? July 14th. July 14th. I, 158 00:06:06.915 --> 00:06:07.915 Yeah. 159 00:06:07.915 --> 00:06:08.965 Wow. And the fact 160 00:06:08.965 --> 00:06:11.365 that Tim doesn't either makes me feel so much better about my, 161 00:06:11.625 --> 00:06:12.625 For sure. 162 00:06:12.625 --> 00:06:14.285 You must feel like what You must feel Moon, 163 00:06:14.625 --> 00:06:17.005 You guys don't get to celebrate independence when you 164 00:06:17.045 --> 00:06:20.245 politely asked for independence and only kind of got it. 165 00:06:20.425 --> 00:06:23.445 So I don't accept that as a real holiday. Mm. 166 00:06:23.685 --> 00:06:25.005 I Disagree. Like ours involve 167 00:06:25.165 --> 00:06:27.245 treason, you know, and a war. That's how it should be. 168 00:06:27.315 --> 00:06:28.685 Yeah. You guys had a war about it. 169 00:06:29.425 --> 00:06:31.525 No. So we day asked this. Can today 170 00:06:32.125 --> 00:06:34.605 I am, I I I'm not entirely sure 171 00:06:34.605 --> 00:06:35.725 if you're <inaudible> with me or not. . 172 00:06:35.965 --> 00:06:37.325 Dude, I'm not. I have no idea. 173 00:06:37.425 --> 00:06:38.805 And honestly, I don't really care. 174 00:06:39.025 --> 00:06:40.445 I'm just more curious at this point. 175 00:06:40.705 --> 00:06:41.685 That's just hurtful. July. 176 00:06:42.115 --> 00:06:43.205 July. It's basically Canadian now. 177 00:06:43.275 --> 00:06:45.965 Well, no, he July 1st. He literally told you it was July. 178 00:06:46.555 --> 00:06:49.125 July 1st. July 1st. I knew it was July. Okay. 179 00:06:50.225 --> 00:06:52.005 Wow guys, I'm, I'm a little, 180 00:06:52.305 --> 00:06:54.245 I'm a little hurt. I'm a little hurt. So, 181 00:06:54.905 --> 00:06:57.165 So June 31st is Canada Eve. 182 00:06:57.825 --> 00:06:59.885 Yes. , we can agree on that. 183 00:07:01.145 --> 00:07:02.805 That's the name of the that's the title 184 00:07:02.825 --> 00:07:03.965 of the, of the episode. 185 00:07:04.115 --> 00:07:06.445 Wait, no. June, June 31st is Canada Day Eve. 186 00:07:06.785 --> 00:07:11.365 How many days in June? Oh, 30, 30 187 00:07:11.675 --> 00:07:12.675 June 30th. 188 00:07:12.675 --> 00:07:14.045 This is a mess. Yeah, this is a mess. 189 00:07:14.425 --> 00:07:17.285 So I, I do want you to tell her that, that 190 00:07:17.945 --> 00:07:20.645 you did not know what Candle day was. 191 00:07:20.915 --> 00:07:22.565 I'll make her feel better. Um, and, and 192 00:07:22.565 --> 00:07:26.445 Here's, here's, here's what's, um, pretty wild is, 193 00:07:27.305 --> 00:07:30.565 so the naturalization test, uh, for those 194 00:07:30.765 --> 00:07:34.605 that don't know is, um, they give you a sample 195 00:07:34.605 --> 00:07:35.925 of like 120 questions 196 00:07:37.155 --> 00:07:41.815 and they will ask you, I think 15 and you have to get 197 00:07:42.285 --> 00:07:44.735 Only 15, A 70% on it. 198 00:07:44.915 --> 00:07:45.975 So, so you can miss some. 199 00:07:46.595 --> 00:07:51.235 Um, but they recommend obviously memorizing all 120 200 00:07:51.305 --> 00:07:53.555 because, you know, for obvious reasons. 201 00:07:54.565 --> 00:07:57.925 I would say I only knew 202 00:07:59.995 --> 00:08:02.855 80, 85 of the 120. 203 00:08:03.005 --> 00:08:05.615 Like, I've actually learned some stuff helping 204 00:08:05.625 --> 00:08:07.095 Kelly study four. 205 00:08:07.495 --> 00:08:08.775 I kind of want to take that test now. 206 00:08:09.015 --> 00:08:10.575 I know, I'm, I'm super fascinated. 207 00:08:10.635 --> 00:08:12.455 Do you have the questions? Like is there like 208 00:08:12.455 --> 00:08:13.495 a, like a pdf f you 209 00:08:13.495 --> 00:08:14.495 Could send us? 210 00:08:14.495 --> 00:08:15.015 Yeah, send I'll send you the, I'll send you the pdf. 211 00:08:15.475 --> 00:08:16.775 Tim will get Yeah, I would love to do that. 212 00:08:17.295 --> 00:08:18.935 17 of the hundred 20, I'm sure. Yeah. 213 00:08:19.255 --> 00:08:20.255 I really wanna see how I do. 214 00:08:20.595 --> 00:08:21.735 So you got 80 Alex? 215 00:08:22.675 --> 00:08:25.655 No, I'm guesstimating that I I knew 80 216 00:08:25.875 --> 00:08:26.975 to 85 of them. Okay. 217 00:08:26.975 --> 00:08:27.975 Yeah. I didn't take the Test. 218 00:08:28.785 --> 00:08:30.015 Let's, but pick a number. 219 00:08:30.125 --> 00:08:33.045 Pick a number that you think you got 82 220 00:08:34.225 --> 00:08:35.225 A score. 221 00:08:35.225 --> 00:08:38.245 I didn't Well that would be look almost a d 222 00:08:40.195 --> 00:08:41.195 An 82. 223 00:08:41.725 --> 00:08:43.255 Well, no, 82 of one 20. 224 00:08:43.275 --> 00:08:45.295 That's pretty low percentage. Yeah, 225 00:08:45.565 --> 00:08:47.245 But is that like that roughly? 226 00:08:47.355 --> 00:08:49.765 Sure. I just wanna, yeah, 82. Sure. All right. 227 00:08:49.765 --> 00:08:51.285 I'm gonna take the test and I'm gonna see 228 00:08:51.425 --> 00:08:52.845 how far off what do think It's not a 229 00:08:52.845 --> 00:08:54.245 Test, it's just a study guide. 230 00:08:54.825 --> 00:08:57.205 No, no, but you gotta be pretty, those questions. Yeah. 231 00:08:57.205 --> 00:08:59.325 Yeah. Right. But the answers are there. 232 00:08:59.905 --> 00:09:03.025 So anyways, well, 233 00:09:03.025 --> 00:09:04.185 I'll see what I'm saying. I'll play around then, 234 00:09:04.365 --> 00:09:05.865 And then I'll, I'll take the Canadian one 235 00:09:05.865 --> 00:09:07.625 and I'll send it to you and we can compare notes. 236 00:09:07.805 --> 00:09:09.625 Oh Lord. My dad did the Canadian one, 237 00:09:09.725 --> 00:09:12.145 he got the five Great Lake wr, the five Great Lake 238 00:09:13.075 --> 00:09:14.785 Lakes names wrong 239 00:09:14.975 --> 00:09:16.825 because he was like, well, 240 00:09:16.825 --> 00:09:19.545 I didn't think Lake Michigan was a Canadian great Lake 241 00:09:20.375 --> 00:09:21.375 Bear. 242 00:09:22.975 --> 00:09:25.475 So I, I was, I was talking to a friend of mine about this 243 00:09:25.855 --> 00:09:27.875 and he, he was like, man, 244 00:09:28.295 --> 00:09:30.515 all Americans should have to take this test. 245 00:09:30.585 --> 00:09:34.515 Like, it should just be a good reminder every, you know, 246 00:09:34.905 --> 00:09:36.755 five to 10 years of the things 247 00:09:36.755 --> 00:09:38.555 that you forgot from high school history. 248 00:09:38.555 --> 00:09:42.715 Because unfortunately it doesn't all stay with you as much 249 00:09:42.715 --> 00:09:44.035 as you would think it does. 250 00:09:44.225 --> 00:09:45.915 Just like the pyre and theorem. 251 00:09:46.405 --> 00:09:50.035 Right. Okay. But so to that point, now that you've gone 252 00:09:50.035 --> 00:09:52.475 through the 120 or 125 questions 253 00:09:52.475 --> 00:09:54.235 or whatever that are potentially on the test. 254 00:09:54.495 --> 00:09:57.675 Mm, how many of them would you say are like, kind 255 00:09:57.675 --> 00:09:59.915 of super irrelevant in modern day? 256 00:09:59.915 --> 00:10:04.595 Like, there's no need for a a US citizen to know today. 257 00:10:06.295 --> 00:10:07.825 There's gotta be a couple in there, obviously. 258 00:10:07.825 --> 00:10:09.145 I'm gonna say the 35. I missed , 259 00:10:13.685 --> 00:10:15.305 But is it like, is it like, there were, 260 00:10:15.305 --> 00:10:17.225 there were five in there that you're like, all right, 261 00:10:17.295 --> 00:10:19.705 it's not, you know, 1884 anymore. 262 00:10:19.765 --> 00:10:20.945 We don't need to know that. 263 00:10:21.285 --> 00:10:24.195 Or is it like 30 that you're like, Ooh, 264 00:10:24.195 --> 00:10:25.795 this was clearly written a long time ago 265 00:10:25.795 --> 00:10:27.955 and this isn't super relevant anymore. Um, 266 00:10:28.415 --> 00:10:29.415 No. 267 00:10:29.415 --> 00:10:30.875 I'd say it's only a couple where you're like, 268 00:10:30.895 --> 00:10:32.075 that's pointless. 269 00:10:32.655 --> 00:10:33.875 The rest are, well, let's Good. I would say, 270 00:10:33.875 --> 00:10:36.035 I would say a solid hundred you should know. 271 00:10:36.835 --> 00:10:38.725 Fair enough. I don't, I don't hate that 272 00:10:38.865 --> 00:10:40.245 I'm all for, I'm all for civics 273 00:10:40.245 --> 00:10:41.565 and gov classes, uh, 274 00:10:41.565 --> 00:10:43.165 being taken more seriously in high 275 00:10:43.165 --> 00:10:44.365 school. Think it be good thing God 276 00:10:44.995 --> 00:10:47.325 Poli Sci University was my least favorite class. 277 00:10:47.825 --> 00:10:49.525 It was worse. I know that's not the same, 278 00:10:49.525 --> 00:10:50.965 But we obviously thank you so much. 279 00:10:51.155 --> 00:10:53.445 Took something out of it that, you know what day Canada is. 280 00:10:53.715 --> 00:10:55.605 Yeah. That wasn't covered. Nevermind. 281 00:10:56.225 --> 00:11:00.235 Um, I have a, I have a question. 282 00:11:01.225 --> 00:11:04.045 Has anyone ever asked you if you have like a, 283 00:11:05.185 --> 00:11:07.075 like a personal wealth goal? 284 00:11:07.735 --> 00:11:10.555 No. No. No one's ever asked you like, Hey, 285 00:11:10.555 --> 00:11:12.195 like what's your number that you could just, like, 286 00:11:13.105 --> 00:11:14.205 My Answer is not care anymore 287 00:11:14.755 --> 00:11:16.485 More, Just always more. 288 00:11:16.655 --> 00:11:18.845 There is not enough for Alex Rossi. Yeah. 289 00:11:19.115 --> 00:11:20.485 Okay. That's, That's a fair answer. 290 00:11:20.565 --> 00:11:22.125 I, I imagine that's a pretty common answer. 291 00:11:22.355 --> 00:11:23.805 Sure. Yeah. I'm not asking you 292 00:11:23.805 --> 00:11:24.925 to give me a number, Tim. 293 00:11:25.305 --> 00:11:26.925 I'm just saying that recently No, 294 00:11:26.925 --> 00:11:27.965 No one wouldn mind winning this Powerball 295 00:11:28.265 --> 00:11:30.285 or whatever for 1.5 billion 296 00:11:31.465 --> 00:11:32.465 1.5. 297 00:11:32.465 --> 00:11:35.205 Is it back again? It was just there. Yeah. Point 298 00:11:35.205 --> 00:11:36.205 Time. 299 00:11:36.205 --> 00:11:36.485 I saw it was like 900 something 300 00:11:36.485 --> 00:11:37.485 Not that is a drawing. 301 00:11:37.485 --> 00:11:40.725 Is there a drawing tonight? Tomorrow. Okay. Hell yeah. 302 00:11:40.725 --> 00:11:41.765 I have time to get to go 303 00:11:41.765 --> 00:11:42.765 Get some Ticks. 304 00:11:42.765 --> 00:11:44.765 Local pm Shout out Connor da 305 00:11:45.495 --> 00:11:48.085 Shout out God or no. 306 00:11:48.105 --> 00:11:50.465 But I, I've been asked that question before 307 00:11:50.465 --> 00:11:51.745 and I've thought about that question before 308 00:11:52.245 --> 00:11:54.965 and it was always, you know, just like some number. 309 00:11:55.015 --> 00:11:58.895 Right. But I think I've changed my opinion on this. Now. 310 00:11:59.115 --> 00:12:01.495 Is the number higher or lower? That's all we need to know. 311 00:12:01.925 --> 00:12:04.725 It's not a number, huh? Yeah. 312 00:12:05.105 --> 00:12:07.965 My new, my new personal wealth goal is 313 00:12:09.475 --> 00:12:10.475 Happiness. 314 00:12:10.705 --> 00:12:13.055 Is, is Fulfilling. 315 00:12:13.175 --> 00:12:15.055 Have an iPhone without, have an iPhone without a 316 00:12:15.055 --> 00:12:17.135 case. . 'cause 317 00:12:17.135 --> 00:12:18.615 If I'm Christian, Rasmussen's there, , 318 00:12:19.215 --> 00:12:20.615 Well, good on 'em. 319 00:12:20.715 --> 00:12:21.895 I'm not because Okay. 320 00:12:21.955 --> 00:12:23.135 The way I look at it, right, 321 00:12:24.185 --> 00:12:26.165 if you have an iPhone without a case, you need 322 00:12:26.165 --> 00:12:28.615 to have a brand new iPhone as a backup, 323 00:12:28.885 --> 00:12:30.655 basically on your person at all times. 324 00:12:30.785 --> 00:12:33.375 Right. Or like within, very close to you. 325 00:12:33.395 --> 00:12:35.535 You need to have a, an immediate backup. Right? 326 00:12:35.605 --> 00:12:37.295 This is how I would want to conduct myself 327 00:12:38.095 --> 00:12:40.515 and with how often I drop my phone and I have a case. 328 00:12:40.875 --> 00:12:42.155 'cause clearly I haven't reached my goal yet. 329 00:12:42.235 --> 00:12:43.875 I have a scooch case. This is not an ad. 330 00:12:43.915 --> 00:12:45.955 I love these things that are amazing. Scooch wing men. 331 00:12:45.955 --> 00:12:50.125 Shout out those guys. I, I'm gonna guess based on 332 00:12:50.125 --> 00:12:53.045 how often I drop my phone, I would probably smash 333 00:12:53.875 --> 00:12:55.085 five iPhones a year. 334 00:12:56.415 --> 00:13:00.315 So that means that I need to be comfortable spending 335 00:13:01.905 --> 00:13:05.485 the cost of like six iPhones a year 336 00:13:06.155 --> 00:13:09.605 without really it bothering me or affecting anything. 337 00:13:11.035 --> 00:13:13.855 And I'm just not there. I'm just not there. What 338 00:13:13.855 --> 00:13:18.705 I've gleaned from this, um, conversation is, 339 00:13:18.845 --> 00:13:19.865 uh, two things. 340 00:13:21.135 --> 00:13:24.535 One, you've never heard of phone insurance 341 00:13:25.075 --> 00:13:28.095 and two, you are inspired by drug dealers. 342 00:13:28.515 --> 00:13:30.415 The first one I follow, I I See the first one. 343 00:13:30.565 --> 00:13:33.735 Yeah. . The second one. I have questions. 344 00:13:34.045 --> 00:13:35.135 They always have like, it like, do you 345 00:13:35.135 --> 00:13:36.215 think of it as like a burner phone? 346 00:13:36.365 --> 00:13:39.385 They always have two phones. Dude. They always have two 347 00:13:39.385 --> 00:13:40.385 Phones. 348 00:13:40.385 --> 00:13:41.385 Oh. I mean, a lot of people have two phones. 349 00:13:41.705 --> 00:13:43.545 A lot of people have like a work phone and a personal 350 00:13:43.545 --> 00:13:44.545 Phone. 351 00:13:44.545 --> 00:13:46.145 Well, okay, but again, the second phone is an active, 352 00:13:46.325 --> 00:13:49.625 the second phone is in a box in your like backpack or 353 00:13:49.625 --> 00:13:51.465 Like, let's just stick to the first, the first thing. 354 00:13:51.575 --> 00:13:53.025 Have you ever heard of phone insurance? 355 00:13:54.255 --> 00:13:57.395 Um, I rock a case more so 356 00:13:57.395 --> 00:13:59.635 because it's just too slippery without it. 357 00:13:59.695 --> 00:14:02.595 Yes. Not 'cause I'm concerned about damaging it. Mm-hmm . 358 00:14:02.675 --> 00:14:06.115 And I will go through two a year, potentially three. 359 00:14:06.815 --> 00:14:09.835 And it costs me, I don't know, $8 a month 360 00:14:09.975 --> 00:14:12.315 and they just send me a new one. So, so 361 00:14:12.315 --> 00:14:13.755 You, you, I feel like you is that 362 00:14:14.335 --> 00:14:18.145 If you can afford $96, then you've hit your 363 00:14:18.545 --> 00:14:19.545 Personal Is that through Apple? 364 00:14:19.605 --> 00:14:21.305 No, it's through Verizon dog. Through 365 00:14:21.305 --> 00:14:22.305 Your provider. 366 00:14:22.305 --> 00:14:26.905 You get phone insurance. Yeah. Or eight bucks a month. 367 00:14:27.005 --> 00:14:29.385 And if you smash a brand new iPhone, run over 368 00:14:29.385 --> 00:14:30.385 With my car. 369 00:14:30.385 --> 00:14:31.345 It'll just send you a new 370 00:14:31.345 --> 00:14:33.465 IPhone throw pool for s and giggles. Yeah. 371 00:14:33.685 --> 00:14:36.855 And you're, Hmm. And your premiums never go up? 372 00:14:37.435 --> 00:14:38.455 No. I gotta be honest, 373 00:14:38.575 --> 00:14:40.775 I don't know if my provider offers that service. 374 00:14:41.275 --> 00:14:42.335 You probably do. Just never thought 375 00:14:42.335 --> 00:14:43.335 About it like a clown. 376 00:14:44.275 --> 00:14:46.975 What's that? You're on at t like a clown . 377 00:14:49.015 --> 00:14:53.565 I got Verizon internet, so Oh. Oh wait. Does Verizon own 378 00:14:54.455 --> 00:14:55.455 No. 379 00:14:55.455 --> 00:14:57.315 Xfinity? No. Comcast does. 380 00:14:57.415 --> 00:15:00.365 Oh. Oh yeah. I got Comcast. That's who I got. 381 00:15:01.035 --> 00:15:02.645 Anyways, well get phone insurance 382 00:15:02.705 --> 00:15:04.645 and then you've hit your wealth goal, then you'll need 383 00:15:04.645 --> 00:15:05.645 to come up with something new because, 384 00:15:05.845 --> 00:15:07.365 'cause I took this outta the case to clean it 385 00:15:07.425 --> 00:15:09.885 and I was just like, God, it feels so nice. 386 00:15:10.465 --> 00:15:12.205 You're right. It is way too slippery. Mm-hmm . 387 00:15:12.285 --> 00:15:13.525 And like, without something to hold it, 388 00:15:13.745 --> 00:15:15.765 it is way less practical. 389 00:15:15.955 --> 00:15:18.285 Sure. But there's just something so nice about being able 390 00:15:18.285 --> 00:15:20.365 to rock a, a caseless phone. 391 00:15:20.475 --> 00:15:23.285 Well, again, Christian Rasmussen rocks a 392 00:15:23.285 --> 00:15:25.405 caseless phone at all times. Chrism 393 00:15:25.405 --> 00:15:27.805 Christian Rasmuson walks a line of risk 394 00:15:27.805 --> 00:15:29.125 that I am not comfortable with. 395 00:15:29.315 --> 00:15:30.925 Okay. both on track and off. 396 00:15:31.235 --> 00:15:33.285 That, that, that that kid is reckless. 397 00:15:33.505 --> 00:15:37.045 And I, and I am not here for it on his offtrack stuff, 398 00:15:37.045 --> 00:15:39.165 the OnTrack stuff, it's very entertaining 399 00:15:39.385 --> 00:15:41.045 for me in my current role. 400 00:15:41.995 --> 00:15:44.125 Scarier for you guys that are sharing the track with him, 401 00:15:44.465 --> 00:15:46.485 but he's pulling it off, so credit to him, 402 00:15:46.825 --> 00:15:48.525 but I'm just not, I'm just not there. 403 00:15:48.905 --> 00:15:50.085 I'm just not there. Fair. It 404 00:15:50.085 --> 00:15:52.085 Just feels naked having your phone outta the case. 405 00:15:52.205 --> 00:15:54.205 I just took it out and I, they do, 406 00:15:54.205 --> 00:15:55.525 they, I mean, they look incredible. 407 00:15:55.715 --> 00:15:57.685 Like, shout out Apple, apple designers 408 00:15:57.875 --> 00:15:58.885 Feel incredible. Um, 409 00:15:59.485 --> 00:16:02.175 Yeah, it's just for me it's the, the slippage. 410 00:16:02.435 --> 00:16:04.055 Um, all right. Yeah. So 411 00:16:06.065 --> 00:16:07.855 Let's, I mean, it is Christmas week. 412 00:16:08.455 --> 00:16:10.815 I know we have probably had this conversation multiple times 413 00:16:10.815 --> 00:16:13.295 over the years, but we get new listen listeners every month. 414 00:16:13.625 --> 00:16:14.815 Would you ask for from Santa? 415 00:16:15.165 --> 00:16:17.295 Sure. We can do that. And let's just talk about like 416 00:16:17.535 --> 00:16:19.415 Christmas traditions, you know, if you have any 417 00:16:19.515 --> 00:16:21.295 or if you had any growing up Yeah. 418 00:16:21.295 --> 00:16:24.095 That you had fun memories of Let's go around the horn and, 419 00:16:24.155 --> 00:16:26.775 and talk about Christmas traditions. Timbo. 420 00:16:26.955 --> 00:16:28.695 Oh, we're starting with me. Alright. Yeah. 421 00:16:29.195 --> 00:16:32.895 It did occur to me yesterday that I have never been outside 422 00:16:32.895 --> 00:16:34.175 of Indiana for Christmas. 423 00:16:34.485 --> 00:16:36.215 Okay. Uh, so I'm always, I've, 424 00:16:36.215 --> 00:16:38.855 I've always either lived in India or come home for it. 425 00:16:38.855 --> 00:16:40.815 Back in the day we used to go down to Seymour Indiana 426 00:16:40.955 --> 00:16:43.935 to go spend it with my, uh, my grandparents don't really do 427 00:16:43.935 --> 00:16:45.255 that anymore, but yeah. 428 00:16:45.255 --> 00:16:47.985 So it's just always coming home. I don't know. 429 00:16:48.025 --> 00:16:49.865 I I didn't ask for anything this year though. 430 00:16:50.045 --> 00:16:51.225 Did you guys ask for anything good? 431 00:16:51.685 --> 00:16:53.185 No, I feel like you reach an age 432 00:16:53.285 --> 00:16:55.265 and it's not really about that anymore. 433 00:16:55.745 --> 00:16:57.985 I also feel like I don't have impulse control. 434 00:16:58.485 --> 00:17:01.785 So like, whenever I see something that I, I'm, it'd be like, 435 00:17:01.785 --> 00:17:02.825 oh, that'd be good to get. 436 00:17:02.825 --> 00:17:04.545 Like, I, I just get it. 437 00:17:04.835 --> 00:17:08.465 Right. We have, well there's Tim's wealth goal. . Yeah. 438 00:17:09.535 --> 00:17:10.945 What do you get? The guy that's got everything, 439 00:17:11.005 --> 00:17:14.025 he literally has a 3D printer, , which is one of the most 440 00:17:14.845 --> 00:17:17.455 like, outrageous, luxurious things you can have. 441 00:17:17.755 --> 00:17:19.735 And if you don't have what you want, 442 00:17:19.835 --> 00:17:21.775 you could just make it now. So 443 00:17:22.015 --> 00:17:23.055 I did print a part 444 00:17:23.055 --> 00:17:25.255 that broke on my tripod the other day. There 445 00:17:25.255 --> 00:17:26.255 You go. 446 00:17:26.255 --> 00:17:30.055 There. Did you print me my max for Stepin song? 447 00:17:30.795 --> 00:17:33.215 Little Maker's, no noise maker machine. 448 00:17:33.795 --> 00:17:35.005 Nothing. Just upset me. 449 00:17:35.105 --> 00:17:36.885 Do do, I'm gonna need you to look into that. What is it? 450 00:17:37.625 --> 00:17:40.295 Do, do, do, do, do, do. 451 00:17:42.525 --> 00:17:43.525 Yeah. That's it. 452 00:17:45.155 --> 00:17:47.695 Um, what about like on Christmas morning? 453 00:17:47.835 --> 00:17:49.805 Do you have like a certain, like when you were 454 00:17:49.805 --> 00:17:50.885 a kid, was it the same kind of, 455 00:17:51.065 --> 00:17:52.205 We would always do routine. 456 00:17:52.545 --> 00:17:55.445 One gift on Christmas Eve. Not Christmas Eve. 457 00:17:55.545 --> 00:17:56.845 Eve On Christmas Eve, 458 00:17:56.865 --> 00:17:58.605 That'd be 23rd, so that'd be silly. 459 00:17:59.145 --> 00:18:01.565 Uh, but no, just normal Christmas stuff. 460 00:18:01.565 --> 00:18:04.805 Larry getting drunk on screwdrivers as soon as he wakes up 461 00:18:04.865 --> 00:18:06.085 and screwdrivers. 462 00:18:06.305 --> 00:18:08.165 That's his Christmas drink. That's 463 00:18:08.165 --> 00:18:09.165 His Christmas drink. 464 00:18:09.165 --> 00:18:10.605 Yeah. That, that's an interesting question. 465 00:18:10.755 --> 00:18:13.045 What is a Christmas cocktail? Eggnog. 466 00:18:13.405 --> 00:18:14.405 I say cocktail 467 00:18:14.785 --> 00:18:15.785 Is the way I make it. . 468 00:18:19.235 --> 00:18:23.375 Okay. What is a Christmas? What is a, what is a Sessionable 469 00:18:24.195 --> 00:18:25.375 Hot Todd Christmas cocktail. 470 00:18:26.405 --> 00:18:30.445 Hot wine. Hot wine. Yeah. So everything's hot. 471 00:18:30.795 --> 00:18:33.845 I've, I've, I've seen like a, um, like a cinnamon. 472 00:18:34.605 --> 00:18:36.045 Cinnamon old fashion. Mm. 473 00:18:36.515 --> 00:18:37.845 Okay. Kind of. Now we're getting somewhere. 474 00:18:37.965 --> 00:18:40.405 Cinnamon Maple. Maple cinnamon, old fashion. Very 475 00:18:40.605 --> 00:18:41.605 Canadian of you. 476 00:18:41.605 --> 00:18:43.725 Yeah. Which I'm not against. Yeah. 477 00:18:43.785 --> 00:18:45.845 We just, we drink a lot of champagne, I think. 478 00:18:46.045 --> 00:18:47.845 I think that's kind of our Christmas drink. 479 00:18:48.265 --> 00:18:50.845 Oh, wealth goals. There you go. Yeah. 480 00:18:51.235 --> 00:18:53.125 Replace the water with Champs. 481 00:18:53.665 --> 00:18:57.405 He is just using his, his his bare iPhone as a coaster. 482 00:18:59.045 --> 00:19:01.165 taking Jesus, turning water into 483 00:19:01.195 --> 00:19:02.445 wine a little too literally. . 484 00:19:03.235 --> 00:19:05.205 Yeah. What about, what about you James? 485 00:19:05.265 --> 00:19:07.605 Any good traditions you're looking forward to? Well, 486 00:19:08.615 --> 00:19:11.265 Ours are like all the tra So my mom, you know, 487 00:19:11.455 --> 00:19:12.465 I've talked about this year before, 488 00:19:12.465 --> 00:19:14.185 like my mom is a Christmas nut. 489 00:19:14.215 --> 00:19:15.705 Like she loves Christmas. 490 00:19:16.045 --> 00:19:19.625 She is like the, the Clark Griswolds of Canada 491 00:19:19.925 --> 00:19:22.535 and just loves Christmas so much. 492 00:19:22.595 --> 00:19:24.415 And so, like growing up Christmas was the best. 493 00:19:24.415 --> 00:19:26.215 Like we had incredible Christmases. 494 00:19:26.715 --> 00:19:29.175 Mom always outdid herself and mom 495 00:19:29.175 --> 00:19:30.615 and dad always did a great job. 496 00:19:30.635 --> 00:19:31.775 But mom was the driving force. 497 00:19:32.435 --> 00:19:34.255 And so now, you know, we're all older 498 00:19:34.315 --> 00:19:36.815 and kind of like you said, it's not like none 499 00:19:36.815 --> 00:19:38.015 of us really ask for gifts anymore. 500 00:19:38.015 --> 00:19:41.495 Like, I'm the youngest in my family and I'm 39 now. 501 00:19:41.495 --> 00:19:42.895 You're welcome. Um, 502 00:19:43.675 --> 00:19:47.735 but we have, um, you know, we have, we have a niece now. 503 00:19:47.735 --> 00:19:49.255 Like I've, I've got a 5-year-old 504 00:19:49.385 --> 00:19:50.535 niece, my sister's daughter. 505 00:19:50.595 --> 00:19:52.175 And so it's, it's all now about her. 506 00:19:52.275 --> 00:19:55.755 And it's like seeing those traditions that we had as kids, 507 00:19:55.985 --> 00:19:59.035 like my mom and my sister have kind of kept out for Kaleigh 508 00:19:59.035 --> 00:20:01.235 and it's kind of fun watching it on this side now. 509 00:20:01.255 --> 00:20:02.915 So it's, our thing was always 510 00:20:03.665 --> 00:20:04.835 when you woke up in the morning, 511 00:20:05.565 --> 00:20:09.555 Santa had placed your stocking on your door of your bedroom. 512 00:20:10.175 --> 00:20:12.595 So that way if you woke up super early, you could go open 513 00:20:12.595 --> 00:20:15.075 that in your room and not like wake up mom and dad 514 00:20:15.075 --> 00:20:17.435 and at some obnoxious hour because you wanted to get going. 515 00:20:17.895 --> 00:20:21.275 So that was like a nice way to keep the kids occupied for, 516 00:20:21.335 --> 00:20:23.875 you know, at least till you could get to seven o'clock 517 00:20:23.935 --> 00:20:25.515 or like a reasonable time to wake up. 518 00:20:26.295 --> 00:20:29.635 Um, so like now we do that with Kalee and then we come down 519 00:20:29.655 --> 00:20:31.315 and it's breakfast and it's presents 520 00:20:31.335 --> 00:20:33.555 and it's champagne less for Kalee. 521 00:20:34.055 --> 00:20:36.515 Um, we give her ginger ale and a champagne flute. 522 00:20:36.515 --> 00:20:37.835 She doesn't know the difference. It's pretty funny. 523 00:20:38.835 --> 00:20:40.475 encouraging drinking at a young age, maybe. I don't know. 524 00:20:40.495 --> 00:20:41.635 I'm not sure if that's a bad thing, 525 00:20:42.175 --> 00:20:45.155 but, um, yeah, that's the fun thing for us now is getting 526 00:20:45.175 --> 00:20:47.605 to watch kinda the other side of it 527 00:20:47.625 --> 00:20:49.565 and, you know, um, 528 00:20:50.425 --> 00:20:52.685 we do the one present on Christmas Eve thing too, 529 00:20:52.745 --> 00:20:55.325 and Santa Claus comes by to visit sometimes. 530 00:20:56.065 --> 00:20:57.705 Oh, it's good. Good. 531 00:20:58.055 --> 00:20:59.585 Alex, what are your Christmas traditions? 532 00:21:00.015 --> 00:21:02.185 Well, James, I don't have any, um, 533 00:21:02.405 --> 00:21:05.545 You gonna start some now with Ben's first Christmas? 534 00:21:07.995 --> 00:21:09.385 Maybe, maybe not. 535 00:21:09.505 --> 00:21:10.985 I mean, he doesn't really, he doesn't 536 00:21:10.985 --> 00:21:12.105 really know the difference much. 537 00:21:12.105 --> 00:21:14.345 Like, he's like one of those people that doesn't know 538 00:21:14.345 --> 00:21:16.545 what day of the month Christmas Eve is. Um, 539 00:21:16.645 --> 00:21:18.865 He definitely does not know what Christmas Eve Eve is. 540 00:21:19.105 --> 00:21:21.205 I will say that ever since Kelly 541 00:21:21.225 --> 00:21:25.755 and I have lived together, um, I will, 542 00:21:26.475 --> 00:21:28.635 I refuse to do anything but a real tree. 543 00:21:29.735 --> 00:21:30.755 Um Oh, that's 544 00:21:30.755 --> 00:21:31.275 Okay. I 545 00:21:31.275 --> 00:21:32.275 Respect that. 546 00:21:32.275 --> 00:21:35.155 And that will be, that will be for as long as there's 547 00:21:36.495 --> 00:21:37.675 us in the house and 548 00:21:37.675 --> 00:21:40.115 especially when there's a kid in the house. Um, 549 00:21:40.605 --> 00:21:43.195 Until you establish that set kid is allergic 550 00:21:43.255 --> 00:21:45.635 to real pine trees and then you have to get a fake 551 00:21:45.635 --> 00:21:46.635 One. 552 00:21:46.635 --> 00:21:49.595 Yeah, we're gonna try and keep Ben out of the 2025 allergic 553 00:21:49.655 --> 00:21:53.245 to air thing if we can mm-hmm . 554 00:21:53.325 --> 00:21:55.405 But we'll see. Mm-hmm . It might, it might get us. 555 00:21:56.385 --> 00:21:59.165 Um, so that, I, I would say that's, that's it so far. 556 00:21:59.825 --> 00:22:03.225 Um, but I, yes. 557 00:22:03.795 --> 00:22:06.385 Where are you guys going to be on Christmas day? 558 00:22:07.225 --> 00:22:10.485 We will be in Markham James. We'll be in Markham just 559 00:22:10.485 --> 00:22:11.485 Previewing the track. 560 00:22:11.485 --> 00:22:12.485 Just so excited for the, 561 00:22:12.885 --> 00:22:13.885 Honestly. 562 00:22:13.885 --> 00:22:14.445 Yeah. Mindy just, just going out 563 00:22:14.445 --> 00:22:17.205 and walking it just all day. Um, so is it 564 00:22:17.205 --> 00:22:18.205 Just like a big PR stunt, 565 00:22:18.385 --> 00:22:20.725 Trying to get as much advantage as I can. 566 00:22:21.385 --> 00:22:23.525 You've got an indie card done up like a sleigh 567 00:22:23.525 --> 00:22:25.365 and you're gonna go around Mark and hand out presents. 568 00:22:25.515 --> 00:22:27.645 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually, um, 569 00:22:29.135 --> 00:22:30.875 we really shouldn't talk about it 570 00:22:30.875 --> 00:22:35.635 because might get in trouble, you know, extra testing. 571 00:22:40.025 --> 00:22:41.085 The old Christmas 572 00:22:41.115 --> 00:22:42.115 Test. 573 00:22:42.115 --> 00:22:43.005 Um, so since you 574 00:22:43.005 --> 00:22:44.325 and Kelly have been together, have you 575 00:22:44.325 --> 00:22:45.445 ever done Christmas in 576 00:22:45.535 --> 00:22:46.535 Indie? 577 00:22:46.535 --> 00:22:50.565 We have COVID. We did Christmas in Indie in 2020. Right. 578 00:22:50.785 --> 00:22:54.645 But much like you were saying, uh, Kelly's brother 579 00:22:55.105 --> 00:22:59.205 and sister between them have five kids under 580 00:23:00.945 --> 00:23:05.275 I think 10, nine, I don't know how old Harry is. 581 00:23:05.295 --> 00:23:07.595 11 whatever, young. Right. 582 00:23:08.175 --> 00:23:12.515 So it is, as much as it's chaos for most of the week, 583 00:23:13.075 --> 00:23:16.075 Christmas morning takes on a whole new sort of experience 584 00:23:16.075 --> 00:23:20.595 because you get to see five kids just thinking 585 00:23:20.665 --> 00:23:21.915 it's the best day ever. 586 00:23:22.215 --> 00:23:24.315 Um Yeah. Which is, which is pretty cool. 587 00:23:24.615 --> 00:23:28.345 And they, they kind of do it in the, you know, 588 00:23:28.345 --> 00:23:32.125 you go in order and you like kind of go around in a circle 589 00:23:32.465 --> 00:23:34.125 so everyone opens one present 590 00:23:34.185 --> 00:23:35.605 and moves on to the next kid or whatever. 591 00:23:36.305 --> 00:23:40.405 And Harry's old enough now where he like realizes that 592 00:23:41.095 --> 00:23:44.545 he wants to have kind of the most presence at the end. 593 00:23:44.985 --> 00:23:47.205 So he'll be like, oh, like you can go, 594 00:23:47.705 --> 00:23:51.405 or , he wants like to prolong the process Right. 595 00:23:51.585 --> 00:23:53.405 So that he can 596 00:23:54.235 --> 00:23:55.525 Open binge at that at the end. 597 00:23:55.855 --> 00:23:57.925 Binge at the end, but also like open gifts 598 00:23:57.925 --> 00:23:59.725 for the longest amount of time as possible. 599 00:23:59.725 --> 00:24:02.605 Right. Um, 'cause it's so much fun, so clever. 600 00:24:02.665 --> 00:24:03.845 That's, that's pretty funny. 601 00:24:04.105 --> 00:24:09.005 Um, and yeah, it's, um, listen, it's just nice to 602 00:24:09.515 --> 00:24:13.165 have an excuse to get up there and visit extended family 603 00:24:13.305 --> 00:24:16.755 and especially with Ben to show, 604 00:24:18.495 --> 00:24:20.635 um, give everyone a chance to hang out with him and, 605 00:24:20.815 --> 00:24:23.075 and see how much he's grown since they saw him in May. 606 00:24:26.775 --> 00:24:30.735 Is there, is there anyone that hasn't met Ben yet 607 00:24:30.735 --> 00:24:32.375 that's gonna be meeting Ben at Christmas? 608 00:24:32.875 --> 00:24:36.415 Is there anyone that hasn't met Ben yet that is going 609 00:24:36.435 --> 00:24:38.015 to be No, everyone's met 610 00:24:38.015 --> 00:24:39.015 Him. 611 00:24:39.015 --> 00:24:39.895 Like he's met all his cousins and he is met. Mm-hmm . 612 00:24:39.975 --> 00:24:42.135 You know, he's met everybody. Oh, that's good. 613 00:24:42.135 --> 00:24:44.255 He has at least it's, yeah. Tremendous. He hasn't met 614 00:24:44.435 --> 00:24:45.615 Met Santa yet. Obviously 615 00:24:45.615 --> 00:24:46.615 Santa hasn't met Santa yet. 616 00:24:46.635 --> 00:24:48.975 Are you gonna do like the go to the mall and get a picture? 617 00:24:49.375 --> 00:24:51.175 Absolutely not. Dude. it does 618 00:24:51.175 --> 00:24:52.295 not seem like a you thing. 619 00:24:52.655 --> 00:24:55.535 I love the mall. Santa. I love a good mall. Santa Did 620 00:24:55.535 --> 00:24:56.855 You mall Santa as a kid, Tim? 621 00:24:57.215 --> 00:24:58.735 I didn't, but I made sure Hazel did. 622 00:24:59.035 --> 00:25:01.535 But like Hazel ever A sold live by the Grove, 623 00:25:01.715 --> 00:25:03.295 so we would just go to The Grove and do it. 624 00:25:03.295 --> 00:25:04.695 Oh true. Pretty good. Mall Santa. 625 00:25:05.135 --> 00:25:06.135 I was gonna say That's 626 00:25:06.135 --> 00:25:06.775 Pretty good. 627 00:25:06.775 --> 00:25:07.935 Mall Santa. I imagine that one's pretty pretty Bu 628 00:25:08.495 --> 00:25:09.855 Pizzas a Markville mall. 629 00:25:09.955 --> 00:25:11.095 Mm-hmm. Which is I think 630 00:25:11.095 --> 00:25:13.335 where I saw my Santa most of the time growing up. 631 00:25:13.615 --> 00:25:16.215 I am excited. I I did as a Christmas gift, 632 00:25:16.455 --> 00:25:19.495 I signed Hazel up for Space Camp, so, oh, 633 00:25:20.275 --> 00:25:21.495 that's, looking forward to that. 634 00:25:21.975 --> 00:25:23.375 Speaking my language. 635 00:25:23.515 --> 00:25:25.495 Is she going to the Cape or is she going to Birmingham? 636 00:25:25.945 --> 00:25:27.615 Birmingham. Oh, 637 00:25:28.255 --> 00:25:29.365 Incredible facility. 638 00:25:29.365 --> 00:25:30.885 But I was talking over with her mom and, 639 00:25:30.885 --> 00:25:32.325 and her mom's like, you know, I just dunno if 640 00:25:32.325 --> 00:25:33.525 she's ready for sleepaway camp yet. 641 00:25:33.605 --> 00:25:35.165 I was like, I I think she'll be fine. 642 00:25:35.385 --> 00:25:38.485 But as a compromise, um, I'm also going to Space Camp. 643 00:25:38.905 --> 00:25:40.885 Is that like are you, Are you right now we're 644 00:25:40.885 --> 00:25:41.925 doing the family one now. 645 00:25:41.945 --> 00:25:44.445 Now we're, Hazel and I are gonna go do family 646 00:25:44.495 --> 00:25:45.605 space camp this summer. 647 00:25:46.185 --> 00:25:49.245 It is so offensive that you didn't ask me to join. 648 00:25:50.205 --> 00:25:52.285 I mean, you wanna come? It's 649 00:25:52.285 --> 00:25:53.285 A family thing. 650 00:25:53.425 --> 00:25:56.895 All right. We could just be a, you know. Yeah. Like a couple 651 00:25:56.925 --> 00:25:57.925 Your Uncle Cupcake. 652 00:25:58.005 --> 00:25:59.415 Yeah. Let, I mean, let's do it. Let James can 653 00:25:59.515 --> 00:26:01.935 You and I have been to Space Camp together already. 654 00:26:02.585 --> 00:26:04.135 James went to Space Camp as a kid. 655 00:26:04.375 --> 00:26:06.055 I went to Space camp and Space Academy 656 00:26:06.235 --> 00:26:07.495 and then Yes, that's true, Alex. 657 00:26:07.555 --> 00:26:08.935 We have been. We have been. 658 00:26:09.595 --> 00:26:12.215 And it was pretty neat. Yeah, it's called Space. 659 00:26:12.355 --> 00:26:13.895 Sounds awesome. I'm excited. Pretty neat. 660 00:26:13.915 --> 00:26:15.055 It was. He was fine. 661 00:26:15.125 --> 00:26:19.135 Like So. Mm-hmm . Now. 662 00:26:19.195 --> 00:26:21.775 Tim now what do you think New Year's E Eve is called 663 00:26:21.775 --> 00:26:23.015 or Christmas Eve called? 664 00:26:23.035 --> 00:26:24.215 I'm still, I'm still sticking with that. 665 00:26:24.675 --> 00:26:26.215 He said Space Camp was fine. 666 00:26:27.015 --> 00:26:28.735 I know he's wrong about most 667 00:26:28.735 --> 00:26:29.895 things, but he is right on this. 668 00:26:30.595 --> 00:26:33.255 So like, you guys get to go, you spend the week. 669 00:26:33.435 --> 00:26:35.895 You do like what, like missions together and stuff? 670 00:26:35.935 --> 00:26:37.175 I think so, yeah. Oh dude, I never got, 671 00:26:37.255 --> 00:26:38.375 I didn't get to go so 672 00:26:38.375 --> 00:26:39.375 Good. 673 00:26:39.375 --> 00:26:40.375 So good. Just seeing 674 00:26:40.375 --> 00:26:42.135 More objections of projections. 675 00:26:42.245 --> 00:26:45.005 Guys, all you're doing is space camp. Why? 676 00:26:45.025 --> 00:26:48.325 Why doesn't Tim take us to a camp? He doesn't even take us 677 00:26:48.385 --> 00:26:49.645 Escape. I just offered escape rooms. 678 00:26:50.325 --> 00:26:53.095 He doesn't take us. Yeah. Yeah. 679 00:26:53.095 --> 00:26:55.055 Wait, we've gone to escape rooms recently. 680 00:26:55.165 --> 00:26:58.455 Alex I, in the last few months, I think I, 681 00:26:58.675 --> 00:27:01.135 are there any left in Indianapolis that we have not done? 682 00:27:01.725 --> 00:27:03.895 Well here's the thing, Tim, we will think there isn't 683 00:27:03.895 --> 00:27:05.775 and then we'll go and then we'll get in it 684 00:27:05.775 --> 00:27:08.735 and be like, ah, ah, yeah, we've this lady . 685 00:27:09.335 --> 00:27:11.775 Yeah, I mean, I get to Indie tomorrow. 686 00:27:12.105 --> 00:27:13.815 Let's, let's do an escape room Sunday. 687 00:27:14.255 --> 00:27:18.485 I don't leave till Tuesday. So you off. Perfect. All right. 688 00:27:19.145 --> 00:27:20.615 James. Gone. 689 00:27:20.975 --> 00:27:22.655 I mean for this I might, for this I might, 690 00:27:22.655 --> 00:27:24.895 well I know there's a couple family gatherings I'm gonna 691 00:27:24.895 --> 00:27:25.935 have to cancel or postpone, 692 00:27:25.955 --> 00:27:27.015 but this seems worth it, 693 00:27:27.015 --> 00:27:28.095 so I'm gonna, I'm gonna think about 694 00:27:28.095 --> 00:27:29.335 it. I'm gonna seriously think about it. 695 00:27:29.595 --> 00:27:31.135 Um, yeah, family's temporary. 696 00:27:31.525 --> 00:27:32.655 This podcast is forever 697 00:27:33.115 --> 00:27:34.615 or it just feels like it's taking forever. 698 00:27:34.875 --> 00:27:36.295 God, I hope not. I 699 00:27:36.295 --> 00:27:37.855 Love you guys, but I really 700 00:27:37.855 --> 00:27:38.855 Hope that's not the case. 701 00:27:39.355 --> 00:27:41.575 Um, okay. Alright. So here's an interesting, 702 00:27:42.335 --> 00:27:43.595 here's an interesting question. 703 00:27:44.525 --> 00:27:49.005 I doubt it. open, open hostility. 704 00:27:49.545 --> 00:27:54.165 You have your, um, your really stupid wealth goal. 705 00:27:55.195 --> 00:27:58.405 What is, what is the goal that we have for this podcast 706 00:27:58.745 --> 00:28:00.925 for We'll be like, all right, we can shut it down. 707 00:28:01.475 --> 00:28:03.205 I've got, I've got it. I've got it. Okay. 708 00:28:03.205 --> 00:28:04.885 I've actually, I've got it as of today. 709 00:28:06.085 --> 00:28:10.125 'cause of today, Uhhuh, I learned that podcasts 710 00:28:10.785 --> 00:28:14.185 are now a category 711 00:28:15.295 --> 00:28:16.315 in the Golden Globes. 712 00:28:16.545 --> 00:28:19.395 Okay. So when we win a Golden Globe, we can shut it down. 713 00:28:19.415 --> 00:28:21.515 You know what, let's just get a nomination winning. 714 00:28:21.665 --> 00:28:23.315 It's a political thing, you know? Sure. 715 00:28:23.315 --> 00:28:25.155 Like we don't, we're not in the campaigning game. We 716 00:28:25.155 --> 00:28:26.155 Don't get Yeah. 717 00:28:26.155 --> 00:28:28.395 I'm not here to lose. I'm not here to lose. Okay. Look, 718 00:28:28.765 --> 00:28:30.475 We'll earn the nomination, Tim. 719 00:28:30.535 --> 00:28:32.355 You can go do all the campaigning to get us to win, 720 00:28:32.655 --> 00:28:35.595 but I think as soon as we get a Golden Globe nom 721 00:28:35.975 --> 00:28:36.995 we can hang up our hat. 722 00:28:37.385 --> 00:28:39.435 Turn off the mics. Would everyone would 723 00:28:39.435 --> 00:28:40.435 Fucked to you. 724 00:28:40.435 --> 00:28:44.365 What would be funny is we would be the only 725 00:28:45.495 --> 00:28:46.945 nominee for a Golden Globe. 726 00:28:47.015 --> 00:28:50.705 Like of any category in history that didn't make money doing 727 00:28:50.705 --> 00:28:54.225 what they were doing to get to that point. I'm pretty, 728 00:28:54.435 --> 00:28:56.545 There are some, there are some like directors 729 00:28:56.545 --> 00:28:59.665 of like indie films that made nothing on a really big movie. 730 00:28:59.865 --> 00:29:01.625 Whenever they have the Oscar category 731 00:29:01.765 --> 00:29:04.665 for like best short form documentary. 732 00:29:04.965 --> 00:29:07.665 I'm like that trophy's going to an apartment. . 733 00:29:09.355 --> 00:29:11.045 Fair, fair, fair, fair. 734 00:29:12.355 --> 00:29:14.045 Well I think we have a long way to go. 735 00:29:14.045 --> 00:29:15.845 There's that Howard Stern guy seems 736 00:29:15.845 --> 00:29:17.045 pretty good at podcasting. 737 00:29:17.515 --> 00:29:19.245 Yeah. And there's like smart Lists 738 00:29:19.545 --> 00:29:23.325 And There's Alex, Joey Ro our first guest. 739 00:29:23.585 --> 00:29:24.605 No, not Joey Mon. Sorry. 740 00:29:24.705 --> 00:29:28.365 Um, who was I thinking Can't John Green right now? No. 741 00:29:28.585 --> 00:29:29.645 Uh, pat McAfee. 742 00:29:30.575 --> 00:29:32.755 Oh. I don't think his counts as a podcast anymore. 743 00:29:32.865 --> 00:29:33.875 He's just a full on TV 744 00:29:33.975 --> 00:29:34.975 Show's. 745 00:29:34.975 --> 00:29:36.515 A talk show. Yeah. But yeah, he was our first guest. 746 00:29:36.815 --> 00:29:38.435 That's crazy that he was our first guest. 747 00:29:38.745 --> 00:29:40.595 Only went downhill from there 748 00:29:41.045 --> 00:29:42.045 Quickly. 749 00:29:42.045 --> 00:29:42.645 Yeah. I wonder if you would come back on . 750 00:29:42.965 --> 00:29:44.845 I wonder if we could do like a full circle moment 751 00:29:44.845 --> 00:29:46.405 and be like, Hey Pat, what episode are we on? 752 00:29:46.555 --> 00:29:47.965 453. 753 00:29:49.305 --> 00:29:52.125 Missed a mile. Yeah. Mile milestone. 500 episode. 754 00:29:52.125 --> 00:29:53.325 Five hundred's. Gotta be Pat 755 00:29:53.445 --> 00:29:54.445 Mack. 756 00:29:54.445 --> 00:29:55.445 Let's, let's do it. That'll probably be around May. 757 00:29:55.495 --> 00:29:56.925 Let's do it. Well, 758 00:29:56.925 --> 00:30:00.045 it'll be 47 weeks from now, so No, it won't. 759 00:30:00.155 --> 00:30:01.765 Well we do two episode, wait up two a week. 760 00:30:02.305 --> 00:30:03.645 Oh, well not really 761 00:30:03.645 --> 00:30:04.645 lately. . 762 00:30:06.185 --> 00:30:07.645 So be like almost half that, 763 00:30:07.645 --> 00:30:09.645 which is like basically the Yeah, 764 00:30:09.645 --> 00:30:11.725 It's probably around May . It's probably around May. 765 00:30:11.725 --> 00:30:13.365 Um, yeah. All right. We'll try and make, we'll try 766 00:30:13.365 --> 00:30:14.485 and make that happen 'cause that's what the people want. 767 00:30:14.665 --> 00:30:16.445 People wanna hear from Pat. I wanna hear from 768 00:30:16.465 --> 00:30:17.885 Pat you what Pat's up to. 769 00:30:18.425 --> 00:30:20.165 Um, that's kind of Low key my hero. 770 00:30:21.045 --> 00:30:25.125 Hmm. So, uh, James, you and I talked Doug Bulls last week. 771 00:30:25.225 --> 00:30:27.845 Do you have any, uh, any thoughts 772 00:30:27.855 --> 00:30:30.285 after that conversation on the new officiating setup? 773 00:30:30.785 --> 00:30:33.605 Not thoughts so much as just like I said, not thoughts 774 00:30:33.605 --> 00:30:36.965 as just, I really am curious to see who start, 775 00:30:36.965 --> 00:30:38.165 like they gotta start hiring, right? 776 00:30:38.165 --> 00:30:40.365 Mm-hmm . Like the hiring has to start immediately. 777 00:30:41.105 --> 00:30:43.085 And you know, Doug alluded to the fact that 778 00:30:43.635 --> 00:30:45.845 something should be coming shortly here. 779 00:30:45.845 --> 00:30:48.405 You gotta get the managing director hired first 780 00:30:48.425 --> 00:30:50.125 and then let them go, start filling the roles. 781 00:30:50.585 --> 00:30:53.885 Um, Alex, I don't know if you've heard any rumors 782 00:30:54.395 --> 00:30:56.685 from being inside the world. 783 00:30:56.805 --> 00:30:58.325 I dunno if there's any of those rumors you're allowed 784 00:30:58.325 --> 00:31:00.685 to share about who's being considered 785 00:31:00.685 --> 00:31:02.085 for the managing director 786 00:31:02.435 --> 00:31:03.435 Role. 787 00:31:03.435 --> 00:31:07.295 I have, um, I definitely can't share, 788 00:31:07.955 --> 00:31:12.085 but I can say that two of them were X racing drivers. 789 00:31:12.875 --> 00:31:16.215 Okay. Like Indy car drivers. Mm-hmm . 790 00:31:16.875 --> 00:31:18.135 Do they know that I'm available? 791 00:31:18.625 --> 00:31:19.775 Sorry, your tone made. 792 00:31:19.775 --> 00:31:21.455 It made me think you, like there was another 793 00:31:22.215 --> 00:31:23.255 sentence coming outta that that you 794 00:31:23.255 --> 00:31:24.255 Weren't doing. 795 00:31:24.255 --> 00:31:25.075 Oh, the, 796 00:31:25.075 --> 00:31:28.715 and the other one was a person that was, um, 797 00:31:28.985 --> 00:31:33.235 very influential on the American side for the FIA. 798 00:31:33.495 --> 00:31:35.075 Got it. And that's all. Okay. 799 00:31:35.075 --> 00:31:36.115 That I, that's all the know 800 00:31:36.115 --> 00:31:37.715 that is details I'm gonna give. Yeah. 801 00:31:38.215 --> 00:31:42.235 Uh, fair. Are you, are you, uh, is there one of the, 802 00:31:42.335 --> 00:31:44.875 the ones that you've heard that you would prefer? 803 00:31:45.415 --> 00:31:49.675 No, I don't care. Um, I will say that of all the names 804 00:31:49.675 --> 00:31:53.035 that I have heard, whether I know them personally 805 00:31:53.215 --> 00:31:55.865 or not, we're all pretty good. 806 00:31:56.285 --> 00:31:57.745 So yeah, I think that's good. 807 00:31:58.005 --> 00:32:02.585 No matter who they end up choosing slash who ends up 808 00:32:03.285 --> 00:32:06.495 getting the job, um, is going to be a person 809 00:32:06.495 --> 00:32:07.655 that is more than qualified 810 00:32:07.795 --> 00:32:10.535 and super passionate about the position, 811 00:32:10.665 --> 00:32:12.495 which is really all that you can ask for. 812 00:32:13.235 --> 00:32:14.805 It's all, it's all that matters. Yeah. 813 00:32:15.145 --> 00:32:17.165 The, the question that we asked Doug, 814 00:32:17.685 --> 00:32:22.545 'cause I know you didn't listen, was, um, should, 815 00:32:22.565 --> 00:32:24.305 so the managing director, you know, is in charge 816 00:32:24.305 --> 00:32:26.625 of making all these, these hires now, right? 817 00:32:26.725 --> 00:32:28.225 So for race director, 818 00:32:28.225 --> 00:32:29.945 tech director stewards, all that stuff. 819 00:32:30.725 --> 00:32:34.785 The question was, are we anticipating like a 820 00:32:34.875 --> 00:32:36.345 surprising amount of change? 821 00:32:36.885 --> 00:32:39.405 Or is it, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 822 00:32:39.405 --> 00:32:40.405 Things are running pretty well. 823 00:32:40.405 --> 00:32:41.525 We just have a different structure, 824 00:32:41.665 --> 00:32:44.645 but we're kind of expecting a lot of the same, you know, 825 00:32:44.645 --> 00:32:47.645 characters in the same roles moving forward. 826 00:32:48.265 --> 00:32:51.725 He kind of, he, he sidestepped a little bit as you would in 827 00:32:51.725 --> 00:32:53.165 that position and to that question, 828 00:32:53.225 --> 00:32:56.565 but kind of said that he expected it to have a similar kind 829 00:32:56.565 --> 00:32:58.325 of vibe just given the fact 830 00:32:58.325 --> 00:32:59.525 that it doesn't seem like there's any 831 00:32:59.525 --> 00:33:00.685 major issues to address. 832 00:33:01.305 --> 00:33:02.685 Is that kinda what you've heard? Like, 833 00:33:02.685 --> 00:33:03.965 um, everyone wants to know. 834 00:33:04.235 --> 00:33:06.485 Yeah. Is Rocket gonna be back in charge of tech? 835 00:33:06.705 --> 00:33:08.445 Is Kyle still gonna be the race director? 836 00:33:08.585 --> 00:33:10.325 Are Max Inari still gonna be the stewards? 837 00:33:10.325 --> 00:33:12.205 Like is it gonna still be a two steward system? 838 00:33:12.595 --> 00:33:14.385 Like these are the, 839 00:33:14.385 --> 00:33:16.985 these are the top line questions, right? It's, 840 00:33:16.985 --> 00:33:19.545 It's, it's, it's interesting 841 00:33:19.545 --> 00:33:21.665 because it's like, do we agree 842 00:33:22.295 --> 00:33:24.825 that there isn't problems? 843 00:33:25.525 --> 00:33:27.105 I'm just reiterating what was said. 844 00:33:27.445 --> 00:33:29.505 No, I know. So mm-hmm . 845 00:33:29.825 --> 00:33:33.065 I, I think that my, what I have heard 846 00:33:33.685 --> 00:33:37.385 has been nothing official in terms of the direction 847 00:33:37.385 --> 00:33:41.015 that they're going, but certainly there are hopes of 848 00:33:41.015 --> 00:33:44.385 what the direction brings and comes from. All the 849 00:33:44.385 --> 00:33:45.385 Hope's gotta be right? 850 00:33:45.415 --> 00:33:49.385 That whoever the MDO is spends a good amount 851 00:33:49.385 --> 00:33:51.025 of time canvassing the group. 852 00:33:52.165 --> 00:33:54.625 Not that you have to like just take what the drivers say, 853 00:33:54.705 --> 00:33:56.705 what the team owners say or whatever, and make that happen. 854 00:33:56.965 --> 00:33:58.625 But like, to get a good sense of 855 00:33:58.625 --> 00:33:59.745 where everybody stands on 856 00:33:59.745 --> 00:34:01.545 everything, I think that's important. 857 00:34:02.535 --> 00:34:06.565 Um, and honestly, like, not selfishly, 858 00:34:06.565 --> 00:34:08.285 but as someone that's heard these conversations, 859 00:34:08.285 --> 00:34:09.885 like you've gotta talk to Fox as well. 860 00:34:09.995 --> 00:34:11.805 Like you, you need to talk to all the stakeholders. 861 00:34:11.865 --> 00:34:15.805 So it's the series, the teams, the drivers, the partners, 862 00:34:16.305 --> 00:34:19.245 the TV provider, the, the, you know, 863 00:34:19.245 --> 00:34:20.485 series sponsors, whatever. 864 00:34:20.985 --> 00:34:24.245 You kinda have to know what everybody's looking for out 865 00:34:24.245 --> 00:34:25.565 of this whole thing 866 00:34:26.265 --> 00:34:29.565 and make the best, you know, educated decisions from that. 867 00:34:30.225 --> 00:34:31.525 So yeah, it'll be interesting man. 868 00:34:31.715 --> 00:34:34.405 It's, um, I imagine it's like a weird time. 869 00:34:34.425 --> 00:34:35.805 Unless they know something we don't, 870 00:34:35.805 --> 00:34:37.325 it's gotta be a weird time for a lot of people. 871 00:34:37.325 --> 00:34:39.715 That organization that are just kind 872 00:34:39.715 --> 00:34:42.395 of waiting now if you're on the, the tech side 873 00:34:42.575 --> 00:34:46.315 or the, you know, whatever side falls under the jurisdiction 874 00:34:46.315 --> 00:34:47.315 of this new role. 875 00:34:47.425 --> 00:34:48.795 Welcome to Motorsports, dude. 876 00:34:49.565 --> 00:34:53.855 Yeah, man, it's, uh, contract years are a effer, 877 00:34:54.505 --> 00:34:55.645 but uh, he sure is. 878 00:34:56.245 --> 00:34:57.965 Everyone has to deal with it. What else? 879 00:34:57.965 --> 00:34:59.965 Did you just talk to Doug about any other things 880 00:34:59.985 --> 00:35:01.525 or was it just officiating stuff? 881 00:35:02.185 --> 00:35:04.285 We talked about the track repave in two. 882 00:35:04.805 --> 00:35:06.685 Anything about like the future of IndyCar 883 00:35:07.105 --> 00:35:10.765 or was he, he wearing his IMS hat for most of it? 884 00:35:10.875 --> 00:35:13.325 Well, no, we were, we were IMS hat 885 00:35:13.345 --> 00:35:15.445 for the first 10 minutes talking about the 886 00:35:15.445 --> 00:35:16.525 track repaid mm-hmm . 887 00:35:16.805 --> 00:35:18.485 'cause you know, he had all those videos up 888 00:35:18.575 --> 00:35:19.885 about that, which is kind of cool. 889 00:35:20.345 --> 00:35:23.005 And then the next 20 were just about the, the governance 890 00:35:23.005 --> 00:35:25.245 and understanding okay, what this new system is, 891 00:35:25.265 --> 00:35:27.125 how it's gonna work, who does what 892 00:35:27.305 --> 00:35:28.445 and everything like that. So, 893 00:35:28.585 --> 00:35:30.685 So no, no manufacturers were announced. 894 00:35:30.985 --> 00:35:33.205 No manufacturers were announced. Okay. 895 00:35:33.205 --> 00:35:37.325 Um, he did release, release the 2027 schedule, which was 896 00:35:37.325 --> 00:35:38.205 Cool. A what? 897 00:35:38.485 --> 00:35:39.605 A 2027 schedule 898 00:35:39.985 --> 00:35:42.925 and start times so you can book all your travel for 27. 899 00:35:43.685 --> 00:35:44.805 I love how, I love how, 900 00:35:45.545 --> 00:35:47.405 how powerful this podcast is, by the way. 901 00:35:47.405 --> 00:35:49.925 Incredible. Like, I guess I just need to bitch more. 902 00:35:50.305 --> 00:35:52.405 You just need, well you don't need to bitch. 903 00:35:52.425 --> 00:35:55.005 You can just ask Yeah. Nicely for things or 904 00:35:55.125 --> 00:35:56.645 Bitch Or either way. 905 00:35:56.795 --> 00:35:58.565 Yeah, either way. Yeah. Yeah. 906 00:35:58.565 --> 00:36:00.605 We got a, we got a few people that, uh, that, 907 00:36:00.675 --> 00:36:04.045 that tweeted back response to that episode 908 00:36:04.075 --> 00:36:06.085 that you complained about not knowing the start times 909 00:36:06.105 --> 00:36:07.725 and immediately after the episode 910 00:36:07.725 --> 00:36:09.085 dropped the start times for release. 911 00:36:09.275 --> 00:36:10.565 Have you booked your flights, Alex? 912 00:36:10.835 --> 00:36:12.805 Some of them. Um, should we talk about, 913 00:36:13.295 --> 00:36:14.485 we've got a few minutes left. 914 00:36:14.485 --> 00:36:16.885 Should we talk about quickly some of the start times? 915 00:36:18.025 --> 00:36:21.805 Um, I, I had mentioned 916 00:36:22.475 --> 00:36:25.485 post Phoenix Tire test that Phoenix was going 917 00:36:25.485 --> 00:36:27.205 to be a midday race on Saturday. 918 00:36:27.435 --> 00:36:30.765 That was confirmed. Um, disappointing. 919 00:36:30.945 --> 00:36:35.855 But also you gotta realize that we are in a lot 920 00:36:35.855 --> 00:36:38.095 of ways the support event for Cup there. 921 00:36:38.395 --> 00:36:40.295 So not entirely a surprise. 922 00:36:40.675 --> 00:36:44.055 Um, hopefully what we get out of 923 00:36:44.055 --> 00:36:48.175 that is a new audience for the people that go to the race 924 00:36:48.875 --> 00:36:52.135 and we're able to put on a sick show for them 925 00:36:52.235 --> 00:36:54.415 and they're like, man, indie cars are pretty cool 926 00:36:54.435 --> 00:36:57.815 and a lot faster than cup cars. Um, 927 00:36:58.075 --> 00:37:00.575 So, so hold on just on that, just 928 00:37:00.575 --> 00:37:01.575 so everybody understands. 929 00:37:01.765 --> 00:37:04.855 What about a noon start local, which is 3:00 PM Eastern, 930 00:37:04.855 --> 00:37:08.575 which is not a bad window on a, on a day to, to have a race, 931 00:37:08.955 --> 00:37:11.895 but why is that suboptimal? 932 00:37:12.485 --> 00:37:14.775 Well, I just think we all, I mean we're all very aware 933 00:37:14.775 --> 00:37:16.335 of short ovals and, 934 00:37:16.435 --> 00:37:19.735 and the, the sensitivities that they have in terms 935 00:37:19.735 --> 00:37:21.375 of the race ability, um, 936 00:37:21.875 --> 00:37:25.935 and night races 100% 937 00:37:25.935 --> 00:37:28.135 of the time are better than day races. 938 00:37:28.555 --> 00:37:31.695 Um, so that's why I would say the rest kind 939 00:37:31.695 --> 00:37:33.455 of made sense except for Arlington. 940 00:37:33.675 --> 00:37:37.415 Uh, I was a little disappointed to see Arlington be a 941 00:37:37.795 --> 00:37:41.375 before noon green flag for the very reasons 942 00:37:41.565 --> 00:37:44.855 that there was, I don't know if excuse is the right word, 943 00:37:45.075 --> 00:37:49.175 but reasons why it was suggested that people didn't show up 944 00:37:49.175 --> 00:37:52.895 to TMS to Texas Motor Speedway, um, for Indy Cars was 945 00:37:53.475 --> 00:37:56.535 the race when it became no longer was a night race. 946 00:37:56.795 --> 00:37:58.455 It was kind of a midday race on Sunday. 947 00:37:59.385 --> 00:38:03.765 And a lot of people couldn't get from church in time 948 00:38:04.655 --> 00:38:07.435 out of service and have their brunch or lunch 949 00:38:07.455 --> 00:38:08.875 or whatever with their family and friends 950 00:38:09.495 --> 00:38:12.515 and then get out to a racetrack by noon or one o'clock 951 00:38:12.535 --> 00:38:15.125 or whatever to watch a sporting event. 952 00:38:15.955 --> 00:38:17.295 And here we are again. 953 00:38:17.515 --> 00:38:19.615 So I don't know if there's any merit to 954 00:38:19.725 --> 00:38:23.135 that being the reason why we struggled 955 00:38:23.135 --> 00:38:24.895 to fill Grand Sands of Texas. 956 00:38:25.235 --> 00:38:28.705 I'm sure that like everything, it's partially true. 957 00:38:29.515 --> 00:38:32.655 Um, but I would say that that's a pretty decent concern 958 00:38:32.655 --> 00:38:36.205 of mine is an 11:00 AM green flag in a very 959 00:38:37.345 --> 00:38:39.915 traditional part of the world 960 00:38:39.925 --> 00:38:42.475 where church on Sunday mornings is incredibly important. 961 00:38:42.985 --> 00:38:44.595 Fair. Fair. 962 00:38:45.255 --> 00:38:46.795 Um, I know one of the other issues 963 00:38:46.815 --> 00:38:48.515 of like the midday races was that it's just 964 00:38:49.115 --> 00:38:50.985 hotter than hotter than heck. 965 00:38:51.635 --> 00:38:52.745 Texas is the middle of the day, 966 00:38:52.745 --> 00:38:53.905 but that's when we were racing in June. 967 00:38:53.935 --> 00:38:56.825 This is mid March, so hopefully temperature wise 968 00:38:57.095 --> 00:38:58.145 that won't be a concern. 969 00:38:58.365 --> 00:39:01.385 So fingers crossed, man, there's uh, there's a lot of hope, 970 00:39:02.335 --> 00:39:04.935 a lot of, uh, a lot of, excuse me, 971 00:39:04.935 --> 00:39:06.055 anticipation about that one. 972 00:39:06.675 --> 00:39:08.055 And hopefully it goes off smoothly. 973 00:39:08.515 --> 00:39:12.055 We do have a night race prime time at, uh, gateway again, 974 00:39:12.065 --> 00:39:13.175 which is awesome. 975 00:39:13.995 --> 00:39:17.615 And then the, the time for Nashville is still TBA 976 00:39:17.645 --> 00:39:19.495 because I think they're still working out 977 00:39:19.495 --> 00:39:21.015 some World Cup stuff. 978 00:39:21.295 --> 00:39:22.535 'cause that's obviously the, the lead in 979 00:39:22.535 --> 00:39:23.575 which is gonna be pretty cool. 980 00:39:24.085 --> 00:39:28.135 Sure is. And then I will just add one 981 00:39:28.245 --> 00:39:29.455 more comment. 982 00:39:30.045 --> 00:39:34.175 Pray for Rain on Indy 500 Race Day 983 00:39:34.565 --> 00:39:37.135 because late races 984 00:39:37.965 --> 00:39:40.065 pretty good for a tee. 985 00:39:40.655 --> 00:39:42.385 Good. So, so 986 00:39:42.385 --> 00:39:45.305 We want rain to stop at like two, 987 00:39:46.125 --> 00:39:47.225 Two hours to dry the track. 988 00:39:47.725 --> 00:39:52.135 Or pm Green flag. Oh, buddy. Pretty good for a treat. 989 00:39:52.915 --> 00:39:56.285 Oh, let's hope, hope and prayer. Mm-hmm . 990 00:39:56.465 --> 00:39:58.485 For some just the right amount of rain. Yes. 991 00:39:58.505 --> 00:40:00.595 At just the right time. It happened 992 00:40:00.595 --> 00:40:01.995 once it could happen again. 993 00:40:02.865 --> 00:40:07.705 Uh, well guys, that's the show. Um, we're gonna sign off. 994 00:40:08.015 --> 00:40:09.705 Wishing you all a very merry Christmas. 995 00:40:11.195 --> 00:40:14.895 And we'd be remiss without mentioning, uh, 996 00:40:15.715 --> 00:40:19.575 the tragic passing of the Biffle family and, 997 00:40:19.875 --> 00:40:22.455 and the friends of them that were on that aircraft. 998 00:40:24.445 --> 00:40:25.965 Unbelievable unspeakable tragedy. 999 00:40:26.425 --> 00:40:28.605 Um, at any time of year, it's 1000 00:40:28.605 --> 00:40:30.845 for some reason feels like it hits harder now, 1001 00:40:31.145 --> 00:40:34.365 but, uh, all your loved ones, man, that's, uh, 1002 00:40:34.465 --> 00:40:36.165 that's the best piece of advice I think 1003 00:40:36.305 --> 00:40:37.565 anyone can give at this point. 1004 00:40:37.825 --> 00:40:41.455 And, uh, certainly setting them all the love that, 1005 00:40:41.475 --> 00:40:42.495 uh, that we've got here. 1006 00:40:43.935 --> 00:40:47.335 I agree. It's, uh, it hits extra close 1007 00:40:47.335 --> 00:40:51.055 to home when you realize kids are involved 1008 00:40:51.195 --> 00:40:53.455 and it's, um, it's just a lot. 1009 00:40:53.455 --> 00:40:55.655 And also just to, there's a lot 1010 00:40:55.655 --> 00:40:58.535 of people obviously giving a lot of attention to the four 1011 00:40:59.365 --> 00:41:01.215 Biffles that were on the plane, 1012 00:41:01.275 --> 00:41:03.855 but there was also two pilots, um, as well. 1013 00:41:03.955 --> 00:41:05.815 So did everything they could to try 1014 00:41:05.815 --> 00:41:07.135 and get that thing back on the ground. 1015 00:41:07.275 --> 00:41:10.505 And we don't know why there was an issue, 1016 00:41:10.525 --> 00:41:14.265 but clearly something went pretty catastrophically wrong 1017 00:41:14.285 --> 00:41:16.545 as soon as they took off and they fought 1018 00:41:16.715 --> 00:41:18.065 until the very end and they were close. 1019 00:41:18.335 --> 00:41:19.385 They were so close and, 1020 00:41:19.445 --> 00:41:21.835 and I, I obviously, anyway, 1021 00:41:21.835 --> 00:41:23.515 it ends up is gonna be heartbreaking, 1022 00:41:23.535 --> 00:41:27.835 but when you come to a stop in that regard on the runway, 1023 00:41:27.985 --> 00:41:31.355 it's just like, it's just so close. 1024 00:41:31.695 --> 00:41:35.285 But yeah. Anyways, we'll wait to find out what happens in, 1025 00:41:35.305 --> 00:41:38.825 uh, oh, 12 to 18 months. Mm-hmm . 1026 00:41:39.285 --> 00:41:42.065 Mm-hmm . Not, uh, not to end it on a, on a low note, 1027 00:41:42.125 --> 00:41:45.065 but, uh, again, wishing you all very merry 1028 00:41:45.185 --> 00:41:46.305 Christmas and happy holidays. 1029 00:41:47.205 --> 00:41:50.065 And it's just the one, it's just the one episode this week 1030 00:41:50.405 --> 00:41:53.505 and we'll be back to recount Christmas. 1031 00:41:53.845 --> 00:41:56.665 And I just want Nashville to really enjoy 1032 00:41:57.315 --> 00:41:58.385 their Christmas Eve. 1033 00:41:59.975 --> 00:42:01.345 This has been off track with Hinch 1034 00:42:01.345 --> 00:42:02.905 and Rossi Off Track is part 1035 00:42:02.905 --> 00:42:05.185 of the Sirius XM Sports Podcast Network. 1036 00:42:05.565 --> 00:42:06.585 If you enjoyed this episode 1037 00:42:06.585 --> 00:42:08.825 and want to hear more, please give a five star 1038 00:42:08.825 --> 00:42:09.985 rating and leave a review. 1039 00:42:10.705 --> 00:42:12.865 Subscribe today, wherever you stream your podcasts. 1040 00:42:13.045 --> 00:42:15.825 We are at Ask Offtrack on Twitter and Instagram. 1041 00:42:16.005 --> 00:42:18.705 And if you wanna follow us on Twitter, we're at Hinch Town 1042 00:42:18.705 --> 00:42:20.065 and at Alexander Rossi. 1043 00:42:20.285 --> 00:42:21.785 If you wanna follow them, though, 1044 00:42:21.785 --> 00:42:23.425 we have no idea why you would. 1045 00:42:23.815 --> 00:42:26.025 He's at the Tim Durham on Twitter. 1046 00:42:26.655 --> 00:42:28.585 Find us on YouTube and subscribe to our channel 1047 00:42:28.765 --> 00:42:29.945 for exclusive video content. 1048 00:42:30.445 --> 00:42:33.465 Off Track is produced by Tim Durham, and by that we mean f.