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This is, is off track.
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Hello and welcome.
Hello. Welcome.
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We're doing this old school
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Crunch. Crunch. Crunch, having a snack.
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Um, dude. All right. Tuesday episode.
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This is gonna be a fast one, guys.
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Uh, 'cause we all have lives and we all have things to do.
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And quite honestly, I, my day was, uh, booked, um,
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and then it became unbooked.
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So what happened? I wanted to join you guys.
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Oh, we'll, we'll talk about it later. I think.
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I think we need to have a rapid response first
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to some big news that came out.
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IndyCar News that came out yesterday post
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Detroit Grand Prix.
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What happened? This is the second time in two races
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that the second place, man, a lot of twos.
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2, 2, 2. That the second place guy has gotten penalized.
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Yeah. Don't finish. Second in Gateway
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Wasn't planning on it.
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I mean, there you go. He got to
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he got to keep it this time.
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Yes. But he lost all of
The points, which is
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What anyone cares about.
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Like no one really cares about the
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Trophy.
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So for those that weren't paying attention, Santino Ferucci,
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the, the 14 AJ FO car was found
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to have an underweight driver, ballast.
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Um, their, their car total was over the minimum weight,
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but the driver ballast was not weighted.
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Mm-hmm . So, mm-hmm . What is a driver? Ballast.
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So there needs to be a combined car
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and driver minimum weight.
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So there's kind of a minimum weight for the car itself
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that rolls across the tech pad.
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And then there is a, a weight for the driver.
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They've kind of set the driver average, not kind of,
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they have set the driver average weight at 185 pounds.
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So when we talk about how drivers have
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to go weigh in on Friday
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after practice when they remember, or
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Not
Too soon,
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no, Alex missed 10 minutes of practice
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because in Detroit, 'cause he forgot to do this.
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But you get 15 minutes at the check and flag of,
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We weren't gonna learn anything .
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I do like that they make it the last 10 minutes
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of the session just to like really screw you.
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Um, so you've got 15
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Minutes, I don't know, Detroit, Detroit practice two,
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the end of the session's usually a cluster.
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So anyways, whatever, doesn't matter. You got, you got it
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Designed that way.
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Go ahead. So yeah, you got 15 minutes
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after FB one to get to tech weigh in
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whatever amount under 185 you are.
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That's how much you have to add as your driver balance.
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So if you're a hun over 185, kind of tough luck.
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You're sorta, you're sort of just carrying
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around a little bit of extra weight.
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That's, that's what driver be
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Is necessarily, not necessarily,
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Not necessarily.
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'cause you can, there's weight savings
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that can be done on the car.
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Right. So ultimately your combined weight
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in theory could be the same as someone
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that weighs 130 pounds if you're able to get the car
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Lighter.
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So there's not a minimum weight on the car itself?
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No.
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the minimum weight is the combined weight of the driver,
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the ballast and the car
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With like x amount of fuel in it or something. Yeah.
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Got it.
Do you remember what that number is?
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It's like, it's like 1700 and
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Pounds, 1780 is what comes to mind?
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I don't know. It's something like that. Or 17. That's five
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DI have the email from IndyCar
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yesterday. I feel like doesn't
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Matter.
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Doesn't matter. The, the point, the point, the point
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of the matter is that Santino
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had zero performance advantage whatsoever
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because what matters in terms
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of lap time on a race car on a racetrack
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is the overall weight, the weight you're carrying
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around for the entire lap.
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Right? It doesn't matter that the car
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didn't have the correct amount of weight in the alleged spot
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that they were supposed to put it,
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not the alleged spot in the spot.
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They were supposed to put it in theory,
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I guess you could argue that there's a weight distribution
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thing, but like none of this was done.
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Again, I don't think out of any sort of intention.
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It was very similar to the penalty that I had in 2022.
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In DGP where we won the race rolled across the tech scales.
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We were over the, the minimum weight, combined weight,
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but they pulled out the water bag,
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which I had in the car, the entire race.
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Right. And the car fell under,
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and technically the water bag cannot be used
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as ballast even though that it was something
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that was in the car for the entire race that was affected.
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So your your total weight was legal,
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but the way you got there wasn't Correct.
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Identical to Santino.
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So, okay. Now obviously this was not like Marcus
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Erickson's penalty where he was moved to the back
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after the fact, right?
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Um, and you just said this had no effect on the actual
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legality of the combined weight of the car.
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But like did the attenuator have anything to do with,
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or did, did the, did the changes
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that Marcus had done have anything to do with like, did
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that actually have a performance value? Two
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J Wait, just
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so we're clear, I zoned out for a second there.
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We did mention that the car was
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overweight on its own, right? Yes.
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So that, and by the way, it's 1,785
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pounds the minimum. There
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You go.
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Pretty close. So what was the question?
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Why, why was Mark was thrown in the back
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and so Yeah. Was thrown in the back
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And, and I understand the idea that like
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this was an accident where the other ones you could argue
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were, were clearly they intended to break the rule or,
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or flirt with the rule.
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But like, did the other penalties
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that had really harsh responses, like the Attenuator
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or like Marcus Erickson, did they have a
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competitive advantage from them?
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Or is it just because it was blatant?
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I think, I think, well Alex, it's kind of your theory.
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I mean we talked about this
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and you kind of had the theory being that yeah, one was a,
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an human error, intentional modification of a part, right?
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Regardless of whether it was for a performance advantage at
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aesthetic advantage, a fit, like just
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to make it physically fit versus
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this was sort of an oversight, like a, a human error thing.
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Is that, 'cause we've not, I don't think,
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think we've actually heard from anyone officially why
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the penalty was what it was.
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It is in line with what we're used to seeing. Right?
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25 points. $25,000. That's what you got in in DGP.
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That's what I got at Texas. There's a precedent for that.
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It was the indie ones that seemed a little more
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outside the realm of what we're used to.
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And I that, you know, this is kind of your theory as to why
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that is the case in this particular situation.
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Right. I think as, as much as malicious is an unfair word,
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um, there's, I think two can be viewed as intent
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to live in the gray area or to break a rule or to try
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and be clever or whatever.
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And the other one is purely a human error
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or like you said, an oversight sort of thing.
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Um, so yeah, I think
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that's why there's the discrepancy in penalties.
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Again, this is all assumption. I'd love some clarity on it.
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Like it'd be nice if,
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because I feel like a lot of people are confused.
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So Yeah. I'm surprised that there's not like someone
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that said, Hey, we get why this would seem weird
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'cause we just did this a week ago to the second place car
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for a much more severe penalty.
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And these are the reasons why this is not the same case.
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'cause like I think that would be nice to hear.
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So I don't watch nascar,
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but I feel like in cup,
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I always see on social media when they have a penalty
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that's given for somebody failing tech,
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they will do some sort of video where they'll show the part
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that didn't match or they'll go through
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and explain, you know, this was like this, this is
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how we caught it, this is why this penalty was given.
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Yeah. So I feel like that would be helpful.
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NASCAR's got a bit more of a history of this and,
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and again, this is something that we were talking about is
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we're used to in NASCAR on like a Monday hearing a litany
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of, all right, so it's almost like an expected thing.
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Here's who's getting, you know, a $10,000 fine
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for a lug nut being loose or mm-hmm .
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Here's, you know, x all the way up
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to here's a hundred thousand dollars
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and a hundred po owner points and a suspended crew chief.
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Right? Um, where like we have not really had that
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and it, it almost seems like we're entering this world
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where now it's like just a matter of who
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and what will be dinged in,
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in post qualifying or race tech.
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Again, nothing wrong with that, if that's kind of understood
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to be, you know, the thing that like the, the,
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the methodology moving forward.
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I do think it's a, it was a bit
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of an oversight on the IndyCar side
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to not offer an explanation just in light of what we've been
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through in May to different scenarios with
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multiple high profile disqualifications,
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however you wanna call it.
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Um, and not having some clarity on why
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this one, why this penalty realm is different.
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I'm sure there is a good reason, but when I go
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and look at, you know, the response on Twitter or Instagram
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or whatever, it's the number one question.
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It's like, well why is he allowed
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to quote unquote keep the second place?
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Um, so it's, you know, we assume that's what it is.
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Surprised that there's not a little bit more
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clarity from IndyCar on that.
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I imagine when we get to Gateway, some journalists will ask
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that question to somebody who knows that answer
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and we'll all be smarter for it at the end of it.
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But for the time being, there's still a little bit of,
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of question mark as to why important thing is
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no discernible performance advantage for Santino.
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So nobody should care. Really.
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This is just a, it's a tech thing.
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It's just a, it's a simple rules thing.
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The amount of driver ballas he was supposed
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to have in the car was not correct,
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even though the total amount
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of wa in the car was assumedly more
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Than 10, 10 pounds over the minimum weight of the car. .
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Yeah. The only thing is,
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I don't think anywhere has actually stated
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how much under the driver ballast was.
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I didn't see the email, but I can go back.
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We're, I don't think it's said it in email. We're we're, I
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Love how Tim has referenced this email like four times.
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He just loves to get the email.
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He just loves it. He's on the media
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list now. I, he's like, well, you
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Guys know, know my fomo. It's
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True.
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I don't get the email. I still think,
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I didn't think this was the kind of thing that you'd be
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About.
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I wanna, I wanna be involved in everything.
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Also, I'm, I'm going to say this just
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because we stressed this when it came to Marcus and,
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and, um, Kirkwood and,
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and everybody who got the, the penalties are qualifying
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around the 500 and, and
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after the 500, nothing to do with the driver. .
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Santino, Santino wasn't loading the ballast, right? Mm.
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No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding not.
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So yeah, so that's, that's like the IndyCar news of the day.
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We've got the full Detroit debrief coming, uh,
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obviously on the Thursday episode as per usual.
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Um, that felt,
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Wait, before we get to the boat stuff,
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because I know we did what
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Boat stuff.
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I thought that's where you're transitioning.
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What do you assume it's boat stuff?
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Tim, I'm just interrupting again.
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Sorry. Before we transition off this. Okay.
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Knowing what you guys know now, I feel like you've,
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you've kind of hinted at the fact
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that you don't think he should have had the rate, I have
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to edit this in five minutes. ,
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like
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S sake Tim James saying,
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You know, that it, it seems like you're implying you agree
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that he should not have had the second place forfeited
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or is that, is that not what you guys are saying?
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No, I'm not saying that. I think, I think there just needs
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to be a little bit more clarity
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and understanding as to why two tech infringements happened
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and there was, sorry, three tech infr, sorry,
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four tech infringements hap sorry,
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six tech infringements happened.
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Um, and there was post-event penalties,
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yet five were essentially the same and one was different.
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I, I am gonna say that I do agree he should not have lost
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it, just as I agree that Marcus, Kyle
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and Callum shouldn't have lost theirs.
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It's more just the explaining
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and understanding the differences to why one penalty was
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what it was versus the other for me at least.
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Uh, but yeah. Do I think that a guy should,
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do I think any driver should lose a second place
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because their driver balance was off by a pound or two?
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No, I do not points fines. Sure.
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Rule books exist for a reason,
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black and white, all that stuff.
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I get it. But, uh, no, fundamentally I don't think
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that someone should lose for something like that.
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Anyway. Uh, little bit of, little bit of time off,
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uh, before the next race.
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So, you know what, like what was on your list of things
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to accomplish this week?
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Alex?
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Well, James, um, I, uh, I
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I I think people know that I, I have a boat.
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Um, yeah, we've
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Talked about
The boat and boats.
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Boats like, like cars, like electronics,
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like whatever they have warranties.
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Mm-hmm . And uh, I, um,
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my warranty is expiring at the end of the month.
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Um, I obviously have not had much time this past six weeks.
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And why doing, I don't envision, oh, just stuff
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and babies and cars and stuff.
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And I don't envision that I'm gonna have much time coming up
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in the next three weeks with two races and such.
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So took advantage of a beautiful day.
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You, uh, are a couple friends of ours, Connor Christian, uh,
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decided to take a little nice Tuesday
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afternoon wake surf session.
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Mm-hmm . And um, I don't know, about an hour in,
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after we had lunch, Connor was, was surfing behind the boat.
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Everything was going fine. He was doing great.
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We were having a great time listening to music in the sun,
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pretty empty lake.
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And we just hear a bang and we start slowing down
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and Connor doesn't start slowing down .
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And fortunately like he had the, like, the wherewithal
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to like turn left and not run into the back of the boat.
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'cause we don't need to be breaking
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race car drivers obviously.
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Um, and it would seem that we had some sort
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of drive line catastrophic failure, whether
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that's drive shaft gearbox, it's not the prop prop's fine,
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but the engine just revs
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and there's no spinning of the proppy so you don't go
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Anywhere.
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Lot of clunky clingy noise. A
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Lot of clunky, which, so in the moment I was like,
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uh, what do I do?
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Because what do you do in that situation?
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Um, so you recommended that I call them Marina,
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and I called them Marina,
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and they just laughed at me. Were,
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That was the
Best part.
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They were like, and I was like, okay,
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well if you don't have a tow service, that's fine.
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Do you have like a number of like, I'm sure there's a guy
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that can, would love to take 500 off me, right.
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To come tow me in. And she was like, uh, no boaters
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who are in this situation just rely on other boaters
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to be nice and help them.
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And I was like, cool, cool, cool,
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cool. Tight, tight, tight. It's
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A neighbor lease system.
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Yeah. So, uh, my buddy got on the phone to one
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of his friends to see if he could help.
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And I called, uh, our good friend, the three of,
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I mean friend of, very good friend of all of us,
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Marissa Andretti.
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Um, because obviously Michael lives on that lake,
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maybe not obviously, but Michael lives on that lake.
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And, um, I was like, Hey, is your dad home?
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Or if he's not home, is there someone at the house
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that wouldn't mind coming and rescuing us?
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And she laughed for about 30 seconds
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and I was like, yeah, I'll, I'm on it.
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And no less than 10 minutes later,
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Michael Andretti was rolling up on a pontoon.
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He was in the middle of a business meeting.
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So in, in, in very much Michael fashion,
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he just took the guy out on the pontoon with him
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and they continued having their meeting
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as they toed us into the dock, which was incredible.
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It was, it was just a comically hilarious situation.
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I mean, I just, I do wanna go back to the point
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where it all happened
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and Connor's behind the boat, not a,
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not a super experienced wake surfer, right?
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Mm-hmm . But I've always looked at wake surfing as like
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the safe, safest thing, safest kinda recreational thing
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that a driver sports can do.
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Midseason, right? Yes.
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Like of any kind, like we, how many guys have broken
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You?
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You're going nine miles an hour,
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Nine miles an hour into water.
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Like what's the worst that could happen?
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Evidently when the boat just like pulls the e-brake on you
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and you're using the boat for propulsion
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and you are hanging right off the back of said boat.
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Um, Connor does deserve Arnold mention
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for not just driving straight into the
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back of the thing and losing
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Some teeth. Yeah. And
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Losing some teeth.
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Maybe a couple stitches wouldn't have been great.
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Uh, hilarious. And then, yeah, the visual of just all
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of us sitting in the boat as we get towed back to the marina
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by Michael Andretti was of,
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Of all people
So amazingly comical.
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And to, to Connor's point,
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there were four racing drivers in
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some capacity on that boat.
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All of them at some point in their life had driven
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a car owned by Michael Andre .
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And
Kind of when I saw his tweet, it reminded me
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of Marissa's wedding
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because it was you, you were up there with them.
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It was you, Marissa, and Greg.
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I was like, ah, just three of Michael's employees,
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Just, and, and it was, it was funny
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'cause like, um, I didn't, I didn't really know
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like what kind of mood he'd be in about it all.
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Um, and he was just loving it.
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'cause he was like, Hey man, you're lucky I'm retired
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now.
,
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Yes, you're right. Yeah.
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This is opening line rocking up. It was, it was hilarious.
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And then yeah, as he's telling us him
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and the guy he was with just kind of continued their,
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their chat on the boat, their meeting.
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So very, uh, yeah, very
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Efficient.
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The next, the next big concern was, so this, I I'm, it's a,
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it's a very large boat.
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It's a heavy
Boat boat.
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It's a heavy, heavy boat, big boat.
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And I, I was a little concerned about
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how we were gonna get it on the trailer
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because previous vehicles that I've owned, um, kind
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of required you to power load it a little bit for fear
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of ending up on qualified captain
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because you back your truck or your car
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or whatever too far down the, uh, E
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Ex explain power loading.
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Power loading. That's when it's the trailer's in the
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water, but not all the way.
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And you just use all 600 horsepower of, you know,
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Elmore Marine engines
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to just power your way onto the trailer.
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Um, because this boat, you can't, you can't winch on like,
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it's not, I mean it's, it's
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Too heavy. It,
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I mean, it's, it's pushing 10,000 pounds, right?
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So, um, it's not a little fishing boat or whatever.
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So thankfully, um, I've got a, uh,
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I've got a very big three quarter ton Chevy diesel durmax,
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uh, company car that we backed
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that bitch like in to the lake.
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Um, and we were like, well, should be fine.
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Uh, and we were able,
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apparently when you submerge the entire trailer, um,
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into the lake in half the truck,
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then you can easily bring the boat on
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because it's not on anything.
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It's truly still floating in the water.
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Um, and yeah, we, uh, we pulled her out, um,
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and it's going in to the shop tomorrow.
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Already made the call, already made the booking.
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Uh, and they were like, sweet, your warranty is valid.
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Um, and we will get on ordering parts
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immediately, I think. So
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The takeaway here is if you are stranded on Geist, um,
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Michael Andrei will save you.
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He's, he's retired.
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I think that's, that is what he's doing. Thinks
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Happy to become.
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I think the takeaway is that either all products are meant
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to fail in and around warranty time.
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Yes. Uh, so anything that you have
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that has a warranty expiring,
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go use the out of it right now.
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Go throttle the thing for the last month to Yeah.
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To make sure it is good to go try to force that.
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Yeah, a hundred percent. Um, yeah, I frankly,
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I think Michael's sitting on a great business idea.
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'cause evidently there is nobody on Geist
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that does any kind of towing service. And
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Look, instead Van Auto Sport, it's Andretti Towing.
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It's like those hikers that get lost
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and then it turns out Harrison Ford saves them.
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Have you heard all those stories?
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It's happened more than once. It's like, it's that,
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I've heard stories
Like
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That from landing on wrong runways.
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Yeah. Or golf courses.
Well,
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the good Harrison giveth the good Harrison. Take it
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away. ,
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I'm sure that's a saying.
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But anyways guys, that's our Tuesday.
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Um, definitely tune in, uh, for Thursday.
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'cause all the nitty gritty that you want
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to hear about Detroit, um, is there, we talk about it.
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Just real quick, 1.06 million peaked at 1.2
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for Detroit. Not bad.
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Congrats. Congrats.
Pretty happy with that.
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Very good James. Not a bad place to be.
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And we're just gonna keep that rolling, man.
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It doesn't happen overnight,
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but we're making progress every week
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and things are moving along.
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So love that team. Oh,
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This
First appearance.
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And here is our guest for the Tuesday episode. Baby
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Ben.
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I know Buddy so much.
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I don't know. He's flailing.
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Anyways, guys, great to see you.
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This has been off track with Hinch and Rossi.
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Off Track is part of the Sirius XM Sports Podcast Network.
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We are at Ask Offtrack on Twitter and Instagram.
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And if you wanna follow us on Twitter, we're at Hinch Town
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He's at the Tim Durham on Twitter.
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