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<v Speaker 1>This is off track of the like, like generic</v>

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go-to dollar a bottle.

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Water brands. I, I gotta say

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that like ice mound is pretty salt arrowhead's not bad.

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The Nestle water is shockingly good for a chocolate company.

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<v Speaker 2>I think three days in a desert.</v>

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And I still wouldn't drink Dasani though.

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You couldn't be, I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I would drink my own piss before Dasani.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, no.</v>
<v Speaker 1>What um, have you guys ever had these things?</v>

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Sorry Alex, have you ever had these things?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we gotta stop on the chewing the</v>

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joke. The joke is done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even, that's not even me.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well you can</v>
<v Speaker 1>Genuinely enjoying these things.</v>

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So hey, made good. If you're

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listening, we like your product.

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Send us some Alex. If your

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<v Speaker 3>Gold goldfish is,</v>
<v Speaker 1>We like you.</v>

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So those, those goldfish things are good.

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What happened to the fried Ritz? Do you remember?

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Like the air fried Ritz crackers that we found

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and they were like somewhere between a chip

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and a cracker and they were insanely good.

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<v Speaker 3>No,</v>
<v Speaker 1>No. Uh, they were so good. They were, I don't know.</v>

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We had, we kept finding 'em for like a minute

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and they, they had salt vinegar ones. I

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<v Speaker 3>Do remember</v>
<v Speaker 1>They were banging.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>But I think these, these have replaced those,</v>

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these are identical to those.

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<v Speaker 1>It said, that's what reminded me of it.</v>

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It looks very similar. It sounds, I can tell

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by the crunch it's a similar texture.

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Do you know what like the, the, the most dangerous phrases

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that somebody can say to me as Alex, just absolutely necks

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that bag of goldfish is,

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I think we needed, I think we need two trips.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we need what</v>
<v Speaker 1>I think we</v>

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need, I think we need two trips.

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I think we need to do it in two trips.

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It doesn't matter what it is.

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Groceries, like vacation, it doesn't matter.

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No, no, no, no, no. Like groceries, uh, like luggage after.

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It doesn't matter if I'm, if I've got a car parked in front

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of my house or my garage and we're emptying it

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and someone says to me, I think we need two trips.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a challenge. The,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>The length of time I will spend</v>

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to orchestrate your engineer.

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How to do it in one go. Yeah.

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Like I've, I'm never more determined

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for anything in life than to do it in one trip.

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If somebody says that, even if they don't, like,

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I'll open the back, like the tailgate of the truck

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and just be like, Hmm, how are we gonna do this today?

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And like, it'll take me much longer.

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Like I will spend time to make it work.

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It'll not be faster, but it's just a principle thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that. I'm</v>
<v Speaker 3>Not,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I Yeah, no, if you have to go back,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that'd be right up your alley.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>If you have to go back for groceries, you failed.</v>

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If you have to go back to your car

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for a second time. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm</v>
<v Speaker 3>Gonna carry, I'm gonna carry like a lot of them.</v>

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But if I need to go back, like, okay, I'm sorry.

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So you go to Costco

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and you just unload 300 pounds of &lt;inaudible&gt; at once?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go to</v>
<v Speaker 2>Costco. I feel like Costco's different.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Is Costco different? Because</v>

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<v Speaker 2>You buy stuff in bulk in Costco.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So everything is bulk. What if I buy, I'm</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about like a normal, I'm talking about like a</v>

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normal grocery store run.

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Costco is separate, I think. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>But luggage is not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, but luggage for summary.</v>

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'cause like if you can carry it all through the airport,

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you can carry it to the door. That's

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<v Speaker 2>A good</v>
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Right? Like it's an amount of stuff you've had to transport

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altogether for the entire

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duration of whatever time you've got.

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Well, I'm actually shocked, Alex.

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I kind of thought this would be this exact sort of thing

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that you would like gravitate towards

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<v Speaker 3>Inefficiency. No,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's But, but going back</v>

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and forth, that's why find inefficient,

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even though often times.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but you literally, mm,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

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It goes the other way. A lot of times it doesn't.

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A lot of times I figure it out

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and it is faster and more efficient.

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I just like the challenge, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright. Well, Alex,</v>

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how was your first Father's Day as a dad?

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Did Ben get you anything cool?

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<v Speaker 3>Um, no. Uh, and I wasn't with him</v>

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and, uh, my job sucked, so, I mean,

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I don't know. It was fun. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>Good one. It was a good one. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Your plane landed safely. So</v>

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<v Speaker 3>A lot, lots more, lots more.</v>

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Lots more coming up. There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Can only go up from here. Hmm.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Well you, Tim,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>How was your, how was your, how was your Father's day?</v>

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Hold on. Let's not, let's not jump ahead here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Um, it was good. Went to the, uh, the car show.</v>

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They do an annual, uh, uh,

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car show on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills on Father's Day.

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So I went and looked at a bunch of cars.

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I'll never be able to afford Beverly Hills. Does it?

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<v Speaker 3>Copy? No protests interrupted</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It.</v>

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No. Weirdly those weren't, uh,

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in Beverly Hills, if you, okay.

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I don't wanna get into politics at all.

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Those protests covered like seven blocks.

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We're a massive city. Those protests were very small.

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That was like, it,

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it didn't affect my day-to-day life at all

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with these protests going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Understood. So</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, went, went there, um, walked up</v>

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and down Rodeo Drive, looked at some cool cars.

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I figured out like the Midwestern pole in me

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to become like a dad

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that's into car shows is getting stronger every year.

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Okay, that's good. I was enjoying it.

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I like, like the 1950s and sixties Mercedes the most.

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Those are, those are the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. No, I, I was gonna say no, Tim,</v>

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you could probably afford some of these cars,

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but then you said that and now, now you can't.

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Yeah, no, definitely not that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I checked, I looked. Yeah. And then that's 300</v>

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<v Speaker 1>L</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

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Grilled a burger and, uh,

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and played video games with Hazel for the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>What video games</v>
<v Speaker 2>We played, uh,</v>

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the Harry Potter thing on Switch,

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and then we played Fortnite. Okay. Fortnite.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't Fortnite like a army? Shoot him up game?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And Hazel's surprisingly good at it. So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You clearly don't have any qualms about</v>

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children playing violent video games?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I played a lot of violent video games.</v>

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Then again, I turned out like me. Yeah.

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On second thought, , maybe I should make some adjustments.

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Could be some issues. You know, you said you

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<v Speaker 1>Growed a burger and I saw you post it.</v>

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You said your annual Father's Day burger. Is this a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've done it every year. Uh, does</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Hazel make it for you?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, but she's a vegetarian make, so I make her her own.</v>

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Okay. Uh, no, I make it, it's, it's on a bagel.

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It's with bacon. I put the onions

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and the garlic inside of it.

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It's got pepper jack cheese and American cheese

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and a little bit of horseradish.

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<v Speaker 1>So two questions. Where did this recipe come from</v>

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and why a bagel? I

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know, but it's really good.</v>

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It's just did it the first year

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and I was like, I kind of like this.

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So I just do it with a bagel on, uh, on Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I feel like the reason you did it the first year</v>

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was you were out of other bread like materials.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good chance. Very good chance. That's what happened.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You like, okay, bagels kind of bread. Let's do</v>

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this
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Yeah. Yeah. But I try it, I recommend it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. I love that. All right.</v>

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Uh, I played golf, which was cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You golf, you were just talking about before,</v>

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before we started recording.

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I'm, you were talking night races

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and why, what you got to do a result of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, not exactly, you didn't invite me</v>

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to your golf, so I went golfing on my own.

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Um, no dude, I,

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the hotel we stayed at had like two golf simulators in it.

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And because night races are the greatest things on earth,

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and we can, we can, we're gonna talk about all the different

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ra ways that night races are amazing,

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but one of them is you get to come in a little bit later.

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And so after a nice brunch meeting with our producer

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and director, we, uh, well, Buxton, to be fair,

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wasn't feeling a hundred percent.

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So we, we got permission

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to go in a little bit later than originally planned.

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And, uh, we took that opportunity to rest up at the hotel,

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watch the F1 race, go hit a few balls at the, uh, simulator

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and then cruise on in and call a banger of a race.

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So, um, I'm pro night

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races in general.

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Alex, are you pro night races? How

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<v Speaker 3>Could you not be pro night race?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree, brother.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. How could you make</v>

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multiple trips for groceries? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Touche.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Um, I, the only thing I,</v>

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I'm pro night races.

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I don't know that I'm pro two day events.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, interesting. Okay. Explain. Um,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Well</v>
<v Speaker 1>Just 'cause Saturday's so busy. It's awful.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's, and it's just horrible.</v>

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It's horrible on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you have any weather, it</v>

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delac it and it makes it even harder.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's just, it's terrible.</v>

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Um, and then it's another kick in the &lt;inaudible&gt;

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on Sunday when you sit around and don't do anything

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because you're waiting for the greatest time

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to race on Earth.

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Um, I'm not saying

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that you can necessarily do anything Sunday.

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Maybe you could. Um, I don't know.

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It just, it, it seems like, I, I, to be honest, I don't know

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that I like any of the Indy car weekend schedules even on

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three day events, because Friday is also a waste of time.

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Um, right. So I, I think our, just our time management

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as a series needs some work. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, or track time management.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think the two day event</v>

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at Indie GP works like Saturday is still busy,

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but like Sunday isn't a waste in terms of like,

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you're not doing nothing all day.

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'cause you have warmup and then you have the race,

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and then you're kind of outta there at a reasonable hour.

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Now, obviously that's not a night race,

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but like question, would it be possible to do,

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could you do, could you do qualifying on Sunday

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and do your practices on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably. And the question then becomes,</v>

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if a driver has an incident in qualifying, how much time do

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.</v>

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Oh, you qualify at 11:00 AM and if the race is at eight,

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, what time, what time was your crew into</v>

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the track on Sunday?

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Two. So that's a problem.

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If you're qualifying at 11, you're, so

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<v Speaker 3>If you qualify in at eight, so if you qualify at two,</v>

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you're in it noon, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we nearly had to because of the threat of rain.</v>

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Right. So there was like a chance

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't the rain on weren't</v>

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on Saturday, we weren't gonna qualify.

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We were gonna practice for,

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we were gonna do the race practice on Sunday,

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which isn't really a solution

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because you wanna practice the race practice in

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as similar conditions at night as possible to the race.

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Yeah. Or at least evening time anyways.

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I don't know it, there's, maybe there's not a solution to it

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for night races at least.

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Um, and I'm just griping about already looking ahead

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to schedule in Road America

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where we're gonna get there at noon on Thursday

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and not do anything on track till 4:00 PM on Friday.

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Um, but that is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we go golfing on Friday morning?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>No.</v>
<v Speaker 1>All right. I</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Was, that felt like a No.</v>

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That's gonna become a yes as soon as we finish

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<v Speaker 1>Recording .</v>

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No, that felt like a No. You are not gonna go golfing.

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I'm gonna go golfing, but you're not invited

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because either we already have four

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or I know how much you hate it and suck at it

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and we just don't want you part of that,

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which is all totally fair.

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Um, I'll tell you, I'll tell you

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what the rain delay on Saturday did do though.

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Uh, Buxton, I don't know how this started.

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I don't know what prompted it,

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but he started talking about N 64

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and how great goldeneye was.

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And he went on his phone

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and found a like, old video game

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store, like 10 minutes from the track, called them

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and well told our stage manager, Cynthia, stage manager,

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Cynthia about it, who then called them,

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saw if they had an N 64 4 controllers

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and goldeneye, all of which they did.

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We bought it there on the phone, had someone go pick it up.

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So basically Cynthia and Hannah from Fox. Amen.

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Shout out, got a 64 with goldeneye delivered

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to the booth within like three hours

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of this idea popping up.

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And then in between sessions we were just plugging into our

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program monitor and sitting up there and playing Goldeneye.

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It was incredible. It was one of the best days

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of the race rack ever for a rain delayed day at nol.

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You guys would've been so proud.

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It wasn't quite as good as bringing your own TV onto the

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airplane like you two did ,

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but it wasn't far off like it was.

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We, we like, we're reconnecting chords in the booth so

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that way we could have 64 playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think so? Good. Do you think Goldeneye is better</v>

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than like Zelda?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Butzel not multi multi. It's multiplayer.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Mario Karts still the best, right?</v>

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Mario Karts still the best,

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but Mario Kart was not available at the store.

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We will have it for next week,

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but, uh, I think, I think goldeneye is one

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of the best multiplayer games Yeah.

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Ever created for any console ever. This

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<v Speaker 2>Just reminded me of one thing this weekend I went over</v>

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to the girlfriend's house and played her.

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She got the new switch, so I played the new Mario Kart.

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She's like, oh yeah, let's try it. Mario Kart.

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I was like, okay, I'm going to warn you here that like,

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I'm very good at Mario Kart .

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Like, uh, she's like, well, no, no,

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don't, don't like, let me win.

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Let's play. And I, she, it didn't go great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I bet that was a huge turn on being super good at</v>

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Mario Kart and just destroying her. Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 2>That was great.</v>

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It it wasn't great. Sorry Alex, you had your hand up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm, I'm just, is this the first time we're actually</v>

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admitting you have a girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've talked about it. I think</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about, I don't know if we've ever heard</v>

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you use that term.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 1>No. On the show,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>So, okay.</v>

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Well she's not that good at Mario Kart .

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. Nice. Dude.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Alex, I have a question for you.</v>

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As an avid golfer, have you ever set your phone up

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behind like a tee box and videotaped your swing? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care that much. Okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Here's the thing. We all know my</v>

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position on golf, right?

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And I do actually see some value if you're trying

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to be better of videoing your,

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I guess it's not video taping anymore,

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but videoing your swing and being able to analyze it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Get to review it. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I get it. There is literally nobody on social media</v>

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that cares what your swing looks like.

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So the, the posting of just like a random driving range

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shot, I almost rather I feel the see your lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel the same way about</v>

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televised golf in general though. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But those are like pros doing it. Well, still</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm with you. And,</v>

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and even that's unbearable to watch.

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Like I get that you want to tape it because you, but like,

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unless something hilariously bad happens, like that's, yeah.

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That's, if it's funny, cool.

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If you're just like showing people

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that you can swing a golf club,

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you are not in an elite group.

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Like a million people a day in this country do that.

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I don't know if anybody really wants to see it.

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Maybe I'm wrong. Alex. As an avid golf guy,

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are you super stoked when you see a friend

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of yours put up a story

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of them just swaying at a driving range? No.

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<v Speaker 3>No. There are some like golf pros</v>

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or like semi pros. If

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<v Speaker 1>It's a, if it's a golf account</v>

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<v Speaker 3>That I follow, that I watch Yeah.</v>

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And I'm like, that's pretty sick.

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'cause it was like an incredible shot.

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But it's not just them hacking away at a driving range.

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It's like, right. Oh,

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this is a 140 foot chip in over water straight in the hole.

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Like, that's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally. That I understand.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Or like Bryson making a shot over his house</v>

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and he tried one shot every day

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for like 86 days until he got it in.

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That was kind of cool. Yeah, it's impressive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>It's impressive.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.</v>
<v Speaker 4>Golf. Okay.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well there was a race, um, not great for you,</v>

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Alex, but, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Why Tim?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Because I thought you were gonna win.</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Why? I dunno.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Touche, but, uh, an entertaining race.</v>

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The, the in it, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>Show.</v>

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I wanna know why it wasn't good for me, Tim,

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from in your viewpoint, because I

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<v Speaker 2>Thought you were gonna win. I already said</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It was better than 16 other people's.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I Okay. . All right.</v>

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You said you said it was worse than 10.

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So , you said you didn't have a great day at work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Mean you can say it because you don't</v>

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know why it would be bad or

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<v Speaker 2>Not.</v>

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Okay. All right. Sorry.

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I, I should have assumed you'd be thrilled with 11th place.

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That's my bad for holding you to a higher standard.

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I won't make that mistake again.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm probably more thrilled than Joseph.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair. Um,</v>
<v Speaker 3>And Scott and Will. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Not agree. Not a great run for</v>

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<v Speaker 3>The Penskes Penske Corp.</v>

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Yeah, I bet Rogers happy he chose Lamar over Gateway. .

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I was just trying to do a segue</v>

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and, uh, talking about the race,

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but if you wanna be difficult about it,

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let's, let's be difficult

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<v Speaker 1>About Alex.</v>

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How was your night? How was your night pal?

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<v Speaker 3>Terrible. It's terrible.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Tell us why. But we can</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Say it, but we're allowed</v>

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to say it and go. Great. No, no. I

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<v Speaker 1>He's allowed to say it.</v>

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Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, James is allowed to say it</v>

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because he probably has some like reasoning to back it up.

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You, you know, nothing. My

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<v Speaker 2>Reasoning was you said it wasn't good.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>average reasoning at best. That's, that's just lazy.</v>

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That's just, that's, that's like plagiarizing reasoning.

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Plagiarism reasoning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Dad,</v>
<v Speaker 2>You just came here for a fight.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Show your work , you're like,</v>

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cite your sources. It was you motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, show your work.</v>

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Oh, he pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, well</v>

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<v Speaker 4>Show your work.</v>

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Be on a T-shirt now. That's the next T-shirt.

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Oh Lord. All

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<v Speaker 1>Right.</v>

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Sorry. Anyway, how was your terrible

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night,
<v Speaker 4>?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, I I it was just bad.</v>

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Um, the weekend was generally good.

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We were pretty good in practice.

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One going into qualifying

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and then we, uh,

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I think underestimated how quick we were gonna go.

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So we missed the gearing a little bit.

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And James, you know, it's pretty big penalty on a short oval

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if you're, if you're too short

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and it's kind of a double whammy, um,

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because you are using the hybrid a little bit to,

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There's some workarounds with the hybrid.

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And so we, anyways, our lab one wasn't very good

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'cause of some things, uh, sequences that,

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that were a little screwy.

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Um, so we qualified 12th,

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I think we could have qualified like seventh, um,

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which ultimately wouldn't have mattered in the race

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because everything that was good on Saturday

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was no longer good on Sunday.

467
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Um, I don't have any answers

468
00:18:03.865 --> 00:18:07.925
for anyone at the moment other than we were of the cars

469
00:18:07.925 --> 00:18:11.005
that finished, there was only one car slower than us.

470
00:18:11.345 --> 00:18:14.045
Um, and this is not an insult to anyone, it's just the fact

471
00:18:14.115 --> 00:18:18.525
that we were, we were essentially the worst, um, of anyone

472
00:18:18.525 --> 00:18:20.365
that finished out there bar one car.

473
00:18:20.585 --> 00:18:23.085
So, uh, we're gonna try and understand why that is.

474
00:18:23.465 --> 00:18:27.085
Um, because it was the same car that Christian had

475
00:18:27.345 --> 00:18:29.885
and it was the same car that I had on Saturday night

476
00:18:29.885 --> 00:18:30.925
that we were very happy with.

477
00:18:31.065 --> 00:18:34.165
So very disappointing with that just

478
00:18:34.165 --> 00:18:35.885
because, not really the result.

479
00:18:36.205 --> 00:18:39.005
'cause like there's indie, we all know indie car racing

480
00:18:39.265 --> 00:18:41.325
and you can have good cars and finish 11th

481
00:18:41.425 --> 00:18:43.765
and, you know, that's sometimes the way the cookie crumbles,

482
00:18:43.825 --> 00:18:46.965
but it's just, it's disappointing when you're &lt;inaudible&gt;

483
00:18:47.465 --> 00:18:48.845
and you finish 11th, um,

484
00:18:48.845 --> 00:18:51.925
because there's really no like, positive to take from it

485
00:18:51.975 --> 00:18:53.485
<v Speaker 1>Other than the fact that you finished 11th</v>

486
00:18:53.745 --> 00:18:56.005
and guys with better cars finished behind you

487
00:18:56.005 --> 00:18:57.205
because like Yes.

488
00:18:57.305 --> 00:19:00.125
That's actually a pretty good salvation all things

489
00:19:00.565 --> 00:19:01.565
<v Speaker 3>Considered.</v>

490
00:19:01.565 --> 00:19:03.325
Well, I mean, if you're a glass half full kind

491
00:19:03.325 --> 00:19:06.325
of guy versus a glass half empty kind of guy, then Yeah.

492
00:19:06.325 --> 00:19:09.485
Right, right, right. Or if you're Alex, that glass

493
00:19:11.195 --> 00:19:13.765
<v Speaker 1>Just smashes the glass on the sidewalk.</v>

494
00:19:14.105 --> 00:19:15.965
<v Speaker 3>Um, but I want to, I want to take a moment</v>

495
00:19:16.185 --> 00:19:18.645
to give huge props to Christian

496
00:19:18.645 --> 00:19:22.405
because he, he had a lot

497
00:19:22.405 --> 00:19:24.245
of things dealt against him.

498
00:19:24.745 --> 00:19:28.445
Um, he was on the wrong side of a pit, closed light

499
00:19:28.475 --> 00:19:30.845
with the, the Joseph Louie accident.

500
00:19:31.185 --> 00:19:35.125
Um, so he took, uh, service in a closed pit lane,

501
00:19:35.335 --> 00:19:36.885
which meant that he had to do a restart

502
00:19:36.915 --> 00:19:38.005
from the back of the field.

503
00:19:38.505 --> 00:19:41.125
He was on fire at what point in pit lane.

504
00:19:41.745 --> 00:19:45.245
Um, and he, he was without a doubt,

505
00:19:45.585 --> 00:19:46.965
the best car out there.

506
00:19:47.225 --> 00:19:50.765
Um, and had I think double the amount

507
00:19:50.765 --> 00:19:53.085
of on track passes of anyone else.

508
00:19:53.785 --> 00:19:56.365
And his third place was not a, oh,

509
00:19:56.385 --> 00:19:58.445
he was just really brave on a restart

510
00:19:58.465 --> 00:20:00.285
and cut a yellow sort of thing.

511
00:20:00.285 --> 00:20:02.845
Like he was, he was the class

512
00:20:02.845 --> 00:20:04.765
of the field out there for the entire night.

513
00:20:04.905 --> 00:20:08.365
Um, so I just wanna say that that's hugely impressive.

514
00:20:08.465 --> 00:20:10.045
So congrats to him. Congrats.

515
00:20:10.085 --> 00:20:12.525
DCR that's the, the first podium

516
00:20:12.585 --> 00:20:13.605
for the new ownership group.

517
00:20:14.145 --> 00:20:17.285
Um, and pretty amazing to see

518
00:20:17.285 --> 00:20:19.285
that happen so quickly.

519
00:20:19.545 --> 00:20:21.725
Is that the, the congratulations bell, Tim.

520
00:20:21.835 --> 00:20:23.445
It's my phone, but yeah. Okay.

521
00:20:24.185 --> 00:20:26.165
And it's really cool to see that happen

522
00:20:26.305 --> 00:20:27.685
so quickly for the new group.

523
00:20:27.985 --> 00:20:30.605
Um, which I mean, that was a, that was a big deal for them.

524
00:20:30.665 --> 00:20:33.685
So Good job Christian. Good job. 21 Carr.

525
00:20:34.585 --> 00:20:37.445
And that's really all that we need

526
00:20:37.445 --> 00:20:38.805
to talk about from the ECR side.

527
00:20:38.825 --> 00:20:40.285
We can now talk about everything else

528
00:20:40.315 --> 00:20:44.125
that happened at night, which let's just talk about.

529
00:20:44.955 --> 00:20:49.845
Finally, we had a banger of an indie car race in 2025.

530
00:20:50.275 --> 00:20:51.805
<v Speaker 1>Look, Detroit was an exciting race.</v>

531
00:20:51.825 --> 00:20:53.525
It was an entertaining race. Sorry,

532
00:20:53.615 --> 00:20:55.445
<v Speaker 3>Sorry,</v>
<v Speaker 1>But, but this was a banger,</v>

533
00:20:55.445 --> 00:20:56.485
but a classic was classic.

534
00:20:56.485 --> 00:20:59.365
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This was like, the tone was set

535
00:20:59.365 --> 00:21:01.645
with the pyro on the pace lapse.

536
00:21:01.745 --> 00:21:03.885
Oh my goodness. Which seems to get better every year.

537
00:21:04.025 --> 00:21:05.285
And by better I mean bigger,

538
00:21:05.425 --> 00:21:08.005
and by bigger I mean scarier and more dangerous. Um,

539
00:21:08.345 --> 00:21:11.445
<v Speaker 3>And, and by that hotter</v>
<v Speaker 1>Dude, like,</v>

540
00:21:11.585 --> 00:21:15.925
<v Speaker 3>Do we classify that as pyro or just just a gas line</v>

541
00:21:16.125 --> 00:21:17.125
<v Speaker 1>Breaking small munitions.</v>

542
00:21:17.125 --> 00:21:19.325
Yeah. Right. Like it's, it's, uh,

543
00:21:19.795 --> 00:21:22.165
<v Speaker 3>It's not really a firework, it's like a bomb.</v>

544
00:21:22.985 --> 00:21:25.635
<v Speaker 1>It is a bomb. It's, it's a small bomb.</v>

545
00:21:26.095 --> 00:21:27.675
Um, which I guess is pyro.

546
00:21:27.675 --> 00:21:30.275
Like, I don't know, we, so, you know, like the,

547
00:21:30.275 --> 00:21:31.475
the booth is up above the

548
00:21:31.475 --> 00:21:32.915
grandstands, like at start, finish, right?

549
00:21:32.915 --> 00:21:35.195
Mm-hmm . The grandstand, you know, that's,

550
00:21:35.195 --> 00:21:37.355
this is like a old school racetrack.

551
00:21:37.505 --> 00:21:40.155
Okay. It's not, it's not the most like newly constructed

552
00:21:40.165 --> 00:21:43.475
place in the world that pyro went off.

553
00:21:44.185 --> 00:21:47.195
It's not that the glass vibrated a little bit, it's

554
00:21:47.195 --> 00:21:50.755
that the entire grandstand swayed.

555
00:21:51.135 --> 00:21:53.355
And I'm not kidding, man. We're like 10 stories up

556
00:21:53.355 --> 00:21:54.355
or whatever in this thing.

557
00:21:54.455 --> 00:21:56.515
Uh, I don't  it was, I'm gonna,

558
00:21:56.575 --> 00:21:58.035
I'm gonna put in the request now

559
00:21:58.035 --> 00:22:01.595
for next year's pyro will be like, turned down 10%.

560
00:22:02.155 --> 00:22:04.075
I just Howard, uh, I don't need the, that's a,

561
00:22:04.395 --> 00:22:06.555
I don't need the boosts a falling off the back of the thing.

562
00:22:07.615 --> 00:22:08.835
Oh, guys, you weren't in it. Most Canadian

563
00:22:08.965 --> 00:22:10.675
<v Speaker 3>Thing you've ever said, you</v>
<v Speaker 1>Weren't in that</v>

564
00:22:10.765 --> 00:22:11.955
<v Speaker 3>Force, the grid until the green.</v>

565
00:22:12.615 --> 00:22:15.035
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's fine. Yeah, let's do that. Okay, that's fine.</v>

566
00:22:15.715 --> 00:22:16.835
Actually, I'm, I'm okay with that.

567
00:22:17.615 --> 00:22:20.435
<v Speaker 3>But pyro, pyro, I mean, this is, this is America, dude.</v>

568
00:22:20.535 --> 00:22:22.355
It needs to be bigger. Always.

569
00:22:23.055 --> 00:22:25.835
<v Speaker 1>Do we just aim it then like maybe away from the track?</v>

570
00:22:25.835 --> 00:22:27.275
Because if we felt it,

571
00:22:27.375 --> 00:22:29.715
the people at grand stands must have lost their eyebrows.

572
00:22:30.255 --> 00:22:32.315
<v Speaker 3>So McLaughlin talked about feeling the heat.</v>

573
00:22:32.385 --> 00:22:33.635
Were you able to feel that Alex?

574
00:22:34.305 --> 00:22:38.235
Yeah, but let me, this has been their kind of thing,

575
00:22:38.465 --> 00:22:41.595
like the Yeah, Bob Marino Automotive Group does an

576
00:22:41.595 --> 00:22:43.595
incredible job of the promotion of this race.

577
00:22:43.625 --> 00:22:45.915
They have since IndyCar went back there in

578
00:22:45.915 --> 00:22:47.355
2017, I feel like.

579
00:22:48.095 --> 00:22:52.995
Um, and the, the pyro and the fireworks

580
00:22:52.995 --> 00:22:54.995
and the three white salute has always been kind

581
00:22:54.995 --> 00:22:58.395
of their thing as a, as a, as a tribute to Indianapolis

582
00:22:58.395 --> 00:22:59.955
and a thank you to the fans that make the trip

583
00:22:59.975 --> 00:23:01.035
and, and all this sort of thing.

584
00:23:01.055 --> 00:23:03.755
And it's been a night race for a while off and on.

585
00:23:04.535 --> 00:23:08.395
And so from the first year it was always kind of a big deal

586
00:23:08.415 --> 00:23:10.155
and you could always feel it in the car,

587
00:23:10.815 --> 00:23:14.275
but like this year it actually was hot.

588
00:23:14.465 --> 00:23:17.475
Like it was a very strange situation

589
00:23:17.475 --> 00:23:19.435
because you're pretty insulated in the car

590
00:23:20.295 --> 00:23:22.955
and like, you're not,

591
00:23:23.025 --> 00:23:24.835
it's not blowing at you like it's just

592
00:23:24.845 --> 00:23:26.475
going vertically next to you.

593
00:23:26.735 --> 00:23:29.435
And it was like, it actually threw your suit.

594
00:23:29.895 --> 00:23:33.115
You felt it on your skin, which was, um, pretty,

595
00:23:33.115 --> 00:23:35.275
pretty crazy, but awesome.

596
00:23:35.275 --> 00:23:36.835
Pretty crazy at the same time. I loved it.

597
00:23:36.955 --> 00:23:39.435
I mean, it was, it was, we,

598
00:23:39.485 --> 00:23:41.955
we've had pretty sick parade laps this year.

599
00:23:42.195 --> 00:23:44.235
I mean, if you think about the Blackhawks at Indie

600
00:23:44.655 --> 00:23:47.085
and now like nine bomb going on

601
00:23:47.085 --> 00:23:48.325
and I do with regularity at Gateway.

602
00:23:49.105 --> 00:23:50.165
Um, pretty cool.

603
00:23:53.995 --> 00:23:55.285
<v Speaker 1>Then the race got going</v>

604
00:23:55.745 --> 00:23:57.405
and again,

605
00:23:57.485 --> 00:24:00.045
I mean we saw last year a big improvement in the quality

606
00:24:00.045 --> 00:24:01.085
of the racing at this place.

607
00:24:01.225 --> 00:24:05.445
And I, for one, put some credit on the Highline practice

608
00:24:05.505 --> 00:24:06.845
and I know we've talked about this,

609
00:24:06.845 --> 00:24:08.605
whether it's actually putting rubber down

610
00:24:08.605 --> 00:24:11.165
or just getting drivers comfortable. Yeah,

611
00:24:11.165 --> 00:24:12.165
<v Speaker 3>You're right.</v>

612
00:24:12.165 --> 00:24:13.405
Being up there extra 500 pounds

613
00:24:13.405 --> 00:24:15.005
of down force had nothing to do with it

614
00:24:17.155 --> 00:24:20.405
<v Speaker 1>Last year. Oh yeah.</v>

615
00:24:20.405 --> 00:24:22.445
<v Speaker 3>Because we run road course swings now instead</v>

616
00:24:22.445 --> 00:24:23.445
of the short oval kit .

617
00:24:24.995 --> 00:24:26.695
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so a lot the extra flap is on</v>

618
00:24:26.695 --> 00:24:28.335
there compared to before.

619
00:24:28.605 --> 00:24:29.605
Yeah,

620
00:24:29.905 --> 00:24:32.285
<v Speaker 3>That's down Horses we're a well research show.</v>

621
00:24:33.665 --> 00:24:35.045
<v Speaker 1>No, I know. It's a, I know it's a,</v>

622
00:24:35.165 --> 00:24:36.405
I know it's road course down for us,

623
00:24:36.425 --> 00:24:39.205
but I guess I forgot that we used to not run the flap there.

624
00:24:39.835 --> 00:24:41.925
Yeah. Um, regardless,

625
00:24:43.005 --> 00:24:45.445
I still think the Highline practice helps get drivers

626
00:24:45.445 --> 00:24:47.605
comfortable with the highline and makes them Sure.

627
00:24:47.605 --> 00:24:49.205
More willing to do it in the race. Mm-hmm .

628
00:24:49.345 --> 00:24:51.565
Um, but anyway, so the racing was good last year

629
00:24:51.825 --> 00:24:54.525
and it was right from the get go.

630
00:24:54.525 --> 00:24:56.645
Good. This year. Little Dave Lucas,

631
00:24:57.045 --> 00:24:59.285
I don't know if you probably haven't even seen this yet,

632
00:24:59.285 --> 00:25:00.365
Alex, but like Lil Dave,

633
00:25:00.365 --> 00:25:03.045
ma Lucas pulled a pretty neat fourth to first

634
00:25:03.625 --> 00:25:06.645
in lap one program, which was cool to watch.

635
00:25:07.225 --> 00:25:09.925
Um hmm. He, he, he put it all outta the table

636
00:25:10.065 --> 00:25:11.565
and was pretty cool.

637
00:25:12.145 --> 00:25:15.125
Uh, yeah, the first bit of the race was, was kind

638
00:25:15.125 --> 00:25:16.205
of just manic.

639
00:25:16.205 --> 00:25:17.845
Like there was tons of passing happening.

640
00:25:18.845 --> 00:25:21.365
Connor was just slicing his way through the field.

641
00:25:21.435 --> 00:25:24.325
Like Connor's run in that first stint was unbelievable.

642
00:25:24.465 --> 00:25:25.605
And we'll get back to him later.

643
00:25:26.385 --> 00:25:30.125
Uh, Christian right off the bat was having a good start.

644
00:25:30.705 --> 00:25:32.365
Uh, Kirkwood actually was one of the guys

645
00:25:32.365 --> 00:25:35.005
that was moving up a fair chunk in that first sort of stint,

646
00:25:35.005 --> 00:25:36.765
first half, I don't know.

647
00:25:38.145 --> 00:25:40.965
And then man, series of crazy things started happening.

648
00:25:41.045 --> 00:25:44.225
I don't know. I don't know which, which we start with.

649
00:25:44.225 --> 00:25:47.665
Well, okay, hold on, let's start with, so Devlin, uh,

650
00:25:47.665 --> 00:25:50.985
unfortunately found the wall like lap four caused the first

651
00:25:50.985 --> 00:25:53.505
yellow and that car went back to the garage

652
00:25:54.205 --> 00:25:57.505
as the car was coming back out onto the track though,

653
00:25:58.245 --> 00:26:02.545
we caught dev running back to his car, uh, in pit lane.

654
00:26:03.085 --> 00:26:07.265
And one of our very experienced top line camera guys was

655
00:26:07.535 --> 00:26:10.025
running after him, following him, kind of

656
00:26:10.645 --> 00:26:12.975
chasing this story in the most literal sense.

657
00:26:13.715 --> 00:26:17.615
And then Dev, I think almost overshot his pit box like

658
00:26:17.615 --> 00:26:18.815
running and stopped

659
00:26:18.955 --> 00:26:22.095
and Bama our camera guy, like just bowled straight into him

660
00:26:22.355 --> 00:26:24.775
and like, I dunno if he hit him or not, but like avoided

661
00:26:24.775 --> 00:26:26.375
and went down live on tv.

662
00:26:26.605 --> 00:26:29.455
Yeah. He is okay to see his head come into frame. Yeah. Yep.

663
00:26:30.405 --> 00:26:33.815
Bama is okay. Uh, he's a, he is an incredible human being

664
00:26:33.835 --> 00:26:35.335
and he's, he's a hell of a camera guy

665
00:26:35.555 --> 00:26:37.655
and uh, we're glad that he was fine and, and,

666
00:26:37.715 --> 00:26:39.935
and we're impressed with his ability to, to keep up

667
00:26:39.935 --> 00:26:41.855
and keep the shot going in the first place.

668
00:26:42.875 --> 00:26:46.345
But man, I think, I don't know, do we just skip right ahead

669
00:26:46.345 --> 00:26:49.385
to the, to the big yellow, do we start with Powers yellow?

670
00:26:49.825 --> 00:26:54.065
<v Speaker 3>I mean we've got 15 minutes left, so let's pick</v>

671
00:26:54.065 --> 00:26:55.385
and choose our storylines here.

672
00:26:55.895 --> 00:26:59.505
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So power running second in a really good spot,</v>

673
00:26:59.525 --> 00:27:03.065
having a great day, qualified on pole middle of three

674
00:27:03.065 --> 00:27:04.705
and four, just shoots up the track and,

675
00:27:04.765 --> 00:27:06.025
and gets into the fence.

676
00:27:06.885 --> 00:27:09.425
And it was from a right front going down,

677
00:27:09.425 --> 00:27:11.705
which is something we very, very,

678
00:27:11.855 --> 00:27:14.385
very rarely see in the IndyCar series.

679
00:27:14.965 --> 00:27:17.505
Was there any indication throughout the weekend

680
00:27:17.505 --> 00:27:20.305
that there was any concerns on the tire side, Alex?

681
00:27:20.765 --> 00:27:23.545
<v Speaker 3>No.</v>
<v Speaker 1>So do we have any thought</v>

682
00:27:23.545 --> 00:27:27.385
of whether this is debris versus maybe a particular setting

683
00:27:27.455 --> 00:27:28.585
that the team was running?

684
00:27:29.045 --> 00:27:31.585
Or is this just freaks outta circumstance?

685
00:27:32.185 --> 00:27:33.385
<v Speaker 3>I don't have any information.</v>

686
00:27:33.685 --> 00:27:36.185
All I have is historical evidence that would say

687
00:27:36.185 --> 00:27:38.985
that on short os pe cars have failed right

688
00:27:38.985 --> 00:27:40.065
front tires in the past.

689
00:27:40.885 --> 00:27:43.105
Um, it's been a while since that has happened.

690
00:27:43.445 --> 00:27:47.905
Um, but it, it could be, it could be a lot of things.

691
00:27:48.205 --> 00:27:49.585
Um, I take that back

692
00:27:50.055 --> 00:27:52.705
because during some ti well, it's kind of unfair,

693
00:27:53.405 --> 00:27:54.945
but during some tire tests, the tire

694
00:27:54.945 --> 00:27:56.025
<v Speaker 1>Tests,</v>
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.</v>

695
00:27:56.025 --> 00:27:57.345
That doesn't really count. So that doesn't really matter.

696
00:27:57.605 --> 00:28:00.425
So no, in an approved, uh,

697
00:28:00.815 --> 00:28:05.025
tire arrow track combo package, the only teams

698
00:28:05.025 --> 00:28:07.705
that have had right front failures, um, are Penske.

699
00:28:07.725 --> 00:28:09.105
So you would have to assume,

700
00:28:09.245 --> 00:28:10.585
and this is purely an assumption

701
00:28:10.855 --> 00:28:12.385
that it's something they're doing copy.

702
00:28:12.455 --> 00:28:14.625
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So bad break for him.</v>

703
00:28:14.985 --> 00:28:17.425
I mean, he's been the top, uh, Penske guy in points,

704
00:28:18.355 --> 00:28:19.745
which is crazy sort on

705
00:28:19.745 --> 00:28:21.745
<v Speaker 3>Poll because</v>
<v Speaker 1>It's Will, but just because of Yeah.</v>

706
00:28:21.745 --> 00:28:22.785
Where they've, where they've been

707
00:28:22.785 --> 00:28:23.945
all year and where they are in the points.

708
00:28:23.975 --> 00:28:26.785
Yeah. Started on poll, so the data come undone for him,

709
00:28:27.085 --> 00:28:28.625
you know, obviously felt bad for him.

710
00:28:29.615 --> 00:28:31.785
Then you kind of fast forward, uh,

711
00:28:32.165 --> 00:28:35.745
and Joseph was doing what Joseph does at Gateway

712
00:28:36.005 --> 00:28:37.465
and it just worked his way to the front.

713
00:28:37.615 --> 00:28:39.465
It's, it's really impressive. Like, it's

714
00:28:39.465 --> 00:28:41.305
<v Speaker 3>Funny 'cause his, his opening stint</v>

715
00:28:41.885 --> 00:28:44.585
or like the first 25 laps wasn't that good.

716
00:28:44.655 --> 00:28:49.265
Like I was, I was behind Colton who was right behind him

717
00:28:49.485 --> 00:28:51.025
and like he wasn't, I was like, oh,

718
00:28:51.235 --> 00:28:52.625
maybe he is beatable here.

719
00:28:53.245 --> 00:28:56.785
And then all of a sudden, like it got to lap 30 something

720
00:28:57.085 --> 00:28:59.305
and he just literally, it's like, he was like,

721
00:28:59.305 --> 00:29:00.505
okay, now I'm warmed up.

722
00:29:01.165 --> 00:29:03.505
My muscles are loose, I'm good to go.

723
00:29:03.505 --> 00:29:04.945
And he just, he just disappeared.

724
00:29:05.045 --> 00:29:06.505
He just started passing everyone

725
00:29:06.505 --> 00:29:08.265
and started going to the front and it was like, oh, okay,

726
00:29:08.265 --> 00:29:10.265
well cool. See you.

727
00:29:10.805 --> 00:29:12.105
<v Speaker 1>He was just binding his time</v>

728
00:29:12.105 --> 00:29:13.225
and like we heard it on the radio

729
00:29:13.705 --> 00:29:14.785
sled and balance in the car.

730
00:29:14.845 --> 00:29:16.225
So he was kind of waiting for the stop

731
00:29:16.225 --> 00:29:19.465
to get some winging it, but he was just very patient.

732
00:29:19.725 --> 00:29:22.345
He lost a couple spots, wasn't getting frustrated about it

733
00:29:22.345 --> 00:29:23.745
and just sort of working his way through it.

734
00:29:24.005 --> 00:29:25.105
It was impressive to, to kind

735
00:29:25.105 --> 00:29:26.585
of just watch the whole thing unfold.

736
00:29:27.405 --> 00:29:30.865
Uh, then he got his way to the front as he does, uh,

737
00:29:30.865 --> 00:29:32.505
between some passes on track,

738
00:29:32.505 --> 00:29:33.905
some pit cycle stuff, whatever.

739
00:29:34.685 --> 00:29:39.125
And then something happened right in front of you, which led

740
00:29:39.125 --> 00:29:40.205
to an interesting scenario.

741
00:29:40.395 --> 00:29:43.205
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Louie was, um,</v>

742
00:29:43.855 --> 00:29:45.565
Louie was very impressive actually.

743
00:29:45.905 --> 00:29:49.845
And uh, I was kind of in my own race at this point

744
00:29:49.995 --> 00:29:51.765
with Scott and Alex

745
00:29:52.825 --> 00:29:54.685
and we were kind of doing the fuel safe game.

746
00:29:55.025 --> 00:29:59.205
Um, and Louie came by all three of us like hauling ass

747
00:29:59.625 --> 00:30:00.965
and he was ripping Lane two

748
00:30:01.025 --> 00:30:02.645
and you know, he was making it work

749
00:30:02.745 --> 00:30:05.205
and he, you know, he, he was doing a great job

750
00:30:06.145 --> 00:30:10.325
and it's, it's always this, this debate you have

751
00:30:10.325 --> 00:30:12.925
with yourself because like, as much as, you know,

752
00:30:12.925 --> 00:30:14.245
like Lane Two's viable

753
00:30:14.465 --> 00:30:17.885
and Lane Two's working every lap that, you know,

754
00:30:18.715 --> 00:30:22.125
come upon it again, like there's that much more dust

755
00:30:22.185 --> 00:30:24.445
and that much more marbles that have gone up there

756
00:30:24.505 --> 00:30:28.005
and it's, it is something that the risk, you know,

757
00:30:28.795 --> 00:30:32.725
very insignificant but still increases lap after lap.

758
00:30:32.785 --> 00:30:37.325
And I think he, you know, just, it was one of those things

759
00:30:37.325 --> 00:30:39.885
where it was just a little bit too much at that time in,

760
00:30:39.885 --> 00:30:43.925
in the track condition and just got a hair, a hair high.

761
00:30:44.125 --> 00:30:45.125
'cause he had a little bit of a moment.

762
00:30:45.425 --> 00:30:49.285
And as soon as you get out of the, the good stuff, James,

763
00:30:49.565 --> 00:30:51.485
I mean, you know, you're, you're a passenger to the

764
00:30:51.485 --> 00:30:53.285
outside wall and you know, he,

765
00:30:53.345 --> 00:30:54.725
he didn't have a very hard hit.

766
00:30:55.385 --> 00:30:59.325
But as we know at 160 miles an hour, any hit on an oval is,

767
00:30:59.465 --> 00:31:00.485
is gonna break something.

768
00:31:00.665 --> 00:31:02.645
And as soon as you break a tow link, you kind

769
00:31:02.645 --> 00:31:03.885
of don't have control of the car.

770
00:31:04.385 --> 00:31:06.725
And so I kind of saw him up against the wall

771
00:31:06.725 --> 00:31:08.965
and he was trying to keep it against the wall from

772
00:31:08.965 --> 00:31:11.725
what I could see, but at some point, like just the inertia

773
00:31:11.725 --> 00:31:13.725
of the car and everything, it's gonna move off the wall.

774
00:31:13.725 --> 00:31:15.485
And I started seeing him come off

775
00:31:15.985 --> 00:31:17.885
and I had already kind of committed to the bottom.

776
00:31:18.745 --> 00:31:21.165
Um, and then Palolo was right behind me

777
00:31:22.065 --> 00:31:25.485
and Joseph at this point had a pretty big run on Paolo.

778
00:31:25.625 --> 00:31:28.085
And so Palolo went high, Joseph went to the bottom

779
00:31:28.305 --> 00:31:30.005
and I think he wouldn't have even seen

780
00:31:30.985 --> 00:31:33.965
Foster coming across the track and had nowhere to go.

781
00:31:34.155 --> 00:31:37.445
Huge impact, scary incident. Thank God. Both are okay.

782
00:31:38.175 --> 00:31:42.245
Super. Like listen, I, I don't care what you think

783
00:31:42.245 --> 00:31:44.445
of Joseph, I don't care what you think of Team Penske,

784
00:31:44.475 --> 00:31:46.525
like you have to feel for someone who,

785
00:31:47.225 --> 00:31:48.245
at a place like Gateway,

786
00:31:48.585 --> 00:31:50.005
he had worked his way up into the front.

787
00:31:50.025 --> 00:31:51.845
He was in a commanding position

788
00:31:52.655 --> 00:31:54.845
aside from something crazy happening, like

789
00:31:55.075 --> 00:31:57.525
what ultimately did it was his race to lose

790
00:31:58.145 --> 00:32:00.605
and to see it taken from someone like that, like that sucks.

791
00:32:00.605 --> 00:32:02.125
Like you don't wish that on anyone.

792
00:32:02.405 --> 00:32:03.765
'cause like it's, when it happens to you,

793
00:32:03.795 --> 00:32:05.525
it's a pretty horrible feeling and,

794
00:32:05.525 --> 00:32:07.765
<v Speaker 1>And especially just with how spectacular that</v>

795
00:32:07.875 --> 00:32:09.045
that incident was.

796
00:32:09.285 --> 00:32:12.725
I mean when, when you see Joseph's onboard

797
00:32:13.025 --> 00:32:17.885
and you see an indie car broadside perpendicular

798
00:32:18.065 --> 00:32:20.405
to the racing line on an oval,

799
00:32:20.505 --> 00:32:21.845
that's like worst case scenario.

800
00:32:21.955 --> 00:32:23.965
It's like the scariest stuff you could possibly imagine.

801
00:32:24.625 --> 00:32:26.005
And I feel for Louis,

802
00:32:26.005 --> 00:32:28.645
because again, completely out outta his control,

803
00:32:28.705 --> 00:32:31.645
the the right rear was broken and was just flopping around.

804
00:32:32.585 --> 00:32:36.045
And uh, and when it hooked him left, man, like, oh God,

805
00:32:36.045 --> 00:32:38.165
it's just, it's just like your heart goes in your throat

806
00:32:38.305 --> 00:32:39.805
and you watch the replay from,

807
00:32:39.875 --> 00:32:42.805
from Joseph's onboard in real time.

808
00:32:43.275 --> 00:32:44.845
It's just the gnarliest thing.

809
00:32:44.905 --> 00:32:47.845
And like the, the, I would love to know what the last thing

810
00:32:47.845 --> 00:32:49.045
that like went through his mind

811
00:32:49.065 --> 00:32:51.365
before he knew it was gonna be an impact

812
00:32:51.365 --> 00:32:54.085
because it's just gotta be like the worst feeling up

813
00:32:54.105 --> 00:32:55.445
and over, upside down.

814
00:32:56.185 --> 00:32:58.445
But, uh, a MR safety team was

815
00:32:58.445 --> 00:33:01.765
to the car within three seconds of it coming to a stop,

816
00:33:01.765 --> 00:33:03.565
which was pretty frigging impressive.

817
00:33:03.625 --> 00:33:07.845
And again, just highlights the incredible work that the men

818
00:33:07.845 --> 00:33:09.245
and women that are part of the safety program

819
00:33:09.905 --> 00:33:12.965
do on a weekly basis for us in the IndyCar, uh, world.

820
00:33:13.945 --> 00:33:16.245
And yeah, luckily both guys were, were okay.

821
00:33:16.665 --> 00:33:18.965
So credit to Theara, credit to the tracks, credit

822
00:33:18.965 --> 00:33:21.085
to IndyCar, everybody that's helped make these things

823
00:33:21.085 --> 00:33:23.365
as safe as they are, uh, to be able

824
00:33:23.365 --> 00:33:24.365
to walk away from a look like

825
00:33:24.365 --> 00:33:26.085
that is pretty, pretty significant.

826
00:33:26.905 --> 00:33:28.845
Uh, and then, you know, this, this is kind of

827
00:33:28.845 --> 00:33:31.645
where the race started going on its head a bit, you know, in

828
00:33:31.645 --> 00:33:33.405
that first yellow, there was those cars at the back

829
00:33:33.405 --> 00:33:36.085
that took, took the yellow to top off, right?

830
00:33:36.185 --> 00:33:39.165
And that's, that's, those guys always end up coming back in

831
00:33:39.165 --> 00:33:42.165
play later down, you know, the, the line as the,

832
00:33:42.185 --> 00:33:43.805
the stints sort of add up and,

833
00:33:43.865 --> 00:33:46.885
and those differences add up over the course of the race.

834
00:33:47.065 --> 00:33:48.445
But I think for me, the next kinda,

835
00:33:49.505 --> 00:33:50.885
and I'm definitely missing stuff

836
00:33:50.905 --> 00:33:52.965
and I apologize to everybody, but we're running outta time

837
00:33:53.325 --> 00:33:54.605
'cause just go back and watch the race.

838
00:33:54.605 --> 00:33:57.045
It was amazing. So the next one for me was,

839
00:33:57.105 --> 00:33:58.925
was Dixon getting himself up to the front,

840
00:33:59.415 --> 00:34:01.005
which was the most Dixon thing ever.

841
00:34:01.385 --> 00:34:02.605
Uh, Tim's

842
00:34:02.605 --> 00:34:04.525
<v Speaker 3>Texting me, I have to be honest, during the race, I have</v>

843
00:34:04.745 --> 00:34:07.565
to, I have to be honest, and again, this is no disrespect

844
00:34:07.565 --> 00:34:09.045
to Scott or the nine car

845
00:34:09.045 --> 00:34:11.205
or whatever, they weren't having a good night. Like

846
00:34:11.305 --> 00:34:13.165
<v Speaker 1>No, they can, I was not that fast.</v>

847
00:34:14.045 --> 00:34:15.045
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't having a good night,</v>

848
00:34:15.105 --> 00:34:18.325
but like I, I was pretty comfortable in front of him.

849
00:34:18.755 --> 00:34:21.685
Like again, me, polo and Dixon ran together most of the race

850
00:34:22.105 --> 00:34:23.205
and like he was one car.

851
00:34:23.285 --> 00:34:24.285
I felt like, you know, I,

852
00:34:24.405 --> 00:34:26.125
I can race you, I can keep you behind me.

853
00:34:26.125 --> 00:34:27.165
Like we're gonna battle this out

854
00:34:27.165 --> 00:34:28.765
for the top 10, the three of us, whatever.

855
00:34:28.765 --> 00:34:32.685
Right? And then sure enough

856
00:34:33.275 --> 00:34:34.645
with like 60 to go,

857
00:34:34.685 --> 00:34:36.405
I look up at the leaderboard and they're like, oh.

858
00:34:36.405 --> 00:34:38.405
They're like, oh yeah, the nine car has a lap on everyone.

859
00:34:38.465 --> 00:34:40.245
And I'm like, but,

860
00:34:40.785 --> 00:34:44.085
but well why ?

861
00:34:44.835 --> 00:34:46.405
Like, and

862
00:34:46.405 --> 00:34:48.285
<v Speaker 1>Then</v>
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, well obviously</v>

863
00:34:49.125 --> 00:34:51.645
<v Speaker 2>I was feeling very confident about my prediction</v>

864
00:34:51.645 --> 00:34:54.205
that Dixon was gonna pull it off when he was a lap up

865
00:34:54.205 --> 00:34:55.325
and got that free pit

866
00:34:56.835 --> 00:34:58.165
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I think it was even before</v>

867
00:34:58.165 --> 00:35:00.045
that you called it and then that happened. Yeah, no,

868
00:35:00.045 --> 00:35:01.045
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was saying.</v>

869
00:35:01.045 --> 00:35:02.165
I was feeling confident about my

870
00:35:02.165 --> 00:35:03.325
prediction when that happened.

871
00:35:04.265 --> 00:35:05.485
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.</v>

872
00:35:05.485 --> 00:35:06.525
Because you had called it a bit

873
00:35:06.525 --> 00:35:07.605
before that, then that happens

874
00:35:07.625 --> 00:35:12.245
and you were just like, ha ha, well Dixie does it again.

875
00:35:13.105 --> 00:35:14.645
And uh, incredible. Yeah.

876
00:35:14.745 --> 00:35:17.445
Didn't quite work out, but man, that's, that's the power

877
00:35:17.445 --> 00:35:19.325
of staying out late on a short oval.

878
00:35:19.545 --> 00:35:21.085
And when you're Scott Dixon

879
00:35:21.085 --> 00:35:23.325
and can save fuel like that, God damn it

880
00:35:23.325 --> 00:35:24.485
is an impressive thing to see.

881
00:35:26.025 --> 00:35:28.245
And so then we had, oh, hold on.

882
00:35:28.245 --> 00:35:30.805
We did, we gotta talk quickly about the battle again.

883
00:35:30.845 --> 00:35:33.005
I don't know what restart it's on 'cause we had so many

884
00:35:33.025 --> 00:35:34.405
and there were so many good battles,

885
00:35:34.705 --> 00:35:38.485
but Connor go into the lead and just the battle with him

886
00:35:38.485 --> 00:35:41.085
and Patto for like six laps or something

887
00:35:41.085 --> 00:35:43.285
after that restart was epic.

888
00:35:43.825 --> 00:35:45.165
So you had McLaughlin

889
00:35:45.425 --> 00:35:48.605
and Ma Lucas who both got three position penalties

890
00:35:49.105 --> 00:35:51.925
for improper lane usage in pit lane,

891
00:35:52.095 --> 00:35:53.485
which isn't one we see a lot.

892
00:35:54.265 --> 00:35:56.685
Um, it's not the same as unsafe

893
00:35:56.685 --> 00:35:58.045
for police obviously. Funny when I

894
00:35:58.045 --> 00:36:01.085
<v Speaker 3>Got that, when I got that penalty at uh, at Indy,</v>

895
00:36:01.445 --> 00:36:02.885
I got sent to the back at a restart.

896
00:36:02.985 --> 00:36:04.405
So three spots would've been nice.

897
00:36:05.635 --> 00:36:06.725
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Was that this year?</v>

898
00:36:07.885 --> 00:36:10.105
<v Speaker 3>No, this was 2020. I just hold a grudge.</v>

899
00:36:11.355 --> 00:36:13.345
<v Speaker 1>Okays, it's still</v>
<v Speaker 5>Rare for you. Yeah,</v>

900
00:36:13.695 --> 00:36:14.695
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>

901
00:36:14.695 --> 00:36:17.985
Um, anyway, so that's why those guys drop back,

902
00:36:17.995 --> 00:36:20.505
which brought Connor and, and Patto up a few spots.

903
00:36:20.505 --> 00:36:22.625
Obviously both guys doing a great job to be up there.

904
00:36:23.205 --> 00:36:26.145
Um, but dude, that, that battle was awesome

905
00:36:26.205 --> 00:36:28.065
and Connor, we talked about it last week.

906
00:36:28.065 --> 00:36:30.225
Something about Connor in this racetrack just,

907
00:36:30.855 --> 00:36:32.185
just jive man.

908
00:36:32.185 --> 00:36:34.825
Like he needs to drive into Road America tomorrow like this

909
00:36:34.825 --> 00:36:37.185
weekend and convince himself he's a gateway.

910
00:36:37.845 --> 00:36:39.695
There's just, there's, there's something mental there.

911
00:36:39.715 --> 00:36:42.695
He is just gotta pretend like he's in Illinois.

912
00:36:43.015 --> 00:36:45.015
I know it's like St. Louis but it's not, it's Cross river.

913
00:36:45.315 --> 00:36:48.055
So like he's gotta just pretend he's in Madison, Illinois

914
00:36:48.055 --> 00:36:52.775
or wherever that track is and he's going to a 1.25 mile oval

915
00:36:52.775 --> 00:36:55.135
and just go out there and do his thing because it's unreal.

916
00:36:55.555 --> 00:36:57.775
Uh, one of the most exciting battles of the night

917
00:36:57.995 --> 00:37:00.575
and then we're doing some pit cycles.

918
00:37:00.595 --> 00:37:02.335
The undercut was working for some guys,

919
00:37:02.395 --> 00:37:04.055
the Overcut was working for some guys

920
00:37:04.555 --> 00:37:07.935
and then ultimately, uh, Kirkwood who'd been like a sixth

921
00:37:07.995 --> 00:37:10.375
to eighth place car it looked like most of the night,

922
00:37:11.115 --> 00:37:13.735
you know, benefits from guys like power going out,

923
00:37:13.735 --> 00:37:17.135
Joseph going out McLaughlin having his issues certainly,

924
00:37:17.755 --> 00:37:19.775
but was having a straight up race with Mel Lucas

925
00:37:19.795 --> 00:37:21.175
who was the next be like,

926
00:37:21.175 --> 00:37:23.615
he was probably the second best car

927
00:37:23.785 --> 00:37:27.575
after uh, um, new Garden

928
00:37:27.575 --> 00:37:31.215
before he went out, got him on the pit cycle

929
00:37:31.435 --> 00:37:34.135
and as he came out on track, Dave tried

930
00:37:34.135 --> 00:37:35.615
to go on the high side of three and four.

931
00:37:36.865 --> 00:37:39.955
Kyle held his ground, maybe got a bit wide, pushed him up

932
00:37:40.055 --> 00:37:43.275
and, and uh, Lucas brushed the wall caused a yellow

933
00:37:43.695 --> 00:37:46.195
and that kind of set up the, uh, the dash to the end.

934
00:37:46.255 --> 00:37:49.315
But I gotta be honest, man, coming in here, you know,

935
00:37:49.415 --> 00:37:50.595
we had wait on,

936
00:37:50.775 --> 00:37:53.835
before I get to that quick touch back on Christian who

937
00:37:54.375 --> 00:37:57.115
as you say, started near the back, drove up to the front,

938
00:37:57.575 --> 00:38:02.315
got that penalty for the having to pit under close pit, went

939
00:38:02.315 --> 00:38:04.075
to the back fairly late in the race

940
00:38:04.975 --> 00:38:06.835
and just absolutely motored his way

941
00:38:06.835 --> 00:38:08.515
by almost the entire field.

942
00:38:08.925 --> 00:38:10.915
Seven we, we counted 71 passes.

943
00:38:11.065 --> 00:38:14.515
Next highest car was 38, like genuine on track passes.

944
00:38:14.975 --> 00:38:16.275
Un unreal drive from him.

945
00:38:16.895 --> 00:38:18.655
Um, and,

946
00:38:18.675 --> 00:38:20.775
and yeah, it came down to the shootout between, uh,

947
00:38:20.805 --> 00:38:24.075
between Kirkwood, um, and

948
00:38:24.685 --> 00:38:25.755
<v Speaker 5>Patto there at the end, right?</v>

949
00:38:25.965 --> 00:38:28.115
<v Speaker 1>Patto? Yeah, sorry, spacing there. Um,</v>

950
00:38:29.455 --> 00:38:30.795
<v Speaker 5>At least one of us pays attention.</v>

951
00:38:31.815 --> 00:38:36.585
<v Speaker 1>So on a day where Chevy qualified top five, top six</v>

952
00:38:37.445 --> 00:38:39.905
led, no Armstrong wasn't fifth, was he?

953
00:38:40.405 --> 00:38:43.105
No, Joseph was fifth. Mm-hmm . Top five. Hmm.

954
00:38:43.105 --> 00:38:45.145
They qualified top five, uh,

955
00:38:45.645 --> 00:38:47.825
led almost the entire race you have.

956
00:38:48.405 --> 00:38:50.145
So first of all, it just looked like it was gonna be a Chevy

957
00:38:50.165 --> 00:38:51.425
day all weekend along.

958
00:38:51.425 --> 00:38:52.785
It looked like it was gonna be a Chevy day.

959
00:38:53.885 --> 00:38:55.665
Hondas will have won all the races up to this point,

960
00:38:56.515 --> 00:38:59.615
two drivers have won the first seven races up to this point.

961
00:39:00.435 --> 00:39:02.225
And of those two drivers,

962
00:39:02.685 --> 00:39:04.625
Kyle's never had a podium on an oval

963
00:39:05.565 --> 00:39:08.625
and Palo won his first oval last time out.

964
00:39:08.725 --> 00:39:10.225
So like not a specialist.

965
00:39:10.255 --> 00:39:12.985
Competitive always, but not a specialist by any stretch.

966
00:39:14.625 --> 00:39:15.785
I would've put a significant amount

967
00:39:15.785 --> 00:39:17.585
of money on having our third winner of the season.

968
00:39:18.245 --> 00:39:21.865
But lo and behold, 27 crew hold it out.

969
00:39:21.915 --> 00:39:22.985
Brian heard his strategy.

970
00:39:23.845 --> 00:39:27.945
Uh, Kyle Kirkwood driving Jeremy Mill slash Dave Siefert

971
00:39:28.425 --> 00:39:30.825
engineering because Jeremy Mills

972
00:39:30.825 --> 00:39:32.025
the normal engineer for there.

973
00:39:32.025 --> 00:39:34.785
Shout out Jeremy, he's at home resting, um,

974
00:39:35.055 --> 00:39:36.665
nursing a little bit of an injury

975
00:39:36.925 --> 00:39:38.505
but still dialed into the weekend.

976
00:39:38.565 --> 00:39:41.105
He was plugged in, he was on the radios, he was whatever.

977
00:39:41.105 --> 00:39:42.425
He was on the intercom, he was part

978
00:39:42.425 --> 00:39:45.265
of the show just from a distance, but they did it man.

979
00:39:45.265 --> 00:39:48.305
They executed and got Kyle's first win on an oval,

980
00:39:48.575 --> 00:39:50.865
have maintained eight races, man,

981
00:39:51.555 --> 00:39:54.345
eight races, two people have won. It's

982
00:39:54.345 --> 00:39:55.345
<v Speaker 2>Crazy. Has that happened</v>

983
00:39:55.345 --> 00:39:56.345
<v Speaker 1>Before on?</v>

984
00:39:56.345 --> 00:39:58.145
Not since like 1980 or 19.

985
00:39:58.285 --> 00:40:01.425
And, and I think if we do one more, it's like 1964,

986
00:40:01.645 --> 00:40:02.945
but like I remember one year,

987
00:40:02.945 --> 00:40:06.785
2017 maybe we had seven winners in the first eight races.

988
00:40:06.945 --> 00:40:09.465
<v Speaker 2>I say this as respectfully as possible to both, uh,</v>

989
00:40:09.505 --> 00:40:11.865
Kirkwood and plo. I hope we don't have it again.

990
00:40:12.335 --> 00:40:13.625
<v Speaker 1>Just don't show up.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah,</v>

991
00:40:13.775 --> 00:40:15.025
just don't even come to America.

992
00:40:15.695 --> 00:40:18.065
<v Speaker 1>Give us a break. But like from the championship</v>

993
00:40:18.065 --> 00:40:19.505
standpoint, it's interesting because, okay,

994
00:40:19.505 --> 00:40:20.665
so yeah, so Kirkwood's

995
00:40:20.925 --> 00:40:22.865
<v Speaker 2>Non second,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Well, I say Matt Pros at Kirkwood,</v>

996
00:40:23.135 --> 00:40:25.425
Matt Prospa to, uh, Christian,

997
00:40:25.835 --> 00:40:27.265
great days for all those guys.

998
00:40:27.265 --> 00:40:30.265
Honorable mentioned vk got another top 10 bang on.

999
00:40:30.265 --> 00:40:31.785
Well done buddy. Uh,

1000
00:40:32.545 --> 00:40:35.345
Connor on another great race at Gateway, uh,

1001
00:40:35.455 --> 00:40:39.145
Alex on salvaging at 11th with a 26th place car.

1002
00:40:39.885 --> 00:40:41.745
You know, there's, there was some guys

1003
00:40:41.745 --> 00:40:43.505
with some, some good drives there. Santino

1004
00:40:43.565 --> 00:40:44.565
<v Speaker 3>Top five.</v>

1005
00:40:44.565 --> 00:40:46.345
<v Speaker 1>Santino top five Santino</v>
<v Speaker 2>Had a good</v>

1006
00:40:46.355 --> 00:40:47.355
<v Speaker 1>Drive.</v>

1007
00:40:47.355 --> 00:40:48.705
Another which again, like he'd had kind of a rough weekend.

1008
00:40:48.705 --> 00:40:50.305
This is a place he normally excels.

1009
00:40:50.305 --> 00:40:51.785
We were expecting it all weekend long

1010
00:40:51.885 --> 00:40:53.825
and it wasn't there when Lucas was qualified up

1011
00:40:53.825 --> 00:40:55.025
up there. But then in the race, I mean, I mean

1012
00:40:55.025 --> 00:40:56.785
<v Speaker 3>Schwartzman Schwartzman, yeah,</v>

1013
00:40:56.875 --> 00:40:58.425
<v Speaker 1>10th dude Cal iot almost won.</v>

1014
00:41:00.295 --> 00:41:02.105
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, yeah, I'm kidding.</v>

1015
00:41:02.365 --> 00:41:04.385
Max chilling almost won the 500. I mean whatever.

1016
00:41:04.385 --> 00:41:05.585
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying.</v>

1017
00:41:06.045 --> 00:41:08.585
Um, but so, you know, we have this championship

1018
00:41:08.585 --> 00:41:10.465
where Polo's won so many races off the start

1019
00:41:10.465 --> 00:41:11.625
and he's kind of running away with it,

1020
00:41:11.645 --> 00:41:14.185
but then he has a couple races that don't go his way.

1021
00:41:14.185 --> 00:41:16.345
Detroit not his fault here, you know, finished.

1022
00:41:16.675 --> 00:41:18.665
Where did Pian finish? Eighth. Eighth, yeah.

1023
00:41:18.765 --> 00:41:21.865
So again, still eight, which is like all you need

1024
00:41:22.065 --> 00:41:24.705
to finish on like on average over a season to be a champion.

1025
00:41:24.725 --> 00:41:27.265
So if that's his bad day, everyone's, it's kind of screwed.

1026
00:41:28.005 --> 00:41:30.185
But what's good for the championship is second and third

1027
00:41:30.645 --> 00:41:33.365
or Kyle and Patto, they keep scoring well, right?

1028
00:41:33.395 --> 00:41:35.365
Like those guys finish first and second here.

1029
00:41:35.795 --> 00:41:36.965
Kyle won in Detroit.

1030
00:41:37.185 --> 00:41:40.845
So if you don't have the points penalty for Kyle in the 500,

1031
00:41:41.185 --> 00:41:44.285
you know, this is a much closer battle and uh,

1032
00:41:44.505 --> 00:41:45.845
and there's still a lot of racing to go.

1033
00:41:45.985 --> 00:41:49.045
So it is not by any stretch over, uh, it's,

1034
00:41:49.045 --> 00:41:50.205
it was an exciting race

1035
00:41:51.105 --> 00:41:53.125
and now we get to go to Road America.

1036
00:41:54.025 --> 00:41:57.005
So I, I mean I think we've talked about this

1037
00:41:57.845 --> 00:41:59.685
probably your favorite road course in the country. Oh

1038
00:41:59.685 --> 00:42:02.245
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. I mean, walk-ins there, I mean,</v>

1039
00:42:02.245 --> 00:42:05.485
<v Speaker 1>Just below Barbara</v>
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, but oh Lord, uh,</v>

1040
00:42:05.545 --> 00:42:07.565
no Road America Walk-ins Laguna.

1041
00:42:07.565 --> 00:42:09.125
Those are, those are my three favorites.

1042
00:42:09.145 --> 00:42:11.645
So, um, I'm, I'm pumped to go there.

1043
00:42:11.955 --> 00:42:14.885
It's, it's just, it's a cool weekend, man.

1044
00:42:15.035 --> 00:42:18.325
Like the, the campsites are always completely sold out.

1045
00:42:18.585 --> 00:42:20.485
Um, you're racing through a forest,

1046
00:42:20.705 --> 00:42:23.965
it feels like usually it's like crisp and cool.

1047
00:42:24.075 --> 00:42:27.925
It's gonna be hot as, uh, this weekend, but that's okay.

1048
00:42:28.905 --> 00:42:32.485
Um, and so yeah, I just, I think it's, it's, it's one

1049
00:42:32.485 --> 00:42:34.525
of those, I think we have seen the perfect,

1050
00:42:35.425 --> 00:42:36.565
we have seen the epitome

1051
00:42:36.565 --> 00:42:38.525
of IndyCar racing over the past month.

1052
00:42:39.305 --> 00:42:44.285
You have a glass smooth super Speedway in Indianapolis, a

1053
00:42:45.205 --> 00:42:49.405
barbarically bumpy street course in Detroit, a

1054
00:42:50.295 --> 00:42:52.365
short oval at night at Gateway

1055
00:42:52.435 --> 00:42:54.005
<v Speaker 2>That we nap palm before it starts.</v>

1056
00:42:54.985 --> 00:42:57.645
<v Speaker 3>And then, um, like one of the vintage,</v>

1057
00:42:58.475 --> 00:43:02.485
like the longest road course vintage road course in America,

1058
00:43:03.225 --> 00:43:04.485
um, coming up next.

1059
00:43:04.865 --> 00:43:07.365
And so it's, it's pretty cool this stretch that we're on,

1060
00:43:07.705 --> 00:43:09.245
um, for, for IndyCar and,

1061
00:43:09.245 --> 00:43:13.235
and kind of just what, what, what is the makeup

1062
00:43:13.495 --> 00:43:14.875
and DNA of our championship.

1063
00:43:15.065 --> 00:43:16.275
<v Speaker 1>It's a great way of putting it.</v>

1064
00:43:16.275 --> 00:43:17.715
This is a, this is a fun little stretch

1065
00:43:17.715 --> 00:43:18.875
for that exact thing.

1066
00:43:19.335 --> 00:43:22.235
And you know, we had one guy win two of those races,

1067
00:43:22.335 --> 00:43:24.355
the other guy win the other two of those races, .

1068
00:43:25.055 --> 00:43:27.715
So we've got, uh, it'd be interesting

1069
00:43:27.715 --> 00:43:29.035
to see who comes out on top there. Maybe

1070
00:43:29.095 --> 00:43:32.515
<v Speaker 3>One of us should all step up and, you know, beat them like</v>

1071
00:43:32.615 --> 00:43:34.235
<v Speaker 1>You guys sh should also try doing</v>

1072
00:43:34.235 --> 00:43:35.235
<v Speaker 2>It.</v>

1073
00:43:35.235 --> 00:43:36.115
Do you mean like in the race or like Tanya Hardy.

1074
00:43:36.255 --> 00:43:38.515
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Oh my God. Like in the</v>

1075
00:43:38.515 --> 00:43:39.515
<v Speaker 2>Knee.</v>

1076
00:43:39.515 --> 00:43:39.995
Didn't bro hard asks Darn As

1077
00:43:40.055 --> 00:43:41.055
<v Speaker 1>Too soon.</v>

1078
00:43:41.095 --> 00:43:43.795
Uh, yeah, I mean, Alex, why don't you just like, he

1079
00:43:43.795 --> 00:43:46.315
<v Speaker 2>Didn't say he wasn't gonna do it. I won that. Noted .</v>

1080
00:43:47.285 --> 00:43:50.155
<v Speaker 1>Don't, don't you just wish you could take like some</v>

1081
00:43:50.155 --> 00:43:54.515
of the 29 seconds that you won this race by back in like 18

1082
00:43:54.615 --> 00:43:55.875
and just a apply it

1083
00:43:55.895 --> 00:43:57.955
to like a lead maybe in a different year.

1084
00:43:58.155 --> 00:44:00.355
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was 19 first of all, but whatever.</v>

1085
00:44:01.085 --> 00:44:03.475
<v Speaker 1>Can't keep track. All you.</v>
<v Speaker 3>He's, he's prickly today.</v>

1086
00:44:03.475 --> 00:44:04.795
James, why don't I, I'll just win

1087
00:44:04.815 --> 00:44:06.515
by 38. How about that? Okay.

1088
00:44:06.705 --> 00:44:08.715
<v Speaker 1>Challenge accepted. We'll see, that'd</v>

1089
00:44:08.715 --> 00:44:09.715
<v Speaker 3>Be great.</v>

1090
00:44:09.795 --> 00:44:11.035
Honestly, a third, if Kyle

1091
00:44:11.055 --> 00:44:12.915
and Pallo win would feel like a win. .

1092
00:44:13.745 --> 00:44:15.475
<v Speaker 1>It's first in class,</v>
<v Speaker 3>First and second, like,</v>

1093
00:44:15.665 --> 00:44:18.035
yeah,
<v Speaker 1>, uh, what's the name of that</v>

1094
00:44:18.595 --> 00:44:19.795
restaurant in North America?

1095
00:44:19.915 --> 00:44:21.625
That's so good. I always

1096
00:44:21.625 --> 00:44:22.265
<v Speaker 3>Forget. I'm</v>

1097
00:44:22.265 --> 00:44:24.105
<v Speaker 1>Not</v>
<v Speaker 3>Something telling you on the air. Yeah,</v>

1098
00:44:24.105 --> 00:44:25.225
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't wanna say it so</v>

1099
00:44:25.225 --> 00:44:26.865
that I'll bleep it. Okay, I'll bleep it. Okay.

1100
00:44:26.865 --> 00:44:29.265
<v Speaker 3>It's &lt;inaudible&gt;. No.</v>
<v Speaker 1>What is it?</v>

1101
00:44:30.085 --> 00:44:32.485
<v Speaker 3>Yes.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Why are you asking me if you know what it is?</v>

1102
00:44:32.985 --> 00:44:35.725
Oh my God. I just, yes, that's what it is. Yes.

1103
00:44:35.725 --> 00:44:37.685
I've been wracking my brain trying to remember that.

1104
00:44:37.685 --> 00:44:38.805
Yeah, definitely bleep that out.

1105
00:44:38.945 --> 00:44:43.645
Um, well, uh, yeah, that's it. I think. Good chat.

1106
00:44:44.065 --> 00:44:46.765
Uh, if you are listening to this on the date is, uh,

1107
00:44:47.185 --> 00:44:50.565
coming out and you are on your way

1108
00:44:50.625 --> 00:44:53.525
or already at Road America, remember

1109
00:44:53.525 --> 00:44:57.245
that Thursday night at Kins there's a charity, uh,

1110
00:44:57.615 --> 00:45:00.645
bartending competition, which me

1111
00:45:00.645 --> 00:45:03.085
and my Fox Sports colleagues will

1112
00:45:03.085 --> 00:45:04.205
be participating in as well.

1113
00:45:04.205 --> 00:45:06.525
A bunch of drivers. So by Kins

1114
00:45:06.525 --> 00:45:07.525
<v Speaker 2>Sure.</v>

1115
00:45:07.525 --> 00:45:07.925
Last year during that, didn't you?

1116
00:45:08.065 --> 00:45:09.085
<v Speaker 1>It was a couple years ago. Was</v>

1117
00:45:09.085 --> 00:45:10.085
<v Speaker 2>That two years</v>
<v Speaker 1>Ago?</v>

1118
00:45:10.085 --> 00:45:12.685
Yeah. Is that gonna happen again? It will not.

1119
00:45:12.915 --> 00:45:16.885
It's a great, uh, it's a great event for a great cause.

1120
00:45:17.105 --> 00:45:19.125
So make sure you swing by that.

1121
00:45:20.265 --> 00:45:22.205
And I think that's all I got, Tim.

1122
00:45:22.325 --> 00:45:23.965
I don't know, what am I missing? See

1123
00:45:23.965 --> 00:45:24.965
<v Speaker 2>You guys next week.</v>

1124
00:45:24.965 --> 00:45:27.365
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna be there?</v>
<v Speaker 2>No.</v>

1125
00:45:28.265 --> 00:45:30.285
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you made it sound like you know you</v>

1126
00:45:30.285 --> 00:45:31.285
<v Speaker 2>Were coming.</v>

1127
00:45:31.285 --> 00:45:31.765
No, I meant like to you,

1128
00:45:32.105 --> 00:45:34.005
you were missing saying to the viewers.

1129
00:45:34.705 --> 00:45:36.085
Oh, that. We'll see you next week.

1130
00:45:36.705 --> 00:45:38.125
<v Speaker 1>Got it. See you guys next week.</v>

1131
00:45:39.515 --> 00:45:40.805
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1132
00:45:40.805 --> 00:45:42.325
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1133
00:45:42.325 --> 00:45:44.805
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1134
00:45:45.265 --> 00:45:46.445
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1135
00:45:46.465 --> 00:45:48.685
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00:45:58.365 --> 00:45:59.645
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