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This is, is off track.
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Well guys, this is a very, uh, off track version
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of Off Track mainly
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because Tim has just spent the last 10 minutes of our
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recording window talking about things as if he's a little,
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like, it was like six minutes.
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Six minutes. It was too, it was too many minutes, Tim.
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It was too many minutes. Okay.
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But you know whose fault it is?
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It's Will Buxton's Fault
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because he is a delight to talk to. He is just, you
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Welcome to my fake office.
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That is kind of super,
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Like when I first logged on, I was like, oh,
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nice room Will, is that in the, is that in the new place?
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And I'm like, then I saw the outline of you shifting.
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I'm like, oh no. Okay. Got it.
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So it's a, it is a, as I said, it's,
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you'll notice it's Thursday
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and yet Will's here and you're like, oh.
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But we do guests on Tuesdays. Will's not a guest.
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Will is a guest host this week. I'm a Alex host this week.
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Yes, Alex is, is unavailable.
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And we decided to bring in Willie B
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and we're just gonna like, do the exactly
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what we would do if Alex was here,
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which is talk complete nonsense about Bull. And, uh,
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I also have a baby son that I can bring in,
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uh, at any random moment.
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True. So true. You
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Know, that's a good point.
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Good times. How's good times?
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How's, how's doubting 2.0? Having
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Two little ones is tough.
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lot. I guess it's 3.0 technically. Yeah, it's
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3.0.
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Um, but it's, it's two, two little ones at once is Yeah.
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It's, it's a lot. But it's great. It's really, really fun.
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Um, it's good And it means, obviously, you know,
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not getting a lot of sleep, which comes Sunday
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is, is good anyway.
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'cause I'm gonna be awake
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all night
Celebrating, uh,
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Celebr.
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Oh, you mean you're gonna stay up to make sure you see
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Cadillac's livery unveil during the super. Yes.
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That's why I'll be watching the Super Bowl.
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That's not to watch, not to watch the Seahawks continue.
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What could go down as a record breaking,
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record making season?
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Why is it record making? I haven't
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been paying attention to football
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Just statistically, like one
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of the all time great seasons.
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Do I know What's hilarious is I haven't been paying
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attention to football yet.
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I won our fantasy football fox thing this year. Do you
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Know what's, what's great for me as well is I had no idea
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how to play fantasy football
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and was bottom of the league for the entire season was,
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you know, bottom of the power
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rankings all the way through the season.
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Finish seventh, no idea how.
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Still don't understand it. That's the joy of football.
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Nobody gets it. No one understands. But what a
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Crazy, what a crazy football season.
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You know, like sure.
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No one could have predicted the
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way that this one turned out.
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I loved the fact that it was so random every single week.
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The pre, pretty much every week at least one team
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that you expected would have a walkover got demolished.
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And I loved that. And it was a great
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Season.
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I never expected the Hoosiers
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to win the College Bowl. So, you know,
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It's been amazing.
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Same
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Yeah. So remind,
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remind me why, I know you've told me the story.
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Remind me why Seahawks?
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Why are you, uh, like, 'cause this is not a bandwagon thing.
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I know that you've actually been cheering
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for the Seahawks for a long time.
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My, as you drink, as you drink your cough medicine straight
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out of the bottle, once again, .
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Let's go.
Uh, this is the story. We'll get to still on
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It.
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Um, so my aunt, uh, back in the 1970s way
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before I was born, moved to America.
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She immigrated to the States way
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Before
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A few years. Um, couple days. Few years. Uh, shut up.
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And um, and she lived, she lived up in Seattle?
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No, she immigrated to Seattle.
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So every year from birth to the age of 16, every birthday
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and Christmas I was sent Seahawks merch.
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So I've been a Seahawks fan for 44, 45 years. Like
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There you go.
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Yeah. Pretty great. Well, I'm, and
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and what's lovely is I've been a Seahawks fan
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and social media is wonderful
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and Jim Zo, Jim Zorn, uh, the legend
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that is Seahawks legend, Jim Zorn.
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Um, his daughters were massive F1 fans.
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Uh, and they've come over and started watching IndyCar.
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'cause 'cause we're doing IndyCar now.
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Thank you. By the way.
Jim bless him,
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has sent me signed shirt.
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Oh, that signed Jersey. Absolutely amazing. Um, very cool.
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Original quarterback for the Seahawks.
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There we go. Thank you. Yes, James, James knew that.
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James knew that. Totally. I was, I was wondering if Tim knew
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that Tim's not a big sports ball guy, so
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Well he's coming to something Oh yeah, definitely.
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That know more about sports ball
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then you know more about sports ball.
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I, I have to . I love you. Just disappear outta the video.
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Sorry. Yes. I, um, I was so yeah, we gotta tell everybody ,
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everybody, we were at Media day,
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so we got to see each other.
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We've seen each other a couple times the last few weeks.
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'cause we were in LA for the Fox seminar
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and then, uh, we were at Media Day last week, whatever
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that was, two weeks, whatever it was.
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And, um, and so, so Will was feeling a bit under the weather
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and he had like a bottle of DayQuil
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or something sitting on the, on the table in front of us.
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And like, I kind
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of noticed he just took like a
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quick swig right from the bottle.
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I'm like, yeah, fine, whatever, who has a spoon?
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But then as the day went on, I looked
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and the bottle was like, had one eighth left,
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like the bottle was nearly empty.
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And I'm like, oh my God.
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Will, what are you, you, you're not supposed to just,
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you're not supposed to drink the whole thing.
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You're just supposed to take like a Yeah.
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A teaspoon every couple hours.
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Apparently it's bad for your liver .
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I don't, I don't know. But you're
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Just necking this thing like every hour,
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like every hour. Take a couple
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Sweetss
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I've had a cough for like five weeks now.
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Apparently there's like terrible man flu
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going around the UK at the moment.
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And I've had this cough
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and I'm trying to get rid, I can't get rid of it.
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And I didn't know what passes
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for cough medicine out in America.
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So I just had DayQuil, which I was just using
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to lubricate my throat and uh, and kill my liver apparently.
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Mm. And, um, yeah, so good times. Good times.
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Hopefully we'll make it to some pee
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because, you know, either my throat will be okay
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and my liver won't have packed in
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and it, it'll be, it'll be good.
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Thanks for turning up, uh, and, uh,
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and being so present on Media Days, Hinch,
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it was great being in your town
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and seeing literally nothing of you for the
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Entire week.
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Well, dude, that is fair. That is fair.
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I, again, you know, I'm, what's happening though?
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I, I'm in the middle of a big move
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and that's occupying all of my free time.
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Do you moved yet? No, no.
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I mean, you, you should recognize this background.
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I'm still in the same place. Um, yeah, but they're
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Used to be diff you used to be different stuff
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behind you. Have you shifted
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That?
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Well, because I, I staged it. I staged it.
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It was too crowded before I was told.
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So I packed up most of the stuff
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and just had it, I had Becky tastefully stage it,
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this the real art to it. There
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Is, but this is the, this is the fun thing about our off
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season was I'd had an offer accepted on a house
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when we were in Nashville for the last race of the year.
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Right. So I'm thinking, great,
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I'm gonna be moved house by Christmas.
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It's all good, you know, prepped family in Baby Born,
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it's gonna be, you know, great.
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Um, ready for start. And that's,
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And at the same time, I had zero interest in moving.
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You were literally looking,
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I believe your exact phrase was something along the lines
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of, dude, I dunno how you do it.
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Like, I'm so glad I'm in a place that I like
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and I'm not even considering moving at any
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point in the near future.
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Here we are about to start the new season.
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Hinch has sold his house, moved his house,
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started renovations on the new house.
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And I still haven't moved into the,
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I still haven't officially bought the house
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that I'm supposed to have moved into by now. Like
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That's the difference between the American
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and the British housing market.
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Yeah. It's so dumb. Yeah. Yeah.
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So dumb. I do, I do feel bad for you.
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That's, I don't know how this is and like,
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'cause I remember Laura Winter was going
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through some of the same stuff Yeah.
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Selling her place after her Lee bought a place. And like if
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We are in, if we are in by the 500, it'll be a miracle.
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What? Yeah, .
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Yeah. Yeah. It's that bad. Like it's, that's criminal.
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It's just a mess. It's a total mess.
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Anyway, um, what, how did, so Alex
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and I talked a lot about Media Day from, you know,
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the driver's side and,
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and I talked a little bit about it from our side, just,
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you know, it was nice getting a chance to,
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to talk to everybody, right?
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Just yeah. For us to sit there
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with each driver for a couple minutes.
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What were your sort of big takeaways from Media Day?
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Obviously, you know, Paolo serene
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and just super confident.
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I think the difference between last year
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and this year was a lot of people came in last year
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with quite a lot kind of bravado
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and cockiness of like, yeah, Alex is beatable.
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And this year those same people came in
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with a, like, it's gonna be tough,
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but
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But I think if things go our way then
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we, then, then we can do it.
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I think, I think the biggest one for me, the, the,
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the real surprise for me were the, were the guys who came in
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really kind of swinging their, and by that I mean like
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RAs, are we naming names?
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Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah. RAs
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Rasmuson and Rossi to a degree.
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Like, yeah, ECR think they found something like,
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I don't know if it's a silver bullet.
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I don't know if a silver bullet exists with a car
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of this age, but they think they found something
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because Rossi was very, if you,
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the way in which a driver sits on
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that very uncomfortable chair that we had, I
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Thought was that we intentionally put in front of them,
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Like, is really quite telling
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because if they're, they're kind of straight up
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and you know, like they're at a job interview
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and they're taking it very seriously,
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even though it's supposed to be an
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off the record conversation.
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You know, there's kind of that there's almost an element
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of a protection there and they're taking it quite seriously.
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The two guys who were just like slumped back in the chair,
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you know, kind of like feed up on the desk.
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Rossie and Rasmussen, particularly Rasmussen.
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And, and, and Christian was almost like confident
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to the point of cocky.
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Yeah. We were like,
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This is either gonna be great
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or it's gonna blow up in their face.
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Um, so that was, that was really interesting.
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I thought, I thought willpower was by far
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and away the most interesting, uh, individual just
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to observe his mindset coming into the year.
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Because anyone who thinks that there isn't an element
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of wanting to stick it to Roger
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and Team Penske, they're dreaming.
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Like there is such high motivation there for him.
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The 2026 Willpower revenge tour is in full force
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and it's going to be epic, dude,
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It's
Going to be so good.
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It's, it's going to be amazing. Um, do you know,
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Do you know what I found interesting too?
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'cause sorry, will just on the power subject was
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he came up in a lot of conversations with other drivers.
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Mm. And in this whole, I mean, look, I, I know you
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and I, I know where you and I stand on this, right?
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We, we don't think will slow down. He won races last year.
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Like he was in Victory Lane last year.
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Still proved he could do it,
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but the number of people that, you know, it, it came up.
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They're like, I'm really curious to see how Will does.
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And, and it wasn't ever like a, yeah, I don't know,
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like it's a big change or whatever.
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Everyone's like, oh, like no
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Will's gonna win races this year.
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Like that's just, that's a foregone,
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It's just question how many Right.
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And that's, he was the highest and,
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and I think he's the most consistent
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and the highest performer of the Penske drivers
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last year for sure.
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Um, and obviously, you know, it's come out that he didn't
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so much get dropped as make his own decision to walk away.
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And so I like the fact that this has come, you know,
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of his own volition and that mm-hmm .
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Andretti for him handed him the best opportunity he believed
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to go and, and get results.
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It's the first time that Andretti have
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had a champion on their books.
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In how long? Like a long time. Well, when was the last one,
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Ryan?
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Since Ryan. Ryan, yeah. 21. Yeah.
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So, you know, a good long time.
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They've got Zuki on board as well.
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Like there's a lot of change there
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that could open up what's been missing,
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and let's not forget he's in her's car.
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Mm-hmm . That car should have won St. Pete last year.
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If it wasn't for the botch pit stop, he would've won St.
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Pete hands down.
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Like he was ahead of below on the strategy, would've won St.
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Pete Power just already.
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Look at how many pole positions he has at that track.
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Look at how much he loves that circuit. Right? Yeah.
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He's the last driver to beat Palo to a title, God dammit.
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Like if, if he,
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Great point.
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Imagine he opens up the season bam, debut
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with Andretti Paul win on St.
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Streets to St. Pete.
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Like what a start to the season that would be.
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And then we're just like, well this is box office, let's go.
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The thing I think's important though, to just go back
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to one thing you said there was left of his own volition,
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but it was because of how he felt he'd been treated
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and that he did not deserve that treatment
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after how loyal he'd been to the team
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and the success they'd had and all the rest of it.
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And, and yes.
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So I think all things are true,
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but it's not just that he like walked away.
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No, no, he didn't, he didn't look at Penske
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and think, I can find better elsewhere.
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He knew that the writer was on the wall
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and didn't like the way that he'd been
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treated. Right. Through
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That. Fair enough process.
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Fair enough. And we, you know, and we'd known
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because we asked Ma Lucas this time last year,
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we asked him about the Penske link and the Penske tie in.
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It was obvious then, you know,
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and we were all just waiting for it to, to unfold.
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And I think the way in which it did,
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the way in which it handled, you know, that didn't,
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that didn't play to somebody of, of Will's experience
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and the respect that he should have been given.
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Um, so he is gone somewhere where he'll get it.
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And I, uh, I'm super excited to see what he does
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with, with this opportunity. It could be great fun.
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And then that leads into Ma Lucas nicely.
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'cause he was another one that was really fascinating
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to talk to because Oh, please.
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You've got a guy that, you know, the, the bulk
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of his indie car races have happened
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with Dale Coin Racing, right?
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Yeah. He had two consecutive full seasons there
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and then has done this Merry-go-round of,
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didn't even do a race for McLaren, uh, couple races
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with Shank, then he did his season with Foyt.
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So he's, he's had as many teams
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as he has had years in the sport, you know,
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now obviously at Penske.
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But the, the point that he made was he, you know,
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look Dale Co we Know is, is Dale Coy.
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They operate the way they do and, and always have.
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And we love him for it.
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Foyt again had some Penske help,
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but it's still a team that's been on the lower half
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for a while and don't have a lot of resource in,
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in the same way as the Big Four.
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But now he's like, I'm at Penske.
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He goes, there's just so much stuff that he goes,
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you can just have whatever you want.
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Yeah. Like anything you ask for.
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And it's not even just like stuff, it's also like if I ask
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for a change or if I ask for can we do this?
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Like whatever you request is yours.
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Well, and I think
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that's such a fascinating situation for him,
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But who did we discover was the exemplification of
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that Scott McLaughlin,
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who has basically hoovered up everybody that he wanted.
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You know, Scott has gone over the off season
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and has taken complete control of that team.
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That's Scott's team now, right?
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Because Joseph's left the door open.
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Scott's gone in and hoovered up all the people
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that he wanted, got them all on his car.
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He's, he's the number one, you know,
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and he's taken, he's, he's walked, he's walked into
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that power vacuum and he's gone,
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yeah, I'm running this team now.
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This is, this is my, and and Lucas even said,
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Scott's been the one that's reached out
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and Scott's been the one that's helped.
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And you know, Scott's been like this great, you know,
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big Brother to me bringing me into the team.
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Like that's Scott's house now. So
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When you say Joseph's left the door
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open, what, what do you mean by that?
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Well, with Will leaving right.
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Will was, was quite clearly your kind
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of defacto team leader there, just in terms of age,
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experience, you know,
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everything that he brought to the party.
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So when somebody with
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that much character leaves the organization,
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and by the way, an organization in Flux, you know,
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in the midst of a massive period of rebuilding, well,
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who is going to be the one that steps forward
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and takes lead of that team as a driver, you know, to become
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that magnetic personality that binds everyone
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and draws everyone together
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and makes people want to come to work in the morning.
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You know, you'd think it'd be Joseph, right?
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But I think everything we've seen,
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and certainly what we heard,
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it appears like Scott's the one who's stepped into that void
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and said, right, I'm going to, I'm gonna take control
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of this situation Penske's mind now,
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which I found fascinating.
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Really, really interesting.
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He's hungry, man. He's hungry. Yeah.
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You know, that's a, that's a driver that came from a world
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where, you know, he was the defacto, uh, series leader,
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nevermind team leader, you know,
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winning championships on the trot, dozens of races a year,
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different format, schedule,
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but still, um, this guy wants to win championships.
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Yeah. This guy wants to get back to that.
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That's what he came from. That's what he knows.
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That's what fuels him.
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And you know, he's been the top performing Penske guy a few
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of the years that he's been there,
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but there's this little problem called Alex Pallo
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that has stopped him from really mounting a,
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a championship fight.
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And, uh, he's over it.
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I think the interesting thing for me is, I, you know,
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we got into this conversation talking about Lucas,
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but it's something that you said while we were in,
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in Indianapolis, was how much Lucas, you know,
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in his first offering as a Penske driver reminded you
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of New Garden when he started as Pike driver.
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Like the happiness, the eyes wide open,
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the expectation that was there.
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And, you know, let's not forget this is a kid.
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He still hasn't won an IndyCar race. Yeah.
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You know, and he's driving for
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the biggest name in the sport.
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It's, there's a hell of a lot of pressure.
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And I wonder how much of the Penske ISS will
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weigh on the Lucas's
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because he's a very, you know, he's a, he's a very likable
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and a very unique character.
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But there's a way you have to be,
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and a person you have to be when you are in
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that Penske fold.
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So how much does that rub off on him?
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And how much do we lose? Yeah.
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How much
Do we need to lose?
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How much does, does, does Little Dave need to, to, you know,
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kind of be changed in order to turn into this,
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this race winning machine that they need?
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Like, it's a really interesting question to be Big Dave.
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To be Big Dave. Yeah, exactly.
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Although you can, you can make an argument
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that like McLaughlin never really got fully Penske ified,
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although he came in as a champion and in a different series
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and like, well established.
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But like, I, I expected him to like,
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have the rougher edges kind of sanded down
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and that never really happened.
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Yeah, true. And like,
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there's been examples in the past when Montoya came back
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from his NASCAR stint and, and drove for Penske.
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He was still Juan, you know, that was never gonna change.
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And I think everybody knew that.
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And, and look, I mean, if you talk to David
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and if you see, I mean,
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there's even been like jokes made about it online.
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Penske do seem like they've taken a half step
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back on some of that stuff.
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And they're kind of allowing drivers
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to be themselves a bit more, um,
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still don't think he can show up with a beard,
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but, you know, in, in other ways, I think they're allowed
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to kind of be themselves, which is important. Like,
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When will he lose his curls?
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Then he'll be, you know, when when does he get
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Well, yeah, if he gets like the buzz cut, that's,
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that's when we know, that's when we know.
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But I said that to power.
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I was like, I want you to show up to St.
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Pete, which is like a mountain man beard.
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You know, it should just because, just because
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Be so amazing, like in his black suit, dark
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Power , absolutely dark power. But
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Like, you know, but the one thing that that Melaleuca said
505
00:19:03.325 --> 00:19:04.845
as well, we were like, you know, how does it feel
506
00:19:04.845 --> 00:19:05.925
having this suit on?
507
00:19:06.185 --> 00:19:07.685
And he was like, you know, it is a bit
508
00:19:07.685 --> 00:19:08.765
like a superhero suit.
509
00:19:08.765 --> 00:19:11.205
You know, you pull on like the Spider-Man outfit
510
00:19:11.205 --> 00:19:12.765
or the Batman costume or whatever,
511
00:19:12.795 --> 00:19:14.805
like you are, you're a superhero.
512
00:19:14.945 --> 00:19:16.645
You, you pull that Verizon suit on
513
00:19:16.705 --> 00:19:19.925
and you just, it imbues so much of the person who's in it.
514
00:19:19.925 --> 00:19:20.965
And he said, and for me, it's weird
515
00:19:20.965 --> 00:19:23.525
because for my whole life I've been looking at willpower
516
00:19:23.525 --> 00:19:25.405
wearing this suit, and now I'm wearing it.
517
00:19:25.405 --> 00:19:27.525
And it's, you know, it's a, it's a strange thing
518
00:19:28.195 --> 00:19:29.485
What he says my whole life.
519
00:19:29.755 --> 00:19:32.085
He's almost being literal . Yeah.
520
00:19:32.505 --> 00:19:34.845
That's, he's almost, it's almost true.
521
00:19:35.665 --> 00:19:36.965
All of his like conscious
522
00:19:37.105 --> 00:19:39.445
and life that he can remember every
523
00:19:39.915 --> 00:19:41.725
Life memory he has, will power's been that?
524
00:19:42.115 --> 00:19:43.605
It's it's so true though, man.
525
00:19:43.605 --> 00:19:45.205
Like when you, when you,
526
00:19:45.525 --> 00:19:47.165
'cause like, I, I remember going through kind
527
00:19:47.165 --> 00:19:48.285
of a similar transition, right?
528
00:19:48.385 --> 00:19:51.485
So last year, this sounds so stupid.
529
00:19:51.755 --> 00:19:54.965
Last year, Lucas's suit was black
530
00:19:55.885 --> 00:19:58.305
and maybe it, it had an AJ Foyt racing logo on it,
531
00:19:58.305 --> 00:20:00.065
and maybe it had something else.
532
00:20:00.465 --> 00:20:01.625
I don't even know what was on
533
00:20:01.625 --> 00:20:02.825
that car. I don't even remember.
534
00:20:02.905 --> 00:20:05.585
Clarance White and blue for some of the season. Sure.
535
00:20:05.585 --> 00:20:07.425
It was his little white and blue Clance. It
536
00:20:07.425 --> 00:20:08.425
Was just white, it was just whatever.
537
00:20:08.425 --> 00:20:09.865
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. There's that blue one.
538
00:20:09.865 --> 00:20:11.425
It looked like everyone else's car.
539
00:20:11.425 --> 00:20:14.065
It looked like Joseph's car. I don't know, whatever.
540
00:20:16.565 --> 00:20:18.825
And then, but like, but it's, it's, it's like,
541
00:20:18.895 --> 00:20:20.105
it's, it's piecemealed.
542
00:20:20.105 --> 00:20:21.425
It's patched together. It kind
543
00:20:21.425 --> 00:20:24.105
of feels like an indie lights driver's suit
544
00:20:24.175 --> 00:20:25.865
with a couple patches on it, you know?
545
00:20:25.965 --> 00:20:29.145
And then all of a sudden you're wearing this thing that is
546
00:20:30.255 --> 00:20:31.505
very curated
547
00:20:31.885 --> 00:20:35.825
and very, uh, very intentionally designed
548
00:20:36.285 --> 00:20:40.505
and built to appease X contract y sponsor.
549
00:20:40.845 --> 00:20:44.225
You know? And then it, when you put that on,
550
00:20:45.665 --> 00:20:46.805
it feels different.
551
00:20:46.995 --> 00:20:50.085
Like my first IndyCar season, you know,
552
00:20:50.185 --> 00:20:52.605
our sponsor logo was, yeah, it was like a patch
553
00:20:52.635 --> 00:20:53.645
that was stitched over
554
00:20:53.705 --> 00:20:55.365
and like cut in the middle for the zipper
555
00:20:55.385 --> 00:20:57.125
and it was just like a stock suit
556
00:20:57.395 --> 00:20:59.165
that we bolted some patches onto.
557
00:20:59.705 --> 00:21:02.605
And then all of a sudden, the next year I'm in a bright
558
00:21:02.775 --> 00:21:06.405
green and black GoDaddy, like one of the most iconic
559
00:21:06.505 --> 00:21:09.965
of the era, you know, looks, it makes a difference.
560
00:21:10.065 --> 00:21:14.325
It brings you, you feel like you've joined the other side
561
00:21:14.325 --> 00:21:15.485
of the conversation Yeah.
562
00:21:15.545 --> 00:21:16.965
Of, of being an IndyCar driver.
563
00:21:17.225 --> 00:21:19.565
And Dave's getting into a, to experience that. Now,
564
00:21:23.255 --> 00:21:25.645
While we're talking about logos, um,
565
00:21:25.745 --> 00:21:27.525
and placement, can we talk about the new Honda
566
00:21:27.555 --> 00:21:29.005
logo? Um, yes. So,
567
00:21:29.065 --> 00:21:30.645
So we established it's a throwback.
568
00:21:30.665 --> 00:21:31.845
Did you, did you, did you know that?
569
00:21:32.065 --> 00:21:36.965
So, okay. It's a, it's, it's a, is it?
570
00:21:37.265 --> 00:21:41.005
Ooh, ooh. Buxton's got, buxton's got feelings on this. So
571
00:21:41.005 --> 00:21:42.245
Here's the thing, right?
572
00:21:42.745 --> 00:21:46.605
Um, clearly all the teams haven't been sent the same PDF,
573
00:21:46.785 --> 00:21:49.405
uh, that has the exact specifications of
574
00:21:49.405 --> 00:21:51.365
how large the logo needs to be on their suits
575
00:21:51.365 --> 00:21:53.165
because they're all different size Suits.
576
00:21:53.185 --> 00:21:56.845
And it looks as though GSI got, got a missive
577
00:21:56.845 --> 00:22:00.525
that said their logo needed to be 10 times the size, uh,
578
00:22:00.625 --> 00:22:01.645
of every other.
579
00:22:02.285 --> 00:22:04.365
'cause it takes up the whole, um, kind
580
00:22:04.365 --> 00:22:07.085
of right breast, uh, of the suit.
581
00:22:07.425 --> 00:22:08.965
Um, okay. Yeah.
582
00:22:08.965 --> 00:22:11.045
Look, it's a throwback to the original, what is it,
583
00:22:11.245 --> 00:22:13.885
1962 logo, something like that.
584
00:22:14.025 --> 00:22:15.765
But it's not, because the h is, is a,
585
00:22:15.765 --> 00:22:17.245
it's a very different shape.
586
00:22:17.355 --> 00:22:19.245
It's slightly longer and wider and,
587
00:22:19.265 --> 00:22:20.805
and the angles are, are different.
588
00:22:21.065 --> 00:22:23.565
The argument that I had right way, like when we,
589
00:22:23.565 --> 00:22:26.445
when we were looking at this is is the Honda logo,
590
00:22:26.745 --> 00:22:29.925
and it has changed over the years, but is it strong enough?
591
00:22:29.945 --> 00:22:32.565
Is that h alone strong enough
592
00:22:32.565 --> 00:22:35.965
that when you take the shield away, it is as recognizable
593
00:22:35.965 --> 00:22:38.405
unless it says Honda underneath it, right.
594
00:22:38.675 --> 00:22:40.645
Take the shield away from the Ferrari logo
595
00:22:40.905 --> 00:22:43.325
and that horse is, you know what that is?
596
00:22:43.665 --> 00:22:46.605
No matter, you know where you go, you look at the,
597
00:22:46.985 --> 00:22:48.285
at the bow tie, right?
598
00:22:48.665 --> 00:22:50.485
You want the the Chevy Bow tie. Okay.
599
00:22:50.915 --> 00:22:53.685
That is, you know what that is wherever you look at it,
600
00:22:53.825 --> 00:22:55.645
the Audi four circles, right?
601
00:22:56.455 --> 00:23:00.285
Great. The h particularly if you are now
602
00:23:01.005 --> 00:23:03.965
changing the design of the H to throw back to something
603
00:23:03.965 --> 00:23:07.885
that hasn't been seen on their logo for 60 years, is
604
00:23:07.885 --> 00:23:10.725
that well known enough that you can actually get rid,
605
00:23:10.725 --> 00:23:12.885
essentially of two major design elements
606
00:23:13.385 --> 00:23:16.045
and just expect it to automatically speak to people.
607
00:23:16.105 --> 00:23:17.445
And I'm not sure it does.
608
00:23:17.765 --> 00:23:19.845
I think it's, it's cool, but I,
609
00:23:19.905 --> 00:23:21.845
so it automatically shouts Honda to me.
610
00:23:22.425 --> 00:23:24.805
So two, so the two points, one, I like it.
611
00:23:24.845 --> 00:23:26.005
I like the way it looks. I do
612
00:23:26.005 --> 00:23:27.045
think, I think it's a cool logo.
613
00:23:27.115 --> 00:23:28.205
Yeah, it's cool. So, but,
614
00:23:28.345 --> 00:23:31.125
but so to your second point, do we know if this is like a,
615
00:23:31.355 --> 00:23:34.605
like a, a conscious long-term rebrand
616
00:23:34.605 --> 00:23:36.325
or is this like a one year thing?
617
00:23:36.345 --> 00:23:38.565
Are are we, are we celebrating something this year? What are
618
00:23:38.565 --> 00:23:39.645
They celebrating 80
Years?
619
00:23:39.645 --> 00:23:42.565
Because like until that
620
00:23:43.115 --> 00:23:45.165
logo is on the road cars, right?
621
00:23:45.595 --> 00:23:47.045
It's not going to have
622
00:23:47.045 --> 00:23:48.485
that effect that you're talking about.
623
00:23:48.585 --> 00:23:50.365
So like, if they were rebranding the whole company
624
00:23:50.425 --> 00:23:52.605
and that started showing up on the road cars, yes,
625
00:23:52.625 --> 00:23:53.725
in time it would do that.
626
00:23:53.945 --> 00:23:55.725
So I don't know. I don't know what the, why
627
00:23:56.025 --> 00:23:57.165
Are you doing a special logo
628
00:23:57.165 --> 00:23:59.565
that has no relevance to anything else? Maybe
629
00:23:59.565 --> 00:24:02.125
They were, maybe they're just a glam up bro.
630
00:24:02.265 --> 00:24:03.925
What's quit hating?
631
00:24:05.005 --> 00:24:07.365
I would at this juncture, like to thank Honda very much
632
00:24:07.365 --> 00:24:08.885
for the care package they sent me over the
633
00:24:08.885 --> 00:24:09.965
winter of the fine T-shirt.
634
00:24:09.995 --> 00:24:11.245
Yeah, you gorgeous
635
00:24:11.525 --> 00:24:12.525
Cashmere hoodie.
636
00:24:12.995 --> 00:24:15.725
It's gorgeous. I
Actually wore mine. What level
637
00:24:15.825 --> 00:24:17.245
Of IndyCar media do I need
638
00:24:17.245 --> 00:24:18.685
to give you to get care packages?
639
00:24:18.845 --> 00:24:21.125
I liked it so much. I on to my wife and said,
640
00:24:21.185 --> 00:24:23.365
and said, I need another one of these .
641
00:24:24.005 --> 00:24:27.805
And she brought me like a, a beautiful, uh, panaya, uh,
642
00:24:27.805 --> 00:24:31.565
like a uh, uh, like an army green, uh, hooded,
643
00:24:32.235 --> 00:24:34.285
nice lovely wool jumper thing.
644
00:24:34.435 --> 00:24:36.125
Nice. Really, really nice. Really
645
00:24:36.315 --> 00:24:37.315
Very nice.
646
00:24:37.315 --> 00:24:38.245
I actually was wearing mine.
647
00:24:38.505 --> 00:24:42.325
We interviewed, uh, Dario earlier in the week. Um, I
648
00:24:42.325 --> 00:24:44.885
Saw that
And I was, I was wearing that there. How
649
00:24:44.885 --> 00:24:46.445
Cool did Dario's getting back in at
650
00:24:46.445 --> 00:24:47.565
St. Pete? I love that.
651
00:24:47.845 --> 00:24:50.205
I, and this is the thing that I said to him was like,
652
00:24:50.795 --> 00:24:53.885
it's gonna be so cool for IndyCar fans
653
00:24:53.945 --> 00:24:54.965
to get to see him back on track.
654
00:24:55.165 --> 00:24:56.405
'cause like he does the Goodwood stuff
655
00:24:56.405 --> 00:24:58.965
and he did the Dubai 24 hour thing, which is cool.
656
00:24:59.625 --> 00:25:03.765
Um, but for him to be back on track at a, you know, a place
657
00:25:03.825 --> 00:25:05.925
that's filled with people that know him and love him
658
00:25:05.925 --> 00:25:08.525
and support him, it's gonna be super cool to watch. I
659
00:25:08.525 --> 00:25:10.685
Just, I love the video in the intro as well.
660
00:25:10.795 --> 00:25:12.645
It's like, you don't need to introduce who you are,
661
00:25:12.645 --> 00:25:13.765
dude. Like everyone knows who you are.
662
00:25:13.995 --> 00:25:14.995
Yeah.
,
663
00:25:15.545 --> 00:25:19.565
I'm Dar Frank Keating. I've, I've won everything. Um, I've
664
00:25:19.565 --> 00:25:21.685
Done some stuff. Maybe you've heard of me.
665
00:25:21.865 --> 00:25:25.085
You may remember me from such victories
666
00:25:25.225 --> 00:25:26.225
as
.
667
00:25:28.905 --> 00:25:31.285
So,
So heading into this season.
668
00:25:31.915 --> 00:25:34.125
Yeah.
Uh, there's two things I want to talk about.
669
00:25:34.625 --> 00:25:37.845
One is what people can expect.
670
00:25:38.125 --> 00:25:39.805
I don't even know what we're allowed to say about this,
671
00:25:40.065 --> 00:25:41.285
so I want your take,
672
00:25:41.465 --> 00:25:43.925
but like, what people can expect from
673
00:25:45.025 --> 00:25:47.005
Fox on our side.
674
00:25:47.745 --> 00:25:49.205
What's new, what's different?
675
00:25:49.285 --> 00:25:50.845
I mean, obviously coming into St.
676
00:25:50.845 --> 00:25:54.485
Pete this year is 180 degrees
677
00:25:55.005 --> 00:25:57.005
a different situation than it was last year.
678
00:25:57.705 --> 00:25:59.245
So, you know, like before the seminar,
679
00:25:59.365 --> 00:26:00.765
I think we were chatting about this before the seminar.
680
00:26:01.125 --> 00:26:03.085
I rewatched the St.
681
00:26:03.085 --> 00:26:04.725
Pete broadcast from last year,
682
00:26:05.105 --> 00:26:08.485
and then I rewatched the Nashville broadcast from last year
683
00:26:08.985 --> 00:26:11.165
to see where we were
684
00:26:11.425 --> 00:26:13.725
and where we, where, you know, how it started
685
00:26:13.785 --> 00:26:15.085
and how it's going kind of thing.
686
00:26:15.195 --> 00:26:18.325
Yeah. What we were doing right and wrong and what we fixed
687
00:26:18.385 --> 00:26:19.725
or what still needed to be fixed.
688
00:26:20.185 --> 00:26:23.165
Uh, and it was, it was really fascinating to, to see
689
00:26:23.165 --> 00:26:25.045
that sort of, you know, difference.
690
00:26:25.395 --> 00:26:27.365
Yeah. Um, but I know, you know,
691
00:26:27.365 --> 00:26:29.245
at the seminar they were telling us of, of some
692
00:26:29.245 --> 00:26:31.005
of the things that we're doing this year.
693
00:26:31.345 --> 00:26:34.005
And I Are we allowed to share some
694
00:26:34.005 --> 00:26:35.005
Of the core things?
695
00:26:35.005 --> 00:26:36.365
No. I dunno if we're allowed to say,
696
00:26:37.515 --> 00:26:39.005
Alright, let's just say this then
697
00:26:39.305 --> 00:26:41.345
Say warm up is back-up.
698
00:26:41.485 --> 00:26:42.485
Is
Back the warm up
699
00:26:42.485 --> 00:26:43.925
The warm
And there's
700
00:26:43.925 --> 00:26:44.925
More of it.
701
00:26:44.925 --> 00:26:45.925
Yes. Actually there's a, there's a cool announcement coming
702
00:26:45.925 --> 00:26:47.245
about warmup, which is exciting.
703
00:26:47.665 --> 00:26:49.165
Yep. So, so that's
704
00:26:49.165 --> 00:26:50.165
Gonna be good.
705
00:26:50.165 --> 00:26:50.525
That's cool. Yes.
706
00:26:50.525 --> 00:26:52.845
There's there's gonna be more stuff. It'll
707
00:26:52.845 --> 00:26:53.845
Be warmer.
708
00:26:53.845 --> 00:26:55.205
It'll be warmer and higher
709
00:26:55.205 --> 00:26:58.805
because there'll be more warm, uh, I dunno, whatever.
710
00:26:59.225 --> 00:27:02.925
Um, yeah. Next, I don't know. Cut that .
711
00:27:04.065 --> 00:27:04.965
No, we're leaving that in.
712
00:27:04.985 --> 00:27:06.085
That's a hundred percent stated.
713
00:27:06.745 --> 00:27:09.125
Um, there's gonna be some cool
714
00:27:10.455 --> 00:27:12.125
additional like, tech stuff.
715
00:27:12.665 --> 00:27:14.525
Yes. Like we're, we're pushing boundaries on that.
716
00:27:14.575 --> 00:27:15.605
We're adding some stuff.
717
00:27:15.785 --> 00:27:17.925
We are doubling down on some things
718
00:27:17.925 --> 00:27:20.085
that we've already been doing. And if Mitch
719
00:27:20.285 --> 00:27:21.645
Gets the camera angles that he wants,
720
00:27:22.115 --> 00:27:25.245
then it's gonna be great as well. 'cause um,
721
00:27:25.355 --> 00:27:27.365
Yeah, that's, that's another thing a really
722
00:27:27.365 --> 00:27:29.125
Hard on that
And that's a cool thing.
723
00:27:29.125 --> 00:27:30.965
That's something that I want people to pay attention
724
00:27:30.985 --> 00:27:34.325
to this year because, so Mitch is the director
725
00:27:34.665 --> 00:27:37.885
and last year was his first year doing motor sports,
726
00:27:38.145 --> 00:27:41.285
not indie car racing. Yeah. First,
727
00:27:41.415 --> 00:27:42.725
First lap of practice in St.
728
00:27:42.725 --> 00:27:45.365
Pete was the first lap of anything he'd cut ever.
729
00:27:45.455 --> 00:27:49.895
Right. And so he comes from a background
730
00:27:49.895 --> 00:27:50.935
of stick and ball sports.
731
00:27:51.045 --> 00:27:52.055
He's done Super bowls,
732
00:27:52.055 --> 00:27:53.815
he's done World series, he's done all that sort of stuff.
733
00:27:53.815 --> 00:27:56.215
Right. He's done arena, a lot of arena games.
734
00:27:56.965 --> 00:27:59.055
This is a very different arena. Yes.
735
00:27:59.275 --> 00:28:01.215
And it's a steep learning curve.
736
00:28:01.235 --> 00:28:03.895
And he did a phenomenal job throughout the year. Oh good.
737
00:28:04.075 --> 00:28:07.015
Always getting better. He's he's super analytical.
738
00:28:07.285 --> 00:28:09.855
He's self-critical, you know. Yeah. Almost to a fault.
739
00:28:10.075 --> 00:28:11.855
And you know, he is that perfectionist kind of guy.
740
00:28:12.715 --> 00:28:16.175
But so when you, when you have a racetrack, somebody ahead
741
00:28:16.295 --> 00:28:18.775
of time goes and they do their camera design.
742
00:28:18.835 --> 00:28:20.215
So you go and you lay out
743
00:28:20.505 --> 00:28:22.455
where all you have x number of cameras.
744
00:28:22.645 --> 00:28:24.335
Yeah. We're gonna put one here, one here.
745
00:28:24.335 --> 00:28:25.615
We're gonna put the jib camera here.
746
00:28:25.615 --> 00:28:27.415
We're gonna have the this here this year.
747
00:28:27.655 --> 00:28:29.415
Whatever, whatever. Yeah. So for last year,
748
00:28:29.415 --> 00:28:32.175
because he was brand new to this, he sort of just defaulted
749
00:28:32.175 --> 00:28:34.295
to what had always been done at those circuits
750
00:28:34.535 --> 00:28:35.535
by the previous group.
751
00:28:35.925 --> 00:28:37.935
Yeah. So now he's got a year of experience
752
00:28:37.955 --> 00:28:39.615
and he's had a a, a full weekend
753
00:28:39.615 --> 00:28:40.695
at each of these racetracks.
754
00:28:40.695 --> 00:28:43.615
He gets to go around and he can tweak some stuff. Well,
755
00:28:43.935 --> 00:28:45.415
'cause he can say, I needed a camera
756
00:28:45.445 --> 00:28:47.735
that showed me this angle and it didn't exist last year.
757
00:28:48.035 --> 00:28:49.975
And wouldn't it have been cool if we'd have had this angle?
758
00:28:50.175 --> 00:28:51.535
'cause then we could have shown this much better.
759
00:28:51.995 --> 00:28:55.255
And you know, it's, it's that I think
760
00:28:55.255 --> 00:28:56.575
what he did last year was astonishing.
761
00:28:56.735 --> 00:28:59.575
I couldn't imagine, you know, any one of us going
762
00:28:59.595 --> 00:29:02.495
and commentating on a ball sport.
763
00:29:03.475 --> 00:29:04.535
Can you imagine doing that?
764
00:29:04.555 --> 00:29:07.335
Oh, even, like, even for me, the transition from F1
765
00:29:07.335 --> 00:29:09.255
to indie car was daunting.
766
00:29:09.635 --> 00:29:12.055
So coming over from baseball
767
00:29:12.315 --> 00:29:13.695
and sticking ball sports, by the way.
768
00:29:13.995 --> 00:29:16.695
And you know, he's won sports Emmys for his broadcasts,
769
00:29:16.695 --> 00:29:18.095
you know, in that, in, in that field.
770
00:29:18.555 --> 00:29:20.175
Um, but coming over and,
771
00:29:20.175 --> 00:29:21.855
and having to do racing, having never done it
772
00:29:21.855 --> 00:29:24.055
before, I thought the the speed
773
00:29:24.055 --> 00:29:26.855
with which he caught onto everything and got it.
774
00:29:27.165 --> 00:29:28.695
Like properly got it was.
775
00:29:28.715 --> 00:29:31.815
Um, and you know, like there'd be things when when we'd say,
776
00:29:31.815 --> 00:29:33.735
and we need more of this and we, we need more of that.
777
00:29:34.185 --> 00:29:36.015
You'd have to explain it in week one.
778
00:29:36.435 --> 00:29:38.095
And then the next time you said it,
779
00:29:38.155 --> 00:29:39.055
he knew exactly what you were
780
00:29:39.055 --> 00:29:40.175
talking about. And it was just, he's
781
00:29:40.175 --> 00:29:41.175
Yeah.
782
00:29:41.175 --> 00:29:42.405
He's very, very switched on.
783
00:29:42.955 --> 00:29:45.085
Very switched on passionate car guy
784
00:29:45.185 --> 00:29:47.765
and has become, I think we've made a racing fan out
785
00:29:47.765 --> 00:29:48.965
of him. But, uh, oh,
786
00:29:49.025 --> 00:29:50.605
You can't, you can't do this if you're not.
787
00:29:50.625 --> 00:29:53.205
And he, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so pay, pay,
788
00:29:53.265 --> 00:29:55.765
Pay attention this year to the, it's to the camera angles.
789
00:29:56.075 --> 00:29:57.485
It's gonna be good. You know, and that's,
790
00:29:57.485 --> 00:29:59.205
but that's, it's all part
791
00:29:59.445 --> 00:30:01.405
and parcel of, of putting this thing together
792
00:30:01.465 --> 00:30:02.645
and selling it, you know,
793
00:30:02.665 --> 00:30:06.045
and making people enjoy watching it, um, is
794
00:30:06.045 --> 00:30:07.565
how it's presented, how it's laid out.
795
00:30:07.905 --> 00:30:10.845
Um, you know, I've been working on myself massively over the
796
00:30:10.845 --> 00:30:11.885
winter to try and improve.
797
00:30:12.125 --> 00:30:13.845
'cause I wasn't where I wanted to be last year.
798
00:30:14.045 --> 00:30:16.045
I think I got closer to it by the end of the season.
799
00:30:16.105 --> 00:30:18.285
But then I went back and I watched everything over the
800
00:30:18.285 --> 00:30:22.205
winter and man, I just got, I got books and books of notes
801
00:30:22.265 --> 00:30:23.285
and notes and notes
802
00:30:23.305 --> 00:30:25.005
and notes of like, don't do this,
803
00:30:25.495 --> 00:30:27.205
don't do this, do more of that.
804
00:30:27.555 --> 00:30:29.485
That was cringe. Don't do that again. .
805
00:30:29.865 --> 00:30:31.645
Um, you know, and people would probably know
806
00:30:31.645 --> 00:30:32.925
what I'm talking about with those kind of things,
807
00:30:32.985 --> 00:30:35.525
but you know, you, you, you, you gotta be critical of it.
808
00:30:35.545 --> 00:30:38.205
And I thought the worst thing was we got to Nashville
809
00:30:38.205 --> 00:30:39.245
and I was just like, I just want
810
00:30:39.245 --> 00:30:40.725
another, I just want one more.
811
00:30:40.725 --> 00:30:41.925
Yeah. I wanna keep working at it
812
00:30:41.925 --> 00:30:43.365
and I want to keep, you know,
813
00:30:43.365 --> 00:30:45.325
keep chipping away to get better.
814
00:30:45.465 --> 00:30:47.285
But, you know, six months old,
815
00:30:47.285 --> 00:30:48.725
Have you considered having some more, uh,
816
00:30:48.725 --> 00:30:49.925
cough medicine? See if that helps .
817
00:30:50.585 --> 00:30:52.165
Um, here's, here's the
818
00:30:52.165 --> 00:30:53.165
Thing.
819
00:30:53.165 --> 00:30:56.885
Like, I don't know if this stuff's getting me drunk, like .
820
00:30:57.235 --> 00:30:59.925
It's, I haven't drunk alcohol, uh,
821
00:31:00.295 --> 00:31:02.525
since like mid Ohio or something.
822
00:31:02.525 --> 00:31:04.005
Like seven, seven months now.
823
00:31:04.005 --> 00:31:06.485
This is the, this is the closest thing I I've had
824
00:31:06.485 --> 00:31:08.125
to a shot of anything in a,
825
00:31:08.385 --> 00:31:12.965
As he takes another cheer, bottoms up, Val, cheers.
826
00:31:14.035 --> 00:31:16.925
Like, so that, that transitions beautifully into
827
00:31:16.925 --> 00:31:19.325
what I actually just wanted to ask next and talk about next.
828
00:31:19.545 --> 00:31:23.965
Was, was you basically in the sense of, you know, a year,
829
00:31:24.245 --> 00:31:25.245
a year on, right?
830
00:31:25.245 --> 00:31:29.045
Oh, you're going into this now year two. What's different?
831
00:31:30.145 --> 00:31:31.565
How much, like
832
00:31:31.625 --> 00:31:36.125
how different do you feel going into 26 than you did to 25
833
00:31:36.815 --> 00:31:38.405
Night and day, night and day different?
834
00:31:38.705 --> 00:31:41.445
You know, I still know I've got a lot to prove,
835
00:31:41.625 --> 00:31:44.365
but I feel like I belong a bit more than I did.
836
00:31:44.585 --> 00:31:47.005
And I think that will hopefully, you know, just,
837
00:31:47.115 --> 00:31:48.845
just take a bit of the pressure off.
838
00:31:49.025 --> 00:31:51.685
And, and I was very conscious of it from St.
839
00:31:51.685 --> 00:31:52.965
Pete all the way through to Nashville.
840
00:31:53.215 --> 00:31:56.845
There were times I was just trying way too hard to prove
841
00:31:56.845 --> 00:31:58.085
that I knew what I was talking about
842
00:31:58.185 --> 00:31:59.845
and prove that I belonged and,
843
00:32:00.185 --> 00:32:02.005
and get people on side and not to hate me.
844
00:32:02.125 --> 00:32:04.645
'cause I was an outsider coming into their thing, you know?
845
00:32:05.125 --> 00:32:06.365
'cause I didn't wanna be that guy
846
00:32:06.365 --> 00:32:08.205
that was like, Hey, you know, .
847
00:32:08.765 --> 00:32:09.965
I kind of wanted people to be
848
00:32:09.965 --> 00:32:11.085
like, oh yeah, he knows a <inaudible>.
849
00:32:11.625 --> 00:32:14.005
Um, but I think I probably tried a bit too hard
850
00:32:14.005 --> 00:32:15.165
on occasion to, to do that.
851
00:32:15.265 --> 00:32:17.485
So just to have fun, man. You know?
852
00:32:17.505 --> 00:32:19.245
And we have such a laugh. We have such a great
853
00:32:19.245 --> 00:32:20.805
time. And it's
854
00:32:20.805 --> 00:32:22.605
A good group, man. It's, it's a fun group.
855
00:32:22.635 --> 00:32:25.045
It's, it's amazing. And the broadcast that I watched back
856
00:32:25.045 --> 00:32:26.885
that I enjoyed the most were the ones
857
00:32:26.885 --> 00:32:28.045
where we had the most fun.
858
00:32:28.155 --> 00:32:30.565
Yeah. And the, the sessions that felt the easiest
859
00:32:30.745 --> 00:32:32.365
for me were always the practice sessions
860
00:32:32.365 --> 00:32:33.805
because we were just having a giggle.
861
00:32:33.865 --> 00:32:35.325
You know, we were just having a laugh with it.
862
00:32:35.825 --> 00:32:37.885
So I hope we can bring more of that
863
00:32:37.885 --> 00:32:38.925
to our broadcast this year.
864
00:32:39.385 --> 00:32:41.325
Um, because when we are having fun
865
00:32:41.325 --> 00:32:42.325
and when we're enjoying it
866
00:32:42.325 --> 00:32:43.565
and we are enjoying it, you know,
867
00:32:43.565 --> 00:32:45.205
how can you not love doing this job?
868
00:32:45.865 --> 00:32:49.125
Um, then I think everyone at home en enjoys it as well.
869
00:32:49.355 --> 00:32:50.845
Just remembering to stick to my job
870
00:32:51.505 --> 00:32:53.085
and not talk over you in Townsend and,
871
00:32:53.105 --> 00:32:55.165
and step on what you guys should be doing.
872
00:32:55.465 --> 00:32:56.485
Um, well then I'll
873
00:32:56.485 --> 00:32:57.485
Be, well we all do that .
874
00:32:57.995 --> 00:32:59.445
Hope we all have to get better at that.
875
00:33:00.505 --> 00:33:02.005
You mean Townsend and James are
876
00:33:02.005 --> 00:33:03.245
so respectful to each other.
877
00:33:04.025 --> 00:33:05.165
not stepping on. You know,
878
00:33:05.345 --> 00:33:06.845
You know what, I didn't have to step in
879
00:33:06.845 --> 00:33:08.085
as often as I thought I was going
880
00:33:08.085 --> 00:33:09.085
to
.
881
00:33:09.835 --> 00:33:10.845
That was good. They were, they were.
882
00:33:10.845 --> 00:33:12.085
Well maybe they'll be less well behaved
883
00:33:12.085 --> 00:33:13.165
in year two, but year one.
884
00:33:13.395 --> 00:33:15.765
Yeah, we get along, we get along. See,
885
00:33:15.925 --> 00:33:18.205
Everyone thinks they don't and they fully do get along.
886
00:33:18.825 --> 00:33:22.325
No acs my buddy. I like t Bell a lot, so, okay.
887
00:33:22.745 --> 00:33:24.325
That's in your car. It's coming up.
888
00:33:24.335 --> 00:33:26.685
We've got the Phoenix test coming up. Super excited.
889
00:33:27.025 --> 00:33:28.765
We have, I know you've gotta run
890
00:33:28.765 --> 00:33:30.925
because yeah, Tim took up too much time.
891
00:33:31.505 --> 00:33:33.525
But one of the things I wanted to quickly just touch on,
892
00:33:33.635 --> 00:33:35.845
because we like to cover everything on this show
893
00:33:35.905 --> 00:33:37.845
and we didn't get there fast enough,
894
00:33:37.945 --> 00:33:42.285
but I mean, 32nd thoughts on the, the week of shakedown.
895
00:33:42.705 --> 00:33:44.525
Um, oh, in Barcelona for
896
00:33:44.645 --> 00:33:45.645
S one.
897
00:33:45.645 --> 00:33:47.485
Okay. Uh, where do we start? The Audi, I hate the paint job.
898
00:33:47.565 --> 00:33:48.605
I think it looks like it's
899
00:33:48.605 --> 00:33:49.605
So bad.
900
00:33:49.605 --> 00:33:51.605
Like a team in one country's decided the front half
901
00:33:51.605 --> 00:33:53.565
and team the other country decided to back up
902
00:33:53.825 --> 00:33:55.965
Uh, the engine, which was maybe what happened. Well
903
00:33:55.965 --> 00:33:57.965
And they had a really difficult first week, apparently.
904
00:33:57.965 --> 00:33:59.525
Bottom of the pile out of everybody. Okay.
905
00:33:59.525 --> 00:34:00.885
The has looks, looks great.
906
00:34:01.045 --> 00:34:02.965
I love the, the design on the has. That's cool. I
907
00:34:02.965 --> 00:34:04.725
Was gonna say, hold on, on the count
908
00:34:04.725 --> 00:34:05.805
of three favorite livery.
909
00:34:06.945 --> 00:34:11.525
1, 2, 3. Ha. None of them. Oh ha. Mine ha.
910
00:34:12.035 --> 00:34:13.085
Yeah.
Yeah. The house is great.
911
00:34:13.345 --> 00:34:14.485
The house is, the house is
912
00:34:14.525 --> 00:34:15.765
a properly brought together house.
913
00:34:15.765 --> 00:34:16.925
It looks, it looks great. I,
914
00:34:17.515 --> 00:34:21.885
When a, when a base white livery is done correctly,
915
00:34:22.625 --> 00:34:24.125
it is gorgeous.
916
00:34:24.195 --> 00:34:26.925
Yeah. And we carb had a pretty solid one last year when,
917
00:34:26.955 --> 00:34:29.285
this is when Red Bull did the, like the,
918
00:34:29.665 --> 00:34:32.325
the one-off in Japan in, was
919
00:34:32.325 --> 00:34:33.325
It in Japan?
920
00:34:33.325 --> 00:34:33.925
Yeah, a couple years ago. Yeah. Yeah.
921
00:34:34.915 --> 00:34:36.085
Love a white liberty. That is,
922
00:34:36.085 --> 00:34:37.365
That is a gorgeous live.
923
00:34:37.485 --> 00:34:39.045
I think that looks great. Um, look,
924
00:34:39.095 --> 00:34:42.165
basic headlines from it are Mercedes, I mean,
925
00:34:42.515 --> 00:34:44.765
Bulletproof reliability already working on setup.
926
00:34:44.835 --> 00:34:46.325
Like that's what you want out
927
00:34:46.325 --> 00:34:48.045
of a shake down. Absolutely Perfect Run
928
00:34:48.115 --> 00:34:49.115
Race runs.
929
00:34:49.115 --> 00:34:50.565
They've done race runs already.
930
00:34:50.965 --> 00:34:52.485
Everyone's gonna be freaking out because,
931
00:34:52.515 --> 00:34:53.885
because they're on it.
932
00:34:53.885 --> 00:34:55.245
They're, they're properly on it.
933
00:34:55.665 --> 00:34:59.045
Um, I think the big, the big sketch, oh,
934
00:34:59.275 --> 00:35:01.685
also a Mercedes engine in the back of an Alpine.
935
00:35:01.685 --> 00:35:04.005
They've got a very interesting flappy rear wing.
936
00:35:04.345 --> 00:35:07.565
Um, that looks quite, quite, quite an interesting one.
937
00:35:07.565 --> 00:35:08.845
You know, Williams is the big story.
938
00:35:09.505 --> 00:35:11.045
Um, and is it the end of the world?
939
00:35:11.405 --> 00:35:13.245
Possibly not that they missed the shake down.
940
00:35:13.585 --> 00:35:16.125
You know, you look back half a decade,
941
00:35:16.525 --> 00:35:17.765
Williams missed the first few days of testing,
942
00:35:17.765 --> 00:35:19.205
then turned up with a car that was slow
943
00:35:19.205 --> 00:35:22.365
and was full of illegal parts that if it's, if it's a repeat
944
00:35:22.365 --> 00:35:24.445
of that, then heads are gonna roll.
945
00:35:24.595 --> 00:35:27.245
However, let's look back to 2009
946
00:35:27.535 --> 00:35:30.325
where Braun missed the first two tests, turn up
947
00:35:30.325 --> 00:35:33.525
to the last test and ended up going and winning both.
948
00:35:33.755 --> 00:35:36.325
It's a great point. That's a great point. You
949
00:35:36.325 --> 00:35:37.485
Can turn up and because it's,
950
00:35:37.665 --> 00:35:39.405
And because it's such a big rules change,
951
00:35:39.675 --> 00:35:43.245
like if it's ever gonna happen, it's kind of time go
952
00:35:43.245 --> 00:35:44.245
Night.
953
00:35:44.245 --> 00:35:46.565
So like it doesn't, you can turn up late if you turn up late
954
00:35:46.565 --> 00:35:48.685
with a rocket ship who gives a <inaudible>, right?
955
00:35:48.685 --> 00:35:49.805
Yeah. If you turn up late
956
00:35:49.805 --> 00:35:51.805
and your car is slow, then you've got,
957
00:35:52.035 --> 00:35:53.405
then you've gotta answer some questions.
958
00:35:53.955 --> 00:35:57.165
Well, because like talk late and rapid. Great.
959
00:35:57.225 --> 00:35:58.245
Who cares? Uh, uh,
960
00:35:58.665 --> 00:36:01.085
If you, if you look at it just on paper, right?
961
00:36:01.155 --> 00:36:03.085
Like let's ignore certain elements.
962
00:36:03.085 --> 00:36:05.885
But like in a lot of ways, I'd almost rather be Williams
963
00:36:06.515 --> 00:36:10.805
than Aston because Aston admitted they started late
964
00:36:10.925 --> 00:36:13.165
'cause their wind tunnel and everything wasn't up, uh, in
965
00:36:13.165 --> 00:36:15.525
until April when everyone else started working on the 26
966
00:36:15.525 --> 00:36:17.925
cars in January, they showed up to the test,
967
00:36:17.925 --> 00:36:19.725
they got 61 laps, right?
968
00:36:19.905 --> 00:36:22.045
But that 61 laps on the car
969
00:36:22.185 --> 00:36:24.325
and the engine in the power unit, right?
970
00:36:24.675 --> 00:36:26.685
Whereas Williams has the benefit
971
00:36:26.705 --> 00:36:27.965
of having a Mercedes power unit.
972
00:36:28.025 --> 00:36:30.165
So they, between their three other teams, they got
973
00:36:31.205 --> 00:36:33.365
thousands plus lapse done.
974
00:36:33.365 --> 00:36:36.205
Yeah. So like Williams I think is almost in a better po like
975
00:36:36.415 --> 00:36:39.245
61 laps on the, on the car on the chassis.
976
00:36:39.305 --> 00:36:41.845
Is that that big of a handicap compared to,
977
00:36:42.565 --> 00:36:46.085
I think the big, the bigger issue is if you are a one,
978
00:36:46.465 --> 00:36:48.445
you know, essentially you are, you're a one car team.
979
00:36:48.665 --> 00:36:51.605
So you are a one engine, a one car, one engine team,
980
00:36:51.605 --> 00:36:53.445
you know, like you're an Audi, right?
981
00:36:54.025 --> 00:36:55.365
And you've, that's tough.
982
00:36:55.365 --> 00:36:56.805
Got one engine, you are an Aston
983
00:36:56.805 --> 00:36:58.285
and you've got the Honda Power Unit.
984
00:36:58.665 --> 00:37:00.325
That's tough, right? For both those
985
00:37:00.325 --> 00:37:01.445
teams, that's really, really tough.
986
00:37:01.825 --> 00:37:03.805
Um, even for Red Bull, you've only got your two teams
987
00:37:03.805 --> 00:37:05.805
with the, with the Red Bull Powertrain, Ford,
988
00:37:06.005 --> 00:37:07.285
whatever we're calling it powertrain in the back.
989
00:37:07.285 --> 00:37:10.765
That's tough. Um, so Mercedes will obviously come out of
990
00:37:10.765 --> 00:37:12.605
that first week very, very happy.
991
00:37:13.265 --> 00:37:15.045
Um, yes, Ferrari had the,
992
00:37:15.045 --> 00:37:17.525
the headline time supposedly, although we don't really know.
993
00:37:17.915 --> 00:37:20.085
Yeah. You know, who knows.
994
00:37:20.085 --> 00:37:21.285
Let's wait until we get to proper
995
00:37:21.285 --> 00:37:23.605
testing and see what's what. Alright,
996
00:37:23.605 --> 00:37:24.605
We gotta let you go.
997
00:37:24.605 --> 00:37:25.325
Two quick questions. Will
998
00:37:25.325 --> 00:37:27.325
Lewis Hamilton winner race this year? God, I
999
00:37:27.325 --> 00:37:28.325
Hope so.
1000
00:37:28.325 --> 00:37:29.565
Will George Russell be world champion? God,
1001
00:37:29.605 --> 00:37:30.605
I hope not.
1002
00:37:32.935 --> 00:37:35.085
buddy. Thank you so much for filling in.
1003
00:37:35.265 --> 00:37:36.605
Uh, we're stick around everybody.
1004
00:37:36.605 --> 00:37:37.605
We're gonna, we're gonna come back
1005
00:37:37.605 --> 00:37:39.045
for a little bit more, but Will's gotta run.
1006
00:37:39.185 --> 00:37:41.245
Uh, appreciate you man. We'll see you in a few weeks. .
1007
00:37:44.905 --> 00:37:46.805
Oh, will I love Will.
1008
00:37:47.435 --> 00:37:50.245
He's, uh, always a good addition tip. Pretty much. I didn't
1009
00:37:50.445 --> 00:37:51.445
Anything.
1010
00:37:51.445 --> 00:37:52.525
I didn't know he had a heart out, but I have no regrets.
1011
00:37:52.645 --> 00:37:53.725
I like just talking to that
1012
00:37:53.725 --> 00:37:54.725
guy.
, .
1013
00:37:55.995 --> 00:37:58.485
Yeah, that was a, that was a funny departure as well.
1014
00:37:58.635 --> 00:38:03.005
Yeah, man. So, uh, some, some news we didn't get around to,
1015
00:38:03.425 --> 00:38:07.005
uh, obviously the announcement of dc which was, you know,
1016
00:38:07.525 --> 00:38:09.085
Well, we mentioned it on the show week. I dunno if
1017
00:38:09.085 --> 00:38:12.045
We didn't get around to it or if we didn't know right. ?
1018
00:38:12.355 --> 00:38:14.205
Well, no, I meant in this last conversation
1019
00:38:14.205 --> 00:38:16.085
with we Oh yeah, we knew with that.
1020
00:38:16.105 --> 00:38:18.445
We didn't know last week when, you know,
1021
00:38:18.625 --> 00:38:19.965
it came up or at least I
1022
00:38:19.965 --> 00:38:21.205
didn't know. I don't know what said,
1023
00:38:21.235 --> 00:38:22.925
I'll say there were, there were two things
1024
00:38:23.685 --> 00:38:26.565
I would've said I was certain of last week.
1025
00:38:27.165 --> 00:38:29.005
I would've said I was certain that I was gonna go see a
1026
00:38:29.005 --> 00:38:31.045
rocket launch and I would've said I was certain
1027
00:38:31.075 --> 00:38:34.085
that I would not see a race in DC this year.
1028
00:38:34.745 --> 00:38:37.125
And so I was wrong on both . So ,
1029
00:38:37.835 --> 00:38:39.485
Like, so is, was the launch
1030
00:38:39.485 --> 00:38:40.845
scrubbed 'cause of temperatures?
1031
00:38:40.875 --> 00:38:42.805
It's pushed to earliest is March,
1032
00:38:42.945 --> 00:38:46.485
but then like I'm Alex's guest and it's all race weekends.
1033
00:38:46.485 --> 00:38:48.005
Yeah. So unless it gets pushed to April,
1034
00:38:48.075 --> 00:38:49.405
there's, that's not gonna happen.
1035
00:38:50.145 --> 00:38:52.245
Uh, for, for me, the rocket, it'll still go
1036
00:38:52.425 --> 00:38:54.605
and like obviously with rockets, just
1037
00:38:54.605 --> 00:38:55.805
to briefly touch on this,
1038
00:38:55.805 --> 00:38:58.005
because I know everybody wants to hear about dc These are,
1039
00:38:58.015 --> 00:39:00.645
these are rules and policies that are written and,
1040
00:39:00.745 --> 00:39:01.845
and blood and tragedy.
1041
00:39:02.015 --> 00:39:04.645
Right? They're going to do everything they can to make sure
1042
00:39:04.645 --> 00:39:06.085
that this rocket is going
1043
00:39:06.085 --> 00:39:09.045
to be launched safely as they should.
1044
00:39:09.425 --> 00:39:11.965
So they, they had a, they had a hydrogen leak.
1045
00:39:12.585 --> 00:39:14.605
Uh, they had a hydrogen leak in the wet dress.
1046
00:39:15.185 --> 00:39:16.645
It was with intolerable limits,
1047
00:39:16.825 --> 00:39:19.165
but they stopped, they tried to fix it, they kept going,
1048
00:39:19.195 --> 00:39:22.445
they started again, stopped, fixed it, fully filled it,
1049
00:39:22.445 --> 00:39:24.965
but then it was still leaking after it was filled.
1050
00:39:25.345 --> 00:39:27.725
So they aborted the wet dress with like five
1051
00:39:27.825 --> 00:39:31.325
and a half minutes left, which sucks.
1052
00:39:31.865 --> 00:39:35.445
But obviously they're going to to do things. Yeah. Yes.
1053
00:39:35.625 --> 00:39:36.725
As safely as possible.
1054
00:39:37.165 --> 00:39:38.165
I mean, you said super morbidly.
1055
00:39:38.165 --> 00:39:40.485
I wish they would've taken my schedule into account, um,
1056
00:39:40.885 --> 00:39:41.885
A little more.
1057
00:39:41.885 --> 00:39:42.925
You said it kind of morbidly the way you described it,
1058
00:39:42.925 --> 00:39:44.485
but it's also just like, dude, it's a lot of time
1059
00:39:44.485 --> 00:39:46.685
and money has also gone into launching this thing.
1060
00:39:46.915 --> 00:39:48.445
Yeah. And uh, but I mean, if you look at
1061
00:39:48.825 --> 00:39:50.765
No people history of nasa, like
1062
00:39:50.905 --> 00:39:54.805
Yes,
The Apollo one challenger, like the, these, these,
1063
00:39:55.515 --> 00:39:57.005
they exist for a reason. I'm
1064
00:39:57.005 --> 00:39:58.885
Gonna, dude, I'm gonna look at it the other way though.
1065
00:39:59.005 --> 00:40:00.485
I mean, if you look at the history of nasa,
1066
00:40:00.615 --> 00:40:02.685
their track record is actually pretty impressive.
1067
00:40:02.715 --> 00:40:04.885
True. When you compare to other space programs. True.
1068
00:40:04.885 --> 00:40:08.445
So, uh, credit to all those people and all the hard work
1069
00:40:08.625 --> 00:40:11.085
and minus, you know, the few tragedies that
1070
00:40:11.085 --> 00:40:12.565
that organization has faced.
1071
00:40:12.745 --> 00:40:14.485
Anyway, I am bummed for you.
1072
00:40:14.865 --> 00:40:17.725
Um, I feel slightly less bad now that I got overlooked
1073
00:40:17.725 --> 00:40:19.165
because, you know, I'm not, you know,
1074
00:40:19.165 --> 00:40:20.685
holding the right passport, uh, ,
1075
00:40:21.745 --> 00:40:23.325
but imbued for Hazel, Hazel,
1076
00:40:23.525 --> 00:40:25.365
Bum, Hazel, Hazel and I, she was a little bummed.
1077
00:40:25.745 --> 00:40:29.005
Um, we're still going, we're flying,
1078
00:40:29.005 --> 00:40:30.125
flying in and outta Orlando.
1079
00:40:30.545 --> 00:40:32.765
Uh, we're just gonna make a weekend of it.
1080
00:40:32.765 --> 00:40:35.965
Go to Universal Studios, check out Epic universe.
1081
00:40:36.075 --> 00:40:37.605
I've never been to Universal in Florida,
1082
00:40:37.705 --> 00:40:40.005
or at least not in like 30 years.
1083
00:40:40.415 --> 00:40:42.725
Great. So yeah, we're just gonna make a weekend of it.
1084
00:40:43.035 --> 00:40:44.125
Jealous. Jealous.
1085
00:40:44.325 --> 00:40:46.485
I wish I could come, I wish I could be there for that.
1086
00:40:46.665 --> 00:40:48.845
I'm pretty sure Disney allows Canadians, but whatever.
1087
00:40:49.995 --> 00:40:52.895
Well, we're going, we're gonna Universal, not Disney.
1088
00:40:53.125 --> 00:40:54.815
It's the same to me. I feel like it's
1089
00:40:54.815 --> 00:40:56.455
all owned by the same people. Uh,
1090
00:40:56.685 --> 00:40:58.895
Okay, so
DC So yeah, so big announcement
1091
00:40:58.955 --> 00:41:00.815
and I shock announcement.
1092
00:41:00.895 --> 00:41:03.335
I think, uh, coming out this last week,
1093
00:41:03.335 --> 00:41:04.855
this week, last week, I don't know what date.
1094
00:41:04.855 --> 00:41:08.215
It's Tim recently, uh, adding a race to the schedule
1095
00:41:08.635 --> 00:41:12.615
and adding one in a pretty cool place
1096
00:41:12.615 --> 00:41:15.335
to go racing it, it, the way it all came about.
1097
00:41:15.545 --> 00:41:17.135
Super weird, super bizarre.
1098
00:41:17.235 --> 00:41:18.415
But I think fundamentally
1099
00:41:18.565 --> 00:41:21.775
what I'm focusing on in this whole thing is we've been
1100
00:41:21.775 --> 00:41:24.295
asking for more races on the calendar.
1101
00:41:24.555 --> 00:41:27.775
You look at the races that we've added recently, the likes
1102
00:41:27.775 --> 00:41:29.775
of, you know, Nashville when it was a street race.
1103
00:41:30.195 --> 00:41:31.935
Uh, now we've got Arlington, you know,
1104
00:41:31.935 --> 00:41:33.870
we're doing Markham this year as a new street race.
1105
00:41:34.755 --> 00:41:36.165
This is what fans want.
1106
00:41:36.335 --> 00:41:39.965
These, these are events that go well that, uh,
1107
00:41:40.025 --> 00:41:42.365
are well attended, that put on a good show,
1108
00:41:42.565 --> 00:41:43.885
a good event over the course
1109
00:41:43.905 --> 00:41:45.485
of the three day weekend or whatever.
1110
00:41:45.985 --> 00:41:48.125
And you know, it's gonna be one of the coolest backdrops to,
1111
00:41:48.265 --> 00:41:49.725
uh, to, to do it at.
1112
00:41:49.825 --> 00:41:53.445
So I hope that it all goes through. I don't know.
1113
00:41:53.555 --> 00:41:56.165
I've honestly genuinely not kept up.
1114
00:41:56.195 --> 00:41:57.805
I've been pretty busy the last couple days.
1115
00:41:58.285 --> 00:42:00.405
I don't know where it actually all stands.
1116
00:42:00.765 --> 00:42:02.245
I don't know what executive orders mean.
1117
00:42:02.605 --> 00:42:04.205
I don't know if that means it's a done deal
1118
00:42:04.225 --> 00:42:06.005
or if there's still some things that have to clear it.
1119
00:42:06.005 --> 00:42:08.205
Tim, maybe you can answer that part. All I
1120
00:42:08.205 --> 00:42:09.205
Know is no idea.
1121
00:42:09.235 --> 00:42:10.405
Okay. Alright. So I
1122
00:42:10.405 --> 00:42:11.925
Can, can, I'm sorry I can't go back
1123
00:42:11.925 --> 00:42:14.205
and point to the last race that was done
1124
00:42:14.265 --> 00:42:15.925
by via executive order.
1125
00:42:16.585 --> 00:42:17.845
That's because normally you're good at that stuff.
1126
00:42:18.555 --> 00:42:19.565
Just look it up, would you?
1127
00:42:19.565 --> 00:42:22.365
That's just never happened. Uh, so I don't
1128
00:42:22.365 --> 00:42:23.365
know.
,
1129
00:42:24.045 --> 00:42:25.845
I hope it happens and I hope it's something that's,
1130
00:42:25.845 --> 00:42:28.205
you know, that's not just a one-off, you know,
1131
00:42:28.525 --> 00:42:31.365
because of the 250th anniversary and all that.
1132
00:42:31.365 --> 00:42:33.725
Like, I hope this becomes another staple event in the
1133
00:42:33.885 --> 00:42:36.605
calendar because again, it's a cool place to go race
1134
00:42:37.025 --> 00:42:39.085
and for decades to come, you know?
1135
00:42:39.665 --> 00:42:42.645
Uh, I, everybody can come out
1136
00:42:42.645 --> 00:42:44.765
and enjoy a motor race, you know,
1137
00:42:45.225 --> 00:42:46.285
uh, in the nation's capital.
1138
00:42:46.385 --> 00:42:48.845
So we'll see a lot of questions still
1139
00:42:48.845 --> 00:42:50.125
to come about this whole thing.
1140
00:42:50.585 --> 00:42:53.605
Um, logistically I
1141
00:42:54.465 --> 00:42:57.525
cringe thinking of what goes into making that race happen.
1142
00:42:57.955 --> 00:42:59.445
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
1143
00:42:59.605 --> 00:43:01.765
I know how disruptive it is when like one member
1144
00:43:01.765 --> 00:43:05.085
of the executive branch comes to the 500, right?
1145
00:43:05.085 --> 00:43:06.805
Like it's a big deal and it stopped.
1146
00:43:06.805 --> 00:43:09.805
It complicates logistics significantly.
1147
00:43:11.045 --> 00:43:14.805
Bringing everybody from the indie car world to
1148
00:43:16.065 --> 00:43:18.205
the vicinity of a lot of important people.
1149
00:43:18.865 --> 00:43:23.245
The, the only thing I'll say is like there pretty used
1150
00:43:23.245 --> 00:43:24.925
to it in DC Right?
1151
00:43:25.065 --> 00:43:27.325
That's a
Good point. Like . That's a good point. .
1152
00:43:28.705 --> 00:43:30.165
That's a good point. But like, not,
1153
00:43:30.345 --> 00:43:31.885
not not like this though.
1154
00:43:31.915 --> 00:43:35.165
Like there's a lot of like sports arenas
1155
00:43:35.165 --> 00:43:36.245
that they have a good handle on,
1156
00:43:36.265 --> 00:43:38.325
but like, this is building something, you know,
1157
00:43:38.525 --> 00:43:39.725
I No, I mean they're used
1158
00:43:39.725 --> 00:43:43.045
to traffic disruptions and things like that. Oh,
1159
00:43:43.045 --> 00:43:44.045
Sorry,
Sorry.
1160
00:43:44.125 --> 00:43:45.125
Whenever. Oh yeah. No, I don't care about that
1161
00:43:45.125 --> 00:43:47.125
Local, any of those members of the executive,
1162
00:43:47.625 --> 00:43:48.885
No locals bitch about traffic.
1163
00:43:48.885 --> 00:43:49.965
Every time there's a street race,
1164
00:43:50.045 --> 00:43:51.085
I don't really actually care about
1165
00:43:51.085 --> 00:43:52.285
that, but we'll see. Unless
1166
00:43:52.285 --> 00:43:54.085
You're a listener, then we really do care about
1167
00:43:54.085 --> 00:43:55.285
you, but not anybody else.
1168
00:43:55.385 --> 00:43:57.445
Unless you're listening to the show while you're stuck in
1169
00:43:57.445 --> 00:43:58.685
traffic, then well,
1170
00:43:58.785 --> 00:43:59.785
You just got more time.
1171
00:43:59.785 --> 00:44:02.285
We got a long backlog. We're almost 500 episodes.
1172
00:44:02.625 --> 00:44:05.685
That's so insane to me. I'm like kind of upset about that
1173
00:44:06.085 --> 00:44:07.085
Actually.
1174
00:44:07.085 --> 00:44:07.285
I still weird. Don't have a helmet.
1175
00:44:07.425 --> 00:44:09.365
Do you have a Rossi helmet?
No.
1176
00:44:09.675 --> 00:44:10.685
That, that's why. What? I'm insane.
1177
00:44:10.685 --> 00:44:12.725
So why, why, why are you giving me all this flack? Because
1178
00:44:12.725 --> 00:44:13.725
Alex isn't here.
1179
00:44:13.905 --> 00:44:15.765
Oh, well you had giving me flack when we were
1180
00:44:15.765 --> 00:44:17.205
interviewing Dario too, when Alex
1181
00:44:17.265 --> 00:44:18.265
Wasn't here.
1182
00:44:18.505 --> 00:44:20.685
I'm, you better give Alex flack next week.
1183
00:44:20.865 --> 00:44:21.925
Oh, I do. That's all I'm saying.
1184
00:44:22.405 --> 00:44:24.285
I do.
That's what I'm saying. Okay, . Alright.
1185
00:44:24.555 --> 00:44:26.925
Just making sure. Do you care what year it's from?
1186
00:44:27.325 --> 00:44:28.765
I sure don't,
Because I'm trying to think
1187
00:44:28.765 --> 00:44:30.485
of like duplicates that I've got
1188
00:44:30.875 --> 00:44:32.845
that maybe I could give you. I'll keep working on that.
1189
00:44:33.025 --> 00:44:34.405
One goes missing while you're moving.
1190
00:44:34.545 --> 00:44:36.445
You know, who really cares? Who would notice?
1191
00:44:36.685 --> 00:44:38.565
I would notice Tim . I took photographs
1192
00:44:38.665 --> 00:44:40.685
of every single one of them from three different angles
1193
00:44:40.785 --> 00:44:43.965
and they are all documented and I know exactly what's where.
1194
00:44:44.185 --> 00:44:46.245
And yes, I would notice very much so.
1195
00:44:46.665 --> 00:44:48.525
But that said, in the new house,
1196
00:44:49.085 --> 00:44:52.725
I do not have an office like this with like floor
1197
00:44:52.725 --> 00:44:55.725
to ceiling bookshelves and lots of space to put helmets.
1198
00:44:56.545 --> 00:45:01.515
So it's gonna have to be like a rotating cast, you know,
1199
00:45:01.715 --> 00:45:03.915
a rotating exhibit, I think, which means
1200
00:45:03.915 --> 00:45:06.675
that there's gonna be a lot sitting in a closet somewhere in
1201
00:45:06.675 --> 00:45:08.515
the house, which I don't love the idea of.
1202
00:45:08.935 --> 00:45:11.435
So maybe it's better I spread them out.
1203
00:45:11.645 --> 00:45:13.915
There you go. You can, I'll just put a little sign
1204
00:45:13.915 --> 00:45:16.195
that says this helmet is on loan. Yeah,
1205
00:45:16.195 --> 00:45:17.195
There you go.
1206
00:45:17.195 --> 00:45:18.875
Yeah, I'll put it on low into the Durham Museum.
1207
00:45:19.345 --> 00:45:21.315
Yeah. Sorry to get off topic,
1208
00:45:21.455 --> 00:45:24.155
but, um, yeah, I, I don't know.
1209
00:45:24.555 --> 00:45:27.835
I I think a street race in DC would be cool.
1210
00:45:28.115 --> 00:45:29.355
I think that, you know,
1211
00:45:29.355 --> 00:45:31.555
people have been trying very hard for that.
1212
00:45:32.035 --> 00:45:34.235
I will say, when I first saw the announcement last week,
1213
00:45:34.275 --> 00:45:35.595
I thought, well, that's not gonna happen.
1214
00:45:36.495 --> 00:45:37.635
Now. I'm leaning way more
1215
00:45:37.635 --> 00:45:38.955
towards, yeah, this is gonna happen.
1216
00:45:39.345 --> 00:45:41.275
Like this is, um,
1217
00:45:41.705 --> 00:45:43.635
it's surprising thing, but I hope for the best.
1218
00:45:44.395 --> 00:45:46.035
I think what's important to remember is
1219
00:45:46.685 --> 00:45:49.475
while the announcement I think was a bit of a surprise
1220
00:45:49.475 --> 00:45:52.195
to people, the idea was not right.
1221
00:45:52.195 --> 00:45:54.315
Like, this has been something that's been talked about
1222
00:45:54.455 --> 00:45:55.915
behind the scenes for a while.
1223
00:45:55.985 --> 00:45:58.235
Like I've, I've heard rumors of this, you know,
1224
00:45:58.465 --> 00:45:59.465
Time.
1225
00:45:59.465 --> 00:46:00.195
I mean, Mark Miles addressed it months ago,
1226
00:46:00.605 --> 00:46:01.605
Right?
1227
00:46:01.605 --> 00:46:03.875
So yes. That, that part is,
1228
00:46:03.995 --> 00:46:05.715
I think is the, is the strange part.
1229
00:46:05.775 --> 00:46:07.715
But I think I've got, you know, the,
1230
00:46:07.755 --> 00:46:09.635
I I think people should have confidence in the fact
1231
00:46:09.635 --> 00:46:12.195
that like, this idea didn't come up last week
1232
00:46:12.295 --> 00:46:15.595
and we're trying to like, make it happen in a couple months.
1233
00:46:16.065 --> 00:46:18.835
This has been an idea that's been on the radar for a while.
1234
00:46:19.055 --> 00:46:23.555
And so a lot of that sort of, uh, the due diligence and the,
1235
00:46:23.555 --> 00:46:24.675
and the work you gotta do on the,
1236
00:46:24.675 --> 00:46:26.515
on the front end has already been done.
1237
00:46:26.815 --> 00:46:29.995
And now they're just, you know, trying to make it happen.
1238
00:46:30.295 --> 00:46:31.555
So we'll see.
1239
00:46:31.615 --> 00:46:34.035
Are you gonna, I mean it's, I I think I read somewhere
1240
00:46:34.035 --> 00:46:35.435
that they're gonna make it free to the public.
1241
00:46:35.465 --> 00:46:37.235
Like the race is just gonna be open. That's what
1242
00:46:37.235 --> 00:46:38.635
I heard. Yeah. That's
1243
00:46:38.635 --> 00:46:39.515
Kind of cool. Yeah.
1244
00:46:40.115 --> 00:46:41.395
I mean, , that is
1245
00:46:41.395 --> 00:46:42.835
objectively pretty cool. It's always free
1246
00:46:43.315 --> 00:46:44.315
first.
1247
00:46:44.315 --> 00:46:47.035
It's always free. Year two will be a expensive ticket.
1248
00:46:47.255 --> 00:46:48.875
No, I'm just kidding. But, uh,
1249
00:46:49.105 --> 00:46:50.675
yeah, so we'll see how that goes. It's the,
1250
00:46:50.675 --> 00:46:51.875
The inverse of Nashville.
1251
00:46:52.055 --> 00:46:53.955
It is the inverse of Yes, exactly right.
1252
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Speaking of Nashville, um, we'll cover that next week.
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We've, uh, we've got our time for the day, so we'll, uh,
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we'll see you guys in a few days.
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This has been off track with Hinch
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and Rossi Off Track is part
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