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<v Speaker 1>This is off track.</v>

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Scott Dixon here at Media Today.

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Is this your first thing for media today?

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<v Speaker 2>You start, uh, nah,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Because you just kind of</v>

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started though, right? Just started.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the early site. I like it in the first hour. So</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're still fresh.</v>

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I'm pretty fresh. Okay. You haven't been asked the same, but

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<v Speaker 2>It's been like the 24 hours</v>

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of thinking about this whole episode

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going on that we have to do today. You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've been thinking about</v>

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this for 24 hours. Yeah. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>Thinks about the media day .</v>

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Or maybe it's just me. Maybe that's my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's, this is why you,</v>

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this is why you go into car racing.

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You're just, just so jazzed about the, and

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<v Speaker 2>Get media.</v>

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I get get paid for this and race for free, man.

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That's how it goes. .

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<v Speaker 1>You get paid. Uh, do you get paid per word?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because</v>
<v Speaker 1>I don't That'd be,</v>

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that'd be a cool way to earn a living.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Maybe start talking a little bit more too .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're obviously just paying you too much</v>

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because you don't talk that much. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I dunno about that.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's not how it</v>
<v Speaker 2>Goes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right. Well we still have the, the fresh face.</v>

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Scott Dixon early in his media day commitment, um,

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not your first media day.

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You've done this a few times. Um, on Sunday,

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you will start your 408th IndyCar race.

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Yeah. That's a lot. That's so

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<v Speaker 2>Consecutive, right?</v>

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I think it's more than that. Maybe. I don't know. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's</v>
<v Speaker 2>Total.</v>

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That's the total. Yeah. You're consecutive.

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That sounds, that sounds better.

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Lower than, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But it is gonna be the most of all time you are now,</v>

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as of Sunday, the most experienced

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IndyCar driver in history. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's a good thing</v>

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or a bad thing either, .

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I don't know. You know, I think, um, let's keep it positive.

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Yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's a great thing.

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You know, obviously longevity.

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Um, had a cool video, uh, message from Mario who, uh,

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who I'm surpassing, which is, which is very cool.

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Um, and which we're very lucky to have the likes of,

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you know, him and, and, uh, AJ as well.

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Still coming to most of the races, which is really cool.

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And you couldn't have a bigger

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and better advocate for the sport.

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So, um, yeah, I dunno,

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not really thinking about my 408 star

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apart from trying to win it. Fair

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<v Speaker 1>Enough.</v>

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Yeah. But I'm sure it's one of those things you'll look back

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on and have a little bit of, uh, you know,

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fun memories over, especially getting to do it here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.</v>

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The timing is, uh, quite crazy.

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Um, didn't really know about it, I think until maybe St.

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Pete or somewhere around there

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where somebody had mentioned it.

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So, um, yeah, the timing is, is crazy, man. .

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<v Speaker 1>It's sweet. Someone mentioned it at St. Pete. Yeah.</v>

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So before the year started, you had no idea

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that you were gonna break this record this year?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't even know that the, that, yeah,</v>

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the record was even close.

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I had no idea, man. .

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that kind of makes sense.</v>

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'cause when you think about it, I mean, Mario raced

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until he was 53, 54.

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Yeah. One of those two. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some time left. I was gonna say,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I mean,</v>
<v Speaker 2>Nine years or eight</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Years.</v>

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How, how much do you wanna extend this record ?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go for that. Let's try that.</v>

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You know, no, who's got the record for that?

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It's gotta be AJ maybe, what was he,

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56 or seven for the oldest seven or something?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know that one. I don't know.</v>

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That's pretty, I'll have to look that one up,

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but I mean, Elio's gonna

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try to break that one first, you know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>True. He's got</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A couple years on you's</v>
<v Speaker 2>15 now he's 50.</v>

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Allegedly 50 .

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<v Speaker 1>He's</v>
<v Speaker 2>More like 52</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Or 53.</v>

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So Yeah, I've seen a couple different

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versions of his passport. So

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<v Speaker 2>That story might change</v>

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here pretty shortly, I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He's got a couple, a couple black market</v>

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passports that he is been going wrapped.

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Scott, the, uh, a lot of the talk this year, uh, around,

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around the speedway has been with the hybrid

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and kind of how it's changed

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the handling of the cars a little bit.

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Made it a little trickier, I think to some degree.

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You've got, you know, as much, almost

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as much experience as anyone around here.

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Elio's again got you. By a few. Yeah.

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But are you finding that it is a kind

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of big step from last year and,

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and definitely trickier to drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's definitely trickier.</v>

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I think the, you know, we've seen some big crashes

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and I think, you know, part

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and parcel with that is that once it kind of does get away,

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it's, you know, it's a big pendulum, you know,

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kind of like feeling back there.

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It's really hard to kind of recover from it.

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Um, you know, I think in any time when you're getting ready

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for qualifying, you definitely, uh,

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you know, explore those limits.

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And we had some moments, but luckily

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they were, they were kind of smaller.

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Uh, one, the workload is a lot higher.

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Uh, luckily in qualifying, the strategy

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that we picked was kind of low on the workload,

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which was, which was nice.

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Uh, but in the race, you know, you're doing two deploy.

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You're doing it every time outta two, you know,

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you're regioning every time at three,

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and then vice versa on the front strai.

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So, uh, it, it's pretty full on.

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But definitely has changed the car.

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I think in the recent years that we've had.

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of changed it a little bit, but not as much.

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Uh, but this one has been a pretty big shift for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You've driven, I don't know how many different types</v>

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of chassis iterations of IndyCar at the Speedway.

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Do you have one that's a favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, probably not this one. .</v>
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<v Speaker 2>It's just the car has evolved to being quite heavy.</v>

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Right. You know, the power is the same

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or less, you know, it's, it's, um,

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they're not very fast cars, you know, they're kind of more

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of a junior category car now.

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I think even a lot of the road courses

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and street courses were maybe a second

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or two faster than any lights, you know, where they,

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when I first came in, we were

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probably 12 seconds a lot faster in, in the early days.

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So, um, as far as 500 cars, um, you know, I didn't come here

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until the first time in 2003.

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So that I, that generation was quite fun too.

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'cause you had a mix of, you know, Telara GForce, right.

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Uh, you were able to, as a team, work on kind of small boxes

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where there was fences on the front, rear wings to floors

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to wheel, you know, flips and all those kinds of things.

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And it was quite fun to go through that process.

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You know, now it's pretty locked down, which is great

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as well, uh,

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because the competition is just through the roof

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and it's very hard to find those small details.

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So, I don't know. I, you know, through the earlier era,

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I think was, was a little more fun

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and a little more different just

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because every time you got

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in the car, it was something kind of new.

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Yeah. Um, but I really do hope, you know,

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I dunno when the new car's gonna come, they're talking 27,

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you know, that might be 28.

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Hopefully I'm still racing at that point, .

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Um, but I think that the, the cars are definitely in need

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of, of being lighter and definitely a lot more power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And like, I mean, back in those days you could,</v>

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you could set your car up

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and trim to away, uh, where you really try

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to separate from the pack and, and pull those leads.

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You can't really do that now, can you?

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<v Speaker 2>No. You know, you might have the scenario</v>

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where you can maybe break away a little bit

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and then have some lap traffic that you can kind of peel

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through and create that separation.

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And, and maybe over a long green stint you'll see it.

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But yeah, the year I won, you know, uh, we were able

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to trim way out and, and, uh, get the break on the restart

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and then, you know, just pull away, which, you know,

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nobody can probably in,

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in recent history can remember situations like that.

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So, um, you know, maybe if they bring the new car in,

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it has like a bigger rear wing, you know, right now we kind

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of just have a bit of a trim tab.

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Yeah. , uh, you know, that kind of does a little bit.

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And I asked, actually, I said,

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what happens if we take that thing off?

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Yeah, yeah. Like, can we qualify without it

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and, you know, do a different configuration.

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But, um, yeah, the, the times have changed,

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but I think the racing is, is better than ever, man.

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Like, at this place. It's crazy. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And, you know,</v>

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the qualifying this year was a little bit more exciting,

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I think, than what we've seen.

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Yeah. Just in terms of the balance,

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getting the car in that, that sweet spot.

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But also, you actually sort of touched on it,

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keeping it simple in terms of the procedure inside the car.

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Yeah. There's so many things that the drivers can do now.

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So you're saying you guys took, took the opportunity

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to maybe like, throw some of those away

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and kind of keep it a little more

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simple from inside the cockpit?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I don't know whether it was luck</v>

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or not, but for us, that was actually the better strategy.

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Right. You know, you're fighting over hundreds

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of a mile an hour, uh,

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and, you know, it seemed like one side of, you know,

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the kind of, the garage was really stuck on one strategy

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earlier in the week, and then everybody kind of shifted,

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I think, to similar stuff that we were doing.

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Um, but yeah, you know, I've, I've forgotten to,

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you know, redo the weight jack.

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Right. , and luckily I've done it in corners

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where it didn't make too much of a difference.

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But we've seen, you know, even the likes

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of Carl Lawson testing where he

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forgot to do it went straight into the fence.

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So, you know, it's, it's, once you get one

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of those things in the sequence outta whack, it's,

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it's kind of hard to recover from.

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Right. So yeah, as they say, try and keep it simple, man.

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And, and, uh, that was definitely the way that we tried.

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And even I think in my last qualifying attempt,

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I didn't even have to shift, which was kind of nice too.

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So, , yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>Go, go flat, turn</v>
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and see who's waving and things like that. You know, ,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you, you know, you're, you have in Nessi,</v>

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two teammates in in Polo and, and Kevin Simpson.

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You got the technical partnership with MSR,

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with Felix and Marcus.

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Do those guys kinda look to you at a race like this

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with all your experience

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and say as much as the engineer will tell you, oh,

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well if you do this during qualifying and move this

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and switch this switch and flip this knob,

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or whatever, you might find one, 100th of a mile an hour.

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Yeah. Yeah. That gets drivers excited.

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But then you look over to the goat

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and he's like, not gonna do that. ,

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I'm gonna focus on driving the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Just turn left, man. Um,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do they kind of gravitate more towards you</v>

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or do they try to, you know, follow the engineer's path

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and go to that the last nth degree?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would still, I would still be fighting for that too.</v>

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You know, the, the weight jacket thing,

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I think over the four laps is maybe, is it a 10th

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of a mile an hour or something crazy?

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You know, I'm like, do we really need to bother with that?

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Right. 'cause if you forget it, then the car's destroyed.

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Right? So, um, but then you get into the thick of it

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and you, you know, you see it on the sermon and it's a gain,

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and you're like, yeah, I'm gonna do that as well.

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So it, it, it, it's the whole, you know, situation

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of just being extremely competitive and,

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and the whole group is that way.

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So, you know, uh, I think the,

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the team has done a real good job of, of the alliance

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that they have with MSR, uh, obviously, you know,

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two ex teammates that I had inside gsi.

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So it's been super easy.

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Um, you know, Alex has been off

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to a tremendous start this year.

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Uh, so no, it's, it's, it's a competitive environment

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that all of us push each other as much

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as, as any single person.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a, a second row start for the race this year.</v>

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Uh, you've, you've done it all.

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You've run the gamut here at the Speedway.

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Are you, are you at the point of your career

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and like, the level of experience that you've got

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where you kind of think there's not really much to plan.

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You're in a good spot, you're at the front ish, that's kind

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of where you want to get B lap one 50 anyway.

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Yeah. So is it sort of go

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through the motions, let the race play out?

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Or do you try to kind of map out sections of your race?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be leading by term one,</v>

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man, , I'm gonna jump the start. Jump

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<v Speaker 1>The, if you wanna go for it, let's go.</v>

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Um,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think the biggest thing I've learned, and</v>

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and probably the same for you, is

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that you just gotta be ready for change.

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Mm-hmm . You just gotta be on your toes, you know?

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I think you can't really, yeah.

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You visualize, you know, things that you're doing

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and seeing the check of flag first

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and the stops going well and all that kind of jazz.

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But ultimately, you know, I think you, if you go in

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with too much of a, of a set, uh, mindset, you know, of

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what you think's gonna happen

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and it changes, you know, what's the point of that?

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So, you know, I think the biggest thing for me is, is, is,

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is not really, you know, committing to too much.

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You know, I think we, we just have to be ready for change.

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And I think that's the same for everybody.

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You know, I think it's so many points during races.

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Did you think you had a chance?

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Maybe not, you know, you were gonna maybe finish top 10

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and then, you know, the CS part

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and the strategy you're on was, was gonna work, you know,

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last year I think we were on the perfect strategy

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and then, you know, we had that one caution

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and it kind of reset things

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and we just didn't have the speed.

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So, um, yeah, just let it play out, man. You've,

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<v Speaker 1>You've had this long storied career, you know,</v>

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accomplished so much

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and you've done it essentially all with one team. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I know throughout the years you've maybe had</v>

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conversations with other teams, maybe even came close

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to going somewhere else, I don't know.

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But with, you know, no, there's no end in sight

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for Scott Dix, and no one can see that.

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You know, people started asking you

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that question a few years ago,

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and then they just stopped asking, because you still win

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races, you still compete for championships in 500,

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so there's no point even discussing it.

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Do you see any point in your future maybe trying an indie

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car season with a different team?

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Or do you see your, your career ending with,

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with Chip Asse? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I dunno, it'd probably be,</v>

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that's probably an answer for Chill .

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I don't know. Um, you know, sometimes you are,

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you are forced out of what you would like to do,

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but, uh, you know, I've been part of this team now

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as the 24th season.

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Um, you know, it's, it's like family man.

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You know, I've spent more time with a lot of these,

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you know, boys

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and girls than I have with, with my own family.

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So, you know, for me, um, you know,

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there's still a lot to accomplish.

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You know, we've accomplished a lot, uh,

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you know, in the past years.

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But, um, no, you know, I think if, if you could pick

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and choose, you know, it would be to finish here.

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But, you know, nobody knows what, you know,

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next year is gonna bring, or the year after or,

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or what the scenarios are gonna be.

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So, yeah, we'll see. Man. Seventh

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<v Speaker 1>Title or second? 500,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Both .</v>

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Scott Dixon

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<v Speaker 1>Here, chosen New Garden Fresh again.</v>

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You're like the third person I think we've spoken to

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that's fresh from New York.

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What were you, what were you really doing in New Yeah.

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Well, the, the Meyer Shank guys went

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to SiriusXM's headquarters.

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Oh. So they did a little New York thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense. What</v>
<v Speaker 1>Were you there doing?</v>

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Just getting some, getting some nice dinner and Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>Little r and r.</v>

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Yeah. There's nowhere better than New York City

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for some rest and relaxation.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more.</v>
<v Speaker 3>Um, I, I went</v>

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and did a little fox circuit, which was Oh, cool.

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Which was good. Uh, we did some morning shows, um, as you,

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as you would guess in the morning.

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Yes. And then, uh, we did an activation with Macy's,

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which was, uh, pretty cool.

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We did this with Fox. We did this, you know,

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ridiculous, silly, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ethanol, fake</v>
<v Speaker 3>Ethanol commercial.</v>

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Yeah. . And then we did a, we did an activation at Macy's

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with it, which was fake, but it was, um, it was very cool.

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And then I got to throw out the first pitch at the

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Yankees stadium.

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Oh, nice. Pretty fun for me. I'm a big Yankees fan. Uhhuh .

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Honestly, I grew up in Nashville, Tennessee.

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Most people from Nashville,

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Tennessee are Braves fans from, from Atlanta.

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Really? Yes, because it's ver we're very close to

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta. It's the closest. Okay. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Closest to MOB team,</v>

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but I was always a Yankees guy, so, um, yeah,

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it was a pretty cool time in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see George? 'cause we</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Were, I didn't, no, he</v>
<v Speaker 1>Was here, I think. Right? I, I,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even text him.</v>

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I, yeah, . I was going to text him, and then I didn't.

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There you go. But I have his number now.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's cool. So, I mean,</v>

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you've thrown out many first pitches,

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I feel like, over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. A few.</v>
<v Speaker 1>But Yankees was,</v>

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is that number one? Is that,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's at the top by far.</v>

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You know, it's just like, first

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<v Speaker 1>Time you've done the Yankees, or</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You've done the Yankees.</v>

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First time I've done the Yankees. It's,

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but it's, it's the Yankees.

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It's, no, I'm with you. So Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from a town that has a baseball</v>

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team. Yeah, true. Right?

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<v Speaker 3>So like, that's the point. Yeah. Blue</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Jays is Blue Jays, but like Yeah.</v>

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I had more Yankees hats growing up than Blue Jay's hats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, I get it.</v>

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I mean, it's like, it's the pinstripes, it's the history.

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It's just, there's just something about it that's

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so iconic. Yeah. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>Love it.</v>

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Um, I do want to hear more about this

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activation of Macy's though.

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Yeah. So like, for those that haven't seen it,

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we had those commercials that Fox did the montage of,

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you know, Joseph and who he is.

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Part of it was this like mock cologne commercial, right.

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Called ethanol. Yeah.

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And so you guys, did you guys actually make a fragrance?

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Like what is, what was the popup? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Um, I, I would like to say we did, we did not. Okay. .</v>

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Okay. It would, it would be very strong , the fragrance.

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I was joking potent. I was joking around with it.

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I was like, you know, you just, you spray it

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and it just evaporates immediately.

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Like, it's just the essence of, of ethanol. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>Actual smell. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>It's just an, it's an essence of it. Right.</v>

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Um, but it was, it was really funny to make this piece,

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this is what it was born out of.

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You know, it came outta the commercial organically.

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We were, we, I told you about this. Yeah.

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We were shooting this commercial. We shot it very quick.

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It was like eight hours, six sets, just cranking through it.

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And this director that they had on, um,

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producing this young guy, really fun, really inter like,

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we got along very well and we got on this set.

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And it's just, it's an absurd set

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to film this little right piece for Right.

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For, for this 42nd commercial.

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This is gonna be like four seconds of it,

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and it's gonna be ridiculous looking.

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And I, I was laughing the whole time we were making it,

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and we just ended up ad-libbing like an hour

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and a half worth of stuff.

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And I was like, we have to make a solo

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commercial just for this.

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Right. There's a lot of stuff he didn't put in there

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that I would've liked to have seen. . I just thought like a

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<v Speaker 1>Blooper reel of it. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>They, they need to, I was just thinking like, you know,</v>

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ethanol, I was like saying, you know, it means it's,

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it's French and like, all these sort of things

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that are just ridiculous.

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Yeah. Um, we do need the blooper reel. Where is it?

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Fox Put it out. We,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make some calls. We'll find it. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>You, you can get it.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We'll find it.</v>

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Um, you've done a bunch of, so like, I mean,

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actually we talked about this, but when those commercials

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came out, they were in Super Bowl.

473
00:15:48.245 --> 00:15:50.045
They were, I mean, they were everywhere before St. Pete.

474
00:15:50.265 --> 00:15:53.165
And I think you were saying like, walking around Nashville,

475
00:15:53.985 --> 00:15:55.325
you were getting people being like, oh,

476
00:15:55.325 --> 00:15:56.685
that's the dude from the Super Bowl commercial.

477
00:15:56.685 --> 00:15:57.885
Like how cool was it to kind

478
00:15:57.885 --> 00:16:00.125
of see the profile bump just from that activate

479
00:16:00.125 --> 00:16:01.245
or that commercial, I guess?

480
00:16:01.795 --> 00:16:03.245
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was, it was noticeable.</v>

481
00:16:03.425 --> 00:16:05.365
Uh, I mean, oh my, oh my goodness.

482
00:16:05.445 --> 00:16:06.645
I don't know how you could get something

483
00:16:06.645 --> 00:16:07.725
more impactful right.

484
00:16:07.725 --> 00:16:09.125
Than the Super Bowl. Um,

485
00:16:09.225 --> 00:16:11.525
but Fox really leveraged e every bit

486
00:16:11.525 --> 00:16:12.965
of their platform, which was incredible.

487
00:16:13.585 --> 00:16:16.125
Um, I got out of a speeding ticket because of it.

488
00:16:16.355 --> 00:16:18.405
What, like, real story? Alright. Yeah. Let's hear this.

489
00:16:18.405 --> 00:16:21.005
Yeah, no, I was, I'm trying to think of the order of this.

490
00:16:21.145 --> 00:16:23.485
So I had to, what was I doing?

491
00:16:23.805 --> 00:16:25.605
I was in, I was testing somewhere.

492
00:16:26.195 --> 00:16:30.165
This was after, do you remember we did a call down in, uh,

493
00:16:30.165 --> 00:16:31.765
when I, when I was in Florida,

494
00:16:31.885 --> 00:16:33.485
I was doing a straight line test somewhere mm-hmm .

495
00:16:33.565 --> 00:16:36.205
And then I did a call with you guys Yes. On Ask Off Track.

496
00:16:36.205 --> 00:16:37.405
Yes. It was the first one. Yes.

497
00:16:37.585 --> 00:16:38.525
And we've been trying to do it forever.

498
00:16:38.745 --> 00:16:39.885
It was right after that.

499
00:16:39.985 --> 00:16:42.845
And then I had to go somewhere. I had to drive up north.

500
00:16:43.205 --> 00:16:45.165
I think I was driving to Sebring afterwards. Okay.

501
00:16:45.185 --> 00:16:46.525
And so I was on my way to Sebring

502
00:16:46.525 --> 00:16:47.965
to do the IndyCar preseason test.

503
00:16:48.025 --> 00:16:50.365
And I got, I got pulled over doing an illegal

504
00:16:50.425 --> 00:16:52.205
U-turn and all wasn't

505
00:16:52.205 --> 00:16:53.205
<v Speaker 1>Even speeding.</v>

506
00:16:53.205 --> 00:16:54.125
It wasn't even speeding the U-turn. It

507
00:16:54.125 --> 00:16:55.325
<v Speaker 3>Was an illegal U-turn in an intersection.</v>

508
00:16:55.345 --> 00:16:57.525
And I was like, this guy was just like sniping people. Yeah.

509
00:16:57.525 --> 00:16:59.605
Yeah. Like he knew what he was looking for. Yeah. Yeah.

510
00:16:59.745 --> 00:17:02.685
And I, he was way up the road from the intersection,

511
00:17:02.705 --> 00:17:04.085
so it was very clever of him.

512
00:17:04.505 --> 00:17:07.045
And, you know, he pulls me over, he starts talking to me

513
00:17:07.065 --> 00:17:08.445
and right away I get the vibe.

514
00:17:08.545 --> 00:17:10.525
I'm like, I'm a hundred percent getting a ticket. Yeah.

515
00:17:10.685 --> 00:17:12.725
like, this guy's just trapped me sometimes. You just know.

516
00:17:12.755 --> 00:17:14.645
Yeah. I was like, he doesn't care how I sound

517
00:17:14.705 --> 00:17:16.125
or how polite, like I'm getting a ticket.

518
00:17:16.275 --> 00:17:17.685
Then he comes back, it took him a while.

519
00:17:17.705 --> 00:17:19.085
I'm like, oh, I'm definitely getting a ticket.

520
00:17:19.085 --> 00:17:20.765
You like, you know, he is like, he's gotta fill

521
00:17:20.765 --> 00:17:21.765
<v Speaker 1>It out and Yeah.</v>

522
00:17:21.985 --> 00:17:24.725
<v Speaker 3>Um, you like</v>
<v Speaker 1>Just Googling the commercial on his</v>

523
00:17:24.725 --> 00:17:25.725
phone?
<v Speaker 3>.</v>

524
00:17:25.725 --> 00:17:28.205
Yeah. He comes back and he's like, you know,

525
00:17:28.205 --> 00:17:30.485
it took me a minute, uh, to figure out who you were. .

526
00:17:31.205 --> 00:17:33.125
He's like, you're IndyCar driver Joseph Negar aren't you?

527
00:17:33.125 --> 00:17:36.005
And I was like, uh, yeah. I say he came back serious too.

528
00:17:36.185 --> 00:17:37.445
So I was like, ready to get the ticket.

529
00:17:38.165 --> 00:17:39.405
I was gonna be a smart ass back.

530
00:17:39.765 --> 00:17:41.445
I was gonna be like, how many people?

531
00:17:41.715 --> 00:17:43.085
Like, I knew I was gonna get a ticket,

532
00:17:43.145 --> 00:17:45.285
so I was gonna almost get in trouble with a cop to be like,

533
00:17:45.345 --> 00:17:47.165
how many people are you getting at this intersection?

534
00:17:47.175 --> 00:17:49.490
Right, right. And then like, he blindsides me with this

535
00:17:49.505 --> 00:17:51.725
and he just, he just said, Hey, be safe.

536
00:17:51.725 --> 00:17:54.005
Have a great day, . And I was like, cool. Alright.

537
00:17:54.145 --> 00:17:55.685
All right. I guess this worked like that.

538
00:17:55.685 --> 00:17:56.725
The only way I think he knew

539
00:17:56.725 --> 00:17:57.765
me was because of the commercial.

540
00:17:58.305 --> 00:17:59.765
<v Speaker 1>You don't know that. I mean,</v>
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Maybe not.</v>

541
00:17:59.875 --> 00:18:01.525
<v Speaker 1>There's not a racing in Florida. It</v>

542
00:18:01.525 --> 00:18:02.805
<v Speaker 3>Just seemed like coincidental.</v>

543
00:18:02.805 --> 00:18:04.365
Like there was a lot of weird things happening

544
00:18:04.365 --> 00:18:05.965
as soon as that commercial came out. Yeah. Yeah.

545
00:18:05.965 --> 00:18:07.565
<v Speaker 1>Well you say it's a big platform.</v>

546
00:18:07.595 --> 00:18:10.205
It's a big audience that, uh, that you reach on that.

547
00:18:10.505 --> 00:18:12.645
One of the other cool things that you did is I saw you

548
00:18:12.645 --> 00:18:13.765
went to the Fox upfronts.

549
00:18:13.795 --> 00:18:15.285
Yeah. Which was kind of neat there

550
00:18:15.285 --> 00:18:16.325
with the Borg hanging out

551
00:18:16.325 --> 00:18:18.045
with Michael Strahan. What was that all about? Yeah,

552
00:18:18.045 --> 00:18:19.045
<v Speaker 3>It was really cool.</v>

553
00:18:19.045 --> 00:18:20.005
I, I'd actually never been to one of these.

554
00:18:20.025 --> 00:18:21.845
So, you know, the upfronts are, are essentially

555
00:18:21.845 --> 00:18:24.125
where they're pitching, you know, all the material

556
00:18:24.125 --> 00:18:26.285
that's gonna be coming out on the Fox platforms,

557
00:18:26.395 --> 00:18:28.245
both from the entertainment and sports side.

558
00:18:28.555 --> 00:18:30.245
They had all their hitters there, you know,

559
00:18:30.245 --> 00:18:32.365
from the entertainment side, but then also the sports side.

560
00:18:32.505 --> 00:18:34.125
And like, you know, I was hanging out with,

561
00:18:34.605 --> 00:18:35.885
I mean legitimately, I'm not saying this,

562
00:18:35.885 --> 00:18:36.965
uh, yeah, yeah. I was, yeah, I

563
00:18:36.965 --> 00:18:37.925
<v Speaker 1>Was gonna ask. So you can just say,</v>

564
00:18:38.125 --> 00:18:40.725
<v Speaker 3>I was sitting in a room with Tom Brady and Derek Jeter</v>

565
00:18:40.725 --> 00:18:43.285
and Alex Alexander Rodriguez Rodriguez

566
00:18:43.385 --> 00:18:47.285
and, um, Michael Strahan, um, uh,

567
00:18:48.175 --> 00:18:49.525
poppy was there, Ortiz was there.

568
00:18:49.525 --> 00:18:50.525
Like I'd never met him.

569
00:18:50.585 --> 00:18:53.565
So if you're a big baseball fan, these guys were legends.

570
00:18:53.565 --> 00:18:55.325
Yeah. And so just to even go there

571
00:18:55.745 --> 00:18:57.085
and to give our little pitch, our,

572
00:18:57.105 --> 00:18:58.285
our pitch took four minutes.

573
00:18:58.285 --> 00:18:59.805
Letterman was a part of it. You know,

574
00:18:59.805 --> 00:19:01.525
we're just talking about the Indianapolis 500,

575
00:19:01.545 --> 00:19:02.725
how it was gonna be on this platform,

576
00:19:03.065 --> 00:19:05.285
and you're basically selling the advertisers.

577
00:19:05.905 --> 00:19:07.845
And, um, but just to be there

578
00:19:07.985 --> 00:19:09.925
and to be like, yeah, we're part of the mix

579
00:19:09.955 --> 00:19:11.725
with you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was

580
00:19:11.725 --> 00:19:12.725
<v Speaker 1>Really cool.</v>

581
00:19:12.725 --> 00:19:13.165
You're in the same room. It was really cool.

582
00:19:13.165 --> 00:19:15.245
You are legitimately in the same room with those guys

583
00:19:15.545 --> 00:19:16.605
<v Speaker 3>And these guys were interested.</v>

584
00:19:16.605 --> 00:19:17.925
Yeah, yeah. Like super interested.

585
00:19:17.945 --> 00:19:20.005
We got to talk, you know, they're talking about their sport,

586
00:19:20.005 --> 00:19:21.205
they're asking about IndyCar.

587
00:19:21.205 --> 00:19:23.365
They're all coming here for the Indianapolis 500. Yeah.

588
00:19:23.365 --> 00:19:24.645
They were very intrigued about the race.

589
00:19:25.185 --> 00:19:27.885
Um, so it was great. It was just very legitimizing because

590
00:19:27.885 --> 00:19:29.685
<v Speaker 1>You're like, you're like buddies with Brady at this point.</v>

591
00:19:29.705 --> 00:19:31.325
You guys have been to a couple events together.

592
00:19:31.325 --> 00:19:32.605
You're in the commercial together.

593
00:19:32.785 --> 00:19:34.245
He is gonna be here on race weekend.

594
00:19:35.045 --> 00:19:36.005
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that. He</v>

595
00:19:36.005 --> 00:19:37.125
would probably still be like, who is that

596
00:19:37.125 --> 00:19:38.125
<v Speaker 1>Guy?</v>

597
00:19:38.125 --> 00:19:40.405
But I don't think it's exactly who you are

598
00:19:40.405 --> 00:19:44.085
because that commercial was his jawline. Not quite

599
00:19:44.085 --> 00:19:45.085
<v Speaker 3>The same.</v>

600
00:19:45.085 --> 00:19:46.045
I'm ingrained in his brain. He knows.

601
00:19:46.075 --> 00:19:47.925
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. You live rent free race. He knows.</v>

602
00:19:48.105 --> 00:19:50.245
How does that feel? How does that feel? All right.

603
00:19:50.305 --> 00:19:53.805
Uh, let's switch to the race all through practice, all

604
00:19:53.805 --> 00:19:56.005
through every race run that we were watching.

605
00:19:56.165 --> 00:20:00.005
I sat right over there for all like 87 hours of practice.

606
00:20:00.065 --> 00:20:01.965
Is that where you were? We're just on the far end. Yeah.

607
00:20:01.965 --> 00:20:06.205
In the, in the corner there. And, um, we've all, at the end,

608
00:20:06.425 --> 00:20:08.765
at end of every session, like T Bell

609
00:20:08.765 --> 00:20:10.485
and I will look at each other and be like, the

610
00:20:10.485 --> 00:20:11.765
two, two looks pretty strong.

611
00:20:11.765 --> 00:20:13.845
Traffic is is that true?

612
00:20:14.065 --> 00:20:15.845
Do you guys, do you feel as strong in traffic

613
00:20:15.905 --> 00:20:17.365
as you looked from the outside?

614
00:20:20.265 --> 00:20:23.365
<v Speaker 3>the car's been pretty good, like pretty solid.</v>

615
00:20:23.595 --> 00:20:25.485
I'll say this, you know, um,

616
00:20:26.515 --> 00:20:29.085
it's been a really fun timeline the last two

617
00:20:29.085 --> 00:20:30.205
and a half, three years.

618
00:20:30.235 --> 00:20:33.165
Call it, I've only had a better car each year.

619
00:20:33.585 --> 00:20:36.765
You know, I, I went into the April test in 2023 saying,

620
00:20:37.655 --> 00:20:39.405
don't touch this thing like this.

621
00:20:39.715 --> 00:20:41.805
This is the car. Like this is what we're gonna run.

622
00:20:42.345 --> 00:20:44.645
Um, obviously it changes a little bit with temperature

623
00:20:44.645 --> 00:20:46.645
and all that stuff, but I was like, this is the base car.

624
00:20:47.385 --> 00:20:50.005
And we took that and we, we basically ran it in 23

625
00:20:50.025 --> 00:20:51.085
and we didn't do anything to it.

626
00:20:51.505 --> 00:20:53.525
And we came back, we tweaked on it a little bit,

627
00:20:54.225 --> 00:20:56.445
almost essentially ran the same car in 24.

628
00:20:56.905 --> 00:20:58.365
And it was just that touch better,

629
00:20:58.365 --> 00:20:59.925
like we found a little ingredient here

630
00:20:59.925 --> 00:21:01.405
or there, but it was the same car.

631
00:21:01.785 --> 00:21:02.845
And then we showed up this year,

632
00:21:03.105 --> 00:21:04.325
the weight's different hybrid

633
00:21:05.145 --> 00:21:08.165
and we just did like a couple tweaks here and there.

634
00:21:08.225 --> 00:21:10.685
And it's, it's the best car I've ever had around here.

635
00:21:10.685 --> 00:21:12.325
Really? In all three years. Yeah. Yeah.

636
00:21:12.425 --> 00:21:14.285
So it just, it just keeps getting better.

637
00:21:14.435 --> 00:21:16.085
That does not mean you'll win the race. Right.

638
00:21:16.085 --> 00:21:17.645
You have the best car in the field. Doesn't mean that.

639
00:21:18.105 --> 00:21:21.725
Um, but I think we have that ingredient for the share.

640
00:21:21.805 --> 00:21:23.565
I I do. I I think we've got the, the team,

641
00:21:24.505 --> 00:21:26.165
you know, the stars have to align.

642
00:21:26.165 --> 00:21:27.165
You have to have the pit stops.

643
00:21:27.165 --> 00:21:28.965
You gotta mold to the strategy

644
00:21:29.025 --> 00:21:30.085
as it changes throughout the race.

645
00:21:30.145 --> 00:21:32.485
And you have to have the car, you know, I mean,

646
00:21:32.485 --> 00:21:33.845
you can win this race without the car,

647
00:21:33.865 --> 00:21:35.845
but it is so much more difficult

648
00:21:35.845 --> 00:21:37.725
to do it without the car Exactly.

649
00:21:37.725 --> 00:21:40.205
Where you need it. Right. And, and I have that. So yeah.

650
00:21:40.205 --> 00:21:42.845
That gives me a lot of high hopes going into the race. And

651
00:21:42.845 --> 00:21:45.245
<v Speaker 1>Like, you'd rather have a car dialed in like that,</v>

652
00:21:45.305 --> 00:21:47.365
in race trim than if you had to pick one or the other.

653
00:21:47.925 --> 00:21:51.005
I mean, obviously you want that you came from mid-pack

654
00:21:51.195 --> 00:21:52.485
when you won your first one.

655
00:21:52.865 --> 00:21:55.045
Um, are you, are you kind

656
00:21:55.045 --> 00:21:56.725
of almost looking forward to the challenge at all?

657
00:21:56.725 --> 00:21:58.565
You could be starting on the front row and that's great

658
00:21:58.625 --> 00:21:59.725
and that's cool and you're up there

659
00:21:59.725 --> 00:22:01.445
and the race evolves a certain way

660
00:22:01.465 --> 00:22:03.245
and hopefully everything plays its part

661
00:22:03.265 --> 00:22:04.965
and plays out that you're in it at the end.

662
00:22:05.465 --> 00:22:08.005
But the thought of coming from the back

663
00:22:08.465 --> 00:22:10.925
and working your way through traffic.

664
00:22:11.725 --> 00:22:13.565
'cause again, you've been so strong in that practice.

665
00:22:13.565 --> 00:22:15.685
Is that like kind of a little bit enticing

666
00:22:15.705 --> 00:22:18.205
and then also answer that first?

667
00:22:19.365 --> 00:22:21.845
<v Speaker 3>I, I'm excited about the idea of it. Definitely.</v>

668
00:22:22.085 --> 00:22:24.085
I mean, I'm, I'm just ready to, I have

669
00:22:24.085 --> 00:22:27.245
to keep reminding myself that I, I,

670
00:22:27.485 --> 00:22:28.525
I come here for race day.

671
00:22:28.985 --> 00:22:30.525
We all do. Right? It, um,

672
00:22:30.575 --> 00:22:32.365
we're all sitting here working year round.

673
00:22:32.385 --> 00:22:33.605
And then you get here for the month of May

674
00:22:33.605 --> 00:22:34.725
and it's all the practice, the buildup.

675
00:22:34.725 --> 00:22:36.485
But you, you're here for race day.

676
00:22:36.675 --> 00:22:38.085
This is where you feel the magic

677
00:22:38.165 --> 00:22:39.525
of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

678
00:22:40.185 --> 00:22:42.525
And you know, the last couple years I've just tried

679
00:22:42.545 --> 00:22:44.205
to not look at the result

680
00:22:44.305 --> 00:22:47.525
and say, let me just enjoy the process of racing this thing.

681
00:22:47.525 --> 00:22:49.125
Right. And like getting it. Right. Right.

682
00:22:49.585 --> 00:22:52.405
And here's another thing. I just started saying this today.

683
00:22:52.525 --> 00:22:53.765
I told people, 'cause I love hearing

684
00:22:53.765 --> 00:22:55.485
where people sit and Yeah.

685
00:22:55.485 --> 00:22:57.485
Yeah. Their story. How long you had your

686
00:22:57.485 --> 00:22:58.925
tickets, who got 'em originally.

687
00:22:58.925 --> 00:23:01.365
Like, this is what makes Indie so cool.

688
00:23:01.785 --> 00:23:04.685
And I say, there's no bad seat at the Indianapolis 500.

689
00:23:04.925 --> 00:23:06.165
'cause everyone loves where they sit. Mm-hmm .

690
00:23:06.245 --> 00:23:07.645
It's, they're, everybody's got a good seat.

691
00:23:08.185 --> 00:23:11.565
And I, I now also believe there's no bad starting

692
00:23:11.635 --> 00:23:13.045
spot at the Indy 500.

693
00:23:13.405 --> 00:23:14.765
I think you can start from anywhere. Yeah.

694
00:23:14.765 --> 00:23:16.645
You know, you got, you just have to have the car, you have

695
00:23:16.645 --> 00:23:19.485
to have the team, and you can win this race from anywhere.

696
00:23:19.625 --> 00:23:23.365
So, you know, maybe there's some more exposure, you know,

697
00:23:23.665 --> 00:23:25.605
how could there not be for sure if if we had a

698
00:23:25.605 --> 00:23:26.805
preference, I would start up front.

699
00:23:26.805 --> 00:23:28.085
Yeah, of course you're gonna limit it.

700
00:23:28.085 --> 00:23:29.205
But, but you know, we just have

701
00:23:29.205 --> 00:23:30.445
to be smart about the beginning of the race.

702
00:23:30.545 --> 00:23:32.565
And once we get into the flow of things,

703
00:23:32.885 --> 00:23:35.285
I absolutely believe we can fight our way to the front.

704
00:23:35.585 --> 00:23:39.605
<v Speaker 1>Do you have to tell yourself now that</v>

705
00:23:41.055 --> 00:23:44.715
the kind of biggest strength that you need to have

706
00:23:45.385 --> 00:23:47.445
for the first half of this race is patience?

707
00:23:48.225 --> 00:23:50.085
Are, are you sitting here being like, oh, we need

708
00:23:50.085 --> 00:23:52.005
to be in exposition by X lap?

709
00:23:52.145 --> 00:23:55.805
Or are you just like, hang on, let's let it play out.

710
00:23:55.895 --> 00:23:57.245
We'll work our way up as we can?

711
00:23:57.665 --> 00:23:59.605
Or are you kind of looking at this race as like,

712
00:23:59.705 --> 00:24:03.765
you've got goals of progress by certain stages of the race?

713
00:24:04.145 --> 00:24:06.605
<v Speaker 3>No. Goals. Definitely not. Uh, not doing that.</v>

714
00:24:06.715 --> 00:24:09.045
It's a good question. You know, I think it's a,

715
00:24:09.075 --> 00:24:10.725
it's a little, there's such a balance in

716
00:24:10.725 --> 00:24:11.805
this, you know, this racing James.

717
00:24:12.025 --> 00:24:16.485
Uh, as soon as you take it easy, as soon as you're like,

718
00:24:16.505 --> 00:24:19.245
Hey, I'm, I'm gonna take a different approach

719
00:24:19.305 --> 00:24:22.285
or I'm gonna let off, that's when something bad happens.

720
00:24:22.785 --> 00:24:25.565
So I, I don't want, you don't, you can't go so far one end

721
00:24:25.565 --> 00:24:27.005
of the spectrum where you say, Hey look,

722
00:24:27.225 --> 00:24:28.245
we gotta have some patience.

723
00:24:28.625 --> 00:24:30.805
But I do think it is relevant to say that I think

724
00:24:31.595 --> 00:24:34.085
I've never started, you know, essentially last here.

725
00:24:34.845 --> 00:24:36.165
I might just hang back at the start.

726
00:24:36.405 --> 00:24:37.725
I might be, you know, a quarter

727
00:24:37.725 --> 00:24:39.405
of the way down the straightaway. Yeah. I mean,

728
00:24:39.405 --> 00:24:40.365
<v Speaker 1>Look at Erickson last year. Right.</v>

729
00:24:40.865 --> 00:24:42.365
<v Speaker 3>You just never know. I mean, you know,</v>

730
00:24:42.365 --> 00:24:44.285
and this is a very mixed up grid.

731
00:24:44.285 --> 00:24:45.645
Mm-hmm . One, probably one

732
00:24:45.645 --> 00:24:47.485
of the more mixed up front rows we've ever seen.

733
00:24:47.605 --> 00:24:50.765
Probably. Yeah. So I, I do think you need patience,

734
00:24:50.765 --> 00:24:53.645
but when it comes to the race itself, you,

735
00:24:53.785 --> 00:24:56.645
you just cannot change your natural approach.

736
00:24:56.925 --> 00:24:59.285
I think I've gotta drive the car, uh,

737
00:24:59.545 --> 00:25:00.605
the way I naturally do,

738
00:25:00.865 --> 00:25:02.845
the way I've been driving it all month, the way, you know,

739
00:25:02.955 --> 00:25:05.205
what feels right to me, I'm not gonna second guess it.

740
00:25:05.545 --> 00:25:06.965
You know? And that doesn't guarantee anything.

741
00:25:07.105 --> 00:25:08.525
You can always get caught up in something,

742
00:25:08.585 --> 00:25:11.205
but I think you put yourself more at risk when you overthink

743
00:25:11.205 --> 00:25:12.445
and you try and pull yourself back.

744
00:25:16.305 --> 00:25:18.485
<v Speaker 1>Is that where you're going if you get a third?</v>

745
00:25:19.085 --> 00:25:20.885
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Same spot. It's a good question.</v>

746
00:25:21.025 --> 00:25:24.285
You know, I, I, I knew I only knew on the first one Right.

747
00:25:24.285 --> 00:25:26.405
That I was absolutely doing that. Right.

748
00:25:26.705 --> 00:25:28.965
The second one, I, I didn't,

749
00:25:29.205 --> 00:25:30.685
I didn't necessarily have a plan for it.

750
00:25:30.925 --> 00:25:32.165
I didn't expect to win it a second time.

751
00:25:32.485 --> 00:25:33.485
I didn't expect to win it the first time.

752
00:25:33.585 --> 00:25:34.725
I'd like given up on it. I was like,

753
00:25:34.965 --> 00:25:36.765
whatever, I'm never gonna win this race.

754
00:25:37.225 --> 00:25:39.005
Um, and so then the second time

755
00:25:39.005 --> 00:25:40.525
through people, are you gonna do it again?

756
00:25:40.645 --> 00:25:42.845
I had no idea. Did not expect to win it again.

757
00:25:43.465 --> 00:25:46.045
And I want, I don't wanna say I panicked,

758
00:25:46.265 --> 00:25:47.325
that's not what it was.

759
00:25:47.885 --> 00:25:50.125
I did my best to find a different option.

760
00:25:50.125 --> 00:25:51.325
Mm-hmm . Very hard,

761
00:25:51.805 --> 00:25:52.885
<v Speaker 1>very hard limited options.</v>

762
00:25:53.055 --> 00:25:55.765
<v Speaker 3>There are such limited options here at the Speedway. Yeah.</v>

763
00:25:55.765 --> 00:25:57.725
Which is unfortunate. This is the one place

764
00:25:57.995 --> 00:25:59.645
that I can find and that I knew of.

765
00:25:59.645 --> 00:26:01.125
Yeah. That you could access the crowd.

766
00:26:01.805 --> 00:26:03.605
<v Speaker 1>I would recommend trying the snake pit in</v>

767
00:26:03.605 --> 00:26:04.845
three . Just see,

768
00:26:04.875 --> 00:26:05.875
<v Speaker 3>Just the world.</v>

769
00:26:05.875 --> 00:26:06.325
Well, we know where Connor's

770
00:26:06.325 --> 00:26:07.885
going. . Okay. Yeah. True. A hundred

771
00:26:07.885 --> 00:26:08.885
percent
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

772
00:26:09.525 --> 00:26:11.685
A hundred percent. Well, hey man, uh, you're doing it from,

773
00:26:11.955 --> 00:26:14.405
from the other end of the field, but going

774
00:26:14.565 --> 00:26:15.885
after history on Sunday.

775
00:26:16.275 --> 00:26:17.285
Best of luck in the 500

776
00:26:17.285 --> 00:26:18.285
<v Speaker 3>Pound.</v>

777
00:26:18.285 --> 00:26:18.525
Thanks James.

778
00:26:19.705 --> 00:26:23.125
<v Speaker 1>Scotty Mack. Scott McLaughlin, the captain</v>

779
00:26:23.185 --> 00:26:24.365
of the thirsty threes.

780
00:26:24.765 --> 00:26:26.005
<v Speaker 4>I am</v>
<v Speaker 1>Correct.</v>

781
00:26:26.005 --> 00:26:27.685
Uh, where'd that come from? Thirsty threes.

782
00:26:27.745 --> 00:26:31.045
<v Speaker 4>Um, I don't, like, me and Ben were playing video games.</v>

783
00:26:31.145 --> 00:26:33.405
My, my engineer and, and he, we were drinking

784
00:26:33.835 --> 00:26:35.565
<v Speaker 1>What what video games,</v>
<v Speaker 4>Like Call of Duty.</v>

785
00:26:35.595 --> 00:26:38.085
Okay. Yeah. And I, I cracked one and, and

786
00:26:38.085 --> 00:26:39.685
and just said, oh geez, I'm thirsty.

787
00:26:39.715 --> 00:26:41.925
Yeah. Yeah. And he goes, oh yeah, we are the thirsty threes.

788
00:26:41.965 --> 00:26:43.325
I was like, oh, I like that .

789
00:26:44.065 --> 00:26:45.765
And, and I didn't think it was gonna stay,

790
00:26:45.825 --> 00:26:48.085
but, um, we just did it for once and it worked.

791
00:26:48.145 --> 00:26:50.045
And honestly, the fans loved it. Yeah. Yeah.

792
00:26:50.065 --> 00:26:51.645
And people jumped on board and it was awesome.

793
00:26:51.925 --> 00:26:53.725
<v Speaker 1>I love that it came over a Coors Light</v>

794
00:26:53.725 --> 00:26:54.845
and a Call of Duty, basically.

795
00:26:54.845 --> 00:26:55.765
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Silver Bullets, man.</v>

796
00:26:55.885 --> 00:26:57.445
A lot of good things come from them.  Hi. Be

797
00:26:57.755 --> 00:26:59.085
<v Speaker 1>Exclusively good experiences.</v>

798
00:26:59.385 --> 00:27:03.965
Silver Bullets. Uh, you, we were just talking, uh, you're,

799
00:27:03.965 --> 00:27:06.045
you're starting, uh, 12th in the race.

800
00:27:06.745 --> 00:27:08.845
<v Speaker 4>Uh, 10th, 10th, 10th. Yeah. Inside row four.</v>

801
00:27:08.875 --> 00:27:10.085
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Inside row four. Mm-hmm .</v>

802
00:27:10.165 --> 00:27:12.405
So, but you were talking about how you have to

803
00:27:12.975 --> 00:27:15.365
think about the row that you're on Yes.

804
00:27:15.365 --> 00:27:16.765
And the guys that you're with because once

805
00:27:16.765 --> 00:27:18.205
qualifying weekends over mm-hmm .

806
00:27:18.285 --> 00:27:20.205
You end up doing a lot of kind of things

807
00:27:20.235 --> 00:27:21.805
with the people in your row. Do a

808
00:27:21.805 --> 00:27:22.805
<v Speaker 4>Lot of things with them.</v>

809
00:27:23.095 --> 00:27:25.285
<v Speaker 1>Surprising. So you landed with Rossi</v>

810
00:27:25.285 --> 00:27:26.565
and Connor. I'm sorry. That's

811
00:27:26.565 --> 00:27:27.565
<v Speaker 4>Awful.</v>

812
00:27:27.565 --> 00:27:29.125
I'm actually stoked. I mean, I know you hang out a lot

813
00:27:29.125 --> 00:27:31.365
with Alex, but, um, and Connor for that matter,

814
00:27:31.365 --> 00:27:33.285
but, you know, I, uh, I'm actually excited.

815
00:27:33.495 --> 00:27:35.685
Don't think I shared a, a row with either of them.

816
00:27:36.145 --> 00:27:38.885
And you know, I, like last year I had my teammates

817
00:27:38.885 --> 00:27:40.765
and I spent way too much time with those guys, so Yeah.

818
00:27:40.765 --> 00:27:42.165
See em all the time. Anyway. I was That's fine. Yeah.

819
00:27:42.245 --> 00:27:43.445
I see 'em all the time. So, uh,

820
00:27:43.745 --> 00:27:44.885
I'm excited. There's a good row.

821
00:27:45.265 --> 00:27:48.605
<v Speaker 1>So, uh, if you could pick your perfect row Mm.</v>

822
00:27:49.835 --> 00:27:51.815
Of the current Indie 500 field mm-hmm .

823
00:27:51.915 --> 00:27:53.015
Who would, who would it be? Honestly,

824
00:27:53.055 --> 00:27:54.055
<v Speaker 4>I think, I think it's that one.</v>

825
00:27:54.055 --> 00:27:56.055
You think, you think you nailed it? Yeah. I think I have.

826
00:27:56.805 --> 00:27:58.695
Only Wild Card would be like, who?

827
00:27:59.005 --> 00:28:01.615
Like, like if they weren't in the field, like say,

828
00:28:01.665 --> 00:28:03.215
let's say Connor or Rossi was in the field.

829
00:28:03.215 --> 00:28:05.535
Yeah. Who would you sub out? I, I'd say Colton. Okay.

830
00:28:05.535 --> 00:28:07.015
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 4>I get along with Colton pretty well out</v>

831
00:28:07.015 --> 00:28:07.935
and I have been on the, I

832
00:28:07.935 --> 00:28:09.055
have been on the road with him before.

833
00:28:09.055 --> 00:28:10.215
Okay. Actually had Colton

834
00:28:10.215 --> 00:28:11.535
and Ed, so that's not a bad one either.

835
00:28:11.535 --> 00:28:12.735
That's not a bad one at all, because that,

836
00:28:12.735 --> 00:28:13.735
<v Speaker 1>That's his sleeper, right?</v>

837
00:28:13.735 --> 00:28:15.735
Yeah. Yeah. People don't know, like, they just see kind

838
00:28:15.895 --> 00:28:18.015
of Sirius Ed, the team owners, Sirius Ed the driver.

839
00:28:18.155 --> 00:28:19.815
Yep. But he's got a wicked sense of humor.

840
00:28:19.955 --> 00:28:22.255
<v Speaker 4>Oh, he does. He's so funny. And I, I, I think we, like,</v>

841
00:28:22.335 --> 00:28:23.695
I got to know him more when

842
00:28:24.255 --> 00:28:26.055
I think it's two rows I've shared with him.

843
00:28:26.055 --> 00:28:28.135
Okay. And the first one was actually a crazy one.

844
00:28:28.135 --> 00:28:31.095
I think it was my first year. It was, uh, LIO and Ed.

845
00:28:31.315 --> 00:28:33.175
So it was like, I've, I've, it was crazy.

846
00:28:33.245 --> 00:28:35.335
Like the parade with Lio when he was going for four

847
00:28:35.335 --> 00:28:36.535
and stuff, it was like wild.

848
00:28:36.595 --> 00:28:37.735
It was like stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

849
00:28:37.735 --> 00:28:39.215
<v Speaker 1>Alright, so explain to the people.</v>

850
00:28:39.485 --> 00:28:41.615
What are some of the things that you end up having to do

851
00:28:41.685 --> 00:28:43.135
with the guys on your row? Um,

852
00:28:43.595 --> 00:28:44.695
<v Speaker 4>You do obviously the parade.</v>

853
00:28:44.695 --> 00:28:46.535
Yeah. And they line the cars up, like side

854
00:28:46.535 --> 00:28:47.655
by side and then, and then you,

855
00:28:47.795 --> 00:28:50.535
<v Speaker 1>And you're in that pre parade room for like an hour</v>

856
00:28:50.555 --> 00:28:52.015
and a half, two hours, hanging,

857
00:28:52.015 --> 00:28:53.015
<v Speaker 4>Hanging out.</v>

858
00:28:53.015 --> 00:28:53.495
Those all the families are hanging out,

859
00:28:53.555 --> 00:28:54.935
you're with the kids and all that stuff.

860
00:28:55.075 --> 00:28:57.055
And then, um, then you do the autograph or

861
00:28:57.075 --> 00:28:58.535
before that you had the autograph session.

862
00:28:58.605 --> 00:29:00.655
Yeah. You sit next to the most likely at the

863
00:29:00.655 --> 00:29:02.135
driver's, driver's meeting, briefing the meeting. Yeah.

864
00:29:02.275 --> 00:29:04.215
<v Speaker 1>Um, so you're in the bus down to the thing</v>

865
00:29:04.215 --> 00:29:05.215
<v Speaker 4>With Yeah.</v>

866
00:29:05.215 --> 00:29:05.455
The, the same bus on the way down.

867
00:29:05.485 --> 00:29:07.375
Like, it, it would suck if you actually like,

868
00:29:07.375 --> 00:29:08.495
weren't with a guy that you liked.

869
00:29:08.505 --> 00:29:09.775
Right. So, um,

870
00:29:10.035 --> 00:29:12.495
but I mean, I, like most people in the field, I just don't

871
00:29:12.495 --> 00:29:14.015
that people that I don't really talk

872
00:29:14.015 --> 00:29:16.255
to is people I don't really know. Right. So. Right.

873
00:29:16.255 --> 00:29:17.255
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So you don't like them, you</v>

874
00:29:17.255 --> 00:29:18.055
<v Speaker 4>Just don dunno.</v>

875
00:29:18.055 --> 00:29:19.655
Exactly. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, um, it's a good

876
00:29:19.655 --> 00:29:20.655
<v Speaker 1>Thing.</v>

877
00:29:20.655 --> 00:29:21.535
So in the parade, which is one

878
00:29:21.535 --> 00:29:22.855
of the coolest things that we get to do, right?

879
00:29:22.855 --> 00:29:24.375
Mm-hmm . I mean, that parade is, it's one

880
00:29:24.375 --> 00:29:26.415
of the biggest parades in the country, I believe it is.

881
00:29:26.485 --> 00:29:28.215
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It's definitely top three. Yeah.</v>

882
00:29:28.595 --> 00:29:30.615
<v Speaker 1>So, such an honor to get to do it. Mm-hmm .</v>

883
00:29:30.835 --> 00:29:31.975
Uh, you get your car

884
00:29:32.235 --> 00:29:34.615
and then do, do Carly Lucy come with you?

885
00:29:34.835 --> 00:29:36.375
<v Speaker 4>Uh, not this year. Not this year. No.</v>

886
00:29:36.375 --> 00:29:37.815
It's a bit much for Lucy, we think. Yeah.

887
00:29:37.815 --> 00:29:39.255
So I'm gonna do it. This will be the first

888
00:29:39.255 --> 00:29:40.335
one I'll actually do by myself.

889
00:29:40.445 --> 00:29:41.965
Okay. Yeah. So I'll just be out

890
00:29:41.965 --> 00:29:43.085
there in my lonesome. Do you want me

891
00:29:43.085 --> 00:29:44.085
<v Speaker 1>To come</v>
<v Speaker 4>With you or No, you're right.</v>

892
00:29:44.085 --> 00:29:46.085
Okay. Roger normally sends, um, one

893
00:29:46.085 --> 00:29:47.165
of his grandkids with us.

894
00:29:47.265 --> 00:29:48.365
Oh. Which is pretty cool. There you go.

895
00:29:48.465 --> 00:29:50.125
So, um, I had Tanner the last few years.

896
00:29:50.145 --> 00:29:52.525
Tanner is like, he will run the company one day.

897
00:29:52.845 --> 00:29:55.085
, like, he's, he's, he's an incredible like 10. Yeah.

898
00:29:55.085 --> 00:29:56.805
No, no. He's 10 going on 30. Yeah.

899
00:29:56.805 --> 00:29:58.765
Like, he's like telling me like to, Hey man,

900
00:29:58.765 --> 00:30:00.525
go sign those guy's hats.

901
00:30:00.525 --> 00:30:02.525
Like, he's like big promoter guy. I lo

902
00:30:02.525 --> 00:30:03.525
<v Speaker 1>Love the kid.</v>

903
00:30:03.525 --> 00:30:04.725
I see a few three hats in the crowd. Go sign that.

904
00:30:05.295 --> 00:30:07.205
<v Speaker 4>Gimme a water bottle, like sign your water bottle.</v>

905
00:30:07.315 --> 00:30:08.325
He's like, seriously like that .

906
00:30:08.825 --> 00:30:10.285
And it's so funny. Yeah. Yeah. That's

907
00:30:10.285 --> 00:30:11.285
<v Speaker 1>So good.</v>

908
00:30:11.285 --> 00:30:13.165
Yeah. Uh, so Lucy's first 500. Yes.

909
00:30:13.265 --> 00:30:16.405
Are you excited about gonna have Sharon, some of the things

910
00:30:16.405 --> 00:30:17.685
that are gonna, not the parade,

911
00:30:17.825 --> 00:30:19.685
but some of the other things, especially on race morning

912
00:30:19.875 --> 00:30:20.885
with, uh, with your little girl?

913
00:30:21.325 --> 00:30:23.365
<v Speaker 4>Probably, uh, I want to take her up for driver intros.</v>

914
00:30:23.365 --> 00:30:25.125
Do you? And like people can see her as get older

915
00:30:25.145 --> 00:30:27.285
and older as the years get like kind of Ed's kids

916
00:30:27.285 --> 00:30:28.805
and Hunter Ray's kids and stuff.

917
00:30:28.865 --> 00:30:31.725
Yep. Um, so that, that's probably what I wanna do the most.

918
00:30:31.745 --> 00:30:33.445
But yeah, very excited. I like,

919
00:30:33.445 --> 00:30:35.525
she has no idea what's going on right now, but

920
00:30:35.645 --> 00:30:36.965
<v Speaker 1>'cause she's eight months,</v>
<v Speaker 4>Seven months,</v>

921
00:30:37.115 --> 00:30:38.485
just under, just under eight.

922
00:30:38.585 --> 00:30:41.165
And, but she, uh, like, you know, it's just cool.

923
00:30:41.495 --> 00:30:42.525
We'll look back on these photos

924
00:30:42.625 --> 00:30:44.765
and go, you know, we've got all these videos we've taken on

925
00:30:44.765 --> 00:30:46.325
a camera and like, it's, it's,

926
00:30:46.325 --> 00:30:48.085
it's just cool me making memories like this.

927
00:30:48.225 --> 00:30:50.685
<v Speaker 1>How, how has Carly's may been having to kind</v>

928
00:30:50.685 --> 00:30:52.045
of balance looking after you

929
00:30:52.105 --> 00:30:53.845
and also looking after Lucy? Uh,

930
00:30:54.845 --> 00:30:56.565
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm more of a handful than, oh,</v>

931
00:30:56.565 --> 00:30:57.685
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee her more of a</v>

932
00:30:57.905 --> 00:31:00.525
<v Speaker 4>And Lucy is, but um, you know, I think, uh, no,</v>

933
00:31:00.525 --> 00:31:03.005
she's going really like, I'm so lucky man.

934
00:31:03.005 --> 00:31:04.365
Like, Carly's an absolute superstar

935
00:31:04.425 --> 00:31:05.645
and um, you know,

936
00:31:05.645 --> 00:31:07.765
Lucy thankfully has been sleeping really well.

937
00:31:08.185 --> 00:31:09.925
Um, and sleeps the whole night at the bus.

938
00:31:09.925 --> 00:31:11.565
She loves the bus for some reason. Oh, that's cool.

939
00:31:11.565 --> 00:31:13.885
So yeah, she sleeps her best sleeps here, so

940
00:31:13.885 --> 00:31:14.885
<v Speaker 1>It's good.</v>

941
00:31:14.885 --> 00:31:15.245
Yeah. So the whole family's on the

942
00:31:15.245 --> 00:31:16.245
<v Speaker 4>Bus.</v>

943
00:31:16.245 --> 00:31:18.045
Yeah. Yeah. We got the, we got the crib in there and yeah.

944
00:31:18.185 --> 00:31:19.245
Um, it's pretty tight,

945
00:31:19.345 --> 00:31:21.165
but, um, you know, it's, it's, it's good.

946
00:31:21.165 --> 00:31:23.125
And, and, uh, I wouldn't have it any other way.

947
00:31:23.785 --> 00:31:25.365
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's funny 'cause I'm talking to Rossi,</v>

948
00:31:25.425 --> 00:31:26.525
you know, new dad.

949
00:31:26.525 --> 00:31:29.405
Mm-hmm . Not at the sleep on the bus phase yet. I

950
00:31:29.405 --> 00:31:30.685
<v Speaker 4>Told him he gotta get to six weeks.</v>

951
00:31:30.685 --> 00:31:32.885
Yeah. Like six weeks is basically

952
00:31:32.885 --> 00:31:34.005
when it starts getting a little better.

953
00:31:34.055 --> 00:31:36.005
Right. Um, but even then it's still hard.

954
00:31:36.025 --> 00:31:39.645
But we honestly, man, we were, we have been absolutely like

955
00:31:40.145 --> 00:31:41.365
so lucky with Lucy.

956
00:31:41.505 --> 00:31:45.445
She sleeps, she slept since um, two months old.

957
00:31:45.445 --> 00:31:47.125
She slept like 12 hours at night,

958
00:31:47.255 --> 00:31:48.405
which is kind of crazy. It's funny

959
00:31:48.525 --> 00:31:49.405
<v Speaker 1>'cause we were having this conversation</v>

960
00:31:49.405 --> 00:31:50.325
with Polo too, right.

961
00:31:50.325 --> 00:31:52.285
Because, you know, we spoke to Alex

962
00:31:52.425 --> 00:31:54.645
and Ben's two weeks old, right?

963
00:31:54.645 --> 00:31:56.245
Yeah. So obviously that's not right.

964
00:31:56.945 --> 00:32:00.725
And uh, and I've had people in the room actually say that,

965
00:32:00.825 --> 00:32:02.165
you know, three months is kind

966
00:32:02.165 --> 00:32:03.485
of like the, when they really start.

967
00:32:03.595 --> 00:32:06.405
Yeah. And, but as I was talking to Paul, I'm like, oh yeah.

968
00:32:06.545 --> 00:32:08.605
So my friends say usually takes about,

969
00:32:08.665 --> 00:32:10.805
and as I was saying, three months, he was like 12 months.

970
00:32:11.225 --> 00:32:13.525
Oh. Oh, okay. I know he, yours was a little Okay.

971
00:32:13.525 --> 00:32:14.725
Yours was a little harder to Yeah. Yeah.

972
00:32:14.725 --> 00:32:15.845
Yours was a little settle down. Little aggressive.

973
00:32:15.995 --> 00:32:17.085
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. A little aggressive one.</v>

974
00:32:17.085 --> 00:32:19.325
You got little Nah, but yeah. Uh, that

975
00:32:19.325 --> 00:32:20.725
<v Speaker 1>Spanish influencing area. Yeah, exactly.</v>

976
00:32:20.815 --> 00:32:21.965
<v Speaker 4>Which is surprising 'cause he's</v>

977
00:32:21.965 --> 00:32:23.005
<v Speaker 1>So chill. So chill. But,</v>

978
00:32:23.005 --> 00:32:25.525
<v Speaker 4>Um, no, it, it was surprising like Oh, very.</v>

979
00:32:25.665 --> 00:32:27.565
I'm thankful. And it's half the reason why, um,

980
00:32:28.485 --> 00:32:29.725
I guess I brought them to a lot

981
00:32:29.725 --> 00:32:31.045
of races already this year just

982
00:32:31.045 --> 00:32:32.205
because like Lucy is sleeping

983
00:32:32.345 --> 00:32:33.525
and it's just cool to have them.

984
00:32:33.525 --> 00:32:36.125
Yeah. Yeah. Um, otherwise it probably you'd find, you know,

985
00:32:36.455 --> 00:32:39.005
Carly was fully aware of maybe getting in a hotel or,

986
00:32:39.105 --> 00:32:40.165
or, but I didn't want that.

987
00:32:40.165 --> 00:32:41.205
Right. I'd rather them stay at

988
00:32:41.205 --> 00:32:42.285
home in their own comfort of their home.

989
00:32:42.515 --> 00:32:43.725
Yeah, for sure. So it's

990
00:32:43.725 --> 00:32:44.725
<v Speaker 1>All good.</v>

991
00:32:44.725 --> 00:32:46.245
Is it making some of the cool things about the 500

992
00:32:46.305 --> 00:32:48.365
and about this month feel more special that you're getting

993
00:32:48.365 --> 00:32:49.365
to share with her for the first time?

994
00:32:49.395 --> 00:32:51.485
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It also just puts things in perspec perspective.</v>

995
00:32:51.485 --> 00:32:53.325
Yeah. You know, I'm just, so, I felt,

996
00:32:53.405 --> 00:32:55.605
I genuinely feel like just so much more refreshed

997
00:32:55.865 --> 00:32:59.605
and just like excited about, you know, I, I, I've hung out

998
00:32:59.605 --> 00:33:01.685
with her all morning and now I'm like, okay, dad's gonna go

999
00:33:01.685 --> 00:33:03.765
and do his, like press conferences and muck around

1000
00:33:03.765 --> 00:33:05.125
and then I do this and I'll be a race driver

1001
00:33:05.185 --> 00:33:07.685
for like three hours and I go back, I'm dad and I'm cooking

1002
00:33:07.745 --> 00:33:09.365
and I'm hanging out, I'm changing diapers,

1003
00:33:09.365 --> 00:33:10.605
like doing my thing with Carly.

1004
00:33:10.605 --> 00:33:12.885
And um, I think it's really like just

1005
00:33:13.245 --> 00:33:14.325
grounded me and just Yeah.

1006
00:33:14.325 --> 00:33:16.085
Yeah. It's, it's like I, I love it.

1007
00:33:16.365 --> 00:33:19.045
I love the role of like race driver dad kind of

1008
00:33:19.045 --> 00:33:20.045
<v Speaker 1>Thing.</v>

1009
00:33:20.045 --> 00:33:20.845
Well, there's nothing more like humbling

1010
00:33:20.845 --> 00:33:23.245
and bringing you back to earth more than like getting back

1011
00:33:23.245 --> 00:33:24.685
to the bus and be like, you change it.

1012
00:33:24.685 --> 00:33:25.805
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Yeah.

1013
00:33:25.805 --> 00:33:28.285
But I was like a rockstar over here like 10 minutes ago

1014
00:33:28.285 --> 00:33:29.605
and now I'm just like changing diapers.

1015
00:33:29.865 --> 00:33:31.325
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>I getting formula ready.</v>

1016
00:33:31.635 --> 00:33:34.565
<v Speaker 4>Some heavy ones as shit this, this week as well, so Yeah.</v>

1017
00:33:34.755 --> 00:33:37.005
<v Speaker 1>Chip off the old block. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.</v>

1018
00:33:37.545 --> 00:33:39.125
<v Speaker 4>Um, but no, she's, she's, uh,</v>

1019
00:33:39.415 --> 00:33:40.685
she's not messing around this week.

1020
00:33:40.825 --> 00:33:41.925
<v Speaker 1>That's great man. That's great.</v>

1021
00:33:41.925 --> 00:33:43.205
Alright, let's talk your race car.

1022
00:33:43.345 --> 00:33:44.725
We got through qualifying mm-hmm .

1023
00:33:44.825 --> 00:33:47.965
And, um, had Monday practice mm-hmm .

1024
00:33:48.065 --> 00:33:50.885
So single lap stuff done or qualifying run stuff done.

1025
00:33:50.885 --> 00:33:52.005
Mm-hmm . How was it in traffic? Uh,

1026
00:33:52.005 --> 00:33:53.005
<v Speaker 4>Good.</v>

1027
00:33:53.005 --> 00:33:56.045
I mean, um, obviously we went to the backup on Sunday, uh,

1028
00:33:56.265 --> 00:33:58.725
and uh, Monday, like this is a brand new car.

1029
00:33:58.875 --> 00:34:01.405
It's got all our race bits on from the week prior, but,

1030
00:34:01.465 --> 00:34:02.765
and generally is fast.

1031
00:34:02.905 --> 00:34:05.165
It still is punching the same lap times

1032
00:34:05.865 --> 00:34:07.365
in open air than it was.

1033
00:34:07.385 --> 00:34:08.485
So, and then we put it in traffic.

1034
00:34:08.865 --> 00:34:10.765
We had a couple little issues just with the way

1035
00:34:10.765 --> 00:34:12.285
that the car was reading differently

1036
00:34:12.285 --> 00:34:13.805
to the last one, which you're always gonna have.

1037
00:34:14.105 --> 00:34:15.125
But we managed to iron

1038
00:34:15.125 --> 00:34:16.885
that out towards the end of that Monday practice.

1039
00:34:16.885 --> 00:34:18.485
So hopefully we have a really good carb day

1040
00:34:18.585 --> 00:34:20.525
and we can just, uh, make that thing feel,

1041
00:34:20.625 --> 00:34:21.765
uh, just as good as it was feeling

1042
00:34:21.765 --> 00:34:22.765
<v Speaker 1>Before.</v>

1043
00:34:22.765 --> 00:34:24.565
So you're probably, you're probably thankful

1044
00:34:24.565 --> 00:34:26.365
that we still have another two hours to just kind

1045
00:34:26.365 --> 00:34:27.445
of go finish Absolutely.

1046
00:34:27.445 --> 00:34:28.565
Tuning on that thing. Yeah.

1047
00:34:28.675 --> 00:34:30.365
<v Speaker 4>That Monday practice was huge for us.</v>

1048
00:34:30.505 --> 00:34:31.845
And then, you know, the, the,

1049
00:34:31.945 --> 00:34:33.565
the carb days is another thing,

1050
00:34:33.565 --> 00:34:34.805
but you know,

1051
00:34:34.805 --> 00:34:36.885
if you were gonna crash, you'd never want to crash.

1052
00:34:36.985 --> 00:34:39.485
But like Sunday is probably the last day you can possibly do

1053
00:34:39.485 --> 00:34:41.165
it because it just, you need to make sure

1054
00:34:41.165 --> 00:34:42.125
that you're dotting your I crossed

1055
00:34:42.125 --> 00:34:43.005
and your T's with everything.

1056
00:34:43.005 --> 00:34:44.605
And I couldn't imagine, I know, heard it,

1057
00:34:44.605 --> 00:34:46.125
did it a couple years ago going into a

1058
00:34:46.125 --> 00:34:47.365
race just with a backup.

1059
00:34:47.555 --> 00:34:48.965
Yeah. You just driving it. 'cause

1060
00:34:49.005 --> 00:34:50.765
<v Speaker 1>And it was not good</v>
<v Speaker 4>So much to work with.</v>

1061
00:34:50.765 --> 00:34:51.965
These guys are superstars, the people

1062
00:34:51.965 --> 00:34:53.405
that put the cars together and my team.

1063
00:34:53.465 --> 00:34:56.365
But, you know, it, it, it's hard,

1064
00:34:56.385 --> 00:34:57.485
you know, it's, it's not easy man.

1065
00:34:57.485 --> 00:34:59.205
It's not, and especially now with the hybrid and stuff.

1066
00:34:59.265 --> 00:35:01.685
So look, just fingers crossed, everything's all right.

1067
00:35:01.685 --> 00:35:03.245
But I, I certainly feel really good in traffic.

1068
00:35:03.405 --> 00:35:04.805
I feel like we were able to follow really close.

1069
00:35:04.985 --> 00:35:07.045
I'm able to, you know, make moves.

1070
00:35:07.115 --> 00:35:08.525
Some people can't and like eighth

1071
00:35:08.525 --> 00:35:09.685
or ninth in line, which is,

1072
00:35:09.685 --> 00:35:11.085
and it's been like that, that's been a

1073
00:35:11.085 --> 00:35:12.205
trend for us in Penske cars.

1074
00:35:12.305 --> 00:35:14.085
So yeah. There's no doubt we can do it.

1075
00:35:14.085 --> 00:35:15.205
It's just a matter of putting it together.

1076
00:35:15.545 --> 00:35:16.725
<v Speaker 1>Are you one of these guys that tries</v>

1077
00:35:16.725 --> 00:35:17.885
to kind of map the race out?

1078
00:35:17.985 --> 00:35:19.845
Or are you just take it one lap at a time?

1079
00:35:20.115 --> 00:35:21.445
Yeah, one stint at a time and,

1080
00:35:21.445 --> 00:35:23.365
and not try to get too far ahead of yourself? I, I'm

1081
00:35:23.365 --> 00:35:25.485
<v Speaker 4>Definitely, I don't like mapping it out.</v>

1082
00:35:25.605 --> 00:35:28.285
I, I'm a bit more instinctive, um, just

1083
00:35:28.285 --> 00:35:30.165
because I think I just get myself if it,

1084
00:35:30.185 --> 00:35:32.645
if it doesn't work out the way I want it, I didn't want

1085
00:35:32.645 --> 00:35:34.805
to like implode in some ways, which is quite easy to do.

1086
00:35:34.905 --> 00:35:36.005
So, you know, I just,

1087
00:35:36.085 --> 00:35:37.925
I I just feel it out and see where we're at.

1088
00:35:37.985 --> 00:35:40.645
Um, you know, I've got an idea of what I want to do.

1089
00:35:40.795 --> 00:35:43.125
I've got an idea of what I, what I wanna do when I'm leading

1090
00:35:43.305 --> 00:35:46.525
or, um, at some, at maybe the last lap or whatever.

1091
00:35:46.525 --> 00:35:48.165
Um, you know, I've watched a lot of tape.

1092
00:35:48.225 --> 00:35:49.605
You know, I've, I've studied this race,

1093
00:35:49.605 --> 00:35:51.725
like this race ever since we left here last year.

1094
00:35:51.795 --> 00:35:54.005
Like, this has been everything for me and,

1095
00:35:54.625 --> 00:35:55.845
and it is for everyone else.

1096
00:35:55.945 --> 00:35:58.325
You know, I I, I'd be surprised if the half the

1097
00:35:58.325 --> 00:35:59.405
field's not like, like that either.

1098
00:35:59.505 --> 00:36:02.165
But, um, yeah, just feel really comfortable and confident.

1099
00:36:02.175 --> 00:36:03.365
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about last year a little bit</v>

1100
00:36:03.365 --> 00:36:05.205
because Qualified Pole obviously had

1101
00:36:05.205 --> 00:36:06.285
a, a very quick race car.

1102
00:36:06.285 --> 00:36:09.405
Mm-hmm . Remind me. Finished six. Yeah. Six.

1103
00:36:09.405 --> 00:36:12.565
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So something at some point in the race</v>

1104
00:36:12.565 --> 00:36:13.885
didn't play out in your favor.

1105
00:36:13.995 --> 00:36:16.285
Yeah. So what did, what did last year kind

1106
00:36:16.285 --> 00:36:17.885
of teach you about what you need outta the car?

1107
00:36:17.885 --> 00:36:20.165
Mm-hmm . Or where you need to position yourself

1108
00:36:20.265 --> 00:36:22.845
or where you need to be more aggressive, less aggressive

1109
00:36:22.905 --> 00:36:24.485
to be one of those top three,

1110
00:36:24.615 --> 00:36:26.005
let's say with 10 to go? Yeah.

1111
00:36:26.125 --> 00:36:27.365
<v Speaker 4>I think you just gotta manage your</v>

1112
00:36:27.365 --> 00:36:28.605
intensity level a little bit.

1113
00:36:28.785 --> 00:36:31.645
Um, I mean I was, I've never been up the front before.

1114
00:36:31.805 --> 00:36:34.965
I never led the race. So, um, for me I was like really like,

1115
00:36:34.965 --> 00:36:36.965
like, like I started really good

1116
00:36:37.105 --> 00:36:39.165
and made some really good restarts and was aggressive

1117
00:36:39.185 --> 00:36:41.045
and ultimately my goal was to be out the front

1118
00:36:41.065 --> 00:36:42.245
and just like stay there.

1119
00:36:42.245 --> 00:36:43.885
But it's hard to do with the zero package.

1120
00:36:44.145 --> 00:36:45.685
Um, I missed one restart

1121
00:36:45.705 --> 00:36:47.925
and that was actually the restart that Joseph got me,

1122
00:36:47.925 --> 00:36:50.125
plus like four others and put himself in position.

1123
00:36:50.185 --> 00:36:53.925
But, so from a driving perspective, uh,

1124
00:36:53.955 --> 00:36:55.325
that was where I made the mistake.

1125
00:36:55.665 --> 00:36:58.485
Um, but then from a mechanical perspective,

1126
00:36:58.915 --> 00:37:01.725
basically from the start, as soon as we took off my clutch

1127
00:37:01.725 --> 00:37:03.605
by point, that wasn't actually a thing.

1128
00:37:03.825 --> 00:37:06.205
It was just basically I was just dumping the clutch

1129
00:37:06.205 --> 00:37:07.405
and hoping it wouldn't stall.

1130
00:37:07.465 --> 00:37:09.005
And it was really difficult.

1131
00:37:09.025 --> 00:37:10.365
And that was a mistake by the team,

1132
00:37:10.385 --> 00:37:12.325
but we, we, we know where we went wrong

1133
00:37:12.385 --> 00:37:14.805
and um, it was a good learning year for us all.

1134
00:37:15.225 --> 00:37:17.485
Um, but yeah, the learnings that I had from that, that

1135
00:37:17.515 --> 00:37:19.845
that race was big for me and, and where I'm at.

1136
00:37:20.225 --> 00:37:22.885
<v Speaker 1>And then how much do you supplement that with trying</v>

1137
00:37:22.885 --> 00:37:24.165
to learn off what Joseph did?

1138
00:37:24.245 --> 00:37:25.365
I mean, you obviously have access

1139
00:37:25.365 --> 00:37:26.565
to everything that he's got.

1140
00:37:26.745 --> 00:37:30.325
Mm-hmm . You know, last year's race was very different from

1141
00:37:30.325 --> 00:37:32.565
2023 in terms of kind of like how it ended,

1142
00:37:32.625 --> 00:37:33.765
how it unfolded mm-hmm .

1143
00:37:33.945 --> 00:37:36.925
But in this case you saw, you can see the data,

1144
00:37:37.065 --> 00:37:38.565
you can see the use of tools.

1145
00:37:38.565 --> 00:37:39.605
Yeah. You can see the car

1146
00:37:39.845 --> 00:37:40.925
positioning everything that he did.

1147
00:37:40.995 --> 00:37:42.285
Yeah. Do you go back

1148
00:37:42.285 --> 00:37:44.885
and really dive into his stuff as well? Yeah. I've

1149
00:37:44.885 --> 00:37:46.205
<v Speaker 4>Watched his whole race</v>
<v Speaker 1>And so what,</v>

1150
00:37:46.275 --> 00:37:48.405
what have you gleaned from what he did

1151
00:37:48.425 --> 00:37:50.525
that's something you want to try to emulate? Um,

1152
00:37:50.605 --> 00:37:52.645
<v Speaker 4>I think it's just the way he is attacking the restarts</v>

1153
00:37:52.645 --> 00:37:54.405
and, and experimenting that high line.

1154
00:37:54.605 --> 00:37:56.445
I mean, there's not many people better than Joseph at

1155
00:37:56.445 --> 00:37:58.405
finding a, a, a second groove.

1156
00:37:58.665 --> 00:38:01.565
And, um, you know, and experimenting with that and,

1157
00:38:01.585 --> 00:38:05.125
and that past, that happened at turn three on the last lap

1158
00:38:05.285 --> 00:38:06.805
didn't just happen on the last lap.

1159
00:38:07.355 --> 00:38:09.725
Just like that. Like, he had been feeling it out.

1160
00:38:09.725 --> 00:38:11.965
He actually made a move there and a restart before.

1161
00:38:12.385 --> 00:38:14.645
Um, you know, he was feeling it out for a long time

1162
00:38:14.645 --> 00:38:15.845
and had the confidence to do that.

1163
00:38:16.385 --> 00:38:19.405
Um, so yeah, like for me, I think you,

1164
00:38:19.405 --> 00:38:21.245
you're just constantly learning throughout

1165
00:38:21.245 --> 00:38:22.365
the, the 200 laps.

1166
00:38:22.545 --> 00:38:25.725
Um, and ultimately you just gotta be aggressive when you

1167
00:38:25.725 --> 00:38:27.125
need to be and put yourself in position.

1168
00:38:27.645 --> 00:38:29.605
I really understand that. And, um, yeah,

1169
00:38:30.045 --> 00:38:32.405
I think starting like P 10 where we're at right now, like

1170
00:38:33.065 --> 00:38:34.485
I'm lowkey like kind of excited.

1171
00:38:34.515 --> 00:38:36.365
Like, 'cause 'cause I, I can say a bit of few at the start,

1172
00:38:36.425 --> 00:38:38.045
you know, I know we've got great pitch stops.

1173
00:38:38.045 --> 00:38:39.245
I've gotta be good on my exchanges.

1174
00:38:39.945 --> 00:38:41.365
We can jump a few in the first stint,

1175
00:38:41.365 --> 00:38:42.525
jump a few in the second stint

1176
00:38:42.525 --> 00:38:44.205
and find ourselves in a really good spot.

1177
00:38:44.205 --> 00:38:46.005
Halfway, three quarters of race in,

1178
00:38:46.105 --> 00:38:47.205
you know, we're right in the game.

1179
00:38:47.865 --> 00:38:50.685
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's safe to say that, looking back on it,</v>

1180
00:38:50.825 --> 00:38:52.205
you probably wouldn't have said this last year,

1181
00:38:52.225 --> 00:38:53.485
but looking back on it

1182
00:38:53.515 --> 00:38:56.365
that you weren't quite ready to win? Oh,

1183
00:38:56.665 --> 00:38:57.665
<v Speaker 4>For sure.</v>

1184
00:38:57.665 --> 00:38:58.645
You, you think you are, right?

1185
00:38:58.725 --> 00:39:00.365
I mean, at that time, if I told you last year

1186
00:39:00.425 --> 00:39:01.805
and I was sitting here, you know,

1187
00:39:01.805 --> 00:39:02.845
I was ready to win the 500.

1188
00:39:02.915 --> 00:39:04.725
Like, I mean, if it happened, yeah.

1189
00:39:04.985 --> 00:39:06.045
You could say I was ready. Right.

1190
00:39:06.045 --> 00:39:08.165
But I, like, I I, I have learned

1191
00:39:08.265 --> 00:39:10.885
so much in the last 12 months about like

1192
00:39:10.885 --> 00:39:11.885
what I could do better

1193
00:39:12.225 --> 00:39:15.205
and it's just so different running at the front Yeah.

1194
00:39:15.395 --> 00:39:20.205
Than it is being like 15th or 20th to 32nd. Mm-hmm .

1195
00:39:20.285 --> 00:39:21.525
And that's really where, where I was

1196
00:39:21.745 --> 00:39:24.565
before, just from qualifying bad or, or whatever.

1197
00:39:24.665 --> 00:39:27.165
So qualifying at the front, understanding the Fast 12,

1198
00:39:27.165 --> 00:39:28.605
understanding that all that sort

1199
00:39:28.605 --> 00:39:32.165
of cadence throughout the week as well, um, was huge for me.

1200
00:39:32.305 --> 00:39:33.305
Mm-hmm.

1201
00:39:34.195 --> 00:39:37.045
<v Speaker 1>Winning the 500 would be pretty neat.</v>

1202
00:39:37.545 --> 00:39:40.205
<v Speaker 4>Yes.</v>
<v Speaker 1>What's the celebration like for Scott Mgl?</v>

1203
00:39:40.225 --> 00:39:41.325
<v Speaker 4>You know what it's like.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Well,</v>

1204
00:39:41.325 --> 00:39:42.365
yeah, I mean, it's silver bullets,

1205
00:39:42.365 --> 00:39:43.365
<v Speaker 4>Right?</v>

1206
00:39:43.365 --> 00:39:43.525
Yeah, yeah. No, but yeah, I know,

1207
00:39:43.545 --> 00:39:45.125
but it's just like, I'll probably go missing .

1208
00:39:45.765 --> 00:39:48.325
It's like there's, like, there's, there's no like 50

1209
00:39:48.325 --> 00:39:50.285
<v Speaker 1>50 chance you missed a drink. There's</v>

1210
00:39:50.685 --> 00:39:54.005
<v Speaker 4>Probably 75, like 25 in favor</v>

1211
00:39:54.065 --> 00:39:55.925
of like me missing Detroit.

1212
00:39:56.385 --> 00:39:58.165
At the very least. If I win the 500 at the

1213
00:39:58.165 --> 00:40:00.685
<v Speaker 1>Wind photos the next morning, 7:00 AM the next morning,</v>

1214
00:40:00.685 --> 00:40:02.605
<v Speaker 4>Sunglasses on. Yeah, no,</v>

1215
00:40:03.175 --> 00:40:04.045
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be weekend at</v>

1216
00:40:04.045 --> 00:40:06.125
burning, just having to hold 'em up

1217
00:40:06.125 --> 00:40:07.125
<v Speaker 4>With sun.</v>

1218
00:40:07.125 --> 00:40:08.525
Dude, when I want Bathurst, uh, I had a,

1219
00:40:08.645 --> 00:40:10.285
I had a TV call time in Australia,

1220
00:40:10.355 --> 00:40:13.165
like 6:45 AM live tv National.

1221
00:40:13.845 --> 00:40:15.245
National. It was a today show. Like it was.

1222
00:40:15.245 --> 00:40:16.405
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1223
00:40:16.445 --> 00:40:18.125
I, I did myself a mischief on

1224
00:40:18.125 --> 00:40:19.325
that  that was like, that was bad.

1225
00:40:19.325 --> 00:40:21.445
But, um, yeah, I, I learnt from my mistake straight

1226
00:40:21.445 --> 00:40:22.845
<v Speaker 1>From the bar to the studio,</v>
<v Speaker 4>Basically.</v>

1227
00:40:22.845 --> 00:40:25.845
Yeah. That was, it was bar shower tv. Nice.

1228
00:40:26.025 --> 00:40:28.925
Um, but no, look, I I, you gotta celebrate the wins. Yeah.

1229
00:40:29.105 --> 00:40:32.445
And, um, you know, this will be like,

1230
00:40:33.155 --> 00:40:34.925
this will be the biggest win in my career

1231
00:40:35.225 --> 00:40:37.485
and it would be incredible and we all say it,

1232
00:40:37.485 --> 00:40:38.645
but it just genuinely would.

1233
00:40:38.645 --> 00:40:40.565
I've, I've, I owe a lot to IndyCar

1234
00:40:40.565 --> 00:40:42.005
and I owe a lot to like, been here.

1235
00:40:42.025 --> 00:40:44.165
And I, and I love this place more than anything.

1236
00:40:44.345 --> 00:40:46.605
And, um, yeah, just, it would be incredible.

1237
00:40:46.905 --> 00:40:49.245
And yeah, I, I, I just, I have No.

1238
00:40:49.565 --> 00:40:51.125
Everyone's like, well, what are you gonna do when you win?

1239
00:40:51.125 --> 00:40:53.765
Like, when you ask that question, I have no idea. Yeah.

1240
00:40:53.765 --> 00:40:56.045
Yeah. Like, I'm literally, I, I'm like lowkey.

1241
00:40:56.195 --> 00:40:58.605
Like I think I've, I've got like a DHD as well, like,

1242
00:40:58.605 --> 00:41:00.685
I'm sort of like a little bit intention disorder

1243
00:41:00.685 --> 00:41:02.205
and I, I, I, I get excited

1244
00:41:02.225 --> 00:41:04.445
and I dunno what I'm gonna do, dude.

1245
00:41:04.465 --> 00:41:07.325
It could be a wild card. It could be a massive wild card.

1246
00:41:07.325 --> 00:41:09.125
Like what I'll do, I'm this front straight could

1247
00:41:09.125 --> 00:41:10.565
<v Speaker 1>Be pretty entertaining. But</v>

1248
00:41:10.565 --> 00:41:13.685
<v Speaker 4>Like, what if you like, what if you like park it, like,</v>

1249
00:41:13.745 --> 00:41:15.685
I'm not gonna do a burnout on the bricks,

1250
00:41:15.745 --> 00:41:18.085
but maybe like, park it against like nose it up. Like,

1251
00:41:18.085 --> 00:41:19.085
<v Speaker 1>Okay.</v>

1252
00:41:19.085 --> 00:41:20.805
It's like old, old, like early two thousands NASCAR style

1253
00:41:20.805 --> 00:41:22.845
where they like park it up against the wall.

1254
00:41:22.845 --> 00:41:24.805
Yeah. And then just did like the, the standing burnout.

1255
00:41:24.865 --> 00:41:26.645
<v Speaker 4>But Yeah. But I don't even know if I wanna do a burn.</v>

1256
00:41:26.965 --> 00:41:29.965
I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm an old, I've never, so you know what?

1257
00:41:30.155 --> 00:41:32.045
I've actually never stepped foot on the bricks.

1258
00:41:32.305 --> 00:41:33.685
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you're one of those guys</v>
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah.</v>

1259
00:41:33.685 --> 00:41:35.325
On the straight, yeah. Yeah. I've stepped foot on the,

1260
00:41:35.325 --> 00:41:36.565
like, when we're walking out.

1261
00:41:36.585 --> 00:41:37.725
But like, that's just how it is. Yeah.

1262
00:41:37.725 --> 00:41:39.125
But like, on the, on the straight.

1263
00:41:39.625 --> 00:41:41.645
So like, I think I'll just like,

1264
00:41:41.915 --> 00:41:43.725
like walk the plank on the bricks

1265
00:41:43.725 --> 00:41:45.245
for the first time. Like, I've never done it.

1266
00:41:45.265 --> 00:41:48.285
<v Speaker 1>We caught video of, uh, VKS dad jumping over the bricks.</v>

1267
00:41:48.355 --> 00:41:50.325
Even just in like, the paddock. Really? You

1268
00:41:50.325 --> 00:41:51.325
<v Speaker 4>Will not I respect that.</v>

1269
00:41:51.325 --> 00:41:53.005
Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of cool for me. It's respect. Yeah.

1270
00:41:53.005 --> 00:41:55.165
Yeah. I, I, for sure. I, I've never touched a trophy.

1271
00:41:55.315 --> 00:41:57.125
I've never touched, like, I never touched the

1272
00:41:57.125 --> 00:41:58.285
Bathurst trophy before I won it.

1273
00:41:58.285 --> 00:42:01.405
Yeah. Um, and it's just a respect thing. Yeah.

1274
00:42:01.665 --> 00:42:04.365
<v Speaker 1>How many Bathurst 1000 winners have won the in 500?</v>

1275
00:42:04.755 --> 00:42:06.125
<v Speaker 4>None.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you be the first?</v>

1276
00:42:06.145 --> 00:42:07.565
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I would love to be the first. Yeah.</v>

1277
00:42:07.565 --> 00:42:08.845
Best of luck buddy. Appreciate it.

1278
00:42:11.915 --> 00:42:14.685
<v Speaker 1>Rolling. Rolling, rolling. Do you know what rolling means?</v>

1279
00:42:14.865 --> 00:42:16.765
Do you know why? We're rolling? We're rolling.

1280
00:42:16.835 --> 00:42:19.365
It's the rolling. Yes. Yeah. You've done this before.

1281
00:42:19.365 --> 00:42:21.485
Rolling. You're an expert. Super.

1282
00:42:21.585 --> 00:42:23.805
You roll pretty well yourself. Yes, I do.

1283
00:42:23.945 --> 00:42:28.525
In, in a rolling machine. You roll better than most?

1284
00:42:29.275 --> 00:42:33.285
Sometimes. Sometimes I will. Lately more often than not.

1285
00:42:33.385 --> 00:42:37.085
You're rolling. Pretty well. Pretty okay. Pretty okay.

1286
00:42:37.105 --> 00:42:40.565
Did we start? Yeah. Okay. It's uh, no, don't change. Don't.

1287
00:42:40.665 --> 00:42:42.565
No, I'm not. You just wanna get more comfortable?

1288
00:42:42.905 --> 00:42:44.285
No, it's the opposite. I'm just

1289
00:42:44.345 --> 00:42:46.245
too, I need to get more comfortable.

1290
00:42:46.245 --> 00:42:47.805
Just get comfortable. Just get comfortable.

1291
00:42:47.835 --> 00:42:49.525
What kinda shoes are those? Oh, those are on,

1292
00:42:49.825 --> 00:42:51.325
on, I like those, those are my shoes.

1293
00:42:51.325 --> 00:42:54.085
Shoes. The shoes on. I run on those sometimes. Well, yeah.

1294
00:42:54.085 --> 00:42:56.645
Well, I mean, if you're at home, you want them off. Yes.

1295
00:42:56.795 --> 00:42:57.885
It'd be weird to walk around.

1296
00:42:58.735 --> 00:43:00.595
Do do, do, do you wear your shoes in like in your house? No.

1297
00:43:00.595 --> 00:43:02.275
No. Never. Never. It's a very American thing.

1298
00:43:02.335 --> 00:43:03.675
Did you, have you noticed that? What?

1299
00:43:04.395 --> 00:43:06.075
Americans wear their shoes inside. Oh yeah.

1300
00:43:06.075 --> 00:43:07.715
I don't understand that. I don't get it either. Yeah.

1301
00:43:07.865 --> 00:43:09.595
Cans don't do that. Like you Yeah, it's weird.

1302
00:43:09.655 --> 00:43:10.675
Hey, you come in the front door,

1303
00:43:10.675 --> 00:43:12.315
you take your shoes off and you carry Absolutely.

1304
00:43:12.315 --> 00:43:14.195
Yeah. You don't wanna take your &lt;inaudible&gt; like

1305
00:43:14.195 --> 00:43:15.395
the, from out into house.

1306
00:43:15.395 --> 00:43:16.635
Yeah. You don want that over your house. Yeah. I dunno.

1307
00:43:16.635 --> 00:43:17.555
Sorry. You got, I don't

1308
00:43:17.555 --> 00:43:18.635
understand some stuff running around.

1309
00:43:18.635 --> 00:43:21.235
You have, I have one kid keep running around. You don't.

1310
00:43:21.415 --> 00:43:24.315
No, I don't. No. . You keep trying.

1311
00:43:24.495 --> 00:43:25.835
You keep, you keep pushing for that.

1312
00:43:25.905 --> 00:43:28.235
It's the best you will see. That's what you keep telling me.

1313
00:43:28.415 --> 00:43:30.515
Yes. That's what you keep telling me you need to. Okay.

1314
00:43:30.815 --> 00:43:32.195
So you're still, you're still loving it.

1315
00:43:32.465 --> 00:43:34.435
Alex didn't sleep last night, so I'm not gonna ask him.

1316
00:43:34.715 --> 00:43:36.075
I know, I just spoke to him.

1317
00:43:36.175 --> 00:43:39.995
He was like, well, it was a rough night. It gets better.

1318
00:43:40.145 --> 00:43:41.835
Yeah. Right. That, that passes, right? Yes.

1319
00:43:41.835 --> 00:43:43.955
It was like three months. Then it starts maybe a little

1320
00:43:43.955 --> 00:43:45.035
bit more like a little 12 months.

1321
00:43:45.035 --> 00:43:46.635
12. Okay. That's a lot more. Yes.

1322
00:43:46.635 --> 00:43:47.875
And it, it just goes up and down

1323
00:43:47.875 --> 00:43:49.115
once you think you figured it out.

1324
00:43:49.115 --> 00:43:50.275
Right. Then it just goes to &lt;inaudible&gt;

1325
00:43:50.375 --> 00:43:51.515
and then you are like, oh, yeah.

1326
00:43:51.825 --> 00:43:54.595
Okay. But she's doing well now. She's doing great. Yeah.

1327
00:43:54.615 --> 00:43:57.355
How, how old is she? Two, uh, 18 months. 18 months. Yeah.

1328
00:43:57.385 --> 00:43:58.835
Okay. Almost two. So, walking.

1329
00:43:59.425 --> 00:44:03.275
Yeah, walking, running, talking, talking back.

1330
00:44:04.065 --> 00:44:07.395
, well, like yanga and, yeah. I have couple words.

1331
00:44:07.675 --> 00:44:09.675
I have a hard time understanding her. Oh, okay. Yeah.

1332
00:44:09.695 --> 00:44:12.315
She, she wants something and I just, here's the water

1333
00:44:12.375 --> 00:44:13.435
and she just wants to play.

1334
00:44:13.435 --> 00:44:16.675
And I'm like, okay. Well, sorry. I, I, I tried.

1335
00:44:17.335 --> 00:44:20.035
You just want her to want what you want her to want.

1336
00:44:20.295 --> 00:44:23.155
So that way she What I, that way it's taking care of. Yeah.

1337
00:44:23.295 --> 00:44:24.315
So you, you speak

1338
00:44:24.315 --> 00:44:26.595
to race cars better currently than you speak to children?

1339
00:44:27.175 --> 00:44:28.915
Or you understand race cars better

1340
00:44:28.915 --> 00:44:30.595
than you understand your kid? It depends.

1341
00:44:30.735 --> 00:44:33.125
<v Speaker 5>Yes. Okay. On the situation. But yes, most on both, I</v>

1342
00:44:33.125 --> 00:44:33.805
<v Speaker 1>Would say. Like, sometimes</v>

1343
00:44:33.805 --> 00:44:35.685
<v Speaker 5>You don't, sometimes I don't understand the car,</v>

1344
00:44:35.785 --> 00:44:38.125
the car on telling me something

1345
00:44:38.145 --> 00:44:39.845
and I just don't listen. And yeah.

1346
00:44:40.035 --> 00:44:41.245
<v Speaker 1>When was the last time that happened?</v>

1347
00:44:41.245 --> 00:44:43.805
Because, Alex, I gotta be honest with you, so far this year,

1348
00:44:44.025 --> 00:44:46.165
you and your car have been speaking the same language.

1349
00:44:48.075 --> 00:44:50.965
<v Speaker 5>Well, there's some practice sessions that I'm like, ah,</v>

1350
00:44:51.265 --> 00:44:53.085
you know, like, this doesn't turn very well.

1351
00:44:53.105 --> 00:44:55.765
And then we look at data and uh, we talk with the engineer

1352
00:44:55.765 --> 00:44:57.845
and it's like, well, maybe it turns too much.

1353
00:44:58.225 --> 00:45:01.165
So . And I'm like, okay, whatever

1354
00:45:01.165 --> 00:45:02.165
<v Speaker 1>You say.</v>

1355
00:45:02.165 --> 00:45:05.835
Fair enough. Um, you are, are you,

1356
00:45:06.095 --> 00:45:07.355
are you guys, have you moved into your house

1357
00:45:07.575 --> 00:45:08.575
<v Speaker 5>Yet?</v>

1358
00:45:08.575 --> 00:45:10.195
Yes. Um, January. Oh, January. January.

1359
00:45:10.265 --> 00:45:11.515
Like 15th or so. What was the

1360
00:45:11.515 --> 00:45:12.515
<v Speaker 1>House building?</v>

1361
00:45:12.615 --> 00:45:16.355
Uh, whole thing. Like stressful. That sounds awful.

1362
00:45:16.505 --> 00:45:17.675
It's like my worst nightmare.

1363
00:45:17.905 --> 00:45:21.635
<v Speaker 5>It's stressful, but you need to, if you do it one day,</v>

1364
00:45:21.695 --> 00:45:24.635
you need to allow your wife to make all the decisions. I,

1365
00:45:24.755 --> 00:45:26.475
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was never a question. But</v>

1366
00:45:26.485 --> 00:45:28.835
<v Speaker 5>She's gonna try and trap you sometimes.</v>

1367
00:45:28.835 --> 00:45:31.035
Correct. She's gonna be like, okay, James. Mm-hmm .

1368
00:45:31.425 --> 00:45:33.595
What do you think about these two or three floors?

1369
00:45:33.645 --> 00:45:35.475
Right. You don't decide.

1370
00:45:35.575 --> 00:45:37.195
<v Speaker 1>No. She already knows what the floor is.</v>

1371
00:45:37.195 --> 00:45:38.235
Exactly. She's just testing you.

1372
00:45:38.295 --> 00:45:41.155
<v Speaker 5>Yes. Yeah. So I had that trap like four or five times.</v>

1373
00:45:41.155 --> 00:45:44.955
Mm-hmm . Um, it was bad for like, the first three times.

1374
00:45:45.215 --> 00:45:46.915
And then I understood that.

1375
00:45:46.955 --> 00:45:49.795
I had to say, well, I'm leaning towards that.

1376
00:45:50.175 --> 00:45:51.795
And then I would look at her face. Right.

1377
00:45:51.815 --> 00:45:54.755
And then I would say, but Right. So that one is better.

1378
00:45:54.935 --> 00:45:56.475
<v Speaker 1>So what I, what I do, I know this</v>

1379
00:45:56.675 --> 00:45:58.155
'cause we renovated, we haven't built, we

1380
00:45:58.155 --> 00:45:59.475
<v Speaker 5>Renovate. Okay. So it's the same thing. And</v>

1381
00:45:59.475 --> 00:46:00.835
<v Speaker 1>It's, it's, there's like three options</v>

1382
00:46:01.015 --> 00:46:02.795
and I'll be like, this one,

1383
00:46:03.455 --> 00:46:05.675
and then I glance up. 'cause you can immediately

1384
00:46:05.675 --> 00:46:06.795
<v Speaker 5>See. You can tell I'll</v>

1385
00:46:06.795 --> 00:46:08.035
<v Speaker 1>Be like, is awful.</v>

1386
00:46:08.185 --> 00:46:10.075
Exactly. No chance on that. No bueno.

1387
00:46:10.075 --> 00:46:11.915
But like, if you look is my fa like

1388
00:46:11.915 --> 00:46:13.235
you can just, you can read it. I,

1389
00:46:13.735 --> 00:46:16.755
<v Speaker 5>So the first three times I, I completely failed.</v>

1390
00:46:16.895 --> 00:46:18.795
<v Speaker 1>You just like answered honestly and Yes. Don't</v>

1391
00:46:18.795 --> 00:46:19.795
<v Speaker 5>You that she was like, no.</v>

1392
00:46:19.795 --> 00:46:22.035
Why? Why should we put this floor? Because I don't like it.

1393
00:46:22.195 --> 00:46:26.155
And I'm like, okay. Yeah, you're right. So yes. Um, if you,

1394
00:46:26.155 --> 00:46:28.195
<v Speaker 1>If you can get to the point where it's like,</v>

1395
00:46:28.505 --> 00:46:30.315
give me three options that you like,

1396
00:46:30.375 --> 00:46:31.755
or two options that you like.

1397
00:46:31.775 --> 00:46:34.155
And you're actually just actually happy with either one.

1398
00:46:34.275 --> 00:46:36.715
I can tell you which one I'd prefer. It doesn't matter.

1399
00:46:36.975 --> 00:46:40.115
<v Speaker 5>No. It's still a trap. Just, just, just let her decide.</v>

1400
00:46:40.215 --> 00:46:42.635
<v Speaker 1>You're not selling me on the whole building a house thing.</v>

1401
00:46:43.265 --> 00:46:45.875
<v Speaker 5>It's, uh,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Is it worth it? Are you happy now? Oh</v>

1402
00:46:45.875 --> 00:46:46.155
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. We're</v>

1403
00:46:46.155 --> 00:46:47.155
<v Speaker 1>Super</v>
<v Speaker 5>Happy.</v>

1404
00:46:47.155 --> 00:46:47.555
Your house is great. I'm super happy. Yes.

1405
00:46:47.555 --> 00:46:49.155
<v Speaker 1>You love your place? Yeah,</v>
<v Speaker 5>Everything's good.</v>

1406
00:46:49.275 --> 00:46:50.275
<v Speaker 1>I</v>
<v Speaker 5>Love it.</v>

1407
00:46:50.275 --> 00:46:53.915
<v Speaker 1>House is good. Racing's going pretty well. Pretty okay.</v>

1408
00:46:53.915 --> 00:46:55.235
Pretty okay. Yeah. I would say

1409
00:46:55.235 --> 00:46:56.075
<v Speaker 5>Decent. Uh,</v>

1410
00:46:56.095 --> 00:46:57.275
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about your qualifying?</v>

1411
00:46:57.925 --> 00:47:01.635
<v Speaker 5>Qualifying? Uh, very good. And then not good. Yeah.</v>

1412
00:47:01.695 --> 00:47:02.795
And not good. You

1413
00:47:02.795 --> 00:47:05.435
<v Speaker 1>Seemed, I said this to Kirkwood and I feel bad.</v>

1414
00:47:05.495 --> 00:47:07.035
I'm gonna say the same thing. 'cause he was kind of like,

1415
00:47:07.035 --> 00:47:08.715
that's a jerk thing to say.

1416
00:47:08.785 --> 00:47:13.195
Okay. But like from the open test. Yes. I was like, Paul.

1417
00:47:13.975 --> 00:47:15.755
And then like first two days of practice,

1418
00:47:15.835 --> 00:47:17.475
I was like, probably Paul.

1419
00:47:18.455 --> 00:47:21.395
And then as we went further on, I was like, shot for pole

1420
00:47:22.015 --> 00:47:23.835
and then we got to pole and it was no pole.

1421
00:47:24.105 --> 00:47:27.675
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Kirkwood also had a really quick car</v>

1422
00:47:27.775 --> 00:47:29.485
and then just kind of slowly lost speed

1423
00:47:29.505 --> 00:47:30.885
for no reason and didn't understand.

1424
00:47:30.945 --> 00:47:32.125
Is that sort of what happened to you guys?

1425
00:47:32.705 --> 00:47:35.365
<v Speaker 5>Yes and no. I mean, I mean, we were P one on Saturday.</v>

1426
00:47:35.475 --> 00:47:36.765
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's

1427
00:47:36.765 --> 00:47:37.765
<v Speaker 1>What shot for pole.</v>

1428
00:47:38.145 --> 00:47:41.205
<v Speaker 5>But with the wind suddenly, like my car was,</v>

1429
00:47:41.385 --> 00:47:43.405
it was a struggle, but it was super fast.

1430
00:47:43.435 --> 00:47:45.645
Like it was easy to do two 30 threes. Right.

1431
00:47:46.025 --> 00:47:49.245
Um, but then on great conditions, I was struggling

1432
00:47:49.245 --> 00:47:52.405
to do two 30 twos and I ended up doing two 30 ones.

1433
00:47:52.465 --> 00:47:55.205
Um, I think I went too aggressive on downforce,

1434
00:47:55.235 --> 00:47:57.165
like too low to trim.

1435
00:47:57.625 --> 00:47:58.805
And I started scrubbing.

1436
00:47:58.845 --> 00:48:01.565
I started like fighting with it and that was like, not good.

1437
00:48:01.705 --> 00:48:05.485
Um, so Fex was terrible. Um, but it was my fault.

1438
00:48:05.485 --> 00:48:08.045
Like I was pushing for that to try and get the pole

1439
00:48:08.045 --> 00:48:09.165
and we didn't really have it.

1440
00:48:09.265 --> 00:48:12.285
So, yeah. I mean, sometimes it goes like that,

1441
00:48:12.905 --> 00:48:14.565
<v Speaker 1>But I like that you kind of put your hand up</v>

1442
00:48:14.565 --> 00:48:15.765
and say, that's kind of on me.

1443
00:48:15.925 --> 00:48:17.685
'cause I was pushing the engineers to go more.

1444
00:48:17.685 --> 00:48:18.765
Yeah. I wanted to go aggressive.

1445
00:48:19.085 --> 00:48:20.765
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I was like, we're already in the fast six.</v>

1446
00:48:20.825 --> 00:48:23.725
We, we were like, uh, fifth in fast, 12.

1447
00:48:23.785 --> 00:48:26.285
So I was like, man, the only chance I have is to go crazy

1448
00:48:26.825 --> 00:48:27.965
on Downforce, try

1449
00:48:27.965 --> 00:48:30.485
and make a really good first lap, second lap,

1450
00:48:30.545 --> 00:48:31.605
and then see if I can finish.

1451
00:48:32.065 --> 00:48:33.965
But yeah, I got the first lap and it was

1452
00:48:34.595 --> 00:48:37.765
<v Speaker 1>Because from what I understand, Schwartz</v>

1453
00:48:38.065 --> 00:48:39.725
and Sato went the other way,

1454
00:48:39.745 --> 00:48:41.925
or at least didn't trim for the fast six. They

1455
00:48:42.085 --> 00:48:43.085
<v Speaker 5>Actually went the other way. Yeah,</v>

1456
00:48:43.085 --> 00:48:43.765
<v Speaker 1>They added. Yeah.</v>

1457
00:48:43.875 --> 00:48:45.165
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Which, yeah,</v>

1458
00:48:45.275 --> 00:48:46.325
<v Speaker 1>It's so counterintuitive.</v>

1459
00:48:46.625 --> 00:48:48.965
But that's what, that's the mind, you know.

1460
00:48:49.385 --> 00:48:51.725
<v Speaker 5>But I mean the, the other years that I fight</v>

1461
00:48:51.865 --> 00:48:53.685
for Paul in 22 mm-hmm .

1462
00:48:53.765 --> 00:48:57.405
I, I was second and Scott was first. I didn't trim enough.

1463
00:48:57.405 --> 00:49:00.125
Then in 23 I trim a lot and I got the pole.

1464
00:49:00.305 --> 00:49:03.325
So I was like, man, we need to trim as much as possible.

1465
00:49:03.345 --> 00:49:05.805
But yeah, I mean, it's this place, man. It's this place.

1466
00:49:05.825 --> 00:49:08.725
It gets you like, whenever you think you have it dial in.

1467
00:49:08.725 --> 00:49:10.405
Yeah. And whenever you think you got it,

1468
00:49:10.865 --> 00:49:12.045
it just slaps you in the face

1469
00:49:12.045 --> 00:49:13.925
and says, no, Alex, you stay here.

1470
00:49:14.265 --> 00:49:16.685
<v Speaker 1>I'm in charge. Yes.</v>
<v Speaker 5>I'll run the show. I, I will tell</v>

1471
00:49:16.685 --> 00:49:17.685
<v Speaker 1>You where you go.</v>

1472
00:49:17.685 --> 00:49:19.765
You don't tell anyone else where you go. Exactly.

1473
00:49:19.915 --> 00:49:21.605
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. That's,</v>
<v Speaker 1>That's, that's just mean.</v>

1474
00:49:22.005 --> 00:49:23.045
I don't know why it has to be like that.

1475
00:49:23.155 --> 00:49:25.285
<v Speaker 5>It's okay. It's okay. As long as I understand.</v>

1476
00:49:25.755 --> 00:49:26.925
It's like building house. You gotta respect it.

1477
00:49:26.925 --> 00:49:29.205
You gotta respect. As long as I respect that, it's okay.

1478
00:49:29.435 --> 00:49:33.005
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Okay. So race car. Yes. How's the race car feel?</v>

1479
00:49:33.945 --> 00:49:36.365
<v Speaker 5>It depends on the session.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Okay.</v>

1480
00:49:37.185 --> 00:49:40.005
That's, that's not great because

1481
00:49:40.805 --> 00:49:44.045
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I feel like Superman in some sessions</v>

1482
00:49:44.065 --> 00:49:46.565
and I feel like we are missing a lot in some others.

1483
00:49:46.905 --> 00:49:48.805
<v Speaker 1>Is there a correlation between the sessions</v>

1484
00:49:48.805 --> 00:49:50.685
where it feels good and where it feels bad?

1485
00:49:51.025 --> 00:49:52.805
Say like from a weather condition standpoint?

1486
00:49:53.345 --> 00:49:56.165
<v Speaker 5>No.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's even worse. Yeah.</v>

1487
00:49:56.275 --> 00:49:57.285
Just in terms of the unknown,

1488
00:49:57.285 --> 00:49:58.285
<v Speaker 5>That's not encouraging.</v>

1489
00:49:58.315 --> 00:50:02.005
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So you, we still have, when, when we're doing this,</v>

1490
00:50:02.005 --> 00:50:03.045
we still have one session left.

1491
00:50:03.265 --> 00:50:04.365
Yes. Carb day practice.

1492
00:50:04.785 --> 00:50:06.085
Um, do we have big plans

1493
00:50:06.145 --> 00:50:07.685
for carb day or is it kind of just Yes.

1494
00:50:07.685 --> 00:50:08.925
Still fast, right?

1495
00:50:08.925 --> 00:50:12.125
Overtake Feel like that's a pretty standard plan.

1496
00:50:12.395 --> 00:50:13.405
<v Speaker 5>Well sometimes it works.</v>

1497
00:50:14.155 --> 00:50:15.805
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sometimes it works. Yes.</v>

1498
00:50:15.905 --> 00:50:17.685
Um, do you know, I mean, how you're going

1499
00:50:17.685 --> 00:50:19.125
to go about going fast?

1500
00:50:19.265 --> 00:50:21.005
<v Speaker 5>Yes. I think we, we know already</v>

1501
00:50:21.035 --> 00:50:23.725
what time I need from the car to go fast

1502
00:50:24.325 --> 00:50:25.325
<v Speaker 1>Compared to Monday.</v>

1503
00:50:25.325 --> 00:50:27.365
Like are we big, are we making big changes for Monday? No,

1504
00:50:27.505 --> 00:50:28.505
<v Speaker 5>No.</v>

1505
00:50:28.505 --> 00:50:30.365
Big, just like details take a look. Just like, yeah.

1506
00:50:31.105 --> 00:50:33.525
Um, hopefully it works. Honestly, I'm, I'm happy

1507
00:50:33.525 --> 00:50:37.725
with the race car, but there's like five to eight other cars

1508
00:50:37.725 --> 00:50:39.165
that I see that are faster

1509
00:50:39.425 --> 00:50:41.805
or as fast as me, depending on the session.

1510
00:50:42.105 --> 00:50:44.605
So Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

1511
00:50:44.675 --> 00:50:46.245
It's gonna be really, really tough.

1512
00:50:46.505 --> 00:50:48.325
<v Speaker 1>So it's even tough at this point to predict</v>

1513
00:50:48.425 --> 00:50:51.165
who you think the strongest car might be. If it's not you

1514
00:50:51.505 --> 00:50:52.505
<v Speaker 5>Or Joseph.</v>

1515
00:50:52.545 --> 00:50:55.005
<v Speaker 1>You think Joseph Yep. Based, based on what you've seen.</v>

1516
00:50:55.105 --> 00:50:57.205
Yep. Regardless of conditions. Yep.

1517
00:50:57.485 --> 00:50:59.725
Regardless of anything you think Joseph's the car. Yep.

1518
00:50:59.835 --> 00:51:01.205
He's looks very good in traffic. Yeah.

1519
00:51:01.425 --> 00:51:03.405
<v Speaker 5>He looks the best in traffic. Yeah.</v>

1520
00:51:03.505 --> 00:51:05.125
By far and consistently.

1521
00:51:05.425 --> 00:51:09.725
And then there's a, a small gap between first

1522
00:51:09.945 --> 00:51:11.965
and then, uh, second to eighth

1523
00:51:12.265 --> 00:51:14.925
or 10th, I think we, there's bunch, bunch of cars there.

1524
00:51:15.075 --> 00:51:16.525
<v Speaker 1>It's you guys. It's McLaughlin,</v>

1525
00:51:16.635 --> 00:51:18.285
it's in Kirkwood. Yeah. There's a couple of,

1526
00:51:18.715 --> 00:51:20.685
<v Speaker 5>There's there's a McLaren.</v>

1527
00:51:20.715 --> 00:51:23.525
There's a little bit of a mix there that, uh, suddenly.

1528
00:51:23.705 --> 00:51:26.445
But we are like, it, it's a big stack there. Yeah.

1529
00:51:26.905 --> 00:51:30.715
<v Speaker 1>So you unfortunately are</v>

1530
00:51:31.305 --> 00:51:34.435
very well suited to know that coming from the back

1531
00:51:34.435 --> 00:51:37.195
of the field to the front is very possible in a strong car.

1532
00:51:37.225 --> 00:51:38.955
Yeah. Because you had to do it when you were

1533
00:51:39.545 --> 00:51:40.595
hitting pit lane.

1534
00:51:41.335 --> 00:51:42.875
So I'm assuming that

1535
00:51:43.065 --> 00:51:45.635
because Joseph's car's been so good in practice,

1536
00:51:45.695 --> 00:51:47.155
it doesn't really matter where he starts.

1537
00:51:47.295 --> 00:51:49.795
You fully expect him to be up at the front fighting away.

1538
00:51:49.795 --> 00:51:52.195
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Lap 78, he'll be like top five.</v>

1539
00:51:52.655 --> 00:51:56.195
<v Speaker 1>Top five by lap. 78.</v>
<v Speaker 5>85.</v>

1540
00:51:56.295 --> 00:51:58.035
<v Speaker 1>85. Yeah. Okay.</v>

1541
00:51:59.525 --> 00:52:02.025
I'm gonna take the over on that. Yeah.

1542
00:52:02.025 --> 00:52:03.465
Because I think he's gonna make progress.

1543
00:52:03.525 --> 00:52:05.785
But that's a lot by lap. 85.

1544
00:52:05.785 --> 00:52:07.425
<v Speaker 5>85.</v>
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see.</v>

1545
00:52:07.435 --> 00:52:08.745
<v Speaker 5>It'll be fine.</v>
<v Speaker 1>We'll see.</v>

1546
00:52:09.445 --> 00:52:12.585
Um, how do you expect

1547
00:52:12.685 --> 00:52:15.385
or how do you plan to celebrate your ND 500 win?

1548
00:52:15.665 --> 00:52:17.025
<v Speaker 5>I go crazy. What</v>

1549
00:52:17.025 --> 00:52:18.025
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean though?</v>

1550
00:52:18.135 --> 00:52:19.345
Know? Because for you, you,

1551
00:52:19.885 --> 00:52:23.025
and I mean this in genuinely the most respectful way,

1552
00:52:23.535 --> 00:52:26.145
when you say I'll go crazy, I mean for me,

1553
00:52:26.155 --> 00:52:27.985
<v Speaker 5>Maybe for you, it's just a normal day. I was gonna</v>

1554
00:52:27.985 --> 00:52:29.425
<v Speaker 1>Say for just a normal morning for me,</v>

1555
00:52:29.425 --> 00:52:31.265
going crazy is having like two diet cokes

1556
00:52:31.265 --> 00:52:32.945
after eight o'clock, you know, like that.

1557
00:52:32.965 --> 00:52:36.065
Oh my goodness. Oh, right. Like an espresso and pushing

1558
00:52:36.065 --> 00:52:37.065
<v Speaker 5>It.</v>

1559
00:52:37.065 --> 00:52:38.385
<v Speaker 1>Espresso with dessert. Calm down Alex.</v>

1560
00:52:38.575 --> 00:52:39.785
Yeah. You know, you're right

1561
00:52:39.785 --> 00:52:41.865
<v Speaker 5>Because you</v>
<v Speaker 1>Just live and this is a compliment.</v>

1562
00:52:41.865 --> 00:52:44.625
You live in this like perfect state right here.

1563
00:52:44.925 --> 00:52:47.785
You never go here. You never go here. You live right there.

1564
00:52:47.855 --> 00:52:48.945
Good, bad or indifferent.

1565
00:52:48.945 --> 00:52:51.345
And it's so, so impressive behind the wheel.

1566
00:52:52.005 --> 00:52:55.585
So what is no longer behind the wheel? Celebratory Alex?

1567
00:52:55.835 --> 00:52:57.825
Going crazy. Insane Bananas

1568
00:52:57.935 --> 00:52:58.935
<v Speaker 5>Mean bananas.</v>

1569
00:52:58.935 --> 00:53:00.305
I dunno. You don't know James? I dunno.

1570
00:53:00.925 --> 00:53:03.225
<v Speaker 1>But you wanna know.</v>
<v Speaker 5>I wanna know. I wanna know.</v>

1571
00:53:03.225 --> 00:53:05.145
What do you wanna know? But I can tell you that I,

1572
00:53:05.305 --> 00:53:09.905
I would maybe go like maybe a full full Coke, not diet Coke.

1573
00:53:09.905 --> 00:53:11.745
You know? You said full fat Coke. Yeah.

1574
00:53:11.745 --> 00:53:13.225
Full fat and no,

1575
00:53:13.375 --> 00:53:16.105
just pushing the limits a little bit and Wow.

1576
00:53:16.245 --> 00:53:18.665
Yes. And that's considering we have Detroit the week

1577
00:53:18.665 --> 00:53:21.065
after
<v Speaker 1>, you're gonna have quite the,</v>

1578
00:53:21.315 --> 00:53:22.745
quite the sugar hangover on

1579
00:53:22.745 --> 00:53:23.745
<v Speaker 5>Monday.</v>

1580
00:53:23.745 --> 00:53:25.845
No, but honestly I would, I would, um, yeah.

1581
00:53:25.845 --> 00:53:27.965
If I have the that opportunity, I'll, I'll,

1582
00:53:27.965 --> 00:53:29.365
I'll celebrate hard.

1583
00:53:29.585 --> 00:53:33.245
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna celebrate, like at the trak? What's</v>

1584
00:53:33.245 --> 00:53:34.405
<v Speaker 5>Your, whats your like Yes, I'm saying at the track.</v>

1585
00:53:34.465 --> 00:53:36.085
I'm not saying outside the track. No,

1586
00:53:36.085 --> 00:53:37.085
<v Speaker 1>No.</v>

1587
00:53:37.085 --> 00:53:38.445
Okay. So you're gonna do something crazy? Yes.

1588
00:53:38.445 --> 00:53:40.045
Something memorable. Hopefully

1589
00:53:40.155 --> 00:53:42.645
<v Speaker 5>Like</v>
<v Speaker 1>Climbing the fence or like jumping into the thing.</v>

1590
00:53:42.645 --> 00:53:44.565
Like I'm saying like, those guys have their thing,

1591
00:53:44.565 --> 00:53:45.605
right? Yes, exactly. You're

1592
00:53:45.605 --> 00:53:47.205
<v Speaker 5>Gonna have your, I'm not saying like, oh yeah, I'll go</v>

1593
00:53:47.205 --> 00:53:49.445
to the club at like 2:00 AM No, no, no, no.

1594
00:53:49.625 --> 00:53:51.365
I'm saying like at the track. I'll go crazy.

1595
00:53:51.365 --> 00:53:53.285
<v Speaker 1>Something's gonna happen.</v>
<v Speaker 5>Something. I</v>

1596
00:53:53.285 --> 00:53:56.645
<v Speaker 1>Think you should do an entire lap the wrong</v>

1597
00:53:56.645 --> 00:53:57.925
direction. Waving to the fans

1598
00:53:58.435 --> 00:53:59.445
<v Speaker 5>With the car. Yeah,</v>

1599
00:53:59.445 --> 00:54:00.445
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah.</v>

1600
00:54:00.445 --> 00:54:01.365
No running. Yeah. With the car.

1601
00:54:01.915 --> 00:54:03.205
Come to the start finish line.

1602
00:54:03.205 --> 00:54:05.005
Spin around and then drive backwards.

1603
00:54:05.155 --> 00:54:06.965
<v Speaker 5>It's not easy to spin around here. You can</v>

1604
00:54:06.965 --> 00:54:07.965
<v Speaker 1>Do it.</v>

1605
00:54:07.965 --> 00:54:08.685
If I go to turn one and spin around, there's more room.

1606
00:54:08.795 --> 00:54:11.245
Okay. And then drive backwards and wave 12 fans come back.

1607
00:54:11.245 --> 00:54:12.445
<v Speaker 5>That'll be pretty cool. It'll be pretty cool.</v>

1608
00:54:12.445 --> 00:54:13.245
<v Speaker 1>That would be pretty cool. I don't think</v>

1609
00:54:13.245 --> 00:54:14.405
anybody's done that. Okay.

1610
00:54:14.995 --> 00:54:16.085
<v Speaker 5>I'll take</v>
<v Speaker 1>That. You should do that.</v>

1611
00:54:16.635 --> 00:54:18.405
<v Speaker 5>I'll do it. Do it. I'll do it.</v>

1612
00:54:18.405 --> 00:54:19.605
Just do it. I'll do it. All right.

1613
00:54:19.795 --> 00:54:21.925
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can do</v>
<v Speaker 5>It. Yes. So it's done. Go crazy.</v>

1614
00:54:22.235 --> 00:54:24.445
<v Speaker 1>It's done. Okay. Done.</v>
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna do it. Yes. Sweet.</v>

1615
00:54:28.495 --> 00:54:30.005
<v Speaker 6>We're doing this now.</v>
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not.</v>

1616
00:54:30.045 --> 00:54:31.845
I don't, I mean, we're rolling. We're technically recording.

1617
00:54:31.845 --> 00:54:33.165
I don't know if you, I dunno if we started yet. If

1618
00:54:33.165 --> 00:54:35.285
<v Speaker 6>I just keep</v>
<v Speaker 1>Oh, now we're rolling. We're rolling.</v>

1619
00:54:35.715 --> 00:54:36.765
<v Speaker 6>Okay. So good to</v>

1620
00:54:36.765 --> 00:54:37.765
<v Speaker 1>Know.</v>

1621
00:54:37.765 --> 00:54:40.885
Back to making fun of LEOA lot. Good day. Good day. How

1622
00:54:40.885 --> 00:54:41.885
<v Speaker 6>Are you?</v>

1623
00:54:41.885 --> 00:54:42.485
Oh, I'm so good. Okay.

1624
00:54:42.865 --> 00:54:45.045
<v Speaker 1>You were just telling me a story about making fun of Elio.</v>

1625
00:54:45.155 --> 00:54:46.885
Yeah. How explain.

1626
00:54:47.555 --> 00:54:49.525
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, I've been teammates with, uh,</v>

1627
00:54:50.265 --> 00:54:51.805
the goat, uh, yes.

1628
00:54:51.855 --> 00:54:53.725
Scott Dixon. I've heard for a while. Yeah.

1629
00:54:53.725 --> 00:54:56.085
You may have heard of him. And when you give him a bit of,

1630
00:54:57.105 --> 00:55:00.125
he doesn't quite take it quite as well as Helio.

1631
00:55:00.235 --> 00:55:02.285
Okay. So what I do with Helio is I,

1632
00:55:02.565 --> 00:55:03.605
'cause I I used to, I like

1633
00:55:03.605 --> 00:55:05.045
to make granddad jokes with both of them.

1634
00:55:05.045 --> 00:55:07.685
Right.  and, uh, Helio's.

1635
00:55:07.805 --> 00:55:10.325
I think this is 25th Indie 500.

1636
00:55:10.435 --> 00:55:12.885
<v Speaker 1>That sounds slightly high, but it's in that realm.</v>

1637
00:55:12.905 --> 00:55:16.405
<v Speaker 6>It is because he said it 25 times. Like it was crazy.</v>

1638
00:55:16.835 --> 00:55:20.325
Okay. And, uh, this is my 24th year around the sun. Right.

1639
00:55:20.545 --> 00:55:22.165
So he got it. So I basically,

1640
00:55:22.205 --> 00:55:25.285
I was just giving him crap about how, like,

1641
00:55:25.705 --> 00:55:28.205
can he see further than his nose sort of thing, you know?

1642
00:55:28.445 --> 00:55:30.085
'cause his nose is quite large. Anyway. No, .

1643
00:55:30.205 --> 00:55:31.925
This is terrible. Does

1644
00:55:32.315 --> 00:55:34.725
<v Speaker 1>Does he, does he wear glasses in his helmet?</v>

1645
00:55:34.945 --> 00:55:36.085
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't wear glasses. Glasses.</v>

1646
00:55:36.465 --> 00:55:37.765
He should, but you, you can't

1647
00:55:37.765 --> 00:55:38.965
say anything that would offend him.

1648
00:55:38.965 --> 00:55:40.565
And that's why doing a,

1649
00:55:40.865 --> 00:55:42.485
so doing an interview with him is just the

1650
00:55:42.485 --> 00:55:43.485
<v Speaker 1>Best.</v>

1651
00:55:43.485 --> 00:55:45.165
But so like, is that just knowing you as I do

1652
00:55:45.505 --> 00:55:47.605
and the competitive nature that you have, right.

1653
00:55:47.625 --> 00:55:49.085
The fact that he isn't reacting, is

1654
00:55:49.085 --> 00:55:51.725
that making you just want to keep pushing a little further

1655
00:55:51.815 --> 00:55:53.365
until you find the breaking point. Oh

1656
00:55:53.445 --> 00:55:54.965
<v Speaker 6>Mate, I was just having fun with it.</v>

1657
00:55:55.025 --> 00:55:56.605
The thing is, I don't know where any

1658
00:55:56.605 --> 00:55:57.605
of these interviews are going.

1659
00:55:57.705 --> 00:56:01.005
Yes. Like, who knows? Perhaps it's gonna be like a big deal.

1660
00:56:01.155 --> 00:56:02.645
Like it's gonna be a headline at some point.

1661
00:56:02.675 --> 00:56:04.885
Some a joke that I've made. Yes. That's, that's the worry.

1662
00:56:04.985 --> 00:56:07.165
<v Speaker 1>That's the concern.</v>
<v Speaker 6>Every single interview I do,</v>

1663
00:56:07.285 --> 00:56:09.645
I ask Rory, have I just canceled myself?

1664
00:56:09.665 --> 00:56:12.365
Mm. Because my memory doesn't extend further than the

1665
00:56:12.385 --> 00:56:13.485
10 last 10 seconds.

1666
00:56:13.655 --> 00:56:15.525
Right. The last question. Right.

1667
00:56:15.705 --> 00:56:16.925
<v Speaker 1>You might not be canceling yourself,</v>

1668
00:56:16.925 --> 00:56:19.005
but you do realize he's also one of your bosses.

1669
00:56:19.225 --> 00:56:20.605
So you could be making yourself

1670
00:56:20.605 --> 00:56:21.605
unemployed.
<v Speaker 6>.</v>

1671
00:56:23.555 --> 00:56:25.405
Yeah. That would be quite a story, wouldn't

1672
00:56:25.405 --> 00:56:26.405
<v Speaker 1>It?</v>

1673
00:56:26.405 --> 00:56:29.565
Driver fired over unwelcome. Dig at team owner. Well,

1674
00:56:29.885 --> 00:56:31.165
<v Speaker 6>I mean, if there's a way to be fired,</v>

1675
00:56:31.185 --> 00:56:33.245
that's probably the way I like it. You know,

1676
00:56:33.315 --> 00:56:35.005
<v Speaker 1>It's, it's like that guy who I think who worked</v>

1677
00:56:35.005 --> 00:56:36.445
for Southwest and he wanted to quit.

1678
00:56:36.545 --> 00:56:38.085
And so he like got on the PA system

1679
00:56:38.085 --> 00:56:40.085
and just did some like, I'm outta here kind of thing.

1680
00:56:40.225 --> 00:56:42.045
And then pulled the emergency door

1681
00:56:42.045 --> 00:56:43.445
and went down the slide onto the runway.

1682
00:56:43.715 --> 00:56:46.165
<v Speaker 6>What? That he did that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is awesome.</v>

1683
00:56:46.465 --> 00:56:48.925
<v Speaker 1>No, he ended up in jail. It wasn't great for him. Oh yeah.</v>

1684
00:56:49.665 --> 00:56:50.925
So maybe he just, oh, that's not good.

1685
00:56:51.145 --> 00:56:54.365
So, so just last thing on this whole thing with your boss.

1686
00:56:54.515 --> 00:56:57.645
Yeah. Do you say Helio to make him angry?

1687
00:56:58.125 --> 00:57:00.085
'cause that's not how you say his name. You know that right?

1688
00:57:00.085 --> 00:57:01.205
I say his name. It's Elio.

1689
00:57:01.585 --> 00:57:03.725
If you pronounce the H, you're doing it incorrectly.

1690
00:57:04.025 --> 00:57:05.965
<v Speaker 6>Oof. Okay. So I've been saying his name</v>

1691
00:57:05.965 --> 00:57:07.125
wrong. This, I say, see,

1692
00:57:07.165 --> 00:57:08.685
<v Speaker 1>I assumed that was one of the pranks</v>

1693
00:57:08.835 --> 00:57:09.885
that you were just digging in.

1694
00:57:10.125 --> 00:57:12.605
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was. Hey,</v>
<v Speaker 1>It's not. Hey Leo. Hey Leo.</v>

1695
00:57:12.745 --> 00:57:15.005
No, no, no. That's, it's Elio. Elio.

1696
00:57:15.035 --> 00:57:16.805
Like H doesn't even exist. Well,

1697
00:57:16.915 --> 00:57:20.285
<v Speaker 6>He's invited me to go hang out with him in Brazil. So</v>

1698
00:57:20.465 --> 00:57:21.765
<v Speaker 1>You might not be coming back from that trip.</v>

1699
00:57:21.765 --> 00:57:23.765
That's, that might be a setup. I wouldn't go. That

1700
00:57:23.765 --> 00:57:24.845
<v Speaker 6>Would be the best case scenario.</v>

1701
00:57:24.915 --> 00:57:26.205
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wouldn't go.</v>
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna</v>

1702
00:57:26.205 --> 00:57:27.405
cause some serious damage.

1703
00:57:27.595 --> 00:57:29.965
Like, we're gonna do some serious rioting

1704
00:57:30.025 --> 00:57:31.205
and we're gonna have some fun.

1705
00:57:31.505 --> 00:57:35.285
And should I be saying that? No, we probably should cut. You

1706
00:57:35.285 --> 00:57:37.965
<v Speaker 1>Have a different, uh, definition of fun than I do ,</v>

1707
00:57:38.505 --> 00:57:40.405
but I'll leave that between the two of you guys. Okay.

1708
00:57:40.405 --> 00:57:42.245
<v Speaker 6>We're single Pringles and ready to Ingle, bro. There</v>

1709
00:57:42.245 --> 00:57:43.245
<v Speaker 1>You go.</v>

1710
00:57:43.245 --> 00:57:45.405
There you go. That's, yeah, that's, that's a whole thing.

1711
00:57:45.845 --> 00:57:47.125
, that's a whole thing. You two would,

1712
00:57:47.125 --> 00:57:48.285
that'd be a dangerous combination.

1713
00:57:48.625 --> 00:57:49.805
Oh gosh, that's not good.

1714
00:57:49.805 --> 00:57:51.085
Um, yeah, you can find him on any

1715
00:57:51.085 --> 00:57:52.965
and all of the dating apps, uh, if you're interested.

1716
00:57:53.225 --> 00:57:54.965
Not true. Um, no. Just the one.

1717
00:57:55.185 --> 00:57:57.925
I'm a profess profess, um, no. Okay. In 500 Mm.

1718
00:57:57.925 --> 00:57:59.245
You've heard of it? Yes,

1719
00:57:59.525 --> 00:58:00.525
<v Speaker 6>I have.</v>

1720
00:58:00.525 --> 00:58:01.485
<v Speaker 1>So you've, you've done it before.</v>

1721
00:58:01.755 --> 00:58:04.125
<v Speaker 6>Well, I had an engine failure on lap four</v>

1722
00:58:04.395 --> 00:58:05.485
last year. But you

1723
00:58:05.505 --> 00:58:07.325
<v Speaker 1>Did the, the, when I say the 500,</v>

1724
00:58:07.445 --> 00:58:10.245
I mean the all encompassing event that is Indy 500, right?

1725
00:58:10.465 --> 00:58:15.005
<v Speaker 6>Yes. Okay. Um, look, it's, it's a, it's a very busy event.</v>

1726
00:58:15.065 --> 00:58:16.085
I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you,

1727
00:58:16.325 --> 00:58:17.965
I feel like driving is the easiest part

1728
00:58:17.965 --> 00:58:18.965
of the job at this point.

1729
00:58:19.115 --> 00:58:22.085
Like the last couple of days have been seriously busy.

1730
00:58:22.485 --> 00:58:25.005
I think we've, we finished Monday practice.

1731
00:58:25.525 --> 00:58:27.125
I slept that night. So that was real cool.

1732
00:58:27.125 --> 00:58:30.845
<v Speaker 1>That's neat. And I</v>
<v Speaker 6>Woke up early PJ to New York.</v>

1733
00:58:31.345 --> 00:58:34.045
Thanks boss. Jim Maya. He's the, he's the man.

1734
00:58:34.465 --> 00:58:36.445
And then a couple of interviews, um,

1735
00:58:36.675 --> 00:58:37.885
more than a couple actually.

1736
00:58:38.465 --> 00:58:40.125
And dinner.

1737
00:58:40.505 --> 00:58:43.485
Fly back to, uh, Indianapolis yesterday morning.

1738
00:58:43.555 --> 00:58:46.045
Community day school. School day, something. Mm-hmm .

1739
00:58:46.155 --> 00:58:47.565
<v Speaker 1>Community Day.</v>
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Community day.</v>

1740
00:58:47.665 --> 00:58:52.125
Uh, back to the 500, back to the track. Sorry. Photo shoot.

1741
00:58:52.785 --> 00:58:55.125
Uh, went to the gym, did interviews from the treadmill.

1742
00:58:55.275 --> 00:58:56.605
Okay. That was pretty cool. Okay.

1743
00:58:56.705 --> 00:58:59.525
<v Speaker 1>Um, like phone interviews? Yes. Or they were Okay. No,</v>

1744
00:58:59.525 --> 00:59:01.005
<v Speaker 6>They were also like, uh, in person</v>

1745
00:59:01.235 --> 00:59:02.235
<v Speaker 1>Zoom.</v>

1746
00:59:02.235 --> 00:59:02.745
<v Speaker 6>Oh,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Okay.</v>

1747
00:59:02.745 --> 00:59:04.205
<v Speaker 6>Zoom interviews.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Were you like running</v>

1748
00:59:04.425 --> 00:59:06.845
or just like at a, at a brisk walk? It

1749
00:59:06.845 --> 00:59:07.845
<v Speaker 6>Was a brisk walk.</v>

1750
00:59:07.845 --> 00:59:09.085
My heart rate was elevated. Okay.

1751
00:59:09.085 --> 00:59:09.965
It was probably a zone

1752
00:59:09.965 --> 00:59:11.405
two exercise. Got. So it's kinda like,

1753
00:59:11.465 --> 00:59:12.465
<v Speaker 1>No, you're moving.</v>

1754
00:59:12.675 --> 00:59:14.725
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So the car was on , so,</v>

1755
00:59:14.825 --> 00:59:16.325
<v Speaker 1>So these weren't like fitness interviews</v>

1756
00:59:16.345 --> 00:59:17.605
and you had to be on a treadmill.

1757
00:59:17.665 --> 00:59:20.045
You just needed to move and had interviews to do.

1758
00:59:20.385 --> 00:59:21.645
So you put the two things together.

1759
00:59:22.005 --> 00:59:24.605
<v Speaker 6>Honestly, I need, I needed to just get moving a little bit</v>

1760
00:59:24.605 --> 00:59:26.885
because I'd been sitting down stationary for

1761
00:59:26.905 --> 00:59:27.965
so, so many days.

1762
00:59:28.155 --> 00:59:30.325
Like, I just felt not very good.

1763
00:59:30.325 --> 00:59:33.285
Felix and I both were like, what I would do to just,

1764
00:59:33.795 --> 00:59:35.725
just like, move my body for an afternoon.

1765
00:59:36.385 --> 00:59:39.365
Um, so I don't know how good those interviews are.

1766
00:59:39.585 --> 00:59:42.565
Pro probably horrendous. Not as bad as this one, but No,

1767
00:59:42.665 --> 00:59:43.665
<v Speaker 1>God no.</v>

1768
00:59:43.665 --> 00:59:45.285
I promise you it's not as bad as this one.

1769
00:59:45.745 --> 00:59:49.485
Um, so coming into your second month of May was there,

1770
00:59:50.525 --> 00:59:51.845
I guess what was, what was one thing

1771
00:59:51.845 --> 00:59:54.925
that you are glad you knew coming into May that

1772
00:59:54.925 --> 00:59:56.765
as a rookie last year you didn't know

1773
00:59:56.785 --> 00:59:59.245
and maybe kind of caught you, caught you off guard?

1774
00:59:59.985 --> 01:00:01.445
<v Speaker 6>Wow. That's a good question.</v>

1775
01:00:01.985 --> 01:00:03.565
I'm, I honestly feel like I'm

1776
01:00:03.565 --> 01:00:04.885
still learning every single day.

1777
01:00:04.885 --> 01:00:08.165
Mm. Like every day. I'm, uh, eyes wide

1778
01:00:08.635 --> 01:00:09.635
<v Speaker 1>Shut.</v>

1779
01:00:09.635 --> 01:00:10.305
Oh, ,

1780
01:00:12.105 --> 01:00:13.105
<v Speaker 6>Is that a</v>
<v Speaker 1>Thing?</v>

1781
01:00:13.105 --> 01:00:13.965
I think I might see your problem actually.

1782
01:00:14.575 --> 01:00:16.845
, we'll talk offline, but we might be able to,

1783
01:00:17.195 --> 01:00:18.525
it's gonna go a lot smoother from here on

1784
01:00:18.525 --> 01:00:19.645
out. I promise you. It's

1785
01:00:19.645 --> 01:00:21.365
<v Speaker 6>An emotional rollercoaster this month.</v>

1786
01:00:21.365 --> 01:00:24.765
Mm. Like some days are so good and I couldn't tell you why.

1787
01:00:25.345 --> 01:00:27.685
Uh, and then some days are horrendous.

1788
01:00:27.945 --> 01:00:29.165
And I probably could tell you why

1789
01:00:29.165 --> 01:00:30.925
<v Speaker 1>You got a better idea as to why. Yeah, yeah,</v>

1790
01:00:30.925 --> 01:00:31.925
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.</v>

1791
01:00:31.925 --> 01:00:33.045
Like, uh, last Saturday was one

1792
01:00:33.045 --> 01:00:34.925
for the one for the record books.

1793
01:00:35.665 --> 01:00:37.085
The personal record books. Yeah.

1794
01:00:37.185 --> 01:00:40.645
If there was a goodness world record book for my life,

1795
01:00:41.155 --> 01:00:44.605
that'll be a chapter dedicated to, to Saturday . Um,

1796
01:00:44.675 --> 01:00:46.925
<v Speaker 1>What would the title of that chapter be? Uh,</v>

1797
01:00:47.675 --> 01:00:49.045
<v Speaker 6>Make sure the error balance is right. . .</v>

1798
01:00:51.215 --> 01:00:52.485
<v Speaker 1>Noted. Okay. But look,</v>

1799
01:00:52.785 --> 01:00:55.565
and I'm sure you've talked so much about, well, all of this,

1800
01:00:55.585 --> 01:00:57.125
but sorry, that's the nature of the job.

1801
01:00:57.505 --> 01:01:01.005
Uh, you had your incident on Saturday. It was what it was

1802
01:01:01.505 --> 01:01:02.605
<v Speaker 6>You were calling it, by the way.</v>

1803
01:01:02.805 --> 01:01:04.645
<v Speaker 1>I was, I was</v>
<v Speaker 6>Did you enjoy that?</v>

1804
01:01:04.865 --> 01:01:06.685
<v Speaker 1>No, I never enjoy that. You kidding me?</v>

1805
01:01:07.035 --> 01:01:07.805
It's not what you wanna see.

1806
01:01:07.835 --> 01:01:08.885
I've been there, I've done that.

1807
01:01:08.945 --> 01:01:11.085
<v Speaker 6>It was kind of, it sucks. It was kind of interesting to,</v>

1808
01:01:11.665 --> 01:01:14.645
you know, when I watched it back 800 times with all the

1809
01:01:15.405 --> 01:01:19.925
separate media departments, um, you guys are like spot on

1810
01:01:19.925 --> 01:01:22.005
with your commentary about how, what,

1811
01:01:22.005 --> 01:01:23.565
what I'm experiencing in the car.

1812
01:01:23.565 --> 01:01:25.245
Right. , um,

1813
01:01:25.455 --> 01:01:26.455
<v Speaker 1>Again, been there.</v>

1814
01:01:26.455 --> 01:01:28.085
<v Speaker 6>I think it was, I think it was, uh, Townsend</v>

1815
01:01:28.085 --> 01:01:29.965
that was like, okay, he's a bit high here.

1816
01:01:29.965 --> 01:01:32.485
He is a bit afraid to turn in. He's clearly on the nose.

1817
01:01:32.705 --> 01:01:34.165
And then you've said something like,

1818
01:01:34.195 --> 01:01:35.365
he's hit his knees here.

1819
01:01:35.555 --> 01:01:37.165
There's nothing worse than hitting your

1820
01:01:37.165 --> 01:01:38.685
knees during that crash.

1821
01:01:38.795 --> 01:01:41.605
Yeah. But you've, you guys have got like spot on.

1822
01:01:41.785 --> 01:01:44.205
So it's like , you, you've done that before.

1823
01:01:44.335 --> 01:01:46.205
<v Speaker 1>We're doing our job. Okay.</v>

1824
01:01:46.205 --> 01:01:47.525
Well, so let's not talk about the crash.

1825
01:01:47.645 --> 01:01:48.645
I wanna talk about something else.

1826
01:01:48.685 --> 01:01:51.845
I have unfortunately experience with, and that's Sunday. Mm.

1827
01:01:51.985 --> 01:01:54.165
So what happened Saturday? Lead you to have to go to Sunday?

1828
01:01:54.305 --> 01:01:58.965
Mm. Just the emotion of, and the, the panic

1829
01:01:59.265 --> 01:02:02.085
and the awful feeling in your gut that is bump day.

1830
01:02:02.865 --> 01:02:04.485
<v Speaker 6>Man, I can't even describe it.</v>

1831
01:02:04.805 --> 01:02:06.605
like it's no, I'm, I'm,

1832
01:02:06.605 --> 01:02:08.525
I'm gonna say Saturday was, was the worst.

1833
01:02:09.105 --> 01:02:11.685
Sunday was the most nerve wracking. Right?

1834
01:02:11.795 --> 01:02:16.205
Because you're sitting there watching everybody go

1835
01:02:16.465 --> 01:02:19.285
and you're just sitting in their engineering office all day.

1836
01:02:19.785 --> 01:02:21.485
And I watched McLaughlin's crash

1837
01:02:21.905 --> 01:02:25.725
and as a driver, you know when a car is on the limit, right?

1838
01:02:25.725 --> 01:02:26.845
You when you're watching it on tv.

1839
01:02:27.185 --> 01:02:29.885
And I saw his, his first lap and I saw his second lap

1840
01:02:29.885 --> 01:02:32.165
and I was like, man, why are you still pushing?

1841
01:02:32.315 --> 01:02:35.565
Like, you're so, like, you're, the car is skating.

1842
01:02:35.675 --> 01:02:38.565
Like you're so trimmed. Like it's practice, man.

1843
01:02:38.565 --> 01:02:40.765
Like, oh, I couldn't even watch the TV in the end.

1844
01:02:40.845 --> 01:02:42.085
I like looked away from the TV

1845
01:02:42.465 --> 01:02:43.885
and just watched the live timing.

1846
01:02:44.825 --> 01:02:47.325
And um, and then I was just watching the live timing,

1847
01:02:47.355 --> 01:02:49.565
like kind of scratching, like, oh my gosh,

1848
01:02:49.665 --> 01:02:50.725
I'm nervous watching this.

1849
01:02:51.155 --> 01:02:53.805
Sure enough goes yellow. And I just, you just know. Yeah.

1850
01:02:53.805 --> 01:02:56.365
Like, and so the whole day I'm like nervous

1851
01:02:56.595 --> 01:02:58.245
just watching everybody go.

1852
01:02:58.665 --> 01:03:00.365
And then I was like, I got to a certain point

1853
01:03:00.365 --> 01:03:02.085
and I was like, I'm not gonna watch any more TV

1854
01:03:02.085 --> 01:03:03.525
because  like,

1855
01:03:03.525 --> 01:03:05.965
when I get in the car, you just gotta do your thing.

1856
01:03:05.965 --> 01:03:07.045
Right. You just gotta trust it.

1857
01:03:07.155 --> 01:03:08.885
Like you said, you actually text me

1858
01:03:08.885 --> 01:03:10.085
and said, trust the damn thing.

1859
01:03:10.505 --> 01:03:14.325
And that's like maybe the best advice I received  on Sunday.

1860
01:03:14.675 --> 01:03:17.925
Yeah. Um, so just, just like got clear in my head,

1861
01:03:17.925 --> 01:03:19.805
just do the job and you know,

1862
01:03:19.805 --> 01:03:21.445
we were fairly downforce for that run.

1863
01:03:21.585 --> 01:03:23.365
Um, you know, probably not as much as you,

1864
01:03:23.385 --> 01:03:24.685
you would've thought, but, you know,

1865
01:03:24.685 --> 01:03:25.965
we're safe on downforce,

1866
01:03:26.025 --> 01:03:28.045
so we weren't gonna have any massive surprises.

1867
01:03:28.395 --> 01:03:30.085
Just gotta go out there, do the job.

1868
01:03:30.545 --> 01:03:33.685
<v Speaker 1>But on those four laps, like are you just listening</v>

1869
01:03:33.705 --> 01:03:34.805
for something to go wrong?

1870
01:03:34.945 --> 01:03:38.605
Are you waiting for a twitch or a, a, a cough of the engine?

1871
01:03:38.605 --> 01:03:39.805
Something that, you know, could just

1872
01:03:39.805 --> 01:03:40.885
throw the whole thing out the window? ?

1873
01:03:41.825 --> 01:03:43.725
<v Speaker 6>No, I wasn't waiting for a car of the engine.</v>

1874
01:03:43.965 --> 01:03:48.485
I, I trusted Honda, but I gotta say that on the out lap

1875
01:03:48.485 --> 01:03:51.085
and the prep lap, um, I'm like,

1876
01:03:51.305 --> 01:03:53.325
now I'm super like, okay, where are we?

1877
01:03:53.325 --> 01:03:54.925
Where are we? Okay, what do I need to do?

1878
01:03:54.925 --> 01:03:57.245
Before we even start, because the day

1879
01:03:57.245 --> 01:03:59.925
before I was like on the left, I was thinking,

1880
01:03:59.925 --> 01:04:01.605
Ooh, this is a bit crispy. You know,

1881
01:04:01.605 --> 01:04:02.885
<v Speaker 1>This is, it's sharp, this is a</v>

1882
01:04:02.885 --> 01:04:04.045
<v Speaker 6>Bit sharp, but it's fast.</v>

1883
01:04:04.115 --> 01:04:06.885
When I turn, when I go to mode two, this is

1884
01:04:06.885 --> 01:04:08.885
<v Speaker 1>Gonna scream,</v>
<v Speaker 6>This thing's gonna be fast.</v>

1885
01:04:09.785 --> 01:04:11.285
But, uh, on that occasion

1886
01:04:11.505 --> 01:04:13.445
or the whole of Sunday, I was kind of like,

1887
01:04:14.835 --> 01:04:15.885
yeah, I'm gonna go a bit right.

1888
01:04:15.985 --> 01:04:18.005
I'm gonna go a bit forward. I'm not gonna

1889
01:04:18.465 --> 01:04:19.645
on the weight jacker and bars.

1890
01:04:19.645 --> 01:04:21.485
Like, I'm just gonna be a bit conservative here.

1891
01:04:22.105 --> 01:04:23.485
And so I was like,

1892
01:04:23.485 --> 01:04:26.245
my senses were super heightened on that warmup lap.

1893
01:04:26.345 --> 01:04:28.725
And when I'm actually in the rhythm,

1894
01:04:29.305 --> 01:04:30.405
you know, you know what it's like.

1895
01:04:30.585 --> 01:04:32.605
You just, you hit your marks and,

1896
01:04:32.665 --> 01:04:33.765
and you do the best you can.

1897
01:04:34.985 --> 01:04:36.805
<v Speaker 1>So starting from where you are,</v>

1898
01:04:37.945 --> 01:04:39.485
do you have a plan for the race yet?

1899
01:04:39.585 --> 01:04:41.125
Do you know what to expect going

1900
01:04:41.125 --> 01:04:42.325
into turn one from back there?

1901
01:04:43.625 --> 01:04:46.405
<v Speaker 6>Um, what do I expect? Uh, that's my favorite question.</v>

1902
01:04:46.475 --> 01:04:48.285
What do I expect from the first lap?

1903
01:04:48.285 --> 01:04:50.485
Because you had never predicted indie car start,

1904
01:04:50.705 --> 01:04:53.565
but, um, I'm surrounded by some very quick cars.

1905
01:04:53.665 --> 01:04:55.525
Mm. Um, let me ask you this.

1906
01:04:55.525 --> 01:04:57.085
What would, what would you be doing if

1907
01:04:57.085 --> 01:04:58.165
you were starting P 30?

1908
01:04:59.185 --> 01:05:00.365
The E 500? Make

1909
01:05:00.365 --> 01:05:02.485
<v Speaker 1>Sure your brakes are warm on the, on the last pace lap.</v>

1910
01:05:02.755 --> 01:05:04.005
<v Speaker 6>Real? Yeah. Okay.</v>

1911
01:05:04.275 --> 01:05:07.165
<v Speaker 1>Turn one's pretty gnarly in a 30 car draft. Yeah.</v>

1912
01:05:07.175 --> 01:05:08.725
There is no air. Oh man.

1913
01:05:08.785 --> 01:05:11.405
You will be in third gear and like 120 miles an hour,

1914
01:05:11.505 --> 01:05:12.505
<v Speaker 6>You know?</v>

1915
01:05:12.505 --> 01:05:14.245
Okay. I completely agree.

1916
01:05:14.265 --> 01:05:17.085
You know, but, uh, last year Dario said that to me, me

1917
01:05:17.085 --> 01:05:19.245
as well when I was starting maybe 16.

1918
01:05:20.225 --> 01:05:23.405
And, uh, Dixon who was starting right behind me,

1919
01:05:24.205 --> 01:05:25.325
I don't think he even lifted .

1920
01:05:25.925 --> 01:05:28.725
Like, I think he went round T one flat on the high

1921
01:05:28.725 --> 01:05:30.005
line on the cushion.

1922
01:05:30.305 --> 01:05:32.325
Yep. You know? Yeah. Using the cushion.

1923
01:05:32.325 --> 01:05:34.005
<v Speaker 1>Just sitting up on the right rear. Just Yeah.</v>

1924
01:05:34.385 --> 01:05:36.605
<v Speaker 6>The whole way around. The first corner past about</v>

1925
01:05:36.825 --> 01:05:40.925
<v Speaker 1>If the outside's free take it, but 15th</v>

1926
01:05:40.925 --> 01:05:42.525
and 30th it's twice as bad.

1927
01:05:42.785 --> 01:05:43.925
Yes. Numbers math?

1928
01:05:44.705 --> 01:05:47.645
<v Speaker 6>Uh, well I think it's Colton starting ahead of me. Sure.</v>

1929
01:05:48.225 --> 01:05:53.165
Um, history says he's gonna do something interesting. Mm.

1930
01:05:54.385 --> 01:05:56.325
<v Speaker 1>So sit back and watch, sit back and watch.</v>

1931
01:05:56.325 --> 01:05:57.845
You're gonna have your, you're gonna have your popcorn

1932
01:05:58.345 --> 01:05:59.565
and you're just gonna be watching.

1933
01:06:00.085 --> 01:06:01.605
<v Speaker 6>Probably won't have my popcorn. I probably have my</v>

1934
01:06:01.605 --> 01:06:02.645
hand on that ball

1935
01:06:03.055 --> 01:06:04.055
<v Speaker 1>About .</v>

1936
01:06:04.055 --> 01:06:05.245
Staring with, staring with your knee.

1937
01:06:05.245 --> 01:06:07.565
And you've got both bars just ready to go, huh?

1938
01:06:08.195 --> 01:06:10.765
Well, I'm gonna have my popcorn up in the booth watching.

1939
01:06:10.925 --> 01:06:12.405
I look forward to seeing what kind

1940
01:06:12.405 --> 01:06:14.165
of trouble you can get into, buddy. Best of luck. Thanks

1941
01:06:14.165 --> 01:06:15.165
<v Speaker 6>Mate.</v>

1942
01:06:15.165 --> 01:06:15.925
Thank you very much. I'm happy I haven't canceled

1943
01:06:15.985 --> 01:06:17.525
myself on this interview. Yeah.

1944
01:06:17.585 --> 01:06:22.485
<v Speaker 1>Yet. Good job. Never a dull moment with Paddle Award.</v>

1945
01:06:22.775 --> 01:06:26.005
We're just talking, uh, pet's social media accounts.

1946
01:06:26.435 --> 01:06:28.565
Does your dog have its own social media account?

1947
01:06:28.875 --> 01:06:31.405
<v Speaker 7>Both of them. Both of 'em? Yeah. Well, it's, uh, Rocky.</v>

1948
01:06:32.105 --> 01:06:33.645
May he rest in peace? He's dead. Mm.

1949
01:06:34.145 --> 01:06:35.245
<v Speaker 1>I'm</v>
<v Speaker 7>Sorry to hear that. He,</v>

1950
01:06:35.785 --> 01:06:38.805
his account's still living Okay. Through my mother.

1951
01:06:38.935 --> 01:06:41.525
<v Speaker 1>Right. So she's just channeling Rocky. Rocky.</v>

1952
01:06:41.585 --> 01:06:44.125
<v Speaker 7>Yes. Rocky's Energy</v>
<v Speaker 1>Still posting on his behalf.</v>

1953
01:06:44.535 --> 01:06:47.925
<v Speaker 7>Norby? Yeah. He's still going strong. He's</v>

1954
01:06:47.925 --> 01:06:48.925
<v Speaker 1>Alive.</v>

1955
01:06:48.925 --> 01:06:51.365
Okay. Yes. And are we, like, are they on multiple platforms

1956
01:06:51.385 --> 01:06:52.845
or you just kind of stick Just

1957
01:06:52.845 --> 01:06:53.845
<v Speaker 7>Instagram.</v>

1958
01:06:53.845 --> 01:06:55.045
<v Speaker 1>Just Instagram.</v>
<v Speaker 7>Honestly, we never post on their,</v>

1959
01:06:55.145 --> 01:06:56.325
on their pla very rarely.

1960
01:06:56.585 --> 01:06:58.325
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, how many followers does he have?</v>

1961
01:06:59.515 --> 01:07:02.285
<v Speaker 7>They both have like 10,000. I think. It's not bad. Decent.</v>

1962
01:07:02.355 --> 01:07:04.005
<v Speaker 1>It's not bad. I bet you could start getting deals.</v>

1963
01:07:04.085 --> 01:07:05.325
I think you could start getting no,

1964
01:07:05.325 --> 01:07:07.045
no deals, endorsement deals. Yeah. We

1965
01:07:07.045 --> 01:07:08.045
<v Speaker 7>Haven't yet.</v>

1966
01:07:08.045 --> 01:07:09.325
I think we have to get to like a hundred

1967
01:07:09.605 --> 01:07:10.645
thousand to get like, good endorsement

1968
01:07:10.645 --> 01:07:11.645
<v Speaker 1>Deals.</v>

1969
01:07:11.645 --> 01:07:11.825
Is that when it starts?

1970
01:07:12.685 --> 01:07:14.725
<v Speaker 7>Probably. I mean, worth the time. What's,</v>

1971
01:07:14.785 --> 01:07:16.605
<v Speaker 1>How many, how many Instagram followers do you have?</v>

1972
01:07:17.245 --> 01:07:18.325
<v Speaker 7>I have.</v>
<v Speaker 1>You're kind of a big deal,</v>

1973
01:07:18.325 --> 01:07:20.125
aren't you? ? I think you are.

1974
01:07:21.025 --> 01:07:22.685
<v Speaker 7>No, I haven't hit the million yet, bro.</v>

1975
01:07:23.595 --> 01:07:25.365
<v Speaker 1>What are you close?</v>
<v Speaker 7>Yes. .</v>

1976
01:07:27.955 --> 01:07:29.165
<v Speaker 1>Well close. You have more?</v>

1977
01:07:29.225 --> 01:07:30.605
That's like more than the indie car

1978
01:07:30.665 --> 01:07:32.365
as a series has bro. Like eight

1979
01:07:32.365 --> 01:07:33.285
<v Speaker 7>50. Like eight 50</v>

1980
01:07:33.285 --> 01:07:34.285
<v Speaker 1>Or something.</v>

1981
01:07:34.285 --> 01:07:35.045
That's a lot. 8 45. That's a lot. That's a lot.

1982
01:07:35.465 --> 01:07:37.445
So do you get like endorsement deals?

1983
01:07:37.445 --> 01:07:39.125
Just like, do you get paid posts?

1984
01:07:39.125 --> 01:07:40.805
Do you get people that pay you just to like posts?

1985
01:07:40.985 --> 01:07:42.965
Hi, I'm Pat Ward and I wake up every morning

1986
01:07:42.985 --> 01:07:44.445
and I drink this coffee and

1987
01:07:44.585 --> 01:07:46.605
<v Speaker 7>No, I,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you my face routine.</v>

1988
01:07:46.745 --> 01:07:48.605
Let me tell you my moisturizers that I

1989
01:07:48.605 --> 01:07:50.645
<v Speaker 7>Use, I'm after the big stuff. Oh,</v>

1990
01:07:51.185 --> 01:07:52.005
<v Speaker 1>You don't want those? I</v>

1991
01:07:52.005 --> 01:07:53.845
<v Speaker 7>Don't like wasting my time with like small stuff because</v>

1992
01:07:54.035 --> 01:07:55.035
<v Speaker 1>Okay.</v>

1993
01:07:55.035 --> 01:07:56.965
You don't get outta bed for less than 50 grand. I get

1994
01:07:56.965 --> 01:08:01.205
it.
<v Speaker 7>. Leave it there.</v>

1995
01:08:01.275 --> 01:08:05.765
<v Speaker 1>Careful how you answer that question. Oh man.</v>

1996
01:08:05.765 --> 01:08:08.925
How's media day going? Media day until now. Obviously

1997
01:08:08.925 --> 01:08:09.925
<v Speaker 7>It's going off the road.</v>

1998
01:08:09.925 --> 01:08:11.205
I mean, you've done your homework. You're not asking

1999
01:08:11.205 --> 01:08:12.485
me anything that I've been asked today.

2000
01:08:12.485 --> 01:08:15.365
So it's actually been quite pleasure being here, you know,

2001
01:08:15.475 --> 01:08:18.525
just talking to you, but just answering the same question.

2002
01:08:18.635 --> 01:08:21.685
Yeah. About the cheaters and about what? Oh, I had no

2003
01:08:22.005 --> 01:08:23.445
<v Speaker 1>Questions about that. Expect that wasn't even on my list.</v>

2004
01:08:23.535 --> 01:08:25.725
<v Speaker 7>About what the, what to expect of the Indy 500.</v>

2005
01:08:26.355 --> 01:08:27.285
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I'm gonna ask you one</v>

2006
01:08:27.285 --> 01:08:28.125
that maybe you've already been asked.

2007
01:08:28.125 --> 01:08:30.045
Sorry. Because you, you, uh,

2008
01:08:30.585 --> 01:08:32.525
in an interview you said something that I thought was kind

2009
01:08:32.525 --> 01:08:34.285
of cool, uh, talking about qualifying.

2010
01:08:34.285 --> 01:08:36.045
You were just like, I just want to be on the front row.

2011
01:08:36.045 --> 01:08:39.045
Yeah. I just wanna see nothing going into turn one. Yes.

2012
01:08:39.065 --> 01:08:40.925
And you've got that. Yes. How does that feel?

2013
01:08:41.465 --> 01:08:43.045
<v Speaker 7>Oh, amazing. Yeah. Yes.</v>

2014
01:08:43.115 --> 01:08:45.165
I've been manifesting third for some reason.

2015
01:08:45.345 --> 01:08:47.645
The whole , I know people manifest first,

2016
01:08:47.645 --> 01:08:49.245
but I've been manifesting third in

2017
01:08:49.245 --> 01:08:50.405
qualifying the whole month.

2018
01:08:51.045 --> 01:08:52.045
actually even before the whole month I

2019
01:08:52.045 --> 01:08:52.605
was like, you know what?

2020
01:08:52.645 --> 01:08:54.845
I just want a shot at the front row. Um,

2021
01:08:56.165 --> 01:08:57.845
<v Speaker 1>Manifesting first is, so 2024.</v>

2022
01:08:57.965 --> 01:09:00.245
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm so manifesting first on Sunday. Well, yeah,</v>

2023
01:09:00.245 --> 01:09:01.605
<v Speaker 1>Obviously,</v>
<v Speaker 7>But un qualifying.</v>

2024
01:09:01.625 --> 01:09:04.285
Mm-hmm . I wasn't hyperfocused on pole.

2025
01:09:04.365 --> 01:09:06.085
I was just like, I just, I just want a car

2026
01:09:06.085 --> 01:09:08.405
that's quick enough to be on the front row.

2027
01:09:09.225 --> 01:09:10.885
And we made that happen. And you

2028
01:09:10.885 --> 01:09:11.965
<v Speaker 1>Made, it was a good run, man.</v>

2029
01:09:11.965 --> 01:09:14.005
Like you guys had some serious pace. I

2030
01:09:14.005 --> 01:09:15.005
<v Speaker 7>Know.</v>

2031
01:09:15.005 --> 01:09:15.165
I was kind of sad though. I

2032
01:09:15.165 --> 01:09:16.165
thought we had more speed than that.

2033
01:09:16.185 --> 01:09:18.445
We just magically lost half a mile an hour,

2034
01:09:18.555 --> 01:09:19.765
just kind of randomly.

2035
01:09:19.855 --> 01:09:21.725
Felix was a little bit the same. I've

2036
01:09:21.725 --> 01:09:24.205
<v Speaker 1>Heard a lot of drivers say that like their car on Fast</v>

2037
01:09:24.205 --> 01:09:26.045
Friday was like awesome or something.

2038
01:09:26.045 --> 01:09:27.365
Or maybe even the first run on Saturday

2039
01:09:27.585 --> 01:09:29.965
and then just speed just disappeared.

2040
01:09:30.195 --> 01:09:31.445
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. That's indie though.</v>

2041
01:09:31.785 --> 01:09:34.005
You know how it's like, like one day you're like, Ooh,

2042
01:09:34.145 --> 01:09:35.145
<v Speaker 1>Fickle</v>
<v Speaker 7>Creature.</v>

2043
01:09:35.145 --> 01:09:37.085
Yeah. Next day you're like, mm.

2044
01:09:37.835 --> 01:09:39.765
<v Speaker 1>Because for me, like I was watching, you know,</v>

2045
01:09:40.145 --> 01:09:41.245
all 400 hours

2046
01:09:41.265 --> 01:09:42.925
of practice 'cause that's what you do in my job.

2047
01:09:43.505 --> 01:09:45.645
And I was, I was struggling to figure out

2048
01:09:45.735 --> 01:09:47.805
where your guys' pace really was.

2049
01:09:48.195 --> 01:09:49.965
Like your single car pace. It was hard to tell.

2050
01:09:50.205 --> 01:09:51.925
'cause like on the no tos you weren't always that high.

2051
01:09:52.025 --> 01:09:53.205
But like, you look good in traffic,

2052
01:09:53.305 --> 01:09:56.845
but couldn't quite figure it out and then Yeah.

2053
01:09:56.845 --> 01:09:59.245
Come qualifying. Like were you guys surprised

2054
01:09:59.615 --> 01:10:00.645
after the week

2055
01:10:00.645 --> 01:10:02.165
of practice that you had the pace that you had?

2056
01:10:02.165 --> 01:10:03.965
Or was it kind of expected?

2057
01:10:03.965 --> 01:10:06.365
It just wasn't showing on Tuesday and Thursday.

2058
01:10:07.785 --> 01:10:12.195
<v Speaker 7>So I've e every Indy 500 that I've done,</v>

2059
01:10:12.195 --> 01:10:14.595
especially qualifying, I've always believed that, you know,

2060
01:10:14.605 --> 01:10:16.235
car's gonna be fast enough, car's gonna be good.

2061
01:10:16.815 --> 01:10:18.395
Um, but it's always a battle

2062
01:10:18.395 --> 01:10:20.075
to get in just to the fast 12 for me.

2063
01:10:20.185 --> 01:10:21.875
Like my car's always been the slowest of all.

2064
01:10:22.575 --> 01:10:26.635
Um, this year that was thankfully not the case

2065
01:10:26.935 --> 01:10:28.595
and my car was very fast.

2066
01:10:29.095 --> 01:10:31.115
So, um, I was just kind

2067
01:10:31.115 --> 01:10:32.475
of going into it with no expectation.

2068
01:10:32.675 --> 01:10:35.275
I was just, that's why my expectation was like, not pull.

2069
01:10:35.675 --> 01:10:37.315
I just wanted a chance in front row. Right.

2070
01:10:37.315 --> 01:10:40.115
That's why, that's why that was what I was looking towards

2071
01:10:40.115 --> 01:10:42.875
because I mean, the best that I've had is fifth,

2072
01:10:43.335 --> 01:10:45.235
um, in qualifying.

2073
01:10:45.295 --> 01:10:48.765
And I just, I just, I just wanted

2074
01:10:48.765 --> 01:10:51.205
to be in the shot, you know, in the front row.

2075
01:10:51.385 --> 01:10:53.685
<v Speaker 1>You wanna be on, on the picture with the front row? Yes.</v>

2076
01:10:53.685 --> 01:10:55.285
Front and yes. Not in center, but front

2077
01:10:55.285 --> 01:10:56.925
and left from the picture side. Just

2078
01:10:56.925 --> 01:10:58.285
<v Speaker 7>Outside front row. Perfect.</v>

2079
01:10:58.285 --> 01:11:00.125
<v Speaker 1>So you're just gonna, like, you're just gonna haul mail</v>

2080
01:11:00.125 --> 01:11:01.645
around the outside, leave,

2081
01:11:01.655 --> 01:11:03.005
leave the first lap. What do you think?

2082
01:11:03.305 --> 01:11:07.565
<v Speaker 7>Um, you can't plan a start, but No, but do you want it?</v>

2083
01:11:07.725 --> 01:11:09.885
I mean, if one of em chokes, I'm not gonna break .

2084
01:11:10.245 --> 01:11:11.365
<v Speaker 1>Well obviously that , so Yeah.</v>

2085
01:11:12.045 --> 01:11:13.725
<v Speaker 7>I mean, if I have the chance to do that, I'll do that.</v>

2086
01:11:14.185 --> 01:11:17.405
But, um, if not, I'll slot into third happily. Yeah.

2087
01:11:17.405 --> 01:11:19.845
<v Speaker 1>That's not a bad place to spend the first a hundred laps.</v>

2088
01:11:19.875 --> 01:11:23.005
Yeah. Right. Um, everyone's been talking about

2089
01:11:23.005 --> 01:11:24.005
how the hybrid has made

2090
01:11:24.005 --> 01:11:25.125
these things a little harder to drive.

2091
01:11:25.455 --> 01:11:27.045
Right. Do you agree? Is that, is

2092
01:11:27.045 --> 01:11:28.165
that something that you It's just the,

2093
01:11:28.225 --> 01:11:32.125
<v Speaker 7>The window of error has narrowed even more. Okay.</v>

2094
01:11:32.385 --> 01:11:36.785
<v Speaker 1>And</v>
<v Speaker 7>I feel like some of the, oh,</v>

2095
01:11:39.085 --> 01:11:42.225
I'm crashing, but then you end up magically saving it.

2096
01:11:43.665 --> 01:11:45.305
I feel like that's, that's come down.

2097
01:11:45.325 --> 01:11:48.585
That's the percentage of that being a save right now is

2098
01:11:48.885 --> 01:11:50.425
<v Speaker 1>Now it's just, oh, I'm crashing. Like,</v>

2099
01:11:50.425 --> 01:11:51.425
<v Speaker 7>Oh my God.</v>

2100
01:11:51.425 --> 01:11:54.705
Yeah. So it's been gnarly, man. It's been a lot of crashes.

2101
01:11:54.705 --> 01:11:56.865
Mm-hmm . Cars flying as well. Cars aren't meant to fly.

2102
01:11:57.085 --> 01:11:58.545
That's not been a good thing to see

2103
01:11:58.545 --> 01:11:59.745
because if that happens in the race,

2104
01:11:59.745 --> 01:12:01.065
you don't wanna see cars flying in the race.

2105
01:12:01.065 --> 01:12:03.865
Yeah. Yeah. So that's been a bit of a,

2106
01:12:04.145 --> 01:12:05.305
I know people aren't talking about it,

2107
01:12:05.305 --> 01:12:07.825
but for someone that is in the seat

2108
01:12:08.525 --> 01:12:11.265
and sees the other cars fly mm-hmm .

2109
01:12:11.845 --> 01:12:12.945
As well. If you're in one,

2110
01:12:12.945 --> 01:12:14.105
that's probably gonna fly as well.

2111
01:12:15.375 --> 01:12:16.625
<v Speaker 1>It's not awesome. Not a great feeling.</v>

2112
01:12:16.845 --> 01:12:18.865
<v Speaker 7>No, it's not.</v>
<v Speaker 1>But I, one of the things I've noticed is</v>

2113
01:12:18.865 --> 01:12:20.905
that it's, it's all quick cars that are crashing.

2114
01:12:21.645 --> 01:12:25.265
So does that tell me that to be quick, you've gotta have it

2115
01:12:25.265 --> 01:12:26.505
that much more on, on the edge

2116
01:12:26.855 --> 01:12:29.825
because it's not the guys that are 24th, you know,

2117
01:12:29.825 --> 01:12:32.225
it's a anasi car, it's a Penske car, you know,

2118
01:12:32.225 --> 01:12:33.745
it's an andretti, it's a McLaren.

2119
01:12:33.805 --> 01:12:35.145
You know, we've had the big teams,

2120
01:12:35.205 --> 01:12:36.865
the big drivers have had these issues.

2121
01:12:37.295 --> 01:12:39.625
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I think it's the guys that are really playing with,</v>

2122
01:12:39.735 --> 01:12:42.225
with that fine little bit of extra

2123
01:12:42.335 --> 01:12:43.425
that you want to get out of it.

2124
01:12:44.165 --> 01:12:46.785
And I mean, you've seen the consequences.

2125
01:12:47.045 --> 01:12:52.005
It just, it'll give you an I I feel like the car gives

2126
01:12:52.005 --> 01:12:56.615
you an idea once and if you ignore it, it's gonna bite.

2127
01:12:56.705 --> 01:12:58.895
<v Speaker 1>Right. Okay. Um, it's like an angry partner.</v>

2128
01:12:59.245 --> 01:13:01.255
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of like</v>
<v Speaker 1>You get one warning. Yeah. One</v>

2129
01:13:01.255 --> 01:13:02.255
<v Speaker 7>Warning an angry parent.</v>

2130
01:13:02.255 --> 01:13:03.895
Yes. I think you get one warning. Right.

2131
01:13:04.075 --> 01:13:05.895
And then you're just holding your breath

2132
01:13:05.895 --> 01:13:08.265
and you're like, don't get pissed off.

2133
01:13:08.265 --> 01:13:09.745
<v Speaker 1>Because even Scotty kind of said that. Right.</v>

2134
01:13:09.745 --> 01:13:11.665
He said he was talking to me and I didn't listen and Yeah.

2135
01:13:11.685 --> 01:13:12.825
And that's what happens. Yep.

2136
01:13:13.165 --> 01:13:16.665
So you and I have talked about your, one

2137
01:13:16.665 --> 01:13:19.505
of my favorite things to watch is the last, your onboard

2138
01:13:19.505 --> 01:13:21.265
of the last like 15 laps of the race last year

2139
01:13:21.855 --> 01:13:24.865
because it's the most like on edge,

2140
01:13:25.125 --> 01:13:27.065
gnarly balance I've ever seen.

2141
01:13:27.205 --> 01:13:29.185
And a guy not crash. Yeah, me too.

2142
01:13:29.245 --> 01:13:31.385
And that's even after like that big save that you have.

2143
01:13:31.545 --> 01:13:33.065
I know too. Like that was, I dunno

2144
01:13:33.065 --> 01:13:34.865
how it was like 40 laps to go or something on that one.

2145
01:13:35.765 --> 01:13:38.185
So you clearly have an ability to

2146
01:13:38.695 --> 01:13:41.065
keep the car on this knife edge around this place,

2147
01:13:41.765 --> 01:13:42.765
<v Speaker 7>But not always.</v>

2148
01:13:42.855 --> 01:13:44.385
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, so knock on wood.</v>

2149
01:13:44.505 --> 01:13:46.465
I mean, so far, so far so good. He's been okay.

2150
01:13:46.465 --> 01:13:47.865
But, but like, does it, do you think

2151
01:13:47.865 --> 01:13:50.465
that gives you an advantage with how, how the cars are now?

2152
01:13:50.465 --> 01:13:53.345
Because to go fast you have to be in that kind of world?

2153
01:13:54.405 --> 01:13:56.145
Or are you nervous that like, putting it in

2154
01:13:56.145 --> 01:13:57.545
that realm you're gonna step over

2155
01:13:57.545 --> 01:13:59.745
because you've been comfortable having it like that?

2156
01:13:59.875 --> 01:14:01.665
Maybe not comfortable, but, um, able.

2157
01:14:02.255 --> 01:14:06.425
<v Speaker 7>It's my, it's like, it's like it's my last resort. Okay.</v>

2158
01:14:06.975 --> 01:14:11.085
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 7>If I don't have a car that's good enough, I know</v>

2159
01:14:11.185 --> 01:14:14.465
what to do in order to make it work ish,

2160
01:14:15.965 --> 01:14:19.205
but it's gonna be kind of miserable.

2161
01:14:19.595 --> 01:14:23.525
Yeah. Um, and I just, I, I, I don't want to lose,

2162
01:14:23.745 --> 01:14:25.285
use my last resort if I don't need to.

2163
01:14:25.945 --> 01:14:29.165
And I only use it when it, like, when it's, when it, like,

2164
01:14:29.165 --> 01:14:30.205
when it, when it counts.

2165
01:14:30.205 --> 01:14:33.445
Mm-hmm . So, um, yeah.

2166
01:14:33.885 --> 01:14:35.645
I much rather not have it right there.

2167
01:14:35.885 --> 01:14:37.805
, uh, you see all the other guys just chilling, you know,

2168
01:14:37.805 --> 01:14:40.125
like, and I was, yeah.

2169
01:14:40.285 --> 01:14:43.605
I was, I was flirting with dude shunting dude.

2170
01:14:43.625 --> 01:14:44.685
It was nervous. Every corner,

2171
01:14:44.775 --> 01:14:45.775
<v Speaker 1>Every time.</v>

2172
01:14:45.775 --> 01:14:50.285
<v Speaker 7>Um, but I know I can count on my ability when I need to.</v>

2173
01:14:50.335 --> 01:14:52.245
Right. But you need

2174
01:14:52.245 --> 01:14:53.645
to pick your fight and when you're using it.

2175
01:14:53.645 --> 01:14:55.605
Right. If you get too comfortable with it,

2176
01:14:55.605 --> 01:14:56.725
you're, it's gonna bite one,

2177
01:14:56.865 --> 01:14:57.865
<v Speaker 1>You can't rely</v>
<v Speaker 7>On it.</v>

2178
01:14:57.865 --> 01:14:58.805
You cannot rely on it.

2179
01:14:58.865 --> 01:15:00.325
You have to try and make it the best

2180
01:15:00.325 --> 01:15:02.085
as you can without having to use it.

2181
01:15:02.085 --> 01:15:05.925
Yeah. But if I need to, I know that it's there to save me. .

2182
01:15:07.825 --> 01:15:09.165
<v Speaker 1>So three years in a row,</v>

2183
01:15:09.165 --> 01:15:11.045
you've been in the fight at the end.

2184
01:15:13.905 --> 01:15:17.845
How much has those, how much have those races kind

2185
01:15:17.845 --> 01:15:21.325
of taught you about what you need to win this race?

2186
01:15:22.345 --> 01:15:23.885
<v Speaker 7>You need to get the timing right.</v>

2187
01:15:24.345 --> 01:15:27.925
You need to be second, the last five laps of the race.

2188
01:15:28.105 --> 01:15:32.525
The not 10, not 15, not 20. The last five laps of the race.

2189
01:15:32.525 --> 01:15:34.405
You have to be second. Um,

2190
01:15:36.395 --> 01:15:41.285
and you can't make decision based on someone

2191
01:15:41.285 --> 01:15:42.365
else making a stupid decision.

2192
01:15:42.495 --> 01:15:47.285
Right. And at that point, I feel like you're, you just,

2193
01:15:47.345 --> 01:15:50.765
you need to, you need to do what you have to do with

2194
01:15:50.765 --> 01:15:52.045
what you have in terms of is,

2195
01:15:52.105 --> 01:15:53.445
is your car stronger in one and two?

2196
01:15:53.445 --> 01:15:54.725
Is it stronger in three and four?

2197
01:15:54.725 --> 01:15:57.325
Which is a lot of the times something that you're battling

2198
01:15:57.325 --> 01:15:59.005
through the, through the, through the lap.

2199
01:15:59.035 --> 01:16:02.285
Like, you, you can get a run out of four,

2200
01:16:02.345 --> 01:16:03.645
but you can't get one out of two.

2201
01:16:03.705 --> 01:16:06.005
You know, and that's what you're kind of battling.

2202
01:16:06.585 --> 01:16:08.605
So for me, it's just being able

2203
01:16:08.605 --> 01:16:09.805
to diagnose that through the race.

2204
01:16:09.865 --> 01:16:12.685
And it changes from first stint to like the eighth stint

2205
01:16:12.685 --> 01:16:13.725
or seventh that we do.

2206
01:16:14.505 --> 01:16:15.685
Car changes. Man, a ton.

2207
01:16:15.685 --> 01:16:17.085
Like last year I didn't start

2208
01:16:17.145 --> 01:16:19.485
so loose, we was just getting colder.

2209
01:16:19.505 --> 01:16:22.725
It was cooling off and the thing just came alive

2210
01:16:22.825 --> 01:16:24.325
and the pace was so fast.

2211
01:16:24.325 --> 01:16:27.265
Mm-hmm . Um, so I was,

2212
01:16:28.315 --> 01:16:30.715
I was wiggling . I was

2213
01:16:30.715 --> 01:16:31.715
<v Speaker 1>Clinching.</v>

2214
01:16:31.715 --> 01:16:32.715
Yeah. Yeah. Wiggle going. Yes.

2215
01:16:33.335 --> 01:16:37.435
<v Speaker 7>So I think you just, you have to believe that the,</v>

2216
01:16:37.695 --> 01:16:39.675
the decision that you make is gonna be the right one.

2217
01:16:39.775 --> 01:16:41.155
And that's what I'm going for this year.

2218
01:16:41.265 --> 01:16:46.055
It's, if I put myself in that position, whatever I choose

2219
01:16:46.055 --> 01:16:47.575
to do is gonna be the right one. Right.

2220
01:16:47.775 --> 01:16:49.295
<v Speaker 1>'cause we've had that discussion about last year</v>

2221
01:16:49.295 --> 01:16:50.815
and like, there's nothing you could have done different.

2222
01:16:50.815 --> 01:16:52.975
Right. Like, you made that decision in that moment.

2223
01:16:53.045 --> 01:16:56.215
That made sense. Yeah. So is there even any point of trying

2224
01:16:56.235 --> 01:16:57.495
to plan out the last lap?

2225
01:16:57.915 --> 01:16:59.255
No. 'cause it doesn't matter.

2226
01:16:59.255 --> 01:17:00.335
You gotta just make that call

2227
01:17:00.405 --> 01:17:02.295
with the information you have at the moment.

2228
01:17:02.435 --> 01:17:04.375
<v Speaker 7>You just gotta make sure that you're there. Yeah. Yeah.</v>

2229
01:17:04.375 --> 01:17:05.975
Because if you ain't there, you don't have that chance.

2230
01:17:06.675 --> 01:17:10.035
So if you're there, uh, um,

2231
01:17:11.925 --> 01:17:14.025
<v Speaker 1>The hard part's being seconded with five ego.</v>

2232
01:17:14.025 --> 01:17:15.025
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Like, that's literally the hard</v>

2233
01:17:15.025 --> 01:17:15.945
<v Speaker 1>Part. And then just go right there and</v>

2234
01:17:15.945 --> 01:17:16.945
<v Speaker 7>Just keep on swapping.</v>

2235
01:17:16.945 --> 01:17:17.905
Yeah. Yeah. And then

2236
01:17:18.865 --> 01:17:20.265
I feel like when you start overthinking, that's

2237
01:17:20.265 --> 01:17:21.185
where you're gonna, you're gonna be like,

2238
01:17:21.185 --> 01:17:22.265
oh my God, I should have done then.

2239
01:17:22.335 --> 01:17:27.125
Yeah. Yeah. So you just, your gut will lead you, right?

2240
01:17:27.145 --> 01:17:29.645
Mm-hmm . Um, when you start overthinking,

2241
01:17:29.645 --> 01:17:30.885
that's when it doesn't.

2242
01:17:31.345 --> 01:17:34.165
<v Speaker 1>Joseph talks about how his whole like,</v>

2243
01:17:34.165 --> 01:17:35.605
jump into the crowd thing was

2244
01:17:35.605 --> 01:17:36.685
something that he'd thought about.

2245
01:17:36.715 --> 01:17:37.885
Like, if you ever won this race,

2246
01:17:38.065 --> 01:17:39.245
he wanted to do something cool.

2247
01:17:39.555 --> 01:17:41.525
Have you thought about anything like that?

2248
01:17:41.525 --> 01:17:43.205
That if you win this race, what you would do

2249
01:17:43.345 --> 01:17:45.845
or what the celebration would look like, other than milk

2250
01:17:45.845 --> 01:17:46.885
and tequila, which, you know,

2251
01:17:47.125 --> 01:17:48.485
you've already said you wanted to do.

2252
01:17:48.985 --> 01:17:53.395
<v Speaker 7>Um, you know what would be so cool</v>

2253
01:17:53.895 --> 01:17:58.385
to like open up somewhere

2254
01:17:59.285 --> 01:18:01.145
for people to come onto the straightaway. You

2255
01:18:01.145 --> 01:18:02.545
<v Speaker 1>Wanna try to open the track up?</v>

2256
01:18:02.615 --> 01:18:05.305
Yeah. So that fans can rush the track. Yeah. Yeah.

2257
01:18:05.305 --> 01:18:09.025
You would not be a super loved guy by the staff at IMS,

2258
01:18:09.045 --> 01:18:11.545
but you would be forever loved by the fans of,

2259
01:18:11.905 --> 01:18:12.985
<v Speaker 7>I just don't see an opening.</v>

2260
01:18:13.695 --> 01:18:14.905
<v Speaker 1>What about like, climbing up into</v>

2261
01:18:14.905 --> 01:18:16.065
the, into the flags Stand

2262
01:18:16.985 --> 01:18:18.265
<v Speaker 7>Climbing onto the flags stand. Yeah.</v>

2263
01:18:18.265 --> 01:18:19.225
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So like go through the</v>

2264
01:18:19.225 --> 01:18:20.105
<v Speaker 7>Like through the fence? Yeah.</v>

2265
01:18:20.105 --> 01:18:22.145
<v Speaker 1>Go through the fence. No. And then go up the ladder</v>

2266
01:18:22.525 --> 01:18:26.025
and then in the flags stand you can like address the crowd.

2267
01:18:27.715 --> 01:18:29.375
<v Speaker 7>No, I'll address them while I'm on,</v>

2268
01:18:29.515 --> 01:18:31.055
on the bricks. On the bricks. Yes.

2269
01:18:31.435 --> 01:18:32.935
<v Speaker 1>All right. So you're just gonna hang by the bricks.</v>

2270
01:18:34.095 --> 01:18:35.335
<v Speaker 7>Honestly, I just</v>
<v Speaker 1>Have no idea what you're gonna do.</v>

2271
01:18:35.365 --> 01:18:37.255
It's gonna come, you're gonna follow your gut. I'm

2272
01:18:37.255 --> 01:18:39.175
<v Speaker 7>Gonna follow in in the morning guts. Yes.</v>

2273
01:18:39.275 --> 01:18:41.535
<v Speaker 1>On the day.</v>
<v Speaker 7>That day I'm gonna follow my gut</v>

2274
01:18:41.675 --> 01:18:46.335
and I'm just gonna, it is just gonna be me .

2275
01:18:47.675 --> 01:18:48.775
So you never know what that means.

2276
01:18:48.915 --> 01:18:50.295
<v Speaker 1>You're so good at that and people</v>

2277
01:18:50.295 --> 01:18:51.495
love you doing that buddy.

2278
01:18:51.765 --> 01:18:53.375
Best of luck in the 500. Thank you.

2279
01:18:53.375 --> 01:18:56.495
Maybe this is the year, sat here

2280
01:18:56.495 --> 01:18:58.415
with willpower on Thursday.

2281
01:18:58.415 --> 01:19:00.935
What is, we call it media day, right? Mm-hmm . How are you?

2282
01:19:00.935 --> 01:19:02.535
You, you enjoying your media day so far?

2283
01:19:03.335 --> 01:19:05.735
<v Speaker 8>I am. Yeah. 'cause I've been early for everything</v>

2284
01:19:05.735 --> 01:19:06.935
and it's over after this.

2285
01:19:07.205 --> 01:19:09.455
<v Speaker 1>This is, there's no way you're done after this. I am.</v>

2286
01:19:09.555 --> 01:19:11.175
You're done by 1130. Yeah.

2287
01:19:11.585 --> 01:19:12.615
Crazy that I would be Isn't that crazy?

2288
01:19:12.645 --> 01:19:13.735
Real? By what time did you start?

2289
01:19:14.635 --> 01:19:17.175
<v Speaker 8>10.</v>
<v Speaker 1>That's not enough time, I don't think.</v>

2290
01:19:17.415 --> 01:19:19.055
I think someone's lying to you. No, I'm done.

2291
01:19:19.195 --> 01:19:20.615
No, I'm pretty sure you're not. David.

2292
01:19:21.005 --> 01:19:22.055
Yeah, he's left the room.

2293
01:19:22.165 --> 01:19:24.175
He's not, uh uh, I'm done. No, this is

2294
01:19:24.175 --> 01:19:25.175
<v Speaker 8>The last thing,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Man.</v>

2295
01:19:25.175 --> 01:19:27.415
Well then I'm gonna drag this out for an hour. Good.

2296
01:19:27.895 --> 01:19:30.695
<v Speaker 8>I like that. It's a fun chat. Okay. People will enjoy it.</v>

2297
01:19:30.715 --> 01:19:32.695
<v Speaker 1>People will enjoy it.</v>
<v Speaker 8>Marcus won't.</v>

2298
01:19:32.755 --> 01:19:34.495
<v Speaker 1>No. Marcus is the,</v>
<v Speaker 8>The next</v>

2299
01:19:34.495 --> 01:19:35.695
<v Speaker 1>Guy Jack is gonna be really,</v>

2300
01:19:35.695 --> 01:19:37.135
and all the drivers behind you Yes.

2301
01:19:37.135 --> 01:19:39.215
Will be a little bit upset. Um, okay. Look.

2302
01:19:41.055 --> 01:19:42.415
Hmm. How's your, Hmm?

2303
01:19:43.285 --> 01:19:45.375
<v Speaker 8>Just</v>
<v Speaker 1>Say it. Okay. Look, let me ask you this.</v>

2304
01:19:45.375 --> 01:19:46.495
Here's what I really wanted to ask you.

2305
01:19:47.315 --> 01:19:49.935
Uh, obviously some stuff happened on qualifying day mm-hmm .

2306
01:19:50.015 --> 01:19:52.455
And you weren't allowed to go for your shot at poll. Yes.

2307
01:19:53.565 --> 01:19:55.415
Were you bummed about that in the sense

2308
01:19:55.415 --> 01:19:57.375
that you thought you had enough to maybe shoot for poll?

2309
01:19:57.375 --> 01:19:58.215
You've, you've won more

2310
01:19:58.215 --> 01:19:59.455
polls in this series than anyone else.

2311
01:19:59.595 --> 01:20:01.015
Yes. You don't have a poll here? Yeah.

2312
01:20:01.175 --> 01:20:02.215
I know it's something that you really

2313
01:20:02.215 --> 01:20:03.295
wanna add to this ev Yeah.

2314
01:20:03.435 --> 01:20:05.095
You had a good car, you had a good shot.

2315
01:20:05.715 --> 01:20:07.885
Did that, was that make make it sting a little extra?

2316
01:20:08.325 --> 01:20:09.605
<v Speaker 8>I don't think I had the car for pole.</v>

2317
01:20:09.705 --> 01:20:11.605
No, I don't think so. What do you think it could have?

2318
01:20:11.645 --> 01:20:14.965
I was, my car was not, we weren't the, the quickest.

2319
01:20:14.965 --> 01:20:17.605
We certainly had a car, maybe front row,

2320
01:20:17.745 --> 01:20:19.365
but probably second row.

2321
01:20:20.395 --> 01:20:23.525
Yeah. But yeah, it was a very strange circumstance when

2322
01:20:23.525 --> 01:20:25.805
you're fire up Yep.

2323
01:20:26.705 --> 01:20:29.925
Firing up and then pull you back. Yeah.

2324
01:20:30.305 --> 01:20:32.805
The funniest thing, the funniest thing is the whole thing is

2325
01:20:33.005 --> 01:20:34.805
watching my manager Orel serve his face.

2326
01:20:34.915 --> 01:20:36.245
He's standing like right there,

2327
01:20:36.905 --> 01:20:41.125
and  as the car goes pulled back, he's sort of like, like,

2328
01:20:41.125 --> 01:20:42.445
<v Speaker 1>This isn't how this</v>
<v Speaker 8>Goes.</v>

2329
01:20:42.545 --> 01:20:43.685
It was what's happening. Strange.

2330
01:20:44.155 --> 01:20:46.685
Like it was almost worth it to see his face .

2331
01:20:47.305 --> 01:20:49.365
It was just like, it,

2332
01:20:49.365 --> 01:20:51.205
it would be awesome if it was a prank Yeah.

2333
01:20:51.385 --> 01:20:52.845
On him because

2334
01:20:52.845 --> 01:20:54.325
<v Speaker 1>He, you organized the whole thing, just</v>

2335
01:20:54.325 --> 01:20:55.325
<v Speaker 8>Prank.</v>

2336
01:20:55.325 --> 01:20:56.525
Yeah. He just organized the whole thing. It was a prank on

2337
01:20:56.525 --> 01:20:58.485
him because the look on his face had someone next to him.

2338
01:20:58.485 --> 01:21:00.085
He is like, he didn't say anything.

2339
01:21:00.085 --> 01:21:02.605
He just kind of started looking around like, what's going

2340
01:21:02.825 --> 01:21:03.825
<v Speaker 1>On?</v>

2341
01:21:03.825 --> 01:21:04.525
Well the track's that way. Well, well,

2342
01:21:04.675 --> 01:21:08.645
<v Speaker 8>Well, yeah, it was a very, like, this sort</v>

2343
01:21:08.645 --> 01:21:11.565
of prank I'd like to do, but it wasn't a prank. So

2344
01:21:11.755 --> 01:21:13.325
<v Speaker 1>What were they telling you inside the car?</v>

2345
01:21:13.485 --> 01:21:14.725
'cause you're already bolted in Yeah, right.

2346
01:21:14.745 --> 01:21:16.845
You're helmets on, you're just sitting there waiting to go

2347
01:21:16.845 --> 01:21:18.725
and all of a sudden they start towing you back.

2348
01:21:19.075 --> 01:21:22.325
<v Speaker 8>Well, I was aware before I got in that there was an issue.</v>

2349
01:21:22.555 --> 01:21:25.005
Okay. Um, you know, so you've prepped with the attenuator,

2350
01:21:26.345 --> 01:21:28.805
not really prepped, but watching this go down

2351
01:21:29.235 --> 01:21:30.605
that potentially we have a problem,

2352
01:21:30.745 --> 01:21:32.845
but I just kept my mind clear

2353
01:21:33.065 --> 01:21:35.445
and I'm gonna get in the car, we're probably gonna run.

2354
01:21:35.445 --> 01:21:37.085
Mm-hmm. You know, I didn't even think there was a,

2355
01:21:37.505 --> 01:21:38.685
you know, we're not gonna run.

2356
01:21:39.265 --> 01:21:41.085
Um, and then yeah,

2357
01:21:42.335 --> 01:21:45.445
<v Speaker 1>Qualifying this year seems to be, you know, we talking</v>

2358
01:21:45.445 --> 01:21:47.085
to the drivers, they're all kind of talking about

2359
01:21:47.085 --> 01:21:48.285
how the cars are a little more on edge.

2360
01:21:48.285 --> 01:21:50.525
Mm-hmm . Harder to drive. Are you finding the same thing?

2361
01:21:50.525 --> 01:21:52.805
Is, is qualifying a little trickier in 25? It

2362
01:21:52.805 --> 01:21:53.805
<v Speaker 8>Is.</v>

2363
01:21:53.805 --> 01:21:54.285
It was definitely trickier. Yeah.

2364
01:21:54.385 --> 01:21:57.405
It was, um, it was very hard to get the balance right

2365
01:21:57.995 --> 01:21:59.325
without being on the edge.

2366
01:21:59.345 --> 01:22:00.445
But then when you're on the edge,

2367
01:22:00.445 --> 01:22:01.645
you've got more weight there,

2368
01:22:01.705 --> 01:22:04.485
so your moment is bigger, harder to catch.

2369
01:22:05.025 --> 01:22:09.005
Um, and I think just the fact the car is just heavier, uh,

2370
01:22:09.345 --> 01:22:13.965
you know, it's, it's um, it's more on the limit.

2371
01:22:14.075 --> 01:22:15.725
It's kind of,

2372
01:22:16.545 --> 01:22:19.045
you definitely ran more downforce than the year before

2373
01:22:19.625 --> 01:22:21.485
and that's probably the case in the race as well,

2374
01:22:21.685 --> 01:22:22.925
although it's gonna be quite cool.

2375
01:22:23.665 --> 01:22:26.565
Um, but yes, they're certainly more on a knife's edge.

2376
01:22:27.585 --> 01:22:29.725
<v Speaker 1>You kind of mentioned the, the cool conditions I wanted</v>

2377
01:22:29.725 --> 01:22:32.285
to ask you, you know, you're starting near the back

2378
01:22:33.105 --> 01:22:34.285
at the back last row.

2379
01:22:34.285 --> 01:22:38.125
Yeah. Um, with the conditions kind of shaping up the way

2380
01:22:38.125 --> 01:22:41.485
that they look like they're gonna be cool overcast, does

2381
01:22:41.485 --> 01:22:43.125
that make you feel a little bit better?

2382
01:22:43.125 --> 01:22:45.725
Because traditionally that leads to better racing

2383
01:22:45.905 --> 01:22:47.965
and maybe when you're having to come up from the back,

2384
01:22:48.025 --> 01:22:49.725
it can give you a little bit more opportunity to move out?

2385
01:22:50.035 --> 01:22:51.885
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. It, it can go both ways.</v>

2386
01:22:52.395 --> 01:22:57.365
Like a hot track, a hot day will certainly bring out like,

2387
01:22:57.865 --> 01:22:58.805
you know, bring a bigger

2388
01:22:58.805 --> 01:23:00.165
difference between good and bad cars.

2389
01:23:00.945 --> 01:23:03.525
So, you know, I felt like our cars are pretty good all

2390
01:23:03.525 --> 01:23:04.565
month in traffic.

2391
01:23:05.665 --> 01:23:06.665
Um,

2392
01:23:06.945 --> 01:23:07.965
<v Speaker 1>So you think this helps the,</v>

2393
01:23:07.965 --> 01:23:09.165
helps the cars that were struggling

2394
01:23:09.195 --> 01:23:10.195
<v Speaker 8>More than you?</v>

2395
01:23:10.195 --> 01:23:12.005
Yeah. I mean, last year the cool condition

2396
01:23:12.005 --> 01:23:15.005
that it was created a really, really intense race.

2397
01:23:15.055 --> 01:23:17.205
Right. And, and, uh, everyone was closer.

2398
01:23:17.425 --> 01:23:19.365
All the cars were good. Um,

2399
01:23:19.625 --> 01:23:21.605
but the fact that the cars are heavier now

2400
01:23:21.625 --> 01:23:25.845
and they seem to be harder to find a balance, you know,

2401
01:23:25.845 --> 01:23:28.325
you could, you kind of get these big front wash aways

2402
01:23:28.325 --> 01:23:30.885
and obviously you can't set it up to be too loose

2403
01:23:30.885 --> 01:23:33.245
because it, it can just snap like that.

2404
01:23:33.465 --> 01:23:37.485
So, um, yeah. It, it, it could be better.

2405
01:23:37.705 --> 01:23:40.325
It could be because people are struggling to find a balance

2406
01:23:40.385 --> 01:23:43.925
and you can follow closer in the cool, it's hard to predict.

2407
01:23:44.065 --> 01:23:45.065
It really is.

2408
01:23:45.745 --> 01:23:49.245
<v Speaker 1>You have to tackle a, what I would imagine is a bit more</v>

2409
01:23:49.245 --> 01:23:51.925
of a, it's already a strategic race because it's 500 miles.

2410
01:23:51.995 --> 01:23:53.085
It's all the stop is whatever,

2411
01:23:53.415 --> 01:23:55.725
maybe a little bit more strategy required to try

2412
01:23:55.725 --> 01:23:57.525
to find you some track position starting where you are.

2413
01:23:57.785 --> 01:24:00.045
How much harder is that gonna be with some kind

2414
01:24:00.045 --> 01:24:02.245
of new personnel in that position on the stand?

2415
01:24:03.285 --> 01:24:06.485
<v Speaker 8>I, I don't think that will be a problem. Yeah.</v>

2416
01:24:06.685 --> 01:24:09.205
I think, you know, with Jonathan Dugood,

2417
01:24:09.235 --> 01:24:10.565
he's been in IndyCar before.

2418
01:24:10.565 --> 01:24:14.405
He is done plenty of Indy five hundreds. Um, yeah.

2419
01:24:14.525 --> 01:24:18.325
I, I don't, you know, I think that it, yes,

2420
01:24:18.325 --> 01:24:21.005
there's a disturbance very used to Ron.

2421
01:24:21.185 --> 01:24:22.845
He was very good, good at his job.

2422
01:24:23.345 --> 01:24:26.725
Um, but you know, the team has, you know, a lot of depth

2423
01:24:26.745 --> 01:24:30.965
and talent and it's easy to put someone in there that's, uh,

2424
01:24:31.115 --> 01:24:32.565
that knows the game pretty well.

2425
01:24:32.785 --> 01:24:35.045
And you've got Dave, he's, you know, him

2426
01:24:35.045 --> 01:24:38.125
and I have worked together for so many years,

2427
01:24:38.955 --> 01:24:40.885
obviously my experience as well.

2428
01:24:41.245 --> 01:24:43.005
I kind of understand the strategies in the

2429
01:24:43.005 --> 01:24:44.045
car and have you done this before?

2430
01:24:44.595 --> 01:24:45.605
Yeah. Right. Oh, cool. .

2431
01:24:46.705 --> 01:24:49.045
And I can give, you know, my opinion on

2432
01:24:49.045 --> 01:24:50.565
what I think we should do as well.

2433
01:24:50.745 --> 01:24:53.165
You know, I, you know, give them the information they

2434
01:24:53.165 --> 01:24:54.325
need to make a good decision.

2435
01:24:54.465 --> 01:24:58.805
So, um, I'm not, not not very concerned about that.

2436
01:24:59.755 --> 01:25:01.405
<v Speaker 1>Have you done the last row party yet?</v>

2437
01:25:02.125 --> 01:25:03.205
<v Speaker 8>I have not done the last row.</v>

2438
01:25:03.285 --> 01:25:04.405
I was just told that I have to do it.

2439
01:25:04.685 --> 01:25:05.685
I must have done it before started.

2440
01:25:05.685 --> 01:25:06.765
You've done it. Yeah. Yeah.

2441
01:25:06.985 --> 01:25:07.845
<v Speaker 1>So you don't, you</v>

2442
01:25:07.845 --> 01:25:09.045
don't remember it? You blocked it outta your mind?

2443
01:25:09.165 --> 01:25:10.525
<v Speaker 8>I don't remember. Yeah. Strangely.</v>

2444
01:25:10.605 --> 01:25:13.085
I don't remember going to the last row party. Do you know

2445
01:25:13.085 --> 01:25:14.085
<v Speaker 1>When it is?</v>

2446
01:25:14.115 --> 01:25:16.165
<v Speaker 8>It's tonight. Is it tonight? Okay. It's tonight. Yeah.</v>

2447
01:25:16.385 --> 01:25:18.045
<v Speaker 1>So, uh, okay, so, uh, let me,</v>

2448
01:25:18.065 --> 01:25:19.525
let me, I'm gonna say inform you.

2449
01:25:19.525 --> 01:25:20.685
Let me reinform you as to

2450
01:25:20.685 --> 01:25:21.765
what happens at the last row party.

2451
01:25:22.045 --> 01:25:24.285
'cause I too have been. Um, you get a,

2452
01:25:24.285 --> 01:25:26.805
so you're starting 30 last, you're starting 33rd.

2453
01:25:26.805 --> 01:25:28.885
Yes. Okay. So, uh, you get a check.

2454
01:25:29.635 --> 01:25:31.125
<v Speaker 8>Okay. Do you know that</v>
<v Speaker 1>You get a problem?</v>

2455
01:25:31.225 --> 01:25:33.525
<v Speaker 8>Oh, now I, maybe it's ringing a bell now, not coming back.</v>

2456
01:25:33.745 --> 01:25:34.885
<v Speaker 1>How</v>
<v Speaker 8>Much your checks gonna for?</v>

2457
01:25:34.885 --> 01:25:36.165
I think it was like 1 cent or something. It was

2458
01:25:36.165 --> 01:25:37.165
<v Speaker 1>Be for 33 cents.</v>

2459
01:25:37.165 --> 01:25:38.365
33 cents. Okay. Yeah.

2460
01:25:38.425 --> 01:25:40.045
So the question, this is what all the people wanna know.

2461
01:25:40.065 --> 01:25:41.365
You get athletes get these big checks.

2462
01:25:41.545 --> 01:25:43.045
How you gonna spend your, uh, prize money?

2463
01:25:43.045 --> 01:25:47.125
<v Speaker 8>33 cents. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go on and and Google</v>

2464
01:25:47.385 --> 01:25:50.925
and say, what is the best bang for your buck for 33 cents?

2465
01:25:51.265 --> 01:25:53.125
And I'm gonna spend it on that. It's gonna

2466
01:25:53.125 --> 01:25:54.725
<v Speaker 1>Depend what country you're in, but, uh,</v>

2467
01:25:55.025 --> 01:25:57.845
<v Speaker 8>It further and I'll fly to that country just</v>

2468
01:25:57.845 --> 01:25:59.085
<v Speaker 1>To spend that</v>
<v Speaker 8>30%</v>

2469
01:25:59.225 --> 01:26:00.925
<v Speaker 1>In the best possible</v>
<v Speaker 8>Way, just to say, look,</v>

2470
01:26:01.155 --> 01:26:02.165
this is what I get.

2471
01:26:02.315 --> 01:26:04.325
<v Speaker 1>Well, look, why don't we wait until Monday</v>

2472
01:26:04.325 --> 01:26:06.605
because maybe you'll have a bigger prize money check to

2473
01:26:06.605 --> 01:26:07.605
<v Speaker 8>Be celebrating.</v>

2474
01:26:07.605 --> 01:26:08.485
And that will, that will be what I use

2475
01:26:08.485 --> 01:26:10.645
to get a private plane to the place to spend, just

2476
01:26:10.645 --> 01:26:12.205
to spend the 33 30 3 cents. Amazing.

2477
01:26:12.205 --> 01:26:13.245
<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope it's a big check.</v>

2478
01:26:13.385 --> 01:26:14.845
So you gotta have a nice big plane and go

2479
01:26:15.145 --> 01:26:16.145
<v Speaker 8>As far as you want.</v>

2480
01:26:16.145 --> 01:26:16.965
It would be. It would be really cool. Yeah.

2481
01:26:16.985 --> 01:26:18.805
You go there, you get your soda drink

2482
01:26:18.805 --> 01:26:20.005
it say, that was worth it. .

2483
01:26:20.675 --> 01:26:22.525
<v Speaker 1>That would be worth</v>
<v Speaker 8>It. That was worth it.</v>

2484
01:26:22.595 --> 01:26:24.405
Best of luck. Thank you. Or maybe it's a house.

2485
01:26:24.525 --> 01:26:26.085
I don't know. It depends on the country.

2486
01:26:26.545 --> 01:26:28.525
<v Speaker 1>33 cent house. Would you wanna live there?</v>

2487
01:26:29.265 --> 01:26:32.805
<v Speaker 8>It could be good. You don't know. You don't know. It won't</v>

2488
01:26:32.805 --> 01:26:33.805
<v Speaker 1>Be good.</v>

2489
01:26:34.835 --> 01:26:36.645
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