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<v Speaker 1>This is off track.</v>

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Hello. And welcome to Off Track with Hinch or Rossi.

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I guess you've already figured out who's here this week.

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Um, dude, sorry if I sound like a bag of stuff.

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It's, I, I just woke up.

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I've been sleeping for 12 hours

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after traveling for, I don't even know.

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Yeah, it's not good given my line of work. This

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<v Speaker 2>Is so weird though.</v>

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Okay, so you slept in and have done nothing.

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I've run four and a half miles

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today.
<v Speaker 1>, .</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Like,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Is this is what it's like to be,</v>

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you wake up in California 12 hours after I went to

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bed.
<v Speaker 2>?</v>

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Yeah, kind of. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was, that's, that's what I've done.</v>

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Yeah, man. Okay.

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So you've gotten up, you've been to the gym. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>Got shower hazel at school.</v>

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She showered. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That's, uh, okay, so four</v>

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and a half miles you ran? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've, I've still put on the weekend.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't do like</v>
<v Speaker 2>An eight or something.</v>

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I'm on the A nine, so like yeah, it's,

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it's like you do two runs on the week

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that are kind of on the shorter side.

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So this week it's two, four and a half mile runs.

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And then this Saturday right

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before Long Beach, get in the mood with a 10 miler. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning you're doing a 10 miler.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So like if I'm limping</v>

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around the paddock Saturday, that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what? You won't be</v>

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because you've been doing your training and like you did.

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How was it after the nine?

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<v Speaker 2>The nine wasn't as bad as I thought.</v>

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The eight was the hardest. 'cause I, I'm gonna be honest,

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I had a little bit of wine the night before the eight .

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Tim, that does affect your running</v>

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performance the following day.

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<v Speaker 2>So the eight was the hardest.</v>

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The nine wasn't that bad,

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but it was still like my legs were jello yesterday.

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Afterwards it was like,

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I guess I've just never run that far.

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I used to row in high school, so the most I'd ever run

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before was, was like 10 Ks when we were being punished.

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Um, . , like

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<v Speaker 1>When you, you did not stroke at the appropriate time</v>

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as the other people in the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it's a, it's a new thing.</v>

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How did you, did you hit your a hundred miles in February?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I threw my back out</v>

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and so that's, it's such an old man story.

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I literally,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a comment after.</v>

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Okay.
<v Speaker 1>. No, I was, I was doing great.</v>

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Like I was on pace to be, I I was, I was on pace

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to have like three days off at the end of the month.

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And um, I was running, we were actually out in LA

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and I was on the treadmill

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and I just, I think I slept funny.

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I'd been in, you know, my eighth bed in

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10 nights or something.

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And, um, I ran and I like tweaked something in my back

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and it's like, it threw a rib out on my,

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on like the back half of me or something, I don't know.

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And so like, I'll just take a day off.

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I've, I've built myself up a bit of a buffer

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and, um, yeah, I was like almost immobile for like four days

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and then I had to come home, go to the chiropractor

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and then it still took a few more days, so I didn't, it,

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I was, I didn't run for like a week

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and then I was like, I'm not gonna now jump back on a

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treadmill and have to do eight miles a day for the rest

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of the month to make this, so I'm just gonna

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defer it to a future month. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Back stuff is the worst.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Man, man, I threw</v>

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<v Speaker 2>My back out in January, like lifting some suitcases</v>

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and it's just been kind of like, I have

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to stretch twice a day whether I'm working out

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or not, to just not have it hurt anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes.  it's stretching is so important.</v>

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And I do it like, I dunno if you can negative stretch,

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but that's basically how I live my life.

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I, uh, you know, I sit a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they call that like flying.</v>

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Flying is the negative stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct. Exactly. Sitting in a,</v>

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in a like seated position on a

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plane for that amount of hours.

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It is so bad for you. And Becky yells at me all the time,

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very rightly as she should to stretch more.

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And I almost, almost never do it.

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She challenged me to be able to like straight legs bend over

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and touch my toes by the time we got home from Japan.

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And like, I got it. Like I had to work at it.

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'cause I was pretty far away before we went and I got there,

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but it was like I had to do a little bit of a momentum

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and like, ugh, like at that last, that last like, quarter

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of an inch, I had to like, I couldn't hold my toes,

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you know, I can touch 'em, but I need a little Yeah.

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You know, it's bad, man.

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I need, I need so much help. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not good. Um, yeah, I, so, okay.</v>

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Have you, are you a big believer in the

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chiropractor? Do you go off?

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at I, I am, I am.</v>

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I think I, I think before this happened,

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I had been twice in my life.

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Um, and, but then,

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and then on the other side of the scale,

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Becky is like a religious believer.

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So where do you fall in the chiropractic scale?

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<v Speaker 2>I was always super opposed to the chiropractor. Yes.</v>

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Because I've just like, that's kind of me.

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I've heard enough about like the history of it

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as a medicine to know that

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<v Speaker 1>'cause I'm a medical practice. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That it was like kind of bunk science,</v>

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but I'll be, I went after this most recent one and like,

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after I threw my back out in January, I went, I went to the,

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uh, chiropractor out here

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and like, I'll, I, I'll say it helped, but like

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before he did the adjustment stuff,

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I was just being stretched out for like 10 minutes.

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So I think that's what really helped.

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It was like, all right, I'm gonna make sure you're really

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stretched out and then I'm just gonna make things pop.

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So it sounds like I did something . But here's

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<v Speaker 1>The, here's here's the other thing too though, right?</v>

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Is like, as much as I was kind of antigo, um, I,

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I crack my knuckles 20 times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But that's just releasing air.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And like, but like,</v>

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and I'll, I'll crack like I have like, sometimes I'll crack,

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I don't even know what I'm cracking when I do it.

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It's like something in my pelvis region.

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Like if I've been sitting, I can kinda like do something

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where I lock my ankles together and pull apart.

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Oh, interesting. Tailbone. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I crack my neck a lot.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you crack your neck a lot.</v>

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Like everything that I crack on my own on my

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body, I'm like, oh, this is great.

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I love this . And then all

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of a sudden when someone else is doing it, I'm like, mm.

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I don't know if I buy into this science.

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Like, it doesn't make any sense.

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, it's a orly a hypocritical approach to

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<v Speaker 2>Take.</v>

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Well, no, I know that they're cracking it.

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I, I just don't know if it is actually doing anything good.

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Right, ? Like

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<v Speaker 1>When you</v>
<v Speaker 2>Cracking</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Your</v>
<v Speaker 2>Knuckles. My, you</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just, my biggest fear.</v>

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Yes. My, my biggest fear with it was always

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'cause I had heard, or I knew people, I forget

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where this came from,

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but it was like, once you do it, you become reliant on it

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and you have to keep doing it forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is like chapstick It's like  .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it was my same philosophy</v>

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with why I never started drinking coffee.

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'cause I, growing up, I,

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when my friends started transitioning into drinking coffee,

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then when they were, they would have days

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where they didn't get their coffee

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or like, you know, they were just completely miserable.

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They were different people before they had two cups

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of coffee in the morning and I was like,

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I never wanna be reliant on having coffee

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to feel like myself.

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I never wanted to be reliant on,

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on somebody cracking my back to me

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for me to like, feel good.

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So I was just like, I'll just suffer through everything

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and it'll take care of itself.

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That's like kind of my take on medicine and illness

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and sickness and injury is just wait it out. It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think though, like, we're, we're at a point,</v>

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and admittedly, you're significantly older than me.

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Like eight. Okay. Just calm down.

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80, 90 years old. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Pump the breaks.</v>
<v Speaker 2>, I think we've both solidly</v>

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passed the point of like,

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you can't really build a base for yourself anymore.

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Do you know what I mean? Like you've

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I, yes, a hundred percent</v>
<v Speaker 2>. We're on,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>We're on that. We</v>

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<v Speaker 2>We're having coffee now.</v>

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Yeah. Like we're at least at that.

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We're at least at that like the free hang moment.

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We throw the ball in the air

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before it starts coming back down.

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We're not, we don't have upward momentum anymore. . No,

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<v Speaker 1>No, no.</v>

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We are on the back half of the hill. Yes.

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I see what you're saying. Um,

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and you know, that's actually

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there, there's something to that.

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Because what I will say, the, the one thing

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that I've taken out of my, you know,

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going into my fourth year of working F1 now is I drink a lot

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of espresso on F1 weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Because that's coffee.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know . But let me, let me ex let me explain.</v>

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When I say, when I say, you know, I don't drink coffee,

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I mean that, like, I don't do, I don't have a morning cup

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of coffee in, in any capacity whatsoever.

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Um, that's not when I have to espresso.

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I have to espresso jet lagged at two 30

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to three 30 in the afternoon when you're like,

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you still have another session to go

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and you're like, I just need, I need a little caffeine shot.

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Okay. But I also, I also hate every second of it, right?

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So not only do I not drink coffee in the morning,

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most people that do drink coffee in the

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morning, they enjoy it.

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They enjoy the routine. They enjoy, enjoy the smell. I do.

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They enjoy the taste. I have to have an espresso

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for the sake of the caffeine.

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Sometimes I'll use a Red Bull instead of an espresso.

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But sometimes it's not appropriate to have a Red Bull

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'cause you're sitting in the ho hospitality or something.

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Or McLaren hospitality.

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So you have coffee or you have espresso. I

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't even think about that.</v>

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It's, yeah, , it's

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it's like in the minimal amount of coffee delivery.

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I get the caffeine that I need. So I, I do not like coffee.

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I do not drink coffee.

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I will essentially smash an espresso

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for like self preservation.

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But that's

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<v Speaker 2>It. I, I like</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Routine.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>A</v>
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<v Speaker 2>Routine.</v>

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I like the routine. And honestly, nine times outta 10,

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my neighbor Casey pops over.

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I make a cup of coffee for him too.

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I'll read a section of paper, pass it over to him.

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We'll have the news on. We'll just sit around and chat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just an old married couple?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys do like the crossword together or</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do the crossword myself.</v>

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'cause I pay for the paper. If he wants to get,

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<v Speaker 1>He</v>
<v Speaker 2>Can get his own subscription. .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>He gets the Sudoku. Because you don't like those?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I do the jumble and the crossword.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. Have we,</v>

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have we talked about your new desk yet?

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No, dude. Okay.

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So we're just going to like completely brush over the fact

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that your background is a completely different thing.

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And even though it kind of looks fake like it, if it wasn't

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for the Macbeth book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's, it's real</v>

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<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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No, no, no. Yeah, I know. Yeah, like your hair,

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it looks fake, but it is very much real. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>I even got this picture of me holding you up.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you know's Legit . When was that?</v>

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From 20 15, 20 16?

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<v Speaker 2>That would've been, yeah, that was</v>

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<v Speaker 1>2016.</v>

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2016. That's after Dancing the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Right? After Dancing with the Stars.</v>

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'cause s Shana was there that night.

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Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Now felt like, uh, you know, about time to start getting rid

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of the stuff that I brought to this apartment from college.

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Like, I still had the same .

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I still had a lot of the same, I I was getting rid

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of some stuff and, uh, one

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of the surge protectors at my old desk, like had the name

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of the rental property that I stole it from in college. .

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It's like, it's like, oh, that's, I probably that like that.

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I don't think that's protecting from Surge anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think, I don't think</v>

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it ever did, if I'm honest.

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If they were just giving 'em away to college kids.

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Yeah, no, it's, it's, uh, it's crazy man.

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Podcasting must be going pretty well for you.

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buying new furniture and

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<v Speaker 2>No, I stole this from a college house.</v>

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Just like everything. Okay, good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I was gonna say, I have no new furniture</v>

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from, from podcasting,

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so I'm not entirely sure how this speaking is

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<v Speaker 2>Happening.</v>

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Hey, speaking. Where are you recording from right now?

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<v Speaker 1>A friend's house.</v>
<v Speaker 2>In what municipality?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually know the</v>

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answer to that. I'm not sure where that'd be.

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<v Speaker 2>Malibu. It's Malibu. Okay.</v>

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Malibu's it own municipality. Is

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<v Speaker 1>It?</v>

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Yeah. That's What does that have to do?

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That's you live in Los Angeles.

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What is, what is that, what are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of bad places in la.</v>

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Not a lot of bad places in

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Malibu,
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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No, no, they're not. They're not.

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And I'm eternally grateful, uh, to my friends

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for allowing us to crash here for a few days

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as we get over our Japan hangover.

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<v Speaker 2>So how was, how was the travel back?</v>

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You were there covering F1.

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We'll do that in the main episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll cover, we're gonna cover some travel stuff, uh,</v>

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on the Thursday episode

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because as a travel podcast, it seems only appropriate

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to hold some of it off.

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Um, I will say that it, we made it, I'll tell you,

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I'll tell you this story of leaving the,

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the track on Sunday.

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So , here's look,

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F1 has this interesting, um,

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dilemma, right?

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Okay. So there are a lot

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of good things about having sellout crowds in the healthy

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six figure number, right?

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Most series would aspire to have fat and,

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and welcome it with open arms.

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There are some challenges. We get

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<v Speaker 2>It once a year,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Right?</v>

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And there are some challenges. Um, we

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<v Speaker 2>Get it once a year.</v>
<v Speaker 1>,</v>

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right? Namely egress. Yeah.

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Is, um, you know, people trickle in at different times.

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You know, uh, people all leave in a pretty small window.

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And most old school

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racetracks are built out in the middle of nowhere

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because that's the only place

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you're allowed to build racetracks.

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And so the infrastructure for a mass exodus

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of human beings not awesome.

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Non-existent, not awesome. No.

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So Becky

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and I's Plan  post-race

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was our friends had come out, um,

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our friends from Singapore had flown outta Japan.

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They, Becky and, and

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and them were hanging out over the weekend.

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Um, they all came to the race on Sunday.

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They very smartly ducked outta the race a little bit

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before the end and started the train trip back to Kyoto,

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which is where they had been staying.

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And so my plan was Sunday night Becky was gonna stay

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with me, so they were gonna take off,

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Becky was gonna stay at the track with me.

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And then her and I were going to trip back

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to train trip back to Kyoto, which is like an hour

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and 20 minutes kind of on a normal program.

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That's like what it took them to get in, for example.

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So race finishes, post race show finishes.

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I wrap up some loose ends

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and we're like, okay, um, our options are

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get into one of the cars that the crew has drive back

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to our hotel, which Google Maps was saying at the time

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of our decision making was gonna be an hour

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and 15 minute drive in the wrong direction from Kyoto,

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but we could then like get a train from

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there and start the journey.

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And I knew based on experience of leaving that track

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for every night for the last four nights,

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hour 15 was incorrect.

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It was going to be longer than that. Okay.

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So I'm like, no, no, there's a train station here.

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Yes, it's gonna be packed with people,

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but it's probably still quicker

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to just go line up there and, and do that.

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So I get my luggage outta the car

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and we walk with the masses

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for like a mile to the train station.

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Try again. This thing we get in the lineup for the train

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with the people, not the people people.

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Correct? Yeah, yeah. Just, yeah. Yes. With the people.

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Right. There were, there was, it was no people, people

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around and, um,

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and we get to like, we can see the train station.

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We saw the line before we saw the train station, if that, if

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that makes sense on the sidewalk.

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Um, and we got there, we lined up, we were only 50%.

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There were two lines. We were only 50%

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sure we were in the right line.

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And we stayed in line for about 45 minutes.

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And we then kind of did the math, you know,

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it's like when you use a legend on a map

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or like, hey, one inch is 82 miles or whatever.

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And we were like, okay, we've moved this far in this amount

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of time, so it's gonna be, it's gonna be three

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and a half to four hours before we get on a train .

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So we were like, huh.

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Now luckily one of the cars hadn't left yet from the track.

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And so we pulled shoot, didn't about face, ran back

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to the racetrack, still carrying luggage

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and uh, found the lovely Laura Winter and Amy ovary

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and they gave us a ride back to the hotel from the hotel.

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We then got to the train station there

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and got on the first train to then go to Nagoya station

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to get on the bullet train to go to Kyoto

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to then get into cab to go to the Airbnb.

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We were staying at the, even these trains,

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like at this point is, are so busy

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because there's just people scattering from the

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region going everywhere.

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Right? So the, the trains there, they have,

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um, seats.

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The last row of each car is reserved for people

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with big luggage because there's like a big space

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behind the last row of seats to the,

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to like the bulkhead to the, to the wall.

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Basically. Not enough for another seat,

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but enough to like squeeze in some suitcases.

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So like if you're booking a ticket on this, on these trains

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and you have luggage, you like try to reserve that last row.

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Right? And so we got on this train and I have a suitcase.

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We had not reserved, this was not a reserve ticket car,

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but the place was, was packed.

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There were people standing in like the breezeways

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between the cars or whatever.

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But there was the last row of this train.

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People were in the seats,

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but there was nobody in the back rows.

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So I was like, cool. So we could chuck our luggage

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or my luggage in that section.

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But then there was nowhere to sit.

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So we were just hanging out on the other side

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in this luggage space.

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Becky and I were just like standing there.

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But then it was kind of awkward 'cause we're like standing

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over the people sitting directly in front of us.

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And I was like, I wouldn't love that if that was me.

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So we crouched down and we were jammed.

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I'm gonna show you the picture. We were in the luggage

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compartment for all intents

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and purposes on this train riding home.

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So like Tim for reference, like

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that's okay.

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Okay. So then, so then I jumped it. Yeah. Text those to me

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<v Speaker 2>So I can post these on the video.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So then I joined her</v>

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and so then we're just crouching down behind this

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behind this row seats jammed in there.

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And that was just until we got to the next train.

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Anyway, the, the, the, the journey out of the track

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to get back to Kyoto was, uh, it was something, man,

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it was an interesting, it was an interesting experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So, okay, I've had somebody ask this to me</v>

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because they're, they're coming to the Indy 500

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for the first time this year.

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And I, I tried to warn,

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they were like, well, how is it getting in?

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I was like, getting in's.

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Okay, it's not great, but it's okay.

466
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Getting out's gonna be your problem.

467
00:18:42.315 --> 00:18:44.935
And 'cause same thing everybody trickles in,

468
00:18:45.235 --> 00:18:46.575
you all leave at the same time.

469
00:18:47.555 --> 00:18:49.375
Uh, with that, all of that,

470
00:18:49.595 --> 00:18:51.535
if somebody was considering going to that race

471
00:18:51.555 --> 00:18:53.455
for the first time, would you say it's worth it?

472
00:18:53.995 --> 00:18:57.495
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah. Look man, it's um, I think because</v>

473
00:18:57.615 --> 00:18:58.975
<v Speaker 2>I, I think the five hundred's worth it,</v>

474
00:18:59.205 --> 00:19:00.495
<v Speaker 1>500 is for sure worth it.</v>

475
00:19:01.035 --> 00:19:05.775
The, the, the difference being the 500 is, um,

476
00:19:06.725 --> 00:19:08.855
very different from the rest of our races.

477
00:19:09.075 --> 00:19:10.095
Mm-hmm . Right?

478
00:19:10.485 --> 00:19:13.375
Like, would I want to sit in traffic

479
00:19:13.435 --> 00:19:16.615
for three hours to leave mid Ohio? I don't know.

480
00:19:16.855 --> 00:19:18.695
<v Speaker 2>I guess, I guess if you're going to Japan, you're,</v>

481
00:19:18.695 --> 00:19:20.975
that's probably the only F1 race you're going to

482
00:19:21.485 --> 00:19:22.775
like most of those people, right?

483
00:19:23.005 --> 00:19:25.295
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Or like, it's a bucket list one that you want to go</v>

484
00:19:25.295 --> 00:19:26.815
to for the sake of seeing Suzuka.

485
00:19:26.935 --> 00:19:28.295
'cause it's one of the coolest tracks in the world.

486
00:19:28.395 --> 00:19:30.215
And so like, so yes, it is worth it.

487
00:19:30.375 --> 00:19:33.535
I do think, look, if I were to do it again, Tim,

488
00:19:33.655 --> 00:19:35.775
I would've planned things very differently, right?

489
00:19:35.935 --> 00:19:37.855
I I, I had zero plan.

490
00:19:38.035 --> 00:19:41.855
And so that was like, you know, um, I I,

491
00:19:41.855 --> 00:19:42.935
yeah, there was no fort

492
00:19:42.935 --> 00:19:43.935
<v Speaker 2>On my head.</v>

493
00:19:43.935 --> 00:19:45.215
Used to a big helicopter guy. Was that not an option?

494
00:19:45.645 --> 00:19:49.735
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. It's less of an option. Less of an option. Um,</v>

495
00:19:49.735 --> 00:19:51.055
<v Speaker 2>Podcast money isn't great.</v>

496
00:19:51.915 --> 00:19:53.895
<v Speaker 1>No, no. I'm, I don't have desk money.</v>

497
00:19:53.895 --> 00:19:55.695
Nevermind chopper money.

498
00:19:56.115 --> 00:20:00.895
So, so the, uh, yes, I, I do think it's worth it.

499
00:20:00.935 --> 00:20:01.935
I think you just have to know what

500
00:20:01.935 --> 00:20:03.175
you're getting yourself into, right?

501
00:20:03.255 --> 00:20:05.415
I think that's part of it is like, when you're unprepared

502
00:20:05.635 --> 00:20:07.335
for what you're about to face, it's like

503
00:20:07.335 --> 00:20:08.775
that much more shocking.

504
00:20:09.195 --> 00:20:10.975
So if you know what you're getting yourself into, it's fine.

505
00:20:11.005 --> 00:20:12.095
Look, they all suck, man.

506
00:20:12.855 --> 00:20:15.815
'cause F1 has the, the beautiful  struggle

507
00:20:15.835 --> 00:20:17.455
of every race is sold out.

508
00:20:17.995 --> 00:20:20.815
And so, like, getting out of Austin is a pain in the ass.

509
00:20:20.835 --> 00:20:21.895
But it's still a great event.

510
00:20:22.515 --> 00:20:24.615
If, if you were doing like a one day trip

511
00:20:25.235 --> 00:20:27.575
and it was gonna take you an hour and a half to get in

512
00:20:27.575 --> 00:20:30.575
and four and a half hours to get out, probably not worth it.

513
00:20:30.715 --> 00:20:32.415
But if you're there every day for four days

514
00:20:32.415 --> 00:20:33.775
and you get to see a little bit of everything

515
00:20:34.075 --> 00:20:35.655
and it's just Sunday night, that sucks.

516
00:20:35.965 --> 00:20:37.535
Yeah, for sure. Um, I

517
00:20:37.535 --> 00:20:38.895
<v Speaker 2>Mean, I'll I'll I'll rephrase.</v>

518
00:20:39.675 --> 00:20:40.935
Is Becky coming next

519
00:20:40.935 --> 00:20:41.935
year?
<v Speaker 1>?</v>

520
00:20:45.515 --> 00:20:47.925
Um, no, but for very different reasons.

521
00:20:49.145 --> 00:20:51.685
, it was budgetary constraints to do that again.

522
00:20:52.705 --> 00:20:54.565
Um, but no, it was totally worth it.

523
00:20:54.565 --> 00:20:57.725
It was so great to see our friends. Kyoto was amazing.

524
00:20:58.005 --> 00:21:00.285
I don't think I, I think our last episode was

525
00:21:00.465 --> 00:21:03.125
before we went to Kyoto, um,

526
00:21:04.375 --> 00:21:06.965
which was just phenomenal.

527
00:21:07.005 --> 00:21:08.005
I mean, one of the greatest places

528
00:21:08.065 --> 00:21:09.885
to see all the cherry blossoms, which, you know,

529
00:21:09.885 --> 00:21:11.805
we talked a bunch about and is, is very well known.

530
00:21:12.305 --> 00:21:17.005
Um, saw the, the Bamboo forest in Aama, which was one

531
00:21:17.005 --> 00:21:19.525
of the most Instagrammable places I've ever been in my life.

532
00:21:19.585 --> 00:21:23.005
And unfortunately everybody there was trying

533
00:21:23.005 --> 00:21:24.365
to add to that collection.

534
00:21:24.985 --> 00:21:27.285
Um, yeah. But, uh,

535
00:21:27.465 --> 00:21:29.685
but a adorable little town and, and great area.

536
00:21:30.105 --> 00:21:32.565
And dude, we went to this one, um, temple.

537
00:21:34.465 --> 00:21:38.325
Um, and we went at night, it was after dinner.

538
00:21:38.665 --> 00:21:40.565
And this is a place where like, they light up,

539
00:21:40.565 --> 00:21:45.325
there's like this one massive like owing cherry blossom tree

540
00:21:45.355 --> 00:21:47.965
that gets lit up and it's in this kind of, it's again, it's,

541
00:21:48.035 --> 00:21:49.525
it's on this, these temple gardens,

542
00:21:49.525 --> 00:21:50.645
like the whole thing's just gorgeous,

543
00:21:51.105 --> 00:21:52.845
but it's open, like for the night,

544
00:21:53.385 --> 00:21:55.525
all these little vendors set up, it, it kind

545
00:21:55.525 --> 00:21:56.565
of looks like a state fair,

546
00:21:56.825 --> 00:22:01.005
but it's around cherry blossom trees in a temple like

547
00:22:01.635 --> 00:22:04.125
gardens rather than, you know, the parking lot

548
00:22:04.125 --> 00:22:06.125
of the horse race track in Indie.

549
00:22:06.665 --> 00:22:10.405
Um, and so we walked on there having this great time

550
00:22:11.065 --> 00:22:13.485
inside this temple that's all lit up beautifully at night

551
00:22:13.485 --> 00:22:15.325
and taking all these, you know, cool pictures, whatever.

552
00:22:16.065 --> 00:22:19.885
And this guy comes up to me and Becky

553
00:22:20.185 --> 00:22:21.685
and he goes, I'm sorry to interrupt.

554
00:22:21.685 --> 00:22:25.565
He goes, are you James Hinchcliffe ? And I kind of like .

555
00:22:27.625 --> 00:22:30.005
And I was like, I was like, yeah, yeah.

556
00:22:30.005 --> 00:22:31.285
Hey man, how's it going? He goes,

557
00:22:31.315 --> 00:22:35.005
yeah, oh, you're serious.

558
00:22:35.065 --> 00:22:38.005
You actually are. And I'm like, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, no,

559
00:22:38.285 --> 00:22:39.885
it's, I am, I really am.

560
00:22:40.065 --> 00:22:42.565
He thought I, he like, I almost thought he was kidding.

561
00:22:42.825 --> 00:22:44.085
And then he thought I was kidding.

562
00:22:44.585 --> 00:22:47.245
Anyway, his name's Sam, quick guy.

563
00:22:47.245 --> 00:22:49.925
He recognize you from, uh, F1 tv,

564
00:22:50.275 --> 00:22:51.805
<v Speaker 2>IndyCar, dancing with the Stars,</v>

565
00:22:52.425 --> 00:22:54.645
<v Speaker 1>All , all of the above.</v>

566
00:22:54.985 --> 00:22:57.525
So I think originally F1.

567
00:22:58.105 --> 00:22:59.965
And then he told me, he was like,

568
00:23:00.145 --> 00:23:02.085
you are the reason I started watching IndyCar.

569
00:23:02.345 --> 00:23:04.445
Oh, hell yeah. And I was like, that's amazing.

570
00:23:04.465 --> 00:23:06.165
That's so cool, man. Thank you for saying that.

571
00:23:06.165 --> 00:23:09.165
And thank you for watching. And so he's from Atlanta

572
00:23:09.945 --> 00:23:12.405
and he, you know, it had been a bucket list thing for him

573
00:23:12.405 --> 00:23:15.525
to come to see Suzuka and, and, and do the F1 race.

574
00:23:15.545 --> 00:23:16.845
So he was doing that. Like he,

575
00:23:16.865 --> 00:23:18.365
we were actually on very similar programs.

576
00:23:18.365 --> 00:23:20.045
He'd come a week early and was touring around

577
00:23:20.045 --> 00:23:21.365
and was going to the race and then

578
00:23:21.365 --> 00:23:22.485
he was staying for a little bit more.

579
00:23:23.065 --> 00:23:24.925
But, uh, so I said, I was like,

580
00:23:24.925 --> 00:23:26.085
have you been to an IndyCar race yet?

581
00:23:26.085 --> 00:23:27.245
And he goes, no, not yet.

582
00:23:27.625 --> 00:23:30.045
And I was like, well, look man, I'm like, Arbor's coming up.

583
00:23:30.065 --> 00:23:32.485
You're from Atlanta. It's a two hour drive if you ever,

584
00:23:32.485 --> 00:23:34.165
you know, if you got the time,

585
00:23:34.195 --> 00:23:35.245
it's definitely worth checking out.

586
00:23:35.245 --> 00:23:36.645
It's a great spot. And the museum

587
00:23:36.645 --> 00:23:38.645
and all that stuff, whatever I said, yeah, it's cool.

588
00:23:38.645 --> 00:23:39.885
I'll, I'll look into that man. Thanks. Cool.

589
00:23:39.885 --> 00:23:41.005
So we kind of said our goodbyes,

590
00:23:41.005 --> 00:23:42.045
chat it for a bit and went off.

591
00:23:43.165 --> 00:23:44.485
I get an Instagram message from

592
00:23:44.505 --> 00:23:45.540
Sam a couple, couple days later.

593
00:23:45.540 --> 00:23:46.885
He goes, all right, you sold me.

594
00:23:46.885 --> 00:23:48.565
I just booked my tickets for Barbara. Hell

595
00:23:48.565 --> 00:23:49.365
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right.</v>

596
00:23:49.465 --> 00:23:51.685
<v Speaker 1>Sam . So we got Sam's coming out,</v>

597
00:23:51.975 --> 00:23:53.485
we're gonna show Sam a good time.

598
00:23:54.265 --> 00:23:55.765
And uh, and,

599
00:23:55.865 --> 00:23:57.805
and then on that note, also, Brian, I,

600
00:23:57.845 --> 00:23:59.725
I dunno if I told you guys this, the Brian, the, the,

601
00:23:59.785 --> 00:24:01.085
the nicest human being in the world.

602
00:24:01.395 --> 00:24:04.125
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The one who gave the seat up in first class. Yeah.</v>

603
00:24:04.275 --> 00:24:05.605
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be in, in Long Beach.</v>

604
00:24:05.785 --> 00:24:07.725
So Brian and his buddy are getting the

605
00:24:07.765 --> 00:24:09.005
VIP treatment in Long Beach.

606
00:24:09.545 --> 00:24:11.605
Sam, we're gonna show him a good time in Atlanta

607
00:24:11.865 --> 00:24:14.045
in, uh, sorry, in Barber. It's gonna be great.

608
00:24:14.405 --> 00:24:16.685
<v Speaker 2>I won't be in Barber 'cause that's the day of my,</v>

609
00:24:16.705 --> 00:24:17.925
or that's the day

610
00:24:17.925 --> 00:24:21.005
after my, my half marathon in Indie the mini marathon.

611
00:24:21.005 --> 00:24:23.205
Mm-hmm . Uh, but I will, I'll go ahead and,

612
00:24:23.225 --> 00:24:25.565
and buy, uh, Brian a drink in Long Beach.

613
00:24:25.865 --> 00:24:28.045
But we should, you know what? Let's have Sam on,

614
00:24:28.175 --> 00:24:29.925
let's have Sam be our Tuesday guest.

615
00:24:30.165 --> 00:24:31.845
'cause I want to hear after he does,

616
00:24:32.295 --> 00:24:34.125
after he does Barbara, how, what,

617
00:24:34.235 --> 00:24:35.565
what he thought of both of 'em. I love

618
00:24:35.565 --> 00:24:36.565
<v Speaker 1>That.</v>

619
00:24:36.565 --> 00:24:37.885
I love that. We will do that. We will do that.

620
00:24:38.055 --> 00:24:41.765
We'll get Sam on. Um, in the meantime, we'll let you go

621
00:24:42.195 --> 00:24:43.925
because we've kept you here long enough.

622
00:24:44.345 --> 00:24:46.765
But, um, long Beach this weekend, we got,

623
00:24:46.765 --> 00:24:48.365
we're gonna preview that on Thursday.

624
00:24:48.455 --> 00:24:51.685
We're gonna review the F1 race and some of the shenanigans.

625
00:24:51.905 --> 00:24:54.725
And then I'll tell you my frustrated traveler story.

626
00:24:55.225 --> 00:24:56.605
and worse than getting

627
00:24:56.605 --> 00:24:57.645
outta the track. Getting outta the track.

628
00:24:57.785 --> 00:24:59.285
<v Speaker 2>Oh,</v>
<v Speaker 1>Yes and no.</v>

629
00:24:59.595 --> 00:25:01.965
<v Speaker 2>Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Philosophically worse.</v>

630
00:25:02.505 --> 00:25:04.165
<v Speaker 2>Got it. Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Practicality was fine,</v>

631
00:25:04.165 --> 00:25:05.765
but I'll just, you'll, you'll see, you'll see.

632
00:25:05.765 --> 00:25:07.245
You gotta tune in. Tune in on Thursday

633
00:25:07.665 --> 00:25:09.605
and uh, we'll chat to you then.

634
00:25:11.035 --> 00:25:12.925
This has been off track with Hinch and Rossi.

635
00:25:13.065 --> 00:25:16.165
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636
00:25:16.625 --> 00:25:17.805
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