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This is, is off
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We really need lighter mic stance. 'cause dang.
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Hold on. Put it, put it back down on the table.
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Put it over his head. Just put it as close to you. No, no.
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Like . Put it on the edge
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of the table. Just try talking.
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Hello.
That's fine. Right?
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That's good. That's good. Yeah.
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You can sit upright with an ab workout for
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You.
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No, that no. Is that bad? He will not.
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Well, he would not like that. For
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People listening, we're joined
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by a very special guest attached to
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Alex needs a little, he needs exactly Alex Rossi's chest
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17 degrees of reclining .
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Oh. So he's as picky as his dad.
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Oh my God. It's incredible.
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Now there was, there was a period of time where,
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not a period of time, so he gets to the eight week mark
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and there's, they're like starting to show signs of like,
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tracking with their eyes and you should start
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to see some amount of smiling and this sort of thing.
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And like, obviously when you get to like eight weeks,
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you're like, all right, today's the day.
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And he wasn't doing it. And I was just thinking in my head,
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man, did I pass that down to him too?
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I think that would be, that'd be
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unfortunate.
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I'm not gonna do what you expect me to do. I'm gonna .
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Yeah, .
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No,
Yeah. I am gonna break all the rules.
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B I'm just not gonna pay attention
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to anything you want me to pay attention to.
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Mm. Um, so, dude, this is, it's awesome.
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Little dude's just there. How's it being a dad?
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I feel like we don't talk enough about the fact
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that you're a dad now.
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Well,
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I don't know that I really know that yet because
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That's
True.
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Um, our, our schedule's pretty intense, so, um, I know
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what it's like to be a dad.
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Uh, no, I know what it's like to be a mom support animal.
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Right. . Um, but you know,
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it's unfortunately with the way it all works out,
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like I think the most consecutive days that I spent
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with him had been during the month of May,
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which obviously is not the most conducive time to be,
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you know, adding, uh,
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That's such a good point.
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Yeah. And then after that it's been, you know, home
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for three or four days and then you've got Detroit
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and Road America, and obviously the stretch we're on.
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And then in between that you've got days in Charlotte
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and the sim or you've got, you know,
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media obligations or whatever.
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So it's, it's been hit
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and miss from a, from a, getting into a rhythm standpoint.
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Um, but I will say like, all the days
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that I have had are awesome.
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So it's, I still feel as excited about it
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as I did on May 7th when he was born.
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Are, are you at that point already where it's like
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all the days away suck
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and like in the sense that like you just,
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you kind of wish you were back.
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Not that you're like not happy to do your job or whatever,
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but are you like that much more anxious to get home
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and are you like that much more bummed when you have
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to leave on a Thursday kind of thing
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or fly to Charlotte on a Tuesday?
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Um, I think the,
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You don't have to think about it like that.
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Yeah. I mean, I think the days that you're coming home,
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you're more excited than maybe you would've been.
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Um, just to see like his level
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of progression, whether that's right.
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Progression from a personality standpoint, which not really.
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It's more progression from a how is he growing? Like what
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Physical,
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What does this <inaudible> look like now?
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Like what, what is he, like how long are his naps?
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Like all these things
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and metrics that are like important to like, the development
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of what does his look like? This? Well, I mean, it's,
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I mean, that's a pretty important thing. Yeah.
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It's, it's a pretty important thing. Like, yeah.
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So I, because he's not, he's still kind of a potato.
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Like I don't have that sadness when I leave yet.
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'cause it's not like he knows I'm leaving. Right.
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Um, I think that'll come later on once they realize that,
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oh, why aren't you taking me with me sort
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of situation. Yeah,
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They started doing like what the dogs do
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and sit on your suitcase. Mm-hmm . Yeah.
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Yeah. And you're like, yeah. Then the guilt comes
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Right.
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And then eventually they're just like, nah, you can go.
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Right, right.
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. So they're like, dad have fun interviewing Creed.
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I'm gonna go watch the weenie 500 . Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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Uh, is he sleeping well?
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Yeah. No, he
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Not like at the minute.
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I can see he's pretty good at right now, but I can,
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No, he's fast at right now.
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No, he, um, he's down to kind
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of two wake events a night,
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which I think is pretty good for two month old .
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Will you say it like that?
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It sounds like he's wearing a whoop .
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You had two wake events last night.
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I mean, he does wear some kind
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of whoop device on his ankle, so. Yeah.
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Does he really?
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It's more to That's cool. Alert you if he stops breathing.
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Right. Not to track like heart rate variability.
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I'm new to kids. That's bad.
It's frowned upon. I love
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It. You
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Like, you generally like the breathing that's uh,
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Soothing.
When, when you build the kid, it's one
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of the boxes, like at the top it
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Yeah. Like up there.
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You're like, yeah, definitely that one.
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Maybe even though
It's like $35,000 extra ,
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you still, you
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Still take that option. You have to have
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Like Right, right.
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It's like buying a car where breaks get an
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extra, but you kind of have
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To Sure.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um, so yeah, I mean, if he goes like, last night we went
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to bed at nine ish
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and he woke up at, when he wake up, he woke up at one
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and 5, 1 30 and five.
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Is this a bed? Um, so yeah, I mean it's,
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it's definitely manageable.
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Um, you don't, I mean, I'm looking forward to the go
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to bed at nine and wake up at nine
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program. Right. We're a little
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Now, you know, when I get there.
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you, you've been there for like 30 years.
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No, I haven't. . I bet she goes to bed on nine,
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but she still gets up at like six 30.
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Oh no, I meant you personally.
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Oh yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
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Um, . So like, is it like what a lot of parents say
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where when you go away to races,
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the best part about going away is having a bed
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and not having to wake up and sleep. Like a
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absolute
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Incredible. So, um, Thursday
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before mid Ohio, I slept 11 and a half hours like I was in,
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because the other thing is like, we can't,
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he's still sleeping in our bedroom
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because again, the whole, he's up every four hours
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and the breathing thing.
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Breathing thing. Yeah.
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Um, so we can't have our AC set
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to 61 degrees anymore, so that's tough. Oh
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My God. That's right.
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Right. So I mean, 68 is kind of the lowest, I mean,
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it's 68 to 72, so I pin it at 67
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'cause like, you know, we like
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to push limits in this house, put in a blanket .
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Right. Um, well no, you can't do blankets either,
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because I'm joking hazard.
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Um, I did end up buying because of this predicament.
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A heat lamp from like a fast food joint or something?
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No. Have you seen, I'm sure you've seen all the ads
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and like the endorsements for eight sleep.
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No,
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Well, it's essentially, imagine James a
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IndyCar cool suit compressor,
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but instead of for your body, for your bed
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and instead of not working it
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works. ,
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That last part seems important.
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Got it. Got it. Right. Yeah.
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Right. Understood. So it's essentially,
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it's essentially a fitted sheet that's got like
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water coils in it. Yes.
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I have heard of
This. These things
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and then adjusts your, it adjusts the bed's temperature
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to like whatever your sleep cycle you're in.
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Or you can just set it to like tundra, which is
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what I did last night.
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Um, and it was awesome because my room was at 70 degrees,
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but my bed was probably like 58. Yeah.
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So that
Was pretty, pretty awesome.
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But no, and to answer your question, um, going to the bus,
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sleeping in a dark room, quiet room, cold room.
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Yeah. Slept for almost 12 hours.
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And this is, this is like the thing, this is
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where I feel like the moms really
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get the short end of the stick.
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Right. Because it's not like you could be like, oh,
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I'll just take 'em for a night, honey.
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And you go check yourself into the, you know,
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to the four seasons for a night and just sleep for 12 hours.
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That's not really a thing she can do at this point.
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No. 'cause like you get that freedom as, as much
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as breathing is important, apparently sore boobs.
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Yeah. The feeding part is also eating is like, oh lord.
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Really? I,
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I've, I've definitely lived by that Yes.
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Motto. Yeah.
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Um, fried. Hey Ben.
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Hey buddy. What's happening?
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There he is. There he is. Uh, all right.
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Well, um, ukuleles are dumb.
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I mean, we knew that.
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Was there ever a question about that?
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Unicycles are also dumb.
Yeah. Yeah.
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And unitards, if we're being honest,
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I think they have a purpose.
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I don't agree with them.
Hmm. I had
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Had to wear a lot when I rode in high school.
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Oh,
Oh, oh. Are there picks
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Now?
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I like them less. Do you? Is that what you wanna see?
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Is that something We called it a uni
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suit. We called it a uni
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Suit.
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Wouldn't I wouldn't hate whatever.
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Have to sleep at night for
Like his birthday.
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Oh sure. Yeah.
I'm sure I could find some. Don't
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Worry.
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We'll, we'll talk to Joan. We'll get some,
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we'll get some real winners. What's
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The difference
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between unitard?
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What's a weird word to spell
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And leotard?
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We're asking the big questions here.
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Is the length of the legs a leotard hard?
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Is it kind of like only kind of like, goes to the way,
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like covers up like a swimsuit kind of bottom?
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Yeah. Where unitard goes all the way down.
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Oh, then that's not what I was to,
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because mine was, we called ours uni suits.
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No. So you wore
Like short sleeve version.
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Uh, no sleeves goes down to your thigh.
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The legs went all the way down.
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No, it just went down to your thigh.
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Tard. So it's more like a unitard.
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'cause it doesn't have like the i
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The pictures.
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It's more like, it's more like a, uh, what are they called?
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I should really know this. Um,
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It's like what you wear for wrestling,
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Like the bibs that you wear cycling.
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Yes. Yeah. Or like tri. Yeah, like triathlons.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's what he was wearing.
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So it's like an athletic unitard.
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Hmm. Or
Athletically. Aard. Yeah.
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Oh my goodness gracious.
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I can definitely tell that's you by the hair.
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The
Dude. You,
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When we, I don't know if we told this part of the story.
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We were in England when we were meeting up.
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We were like in a crowded, touristy area
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outside the London eye.
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And I called him and asked him where he was
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and I was like looking up over this massive crowd of people
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and I was like, nevermind, I can see you.
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And it was just his hair. Yeah, I could see his hair.
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I'm six two with like pretty noticeable hair. Yeah.
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guys stick out in crowds.
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You're honestly probably six five with the
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hair
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The hair adds a couple inches.
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That is all un undoubtedly true. Look,
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I'll take inches where I can get 'em.
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But there was a race this weekend.
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Uh, there was,
Try to talk about it.
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There was a couple, but we'll talk
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about the IndyCar one first.
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Alex, why don't we as usual start with your weekend?
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How did it go in mid Ohio?
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MidOhio, uh, Schmidt, Ohio.
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Well first of all that track, we really,
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we really gotta get split groups going.
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Like it's just in practice. In practice. Yeah.
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It's so ridiculous.
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I didn't, I didn't do a lap in practice one, like I saw
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turn five through eight once.
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And that was in the split group on reds. Yeah.
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I didn't do it once on blacks.
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And so it's just, it's, it's really difficult to have
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any kind of understanding of Where you're at
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or your balance or, or anything going into Saturday.
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Um, just because with 27 cars
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and a 60 whatever it is, five second lap, um,
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while it's not the shortest track we go to, it's, it's,
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it's up there and the way the layout is
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it just the accordion effect of guys getting gaps,
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which there, there's nothing wrong with it.
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I'm not criticizing that you're supposed to do that.
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Um, it's just not, it's just not possible.
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So it was brought up in the driver's meeting, um,
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that split groups for kind
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of all practices in 2026 would be a thing.
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Um, and we would set qualifying order based on
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qualifying from the previous event,
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which I thought was a really good idea
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because then it's not championship order.
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So it's not always the same groups. Yes. James,
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What do you, what do you mean
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qualifying from the previous?
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What what do you mean qualifying order
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Meaning?
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Oh, sorry. Qualifying groups.
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So group one and group two would be based on
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qualifying from the previous event.
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'cause right now it's based on practice two classification.
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Right. And so they didn't have a solution.
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They were, that was always the thing as
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to why practice two couldn't be a split session is
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because then the people in the second group would have an
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advantage and they would then
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that advantage would probably transfer into qualifying
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because they would be the quicker lap times.
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Right. But if you do it based on qualifying at the previous
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event, it's gonna be enough
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of a shakeup from weekend to weekend.
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You're not always gonna be pinned in the same group.
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Whereas if it was championship order,
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it's a very real possibility.
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Most of the year you're gonna be kind
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of in a similar situation.
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So anyways. Yeah, that makes sense.
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Um, I think that's a good idea. That's not obviously coming
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this year, but it's on their radar
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there being IndyCar's radar.
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So that's, that's a good thing.
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Um, so before,
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before I get into, well no, we can, we can just finish mine.
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Um, right. Yes.
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Sorry. Why can't they do it this year?
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Oh, that's not how we do things anyways.
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Um, so going into
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Objectively disagree,
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we've done several things just switching
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Middle.
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That's actually, that's a really good point.
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Uh, I don't know.
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They've been have an opinion on this.
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Like if everyone, if it's unanimously agreed
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that like when we go to Toronto to not have to like
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That's a good point.
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Maybe I'll bring that up this weekend. Weekend. We like,
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We're our own boss.
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Like we can kind of do whatever we want
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If everyone agrees.
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No, you're right. We do. I mean, we do things on
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a whim at all times. You're completely right,
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Like pretty regularly, so Yeah.
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Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, usually not do the next week
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for this conclusion on that.
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Usually not things that make sense though.
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Right, right, right, right,
Right, right, right.
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Those are less whimsical.
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Nothing that we've all talked about and agreed on .
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That's not true. That's not fair.
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Um, no, that's, that's the point.
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We, we should, we should, uh, I'm just
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Getting an email now that there's gonna be a new
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tire compound for this weekend.
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Oh, I mean, yeah. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. There is.
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Oh, there is. I forgot. There is.
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There is. I was like, I
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wouldn't be surprised if there's an email.
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Oh, it's okay buddy. I know.
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It's, it's not funny to make Tim fun.
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Tim's voice is just so grading. I know.
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Um,
Don't, don't try to poison Ben against me.
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So practice two, I'm gonna
Be the cool uncle.
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Practice two. We, uh, we're pretty good.
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Um, I didn't, I didn't really do a good job,
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but, you know, we felt, we felt confident with the cars
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that we had that showed in qualifying.
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Um, it was the first time in a very long time
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that ECR got both cars into the top 12.
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Um, which was good. Uh, we guys
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Made a pretty, because you guys found something in Road
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America in warmup.
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Yes. Like from a Sunday. That was good.
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And so was that carried over and that worked
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Here as well?
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It was, while, while it didn't look promising in practice,
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like we were, we were really happy with kind of the feel
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of the car and, um, all of the problems
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that we had had on Friday and Saturday
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and Road America were not there anymore.
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So yes, a lot of what we learned in on Sunday
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and Road America did transfer and,
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and that was super exciting.
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So qualifying, we, there was a decision that was made on,
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on the 20 car that was a, a pretty big error.
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We tried to, basically with all
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of the gapping issues and everything that was going on,
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we thought that if we kind of do our own program
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and leave pit lane
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and push, Do our prep lap kind of pushing,
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we could just fuel it for one time lap instead of doing out
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prep, push push.
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So most cards were doing their fastest lap on the second
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or third, um, time lap.
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Time lap on our, on reds.
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Usually it was kind of the third time lap though.
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So we tried to do it on the second.
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Um, and for whatever reason, even though we left kind
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of on our own, we couldn't get a gap.
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There was cars in front of us going slow.
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There was cars behind me coming quickly.
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I also didn't have a radio for all of qualifying.
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Um, so that made some things difficult.
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So anyways, in the fast 12, we were one lap short on
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what should have been the optimum thing to do.
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Right. And we didn't have any front tire temp in for the lap
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that we were gonna try and do it.
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So anyways, we ended up 12.
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Honestly, in a perfect session,
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we probably maybe could have been seventh or eighth.
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We weren't getting into the fast six.
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I don't think so all in all a very
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good performance for the team.
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Again, first time in a long time,
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both cars in the fast 12 Christian was 10th, I was 12.
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Um, Christian unfortunately had a grid penalty
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because of an engine failure in Detroit.
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Um, so he started 16th
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and going into warmup, even though IndyCar
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extended this race by 10 laps to get rid
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of a two stop option, we felt
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that a two stop was still possible.
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Um, because of the fact that
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in 2024, the two stop was the way to go.
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It was super easy and it was an all green race,
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albeit the race was a little bit delayed by two laps
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because Dixon had his hybrid failure mm-hmm .
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But from there it was an all green race
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and it was a pretty easy two stop.
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So we thought this will transition pretty
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quickly to a two stop.
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If there's kind of any yellow, any yellow,
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but like seven laps of yellow would make this kind of the,
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the golden the golden two stop opportunity.
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Um, sure enough, there was a yellow at the start
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and we were like, oh, this is, this is gonna be a two stop.
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Like this is pretty, pretty straightforward, um,
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the way this is gonna go.
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And We couldn't hit the mileage.
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Um, we couldn't hit the mileage and go quick enough.
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Like I, I started that stint trying to,
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to hit the number that we needed.
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I got passed by three cars. I was going backwards.
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I was like, this is not, there's a lot of guys pushing.
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Um, I'm gonna lose more spots if
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I continue to hit this number.
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Like we can't, we can't, we can't get there right now.
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Um, so we ended up bailing on
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the two stop with the three.
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It just sucks because you've already lost a couple,
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you lost some track position
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and it's, I mean, yeah, I lost three spots, like whatever.
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Um, and so then we, we kind of carry on to that first stint
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because we had saved quite a chunk in the beginning.
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Um, which was a detriment ended up actually working out
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for us pretty well, uh, with the overcut side of things.
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So we were able to, to have pretty good pace at the end
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of the stent and went like six,
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seven laps longer than kind of the cars that we were racing.
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Um, both Christian and I did.
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And, uh, we, we gained quite a few spots in that exchange.
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Um, I had a slow fueling, um, stop
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with an issue that we had on the fuel rig.
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Christian had an even bigger issue on the fuel rig in the
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sense that they plugged in and then no fuel went in the car
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and he left and then he ran out of fuel,
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which is Oh, that's why he ran out.
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Really upsetting. Yeah. Like it's, yeah.
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So that's a disappointing situation.
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Um, because I think he was, you know,
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I mean ultimately the way the day ended up, we weren't
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race winning cars, but, you know,
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I think he obviously would've been better than 25th.
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So that sucked.
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And then his yellow is kind of when things started
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to split a little bit.
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And what ultimately happened was there was some
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Hondas that were on, uh, a two stop program, um, that
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that yellow really helped.
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And then there were some other cars
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that took Christians yellow, um, which kind
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of put them on like a two and a half stop program.
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Right. And we, we didn't,
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and so we were kind of on like a true three stop
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with like no advantage on anyone with anything.
508
00:21:42.865 --> 00:21:46.445
Um, and just the, that's the way the kind of race worked out
509
00:21:46.445 --> 00:21:49.205
with that specific situation.
510
00:21:49.305 --> 00:21:51.045
So ultimately we thought Christian
511
00:21:51.045 --> 00:21:52.285
jail was gonna be good for us.
512
00:21:52.525 --> 00:21:57.405
'cause we had stopped like, well, three, four laps
513
00:21:57.405 --> 00:21:58.605
before that mm-hmm .
514
00:21:58.685 --> 00:22:02.245
Um, and there had been cars that had been out there for like
515
00:22:03.745 --> 00:22:05.205
12 to 14 labs.
516
00:22:05.265 --> 00:22:07.045
So I was gonna get all that track position,
517
00:22:07.985 --> 00:22:11.205
but unfortunately that gave them a fuel advantage
518
00:22:11.265 --> 00:22:13.805
to get home on one more stop.
519
00:22:14.225 --> 00:22:16.165
And I still had to get home on two more stops.
520
00:22:16.285 --> 00:22:17.285
'cause I was a few lap short
521
00:22:17.625 --> 00:22:20.725
and I couldn't hit the number to make up that, uh,
522
00:22:20.855 --> 00:22:22.045
three, four lap difference.
523
00:22:22.825 --> 00:22:25.485
So we were kind of just caught between like the two
524
00:22:25.485 --> 00:22:26.885
and the three, um, yeah.
525
00:22:27.185 --> 00:22:31.405
And ended up 15th, like the car was, was good.
526
00:22:31.665 --> 00:22:33.805
Um, the stops aside from the small issue
527
00:22:33.805 --> 00:22:34.845
we had on the first one was good.
528
00:22:36.385 --> 00:22:37.725
We couldn't get the mileage.
529
00:22:38.285 --> 00:22:40.885
I think, well not, I think the only cars
530
00:22:40.885 --> 00:22:42.485
that could get the mileage were Honda cars.
531
00:22:43.185 --> 00:22:46.325
Um, Patto did a really good job with his recovery,
532
00:22:46.385 --> 00:22:47.885
but he was kind of on that two
533
00:22:47.885 --> 00:22:50.285
and a half stop program where he took Christian yellow
534
00:22:50.385 --> 00:22:51.605
and then got home on one more.
535
00:22:52.345 --> 00:22:54.245
Um, so yeah, we just, were not,
536
00:22:54.425 --> 00:22:56.725
we weren't on the really on the right side of it,
537
00:22:56.945 --> 00:22:58.965
but the encouraging thing is
538
00:22:58.965 --> 00:23:00.765
that the cars were significantly better
539
00:23:00.765 --> 00:23:01.805
than they were in Road America.
540
00:23:01.905 --> 00:23:03.885
And what we learned there did translate,
541
00:23:03.895 --> 00:23:06.645
which is always a huge concern, um, that like, just
542
00:23:06.645 --> 00:23:08.205
because something is good somewhere doesn't
543
00:23:08.205 --> 00:23:09.245
mean it'll apply somewhere else.
544
00:23:09.385 --> 00:23:10.885
So Yeah. Positives leaving there.
545
00:23:11.355 --> 00:23:12.525
Yeah. I mean, middle Ohio is a bit
546
00:23:12.525 --> 00:23:13.565
of a unique one too, right.
547
00:23:13.665 --> 00:23:15.485
So it's, it's not uncommon
548
00:23:15.555 --> 00:23:18.205
that like a road course baseline car is not
549
00:23:18.205 --> 00:23:19.405
exactly what you need at that place.
550
00:23:19.585 --> 00:23:22.725
So Yeah. It's good that whatever you had worked. Yeah.
551
00:23:22.745 --> 00:23:23.725
So yeah, one of those days
552
00:23:27.555 --> 00:23:29.765
kind of got caught between a, a weird yellow
553
00:23:29.785 --> 00:23:33.915
and a bad fuel number on annoying fuel number.
554
00:23:34.345 --> 00:23:36.755
Yeah. But like, it's, it's a little,
555
00:23:36.905 --> 00:23:38.475
it's a little concerning.
556
00:23:39.515 --> 00:23:42.975
I mean this is, I I I haven't felt
557
00:23:43.775 --> 00:23:47.885
a beat down like this honestly since Arrow Kit days when I
558
00:23:47.885 --> 00:23:50.685
was in a Honda Arrow kit versus a Chevy Arrow kit.
559
00:23:50.685 --> 00:23:52.845
And that was an engine that was just arrow kit.
560
00:23:53.435 --> 00:23:54.645
Like, it, it feels
561
00:23:54.945 --> 00:23:55.945
Pretty tough right now.
562
00:23:55.945 --> 00:23:58.125
A lot of people were still also winning that.
563
00:23:58.205 --> 00:23:59.285
I mean, Hondas were still winning.
564
00:23:59.315 --> 00:24:00.685
They were still pulling out wins.
565
00:24:00.685 --> 00:24:02.485
They shouldn't have been winning for sure.
566
00:24:02.555 --> 00:24:04.725
Like mid Ohio, like Road America. Mm-hmm .
567
00:24:04.805 --> 00:24:07.925
Um, dude, it's, it's unreal.
568
00:24:08.035 --> 00:24:10.085
Like, I don't know if the shining light is
569
00:24:10.105 --> 00:24:11.325
he made a mistake finally.
570
00:24:12.365 --> 00:24:13.365
Mm.
571
00:24:14.775 --> 00:24:17.745
Kind of. No. I mean, yeah, not kind of.
572
00:24:17.745 --> 00:24:21.905
He did, he did, but I mean it, he threw it away.
573
00:24:22.095 --> 00:24:24.785
Like he was gonna win that pretty handily
574
00:24:25.205 --> 00:24:26.205
Pretty easily.
575
00:24:26.445 --> 00:24:31.085
And so again, he was gonna win it from Pole. Like this is .
576
00:24:33.965 --> 00:24:37.565
I I've run at it like I don't, uh, in 1964
577
00:24:37.625 --> 00:24:39.045
or something I think was the last, I mean,
578
00:24:39.045 --> 00:24:42.365
had he didn't win, so, but like had he won
579
00:24:42.365 --> 00:24:45.125
that race would've been like 1964 was the last time somebody
580
00:24:45.125 --> 00:24:47.365
won seven in the first 10 or something like that.
581
00:24:47.365 --> 00:24:49.205
Like, I forget this dad, but it was something insane.
582
00:24:49.205 --> 00:24:50.845
And it was back when they were running, you know,
583
00:24:50.875 --> 00:24:52.485
quarter mile dirt tracks and,
584
00:24:52.585 --> 00:24:54.285
and stuff with like foy and whatever.
585
00:24:54.665 --> 00:24:56.965
But dude, his, his
586
00:24:58.805 --> 00:25:02.735
pace on on the hards is tough to like, it's tough
587
00:25:02.735 --> 00:25:04.335
to understand on the Reds.
588
00:25:04.435 --> 00:25:05.655
He is perfectly human.
589
00:25:06.715 --> 00:25:08.095
We saw that Road America,
590
00:25:08.315 --> 00:25:10.175
we saw it here, we've seen in other places.
591
00:25:10.795 --> 00:25:12.975
But for some reason when you throw on the hards,
592
00:25:13.045 --> 00:25:16.215
that guy can just rail off lap time, hit a number,
593
00:25:17.775 --> 00:25:20.065
take care of the, make 'em last, whatever.
594
00:25:20.685 --> 00:25:23.185
And it's, it's, it's nothing anyone else is able to do.
595
00:25:24.115 --> 00:25:25.315
I mean, they're his preferred tire,
596
00:25:25.385 --> 00:25:26.635
even though they're Yes.
597
00:25:26.635 --> 00:25:28.195
Borderline is second slower. Yeah.
598
00:25:28.225 --> 00:25:31.195
Correct. They're often not the preferred tire.
599
00:25:32.865 --> 00:25:36.115
They're sometimes his preferred tire.
600
00:25:36.775 --> 00:25:40.755
Um, Alex, why don't you talk about
601
00:25:42.095 --> 00:25:46.955
the start while I go
602
00:25:47.065 --> 00:25:48.435
take care of this situation.
603
00:25:49.895 --> 00:25:52.475
Oh, take care of the situation Is his food
604
00:25:53.865 --> 00:25:55.675
Guys, we're going old school today.
605
00:25:56.735 --> 00:25:59.515
Is it Panera
Or Win?
606
00:26:00.105 --> 00:26:02.595
This is not for you Sally. Get outta here.
607
00:26:03.375 --> 00:26:06.635
Get your beautiful nose here. So
608
00:26:06.845 --> 00:26:08.235
Let's talk about the start James.
609
00:26:08.575 --> 00:26:12.355
The start from, from my, from my side was pretty uneventful,
610
00:26:12.895 --> 00:26:15.875
but there was obviously a first corner incident.
611
00:26:16.735 --> 00:26:18.875
Uh, I have seen the replay.
612
00:26:19.695 --> 00:26:22.515
Um, I you talking about with Joseph, going off with Joseph,
613
00:26:22.745 --> 00:26:27.275
with Joseph, I find it hard to believe that
614
00:26:27.275 --> 00:26:29.515
that was driver error, but maybe it was.
615
00:26:30.575 --> 00:26:34.735
Um, because like if something like that was gonna happen
616
00:26:34.955 --> 00:26:39.095
and it'd be a car failure, would it not have happened at any
617
00:26:39.095 --> 00:26:40.695
of the points where he was warming breaks?
618
00:26:42.385 --> 00:26:43.765
Maybe not. I don't know.
619
00:26:43.865 --> 00:26:46.205
It just, it was a weird, it was a weird one. What, what?
620
00:26:46.265 --> 00:26:47.325
It was very weird. Did did,
621
00:26:47.425 --> 00:26:48.885
did he talk to you guys afterwards?
622
00:26:49.745 --> 00:26:51.765
So he did. We would have some. He did. Oh, okay.
623
00:26:52.465 --> 00:26:54.725
Um, he hadn't spoken to the team.
624
00:26:54.905 --> 00:26:56.205
You know, he came outta medical
625
00:26:56.425 --> 00:26:57.965
so he didn't really have any information.
626
00:26:59.295 --> 00:27:02.115
Uh, that is, you know, shined any light on it.
627
00:27:02.175 --> 00:27:03.315
But I'm with you man.
628
00:27:03.315 --> 00:27:05.795
Like when I saw the first replay from the, you know,
629
00:27:05.795 --> 00:27:08.315
outside camera, I'm like, oh, something broke.
630
00:27:08.345 --> 00:27:11.435
Like that was weird. And then you watch the onboard
631
00:27:11.575 --> 00:27:13.695
and it was when you hit the brake,
632
00:27:14.155 --> 00:27:15.975
it was immediate two wheel lockup
633
00:27:16.595 --> 00:27:19.055
and two wheel, two wheel rear lockup.
634
00:27:19.835 --> 00:27:22.605
And like it didn't, you know what it's like man,
635
00:27:22.885 --> 00:27:25.005
normally when you get rear lockup you kind of like do this
636
00:27:25.065 --> 00:27:26.285
and you're like, it sucks,
637
00:27:26.305 --> 00:27:28.525
but you're kind of just chasing it into the corner
638
00:27:28.625 --> 00:27:29.885
or into the back of somebody.
639
00:27:30.925 --> 00:27:33.925
I can't remember the last time I saw someone have rear lock
640
00:27:33.925 --> 00:27:36.525
that just hooked them and sent 'em into the wall.
641
00:27:38.035 --> 00:27:41.085
It's not typical. So
642
00:27:42.075 --> 00:27:44.085
Because you generally don't want to hit the wall,
643
00:27:44.625 --> 00:27:46.005
is my understanding, it's,
644
00:27:46.195 --> 00:27:48.805
It's less ideal, uh,
Suboptimal if
645
00:27:48.805 --> 00:27:50.525
You will first lap, if you'll got
646
00:27:50.525 --> 00:27:51.525
It second laps.
647
00:27:51.525 --> 00:27:52.525
Okay. Um,
648
00:27:53.015 --> 00:27:54.015
More more preferable.
649
00:27:54.105 --> 00:27:55.385
'cause at least you got one lap of data out
650
00:27:55.385 --> 00:27:56.545
of the whole got, you know, got it.
651
00:27:56.735 --> 00:28:01.125
Lost day. But no, it's, he, so they drive through a bunch
652
00:28:01.125 --> 00:28:03.805
of, um, oil dry right
653
00:28:03.805 --> 00:28:06.765
before that point from the, I assume the
654
00:28:07.605 --> 00:28:09.765
unbelievable accident that happened in Indy next.
655
00:28:10.435 --> 00:28:11.965
That was insane.
656
00:28:12.505 --> 00:28:14.365
Uh, luckily both guys got out of that,
657
00:28:14.425 --> 00:28:16.805
but I'm not sure if that played a part in it.
658
00:28:16.805 --> 00:28:17.805
But yeah, he hit the brakes and
659
00:28:17.805 --> 00:28:18.925
it's like, it was like pulling the knee brake.
660
00:28:18.945 --> 00:28:20.725
So I don't know, I don't know if it was just drive rare.
661
00:28:20.725 --> 00:28:22.045
It seems like a bit of a weird one.
662
00:28:22.985 --> 00:28:24.885
I'm inclined to think there's slightly more to the story,
663
00:28:24.985 --> 00:28:29.845
but whatever it is it , I can't believe, you know,
664
00:28:29.845 --> 00:28:31.005
we talk about the broadcast a lot
665
00:28:31.025 --> 00:28:32.925
and I, I feel bad about how much we're talking about it,
666
00:28:32.925 --> 00:28:34.325
but it's still just such a story how
667
00:28:34.965 --> 00:28:36.245
horrible the season Penske's having.
668
00:28:38.315 --> 00:28:39.885
Yeah, yeah.
669
00:28:41.715 --> 00:28:43.165
Just wild. And then unfortunately
670
00:28:43.165 --> 00:28:44.285
Graham was caught up in that.
671
00:28:44.755 --> 00:28:47.925
Yeah. So first turn exit for hometown guy,
672
00:28:47.925 --> 00:28:49.565
which sucked. Hmm. Um,
673
00:28:50.345 --> 00:28:51.645
Do you think the owner of the series
674
00:28:51.645 --> 00:28:52.765
might bail Penske out?
675
00:28:54.265 --> 00:28:55.325
How Mount out some way?
676
00:28:56.385 --> 00:28:59.205
Not anymore. What I mean on that note
677
00:28:59.205 --> 00:29:02.685
of Penske having a horrible year, like let's talk about,
678
00:29:02.885 --> 00:29:04.445
I mean, McLaren's having a great year,
679
00:29:04.665 --> 00:29:09.165
but it's going to go down as um, not remembered ultimately
680
00:29:09.165 --> 00:29:11.925
because No, and this is nothing against them.
681
00:29:11.955 --> 00:29:13.325
Like I, I had No, you're right.
682
00:29:13.395 --> 00:29:15.125
Huge credit to TK and Patto
683
00:29:15.125 --> 00:29:18.765
and Christian Nolan <inaudible> two fast sixes on the year.
684
00:29:18.955 --> 00:29:20.965
Like great, great job from him.
685
00:29:21.705 --> 00:29:25.185
Um, but Sie and Andretti,
686
00:29:25.185 --> 00:29:29.945
but really GSI is just, is just making everyone else look
687
00:29:30.685 --> 00:29:31.785
so subpar
688
00:29:32.125 --> 00:29:35.425
and I, this is not to take away anything from Alex.
689
00:29:35.805 --> 00:29:38.345
We, he's proven it's not just the car at this point.
690
00:29:38.925 --> 00:29:41.965
We obviously know what Dixon's capable of because
691
00:29:41.965 --> 00:29:42.965
Exactly.
692
00:29:43.035 --> 00:29:44.565
He's the best. Um,
693
00:29:45.145 --> 00:29:49.965
but like Kiffin has shown an incredible step forward this
694
00:29:49.965 --> 00:29:51.885
year and I know he's put a lot of work into it.
695
00:29:51.995 --> 00:29:53.285
It's not just the car. You,
696
00:29:53.285 --> 00:29:54.605
you have to go out there and drive the car.
697
00:29:55.625 --> 00:30:00.365
Um, and quite frankly, like he's out qualifying Felix
698
00:30:00.505 --> 00:30:04.465
and Marcus in the same equipment quite frankly.
699
00:30:04.695 --> 00:30:06.465
Yeah. So he is doing a really good job.
700
00:30:06.605 --> 00:30:10.425
But like that is, that team right now is,
701
00:30:10.645 --> 00:30:13.585
is operating on such a level, um,
702
00:30:14.215 --> 00:30:18.545
that even teams like McLaren, like Foyt,
703
00:30:19.175 --> 00:30:23.065
like ECR quite frankly, that are having years that are,
704
00:30:23.325 --> 00:30:25.545
or seasons that are, you know, a,
705
00:30:25.705 --> 00:30:27.985
a decent step up coin improvement.
706
00:30:27.985 --> 00:30:30.585
Yeah. From where they've been, um,
707
00:30:30.965 --> 00:30:33.345
is just gonna be completely forgotten in 2025
708
00:30:33.345 --> 00:30:36.745
because of what is happening basically at the hands of one,
709
00:30:37.175 --> 00:30:39.265
kind of one and a half teams. Because,
710
00:30:39.265 --> 00:30:41.465
Because here's the thing that I was also thinking about.
711
00:30:41.685 --> 00:30:44.025
I'm like man, they also just, every one of the,
712
00:30:44.025 --> 00:30:45.745
because we have two weeks in a row now, we've had
713
00:30:46.325 --> 00:30:48.345
had a tricky strategy races, right?
714
00:30:48.415 --> 00:30:50.065
Like it's do you pit on this yellow,
715
00:30:50.165 --> 00:30:51.905
do you not field get split, whatever, whatever.
716
00:30:51.925 --> 00:30:53.425
And they're always on the right side of it.
717
00:30:53.885 --> 00:30:56.225
But I was thinking about it yesterday on the drive home
718
00:30:56.245 --> 00:30:57.425
and I'm like, no.
719
00:30:57.905 --> 00:31:01.385
'cause part of it is when you're that fast, your strategy
720
00:31:01.865 --> 00:31:02.865
Strategy looks
Good.
721
00:31:02.865 --> 00:31:03.465
Open up, right? Yeah.
722
00:31:03.705 --> 00:31:05.585
'cause when I was looking at him verse Dixon,
723
00:31:05.585 --> 00:31:09.745
the one verse two, it only worked if he could pull out a 27
724
00:31:09.745 --> 00:31:12.505
second gap on Dixon, which he did.
725
00:31:12.735 --> 00:31:15.305
Like, had that been a 15 second gap
726
00:31:15.325 --> 00:31:17.505
and he came up behind him and had to catch him and pass him.
727
00:31:17.645 --> 00:31:18.905
He wasn't gonna do it. We saw
728
00:31:18.905 --> 00:31:20.825
that he couldn't pass him once Dixon got around him
729
00:31:20.825 --> 00:31:23.745
with five laps to go, so like track positions everything.
730
00:31:23.885 --> 00:31:25.185
He was so a eight.
731
00:31:25.245 --> 00:31:29.505
The fact he left himself exposed, he was in the danger zone
732
00:31:29.605 --> 00:31:31.265
for like eight laps
733
00:31:31.285 --> 00:31:33.945
or something when the last Pitters had started to come in.
734
00:31:33.945 --> 00:31:36.745
But he needed that gap to Scott before he.
735
00:31:37.245 --> 00:31:38.705
And so it's just like, yes,
736
00:31:38.805 --> 00:31:40.585
it looks like they're calling all the strategies, right?
737
00:31:40.585 --> 00:31:42.945
But when you can hit the fuel number, make the lab time,
738
00:31:43.045 --> 00:31:44.225
do whatever, like yeah,
739
00:31:44.295 --> 00:31:45.905
your strategy options are kind of endless.
740
00:31:46.125 --> 00:31:48.865
So he does deserve a tremendous amount of the credit
741
00:31:48.865 --> 00:31:50.665
because we know what Dixon's capable of
742
00:31:51.225 --> 00:31:53.665
and he is handling Dixon right now.
743
00:31:54.365 --> 00:31:55.985
Um, I'm Deb glad you brought up ki
744
00:31:55.985 --> 00:31:57.225
though 'cause that was gonna be on my list.
745
00:31:57.365 --> 00:31:59.265
He is having such a, a strong run.
746
00:31:59.265 --> 00:32:01.305
Like that was a really, really impressive day for him.
747
00:32:01.865 --> 00:32:03.825
I actually just saw him and um,
748
00:32:04.525 --> 00:32:05.545
you know, he made a little mistake.
749
00:32:05.545 --> 00:32:06.785
He was running third, he made a little mistake,
750
00:32:07.415 --> 00:32:09.705
lost some track position and then unfortunately had an issue
751
00:32:09.705 --> 00:32:11.185
in the pits where the car stalled
752
00:32:11.185 --> 00:32:13.665
and you know, he should have been way higher up than he was.
753
00:32:14.285 --> 00:32:15.785
But I'm with you man.
754
00:32:15.785 --> 00:32:17.665
Like, you still gotta get in and and wheel the thing.
755
00:32:17.725 --> 00:32:19.265
And he was doing a great job
756
00:32:19.485 --> 00:32:21.705
and it's, it's been a really kind
757
00:32:21.705 --> 00:32:24.305
of steady progression over the last two years for him.
758
00:32:24.405 --> 00:32:27.625
And it's great to see, uh, the kid is working hard.
759
00:32:27.625 --> 00:32:29.345
He is putting in the time away from the
760
00:32:29.345 --> 00:32:30.745
racetrack and it's great.
761
00:32:31.485 --> 00:32:36.065
Um, and you also mentioned, uh, DDCR and, and with Dale Coin
762
00:32:36.065 --> 00:32:37.505
and reus another top 10,
763
00:32:37.615 --> 00:32:40.485
they just keep ripping off these amazing Sundays man.
764
00:32:40.505 --> 00:32:43.205
And it's really, really impressive from the team,
765
00:32:43.675 --> 00:32:45.365
from him, from everybody.
766
00:32:45.985 --> 00:32:50.315
Um, yeah, it was a bit of a weekend to forget for Foyt.
767
00:32:50.635 --> 00:32:51.915
I don't know if, did you see the whole
768
00:32:51.975 --> 00:32:53.435
uh, Santino O'Connor thing? ?
769
00:32:54.115 --> 00:32:57.075
I sure did. I sure did. Um,
770
00:32:57.425 --> 00:32:59.795
There's gotta be something else that happened before that.
771
00:32:59.935 --> 00:33:02.515
Or maybe there's just like some history because like, no,
772
00:33:02.545 --> 00:33:04.875
Santino got
Him in four and Connor gave him room
773
00:33:05.055 --> 00:33:06.355
and then just drove him off
774
00:33:06.355 --> 00:33:07.355
The track.
775
00:33:07.355 --> 00:33:11.165
Much, much like, uh, Tim
776
00:33:11.925 --> 00:33:14.205
Connor does not, does not care for Santino.
777
00:33:15.025 --> 00:33:19.805
Um, and so I think, not,
778
00:33:19.825 --> 00:33:21.045
not that Connor did anything wrong,
779
00:33:21.065 --> 00:33:22.485
but like Santino knows that.
780
00:33:22.785 --> 00:33:26.125
And so there's just a little bit of, of underlying
781
00:33:27.165 --> 00:33:30.285
animosity, um, between the two of them.
782
00:33:30.705 --> 00:33:35.685
Um, as was made very clear on the old Twitters afterwards
783
00:33:35.875 --> 00:33:39.285
when Connor, uh, made it
784
00:33:39.975 --> 00:33:43.565
clear his feelings, which was kind of hilarious,
785
00:33:44.245 --> 00:33:46.165
although also kind of uncalled for,
786
00:33:46.265 --> 00:33:48.005
but neither here nor there.
787
00:33:48.305 --> 00:33:51.245
Um, that was super got penalty for it. Yeah.
788
00:33:51.875 --> 00:33:52.925
Cino got a penalty for it.
789
00:33:53.545 --> 00:33:57.165
He should have, like IndyCar has made it very clear, um,
790
00:33:58.265 --> 00:34:01.005
and has for a while, we've talked about this at length.
791
00:34:02.145 --> 00:34:03.565
If you're side by side with a guy,
792
00:34:05.225 --> 00:34:07.555
IndyCar is gonna allow the guy on the inside
793
00:34:07.735 --> 00:34:10.115
to open his hands and run the racing line.
794
00:34:10.575 --> 00:34:14.035
Um, if he deems that he wants to do that, um,
795
00:34:15.705 --> 00:34:17.515
what Santino did was he did that
796
00:34:17.575 --> 00:34:19.995
and then also drove himself off the track, which is
797
00:34:19.995 --> 00:34:21.035
where the penalty came from.
798
00:34:21.175 --> 00:34:23.435
So like, I mean, definitely took it too far,
799
00:34:24.215 --> 00:34:27.075
but like, you know, I had the, the incident,
800
00:34:27.495 --> 00:34:29.595
it probably wasn't on TV 'cause it was a battle for
801
00:34:30.345 --> 00:34:31.755
15th, unfortunately.
802
00:34:31.895 --> 00:34:33.435
But I was coming outta the pits
803
00:34:33.435 --> 00:34:36.195
and Louie was on the inside of me for turn two
804
00:34:36.195 --> 00:34:38.395
and I was on cold tires and I tried to hang it around the
805
00:34:38.395 --> 00:34:40.315
outside and he opened his hands and I go in the dirt
806
00:34:40.335 --> 00:34:42.115
and I lose two spots
807
00:34:42.215 --> 00:34:44.755
and like yeah, I mean it's on me to,
808
00:34:44.975 --> 00:34:46.395
to not hang it on the outside.
809
00:34:46.995 --> 00:34:50.435
I didn't think that he being a rookie would do it,
810
00:34:50.495 --> 00:34:52.795
but I guess he's watched enough IndyCar races
811
00:34:52.795 --> 00:34:54.435
that he is like, oh, this is the thing that we do.
812
00:34:54.535 --> 00:34:56.315
So I mean fair play to him.
813
00:34:56.315 --> 00:34:58.555
Like you can't, you can't get mad at the guy
814
00:34:58.655 --> 00:35:01.115
for doing the thing that's gonna guarantee your track
815
00:35:01.355 --> 00:35:02.835
position that's within the rules, right?
816
00:35:02.835 --> 00:35:06.355
Yeah. Like it's not, there's no point yelling it over it.
817
00:35:06.655 --> 00:35:11.435
Um, but yes, Santino took it literally eight feet too far.
818
00:35:12.015 --> 00:35:16.115
Um, but also you,
819
00:35:16.255 --> 00:35:17.395
you just gotta move on.
820
00:35:17.395 --> 00:35:20.395
Like you can't hold grudges in this sport. Like it's dumb.
821
00:35:20.395 --> 00:35:22.555
Yeah. Like just, he's gonna
822
00:35:22.555 --> 00:35:24.275
Be there next week and they're gonna
823
00:35:24.275 --> 00:35:25.315
be and he's gonna week after that.
824
00:35:25.455 --> 00:35:26.715
You don't want a short o he's
825
00:35:26.715 --> 00:35:28.755
gonna ship it in there again. So
826
00:35:28.945 --> 00:35:30.675
Dude, the two of 'em actually on a short oval,
827
00:35:30.675 --> 00:35:31.875
it could be, could be fireworks
828
00:35:31.895 --> 00:35:35.355
as they're usually both up front on that point though, of
829
00:35:35.355 --> 00:35:36.515
how the rules kind of are written
830
00:35:36.535 --> 00:35:37.790
and how it's been discussed.
831
00:35:39.595 --> 00:35:42.455
Are you okay, how do you feel about a rule
832
00:35:42.455 --> 00:35:46.655
where if two guys are side by side, let's say dead even,
833
00:35:46.835 --> 00:35:50.615
or the inside guy has a wheel in front, so it's
834
00:35:51.295 --> 00:35:53.745
leading edge of front tire to trailing edge
835
00:35:53.745 --> 00:35:54.865
of front tire, right?
836
00:35:55.725 --> 00:35:59.195
On the outside per the rules as they're written
837
00:35:59.455 --> 00:36:01.355
as I understand it and what you're, what you're saying,
838
00:36:01.455 --> 00:36:03.475
the guy on the inside can still just open his hands
839
00:36:03.495 --> 00:36:05.075
and basically drive the guy off the trap.
840
00:36:06.305 --> 00:36:07.435
It's only if the guys
841
00:36:07.435 --> 00:36:11.185
Run, run them, run them out of room, not like,
842
00:36:12.455 --> 00:36:13.875
not like plowing into them.
843
00:36:14.245 --> 00:36:16.235
Right. But that's like two wheels in the dirt.
844
00:36:17.035 --> 00:36:18.605
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.
845
00:36:19.025 --> 00:36:22.525
So what you're doing there is, in my opinion,
846
00:36:22.995 --> 00:36:27.845
that eliminates a lot of good opportunity for some fun side
847
00:36:27.845 --> 00:36:29.005
by side racing and for some,
848
00:36:29.205 --> 00:36:30.445
ultimately for some passing, right?
849
00:36:30.755 --> 00:36:34.475
Like if a guy's got to the point where he's, again,
850
00:36:34.475 --> 00:36:38.835
within a wheel with length of wheel diameter
851
00:36:39.255 --> 00:36:40.795
of being dead even in a corner,
852
00:36:40.975 --> 00:36:44.035
so you can see him like he's in your peripheral bag,
853
00:36:44.265 --> 00:36:47.865
he's there, you're cool with a set
854
00:36:47.865 --> 00:36:49.025
of rules that's like, nope.
855
00:36:49.325 --> 00:36:52.385
And just boom, when like if that situation, if you had
856
00:36:52.385 --> 00:36:54.305
to at least give him a car width at the exit,
857
00:36:54.405 --> 00:36:56.305
you're gonna create more opportunities for guys
858
00:36:56.325 --> 00:36:57.425
to have some passes and
859
00:36:57.425 --> 00:36:59.145
that makes the OnTrack product
860
00:36:59.345 --> 00:37:01.865
a little bit more entertaining. Maybe, maybe
861
00:37:01.865 --> 00:37:02.865
Not.
862
00:37:02.865 --> 00:37:04.785
Yeah, I think I I a hundred percent hear what you're saying.
863
00:37:05.125 --> 00:37:07.905
Um, but where
864
00:37:11.325 --> 00:37:14.385
Yes, you're, you're right, you're a hundred percent right.
865
00:37:14.905 --> 00:37:16.305
I, I don't mind it.
866
00:37:16.645 --> 00:37:21.505
Um, because so there's certain drivers that
867
00:37:23.305 --> 00:37:27.085
you, you have an issue with whether that be like kind
868
00:37:27.085 --> 00:37:28.725
of the the Santino O'Connor situation.
869
00:37:28.865 --> 00:37:29.885
But but more so,
870
00:37:30.505 --> 00:37:34.085
I'm not saying an issue from previous events or months
871
00:37:34.265 --> 00:37:38.645
or years, but it, that driver in a race could do some things
872
00:37:38.645 --> 00:37:40.045
to you that are pretty <inaudible>
873
00:37:40.305 --> 00:37:43.685
and like IndyCar isn't known aside from on ovals
874
00:37:43.785 --> 00:37:45.525
and really not even on ovals.
875
00:37:45.835 --> 00:37:48.725
They're not known for like their blocking calls. Right?
876
00:37:48.825 --> 00:37:52.565
And so there's a lot of really aggressive movements
877
00:37:52.565 --> 00:37:54.005
and reaction that happen.
878
00:37:54.195 --> 00:37:58.445
There's a lot of aggressive, um, situations like
879
00:37:58.445 --> 00:38:01.925
that in breaking zones and, and, and at high speed
880
00:38:01.925 --> 00:38:05.005
and honestly quite quite dangerous scenarios.
881
00:38:05.905 --> 00:38:07.885
And when you're dealing with that
882
00:38:08.465 --> 00:38:09.725
and you get a run on someone
883
00:38:10.105 --> 00:38:13.165
and you're up the inside, like it's nice to know
884
00:38:13.195 --> 00:38:17.645
that you can like move them out of the way as like a
885
00:38:18.185 --> 00:38:21.285
you for all of the, that you quite honestly started.
886
00:38:21.305 --> 00:38:24.285
And I almost wonder if some of that is what went down
887
00:38:24.285 --> 00:38:26.045
with the Santino and Connor situation.
888
00:38:26.285 --> 00:38:29.245
'cause bless his heart, Connor loves
889
00:38:29.345 --> 00:38:33.765
to defend very hard against the people that he wants
890
00:38:33.765 --> 00:38:34.885
to defend very hard against.
891
00:38:35.705 --> 00:38:39.605
And so I think there may have been something that led up
892
00:38:39.605 --> 00:38:42.445
to it, but like have, and,
893
00:38:42.505 --> 00:38:45.125
and I don't, I don't like retaliation in a race car,
894
00:38:45.195 --> 00:38:46.565
like using your car as a weapon.
895
00:38:46.575 --> 00:38:48.525
We've talked about how that, how stupid that is.
896
00:38:48.865 --> 00:38:53.485
But like being able to get, even if that's the correct
897
00:38:54.025 --> 00:38:58.005
phrase, by running someone a little wide on the corner exit
898
00:38:58.625 --> 00:39:00.925
and they drop some wheels and you can move on with your day
899
00:39:01.165 --> 00:39:02.725
'cause they're not gonna now rechallenge you.
900
00:39:03.475 --> 00:39:06.165
It's, it's nice to have that option, if that makes sense.
901
00:39:07.065 --> 00:39:09.165
It does make sense. It's just, it's,
902
00:39:09.525 --> 00:39:12.005
I
The is not pass.
903
00:39:13.035 --> 00:39:14.725
Well I mean what did you do to Lou? I I don't
904
00:39:15.955 --> 00:39:17.325
What did Louis do to me? You mean ?
905
00:39:17.985 --> 00:39:20.125
No, what did you do to Louis? Like to get him back.
906
00:39:20.125 --> 00:39:21.445
Nothing. Yeah, nothing.
907
00:39:21.505 --> 00:39:23.885
But he just was like <inaudible> and drove you off. Yeah.
908
00:39:23.885 --> 00:39:27.245
So like that's, yeah, I, I don't, I, it is nice having
909
00:39:27.475 --> 00:39:30.925
that ability to like sorted out a little bit with someone
910
00:39:30.925 --> 00:39:32.285
that's been ruining your day.
911
00:39:32.345 --> 00:39:33.485
But like, if it's just, if you're
912
00:39:33.485 --> 00:39:34.565
just doing it to everybody Yeah.
913
00:39:34.585 --> 00:39:36.005
At all times. It's like, but I don't,
914
00:39:36.015 --> 00:39:37.605
don't think are we hurting the, are we hurting the product?
915
00:39:37.925 --> 00:39:38.805
I don't think it's every
916
00:39:38.805 --> 00:39:40.045
That's the question one at all times.
917
00:39:40.395 --> 00:39:41.685
Okay.
I don't,
918
00:39:41.685 --> 00:39:43.725
But
I think that,
919
00:39:43.755 --> 00:39:44.755
Yeah, I,
I would agree with that.
920
00:39:44.755 --> 00:39:47.325
It's become, I think it's become more common.
921
00:39:47.475 --> 00:39:49.605
More common because it's not penalized,
922
00:39:50.145 --> 00:39:51.885
but I don't think every pass is someone
923
00:39:52.025 --> 00:39:53.325
firing someone into the dirt.
924
00:39:53.445 --> 00:39:55.045
I don't, I think this was all born out
925
00:39:55.045 --> 00:39:56.125
of turn five at Barber.
926
00:39:58.785 --> 00:40:01.525
Mm. I think the number of incidents on the exit
927
00:40:01.525 --> 00:40:03.045
of Turn five at Barber, they're probably like,
928
00:40:03.045 --> 00:40:05.205
Because there's so much grip on the outside that like the
929
00:40:05.205 --> 00:40:07.205
outside works like a lot of corners the outside.
930
00:40:07.955 --> 00:40:09.165
Like if you're hanging it out there,
931
00:40:09.235 --> 00:40:12.005
it's a really low percentage situation in the first place,
932
00:40:12.335 --> 00:40:13.965
which is kind of race control's point.
933
00:40:13.995 --> 00:40:16.245
It's like you've pretty much lost the battle already.
934
00:40:16.355 --> 00:40:17.565
What are you trying to win here?
935
00:40:17.705 --> 00:40:21.085
Mm-hmm
. So, I don't know. Fair.
936
00:40:21.505 --> 00:40:24.005
Um, like I've, I've had many passes
937
00:40:24.255 --> 00:40:28.125
where you pass someone, you outbreak 'em on the outside
938
00:40:28.125 --> 00:40:30.925
of a breaking zone and like you've got the momentum
939
00:40:31.145 --> 00:40:33.365
and like, I haven't gotten driven into doing that.
940
00:40:34.155 --> 00:40:36.125
Like it's really the guys on the inside
941
00:40:36.635 --> 00:40:39.725
that are getting squeezed that are like, no dude.
942
00:40:39.955 --> 00:40:43.405
Like you've made my life. Hell, you're squeezing me move.
943
00:40:44.195 --> 00:40:46.285
Yeah.
I dunno. That's how I see
944
00:40:46.285 --> 00:40:47.285
It.
945
00:40:47.285 --> 00:40:47.845
Yeah. Cool. Okay.
946
00:40:48.105 --> 00:40:51.165
Uh, that's that We have a double-headed Iowa coming up.
947
00:40:51.945 --> 00:40:54.005
Are we, I mean we kind of talked about the test.
948
00:40:54.165 --> 00:40:56.005
I don't know how much more we want to go into it
949
00:40:56.205 --> 00:40:58.165
'cause we kind of know roughly always up all call.
950
00:40:58.505 --> 00:41:00.405
We, oh yeah, I
951
00:41:00.405 --> 00:41:01.405
Don't care about Iowa.
952
00:41:01.405 --> 00:41:02.885
Let's talk to Ben. How are we doing bud?
953
00:41:03.635 --> 00:41:05.445
Dave?
I don't dunno if he has anything else to say.
954
00:41:06.505 --> 00:41:08.405
Oh. Oh, look at Paul. Hey pal.
955
00:41:11.145 --> 00:41:12.685
Living his best life.
956
00:41:13.235 --> 00:41:18.005
Just, just chilling. Um, all right, so whatever.
957
00:41:18.005 --> 00:41:19.085
We'll talk about IY after I,
958
00:41:19.285 --> 00:41:20.685
'cause we already talked, talked about it after the test.
959
00:41:21.265 --> 00:41:24.525
Um, we'll just briefly end on F1.
960
00:41:25.655 --> 00:41:27.845
Crazy Race. Orlando wins at home.
961
00:41:28.485 --> 00:41:31.645
Kinberg first podium, all very cool in my opinion.
962
00:41:31.685 --> 00:41:35.995
Championship battle. He tightens up. Everybody wins.
963
00:41:36.115 --> 00:41:38.195
I don't think, I don't think
964
00:41:38.195 --> 00:41:39.395
you gotta hope for a better result.
965
00:41:39.865 --> 00:41:42.555
Much like, much like Palolo aff and showed he's human.
966
00:41:43.775 --> 00:41:46.435
Yes. Wow. Finally did, so did Ptri.
967
00:41:46.455 --> 00:41:48.275
Not that we haven't seen that ever,
968
00:41:48.625 --> 00:41:51.645
but like he's been pretty robotic of late
969
00:41:51.785 --> 00:41:55.525
and he made a misjudgment that cost him a win, essentially.
970
00:41:55.825 --> 00:41:58.765
But yeah, max just good old fashioned spinning out on his
971
00:41:58.765 --> 00:42:02.385
own, still came back up and like picked up five spots
972
00:42:02.485 --> 00:42:04.545
but in a terrible car.
973
00:42:06.265 --> 00:42:07.645
Um, but no man, I thought it was great.
974
00:42:07.765 --> 00:42:10.445
I thought, I really think that
975
00:42:11.835 --> 00:42:13.725
this weekend highlighted something I've already kind
976
00:42:13.725 --> 00:42:16.445
of thought about Lando in that, you know, people love kind
977
00:42:16.445 --> 00:42:17.765
of harping on his quote unquote
978
00:42:17.765 --> 00:42:19.285
mental strength and this that and the other.
979
00:42:20.125 --> 00:42:23.365
I feel like when it comes to OnTrack battles, his ability
980
00:42:23.465 --> 00:42:25.525
to handle pressure is actually phenomenal.
981
00:42:26.105 --> 00:42:27.605
And when he has issues,
982
00:42:27.675 --> 00:42:30.085
it's when he's battling himself, right?
983
00:42:30.085 --> 00:42:32.085
It's qualifying, it's, you know, it's,
984
00:42:32.235 --> 00:42:34.365
it's thinking he's made a mistake he's gotta make
985
00:42:34.365 --> 00:42:35.485
up for or something like that.
986
00:42:35.545 --> 00:42:37.445
That's kind of when he seems to have his issues.
987
00:42:37.505 --> 00:42:38.845
But like, go the way back
988
00:42:38.845 --> 00:42:41.085
to Australia in those mixed conditions.
989
00:42:41.355 --> 00:42:43.565
Ptri breathing down his neck, he handled it really well.
990
00:42:44.145 --> 00:42:47.005
You go back to Austria last year in that battle with Tappin,
991
00:42:47.165 --> 00:42:48.605
I thought he handled that very well
992
00:42:48.605 --> 00:42:50.885
and it was Max that pushed that one over the line.
993
00:42:51.505 --> 00:42:54.085
Um, and then this was a, again, you know,
994
00:42:54.185 --> 00:42:56.725
Monaco was faultless in qualifying in the race
995
00:42:57.225 --> 00:42:59.565
and then here with everything going on, different points
996
00:42:59.565 --> 00:43:01.205
of the race, having pressure, whatever.
997
00:43:01.505 --> 00:43:03.805
And that last stent, I mean, he drove away from Oscar, so
998
00:43:04.355 --> 00:43:06.845
yeah, fine, there was a penalty that caught him in front,
999
00:43:07.545 --> 00:43:10.165
but it was ultimately, you know, up to him
1000
00:43:10.165 --> 00:43:11.885
to not screw it up, not drop a wheel,
1001
00:43:11.905 --> 00:43:13.445
not make a mistake in the race.
1002
00:43:14.105 --> 00:43:17.565
And I know he did obviously in, uh, in Montreal,
1003
00:43:18.345 --> 00:43:20.435
but I think when he's in front
1004
00:43:20.435 --> 00:43:23.435
and he's dealing with pressure behind, he's pre pre stout,
1005
00:43:23.435 --> 00:43:25.835
which is a really important trait
1006
00:43:25.835 --> 00:43:27.435
to have when you're fighting for a championship.
1007
00:43:27.895 --> 00:43:31.595
Yes. I, yeah, I, I don't disagree with that at all.
1008
00:43:31.955 --> 00:43:36.865
I think that with all that being said,
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he's got his hands full
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00:43:38.615 --> 00:43:40.505
with Oscar, I think without the penalty.
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00:43:40.605 --> 00:43:42.665
He still doesn't beat Oscar. Nope.
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00:43:42.665 --> 00:43:47.345
Um, so like yeah, but he better continue to bring it
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00:43:47.345 --> 00:43:52.305
because Oscar is just as capable, um, in all phases
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00:43:52.305 --> 00:43:53.705
of the weekend at this point as he is.
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00:43:53.725 --> 00:43:56.065
So it'll be, it'll be fun to watch it play out.
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00:43:56.265 --> 00:43:57.905
I think we're finally at the point of the season
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00:43:57.955 --> 00:44:00.985
where it's, it's gonna get contentious and mm-hmm .
1018
00:44:01.105 --> 00:44:03.145
And a little bit bickery
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00:44:03.285 --> 00:44:05.825
and a little bit catty and a little bit,
1020
00:44:05.855 --> 00:44:07.905
Well you heard, you heard, you heard Oscar's radio
1021
00:44:07.905 --> 00:44:09.785
message at the end of the race.
1022
00:44:10.565 --> 00:44:12.585
He was like, I'll probably get banned
1023
00:44:12.965 --> 00:44:14.785
for life if I say what I had to say.
1024
00:44:15.055 --> 00:44:16.585
Yeah. Like, I don't want to talk about this.
1025
00:44:16.585 --> 00:44:20.345
Like, this is, or essentially like I'm, and
1026
00:44:20.345 --> 00:44:23.465
Then I'm pissed and apparently like in the post-race
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00:44:23.515 --> 00:44:25.145
interviews and press conference,
1028
00:44:25.205 --> 00:44:27.225
he didn't once mention Lando or sorry.
1029
00:44:27.225 --> 00:44:28.305
Yeah. Didn't once mention Lando.
1030
00:44:28.305 --> 00:44:29.865
All he talked about was Hulking burg getting his first
1031
00:44:29.865 --> 00:44:31.565
podium, and everything.
1032
00:44:31.705 --> 00:44:33.685
So it's like, oh yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Okay.
1033
00:44:33.755 --> 00:44:35.365
Look, I mean, Lando, it's not like they had a,
1034
00:44:35.365 --> 00:44:37.005
like a contentious battle on track.
1035
00:44:37.005 --> 00:44:39.725
There's no reason to be mad at Lando, but No, but
1036
00:44:39.745 --> 00:44:41.285
Now it's, I mean that was a, that was a win.
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00:44:41.285 --> 00:44:42.285
That that's the guy you don't
1038
00:44:42.285 --> 00:44:43.605
wanna see it go into your teammate. Yeah.
1039
00:44:44.495 --> 00:44:47.205
Which is what happened in both the races this weekend
1040
00:44:47.205 --> 00:44:50.205
had , IndyCar and F1.
1041
00:44:50.205 --> 00:44:51.365
Don't think blow is under much threat,
1042
00:44:51.365 --> 00:44:52.885
unfortunately. No, he's not his
1043
00:44:52.965 --> 00:44:53.965
Teammate.
1044
00:44:53.965 --> 00:44:54.325
No, he's not point. But he did make a mistake
1045
00:44:54.325 --> 00:44:55.525
that led his teammate win the race .
1046
00:44:56.245 --> 00:44:58.725
Um, and then shout out SVG won again in Chicago,
1047
00:44:58.895 --> 00:45:00.165
which everybody kinda had.
1048
00:45:00.635 --> 00:45:02.685
Yeah. There was a friend, there was a friend of ours.
1049
00:45:03.375 --> 00:45:05.605
Sorry, sorry, Tim. There was a friend of ours, Alex,
1050
00:45:05.785 --> 00:45:09.125
who has a friend that made a not
1051
00:45:09.635 --> 00:45:11.285
insignificant wager.
1052
00:45:11.545 --> 00:45:14.445
Mm-hmm. Um, I know you don't know much about sports betting,
1053
00:45:14.445 --> 00:45:17.445
but uh, he did something called a parlay, uh,
1054
00:45:17.615 --> 00:45:20.245
where multiple things have to happen in order to win.
1055
00:45:20.665 --> 00:45:24.205
And he had a not insignificant amount of money, uh,
1056
00:45:24.265 --> 00:45:25.685
on a Hello.
1057
00:45:26.605 --> 00:45:30.445
SVG Parlay. , ah,
1058
00:45:31.115 --> 00:45:33.565
Well if it's the friend that I think is the friend
1059
00:45:33.875 --> 00:45:35.685
that was quite a
1060
00:45:36.305 --> 00:45:38.485
Hit, it's a big hit.
1061
00:45:38.545 --> 00:45:40.485
And apparently he had already lost a not insignificant
1062
00:45:40.485 --> 00:45:41.925
amount of money on the Nathan's hot dog
1063
00:45:41.925 --> 00:45:43.125
eating contest on Friday.
1064
00:45:43.425 --> 00:45:45.725
So he was really hoping for a dub on Sunday .
1065
00:45:46.585 --> 00:45:51.085
Um, also though, I feel like we gotta mention Scott Dixon
1066
00:45:51.805 --> 00:45:54.805
a win in how, what, 21 or 22 years now.
1067
00:45:55.585 --> 00:45:58.485
21 consecutive seasons with a win. There's not even words.
1068
00:45:58.485 --> 00:46:00.725
Like I I I didn't ever doubt that
1069
00:46:00.725 --> 00:46:02.045
that was gonna happen this year.
1070
00:46:02.145 --> 00:46:04.365
So like, maybe we should be making a bigger deal about it
1071
00:46:04.365 --> 00:46:05.805
than we are, but like we finally have
1072
00:46:06.485 --> 00:46:07.565
a third winner in the season,
1073
00:46:07.615 --> 00:46:09.245
which is crazy to say. Did you ever doubt
1074
00:46:09.685 --> 00:46:12.245
I kind of did with how much po been dominating?
1075
00:46:12.545 --> 00:46:13.725
No, it's Dixon man.
1076
00:46:13.875 --> 00:46:15.845
He's always, he's always gonna sneak one past the
1077
00:46:15.845 --> 00:46:16.925
goalie. There he is gonna get it done.
1078
00:46:17.245 --> 00:46:18.525
I saw somebody on Twitter say,
1079
00:46:18.715 --> 00:46:21.125
polo may be inevitable, but Dixon is
1080
00:46:21.255 --> 00:46:22.255
inevitable.
.
1081
00:46:27.315 --> 00:46:29.605
Yeah. No, it's, uh, 21 consecutive.
1082
00:46:29.605 --> 00:46:31.565
I mean, he's done more races in IndyCar than anybody.
1083
00:46:32.185 --> 00:46:33.725
He has, uh,
1084
00:46:33.995 --> 00:46:36.205
done more consecutive races in IndyCar than anybody.
1085
00:46:36.205 --> 00:46:38.845
Second most on wins, second most on championships,
1086
00:46:39.025 --> 00:46:40.725
21 consecutive seasons with a win.
1087
00:46:40.845 --> 00:46:42.125
I mean, the guy is incredible.
1088
00:46:42.315 --> 00:46:45.245
He's just, he's just the best. Uh, but we know that.
1089
00:46:45.425 --> 00:46:47.525
All right, Iowa, good luck.
1090
00:46:47.805 --> 00:46:49.565
I hope it's better than we think it's gonna be.
1091
00:46:49.685 --> 00:46:53.325
I hate to say that, but cautiously pessimistic about
1092
00:46:53.555 --> 00:46:54.605
what the weekend's gonna be.
1093
00:46:55.225 --> 00:46:59.615
Um, and we'll have twice as much racing action
1094
00:46:59.615 --> 00:47:00.935
to discuss next week.
1095
00:47:01.155 --> 00:47:02.775
So make sure you tune
1096
00:47:02.775 --> 00:47:04.095
In for twice as much.
1097
00:47:04.985 --> 00:47:06.535
Sorry, twice as many laps lapping,
1098
00:47:06.715 --> 00:47:08.655
but less asrac action. twice as,
1099
00:47:08.655 --> 00:47:10.255
Yeah, twice as many laps to talk about.
1100
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