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This is off track.
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Blue Jays bro. Holy crap dude. How about that?
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How about that? Here's what I've always said about
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baseball and basketball back home is
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because we've got one team for the entire country,
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it really does unite the country in a very cool way.
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And like hockey fractures, Canada baseball
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and basketball bring it all together.
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And like you'll be traveling out in Vancouver
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or something in Western Canada
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and you'll see somebody with a JS a, you'll be like,
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oh my God, why does he have a Js a?
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Oh, right. 'cause that's all we have.
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That's literally the only baseball team in the country. Do,
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Do you wanna know what blows in my mind is the,
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the Raptors have been good off
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and on for the better part of a decade.
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Um, the Blue Jays have been good off and on for a while.
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Um, and Toronto with, its with, it's
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the way the tax situation is set up, it's very hard
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to get athletes to come play for Toronto.
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Sure. Is just because it sure is.
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You're paying a lot more in taxes as an athlete
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to live in Toronto than you would be if you played in
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Chicago or Detroit or whatever, and
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Miami.
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Right. Any of the 50 states, um,
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that have an California FBA or well sure.
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MLB team. Um, and yet they're still able to attract some
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of the best players in the world to come play there.
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So that just goes to show
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how good those organizations must be from like a management
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standpoint, because people are willing
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to make a substantially less money
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to play for these teams.
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So the quality of of life must be pretty good
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for them to make that decision. Yeah,
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Yeah, for sure.
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It's a great point. And I think that it also kind
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of forces the teams to be
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a little bit more aggressive maybe on finding young
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talent and bringing them up.
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Mm. Right. And taking risks on guys to, to nurture them into
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what becomes stars.
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We definitely have seen that a lot with the Raptors.
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We're like, we'll get these good players
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and then people will be like, oh, they're really good.
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We'll take them. You know, . Yeah, for sure. For sure.
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So it's, it's been a stepping stone kind
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of place, uh, in some ways.
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But No, it's, it's a great point.
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And like, it's the same in hockey. I know.
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You've got more options.
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There's six teams up there, so it's,
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it's a different conversation.
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But like, if you're being asked to go play for the Panthers
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or the Leafs and they're both good, you're like, yeah,
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but I could have no state income tax in Florida.
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That sounds cool. Mm-hmm .
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So, yeah, there's, I think part of what it is,
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is those teams have such a support system behind them
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and such a fan base
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and playing for them, like mean something
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in a, in a different way.
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Uh, I think that helps kind of bridge that gap too
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and, and make that happen.
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But anyway, yeah. Series tied up at two, that game
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that went 18 innings ridiculous.
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Didn't watch
So glad didn't watch.
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I didn't stay, I didn't stay up for it. I couldn't. But
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What's funny is everyone, everyone was like, oh, the, uh,
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this, that was the death sentence for, for, for the Jays
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because, you know, 18 innings, they're not
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as deep as the Dodgers.
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They're gonna be tired. All this sort of thing.
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First of all, first of all,
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these are professional athletes, right?
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And aside from the pitcher
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and aside from Tani who was on base like nine times,
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it's a lot of, it's a lot of standing.
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Like I know it's, you're, you're always on alert
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and you're always having to be ready
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because you never know when a ball's coming your way
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and you gotta make a huge play sort of thing.
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So it's, it's a very anxious and stressful situation,
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but it's not that taxing on your body.
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So like, when everyone was like, oh, they're screwed
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'cause 'cause they're not gonna be able to do it.
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It's like, well, no. First of all,
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they're, they're pretty fit.
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Second of all, they're in a must win situation. Mm-hmm.
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Um, and they're pretty good at baseball.
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And, and, and also like, you got potentially the hottest
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batter in the league right now with, uh,
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with uh, flat, what's his face?
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Flatty. So it's
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No idea.
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Game idea. You care about baseball. I
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Canadian,
I, no,
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I care about things when it's the World
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Series, the Stanley Cup.
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When it's the masters, I don't give a fuck about
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regular season baseball.
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Couldn't care less. Right.
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I don't about the Dodgers or the Blue Jays,
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but what I love is, I love seeing the two best
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compete in a Best of Seven series.
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Yeah. On a Tuesday night. Like, what more could you ask for?
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Right. What else has happened on a Tuesday night?
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Exactly. Yeah. Um,
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Um, I, I'll tell you what blew my mind.
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I didn't know people from Toronto were called Torontonians.
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How did you not know that?
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What did you say they were called?
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I didn't, I I've never given any thought,
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but he just said Toronto winds or whatever.
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So I was like, oh, I wonder what that is.
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And I looked it up and it's Torontonians
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and that just sounds my up.
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You could have, I'm sorry,
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you guys call yourselves Angelenos.
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Well first of all, I'm a Hoosier.
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You know what I mean?
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arguably more stupid. Yeah.
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You
Know why ourselves, Hoosiers, we don't
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Just do we.
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Exactly.
Because literally nobody knows
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why that that name
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Exists. Super. Yeah.
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Anyway.
Okay. Well you guys are both losing your
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honorary Hoosier status. I
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Feel like as long as I pay taxes here, I'm allowed
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to call myself a Hoosier.
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Yeah. Yeah.
So you don't actually,
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I think you're losing your honest,
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that's fair. Hoosier status.
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Apparently Hoosiers is an insult in Missouri.
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Well, I think it started as a, there's a couple,
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we're not getting into the theories
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of Hosier and where it came from.
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'cause there're, there's like three prevailing ones
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and they're all pretty obscure.
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But yeah. One of 'em is not like super complimentary. Mm.
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But I'll take it.
Just, I
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Mean, neither was Yankee, you know?
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Yeah. I think that's, yeah, that's a good point.
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Now there's a whole very successful
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organization built around that name. So
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Anyways, let's not get into franchise
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naming 'cause that's a slippery slope. .
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See, I wasn't even talking about the Yankees.
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I was talking about the term Yankee,
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but that's No, yes, I know.
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But I'm saying they've, they've taken it now
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and have made it anyway.
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Um, so yeah.
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Go Jays, hopefully that keeps going the right way.
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At least we know that for sure.
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It's going to a, at least a game six.
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So we'll go back to Toronto. Yeah.
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Which has made me like really think about maybe going home
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for 24 hours and, uh, I know a pilot
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If you need one. Do you have an
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In?
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I don't, I haven't. I'm sure there's a way.
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I'm sure there's a way. I would just go buy tickets.
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I gotta just go scalp tickets. I don't even care.
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Just like being in that dome during what could be.
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Like I went to one of the World Series games as a kid in 93.
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We used to have season tickets to the Blue Jays.
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And like my dad said, he was like, okay, you can go
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to game four
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and it's a guarantee that you'll get to see a game
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or you can hold out for one
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of the later games, but we might not make it.
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And I was like, oh, well I'm gonna
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take the guarantee I want to see.
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And sure enough, I should not have done that.
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'cause we ended up making it and winning it.
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But, um, I have been to
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World Series games at the, what was then skydome,
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which is now Ro Roger Center before.
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And it brings back a lot of fun memories.
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I was like texting my mom, uh,
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what not last night, one of the games before.
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I just saying like, it's so cool.
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Like, I'm, I'm into this again in a way
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that I haven't been probably since the last
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time they were in the World Series.
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And it just bring back these cool memories from childhood.
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So I would love to, I dunno if it's possible, but,
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Um, I, if, if I wasn't going to be in LA
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with our esteemed colleague Timothy, um,
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and watching Ponies run, I, I would definitely go with you,
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but, uh, that's
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A
Bummer. Alas, I cannot
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But I mean, your pony runs a lot of times a year.
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Blue Jays are only in the World Series. My pony
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Is not running at all.
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My Pony's in New Orleans talked
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About.
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So are you in California to watch
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On Tuesday?
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It's breed's cup.
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Are you just going as a horse fan
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or is there like some sort of
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Horse fan?
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Cocktail fan. Okay. That fan. Okay. Food fan.
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Got it. Yeah. Breeders Cup. All right.
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Tim Fan.
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I don't know if I'm gonna buy that one. I get it. I get
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it.
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What do you guys, how do you guys feel about Pears?
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The fruit? Not like pro, generally. Pro.
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EAR not a IR. Um,
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Against
Why, why are you against Pears?
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I just don't like 'em.
Do you like apples?
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I do.
So I mean, what do you like about apples
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that you don't like about pears?
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Well, apples are crunchy because I have a theory. Okay.
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Apples are crunchy. Pears are
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not, don't taste like an apple.
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No, they taste better. That's what I'm getting at.
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I'm pretty sure. I think the taste of a pea is better.
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It is juicier. Mm.
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It is more flavorful, but it's a <inaudible> mess.
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I think pears have fallen below apples in the,
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like, commonality
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Fruit.
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So it's less many than, it's less
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messy than like a pomegranate. Yeah. But also
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Not a very popular fruit for just walking around
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and putting your lunch bag
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as a kid and like, you know, walk around.
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I'll have an apple, you know?
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Right. I mean, the ultimate fruit for travel is banana.
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It's,
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It, you safe for
Travel, self-contained.
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But once you start it, you have to finish.
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It's, you're, you put a
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Half, half, half half in your backpack on
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A plane.
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That's fair. That's fair. But I'm thinking there's gotta be
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something like a grape
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where you just have like multiple self-contained, small ones
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Grape in like a Tupperware,
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but then you'd have to have the Tupperware at the end.
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Yeah. Right. That's where like you throw,
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I was, you know, again, I was
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Thinking it's
Definitely not as more
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The sanitary fact that you don't have to wash it.
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Like Yeah. You just peel a banana
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and you eat it and you're done. And it's,
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And it's not messy.
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There's no residue. It's not messy.
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Yeah.
It's great for you. No, it's
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probably, it's a good shout.
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Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. Which the
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On which go fruit is a banana.
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It's not my favorite fruit at all. I actually don't.
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What's your favorite fruit? But I
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love the convenience of it.
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My favorite fruit is a sumo orange.
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Okay. Yeah. What, what
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Can't you just say orange?
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Just like, why do you gotta be the way that you are? ,
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Be less you, can you? Yeah. So
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A sumo a sumo orange.
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So check this out. So check this out. Is a Japanese guy, .
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And
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Can I just, I just wanna interrupt
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because I wanna tell you why I hate this right now.
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I'm gonna try this orange
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and I'm gonna be like, damnit, he's right.
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Yeah.
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Well, here's what's gonna stop you.
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It's like $4 75 an orange. So seems aggressive.
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I'm willing to do one.
It's a, it's a genetically,
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so you know, those, you know those oranges
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that when you look at 'em in the store,
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they're the like really warty ones
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and you're like, what the <inaudible>,
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what the fuck is that?
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Like why would I buy that?
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Like, it's a, it's not a good looking orange.
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Okay.
Like, this skin's super thick
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and it's got the point and all this sort. Yeah.
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It's warty and stuff. Yeah.
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Well this is a genetically modified citrus
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that a guy in Japan created.
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And he was like, I love oranges,
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but I hate the, the randomness of an orange.
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Like sometimes you have a great orange
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and then you grab another one
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and it's trash, it's dry, it's sour, it's not juicy.
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All this sort of thing. And he was like,
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I also don't like the little white stringy things
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on an orange because like mm-hmm .
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You, you either eat it
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or you spend extra time peeling it, it gets on your fingers
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and it's a mess and whatever.
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Right. And third, I don't like the seeds.
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So he was like, I'm gonna create the perfect citrus.
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So he created the sumo orange,
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which has none of the white stuff.
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Every single one is bomb diggity and it's seedless.
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So like you are getting the full orange experience without
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any of the bullshit a hundred percent of the time.
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Okay. Okay.
I'm for it. The
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Genetically altered part.
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I, I can't tell if I care about or not. I feel like I should
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Counter, I
Dunno what I do.
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I don't know that, did you know lemons are
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not naturally occurring? We invented them
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Actually.
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Yeah, I did know that. Yeah. Okay. All right.
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You're onto something there.
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And this sort of thing is used in other areas
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of agriculture. Fine.
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Yeah. We're not talking about like creating humans here.
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Okay. So let me ask you this. It's alive.
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Let's say you bought a normal orange
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and it was one of the ones that just happened to be good.
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Like it's gonna have the white
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stringy things on it. Fine. Yeah, yeah,
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Yeah. And
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Seeds, but like, and seeds.
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But it's just, it's just good. Mm-hmm .
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Are you gonna say that
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that orange is better than any other fruit as well?
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Because you just really love the taste
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of a good orange and sum?
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Orange is just win because they're consistently good.
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Right. Right. I would say, I would say it's really close
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between that and like in cherries.
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Oh, nice. Okay. I like that. But yeah,
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I like that mean that it's
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probably a tie between those two.
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But cherries are hard
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'cause it, they're only good for
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like one or two months a year.
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Right. Whereas again,
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Well, they killed Zachary Taylor get
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It all the time. Is
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That like a president or something?
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Yeah. I don't know why I knew that. Um,
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He died because he ate too many
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cherries and drank too much milk.
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Yeah. I, yeah, we, we, we gathered.
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Um, do you know the difference?
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This was a con this is actually just reminds me
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of a conversation that came up in the, uh,
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production trailer at an IndyCar race
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with my beloved Fox colleagues.
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Um, we were talking about favorite fruit
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and then Georgia actually was like, well,
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what's your favorite, like, casual fruit
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and your favorite non casuals fruit?
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And I walked in and in this conversation I'm like,
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I'm, I'm sorry. Good
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Answer.
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No, good question. Peas for casual kiwi for not casual.
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Wow. Okay. So you actually kind
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of understand what she means by that.
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Yeah. Because we went into a whole debate about
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what classified a casual or a non casuals fruit.
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What was, how did you, yeah, I don't understand.
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How did you define?
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You don't understand why there's a question. Yeah.
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It just seems obvious to me.
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'cause like, yeah, there's gonna be some fruits
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where it's gonna be a thing.
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You're not gonna sit down
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and like casually have a kiwi
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because that's a process. Wild
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Though, is but, but people eat kiwis through the skin.
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Well, those people are psychopaths. That's
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Well, I married to one.
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Well, we need to end that .
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Isn't it like a fuzzy, isn't it like fuzzy?
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Why did, why didn't you tell us this earlier?
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We need to extricate you from this situation as soon as
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Possible.
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Blink. Blink twice if you're in trouble. .
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No, I also, not all the time, but she can.
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And apparently you can. It's apparently a thing.
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And, but,
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but, so we kind of tried to define the difference
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between casual and non casuals.
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Fruit was like, if you have to do anything to it to eat it,
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it becomes non casuals. So like, okay.
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But no key a
For example, but
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Like, you gotta peel a banana, you gotta peel an orange.
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Right? But like, those are pretty cough.
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You have to dehydrate a raisin,
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You know?
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So I would not consider raisins a casual fruit under any
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circumstances whatsoever.
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Really? Yeah. I barely consider them a fruit, but I don't,
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I mean, they're not dehydrated,
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But isn't a grape of fruit.
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Sure is. But, so would you classify
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Like the, okay.
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Would you classify, um, olives as a fruit? I hate
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That they are, aren't they?
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Yeah. But like, yeah,
They're on
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As and they're pit or
Are they seeds?
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No, they're fruits.
Or they've got a pit.
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They're fruit. Right? Yeah.
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I hate that. It's like a, it's like a peach, but gross.
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I mean, so essentially interesting.
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Essentially a, a dirty martini's
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healthy, it's might as well. Well, yeah.
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I think we've all known that it's a
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Fruit beverage.
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Yeah. I'm having, I'm having a fruity beverage.
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Yeah.
Gin martini.
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Um, um, but all alcohol's healthy
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or they wouldn't use it at hospitals.
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You're not consuming it.
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Yeah. You're, you're using your
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alcohol in a different way than they are. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. They're using
It's
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Sterilize.
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To which paraphrase?
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New girl rubbing alcohol for my outside injuries,
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drinking alcohol for my inside injuries.
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That is very depressing and sad, but accurate.
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I was gonna say like, either, either, uh, pineapple
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or grapefruit would be my non casuals favorite fruit.
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Grapefruit, eh, with or without sugar?
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Without just bitter as, yeah.
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What I like about grapefru Butterball, I don't like,
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Yeah, it's a mother, but it's, it's good.
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It's, it's a pain. Grapefruit.
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It's a little, it's a lot of work.
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But what I like about them is you eat.
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So I, you know, you split it in half
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and I like cut out all the little squares.
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Mm-hmm . And I eat it with a spoon,
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obviously. And that's delicious.
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Yeah. And
Then you can squeeze it into the bowl.
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And then you get the juice too.
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So it's almost like you get two meals
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outta it. Yeah. And then
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You get two experiences.
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Like if a bottle of tequila's next
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to you, you've got a cocktail.
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It's a nice, it's a nice cocktail.
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It's, it's a nice Paloma. It's
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Called Paloma. Yeah. Yeah.
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And um, so yeah, I'm, I think I'm, but, but,
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but I do love pineapple.
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I do, but pineapple, I feel like you can get bad. Pineapple.
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I haven't really had like a, a bad grapefruit. Grapefruit.
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All free. Would you choose a for the work?
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Would you choose a pineapple over a
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watermelon? Good Watermelon.
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Good Watermelon is pretty good.
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And not that much work compared to a pineapple.
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I mean, arguably less.
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I would, yeah, I would say it's less.
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I'm saying it's, yeah. Compared, it's not as,
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I mean, if you have a sharp knife,
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it's really no worth at all.
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I don't love the seeds in a watermelon. I don't
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Keep them. Well that's seedless.
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I don't love. I know. So we're gonna go seedless.
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That's a different conversation. Well,
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Everything, if you can get anything
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seedless, you should get it.
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Yeah, that's true. Especially Kiwis. I hate kiwi seeds.
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Okay. Fun story. And then we need to move on, like pretty.
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Yeah. So we are at the point in Ben's life,
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we're introducing solids slowly.
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Okay. And so number one was,
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um, banana.
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Right? That's like, I feel like the def defacto
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Number barely solid. Yeah. For
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First thing, right?
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You mush it up and you give it to 'em. Hated it.
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They were like, all right. What about avocado? Hated it.
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Okay. This is, this is going well. I
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Like brunch,
Uh, peas.
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Kids love mushed up. Peas hate it.
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It good man. We want peas.
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Fourth thing that he tried Kiwi. Yeah, love kiwi.
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Oh yeah. Which is wild
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because like, that's not, it's not like a No,
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That's a weird one.
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Yeah. It's not like an an, uh,
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a just a super forward facing. It's sweet. It's
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Very flavorful.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's just like a, I don't know.
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And the seeds like, it's like sand weird. Okay.
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You tell him that one day he can just eat 'em
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like an apple if he wants.
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No, no. Do not tell him that.
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Well, part of tell him he's, well, he's wondering
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Kicked outta the house if he does that part
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of me is wondering if like his aunt Becky
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ate a kiwi in front of him like that.
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So that's why he thinks he likes Kiwi. He
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Does have a low key crush on Aunt Becky.
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So that might be maybe he's trying to her It
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Was though.
508
00:19:02.245 --> 00:19:06.605
No, not anymore. . not as
509
00:19:06.605 --> 00:19:09.085
of, not as of 12 minutes ago when he learned
510
00:19:09.085 --> 00:19:11.005
that she sometimes eats Kiwis through the skin.
511
00:19:14.745 --> 00:19:16.325
Oh boy. We have something to talk about.
512
00:19:16.355 --> 00:19:19.365
What happened as of 23 minutes ago, 20 time
513
00:19:20.155 --> 00:19:22.885
Indy 500 starter in 2006, Indy car, rookie of the year,
514
00:19:22.885 --> 00:19:24.485
Marco Andretti has announced his
515
00:19:24.485 --> 00:19:26.605
retirement from motor racing. Wow.
516
00:19:26.735 --> 00:19:29.725
There you go. How did all three of us miss that?
517
00:19:30.485 --> 00:19:31.485
I had
No idea. I literally,
518
00:19:31.765 --> 00:19:33.325
I literally went on racer right
519
00:19:33.325 --> 00:19:34.565
before we started recording just
520
00:19:34.565 --> 00:19:36.125
to like see if there was anything new and exciting.
521
00:19:36.305 --> 00:19:40.445
And that must have been 24 minutes ago. . Yeah. Yeah.
522
00:19:40.665 --> 00:19:42.645
Wow. Okay. Alright.
523
00:19:43.545 --> 00:19:45.745
Hey, I honestly, congrats.
524
00:19:45.885 --> 00:19:50.585
I'm, I'm, I am I'm happy that you two are both like Yeah,
525
00:19:51.045 --> 00:19:52.225
no, I'm glad none of us knew.
526
00:19:52.585 --> 00:19:53.585
Congrats to Marco.
527
00:19:53.985 --> 00:19:55.705
I think I,
528
00:19:56.265 --> 00:19:59.065
I don't think it's often talked about enough.
529
00:19:59.685 --> 00:20:03.785
The challenge that he had despite some of the advantages
530
00:20:04.095 --> 00:20:06.065
that he had, the challenge that he had,
531
00:20:06.065 --> 00:20:08.305
because you know, there are,
532
00:20:08.315 --> 00:20:10.145
there are quite a few drivers, right.
533
00:20:10.165 --> 00:20:11.865
Who are second generation mm-hmm .
534
00:20:12.205 --> 00:20:15.665
And there's this, there's this expectation whether
535
00:20:15.665 --> 00:20:19.025
that be from the fan base or the family
536
00:20:19.485 --> 00:20:21.185
or the, the media
537
00:20:21.685 --> 00:20:24.465
or whatever that whatever accomplishments the older
538
00:20:24.465 --> 00:20:27.185
generation did, the younger generation should do,
539
00:20:27.325 --> 00:20:29.825
should at least match or do better than,
540
00:20:30.405 --> 00:20:32.545
and Marco not only had to deal with second generation,
541
00:20:32.765 --> 00:20:34.705
but he had to deal with third generation.
542
00:20:35.255 --> 00:20:38.105
Yeah. And, and like tears generation
543
00:20:38.455 --> 00:20:40.265
because of his uncles, you know?
544
00:20:40.315 --> 00:20:44.265
Right. So despite the advantages
545
00:20:44.265 --> 00:20:47.025
that he had in terms of coming up in a racing family
546
00:20:47.785 --> 00:20:50.285
and having the support of a grandfather
547
00:20:50.285 --> 00:20:52.205
and a father who were in the racing industry,
548
00:20:52.795 --> 00:20:54.285
like there's no free lunch.
549
00:20:54.945 --> 00:20:56.445
And there are a lot of challenges
550
00:20:56.995 --> 00:21:00.205
that I'm sure he could speak to, um, about
551
00:21:01.065 --> 00:21:02.245
why in some ways
552
00:21:02.245 --> 00:21:03.285
that probably made his career
553
00:21:03.745 --> 00:21:05.165
harder than it should have been.
554
00:21:05.515 --> 00:21:09.205
Yeah. Um, so I just, I think that he deserves a huge amount
555
00:21:09.205 --> 00:21:13.445
of praise for, for a being a professional race car driver
556
00:21:13.505 --> 00:21:15.725
for the better part of two dec two decades plus.
557
00:21:16.905 --> 00:21:19.725
Um, and also being able to go out on his own terms.
558
00:21:19.955 --> 00:21:21.885
Like, that's, that's pretty cool.
559
00:21:22.785 --> 00:21:25.045
That's very cool. And, and you're totally right.
560
00:21:25.405 --> 00:21:28.405
I mean that's, uh, that is a, that is a double-edged sword
561
00:21:28.945 --> 00:21:30.125
if there ever was one.
562
00:21:30.705 --> 00:21:33.645
And uh, yeah. He handled it, he handled it well.
563
00:21:33.785 --> 00:21:36.965
All things considered. 'cause that's some pretty big shoes
564
00:21:36.965 --> 00:21:39.925
to fill on the, uh, on the old edge ready family tree.
565
00:21:40.345 --> 00:21:41.805
But like you say, I mean two decades
566
00:21:41.945 --> 00:21:43.085
in the sport, that's huge.
567
00:21:44.285 --> 00:21:47.405
I, uh, yeah man, congratulations buddy.
568
00:21:47.675 --> 00:21:51.445
He's now gets to focus fully on being a dad
569
00:21:51.505 --> 00:21:53.445
and his other business ventures.
570
00:21:53.605 --> 00:21:54.925
'cause he is always been an,
571
00:21:54.925 --> 00:21:57.245
an entrepreneur in his spare time.
572
00:21:57.865 --> 00:22:00.685
And, uh, that's awesome. I'm very excited for him.
573
00:22:00.705 --> 00:22:01.805
Did you just text him right now? ?
574
00:22:02.315 --> 00:22:05.645
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same. I'll be texting. Do we
575
00:22:05.645 --> 00:22:06.645
All just, do we always do that
576
00:22:07.105 --> 00:22:08.685
Do we, do we just do this in a group chat?
577
00:22:09.345 --> 00:22:12.805
I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait till afterwards. Um, wow.
578
00:22:12.875 --> 00:22:14.525
Okay. So there you go. That's official.
579
00:22:14.865 --> 00:22:17.405
And congrats to our, our good friend Marco.
580
00:22:17.625 --> 00:22:20.285
On a tremendous IndyCar career. 20 Indy 500 starts.
581
00:22:20.305 --> 00:22:21.485
That's nuts. What are you
582
00:22:21.485 --> 00:22:22.725
At? I'm at nine. Tim,
583
00:22:22.745 --> 00:22:23.525
How about you? How
584
00:22:23.525 --> 00:22:24.725
Many have I, have I been to
?
585
00:22:25.985 --> 00:22:27.765
No, no, just asking anybody you've started.
586
00:22:28.305 --> 00:22:31.285
Oh. Um, um, you know who keeps track?
587
00:22:32.285 --> 00:22:33.325
I mean, most people who do 'em, ,
588
00:22:34.165 --> 00:22:35.605
you have a pretty accurate tally.
589
00:22:36.225 --> 00:22:39.805
Uh, James is really too short of what he should be here.
590
00:22:40.195 --> 00:22:43.805
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm the same as you, but I have Right.
591
00:22:43.905 --> 00:22:46.445
Two, two attempts that didn't go super well. Uh, .
592
00:22:47.025 --> 00:22:49.365
Why? What happened?
Well, one of 'em,
593
00:22:49.445 --> 00:22:51.245
I just didn't qualify Tim
594
00:22:51.785 --> 00:22:54.605
and the other one I nearly died. So one
595
00:22:54.605 --> 00:22:57.205
Of 'em, Tim, basically what happened is one of 'em,
596
00:22:57.205 --> 00:22:58.605
you forgot to turn the other one right?
597
00:22:58.605 --> 00:22:59.605
He forgot to stay flat.
598
00:23:00.045 --> 00:23:03.645
I forgot to go fast. . No, I was, I was flat. I was flat.
599
00:23:03.845 --> 00:23:07.885
I know, I know. It was, I I tried 11, qualified
600
00:23:07.885 --> 00:23:09.165
for 10, started nine.
601
00:23:09.315 --> 00:23:12.805
It's a weird stat. It's a weird, weird thing there.
602
00:23:12.845 --> 00:23:14.965
I mean, that's actually kind of, kind of cool. Yeah.
603
00:23:15.115 --> 00:23:16.205
There's more in there
604
00:23:16.305 --> 00:23:17.305
To have.
605
00:23:17.305 --> 00:23:18.645
Like if you got like eight top tens
606
00:23:18.745 --> 00:23:20.565
or like seven something, you know.
607
00:23:20.745 --> 00:23:22.325
Oh, like keep the, keep the thing going.
608
00:23:22.325 --> 00:23:23.485
Yeah. Yeah. I'd have to look into that
609
00:23:23.945 --> 00:23:24.945
One poll.
610
00:23:24.945 --> 00:23:26.205
Have to look into that. You know how that goes. Yeah.
611
00:23:26.225 --> 00:23:28.965
We know where it ends. Yeah. Um, some,
612
00:23:29.395 --> 00:23:31.005
It's, it's like, what is that Christmas song
613
00:23:31.005 --> 00:23:33.005
with the turtle doves and stuff? Uh,
614
00:23:33.005 --> 00:23:34.005
Yeah.
615
00:23:34.065 --> 00:23:36.245
12 days of 12 days and Christmas. 12 days.
616
00:23:36.625 --> 00:23:38.005
The 12 days of HCH racing.
617
00:23:38.585 --> 00:23:41.205
The 11 things of Hinch at Indy. So
618
00:23:41.745 --> 00:23:43.925
The what, when's the last time an Andretti
619
00:23:43.945 --> 00:23:45.205
hasn't raced in the Indy
620
00:23:45.205 --> 00:23:47.285
519 58?
621
00:23:47.755 --> 00:23:50.525
Yeah. Maybe me Bele will just carry on this year.
622
00:23:50.665 --> 00:23:52.685
Or Mira's got a really step upper game.
623
00:23:52.995 --> 00:23:55.565
Luca, we need Luca to, I mean, he is the right age.
624
00:23:55.585 --> 00:23:57.925
We need to get him in. That's a great question actually,
625
00:23:58.295 --> 00:24:01.765
Timbo, because it would've been before Michael,
626
00:24:01.985 --> 00:24:04.005
but when Mario was doing F1
627
00:24:04.005 --> 00:24:06.485
or something Right. When he was over there.
628
00:24:06.605 --> 00:24:08.445
I mean, we would, this is why we need
629
00:24:08.595 --> 00:24:10.765
some of your stats guys. Yeah.
630
00:24:11.035 --> 00:24:13.925
Like, it's gotta be, it's gotta be like, like seventies
631
00:24:14.505 --> 00:24:17.805
Marcos had such a, such a good track record at the 500.
632
00:24:18.605 --> 00:24:20.435
I mean even I was just thinking about that,
633
00:24:20.505 --> 00:24:23.795
that first one from oh six a few nights ago on
634
00:24:24.655 --> 00:24:26.745
what could have been there and just, I don't know.
635
00:24:26.745 --> 00:24:27.905
It's gonna be weird. It's
636
00:24:28.205 --> 00:24:29.745
Um, it's gonna be very weird
637
00:24:29.745 --> 00:24:33.155
because I don't know, it's Yeah, you're right.
638
00:24:33.215 --> 00:24:36.595
And Andretti has been a staple of
639
00:24:37.815 --> 00:24:39.475
the speedway for so long.
640
00:24:39.525 --> 00:24:43.365
It'll be interesting if he comes. I doubt it. But maybe
641
00:24:43.725 --> 00:24:45.685
I feel like I wouldn't if I were him. I don't
642
00:24:45.685 --> 00:24:46.685
Know. He's a pretty,
643
00:24:47.115 --> 00:24:48.645
He's a pretty
Savvy business guy,
644
00:24:48.665 --> 00:24:52.485
so I could see him being in some ambassador to role of,
645
00:24:52.585 --> 00:24:54.445
of some brand of doing something
646
00:24:54.505 --> 00:24:56.485
and like probably making more money doing
647
00:24:56.485 --> 00:24:58.925
that than he was driving the race car. Like
648
00:24:59.435 --> 00:25:01.645
Mario's better market thing to do. Yeah.
649
00:25:02.265 --> 00:25:04.605
But I also imagine there's gotta be a poll to like,
650
00:25:04.635 --> 00:25:07.045
just watch it from home, right?
651
00:25:07.105 --> 00:25:08.685
To just have that be the first time.
652
00:25:08.685 --> 00:25:10.965
The Indy 500 is a, is a normal day.
653
00:25:11.405 --> 00:25:14.965
I think if you were stepping away from the sport
654
00:25:15.385 --> 00:25:19.925
and we're kind of making the conscious decision to kind
655
00:25:19.925 --> 00:25:22.645
of really completely step away from the sport
656
00:25:22.745 --> 00:25:25.805
and really never go back to a track for any reason
657
00:25:25.945 --> 00:25:26.965
or have any connection,
658
00:25:27.555 --> 00:25:29.125
then yes, I've gotta understand that.
659
00:25:29.665 --> 00:25:32.405
But I, I don't know, I don't see that being the case.
660
00:25:32.445 --> 00:25:33.525
I don't see Marco being the kind of guy
661
00:25:33.525 --> 00:25:34.885
that's gonna start hanging around, you know,
662
00:25:35.185 --> 00:25:37.005
10 races a year or anything like that.
663
00:25:37.665 --> 00:25:39.805
But indie's different in India is special.
664
00:25:40.045 --> 00:25:41.045
I think to Alex's point,
665
00:25:41.045 --> 00:25:42.445
there's some opportunities for him there.
666
00:25:43.065 --> 00:25:47.675
Um, and I don't know man, like there's, there's,
667
00:25:48.135 --> 00:25:49.435
if, if he's made that decision,
668
00:25:49.705 --> 00:25:50.875
he's at peace with that decision.
669
00:25:51.435 --> 00:25:53.155
There'll be something cool about going
670
00:25:53.175 --> 00:25:55.875
and experiencing the Indie 500 without the pressure
671
00:25:55.875 --> 00:25:58.235
of being a driver or without the pressure
672
00:25:58.235 --> 00:25:59.555
of your dad being in the race.
673
00:25:59.825 --> 00:26:02.755
Like, he's literally never had that his entire life.
674
00:26:03.905 --> 00:26:06.195
He's either been in it or a family member's been in it.
675
00:26:06.335 --> 00:26:09.705
And so you might like, I can't wait for the day
676
00:26:09.705 --> 00:26:11.665
where I can just go sit in the turn one stands
677
00:26:11.805 --> 00:26:14.065
and drink beer and watch Danny 500.
678
00:26:14.095 --> 00:26:15.585
Like I think that would be awesome.
679
00:26:16.205 --> 00:26:20.265
Let me be your guide.
, maybe
680
00:26:20.265 --> 00:26:21.625
This is, I'll reach out to Mark.
681
00:26:21.625 --> 00:26:22.865
I'll be like, Hey, let me show you
682
00:26:22.885 --> 00:26:24.865
how it's properly done. , lemme
683
00:26:24.865 --> 00:26:27.505
Show you what the, the co lots like on Saturday night,
684
00:26:27.695 --> 00:26:29.305
what the snake pits like Sunday morning
685
00:26:29.805 --> 00:26:33.185
and how to get into numerous hospitality suites without
686
00:26:33.185 --> 00:26:34.545
being invited their beer.
687
00:26:34.545 --> 00:26:38.525
You have no business being in. Yeah. Um, yeah. Well, cool.
688
00:26:38.525 --> 00:26:40.525
We'll see. I, I mean I hope I, I hope he comes.
689
00:26:40.605 --> 00:26:41.805
I would love to see him there in May. I'd love to
690
00:26:41.865 --> 00:26:43.965
Get, he also announced
He's writing a book, so we got
691
00:26:43.965 --> 00:26:44.965
that to look forward to.
692
00:26:45.455 --> 00:26:47.885
There you go. That'll be a I can't, I can't wait for that.
693
00:26:48.135 --> 00:26:50.085
Can't wait. Can some stories in that? Wait, yeah.
694
00:26:50.185 --> 00:26:51.205
I'm actually gonna have to go through.
695
00:26:51.265 --> 00:26:53.325
I'm not gonna you to proofread that. Proofread that
696
00:26:53.325 --> 00:26:54.365
Before it goes out .
697
00:26:55.955 --> 00:26:57.045
Yeah. I think all of us
698
00:26:57.045 --> 00:26:58.245
Could be a little trouble on that one.
699
00:26:58.595 --> 00:27:02.965
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good days. Um, okay.
700
00:27:03.345 --> 00:27:07.085
So, uh, last, so racing stuff, now that we've covered fruit
701
00:27:07.505 --> 00:27:12.125
and retirements over the last 30 minutes, um,
702
00:27:12.705 --> 00:27:14.845
racing stuff, Alex did you, did you pay attention
703
00:27:14.845 --> 00:27:17.165
to the Mexico City Grand Prix at all?
704
00:27:17.405 --> 00:27:20.405
I watched, I watched all of it. I watched it all.
705
00:27:20.715 --> 00:27:24.535
Amazing. I think what I want to talk about is,
706
00:27:24.635 --> 00:27:25.655
so we can get to like
707
00:27:25.655 --> 00:27:26.895
what happened and who won and all that stuff.
708
00:27:27.075 --> 00:27:29.135
But I really wanna talk about all the corner cutting
709
00:27:29.955 --> 00:27:32.895
and what your opinion was on all that.
710
00:27:33.255 --> 00:27:35.735
'cause like turn one lap one, you had Maxus
711
00:27:36.705 --> 00:27:37.975
turns one, two, and three.
712
00:27:38.875 --> 00:27:41.095
You had Le Claire skip turn two
713
00:27:42.155 --> 00:27:45.215
and everybody came back on in places
714
00:27:46.315 --> 00:27:48.335
and there were no penalties
715
00:27:48.335 --> 00:27:51.255
or reordering assessed later in the race.
716
00:27:51.735 --> 00:27:53.895
Hamilton cuts a corner, a penalties assessed.
717
00:27:54.205 --> 00:27:57.855
What is your take on all said lawn mowing. Oh.
718
00:27:57.975 --> 00:27:59.495
And then actually for step, and did it again
719
00:27:59.665 --> 00:28:00.895
while racing Hamilton,
720
00:28:01.215 --> 00:28:05.255
A little relief that inconsistency exists
721
00:28:06.015 --> 00:28:09.655
seemingly in all forms of motor racing in terms of the
722
00:28:10.465 --> 00:28:12.775
stewarding and policing and rules making.
723
00:28:12.875 --> 00:28:16.055
And we've always said, we've always said it's a
724
00:28:16.055 --> 00:28:17.135
thankless job, right?
725
00:28:17.395 --> 00:28:19.895
Yes. And, and I do believe that, um,
726
00:28:20.915 --> 00:28:24.485
and I'm sure the FIA has their reasons, like you wouldn't,
727
00:28:24.485 --> 00:28:27.205
they're not making these decisions blindfolded
728
00:28:27.465 --> 00:28:29.525
and just pointing at something. It's not a lottery.
729
00:28:29.665 --> 00:28:31.205
I'm not throwing darts at a dartboard. Right.
730
00:28:31.625 --> 00:28:35.085
Um, does that mean I agree with it?
731
00:28:36.225 --> 00:28:38.365
No, but I, I
732
00:28:39.845 --> 00:28:41.245
I I don't know, I guess
733
00:28:41.845 --> 00:28:43.205
I disagree Break with this
734
00:28:43.205 --> 00:28:44.485
More if we, if we break it down.
735
00:28:45.205 --> 00:28:47.045
I, I disagree with the Lewis penalty.
736
00:28:47.885 --> 00:28:50.445
I just, that one seems a little bit,
737
00:28:51.105 --> 00:28:52.965
it just seems a little bit weird.
738
00:28:53.165 --> 00:28:54.725
Like again, we come back
739
00:28:54.725 --> 00:28:57.045
to the consistency factor of it, right?
740
00:28:57.235 --> 00:29:00.205
It's like if you're gonna penalize like the FIA
741
00:29:00.305 --> 00:29:01.445
and that Formula one is
742
00:29:01.445 --> 00:29:02.965
so uptight about track limits, right?
743
00:29:02.965 --> 00:29:05.005
Like we see it all the time in qualifying, like it's,
744
00:29:05.005 --> 00:29:06.645
you're a millimeter over a white line
745
00:29:06.645 --> 00:29:07.725
and it's a black and white rule.
746
00:29:07.785 --> 00:29:09.285
So fine. They, they enforce it
747
00:29:09.665 --> 00:29:11.805
and everyone knows that they're playing by that rule
748
00:29:12.585 --> 00:29:14.885
and you have to drive accordingly.
749
00:29:16.685 --> 00:29:18.255
They're pretty, they're pretty black
750
00:29:18.255 --> 00:29:20.415
and white about track limits in, in racing.
751
00:29:20.445 --> 00:29:24.095
They're pretty black and white about owning a corner, right?
752
00:29:24.245 --> 00:29:25.735
Even if you're the inside guy
753
00:29:25.735 --> 00:29:27.615
and you fire someone off, as long as you're
754
00:29:27.675 --> 00:29:29.495
by their front axle, like it's your corner
755
00:29:29.555 --> 00:29:32.575
and the other guy has to, has to let you by,
756
00:29:32.605 --> 00:29:34.215
even if it's a complete dive bomb.
757
00:29:34.315 --> 00:29:35.975
So again, they're black and white about it
758
00:29:36.035 --> 00:29:39.815
and I just, it's, it seemed like Mexico they weren't.
759
00:29:40.475 --> 00:29:42.605
And that's where the frustration comes in.
760
00:29:42.635 --> 00:29:44.685
It's not the the penalty or the lack of penalty.
761
00:29:44.835 --> 00:29:46.845
It's, it's why are some getting penalties and,
762
00:29:47.065 --> 00:29:50.685
and others not, I guess is my biggest complaint.
763
00:29:50.695 --> 00:29:53.285
Completely agree. I think when they tried to
764
00:29:54.035 --> 00:29:55.605
explain it mm-hmm .
765
00:29:56.585 --> 00:29:57.765
The prevailing thought was that,
766
00:29:57.985 --> 00:30:02.095
and the term, one thing, Tappin kind of went in and forth
767
00:30:02.435 --> 00:30:03.815
and kind of came out in fourth
768
00:30:04.155 --> 00:30:05.155
Mm-hmm .
769
00:30:05.515 --> 00:30:07.215
So they said there was no advantage gained.
770
00:30:07.395 --> 00:30:09.695
The caveat being to George Russell's point,
771
00:30:09.755 --> 00:30:12.015
and this is a very IndyCar thing, Hey, the drivers
772
00:30:12.045 --> 00:30:14.495
that stayed on track should have some sort of benefit here.
773
00:30:14.845 --> 00:30:16.895
Because if you could just go in
774
00:30:16.895 --> 00:30:19.175
and forth launched on the outside,
775
00:30:19.875 --> 00:30:21.575
and if you, if it sticks, awesome,
776
00:30:21.675 --> 00:30:25.375
but if it doesn't, there's no penalty, there's no downside.
777
00:30:25.675 --> 00:30:27.655
Why aren't you just doing that every lap? Right? Right.
778
00:30:27.675 --> 00:30:30.055
Not every lap, but like every opportunity. Yes. Mm-hmm .
779
00:30:30.245 --> 00:30:32.135
Totally fair. And that part I agree with.
780
00:30:32.555 --> 00:30:34.415
So for the way that their rules are written,
781
00:30:34.765 --> 00:30:36.295
sure Max didn't get a penalty,
782
00:30:36.915 --> 00:30:39.295
but I can see why George thought he
783
00:30:39.295 --> 00:30:40.535
should and don't disagree.
784
00:30:41.355 --> 00:30:42.695
The Lewis one's a little different
785
00:30:42.695 --> 00:30:44.735
because the Lewis one, what he got a penalty
786
00:30:44.915 --> 00:30:46.895
for was leaving track and gaining an advantage.
787
00:30:47.395 --> 00:30:49.975
And because he went into the corner side by side
788
00:30:49.975 --> 00:30:53.895
with Max came outta the corner four seconds ahead of Max
789
00:30:54.635 --> 00:30:55.975
and didn't back up at all.
790
00:30:56.445 --> 00:30:59.175
They're like, well that's a lasting advantage.
791
00:30:59.595 --> 00:31:03.455
Now that advantage was exacerbated because he, George
792
00:31:03.795 --> 00:31:05.175
and Bearman all started racing
793
00:31:05.175 --> 00:31:06.415
each other through four and five.
794
00:31:06.595 --> 00:31:08.095
Had max just gone through by himself,
795
00:31:08.165 --> 00:31:09.535
that advantage wouldn't have been as big.
796
00:31:09.915 --> 00:31:12.255
And so like from the Ferrari pit stand, how are you supposed
797
00:31:12.255 --> 00:31:13.815
to look at that
798
00:31:14.015 --> 00:31:16.615
and be like, Hmm, if we back up
799
00:31:16.615 --> 00:31:18.015
to only being a second in front,
800
00:31:18.065 --> 00:31:20.495
maybe they won't do anything, but if we stay here they will.
801
00:31:20.495 --> 00:31:21.975
Like, it's really hard to know
802
00:31:21.975 --> 00:31:23.695
what the judgment call is gonna be there.
803
00:31:24.885 --> 00:31:28.835
And because there were others that didn't really
804
00:31:30.155 --> 00:31:34.885
have consequence, it seemed a little harsh that he got one,
805
00:31:35.225 --> 00:31:36.325
but I don't
806
00:31:36.325 --> 00:31:37.325
Know, like old.
807
00:31:37.345 --> 00:31:39.325
So, so like if we look at, if we look at the start
808
00:31:39.325 --> 00:31:40.925
of the race and the max penalty
809
00:31:41.265 --> 00:31:42.685
or the max instance,
810
00:31:44.125 --> 00:31:45.765
I don't think Max should have got a penalty for it.
811
00:31:46.105 --> 00:31:47.845
Um, because you know, he was,
812
00:31:48.285 --> 00:31:50.805
I I don't feel like he was trying to fire it.
813
00:31:51.625 --> 00:31:52.725
No, I agree around
814
00:31:52.725 --> 00:31:54.325
The outside, like he got pushed onto a curb.
815
00:31:54.345 --> 00:31:56.565
We all know how dirty Mexico City is offline.
816
00:31:57.145 --> 00:31:58.645
He locked up on, as soon
817
00:31:58.645 --> 00:32:00.405
as he got on the curb, he was three wide.
818
00:32:00.465 --> 00:32:03.165
He wasn't gonna crash out two cars by turning in.
819
00:32:03.465 --> 00:32:04.965
He wasn't getting the speed out of it.
820
00:32:04.985 --> 00:32:06.285
And he almost took it like the fact
821
00:32:06.285 --> 00:32:07.965
that he didn't crash is incredible.
822
00:32:08.115 --> 00:32:11.285
Have you seen unbelievable like the, the the a the onboard
823
00:32:11.285 --> 00:32:13.445
and the view from Mike turn three, like
824
00:32:13.445 --> 00:32:14.525
It's the onboard is insane.
825
00:32:14.735 --> 00:32:18.365
Incredible. So he definitely didn't do that on purpose.
826
00:32:19.225 --> 00:32:23.365
Um, and that is what you would deem a racing incident
827
00:32:23.415 --> 00:32:26.465
where I think I IndyCar
828
00:32:27.565 --> 00:32:30.505
did a really good job is when you look at the
829
00:32:30.665 --> 00:32:32.065
Portland situation, right?
830
00:32:32.065 --> 00:32:34.905
Mm-hmm . So for, for a lot of years Portland was uh,
831
00:32:34.905 --> 00:32:38.235
just a complete, as you know, James was a complete debacle
832
00:32:38.235 --> 00:32:41.965
and turn one lap one and Kyle Novac.
833
00:32:41.985 --> 00:32:43.805
And, and the stewards were sick and tired of it.
834
00:32:43.805 --> 00:32:45.645
Like it was, it was pathetic that we can't get
835
00:32:45.645 --> 00:32:47.565
through turn one every single year.
836
00:32:48.465 --> 00:32:51.445
And so what they did was they, they, they said
837
00:32:51.715 --> 00:32:56.525
that if you cut behind the turn two curb at
838
00:32:56.595 --> 00:32:59.405
that sequence in Portland on lap one,
839
00:33:00.225 --> 00:33:01.925
it doesn't matter if you were pushed there,
840
00:33:02.345 --> 00:33:03.925
it doesn't matter if it was an honest
841
00:33:03.955 --> 00:33:05.205
mistake that got you there.
842
00:33:05.345 --> 00:33:07.285
It does not matter how you ended up there.
843
00:33:07.505 --> 00:33:10.645
If you do not go left hand down
844
00:33:11.305 --> 00:33:14.565
and get through the chica barricade setup
845
00:33:14.625 --> 00:33:16.285
and rejoin the track that way,
846
00:33:16.585 --> 00:33:18.005
you are immediately going to the back.
847
00:33:18.745 --> 00:33:20.885
You have to treat that white line
848
00:33:20.885 --> 00:33:22.805
and that area behind the turn two curb
849
00:33:23.105 --> 00:33:25.445
as a wall end of discussion.
850
00:33:25.985 --> 00:33:27.405
And what happened from that point?
851
00:33:27.885 --> 00:33:29.205
Everyone played nice through there
852
00:33:29.425 --> 00:33:31.805
and it was all of the incidents went away
853
00:33:31.805 --> 00:33:34.365
and we've now gotten through Portland three years in a row
854
00:33:34.485 --> 00:33:36.725
through turn one essentially. So
855
00:33:37.235 --> 00:33:40.605
Must be nice
F so F1,
856
00:33:41.825 --> 00:33:43.765
I'm not saying do you have to do that?
857
00:33:44.025 --> 00:33:46.125
You, you can't obviously do that for every track.
858
00:33:46.345 --> 00:33:48.645
But, but there needs to be something that's done
859
00:33:48.645 --> 00:33:50.325
because there are so many tracks
860
00:33:50.325 --> 00:33:52.365
with this massive amount of runoff.
861
00:33:52.365 --> 00:33:54.245
And this isn't, Mexico's not really an example
862
00:33:54.365 --> 00:33:55.565
'cause it's not like it's a paved runoff.
863
00:33:55.565 --> 00:33:56.925
Right. The fact, again, like we said,
864
00:33:56.925 --> 00:33:58.205
that Maxin crash is crazy.
865
00:33:58.705 --> 00:34:00.485
But I do think because a lot
866
00:34:00.485 --> 00:34:02.805
of the way their tracks are set up, there needs
867
00:34:02.805 --> 00:34:06.885
to be a more hard and fast rule like they have at Monza,
868
00:34:07.115 --> 00:34:09.925
like they have with track limits and qualifying that if you
869
00:34:10.445 --> 00:34:12.125
Montreal final, she came Montreal, they've
870
00:34:12.125 --> 00:34:13.125
Got that.
871
00:34:13.125 --> 00:34:14.205
If you, if cut a corner, you have, you have to,
872
00:34:14.465 --> 00:34:15.845
you have to go mm-hmm .
873
00:34:15.925 --> 00:34:19.045
And pay your penalty. So that way there's no speculation of
874
00:34:19.065 --> 00:34:21.285
how much of an advantage did he gain or did he not
875
00:34:21.285 --> 00:34:23.525
because they were fighting or he was going through the grass
876
00:34:23.665 --> 00:34:24.765
so he couldn't have gained that
877
00:34:24.765 --> 00:34:25.885
much and, and that sort of thing.
878
00:34:25.885 --> 00:34:28.245
It's just, it's rule it's done with everyone knows it
879
00:34:28.305 --> 00:34:31.005
and they play by it because if that's the case,
880
00:34:31.485 --> 00:34:34.805
I don't think Max puts his, again, max didn't intentionally
881
00:34:35.405 --> 00:34:36.525
ship it in there, go off for sure.
882
00:34:36.525 --> 00:34:38.645
I don't, I don't think he goes three wide there
883
00:34:38.705 --> 00:34:40.965
and exposes himself to that in the position he is in.
884
00:34:41.025 --> 00:34:43.805
He probably has to lift and stays in forth
885
00:34:44.225 --> 00:34:46.285
and tries to work his way through the two Ferraris.
886
00:34:46.285 --> 00:34:47.565
Through through the complex.
887
00:34:48.035 --> 00:34:51.605
Yeah. Or, or even if there was like gravel in that corner.
888
00:34:51.955 --> 00:34:53.005
Also true.
Also true.
889
00:34:53.005 --> 00:34:55.725
Like is that gonna make guys just behave better? Yeah.
890
00:34:55.905 --> 00:35:00.205
Um, either way Lando won it running away, which was
891
00:35:01.475 --> 00:35:04.875
a super impressive drive all weekend long qualifying the
892
00:35:04.875 --> 00:35:06.515
race just absolutely dominated.
893
00:35:06.815 --> 00:35:09.795
Now you're world championship leader, which is kind
894
00:35:09.795 --> 00:35:11.435
of cool when you think about the fact
895
00:35:11.435 --> 00:35:13.315
that he lost 18 points in Zan VT
896
00:35:13.315 --> 00:35:15.035
through something not of his own doing.
897
00:35:15.815 --> 00:35:18.915
Um, Oscar again had a bit of an off weekend,
898
00:35:18.935 --> 00:35:21.735
but I thought did a really good job in the race, kind
899
00:35:21.735 --> 00:35:23.815
of found his rhythm, found his groove a bit more, and,
900
00:35:23.995 --> 00:35:25.975
and got back up to fifth, nearly fourth.
901
00:35:26.115 --> 00:35:29.895
But Oliver Bearman hung on to fourth for his best finish
902
00:35:30.395 --> 00:35:32.695
of his career and a tied best finish for Haas,
903
00:35:32.695 --> 00:35:33.895
which was pretty freaking cool.
904
00:35:34.555 --> 00:35:37.605
Um, I mean he ran up in a podium spot for a long time there.
905
00:35:37.605 --> 00:35:39.445
It's just, you know, max got him at the end.
906
00:35:39.705 --> 00:35:42.285
Do you think that P'S kinda lost his edge
907
00:35:42.505 --> 00:35:45.495
and that it's Lambos to lose now?
908
00:35:45.875 --> 00:35:49.375
Or do you think he's just had two bad weekends
909
00:35:49.595 --> 00:35:51.855
and when we get to, I mean Brazil,
910
00:35:51.855 --> 00:35:55.255
he could blitz the field like he'd done at, you know, five
911
00:35:55.255 --> 00:35:56.255
or six tracks this year.
912
00:35:56.475 --> 00:35:57.375
No, I don't. Do you think it's
913
00:35:57.445 --> 00:35:59.255
substantial or do you think he's in his head?
914
00:35:59.495 --> 00:36:01.255
I I would find it hard to believe
915
00:36:02.175 --> 00:36:04.145
that Oscar would be flustered.
916
00:36:04.525 --> 00:36:06.625
Um, I think he was better
917
00:36:07.445 --> 00:36:10.545
at Coda than the result show.
918
00:36:11.545 --> 00:36:13.905
I think everyone's gonna lose to Max in Brazil.
919
00:36:15.005 --> 00:36:17.985
So I think really it's, it's Vegas
920
00:36:18.765 --> 00:36:23.505
and, um, guitar cutter, whatever you wanna call it,
921
00:36:23.995 --> 00:36:27.545
where Oscar's gonna have to, to show what he is made of.
922
00:36:27.565 --> 00:36:28.865
And, and I think those are tracks
923
00:36:28.865 --> 00:36:30.625
that should suit him very, very well.
924
00:36:31.365 --> 00:36:35.625
So I think tho that if, if he comes out of those two,
925
00:36:35.695 --> 00:36:38.185
like still missing a couple tens to Lando, then yeah,
926
00:36:38.365 --> 00:36:40.225
it was a, it was a mental breakdown,
927
00:36:40.225 --> 00:36:41.905
but I don't imagine that being the case.
928
00:36:42.285 --> 00:36:45.935
And then I guess the, the other way to look at it is,
929
00:36:46.275 --> 00:36:49.175
is he losing his edge or is Lando just really stepped it up
930
00:36:49.205 --> 00:36:51.775
because even in the first half of the year, a lot
931
00:36:51.775 --> 00:36:53.575
of people would argue that Lando was maybe
932
00:36:53.575 --> 00:36:54.775
that little bit quicker over
933
00:36:54.775 --> 00:36:56.095
overlap, but made more mistakes.
934
00:36:56.435 --> 00:36:58.735
So did Lando just sort his program out
935
00:36:59.155 --> 00:37:00.535
and now it's just harder to beat and
936
00:37:00.535 --> 00:37:02.695
because everybody else has developed their cars a little bit
937
00:37:02.695 --> 00:37:05.975
more than the McLaren there's just more cars in the mix now,
938
00:37:05.975 --> 00:37:07.375
so they're not just fighting over first
939
00:37:07.375 --> 00:37:08.895
and second anymore and Yeah,
940
00:37:09.095 --> 00:37:10.095
I don't know.
941
00:37:10.125 --> 00:37:11.255
It's tough to say. You know, it's,
942
00:37:11.495 --> 00:37:15.975
I was half say was expecting with how dominant Lando was in,
943
00:37:16.115 --> 00:37:18.295
in qualifying, I was half expecting him
944
00:37:18.295 --> 00:37:19.735
to bottle up a lap at some point.
945
00:37:20.795 --> 00:37:22.255
Um, and he never did. Yeah.
946
00:37:22.255 --> 00:37:23.815
Like that's, that's the thing, right? And was on
947
00:37:23.815 --> 00:37:25.295
Pull by like three tens. So yeah,
948
00:37:25.435 --> 00:37:26.435
That's a good chunk.
949
00:37:26.595 --> 00:37:29.455
He executed very well over, over the weekend.
950
00:37:30.025 --> 00:37:33.175
Maybe his best Grand Prix weekend total. I
951
00:37:33.175 --> 00:37:33.655
Agree. Yeah.
952
00:37:33.835 --> 00:37:35.175
Of his career for sure.
953
00:37:35.235 --> 00:37:37.335
And when you consider, we've said that already this year,
954
00:37:37.715 --> 00:37:39.615
it shows that he's still getting better. Yeah.
955
00:37:39.645 --> 00:37:41.135
Yeah. Good point. Good point.
956
00:37:41.615 --> 00:37:46.055
I still think, I still think, um, max is super alive in this
957
00:37:46.765 --> 00:37:49.775
because he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna win the sprint
958
00:37:50.275 --> 00:37:53.335
and the feature in Brazil, just book it.
959
00:37:53.335 --> 00:37:54.575
Very good chance. Like that's gonna happen.
960
00:37:55.045 --> 00:37:57.655
There's any weather, it's a done deal. Well,
961
00:37:57.655 --> 00:37:59.255
Even if there's not, like he's so good there.
962
00:37:59.315 --> 00:38:02.495
So then I, I imagine it's a 25 ish point
963
00:38:02.555 --> 00:38:03.855
gap with three to go.
964
00:38:04.245 --> 00:38:05.245
Like,
965
00:38:05.555 --> 00:38:08.335
And I think Vegas is gonna suit the Red Bull better than
966
00:38:08.335 --> 00:38:09.415
the McLaren Mm.
967
00:38:09.795 --> 00:38:12.495
Um, Qatar should be a McLaren one too.
968
00:38:12.495 --> 00:38:13.535
Well it seems like hands down,
969
00:38:13.535 --> 00:38:14.855
but any track that is in the
970
00:38:14.855 --> 00:38:16.775
United States of America, max just
971
00:38:16.955 --> 00:38:17.955
Max wins.
972
00:38:17.965 --> 00:38:20.615
Yeah,
So true. Yeah, he's good there.
973
00:38:20.715 --> 00:38:22.935
All right, so weekend off, we, we,
974
00:38:23.095 --> 00:38:25.535
I think we last spoke you were doing your testing,
975
00:38:25.715 --> 00:38:27.735
but the second day got canceled, right?
976
00:38:28.415 --> 00:38:30.895
Hmm. Do we, yeah. Interesting.
977
00:38:31.075 --> 00:38:33.655
Do we not go, do we not go over the damper stuff and,
978
00:38:33.795 --> 00:38:35.015
and all that sort of jazz?
979
00:38:35.645 --> 00:38:36.765
I don't think we did. Tammy, did we do that?
980
00:38:37.005 --> 00:38:39.325
I don't think we did. No, we did not. Okay.
981
00:38:39.755 --> 00:38:41.445
Well should we run through it quickly?
982
00:38:41.865 --> 00:38:42.925
Um, let's run through it quickly.
983
00:38:43.375 --> 00:38:46.165
Let's probably some fruit chat. He can trim down . Yeah.
984
00:38:46.585 --> 00:38:48.045
So absolutely not.
985
00:38:48.225 --> 00:38:52.045
So yes, IMS test I, the second day
986
00:38:53.385 --> 00:38:56.925
was really focused on the, uh, the spec damper
987
00:38:57.065 --> 00:38:58.925
or the idea of a spec damper.
988
00:38:59.065 --> 00:39:01.965
Um, the first day was spent going through breaks and,
989
00:39:01.965 --> 00:39:03.965
and we already talked about why that's, uh,
990
00:39:04.205 --> 00:39:05.245
a, a positive thing.
991
00:39:05.385 --> 00:39:07.925
Um, and seems like those are and worked.
992
00:39:07.975 --> 00:39:11.005
Those are, those are going ahead for 2026,
993
00:39:11.175 --> 00:39:12.245
which is great news.
994
00:39:12.545 --> 00:39:14.645
Um, the dampers are a project
995
00:39:15.025 --> 00:39:17.125
or an idea of a project for 2028.
996
00:39:17.985 --> 00:39:22.045
Um, there's a lot of conversation about it.
997
00:39:22.945 --> 00:39:27.845
People correctly assume that a series would want
998
00:39:27.845 --> 00:39:29.565
to go to a spec damper, um,
999
00:39:29.665 --> 00:39:32.005
to help alleviate some of the cost, right?
1000
00:39:32.005 --> 00:39:35.805
And while that is part of it, that is not the main reason.
1001
00:39:36.225 --> 00:39:39.925
Um, so the, uh, the new car, obviously there's,
1002
00:39:39.925 --> 00:39:44.165
there's a huge push, um, from everyone, um, drivers, fans,
1003
00:39:44.865 --> 00:39:47.205
the series itself, uh, to reduce the weight of it.
1004
00:39:48.275 --> 00:39:51.135
And, um, custom dampers,
1005
00:39:51.145 --> 00:39:54.135
especially street course dampers weigh a lot, you know, all
1006
00:39:54.135 --> 00:39:57.375
of the, the, the inverter technology and,
1007
00:39:57.435 --> 00:39:59.735
and everything that goes into these dampers all attached
1008
00:39:59.735 --> 00:40:02.775
to them because they're open and unlimited.
1009
00:40:02.775 --> 00:40:06.655
They're just, they just add componentry and stuff and things
1010
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and, and they end up being pretty heavy.
1011
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Um, so there was an idea that it would be a pretty
1012
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decent win-win, um, to reduce cost
1013
00:40:17.275 --> 00:40:20.495
and save weight as a, as a two twofer.
1014
00:40:20.955 --> 00:40:25.935
Um, if the dampers like a spec damper was up to the task.
1015
00:40:26.915 --> 00:40:29.495
And lemme just tell you James, um,
1016
00:40:29.645 --> 00:40:33.895
there's a reason why teams spend seven figures on a damper
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00:40:34.085 --> 00:40:37.055
program and it's been going on for the better part
1018
00:40:37.055 --> 00:40:40.135
of a decade and all of these things Yeah,
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00:40:40.135 --> 00:40:42.815
because you don't crash.
1020
00:40:43.005 --> 00:40:45.775
Like it's not, the car doesn't become undrivable. Yeah.
1021
00:40:45.795 --> 00:40:48.935
It doesn't become a a <inaudible> box.
1022
00:40:49.115 --> 00:40:52.975
It, it, it's all fine and it all works seemingly okay.
1023
00:40:53.555 --> 00:40:56.295
But there is a, there's a substantial lack of grip,
1024
00:40:56.875 --> 00:40:58.735
or I should say a grip reduction.
1025
00:40:59.115 --> 00:41:02.575
And if you're feeling that, um,
1026
00:41:02.955 --> 00:41:05.895
on a 51 degree day, which is what we were having
1027
00:41:06.235 --> 00:41:10.575
by yourself at Max Downforce, like that's a pretty grave
1028
00:41:10.635 --> 00:41:13.095
and extreme problem coming to the month
1029
00:41:13.095 --> 00:41:15.015
of May when you're in traffic.
1030
00:41:15.355 --> 00:41:17.695
And it's 82 degrees on Memorial Day
1031
00:41:17.695 --> 00:41:20.055
with 123 degree track tent.
1032
00:41:20.075 --> 00:41:24.575
So mm-hmm . Um, the spec damper project, while
1033
00:41:25.115 --> 00:41:29.295
not Impossible, is seemingly something that is
1034
00:41:30.875 --> 00:41:34.125
not incredibly viable, um, just
1035
00:41:34.125 --> 00:41:36.565
because of how far away
1036
00:41:37.195 --> 00:41:40.805
they are from the dampers that all the teams have developed
1037
00:41:41.025 --> 00:41:42.685
for this period of time.
1038
00:41:42.945 --> 00:41:45.965
And kind of like we discussed
1039
00:41:46.865 --> 00:41:49.565
on the last episode, like there is something to be said
1040
00:41:49.585 --> 00:41:52.645
for not being a completely spec championship, right?
1041
00:41:52.675 --> 00:41:54.645
Yeah. And I think that's part of the allure
1042
00:41:55.105 --> 00:41:59.365
of IndyCar racing, um, to engineers and to designers
1043
00:41:59.365 --> 00:42:00.885
and to mechanics and that sort of thing.
1044
00:42:01.705 --> 00:42:05.885
And there isn't a huge push from the teams themselves
1045
00:42:05.985 --> 00:42:07.685
to like get rid of the damper program.
1046
00:42:07.905 --> 00:42:11.005
So this was more of a, the, the, the series is,
1047
00:42:11.065 --> 00:42:12.285
is doing their due diligence
1048
00:42:12.425 --> 00:42:15.885
and trying to look at all avenues to, to save costs,
1049
00:42:15.905 --> 00:42:17.525
reduce weight and all this sort of thing.
1050
00:42:17.525 --> 00:42:20.405
And then, so they're just trying to, to tick the boxes.
1051
00:42:20.505 --> 00:42:22.645
And the most important place obviously is
1052
00:42:23.345 --> 00:42:25.845
you would wanna make sure that Indy 500 is not
1053
00:42:26.485 --> 00:42:27.925
negatively impacted by that.
1054
00:42:28.505 --> 00:42:31.605
And I think that they learned a lot last week in terms of
1055
00:42:32.585 --> 00:42:36.805
it would be at least with the, the damper selections
1056
00:42:36.835 --> 00:42:39.005
that we had at the time last
1057
00:42:39.005 --> 00:42:40.365
week. So that's where we're at. So
1058
00:42:40.365 --> 00:42:43.605
Does, so does that mean they're going to keep trying?
1059
00:42:44.675 --> 00:42:46.045
Like it's rare you just try
1060
00:42:46.045 --> 00:42:47.285
something once and it doesn't work.
1061
00:42:47.285 --> 00:42:48.765
You're like, Hey, we're not gonna go any further. I
1062
00:42:48.765 --> 00:42:52.325
Don't speak for them, but it, it, I I it didn't seem like
1063
00:42:52.905 --> 00:42:54.685
Get them to
Pri it didn't seem
1064
00:42:54.685 --> 00:42:56.445
that anyone was surprised with the results.
1065
00:42:56.715 --> 00:42:59.165
It's not like people were like, oh my God, really?
1066
00:42:59.465 --> 00:43:00.765
It was like, yeah,
1067
00:43:01.115 --> 00:43:04.125
Because then the, the question kind of becomes if
1068
00:43:04.125 --> 00:43:05.405
to get it to the same grip level,
1069
00:43:05.665 --> 00:43:07.485
you've gotta add all the same stuff.
1070
00:43:08.055 --> 00:43:09.325
We're not actually saving any weight,
1071
00:43:09.325 --> 00:43:10.405
so what's the point? Correct,
1072
00:43:10.475 --> 00:43:11.475
Correct.
1073
00:43:11.475 --> 00:43:14.485
Right. So it, it was, they were, again,
1074
00:43:14.485 --> 00:43:15.765
going through the due diligence.
1075
00:43:16.105 --> 00:43:18.005
It didn't cost anything to do it.
1076
00:43:18.305 --> 00:43:21.805
Um, it was a safe test because me and Kuma both did it
1077
00:43:21.865 --> 00:43:24.285
and it wasn't diabolical and, and that sort of thing.
1078
00:43:24.285 --> 00:43:27.205
And, and, and him and I both blindly, like we, we joined
1079
00:43:28.065 --> 00:43:30.205
at the end of the day and had a group kind of debrief
1080
00:43:30.205 --> 00:43:32.485
and discussion with, with IndyCar and the,
1081
00:43:32.585 --> 00:43:35.165
and um, Olin, uh, the Damper company
1082
00:43:35.745 --> 00:43:37.125
and our respective engineers
1083
00:43:37.125 --> 00:43:39.605
and like without speaking to each other, everyone kind
1084
00:43:39.605 --> 00:43:40.685
of came to the same conclusion.
1085
00:43:40.705 --> 00:43:42.925
So it was, it was all very productive.
1086
00:43:43.185 --> 00:43:45.765
Um, and again, happy to be a part of it.
1087
00:43:46.475 --> 00:43:47.805
This is why we test and
I head
1088
00:43:47.805 --> 00:43:50.165
to Phoenix next week, so that should be cool.
1089
00:43:50.595 --> 00:43:51.685
Phoenix Tire Test,
1090
00:43:52.355 --> 00:43:55.885
Phoenix Tire Arrow and Arrow Test. Yeah,
1091
00:43:55.885 --> 00:43:58.245
That's gonna be very interesting. Very interesting
1092
00:43:58.615 --> 00:43:59.615
Slash important.
1093
00:44:00.475 --> 00:44:03.125
Getting ready for our NASCAR IndyCar
1094
00:44:03.125 --> 00:44:04.365
double header at Phoenix next year.
1095
00:44:04.985 --> 00:44:07.165
Yes sir.
Sure. Which is gonna be fun. Cool.
1096
00:44:07.275 --> 00:44:09.715
Okay, well good place to end.
1097
00:44:09.735 --> 00:44:10.875
But as you mentioned Phoenix,
1098
00:44:11.135 --> 00:44:13.475
and that leads to our NASCAR IndyCar double header.
1099
00:44:13.765 --> 00:44:17.435
Let's just casually mention that in absence
1100
00:44:17.435 --> 00:44:20.555
of an IndyCar race or an F1 race next weekend,
1101
00:44:21.245 --> 00:44:25.075
there is in fact the NASCAR championship decider at Phoenix.
1102
00:44:26.335 --> 00:44:29.155
Um, Hamlin, Briscoe, Larson, Byron,
1103
00:44:29.165 --> 00:44:30.835
those are your four that are going for it.
1104
00:44:31.945 --> 00:44:34.125
And I'm very curious to see how it all shakes out.
1105
00:44:34.285 --> 00:44:36.485
'cause I think Byron was the regular season champ.
1106
00:44:37.615 --> 00:44:40.045
Denny has won everything but a championship
1107
00:44:40.145 --> 00:44:43.125
and wants to shake that, you know, best driver,
1108
00:44:43.285 --> 00:44:44.605
a never win championship thing.
1109
00:44:44.605 --> 00:44:46.765
Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm . All while suing nascar.
1110
00:44:46.835 --> 00:44:48.965
Very interesting dynamic. Good for him.
1111
00:44:49.025 --> 00:44:51.365
Got Larson, who's done it, Briscoe, who's been strong.
1112
00:44:51.625 --> 00:44:55.085
So, uh, I'm gonna watch, I'm gonna watch that race because
1113
00:44:56.545 --> 00:44:58.485
I'm gonna be honest, I'm curious. I'm not. And, um,
1114
00:44:58.515 --> 00:44:59.965
Well, you're gonna be betting on, on, so I'm
1115
00:44:59.965 --> 00:45:01.205
All about the Breeder's Cup this weekend.
1116
00:45:01.995 --> 00:45:05.565
Yeah. So I will pay a lot of attention to that.
1117
00:45:05.825 --> 00:45:07.805
And you pay a lot of attention to nascar.
1118
00:45:07.905 --> 00:45:10.285
And then we will talk about it next week. Okay.
1119
00:45:10.435 --> 00:45:13.045
Well, let's text update each other as the weekend goes on
1120
00:45:13.785 --> 00:45:15.285
so that way we have some understanding
1121
00:45:15.285 --> 00:45:18.745
of each other's programs.
1122
00:45:18.805 --> 00:45:21.025
And that way we can discuss on the show.
1123
00:45:21.685 --> 00:45:25.065
And it's not just like two monologues of Yes. Beer Cup.
1124
00:45:25.085 --> 00:45:28.305
Go Phoenix. Go Tim. As usual.
1125
00:45:29.145 --> 00:45:30.935
He'll contribute next to nothing and
1126
00:45:30.935 --> 00:45:32.455
People will still complain that I talk too
1127
00:45:32.455 --> 00:45:33.455
much.
.
1128
00:45:36.245 --> 00:45:37.615
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1129
00:45:37.615 --> 00:45:39.175
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1130
00:45:39.175 --> 00:45:41.455
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00:45:41.835 --> 00:45:42.855
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