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<v Speaker 1>This is off track.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning. Hello</v>

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and welcome to another episode of Off Track

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with Hinch and Rossie.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you? The one that's late when I'm the one up</v>

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at 5:30 AM

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sorry.</v>

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Uh, have you been to the gym yet today?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just got back.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I feel like that's not</v>

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necessarily a factual statement? , do you even,

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<v Speaker 2>Do you even have a gym membership anymore? Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Still with Equinox</v>
<v Speaker 2>You pay a lot to not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Go.</v>

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When was, when was the last time you went to Equinox?

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<v Speaker 3>I went on Monday, so it's been</v>

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a bit, but I was there Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. It's not bad. I just feel, I just feel like</v>

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for a couple hundred dollars a month for the amount

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that you go, you could probably just do a Planet

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Fitness like nine nine. I

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<v Speaker 3>Try to go three times a week, at least.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. That's my fear. Yeah.</v>

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I, I retract my statement.

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I figured you hadn't been since you were

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done training for your marathon.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I, I, I don't work out or anything, you know. Oh,  .</v>

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It's smoothies and eucalyptus towels. Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. No,</v>
<v Speaker 3>Eucalypt. I go and work out towels.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>I do</v>
<v Speaker 3>Movies, eucalyptus towels.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You don't swim anymore though,</v>

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do you? You were a big swimmer for

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a while.</v>

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I'm, I'm not trying to get back into it. Hmm.

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I do thi I'm like, Alex, I pick up a hobby.

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I just don't do it as well as Alex does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Alex goes in like 10, 10, 10.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>What was your hobby? When was the last time you like</v>

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adjusted the water stuff on your pool?

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<v Speaker 2>It's all automated now, dude. We've been over this .</v>

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Um, it's also closed. It's not,

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<v Speaker 1>Is it not, dude, it's minus one out there right now.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It was 75 on Saturday.</v>
<v Speaker 1>It's minus one today.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was in it on Saturday,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>So that is good for you.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>It's getting close on Thursday.</v>

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Anyways,
<v Speaker 1>, um,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Tim, Tim, what are, I wanna know what your hobbies are</v>

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besides 3D printing. Oh, I had 3D

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<v Speaker 3>Even.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>You're not doing</v>
<v Speaker 3>Astronomy.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he does. Dude, I was at his house.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I shut Alex, I did a lot.</v>
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

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I was at his house for Halloween, a total

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of like 12 hours I think.

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And he, dude, we were driving to San Diego

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and he was printing &lt;inaudible&gt; from his phone. ,

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like he, it, the printer never stopped during the middle

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of the night when we were not in the house.

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He was printing, he was upset.

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He couldn't print something

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because he didn't have the right filament in.

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Mm-hmm . And it doesn't automatically change it.

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<v Speaker 3>Three. You printed that yesterday.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I dunno what that is.</v>

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He was, he was like, oh, do you want a,

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a little candle holder Halloween?

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A little Halloween like decoration thing.

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I was like, no, I don't. He was like, cool.

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It's coming right up. . So he's

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he is 3D printing everything. He

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<v Speaker 1>DD</v>
<v Speaker 2>Printed items for his house like</v>

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that are functional like a, like a dog leash holder.

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And there was

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something else that was actually dunk poop shoulder.

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No, that wasn't the cool one.

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There was a cool, there was actually something I was

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like, that's awesome.

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I forget what it was. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot.</v>

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There's a lot. I don't, there could be anything

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<v Speaker 2>In here.</v>

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You need print something for like your,

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your glassware or something. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Glassware? No, I don't think so. Oh, oh, no. Yeah.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have the storage. No, the storage. Yes.</v>

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He cre he 3D printed a a fridge organizer device.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I have the, I have the per cans,</v>

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but the shelf that I want to have 'em on,

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it's not tall enough for Perry a cans.

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So I designed a little like slot thing to hold them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually fairly impressive. That's</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Actually not, I'm not mad at that ,</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Even though you, you get it like next day on Amazon</v>

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for six point 99, it's still impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like 56 cents worth of filament to print it.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Yeah, once you get over the upfront investment ,</v>

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if you're gonna use it a lot, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm pretty well past that upfront investment.</v>

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How often this gets used.

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I printed a bunch of these little like pumpkin token things

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for Hazel's class for Halloween.

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Okay. They've articulated legs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Articulated legs. He says this,</v>

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<v Speaker 3>This little guy right there at the Christmas ornament</v>

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with his legs hanging over my bookshelf next

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to the caution sign.

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That's also 3D printed .

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It says caution don't approach before coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Tim Original. That is so lame.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't design that one. I found it</v>

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online. I thought it was funny. You

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<v Speaker 2>Want all of these things You I was gonna get in Cracker</v>

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Barrel
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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True. Um, I'm sorry. How many of these things do you design?

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I was just gonna say it's so a good amount.

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What you're designing them on what,

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like the software that comes with the machine? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Blender.</v>

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It's like a 3D, uh,

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like a 3D design software. So you build stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>3D.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Yeah. I didn't know how to use it.</v>

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I've just kind of been figuring it out.

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Lot of YouTube tutorials.

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I have that unfortunate belief in myself that like

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with a YouTube tutorial, I could do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, I'm with you on that. I also feel that way.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty good these days. I've, they're</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Shockingly oppressive on YouTube.</v>

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It is. It's amazing what you can learn off YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm. I feel like I wasted a lot of money on college.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't an interesting topic.</v>

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If you believe that, what are you

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gonna tell your daughter to do?

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<v Speaker 3>She's gotta go to USC</v>

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<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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Oh, not even just has to go to college.

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She has to go to USC specifically. Yeah. Got it.

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I feel like you still want your kid

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to have the college experience,

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even if it's not necessarily,

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I think there's a lot of life lessons.

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<v Speaker 3>I, I don't know. I I think,</v>

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I think we put too much emphasis on college.

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Like if she wants to go to a, if her idea a profession

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that doesn't require college, I'm all for it.

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Or a trade school or things like that.

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I think we put way too much of an emphasis on like, you have

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to go to college 'cause college is the thing that you do.

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Well that's everything. That's a lot easier said than done

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when it's your own kid.

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So there's some conflicting things

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there.
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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Yeah. I mean, you know, you've got two college

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<v Speaker 3>Dropouts. Your dad now</v>

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<v Speaker 1>On this, so. Oh, I don't</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Have to deal with that.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I</v>
<v Speaker 2>Finish college for 18 years. College.</v>

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College might not exist.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. , I was really banking</v>

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on like, affordability.

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Like, I was like either by the time Hazel gets old enough

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for college, like tuition's no longer gonna be a thing

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or it's just gonna be so laughably

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expensive that it doesn't count.

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But I was like really hoping it was gonna be the tuition's

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no longer a thing and it's looking

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like it's going the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Yeah. Super not gonna be what you said.</v>

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That's not gonna be a thing. Mm-hmm .

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Um, just, uh, you know, marry a Canadian,

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get her a Canadian passport

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and then she could go to school in Canada.

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I don't for Penn on the dollar. She

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<v Speaker 3>Could Canadian passport if I married a Canadian.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I feel like if she's your</v>

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kid, you could figure that out somehow.

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I did. Now Ben has that option, which is cool.

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Ben can go to a good school back, back home

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for pennies on the dollar.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey. Might be doing that.</v>

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Our college education system might be messed up,

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but at least our healthcare is

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too
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

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I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and brag about hours,

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so let's  let's, let's not go down that rabbit hole.

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Um, what, uh, what is, how is, how was everybody's weekend?

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How's everybody's weekend? Tim, what'd you get up to?

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You seem to be on a roll. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's, you know, it's 5 45 on a</v>

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Monday, so Yeah, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it, it just literally just ended for you.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Hazel speaking of her has a project where she</v>

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and some of her friends in class had to make like a boat out

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of styrofoam and stuff

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and they have to like launch it down a pool.

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She can't 3D print it. I know.

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They were like, we have to build a boat for science class.

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I was like on it. She's like,

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can't have any plastic. I was like, I'm

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out
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Good luck kid.

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<v Speaker 3>And so here,</v>
<v Speaker 1>YouTube's a great place to learn stuff. .</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Somehow my house became the one</v>

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where we all like got together on,

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on Saturday for her group project.

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And it's, I dunno if you guys have seen it's raining space.

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Yeah, exactly. It's, it's raining in LA so like,

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all the parents were like, well, I don't wanna drive.

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I'm just gonna hang here while the kids work on it.

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So we doubled the amount of people in my tiny ass apartment.

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Um, and I had told myself like, very sternly, I'm going

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to let Hazel and her friends figure this out on their own.

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If they ask for help, I'll help,

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but I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna be one of those dads

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that's like building the boat for them.

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We all became those dads

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that are like building the boat for 'em.

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And I gotta say, none of us know how to build a boat. Yeah.

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Like they would've been much better off without us.

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It's, it's rubber bands and popsicle sticks and styrofoam.

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And they were doing better before we got involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I once built a, in physics class in high school, we had</v>

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to build a car that was powered

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by gravity.

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Right. So essentially you had a weight,

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everybody got the same weight

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and you had to use that weight to propel the car.

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So it was some form of the weight drops,

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<v Speaker 3>A pine pulls</v>
<v Speaker 1>Derby, pull a string</v>

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and No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's on a flat surface.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.</v>
<v Speaker 1>So you release the weight, it, as it falls,</v>

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it pulls some string that you've wrapped around an axle and,

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and it's all about, it was all about

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how far you could go with it.

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Right. What distance you could get.

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So a big part of it was like making it light

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and making it roll free, like less mechanical friction so

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that I could go further on the same weight.

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And I gotta say, man, I really, I knocked

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that one outta the park 'cause I built

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a transmission for it.

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It had like, on the axle I had different sized like kind

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of sprocket type things and wrapped the string around it.

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So off the top it accelerated way faster.

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And then the last few, like polls, it was really small.

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And then I had it really just go

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and it was, it just rolled so free.

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It was beautiful.

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It's the only thing I did well in physics class.

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<v Speaker 3>So you just needed more, more classes to be about cars. I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Just, I just need more car related stuff.</v>

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and didn't, didn't actually fully appreciate

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that until later in life

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<v Speaker 3>In that chapter of the Great Gatsby.</v>

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What car was Gatsby

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driving?
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He was in a 36, uh, Deusenberg. It was,

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say it was a deusenberg.</v>

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I'm proud of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Okay. So it would've worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. This is actually, that's actually, wow.</v>

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I have a one track mind, no pun intended. .

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, uh, Alex, we, we saw each other on the weekend.

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We saw each other a couple times actually. Mm-hmm .

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You got me to go golfing kind of. Not really. Hmm.

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So Tim, you know how much I love golf, right? I have

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<v Speaker 3>A golfer, regular John Daly. Is that a golfer?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a golfer also has a drink named after him.</v>

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Yeah. I learned this this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't isn't that just an Arnold Palmer with vodka?</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Sure is. Sure is. Yeah. , which is John Daly. Yeah.</v>

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Yeah. . Um, no, so I don't like golf. I don't, I don't golf.

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And, and Alex was like, let's go golfing.

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I was like, okay, fine. It was a nice day.

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It was gonna be a nice day. A go golfing. I was a bachelor.

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Becky's, you know, outta town, just working.

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And the day before we're going golfing.

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I had a super old man moment. He, he

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<v Speaker 3>Pulled a Tim,</v>
<v Speaker 1>I pulled a Tim, you hurt your back.</v>

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I injured myself while sleeping. It was my neck.

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But yeah,  like four o'clock in the morning

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and you know, like, you wake up and you kinda just like,

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you tense every muscle just kinda get under stretch.

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As I was doing that, I looked over at the clock

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and I just heard the most obnoxious noise go in my neck.

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I'm like, huh. Oh my God. I was in so much pain, .

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I was in like, absolute agony.

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So like, I just, I just lay in bed

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for the next three hours like this

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until Becky's alarm goes off

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and then have to get her to the airport.

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I go see like my physio Mike, and he works on my neck.

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So the next day I, I was like,

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I probably shouldn't go golfing, should I?

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He was like, well, no, but movement is good.

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So I was like, all right. I'd already said I was gonna go.

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It's a nice day out. I was gonna go hang with my buddies

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and maybe I'll put, you know.

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So we go, Alex hosts us at his, at his country club.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm . Shut up.</v>
<v Speaker 1>At, at the club.</v>

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<v Speaker 3>Did did you wear your Marco Andretti shirt like</v>

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I did when I went there? ?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I did not.</v>
<v Speaker 3>He was so mad. .</v>

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<v Speaker 1>But did you know that you're not allowed</v>

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to wear hats there unless you've been a member

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for at least five years? . What?

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<v Speaker 3>That can't be real. That's not</v>

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<v Speaker 1>A real thing.</v>

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I had the same reaction at first.

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I was like, oh my God, I hate this.

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Oh, you're kidding. Okay.

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Okay.
<v Speaker 3>.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Alex did have me going on that one for a sec.</v>

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Anyway, so, so it was me, Alex, and Connor.

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We had a fourth friend who

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was supposed to come, but he didn't make it.

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And I basically decided to just, um, just chip and putt.

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'cause that wasn't like too much swinging.

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It wasn't gonna hurt too bad.

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So anytime we were chipping distance, I'd just throw a ball

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and I just drove the rest of the time.

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And it was great outside. It was beautiful on one hole.

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It was a short hole. And they were like, you know,

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hitting stone irons off, off

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<v Speaker 2>The tee box.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't bitch, what'd I bitch about?</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's too bumpy. Oh, where's the car path? Oh</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude.</v>

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Yes, I did complain about that. That's the same thing.

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You're, you're, you're, you're saying say three things,

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but it's the same issue that, yeah, that doesn't count.

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Anyway. Uh, so

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<v Speaker 2>I claim Pebble it has X, Y, Z. Yes.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Pebble has much better grounds.</v>

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I mean, it was, I don't even know why

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people play in other courses.

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It's insane. . So , so we get

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to this one hole and they're

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banging seven irons off a tee box.

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'cause it was like, what, 120 yard hole or something?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, no, don't make us look like a bunch of</v>

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wankers hitting a seven iron, 120 yards.

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It was like a, maybe, maybe it was longer than that.

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It was like 148.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. 48 fine. Sorry, I don't know. I don't speak golf.</v>

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And so he's like, Hey, this one's not even that far.

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You should just play it. And I was like, okay, fine.

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I'll play it. And so as we get up

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to the box, Alex goes to Connor.

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So our, our other buddy that did make it, he's a big, uh,

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consumer of Fireball.

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And so the golf cart just came, you know, he is a member

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of this, of the club also.

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And the golf cart just came prepped with a couple

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of Fireball shots in it.

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And, uh, I should

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<v Speaker 3>Start playing golf. Mm.</v>

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.</v>
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, you'd love golf with this guy.</v>

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So as we get up to the box, guy says the counter, he goes,

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Hey, if James beats us in this hole, we both have

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to do a shot of Fireball.

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And I was like, okay. Like I'm not gonna, I don't play golf

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and I haven't been to swing all day and I'm injured.

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So anyway, so I win the hole and I go to Alex

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and I was like, so buddy, where's your shot of Fireball?

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And he looks at me and he goes, James,

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I'm a father now I don't do shots. And he stormed

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out
<v Speaker 2>.</v>

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It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of, I just stand there like, what just happened?</v>

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I, you know what though?</v>

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Because that is, that is the one thing about parenting

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that nobody talks about The advantage you have.

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Do you know how many social gatherings I've been to

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that I didn't want to go to since Hazel was born?

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Zero. Because I have a built in Oh yeah.

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Perfect excuse for everything now. Mm-hmm .

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And I'm just glad Alex embraced that early.

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'cause you can get at any like,

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<v Speaker 2>No, so it's not, it's, it's the,</v>

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the very quick realization.

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And you always, I always admired this about you, Tim, even

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before Ben existed was you were like, if I have Hazel

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or I'm going to have Hazel, like I'm not gonna drink

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because, well, why would I, sort of thing.

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Yeah. But then, but then the, the Stark reality,

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and I've messaged Hunter Ray about this, um, since then,

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like the stark reality of having to care for a child

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with any sort of hangover is horrible.

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'cause it's the worst thing for a child in the middle

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of the night sober is horrible.

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I mean, it's not, but it's hard.

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And so I just can't,

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I can't imagine coupling those two things together.

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So yeah. Great. Excuse smart.

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<v Speaker 1>It also makes sense why when we used to always, I used</v>

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to always go to that charity event that Ryan

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and Becky would host, uh, for racing for cancer.

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The kids weren't there the most years.

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And uh, let me tell you, Becky

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and Ryan were taking advantage of the fact

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that they probably normally don't drink

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because taking care of kids with a hangover sucks.

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Golfing with a hangover. Not a problem.

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Uh, coaching people in motor sports,

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evidently also not an issue for Ryan.

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Hungover did that a couple times. Um, yeah.

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You know, school, school series and then, oh, let's try.

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So, yeah. And then on Saturday we were supposed to go

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to the basketball game, but you had commitments otherwise.

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So mm-hmm . Connor and I went to the basketball game.

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Mm-hmm . And you know what, you know what was awesome about

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that night is, I think,

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and we were talking about this a little bit, I've,

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I've been traveling so much this year that one

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of the hardest things about being gone as much

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as I am is like, you lose touch with people, right?

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Like, you miss just going and interacting with your friends

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or like, you know, you can, you got our group chats and,

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and you stay in touch texting or whatever.

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But like, it is different when you're not there to go

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to things and see people in person or whatever.

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And so Connor

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and I are like, all right, let's meet at Prime for a drink

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before we go to the game.

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Okay, cool. So we go to Prime and there we see Bird

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and Bella and there we see Lauren and bi

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and uh, a few other people

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and it's just like, oh, like this is just

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where the community hangs out.

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And then at the game we ran into Christian Lard

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and Dev d Francesco and, and some people.

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And it was just like fun going out with one person

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and running into like 10 people that you knew.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean living your life in the, you live in I</v>

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<v Speaker 1>Don't, I don't get to do that very often, Alex.</v>

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Yeah, no. So it was a nice, it was a nice thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>Know.</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It was a nice</v>
<v Speaker 2>Thing. That's,</v>

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<v Speaker 1>It's</v>
<v Speaker 2>Sad.</v>

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That's why we No, it's just like you gotta,

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you take things for granted, right?

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Yeah. Like you don't realize, um, how nice things are

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until you don't have the opportunity to do it anymore.

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But listen, you're almost done. Almost done.

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I mean, you're not, but you are .

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<v Speaker 1>I just have like 24,000 miles</v>

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to fly and then I'll be done.

451
00:17:48.015 --> 00:17:50.645
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>And 20 more days on the</v>

452
00:17:50.645 --> 00:17:51.805
road, something like that.

453
00:17:52.145 --> 00:17:55.045
Why are you complaining? So, no, but it's so true. .

454
00:17:55.805 --> 00:17:56.845
It's so true. 'cause you're like,

455
00:17:56.965 --> 00:17:58.005
everyone's like, oh that's so cool.

456
00:17:58.005 --> 00:17:59.005
You travel so much for work

457
00:17:59.005 --> 00:18:00.005
and you get to go to all these cool

458
00:18:00.005 --> 00:18:00.965
places, blah, blah, blah.

459
00:18:01.505 --> 00:18:03.005
And yes, that is a hundred percent true.

460
00:18:03.005 --> 00:18:05.525
That is very accurate. But it's also super cool getting

461
00:18:05.525 --> 00:18:07.125
to like be home and hang out with your friends

462
00:18:07.305 --> 00:18:08.765
and see people and live in your house.

463
00:18:08.865 --> 00:18:10.165
And  not fall

464
00:18:10.165 --> 00:18:11.965
behind on everything that needs to be done here

465
00:18:12.905 --> 00:18:14.245
<v Speaker 2>And play golf. But not really.</v>

466
00:18:14.835 --> 00:18:16.765
<v Speaker 1>It's a balance. I am looking forward</v>

467
00:18:16.945 --> 00:18:18.605
to having a good neck again

468
00:18:18.745 --> 00:18:20.725
and then actually going and playing.

469
00:18:21.125 --> 00:18:22.845
Although then, oh yeah, I forgot. That was the other thing.

470
00:18:23.265 --> 00:18:28.015
So then the next day we played, we went back

471
00:18:28.015 --> 00:18:29.375
to the club,

472
00:18:30.175 --> 00:18:31.175
<v Speaker 2>I hate you</v>
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

473
00:18:32.395 --> 00:18:34.855
Hey man, if we're gonna, if we're gonna lay in a hunter ray,

474
00:18:34.945 --> 00:18:36.855
which by the way, can we just talk about

475
00:18:36.875 --> 00:18:39.495
how floored we were when we learned that he actually listens

476
00:18:39.495 --> 00:18:42.655
to this show frequently and knows how much shocking dude,

477
00:18:43.155 --> 00:18:46.935
the fact that we were calling him old as dirt

478
00:18:47.595 --> 00:18:50.975
and frequently mentioning his yacht without him,

479
00:18:51.125 --> 00:18:52.855
without knowing that he was listening.

480
00:18:52.855 --> 00:18:55.615
Yeah. That was just how we naturally behave about it. Yeah.

481
00:18:55.675 --> 00:18:57.895
Now that we know he listens  poor guy,

482
00:18:57.915 --> 00:18:59.095
it is gonna make this show.

483
00:18:59.245 --> 00:19:00.935
It's gonna get real bad. Anyways,

484
00:19:01.325 --> 00:19:02.655
were back at when his yacht

485
00:19:02.675 --> 00:19:04.575
<v Speaker 2>Butler tells him what we said this week.</v>

486
00:19:05.155 --> 00:19:07.575
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, . Oh yeah. 'cause he doesn't listen to the shows.</v>

487
00:19:07.675 --> 00:19:09.535
He has his butler write them out and

488
00:19:09.555 --> 00:19:11.015
and recite them back to him.

489
00:19:11.015 --> 00:19:13.615
Mm-hmm. While he's on the bow of the yacht, uh,

490
00:19:13.725 --> 00:19:15.175
sipping a cocktail.

491
00:19:15.795 --> 00:19:19.735
Um, but yes. So back at the club we uh,

492
00:19:20.835 --> 00:19:22.055
wanted to play Paddle.

493
00:19:23.225 --> 00:19:27.305
So I have to play Paddle in Abu Dhabi against

494
00:19:27.525 --> 00:19:30.945
to the William Shriners Ade Ade, whatever.

495
00:19:31.105 --> 00:19:32.305
I don't care. I'm not gonna call it that.

496
00:19:32.305 --> 00:19:33.505
That just sounds weird outta

497
00:19:33.765 --> 00:19:34.765
<v Speaker 2>My mouth.</v>

498
00:19:34.765 --> 00:19:35.065
Well, no, 'cause it's two different things.

499
00:19:36.165 --> 00:19:39.975
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So yes and no. Yes.</v>

500
00:19:40.495 --> 00:19:43.685
I mean, but no, what Okay.

501
00:19:44.115 --> 00:19:46.965
What we played on the weekend was not Paddle.

502
00:19:47.505 --> 00:19:48.685
And it was not Adele. No. It was

503
00:19:48.685 --> 00:19:49.685
<v Speaker 2>Paddle.</v>

504
00:19:49.685 --> 00:19:52.725
<v Speaker 1>No, it was not. It was not. Yes. So, no.</v>

505
00:19:53.265 --> 00:19:54.325
Let me, let me explain.

506
00:19:54.805 --> 00:19:56.285
I have a friend who is a like

507
00:19:56.605 --> 00:19:58.245
championship winning tennis player.

508
00:19:59.085 --> 00:20:00.565
Canadian kid. We went to high school together, Scott.

509
00:20:01.145 --> 00:20:04.405
And he is literally in the paddle business.

510
00:20:04.585 --> 00:20:07.765
He is a partner in, in a couple paddle facilities

511
00:20:08.145 --> 00:20:09.165
and one of them is in Vegas.

512
00:20:09.665 --> 00:20:11.805
So I reached out to him, I was like, Hey man, would love

513
00:20:11.805 --> 00:20:13.045
to play this week when we come out.

514
00:20:13.045 --> 00:20:16.405
Are you gonna be there? And so we started chatting

515
00:20:16.405 --> 00:20:18.365
and I was like, yeah, I actually played this morning

516
00:20:18.705 --> 00:20:21.885
for the first time in indie at my buddy's club.

517
00:20:22.705 --> 00:20:24.205
And, but I was like, but it was weird

518
00:20:24.405 --> 00:20:26.005
'cause it had chain link fences instead

519
00:20:26.005 --> 00:20:27.245
of plexiglass walls or whatever.

520
00:20:27.245 --> 00:20:30.685
And he goes, oh yeah, that's called platform tennis.

521
00:20:32.165 --> 00:20:33.385
And he sends me a picture and it's

522
00:20:33.385 --> 00:20:34.545
exactly the same, it's the same floor.

523
00:20:34.855 --> 00:20:38.425
It's the chain link fences, it's the ball not paddle.

524
00:20:38.535 --> 00:20:39.865
It's called Platform Tennis.

525
00:20:41.025 --> 00:20:42.025
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Mm-hmm .</v>

526
00:20:42.105 --> 00:20:45.985
It's weird that the people that have four of these courts

527
00:20:46.005 --> 00:20:47.485
and built an entire facility

528
00:20:47.625 --> 00:20:50.445
around these four courts think it's paddle.

529
00:20:51.405 --> 00:20:52.765
<v Speaker 1>I think they probably did that</v>

530
00:20:52.765 --> 00:20:56.325
because no one on earth has ever heard of platform tennis.

531
00:20:57.025 --> 00:20:58.165
And so they're like, great point.

532
00:20:58.165 --> 00:20:59.845
Well we'll just call paddle. 'cause no one's gonna be like,

533
00:20:59.845 --> 00:21:01.245
oh, I wanna sign up for the platform.

534
00:21:01.245 --> 00:21:03.765
What the hell's platform? Who the was sitting there being

535
00:21:03.765 --> 00:21:04.805
like, you know

536
00:21:04.805 --> 00:21:07.565
what the world is missing another paddle sport

537
00:21:07.585 --> 00:21:10.005
that's somewhere in between tennis and pickleball

538
00:21:10.025 --> 00:21:12.085
and paddle, let's call it platform tennis

539
00:21:12.185 --> 00:21:14.805
and just, I don't know, change the ball on the surface. It

540
00:21:14.945 --> 00:21:15.945
<v Speaker 2>Too many.</v>

541
00:21:15.945 --> 00:21:16.845
It's also weird because it, there's no,

542
00:21:17.975 --> 00:21:19.965
aside from the scoring, there's absolutely

543
00:21:20.155 --> 00:21:22.735
zero net commonality.

544
00:21:23.555 --> 00:21:24.555
The net,

545
00:21:25.735 --> 00:21:27.135
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but the net's shorter and smaller.</v>

546
00:21:27.135 --> 00:21:28.295
Like it's actually nice just

547
00:21:28.395 --> 00:21:29.395
<v Speaker 2>The net, but net.</v>

548
00:21:29.395 --> 00:21:31.295
But the net's, the, the net's the same as paddle.

549
00:21:32.675 --> 00:21:35.095
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is true.</v>
<v Speaker 2>So it's weird.</v>

550
00:21:35.335 --> 00:21:36.375
'cause like it, it's not tennis.

551
00:21:36.645 --> 00:21:38.655
It's very far from tennis. Very

552
00:21:38.655 --> 00:21:39.655
<v Speaker 1>Far from tennis.</v>

553
00:21:40.255 --> 00:21:41.925
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's wh</v>
<v Speaker 1>I</v>

554
00:21:42.035 --> 00:21:46.045
<v Speaker 2>Mean it's more ping pong, it's more adult sized ping pong.</v>

555
00:21:46.755 --> 00:21:49.285
<v Speaker 1>Well it's, it's more like pickleball than tennis.</v>

556
00:21:49.675 --> 00:21:51.405
<v Speaker 2>Well, except you can't, no,</v>

557
00:21:51.405 --> 00:21:53.085
because you, when you play doubles,

558
00:21:53.085 --> 00:21:55.045
you have someone living at the net,

559
00:21:55.045 --> 00:21:56.445
whereas pickleball, that's not allowed.

560
00:21:56.675 --> 00:21:58.925
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean it could live just outside the kitchen's</v>

561
00:21:58.925 --> 00:22:01.525
<v Speaker 2>Quite, it's quite far away from pickleball. I don't know</v>

562
00:22:01.765 --> 00:22:03.405
<v Speaker 1>That's that's debatable either way.</v>

563
00:22:03.405 --> 00:22:06.085
There's too many racket sports that fall within,

564
00:22:06.195 --> 00:22:08.325
like if you do the Venn diagram of

565
00:22:09.005 --> 00:22:10.925
<v Speaker 2>Platform tennis, I guess is what we're gonna call it,</v>

566
00:22:11.065 --> 00:22:12.805
is awesome because it's a winter sport.

567
00:22:13.425 --> 00:22:16.365
You, it's like the only sport that involves a ball

568
00:22:16.995 --> 00:22:19.645
that you can play outside in Indiana when it's snowing

569
00:22:19.645 --> 00:22:22.125
because I ge I guess it's

570
00:22:22.125 --> 00:22:25.485
because it's on a platform under, maybe that's, maybe

571
00:22:25.485 --> 00:22:27.565
that was the whole point because this is a winter sport.

572
00:22:27.585 --> 00:22:29.085
The heat from it is designed to be a winters sport.

573
00:22:29.425 --> 00:22:33.765
The heat, the from underneath with these massive blowers.

574
00:22:33.765 --> 00:22:36.285
And so you can literally be playing when it's snowing

575
00:22:36.285 --> 00:22:40.565
outside and the surface is dry and you're warm. So

576
00:22:40.785 --> 00:22:42.565
<v Speaker 1>You know what that's a, is that where the heat comes from?</v>

577
00:22:42.635 --> 00:22:44.205
That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Mm-hmm .

578
00:22:44.285 --> 00:22:45.405
Because now the picture

579
00:22:45.405 --> 00:22:47.285
that the guy showed me, 'cause he was like, was it like this?

580
00:22:47.385 --> 00:22:50.485
And he sent me a picture and they're wearing pants,

581
00:22:50.555 --> 00:22:51.765
jackets, gloves and ts.

582
00:22:51.945 --> 00:22:54.605
So yeah, this is a winter sport. Didn't put that

583
00:22:54.725 --> 00:22:55.725
<v Speaker 2>Together. Winter sport. Yeah.</v>

584
00:22:55.755 --> 00:22:58.005
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Now it makes sense. Now I know why we needed</v>

585
00:22:58.325 --> 00:22:59.405
platform tennis so that tennis

586
00:22:59.405 --> 00:23:01.445
people could get play in the winter. There

587
00:23:01.445 --> 00:23:03.885
<v Speaker 2>You,</v>
<v Speaker 3>So episode titles gonna be platform</v>

588
00:23:03.885 --> 00:23:05.085
tennis aficionados,

589
00:23:05.885 --> 00:23:07.605
<v Speaker 1>Platform tennis aficionados.</v>

590
00:23:07.875 --> 00:23:08.885
Join us, won't you,

591
00:23:08.915 --> 00:23:11.525
<v Speaker 3>Because we're trying to get zero listeners this</v>

592
00:23:11.525 --> 00:23:12.525
week. ,
<v Speaker 1>.</v>

593
00:23:15.235 --> 00:23:16.765
Alex, what else did you do this weekend?

594
00:23:17.315 --> 00:23:21.085
<v Speaker 2>Nothing. I replaced a faucet in my kitchen.</v>

595
00:23:21.835 --> 00:23:22.685
<v Speaker 1>Nice, nice.</v>

596
00:23:23.045 --> 00:23:24.565
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't have done that while you were here,</v>

597
00:23:25.085 --> 00:23:26.085
<v Speaker 1>Replaced a faucet in his kitchen.</v>

598
00:23:26.085 --> 00:23:27.365
No, that would've been tough from California.

599
00:23:27.945 --> 00:23:31.165
<v Speaker 2>No, I would've been happy to if you had a faucet. It was</v>

600
00:23:31.165 --> 00:23:32.165
<v Speaker 3>Spray.</v>

601
00:23:32.165 --> 00:23:33.365
My faucet was spraying him when he was here.

602
00:23:34.245 --> 00:23:35.645
<v Speaker 2>Hmm. When I was doing his dishes. Timothy.</v>

603
00:23:36.505 --> 00:23:39.195
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. That was a nice thing about having Alex here is</v>

604
00:23:39.195 --> 00:23:41.955
like, usually if I have friends, they come over

605
00:23:41.955 --> 00:23:42.955
and they trash my place.

606
00:23:43.745 --> 00:23:46.125
Alex came over and I could just it up just,

607
00:23:46.165 --> 00:23:48.285
I woke up the next morning about an hour

608
00:23:48.285 --> 00:23:50.205
before we had to get up and I could just hear him doing

609
00:23:50.205 --> 00:23:51.965
dishes downstairs mm-hmm .

610
00:23:52.045 --> 00:23:53.405
And I was like, I'm not gonna get outta bed.

611
00:23:53.405 --> 00:23:54.965
But it's appreciated, you know?

612
00:23:54.995 --> 00:23:58.205
Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>. Yeah. One of the best guests at like a, at a,</v>

613
00:23:58.205 --> 00:24:00.005
at a party because he'll just come over to your house

614
00:24:00.065 --> 00:24:01.765
and immediately start cleaning dishes. My

615
00:24:01.765 --> 00:24:03.845
<v Speaker 3>Kitchen was cleaner than before he got there.</v>

616
00:24:04.035 --> 00:24:05.325
Yeah. Yeah. Which is not saying much.

617
00:24:05.865 --> 00:24:07.085
<v Speaker 1>No, that's a low bar. Because here's</v>

618
00:24:07.085 --> 00:24:09.085
<v Speaker 2>The thing, here's the thing, Tim, even though</v>

619
00:24:09.665 --> 00:24:12.085
we were leaving in an hour, I couldn't, I couldn't

620
00:24:12.615 --> 00:24:14.565
exist in that space for an hour. Yeah.

621
00:24:14.565 --> 00:24:16.165
<v Speaker 3>With that, with that there. Yeah.</v>

622
00:24:16.345 --> 00:24:17.445
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. I had to fix it.</v>

623
00:24:22.865 --> 00:24:24.805
<v Speaker 3>Is there, is there, was there any racing news</v>

624
00:24:24.945 --> 00:24:26.725
we can, we can go into? There's no,

625
00:24:27.155 --> 00:24:28.845
<v Speaker 1>Yeah,</v>
<v Speaker 2>No.</v>

626
00:24:29.515 --> 00:24:31.085
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah,</v>

627
00:24:31.265 --> 00:24:34.165
so IMSA was testing down Daytona couldn't

628
00:24:34.195 --> 00:24:35.285
help but notice you weren't there.

629
00:24:35.305 --> 00:24:36.565
So I'm assuming you're not playing

630
00:24:36.565 --> 00:24:37.645
on running the 24th this year.

631
00:24:37.985 --> 00:24:39.685
No, I mean actually to be fair, I wasn't there.

632
00:24:39.845 --> 00:24:41.325
I am planning to run the 24, so

633
00:24:41.325 --> 00:24:42.565
that's not a pretty good indicator.

634
00:24:42.985 --> 00:24:43.925
Uh, okay. I didn't see,

635
00:24:44.165 --> 00:24:45.285
I didn't see who was quick or anything.

636
00:24:45.525 --> 00:24:47.285
I was happy to see that Connor Zi got

637
00:24:47.285 --> 00:24:48.885
to test the Cadillac hypercar

638
00:24:49.215 --> 00:24:51.005
after the complete and utter bull.

639
00:24:51.315 --> 00:24:55.485
That was the FIA, not letting him run the WEC finale

640
00:24:55.485 --> 00:24:57.805
because he didn't have enough points or something

641
00:24:57.805 --> 00:25:00.645
because he quote unquote lost the Xfinity

642
00:25:00.645 --> 00:25:01.965
Championship in the last race.

643
00:25:02.805 --> 00:25:05.605
Absolute horse. But I'm glad he got to do

644
00:25:05.605 --> 00:25:07.085
that daytona's cooler than that track.

645
00:25:07.085 --> 00:25:09.645
Anyway. So hopefully he's in that, uh, that's fine.

646
00:25:10.095 --> 00:25:14.955
Louis Foster resigned with Ray Hall, which is interesting.

647
00:25:15.855 --> 00:25:18.355
<v Speaker 2>I'm confused.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Keep going. Yep. Keep going.</v>

648
00:25:18.745 --> 00:25:19.745
Keep saying that thought.

649
00:25:21.215 --> 00:25:24.195
<v Speaker 2>So you're saying he wasn't signed for 2026? No,</v>

650
00:25:24.535 --> 00:25:26.595
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't saying that he had another year.</v>

651
00:25:26.985 --> 00:25:29.035
They've already signed an extension

652
00:25:29.575 --> 00:25:32.235
to keep him there past 2026. Oh,

653
00:25:32.545 --> 00:25:33.675
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Why is that weird? Oh,</v>

654
00:25:33.675 --> 00:25:34.675
<v Speaker 3>Good for him.</v>

655
00:25:34.675 --> 00:25:37.075
<v Speaker 1>Good for him. I do find it weird</v>

656
00:25:37.905 --> 00:25:40.075
that there is this kind of trend

657
00:25:40.075 --> 00:25:41.995
because we've seen it in F1 a couple times

658
00:25:42.895 --> 00:25:46.355
and I feel like the Kirkwood situation was the same as well

659
00:25:46.355 --> 00:25:48.395
because Kyle announced his extension,

660
00:25:48.415 --> 00:25:50.115
but he had a contract through 26.

661
00:25:50.175 --> 00:25:52.235
I'm fairly certain it wasn't like he was a free

662
00:25:52.235 --> 00:25:53.315
agent at the end of this year.

663
00:25:54.965 --> 00:25:58.515
I'm, I'm fascinated by this, by this approach

664
00:25:58.615 --> 00:26:00.035
of resigning guys

665
00:26:00.175 --> 00:26:03.555
before their final year in their contract has even started

666
00:26:04.105 --> 00:26:05.515
<v Speaker 3>Will power would like a word ?</v>

667
00:26:09.785 --> 00:26:12.155
<v Speaker 1>It's, I don't know how I feel about it.</v>

668
00:26:12.295 --> 00:26:15.115
On one hand I get that if you think you're staring at a,

669
00:26:15.115 --> 00:26:16.195
like a, a super talent

670
00:26:16.195 --> 00:26:19.515
and you really don't wanna leave offering them an extension

671
00:26:19.655 --> 00:26:22.155
before they even have the chance to go, you know,

672
00:26:22.385 --> 00:26:25.355
test out the market and and see what else is out there.

673
00:26:26.155 --> 00:26:29.035
I get that from a driver's standpoint, man, a lot

674
00:26:29.035 --> 00:26:31.595
of drivers like that security, you know, having,

675
00:26:31.715 --> 00:26:33.435
having a contract in your pocket

676
00:26:33.455 --> 00:26:35.515
before you even enter a contract year

677
00:26:35.665 --> 00:26:39.915
because you could be having a great year the year before

678
00:26:40.695 --> 00:26:43.250
and life's good and you love the team, the team loves you

679
00:26:43.425 --> 00:26:46.645
and six races into your contract year for whatever reason.

680
00:26:47.305 --> 00:26:49.085
You've had a slump, you've been taken out,

681
00:26:49.085 --> 00:26:50.725
you've had mechanical issues, whatever.

682
00:26:50.725 --> 00:26:52.885
And you're sitting down there in 23rd and points

683
00:26:53.145 --> 00:26:55.685
and it's like, damn, this is not a good position to be in

684
00:26:55.745 --> 00:26:57.085
for a contract negotiation.

685
00:26:57.745 --> 00:27:00.805
So there's, there's definitely benefits on, on kind

686
00:27:00.805 --> 00:27:03.685
of both sides, but it just seems,

687
00:27:05.045 --> 00:27:06.455
most contracts that I had,

688
00:27:06.455 --> 00:27:09.815
and Alex you can chime in on yours, Tim, say nothing.

689
00:27:13.115 --> 00:27:14.545
You'd have, you'd have an option,

690
00:27:15.155 --> 00:27:16.985
you'd have a clause in the contract that says up

691
00:27:16.985 --> 00:27:19.345
to a certain point in the year of your contract here,

692
00:27:20.125 --> 00:27:22.185
you could not engage with other teams.

693
00:27:22.355 --> 00:27:25.785
Right. So you kind of had exclusive negotiating terms

694
00:27:26.055 --> 00:27:27.505
with the team you're currently with.

695
00:27:28.965 --> 00:27:31.705
So you couldn't go out and kind of play the field

696
00:27:31.725 --> 00:27:33.825
and see what was available past a certain date.

697
00:27:34.765 --> 00:27:36.905
So if your team, why wouldn't you at least wait to make sure

698
00:27:36.905 --> 00:27:38.905
that the driver is doing a good job

699
00:27:39.445 --> 00:27:40.585
in the first part of the year?

700
00:27:41.125 --> 00:27:42.425
Or, I don't know,

701
00:27:42.425 --> 00:27:44.385
unless you are really worried about losing them.

702
00:27:45.605 --> 00:27:46.825
<v Speaker 2>Um, I think you're missing</v>

703
00:27:47.505 --> 00:27:51.065
a potential possibility slash reason that I just please,

704
00:27:51.485 --> 00:27:52.545
it just clicked for me.

705
00:27:53.125 --> 00:27:56.905
Um, his primary drop light, um,

706
00:27:58.345 --> 00:28:00.145
re-upped their deal with RAHA

707
00:28:00.145 --> 00:28:02.025
and extended for like a multi-year deal.

708
00:28:02.365 --> 00:28:04.305
Mm-hmm . Like a week or two before that.

709
00:28:04.485 --> 00:28:07.945
So I wonder if drop light was like, we're only going

710
00:28:08.085 --> 00:28:10.545
to renew if Louis is in that car.

711
00:28:11.135 --> 00:28:12.665
<v Speaker 1>Good point. That is a good point.</v>

712
00:28:12.845 --> 00:28:15.385
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that's a, a scenario where</v>

713
00:28:16.745 --> 00:28:19.065
a team may have not gone down that road.

714
00:28:19.365 --> 00:28:22.225
Um, especially with someone like, don't get me wrong, Lou's

715
00:28:22.945 --> 00:28:24.745
probably very good and and will be great,

716
00:28:24.805 --> 00:28:28.575
but like his first year wasn't, I mean, it was, it was fine

717
00:28:28.795 --> 00:28:29.855
for a rookie sort of thing,

718
00:28:29.855 --> 00:28:32.735
but like, I don't know that it wouldn't necessarily be a,

719
00:28:32.735 --> 00:28:34.535
it's not like he won two races, right? It

720
00:28:34.535 --> 00:28:35.775
<v Speaker 1>It married it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.</v>

721
00:28:36.515 --> 00:28:38.055
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if they would've</v>

722
00:28:38.055 --> 00:28:39.735
otherwise made that decision

723
00:28:39.735 --> 00:28:43.255
unless the sponsor was like, Hey, we love them, we love RLL,

724
00:28:43.395 --> 00:28:47.135
we want to do this through 2020, whatever, lock 'em down

725
00:28:47.155 --> 00:28:49.255
and, and we're in sort of thing. So Yeah.

726
00:28:49.255 --> 00:28:51.855
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That's a good point. Valid argument.</v>

727
00:28:52.215 --> 00:28:54.295
I just, yeah. Excuse me.

728
00:28:54.475 --> 00:28:56.815
Red Bull did it with Max McLaren did it

729
00:28:56.815 --> 00:28:58.295
with both their guys at some point.

730
00:28:58.515 --> 00:29:00.335
And then of course you got, I always go back to

731
00:29:00.335 --> 00:29:02.695
that weird scenario where like, science knew he was leaving

732
00:29:02.955 --> 00:29:04.455
before the season even started.

733
00:29:04.845 --> 00:29:06.215
That was a sore one.

734
00:29:06.795 --> 00:29:09.015
<v Speaker 3>So I have a question about the exclusivity clause</v>

735
00:29:09.395 --> 00:29:12.575
and contract negotiations with, with drivers and stuff.

736
00:29:12.605 --> 00:29:16.055
Like, does it, does it go into any manner of, of discussion?

737
00:29:16.055 --> 00:29:17.615
Because I mean, like,

738
00:29:17.615 --> 00:29:20.415
would it be a violation if somebody's at the track and, uh,

739
00:29:20.555 --> 00:29:23.815
and a, a team principle just comes up

740
00:29:23.815 --> 00:29:24.975
and says along the lines of, Hey,

741
00:29:24.975 --> 00:29:26.935
when your exclusivity is up, you know, give us a call.

742
00:29:26.935 --> 00:29:28.255
We wanna have a chat about that.

743
00:29:28.285 --> 00:29:31.695
Like what, or is it like outline parameters of

744
00:29:31.695 --> 00:29:32.895
what you can and can't do?

745
00:29:33.035 --> 00:29:35.175
Or is it just kind of like a, I don't know,

746
00:29:35.175 --> 00:29:37.415
it just feels like that would be really hard to enforce.

747
00:29:37.885 --> 00:29:40.975
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's pretty broad. It's pretty broad. So yes.</v>

748
00:29:41.105 --> 00:29:43.165
If if Chip Cani casually walked by you

749
00:29:43.165 --> 00:29:46.805
and said, Hey, call me on June 1st, you know, that's fine.

750
00:29:47.265 --> 00:29:48.845
You just can't call 'em till June 1st.

751
00:29:49.515 --> 00:29:51.925
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.</v>
<v Speaker 1>Um, do people</v>

752
00:29:52.475 --> 00:29:55.405
have off the record conversations before those dates?

753
00:29:55.515 --> 00:29:58.125
Yeah, for sure. Like that's just, that's just part of it.

754
00:29:58.265 --> 00:30:00.285
But some of it, some of it is tied into,

755
00:30:00.285 --> 00:30:02.205
like the team might have the option.

756
00:30:02.265 --> 00:30:04.045
You might have an option year on your contract

757
00:30:04.425 --> 00:30:07.045
and the team has until x date to exercise it.

758
00:30:07.745 --> 00:30:09.005
And if they don't do that,

759
00:30:09.115 --> 00:30:11.605
then you can start negotiating with another team.

760
00:30:12.105 --> 00:30:13.325
If they do, there's, there's not a whole lot

761
00:30:13.325 --> 00:30:14.485
of point negotiating before that.

762
00:30:14.645 --> 00:30:16.165
'cause if they go down to the last day

763
00:30:16.165 --> 00:30:17.165
and then take that option,

764
00:30:17.165 --> 00:30:18.725
then you just kind of wasted all that time.

765
00:30:19.675 --> 00:30:22.245
It's, it's, every situation's a little different. But,

766
00:30:22.585 --> 00:30:24.645
<v Speaker 3>And then, um, on the, on the Louis Foster thing,</v>

767
00:30:24.665 --> 00:30:26.085
is there also something to be said

768
00:30:26.145 --> 00:30:29.325
for giving the driver the confidence of knowing like, Hey,

769
00:30:29.325 --> 00:30:33.565
you're not every one of these isn't a, uh, you know, make

770
00:30:33.565 --> 00:30:35.725
or break thing that could kill your, your career.

771
00:30:35.985 --> 00:30:38.645
We believe in developing you long term and we want to

772
00:30:38.705 --> 00:30:39.705
<v Speaker 1>100%.</v>

773
00:30:39.705 --> 00:30:42.085
Okay. 100%. And again, this is not a, it is not,

774
00:30:42.145 --> 00:30:43.405
I'm not saying Louis doesn't deserve it.

775
00:30:43.505 --> 00:30:45.205
I'm just this, I wasn't

776
00:30:45.205 --> 00:30:46.645
commenting so much even on that scenario

777
00:30:47.045 --> 00:30:48.045
<v Speaker 3>Specifically.</v>

778
00:30:48.045 --> 00:30:49.125
No, I was just talking about hypotheticals. Yeah. Yeah.

779
00:30:49.125 --> 00:30:51.325
And then what type of car was the chi Chitty bang bang.

780
00:30:51.405 --> 00:30:54.205
I wanna see how much your weird car knowledge, but I haven't

781
00:30:54.205 --> 00:30:55.205
<v Speaker 1>Seen that one.</v>

782
00:30:55.315 --> 00:30:58.565
<v Speaker 3>Damn. Okay.</v>
<v Speaker 1>But it was probably a mid sixties.</v>

783
00:30:59.555 --> 00:31:01.485
<v Speaker 2>What, uh, what was the cartel? It was domestic.</v>

784
00:31:01.555 --> 00:31:04.325
Luis drove off the cliff. I don't know that one either.

785
00:31:05.385 --> 00:31:07.045
<v Speaker 3>Really? I mean, you came out swinging</v>

786
00:31:07.355 --> 00:31:09.205
with the 36 twos Inberg. Well, like,

787
00:31:09.215 --> 00:31:10.245
<v Speaker 1>Gimme a, gimme a movie.</v>

788
00:31:10.355 --> 00:31:12.165
I've seen, like I know the story story of

789
00:31:12.395 --> 00:31:14.485
<v Speaker 2>Dumb and Louis even I've seen that.</v>

790
00:31:15.115 --> 00:31:16.205
Yeah. I haven't seen that.

791
00:31:16.205 --> 00:31:19.165
Wasn't it, wasn't it a, uh, Thunderbird? They've

792
00:31:19.165 --> 00:31:20.165
<v Speaker 3>Been a, I think it was,</v>

793
00:31:20.285 --> 00:31:21.365
I haven't seen that in a long time.

794
00:31:21.585 --> 00:31:22.885
And I'm not James with cars,

795
00:31:23.065 --> 00:31:25.565
so can't even tell you when the rotor's messed up.

796
00:31:27.065 --> 00:31:31.085
<v Speaker 1>as we've established. So, um, in a,</v>

797
00:31:31.225 --> 00:31:34.405
in an update on the Cadillac Formula One team,

798
00:31:34.665 --> 00:31:37.605
as America plans to take over Formula One, uh,

799
00:31:38.265 --> 00:31:41.245
CCO got back into a car for the first time since

800
00:31:41.985 --> 00:31:43.965
Abu Dhabi 2024, 2-year-old

801
00:31:44.245 --> 00:31:45.245
<v Speaker 2>Ferrari.</v>

802
00:31:45.245 --> 00:31:48.445
So how I understand, I guess why, well, may I don't,

803
00:31:48.605 --> 00:31:51.125
I don't actually, I don't understand any of that test.

804
00:31:51.425 --> 00:31:54.565
Um, a why did Cadillac wanna do it? Mm-hmm .

805
00:31:54.645 --> 00:31:56.525
And B, why did Ferrari

806
00:31:56.525 --> 00:32:01.005
<v Speaker 1>Let them, so Cadillac wanted to do it for, um, the sake</v>

807
00:32:01.145 --> 00:32:02.245
of getting all

808
00:32:02.245 --> 00:32:05.325
of the team working together operationally in like a kind

809
00:32:05.325 --> 00:32:07.045
of mock race weekend scenario.

810
00:32:07.865 --> 00:32:08.925
So it was less about,

811
00:32:09.225 --> 00:32:11.965
it was honestly less about Checko getting in the car as much

812
00:32:11.965 --> 00:32:15.285
as it was like for the first time having all these people

813
00:32:15.285 --> 00:32:19.475
that have never worked together at a racetrack, going

814
00:32:19.475 --> 00:32:20.475
through the processes

815
00:32:20.495 --> 00:32:22.835
and procedures of getting the car ready to go out,

816
00:32:22.945 --> 00:32:25.155
running the car when the car comes in, the pa like,

817
00:32:25.155 --> 00:32:26.755
just all that sort of stuff.

818
00:32:26.755 --> 00:32:30.515
That's super kind of basic and, and muscle memory.

819
00:32:30.615 --> 00:32:32.995
By the time you get to the first race, none

820
00:32:32.995 --> 00:32:34.835
of these people have worked together on an actual car

821
00:32:34.895 --> 00:32:36.075
at an actual track before.

822
00:32:36.535 --> 00:32:40.165
So it was more an exercise in, in kind of team building and,

823
00:32:40.305 --> 00:32:42.005
and ironing out some procedures

824
00:32:42.005 --> 00:32:43.805
and things like that on top of it.

825
00:32:43.995 --> 00:32:45.005
Geco was pretty quick.

826
00:32:45.145 --> 00:32:46.805
So, oh, why was Ada Ferri wanna do it?

827
00:32:47.205 --> 00:32:49.365
Ferrari's their engine partner. It's a 2-year-old car.

828
00:32:49.385 --> 00:32:51.245
The car's now relevant, the engines are relevant,

829
00:32:51.245 --> 00:32:52.725
the chassis are relevant, the arrows irrelevant.

830
00:32:52.725 --> 00:32:54.765
There's nothing relevant about that car, so why not?

831
00:32:54.945 --> 00:32:58.005
I'm sure they got paid for it. And so what,

832
00:32:58.065 --> 00:33:00.325
how does it hurt them to let them do it?

833
00:33:00.425 --> 00:33:02.365
But he was really quick. He was actually really quick.

834
00:33:02.865 --> 00:33:05.085
He was, he is at ELA

835
00:33:05.085 --> 00:33:06.805
and I wanna say he was like, yeah, but less,

836
00:33:07.225 --> 00:33:08.285
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean anything.</v>

837
00:33:08.425 --> 00:33:11.405
He was in a car that is not his. And of course he's quick.

838
00:33:11.405 --> 00:33:13.285
No, no, he's Sergio Perez. Like he's right.

839
00:33:13.525 --> 00:33:15.885
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just because he's literally driven nothing</v>

840
00:33:16.255 --> 00:33:18.125
since Abu Dhabi 2024.

841
00:33:18.125 --> 00:33:20.045
Like it's been almost a year since he's driven anything.

842
00:33:20.825 --> 00:33:23.405
And uh, yeah, got in and was quick right away. Yes.

843
00:33:23.445 --> 00:33:25.165
I know he's a professional and he should be able to do that.

844
00:33:25.435 --> 00:33:28.045
<v Speaker 2>Well no, but my, I guess it's like, who cares?</v>

845
00:33:28.045 --> 00:33:29.925
He is quick. 'cause it's not like that was a Cadillac.

846
00:33:30.465 --> 00:33:31.605
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't, I don't vehicle,</v>

847
00:33:31.715 --> 00:33:33.685
<v Speaker 2>It's just to make sure that he still know how to do it.</v>

848
00:33:33.685 --> 00:33:34.845
Winning Ferrari four mil, one cart.

849
00:33:34.845 --> 00:33:38.685
<v Speaker 1>Right. Okay. Yes. Fair. Uh, so that's, that's cool.</v>

850
00:33:38.685 --> 00:33:39.725
They've talk, he got

851
00:33:39.725 --> 00:33:42.005
<v Speaker 2>In a ha at je</v>
<v Speaker 1>He didn't</v>

852
00:33:42.655 --> 00:33:43.655
<v Speaker 2>Write to dry.</v>

853
00:33:43.895 --> 00:33:45.525
<v Speaker 1>Right. Like come on. That's a real challenge.</v>

854
00:33:45.635 --> 00:33:47.045
Like that's really obviously

855
00:33:47.225 --> 00:33:48.685
<v Speaker 2>Driver obviously was</v>
<v Speaker 1>Fast metal.</v>

856
00:33:49.395 --> 00:33:50.885
<v Speaker 2>Like what are we talking about? Okay.</v>

857
00:33:51.225 --> 00:33:53.445
<v Speaker 1>Um, and then the other thing, way to go Raman. ,</v>

858
00:33:54.785 --> 00:33:56.685
<v Speaker 2>He didn't drive in the</v>
<v Speaker 1>Dry. It didn't go dry. Yeah. .</v>

859
00:33:58.195 --> 00:33:59.645
Nice try though. Jackass.

860
00:34:00.145 --> 00:34:04.725
Um, you know, Alex, how have you read at all how Pelli is

861
00:34:04.865 --> 00:34:08.405
or F1 is considering mandating two stops?

862
00:34:09.085 --> 00:34:10.325
I have make the races more exciting.

863
00:34:12.325 --> 00:34:14.485
<v Speaker 2>PA page outta the old indie car book.</v>

864
00:34:15.355 --> 00:34:17.285
<v Speaker 1>Well that was like, that was champ car like</v>

865
00:34:17.285 --> 00:34:18.805
2002 or something.

866
00:34:18.805 --> 00:34:19.845
They tried to do that. Mm.

867
00:34:20.105 --> 00:34:21.765
It was like mandatory pit stop windows.

868
00:34:21.945 --> 00:34:25.045
So that way you couldn't just save fuel like you basically

869
00:34:25.045 --> 00:34:26.165
had could just push the whole time.

870
00:34:26.705 --> 00:34:29.205
Mm-hmm . Did not work, has not stuck.

871
00:34:29.745 --> 00:34:31.125
And as I've said

872
00:34:31.125 --> 00:34:33.445
before, quickest way to make sure you have multiple stops is

873
00:34:33.735 --> 00:34:34.845
bring back refueling,

874
00:34:34.865 --> 00:34:37.165
but whatever, I guess that's not gonna happen.

875
00:34:37.345 --> 00:34:38.285
So do you remember they did this and they

876
00:34:38.285 --> 00:34:38.885
wouldn't get to brag

877
00:34:38.885 --> 00:34:40.405
<v Speaker 2>About how fast their pit stops are?</v>

878
00:34:41.035 --> 00:34:44.005
<v Speaker 1>It's true. Do you remember they did this at Qatar in 2023</v>

879
00:34:44.005 --> 00:34:45.245
because there was concerns mm-hmm.

880
00:34:45.245 --> 00:34:47.325
Over the tires. Right. And so it was like they, they

881
00:34:48.315 --> 00:34:49.965
give a maximum stint length.

882
00:34:50.625 --> 00:34:52.445
<v Speaker 2>Hey, the old IndyCar book.</v>

883
00:34:52.895 --> 00:34:55.165
<v Speaker 1>Right. It ended up being a banger of a race.</v>

884
00:34:55.485 --> 00:34:56.845
'cause everybody was pushing 10 tens

885
00:34:56.865 --> 00:34:58.645
and it was super physical and it was really hard.

886
00:34:59.005 --> 00:35:00.245
Whatever, whatever. Well,

887
00:35:00.245 --> 00:35:01.405
they just announced they doing died.

888
00:35:01.755 --> 00:35:03.165
Yeah. They they almost died.

889
00:35:03.945 --> 00:35:07.285
Um, but they're doing it again in Qatar this year.

890
00:35:08.225 --> 00:35:11.085
And I'm super curious as to why,

891
00:35:11.995 --> 00:35:15.405
because they didn't do it in 2024.

892
00:35:16.505 --> 00:35:19.405
But all of a sudden this talk about mandatory two stops has

893
00:35:19.405 --> 00:35:21.005
come back up and there was a meeting about it

894
00:35:21.005 --> 00:35:22.685
with like the FYA world Council or whatever.

895
00:35:23.385 --> 00:35:24.845
And now all of a sudden we're going back

896
00:35:24.845 --> 00:35:26.205
to a track they were at last year

897
00:35:26.265 --> 00:35:28.445
and now there's concerns over the tires

898
00:35:28.585 --> 00:35:29.845
and so we're gonna do this again.

899
00:35:29.955 --> 00:35:32.405
They're not even positioning it as we're gonna try this

900
00:35:32.405 --> 00:35:34.045
as an experiment like they did in Monaco,

901
00:35:34.655 --> 00:35:35.725
which didn't work very well.

902
00:35:36.745 --> 00:35:37.755
And so now they're just,

903
00:35:37.835 --> 00:35:39.195
I feel like, I feel like we're being lied to.

904
00:35:39.835 --> 00:35:40.955
I feel like we're being lied to a little bit.

905
00:35:41.575 --> 00:35:44.235
<v Speaker 2>No, the FIA wouldn't lie about anything.</v>

906
00:35:44.735 --> 00:35:47.435
<v Speaker 1>The governing body of the sport would never do that. Yeah.</v>

907
00:35:47.545 --> 00:35:48.995
Just say you're doing an experiment.

908
00:35:48.995 --> 00:35:51.955
<v Speaker 2>Um, I think it's, I think any, any sort of mandate like</v>

909
00:35:51.955 --> 00:35:55.355
that, unless it is for a safety reason.

910
00:35:56.475 --> 00:36:01.395
IE IndyCar Texas 2000, whatever it was. 19. Yeah.

911
00:36:01.735 --> 00:36:05.355
Or Qatar 23 or whatever. Right?

912
00:36:05.385 --> 00:36:09.395
Like it's it's super dumb. It's super dumb. It's very dumb.

913
00:36:09.395 --> 00:36:12.955
Now IndyCar's approach that is going to happen

914
00:36:14.325 --> 00:36:18.285
this upcoming year, which I don't know if it's news yet,

915
00:36:18.385 --> 00:36:21.885
but I'm, I don't think I have to keep it a secret.

916
00:36:22.225 --> 00:36:26.285
Um, where they're gonna mandate that we have to run two sets

917
00:36:26.285 --> 00:36:27.605
of alternates on street courses.

918
00:36:28.145 --> 00:36:30.645
Um, I think it's because did last, didn't we try that

919
00:36:30.645 --> 00:36:31.645
<v Speaker 1>Somewhere?</v>

920
00:36:31.645 --> 00:36:34.685
<v Speaker 2>Well, we did it in DGP, um, GP. How's that?</v>

921
00:36:34.705 --> 00:36:35.885
Um, and

922
00:36:36.065 --> 00:36:40.765
but like where that wasn't that interesting was like the,

923
00:36:40.825 --> 00:36:43.165
the alternate tire is the preferred tire anyways.

924
00:36:43.425 --> 00:36:45.765
So it's like well yeah, duh.

925
00:36:45.795 --> 00:36:48.805
Like obviously yeah, we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna run more

926
00:36:48.805 --> 00:36:50.325
of those if we can anyways.

927
00:36:51.345 --> 00:36:52.725
But three courses

928
00:36:52.935 --> 00:36:56.645
where the alternate is super not the preferred tire, um,

929
00:36:57.605 --> 00:36:59.695
I think is interesting

930
00:36:59.895 --> 00:37:02.695
'cause you're not mandating an extra stop per se.

931
00:37:02.755 --> 00:37:07.535
You're just mandating that everyone runs the tire by design.

932
00:37:07.535 --> 00:37:08.615
Right? Right. Twice.

933
00:37:09.435 --> 00:37:13.335
Um, which will definitely ebb

934
00:37:13.335 --> 00:37:14.775
and flow the race quite a bit.

935
00:37:15.075 --> 00:37:16.495
Um, so yeah, I

936
00:37:16.495 --> 00:37:18.855
<v Speaker 1>Mean it changes, you know, you, you look at like St.</v>

937
00:37:18.855 --> 00:37:21.015
Pete, right? Where there was that first lap caution,

938
00:37:21.165 --> 00:37:23.575
half the guys that started on the alternates got off 'em

939
00:37:23.575 --> 00:37:25.335
and, and they could just run primaries the rest of the day.

940
00:37:25.335 --> 00:37:27.855
It sort of eliminated, you know, the alternate

941
00:37:27.925 --> 00:37:28.925
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.</v>

942
00:37:28.925 --> 00:37:29.655
<v Speaker 1>The, the alternate. It</v>

943
00:37:29.655 --> 00:37:31.055
eliminated the fun, the challenge of it.

944
00:37:31.235 --> 00:37:33.135
So now they're gonna have to do it the old fashioned way.

945
00:37:33.715 --> 00:37:35.895
And, uh, yeah. I don't hate that actually on the

946
00:37:35.895 --> 00:37:36.895
<v Speaker 2>Street circuit.</v>

947
00:37:36.895 --> 00:37:37.695
You, you still take 'em off on lap one,

948
00:37:37.715 --> 00:37:38.815
you just put 'em on again.

949
00:37:38.925 --> 00:37:40.615
Hopefully. Yeah. With one lap to go .

950
00:37:41.385 --> 00:37:42.975
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine it was a big enough caution</v>

951
00:37:42.975 --> 00:37:44.215
that people did two stops,

952
00:37:44.235 --> 00:37:46.655
did their mandatory two laps under caution and then,

953
00:37:47.695 --> 00:37:49.895
<v Speaker 2>I mean, ooh, last year it would've been,</v>

954
00:37:50.435 --> 00:37:51.935
<v Speaker 1>So do we have to put in like a,</v>

955
00:37:51.935 --> 00:37:53.415
it's gotta be two green flag laps.

956
00:37:54.995 --> 00:37:56.455
<v Speaker 2>Listen James, the, uh,</v>

957
00:37:56.475 --> 00:37:58.175
the off season drivers meeting is

958
00:37:58.175 --> 00:37:59.215
coming up here in a couple weeks.

959
00:37:59.215 --> 00:38:02.615
That's a very good point. Probably otherwise right?

960
00:38:03.035 --> 00:38:04.455
<v Speaker 1>And like you hate adding more</v>

961
00:38:04.655 --> 00:38:06.735
stipulations, but Yeah. Yeah.

962
00:38:06.735 --> 00:38:10.455
<v Speaker 2>Good, good. Probably</v>
<v Speaker 1>Like a good pile</v>

963
00:38:10.455 --> 00:38:11.575
up and you could easily do it.

964
00:38:11.875 --> 00:38:15.215
Mm-hmm. And that would be bad. That would be bad.

965
00:38:15.965 --> 00:38:19.775
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, well what else? Nothing.</v>

966
00:38:19.825 --> 00:38:22.455
Thankfully we have a race this weekend.

967
00:38:22.515 --> 00:38:23.775
We do. You're heading to Vegas? We

968
00:38:23.775 --> 00:38:24.775
<v Speaker 1>Do Heading to Vegas.</v>

969
00:38:25.295 --> 00:38:26.295
Connor's already there.

970
00:38:27.815 --> 00:38:30.455
<v Speaker 2>Connor. Hilarious story</v>
<v Speaker 1>Monday, by the</v>

971
00:38:30.455 --> 00:38:31.455
way,
<v Speaker 2>.</v>

972
00:38:31.485 --> 00:38:32.495
Hilarious story.

973
00:38:32.795 --> 00:38:36.975
Um, I'm not gonna share all of the details,

974
00:38:37.195 --> 00:38:39.275
but, uh, myself

975
00:38:39.615 --> 00:38:42.785
and our buddies in pa are, um,

976
00:38:44.125 --> 00:38:48.305
in a group chat and, uh, we were all talking about

977
00:38:49.205 --> 00:38:52.225
the football game last night, which was Lions versus Eagles.

978
00:38:53.725 --> 00:38:56.385
And, um, Connor was on flight out to Vegas,

979
00:38:56.605 --> 00:38:58.425
so he was texting and commenting

980
00:38:58.425 --> 00:38:59.425
and we were all kind

981
00:38:59.425 --> 00:39:01.105
of talking about the game as it was happening.

982
00:39:01.525 --> 00:39:04.825
But then slowly around nine o'clock I fell

983
00:39:04.825 --> 00:39:05.945
off the chat and went to bed.

984
00:39:06.555 --> 00:39:08.945
Looks like a couple of the other guys made it

985
00:39:08.945 --> 00:39:12.545
to 10 30, 10 50 sort of thing.

986
00:39:13.325 --> 00:39:17.585
And that was, that was the end until five 20 this morning

987
00:39:18.135 --> 00:39:20.785
when, uh, one of the buddies in PA was like,

988
00:39:20.785 --> 00:39:22.185
Eagles will win the Super Bowl again.

989
00:39:22.185 --> 00:39:23.345
Their defense is insane.

990
00:39:23.345 --> 00:39:25.545
They look like Denver when they won with Peyton Manning

991
00:39:27.435 --> 00:39:29.615
and immediately calling a response, guys,

992
00:39:30.365 --> 00:39:31.655
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, .

993
00:39:33.515 --> 00:39:35.615
And we're all coming to the realization

994
00:39:35.615 --> 00:39:37.855
that we're waking up to start a new day.

995
00:39:38.035 --> 00:39:39.895
And Connor hasn't gone to bed yet. Bed yet.

996
00:39:42.715 --> 00:39:44.655
So yes, Connor is living his best

997
00:39:44.655 --> 00:39:45.735
life out on the West coast,

998
00:39:46.555 --> 00:39:49.295
<v Speaker 1>Having a great time out in Las Vegas.</v>

999
00:39:49.885 --> 00:39:51.375
That is so funny. Oh yeah.

1000
00:39:51.395 --> 00:39:53.295
No, I'm, I'm having a great season in my two

1001
00:39:53.295 --> 00:39:54.975
fantasy football leagues. Um,

1002
00:39:55.255 --> 00:39:56.535
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're, you're, you're second</v>

1003
00:39:56.555 --> 00:39:57.775
to me, but that's okay

1004
00:39:58.755 --> 00:39:59.755
<v Speaker 1>For now.</v>

1005
00:39:59.755 --> 00:40:01.335
Yeah, for now. Mm. Uh, that's still great.

1006
00:40:01.575 --> 00:40:03.415
I mean, I'm, I'm basically money ballish.

1007
00:40:03.775 --> 00:40:05.255
I have no idea how to play fantasy football,

1008
00:40:05.315 --> 00:40:06.335
but I'm doing pretty well in both.

1009
00:40:06.875 --> 00:40:10.455
Uh, I'm confident I will not be last in either league,

1010
00:40:10.745 --> 00:40:12.575
which is important for me, Alex,

1011
00:40:13.045 --> 00:40:15.735
because as you mentioned year,

1012
00:40:15.735 --> 00:40:17.255
I've been a bachelor the last few days

1013
00:40:17.435 --> 00:40:19.015
and last year I was the worst.

1014
00:40:19.555 --> 00:40:21.335
And I don't know, I think, I don't know if we've talked

1015
00:40:21.335 --> 00:40:23.575
about this on the show or not, so I apologize if we're

1016
00:40:23.575 --> 00:40:27.575
repeating, but the punishment last year was

1017
00:40:28.375 --> 00:40:33.155
the last place had to watch an entire show

1018
00:40:34.325 --> 00:40:37.575
like a, a, a canceled television show every season

1019
00:40:37.595 --> 00:40:39.415
of a show, every episode of the show,

1020
00:40:39.835 --> 00:40:44.025
and then present a dissertation on said show

1021
00:40:44.025 --> 00:40:45.545
to the group mm-hmm .

1022
00:40:45.885 --> 00:40:50.345
And we decided this before deciding the show.

1023
00:40:50.445 --> 00:40:51.665
And then once the season ended,

1024
00:40:51.685 --> 00:40:55.025
and unfortunately I had lost a poll, went around,

1025
00:40:55.185 --> 00:40:56.745
a couple nominations came up from the group,

1026
00:40:56.745 --> 00:40:58.345
and a poll was thrown in the group chat,

1027
00:40:58.605 --> 00:41:02.465
and we landed on the Nanny with Fran Drescher.

1028
00:41:04.765 --> 00:41:08.785
Now, I'm gonna be honest, I sort of forgot this was a thing.

1029
00:41:09.325 --> 00:41:13.345
And in the approach to, uh, our draft for this year,

1030
00:41:13.885 --> 00:41:15.465
the Commish was like, so dude,

1031
00:41:15.465 --> 00:41:16.705
when are we getting our presentation?

1032
00:41:16.705 --> 00:41:19.745
And I was like, oh, , I forgot I had to do that.

1033
00:41:19.925 --> 00:41:22.385
That's a lot of, that's a lot of f Tim.

1034
00:41:22.385 --> 00:41:23.785
Did you know that TV shows used

1035
00:41:23.785 --> 00:41:25.305
to be 22 episodes a a season?

1036
00:41:25.505 --> 00:41:26.945
I know that you, I know that you did. Sure did.

1037
00:41:27.345 --> 00:41:28.385
<v Speaker 2>I sure did. But didn't they used</v>

1038
00:41:28.385 --> 00:41:30.425
to be like 18 minutes an episode? Well,

1039
00:41:30.425 --> 00:41:31.545
<v Speaker 1>They're kids 22 minutes.</v>

1040
00:41:31.655 --> 00:41:34.885
Yeah. Um, dude, there's, there's six seasons

1041
00:41:35.025 --> 00:41:36.725
and there's 22 episodes a season.

1042
00:41:36.745 --> 00:41:38.965
That's a lot of, that's a lot of Fran Drescher.

1043
00:41:39.035 --> 00:41:40.845
It's a lot of Fran should, so I

1044
00:41:40.905 --> 00:41:42.765
<v Speaker 3>You go back even older, they used to do more.</v>

1045
00:41:43.505 --> 00:41:44.805
<v Speaker 1>Do they really?</v>
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.</v>

1046
00:41:45.265 --> 00:41:46.845
Try and watch like Old Beat Witched.

1047
00:41:47.105 --> 00:41:48.245
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Um, it's good.</v>

1048
00:41:48.675 --> 00:41:51.245
Like I, I remember like friends was 20 something episodes a

1049
00:41:51.245 --> 00:41:52.245
season and stuff like that.

1050
00:41:52.745 --> 00:41:56.245
Anyway, so a couple weeks ago I had to start watching this.

1051
00:41:56.345 --> 00:41:58.605
And so on my flights, I've been downloading, like

1052
00:41:59.515 --> 00:42:00.845
I've been downloading your

1053
00:42:00.845 --> 00:42:02.485
<v Speaker 2>Seatmates must</v>
<v Speaker 1>Be so confused, dude.</v>

1054
00:42:02.625 --> 00:42:05.485
I'm sitting on the plane and  like what,

1055
00:42:05.515 --> 00:42:07.645
like we've talked about where you sometimes put on like a,

1056
00:42:07.765 --> 00:42:09.085
a graphic show, right?

1057
00:42:09.085 --> 00:42:10.805
Where it's like really murdery

1058
00:42:10.805 --> 00:42:13.325
or like, like an inappropriate sex or something

1059
00:42:13.325 --> 00:42:14.725
and you're on the plane like, oh, this is awkward.

1060
00:42:15.045 --> 00:42:16.525
I would rather that the people look over

1061
00:42:16.525 --> 00:42:19.125
and be like, this dude's voluntarily watching the Nanny.

1062
00:42:19.435 --> 00:42:20.805
What is happening over there?

1063
00:42:22.005 --> 00:42:24.845
I so in Becky's absence, I've been burning through,

1064
00:42:25.595 --> 00:42:29.005
I've already started writing my report, um, kind

1065
00:42:29.125 --> 00:42:30.325
of going season by season.

1066
00:42:30.745 --> 00:42:33.765
Mm-hmm. And I gotta tell you, man, it's, uh,

1067
00:42:35.225 --> 00:42:37.365
22 episodes is too many in a season.

1068
00:42:37.595 --> 00:42:40.285
It's, it's a lot. It's, it's a lot of So where are you at?

1069
00:42:40.285 --> 00:42:41.405
It's a lot of television at this point.

1070
00:42:42.705 --> 00:42:44.205
I'm in season five, so I've,

1071
00:42:44.265 --> 00:42:45.885
I'm like halfway through season five.

1072
00:42:46.265 --> 00:42:49.325
So I've got very close. So they, they kind of gave me the,

1073
00:42:49.425 --> 00:42:52.965
uh, they gave me the permission to get it done by the end

1074
00:42:52.965 --> 00:42:54.645
of this football season. So before,

1075
00:42:55.505 --> 00:42:57.885
<v Speaker 2>So is there any part of you that's kind of enjoying</v>

1076
00:42:57.885 --> 00:42:58.885
<v Speaker 1>It?</v>

1077
00:42:58.885 --> 00:43:00.365
There are moments, there's a couple characters

1078
00:43:00.365 --> 00:43:01.725
that are pretty jokes, if I'm honest.

1079
00:43:01.965 --> 00:43:04.405
I, I have laughed out loud a few times.

1080
00:43:04.755 --> 00:43:08.125
Like that's interesting. Ever. I know it's

1081
00:43:08.125 --> 00:43:10.045
<v Speaker 3>If you're on, on a plane and you're laughing at some</v>

1082
00:43:10.045 --> 00:43:11.165
zoo, what are that guy's

1083
00:43:11.325 --> 00:43:12.325
<v Speaker 1>Watching? .</v>

1084
00:43:13.745 --> 00:43:18.605
The the Sun is like, got this, this super dry snarky,

1085
00:43:18.605 --> 00:43:21.445
like he's a little prick, but he's hilarious. I love

1086
00:43:21.475 --> 00:43:22.725
<v Speaker 3>That he's, he's referring</v>

1087
00:43:22.725 --> 00:43:25.445
to characters like we have any memory of the Nanny .

1088
00:43:27.065 --> 00:43:28.845
So you maybe seen two episodes of Nick

1089
00:43:28.845 --> 00:43:31.565
and Knight when I just haven't turned the TV off in 1998.

1090
00:43:32.075 --> 00:43:36.165
<v Speaker 1>It's this, this well to-do family in New York who? Fra.</v>

1091
00:43:36.305 --> 00:43:37.885
Oh, I'm sorry. Accidentally becomes

1092
00:43:37.985 --> 00:43:38.985
<v Speaker 3>You.</v>

1093
00:43:38.985 --> 00:43:40.205
That, that for me caring. I don't Right.

1094
00:43:40.405 --> 00:43:42.605
I don't need to know anything about this show.

1095
00:43:42.995 --> 00:43:44.965
It's not gonna back my life in the least.

1096
00:43:45.555 --> 00:43:47.645
<v Speaker 1>Fine. I'll send you the report when I'm done,</v>

1097
00:43:47.825 --> 00:43:49.005
but no, yeah, there have been moments.

1098
00:43:49.005 --> 00:43:50.005
<v Speaker 3>No, you have to give it on off track.</v>

1099
00:43:50.705 --> 00:43:51.765
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, no.</v>

1100
00:43:52.185 --> 00:43:53.285
<v Speaker 2>So I just pulled it up.</v>

1101
00:43:54.125 --> 00:43:57.165
I mean, is 1993 Fran Dreher kind of hot?

1102
00:43:58.185 --> 00:44:00.365
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing, man, here's the thing.</v>

1103
00:44:01.025 --> 00:44:02.445
So normally in the show,

1104
00:44:02.505 --> 00:44:04.365
her hair's like eight feet tall, right?

1105
00:44:04.365 --> 00:44:06.605
Yeah. Like it's teased and, and hair sprayed Yeah.

1106
00:44:06.665 --> 00:44:08.965
To like be a solid two feet above her head.

1107
00:44:09.455 --> 00:44:13.045
Uhhuh  in one episode, she goes on like a fake date

1108
00:44:13.045 --> 00:44:14.685
with Eric Estrada from Chips.

1109
00:44:14.805 --> 00:44:16.965
I I, I won't get into the details. It's it's in the report.

1110
00:44:17.505 --> 00:44:19.445
Um, but so she has to wear the helmet

1111
00:44:19.545 --> 00:44:21.565
and when she takes the helmet off, her hair's just,

1112
00:44:21.595 --> 00:44:24.205
just looks like normal hair, just like down and whatever.

1113
00:44:24.385 --> 00:44:28.965
And I was like, oh man. Okay. Huh.

1114
00:44:29.315 --> 00:44:30.925
Okay friend. Mm-hmm . ,

1115
00:44:32.685 --> 00:44:34.725
<v Speaker 3>I</v>
<v Speaker 1>See you. Yeah. When, when, yeah.</v>

1116
00:44:34.725 --> 00:44:38.085
When she, when she laid off the, uh, the Aquanet it was, uh,

1117
00:44:38.585 --> 00:44:40.405
it was a different program, but

1118
00:44:41.315 --> 00:44:42.805
<v Speaker 3>It's, I'm disappointed</v>

1119
00:44:42.805 --> 00:44:44.725
that we didn't choose a war show hearing

1120
00:44:44.725 --> 00:44:45.925
all this, but uh, dude,

1121
00:44:46.035 --> 00:44:47.365
<v Speaker 1>It's the amount. Like</v>

1122
00:44:47.725 --> 00:44:49.085
<v Speaker 3>Anything that's going's gonna have that many</v>

1123
00:44:49.245 --> 00:44:50.725
seasons gotta be okay.

1124
00:44:51.625 --> 00:44:53.925
<v Speaker 1>That's a valid point, but Okay. For the time.</v>

1125
00:44:53.945 --> 00:44:55.085
That's the other thing too, right?

1126
00:44:55.195 --> 00:44:57.685
Like Becky and I over COVID went back

1127
00:44:57.685 --> 00:45:00.755
and watched the entire show of King of Queens great.

1128
00:45:00.755 --> 00:45:05.595
Show you, you really do pick up on the things

1129
00:45:05.595 --> 00:45:08.555
that are like super no longer appropriate to say on tv.

1130
00:45:08.705 --> 00:45:11.755
That was totally fine in like a family sitcom

1131
00:45:11.755 --> 00:45:12.795
in the nineties, first

1132
00:45:13.005 --> 00:45:14.475
<v Speaker 3>First episode of the Brady Bunch.</v>

1133
00:45:14.475 --> 00:45:16.355
They're like, she's like nervous about getting married.

1134
00:45:16.355 --> 00:45:18.035
It's like, yeah, why don't you take a tranquilizer ?

1135
00:45:21.335 --> 00:45:23.355
So yeah, we, we've come long way people don't realize.

1136
00:45:23.385 --> 00:45:24.755
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've come a long way. Um, um,</v>

1137
00:45:24.955 --> 00:45:27.355
<v Speaker 3>I have to go wake, wake up Hazel, and get her to school</v>

1138
00:45:27.355 --> 00:45:28.995
because it's how it about six 30.

1139
00:45:29.465 --> 00:45:32.035
Okay. Uh, so I gotta be the one to end this one.

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We'll get to Nashville next week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll definitely cover Nashville next week.</v>

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And, uh, recap Vegas and Nashville

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and whatever it is Tim decides to do on the weekend,

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