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This is off track,
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Guys.
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I have some pretty big news.
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Oh, do you gotta start the show now?
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I do on this one. Is
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It, is this better?
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Should I do that? Oh my God.
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It doesn't, it doesn't matter.
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I have some pretty big news. I found another hat
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that fits my giant head.
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And now since the last one, one
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Cowboy, is it Cowboy esque?
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Oh, did Mark Miles give you that?
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I, I was expecting when it said one size fits all.
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I think I even said something along the lines of, we'll see,
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you see, that does not apply.
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But, uh, happy to say this thing fits my giant noggin.
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What I wanna know is what
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that looks like on a normal person's head.
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It's gotta be giant.
I wanna know, is that
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what we're calling fits?
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Like, it, it looks like it's still, I
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Mean,
Is it just a hair?
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Arguably it fits, it fits much closer than anything else
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he is ever put on his head.
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Yeah, it's Do you
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Have that, that IMS hat nearby for a comparison?
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Please don't. Please don't put it on If you do.
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It's in the car. It's in the car.
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Yeah, you're right. It does fit better than
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any other hat that he's had.
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It's just, it's so tough. 'cause he is got such an unruly
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amount of hair on top of his head
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that, that fills up. And he
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Have a giant head too.
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Yeah. Oh no. It's, uh, the combination is just,
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it is bound to be exposed to the elements.
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Tim, you're just not meant to be wearing hats.
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Yeah. But, and, and I'm gonna take this off
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because I don't, I don't feel like wearing a hat right now,
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but I'm very happy that, uh,
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that I found something that fits.
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Good. I'm glad. Um, how do like TKs fit on you?
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Beanies as you would call them? Mm.
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I, I can't even think of the last time I've worn one.
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It would look just, it would look round
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and he couldn't have a knit one because then the hair would,
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Oh, I would just, yeah.
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And it would also just stretch
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and never come back to shape. Yeah. Um,
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I'd be okay if you guys wanted to gimme one to try on,
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just to see how it would fit.
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So like, have you ever been skiing? Yeah.
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Yeah.
Since, since your adulthood?
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Yeah. But I have enough hair
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that I don't really feel the need to wear a hat.
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So you literally, that,
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that thing on your head just keeps your head
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warm and you don't even wear a hat.
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It's pretty, it keeps me pretty warm. That's
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Incredible.
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You must wear helmet. I'm so jealous. Because
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That's not, there's offering much protection.
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Um,
I mean, there's probably a lot of cushion there.
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I mean, they, they make helmets that fit,
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like they do make ex like whoever's making the size charts
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for helmets is very separate from the person making
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size charts for hats.
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Interesting. Okay. Is that
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because an extra large helmet fits fine,
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but an extra large hat barely fits at all? I
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Think they just know that like a helmet
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really needs to fit.
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Mm. Like mm-hmm.
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They looked, looked at the market
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share for me and they're like,
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Yeah, like, like, like a race car helmet I've seen you in.
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Do you have a bicycle helmet by chance?
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No, but I also don't have a bike anymore because
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I could imagine, imagine
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Sit, it must sit like four inches above your head.
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So if you fell off your bike, it wouldn't actually,
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probably not hurt your hair, but not your
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You would have to fall like exactly 180 degrees upside down.
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Yeah. And land perfectly straight for it to really have any,
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Because like if you fell on your side
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or along your back, you'd be hose. Yeah.
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I had a bike in college
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and you know, US C's not in like the best neighborhood.
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And so like, I was very intense about keeping my bike locked
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up and I would run the bike lock through the front
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and back tire and spokes
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to make sure everything was gone. I
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Can see you doing this. Yeah. Say
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Somebody stole my bike seat
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and I was like, what are you getting out of this?
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Like, what's, what's your game here? And so then I was .
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I just said to myself like,
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I'm never gonna ride a bike again.
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Like that's just, that was the end of my bike career.
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But Tim, if you moved back
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to Indiana, you could have a bike.
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Hmm. Because I don't think people still bikes
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as often in Indiana.
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It's a,
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Now in Indiana.
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Yeah. That's like road biking.
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I don't think he's gonna get into like, proper road biking.
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Why? I bet he, I mean, listen, if you don't think
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a hat fits him, what happens when he puts on spandex? Mm.
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Again, I used to wear a lot of spandex in high school,
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rowing my
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Extracurricular activities.
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Oh. Not for like, just Thursdays
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Fun.
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Well, you know, when you go
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to the Rocky Horror Picture show midnight showing you wanna,
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you wanna go and think you gotta
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Dress the part.
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Yeah. And Anticip
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Don't do it.
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Wait, I feel like we've actually seen you in spandex when
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you dressed as Peter Pan or something for Halloween.
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I don't think I've ever dressed as Peter Pan
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For.
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Didn't you wear green leggings at some point? No,
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Those were green pants.
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I was, uh, I was shaggy from, from, uh,
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Scooby-Doo
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Oh my God. I thought those were like yoga pants.
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They were just pants. Just pants.
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Like regular,
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So apparently the people that do the hat size, you know,
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say people that do the pants. I,
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But the important thing here is patient
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Can't believe you did it. .
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There are kids that listen to this show,
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Tim, get your act together. What's wrong
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With the anticipation?
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No, it's just the entire show. The entire movie. Oh.
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Just always my parents let me watch Rocky Horror Picture
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Show when I was like six I think for the first time.
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And I gotta say that was not a good idea. Yeah.
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My mom did the same thing with deliverance.
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Oh yeah. That's a weird one.
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Yeah, I think we've talked
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about that with your mom actually. Yeah. But, uh,
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She stands by it.
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Yeah, I definitely, I didn't eat,
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I didn't eat meatloaf ever again.
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I'm on the fence on Jaws with Hazel
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because we live around the corner from the Academy Museum
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and they're doing this big Jaws exhibit
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that I really wanna go to, but she hadn't seen it yet.
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I'm like, I don't think it'd be too scary.
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But she's getting into surfing
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and I just feel like it could end badly.
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She's like a champion winning surfer.
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You know what award-winning, award-winning surfer? Yeah.
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At the one, the one camp.
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Hey, it's an award. How is everybody's weekend?
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Well, it was Kelly's birthday last weekend.
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It was,
And um, I was asking her for quite a few days
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leading up to her birthday, which was on a Sunday.
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Like, what do you want? What do you wanna do?
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What we can do anything. The world is ours.
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Let's do something.
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And she was always kind of like having an <inaudible>
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because a ben
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and it's hard to go do
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fun adult birthday things when you have a four month old.
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Right. Which is understandable. Um,
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Sorry, quick interjection.
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Is it hemming and hawing or humming and hawing?
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Hemming. I'm
Pretty sure it's hemming and hawing. Yeah.
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Yeah. That makes sense. But I'm just realizing
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as you said it, I'm like, oh wow.
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I've been saying humming I think my entire life.
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But hemming makes sense. I
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just, are you looking this up, Tim? Yeah.
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It's heming and high. Yeah.
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She finally, she finally, uh, decided
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what she wanted and it was a diner breakfast.
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And I was like, okay, well we could go
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to like, we could go to Westfield.
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There's a diner. I know. There we could go find something.
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Like I was thinking, um, that diner
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by the track in Speedway, um,
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the famous one, I'm forgetting it.
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Working man's friend. No, no, no. That's not a diner.
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Um, like for breakfast. Oh
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Yeah, yeah. Charlie Browns.
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Charlie Browns, yeah. Yeah.
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I was like, nah, that's not the vibe.
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And we decided to go to Cracker Barrel.
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Um, cracker Barrel's been forward facing in the news lately,
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and I wanted to see what the new stores were like.
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Um, 'cause I hadn't actually seen one in person.
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So we got our friend Steven and Laura and their baby,
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and we all went to Cracker Barrel.
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Let me tell you, the news does not depict reality.
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We got there and they were like, cool. 45 minute wait.
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Awesome. So we kind of hung out in the general store
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and then outside and everything and, and, and got seated.
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Um, and the new, the new stores are not nearly
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as, uh, far of a departure
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from the old ones as people were making it out to be.
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And we had a great breakfast.
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We just, I just, I, this is not, this is not an ad.
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We all had a great time. They serve Bloody Mary's now.
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So we all had some Buddy Mary's and some pancakes that's new
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and some biscuits and some bacon.
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And it was, it was almost like a restaurant,
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Brunner of sorts.
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And we did some shopping for some candy and we left.
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And so I just wanna say it was a great, she was,
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she left there being thrilled with her birthday.
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And I was like, that's also, I'm confused though.
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Be great for the bank account. How,
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How are you, how do they,
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aren't you like the Cracker Barrel guy?
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How do you have a 45 minute wait?
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Can't you just call up like Philip k Cracker
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Barrel and be like, yeah, yeah.
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Didn't they give you the Cracker Barrel black
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card and you could just Yeah.
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Swipe that and you get to go to the front line. Well,
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So Uncle Herschel, um,
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has been on an extended leave of absence.
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He's coming back Good.
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But he's been, he was demoted for a few days, so.
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Right. So, so I do have a question then about
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that whole forward facing news situation.
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Earlier. I thought they like went back on
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that stuff and so like, so,
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So they did, as you
Said, the stores are different.
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Well, they first went back on the logo
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and then they, a couple days ago announced
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that they were pausing all further renovations,
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But Okay.
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That wanted to do You went to one of the store Right.
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That had been renovated. Got it. But like Got it.
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Also, it's the same thing. Like it's the same.
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It, it's, it's just painted white really.
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It's like they slapped a fresh coat of paint on it.
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Like it's still, the walls are full of the stuff
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and the floors are still, the, the brick
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and the chairs are still rickety
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Most importantly.
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Mm-hmm. Did you play the Triangle game and did you Yes.
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Own Steven how to do it because you know how to do it?
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Um, Steven was, uh, Steven had a,
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a friend of ours opened a bar over the weekend.
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Um, so Steven was,
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his brain wasn't working at full capacity, so we'll Got it.
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We'll have to get him back at another time. Got
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Yeah. Fair. Well that sounds like a lovely way
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to spend a birthday breakfast brunch, brother.
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It was type thing. Yeah. Mm-hmm .
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Yeah. Tim, what'd you get up to?
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Oh, I went to the Oasis concert.
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I had to think about that for a little bit.
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How did you just forget that? How does that
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We don't record on Thursdays ever.
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I don't who can remember that far away?
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Third point. I just feel like most people that have been
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to the Oasis concert have been
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so excited about going to the Oasis concert.
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This feels a lot like someone had a ticket
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and you're like, yeah, right. I guess I'll go.
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No, I had, okay, so shockingly
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this wasn't my idea.
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Um, right. , so went to the Oasis concert, a lot of people,
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and I had gotten tickets a long time ago back when everybody
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thought there was no way that the tour would last this long.
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'cause apparently those brothers hate each other a lot.
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and Ken said, you know, don't get the floor seats.
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And I didn't even ask why.
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I was just like, yeah, no problem. And then we,
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we got there, we sat down and we're looking down and,
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and she goes, were here.
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Why? I said Not to get the floor seats. I go, no.
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She goes, oh, well I heard people throw cups
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of piss on the floor seats.
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And I was like, I'm sorry,
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you're gonna need to back all the way up.
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That's like a thing. And apparently it's like an Oasis thing
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and some British festival things
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where people will throw beer
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and if they run out of beer, they just pee in the cup
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and they just throw cups of piss over the crowd.
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And through the entirety of the show, there were just
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splashes of what I can only pray was beer
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just being thrown over this, the whole group of,
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of people on the, on the like floor section of the concert.
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So I looked it up afterwards.
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It's a thing, it seems like Liam Gallagher has had
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to come out and apologize to people
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for getting tea thrown on them.
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And uh, yeah,
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really glad I wasn't in the floor seats Cool.
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Concert. I knew three of their songs.
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Yeah. I was gonna say, I, I,
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I am a lukewarm Oasis fan at best.
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And I never got, I never understood the hype.
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Are you a piss warm Oasis fan?
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And I never got the hype of this comeback tour,
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but I, I get roughly like
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98 degrees.
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It wasn't my, like it was my air necessarily,
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so I shouldn't, but now I like them considerably less.
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Like I weigh way less.
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What
Song, what song did you know besides Wonderwall?
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Because I don't know, champagne
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Super Nova.
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Yeah, that's a good one.
What's the other one? What's
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So I guess I knew two songs.
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It was like, I, yeah.
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Okay. I could have used, honest to God,
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I could have used subtitles for when they were talking in
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between the songs though.
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Because whatever Engle variant
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of the English accent they have, it was incomprehensible.
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I didn't, I couldn't understand a word they were saying.
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Hmm. Interesting. And very
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Interest.
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They still seem like they hate each other.
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Yeah. But they love money. I think they love money. Yeah.
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They seem them making quite a bit of it.
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Yeah, that's, I think I looked it up.
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They're making 50 to a hundred billion
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dollars each on this tour.
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And I was like, there is, I can't think
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of a single person in the world.
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I wouldn't pretend to get along with No.
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For that amount of money. Yeah.
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I would do it for considerably less.
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There's a lot of people I don't like
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and I would hang out with them for six
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Months.
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I mean, we do it, we do it for less than
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that for free on this show.
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I was, I was gonna say the show, but yeah,
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We know, we know where you were over the weekend, James,
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but I don't wanna talk about that quite yet.
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I want to talk about where you just came from, the wedding
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that everyone in IndyCar was at. Sorry, Tim
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And I, I thought that's what you were referring to,
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not wanting to talk about yet.
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Um, yes. Yes. The wedding.
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So you say that there wasn't actually
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as many IndyCar people there as you think?
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Oh, we were just, we were just all congregated together.
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So all of like, we were all, you know,
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in each other's pictures
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and stuff, it seemed a little more concentrated.
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Uh, but no. Yes. Uh, Becky
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and I were over in Italy for the wedding of Marcus
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and Iris Erickson.
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Was that not, was that on a weekday?
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It was on, it was on a Monday. It was on a Monday. Right.
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Interesting. Um, I think partly
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because, so like, so it was in Italy, it was in, uh,
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like Lake Como
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and obviously that's pretty close to Monza,
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which was Italian Grand Prix weekend.
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And I think maybe it was so
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that people from his F1 group could come
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because they were in town. And
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That's kind of cool. That's
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Smart planning.
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Yeah. That's kind of cool. Smart planning.
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And I also like, let's call a spade a spade man.
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It's probably gonna save you a little bit
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of money doing a wedding on a Monday compared
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to like a Saturday in that kind of area. So
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mm-hmm
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I feel like if you're doing a Lake
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Como wedding, you're probably not
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Super worried about
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concerned with saving the money. Like Yeah,
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Totally fair.
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And yeah, it was, it was, it was lights.
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I mean that I've, I love Italy.
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I've said before, like I probably could have been born
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Italian and been just fine with it.
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Love the food, love the country, love the,
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the wine, love the cars.
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There's not much I don't like about Italy,
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but I'd never been to Lake Como.
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And man, what a part of the world. Holy crap.
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I get why Clooney lives there or has a place there
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or whatever it is he does there.
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So yeah, just remarkable. And so, yes, got to hang out
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with a bunch of our IndyCar friends, which was great.
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And it was a beautiful ceremony
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and it was a beautiful reception
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and it was beautiful, everything.
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Uh, and had a, had a heck of a time, man,
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wish I had had more time
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to just hang out in Como and, and enjoy.
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Um, but I had to jump on a plane.
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I left Becky over there, her dad came over to visit her
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'cause I'm going back over there.
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But I had to run to Montreal for a sponsor appearance
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for Canadian Tire for a couple of days.
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So I'm Montreal now. And then in
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Man,
A day or two I get back on a plane to Europe
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and go meet Becky and her dad. You
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Must, you must really, you must really love this sponsor.
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Dude. Canadian Tire is a terrific partner and I love them.
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But this was, this was the only date they could do, huh?
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Yeah. Yeah. It's a big like, conference for 'em.
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A big dealer conference for them. Okay. Okay.
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So, uh, tell me
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Big brownie points.
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Well, hey man, it's, you gotta do, it's the job.
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It's the job. So, uh, so yeah, have,
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uh, a few days here in Montreal.
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Montreal and then back to France.
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And then the whirlwind European adventure continues.
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'cause I will be gone for, I'll
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be on the, I think I, I dunno if I said this.
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I'm on the road for like a month.
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I left on September 5th I think.
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And I get home on October 6th,
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which means I had to check a bag.
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And Alex, I'm furious about it. Furious about it.
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Did you by chance,
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like buy a carry-on while you're over there
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and you can like travel out of the carry-on?
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I guess you don't have a really like a home base
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over there, so Probably not.
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Exactly. So I, I, that was my original plan,
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but then I realized I would've been leaving Becky
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to like carry my stuff on top of all her stuff around.
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Mm-hmm. And it's like she would have to go to like,
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on a plane and then on a train
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and it was a whole thing. Mm-hmm. So it wasn't worth it.
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So, and an automobile and Yeah.
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And then an automobile and the whole thing. Yeah.
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And John Candy would've been proud,
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but it would've been impractical and equally as chaotic.
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So I just, I just
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bit the bullet checked a bag, it showed up.
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So I was happy about that
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'cause it would've been bad otherwise.
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Um, but yes, the,
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the cool thing about having a wedding in Italy near Manza,
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the Monday after the Italian Grand Prix is
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What
Yet to go check out the Italian
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Grand Prix. Come on man.
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Oh. Oh, but you went there for work?
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No, I wasn't working that one. So because I was
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Gonna be, oh, I'm sorry.
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No, I was very Okay, got
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It.
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No, no, no. Even though I was in town
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and I did offer my services, they had a full roster
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and so I just got to, I got some passes from, uh,
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the kind people at Sparko
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and the kind people at Haas Formula one team and went
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and got just kind a hang out.
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You were just a fan, just a fan's. Great.
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Becky and I were just fangirling and um, it was great.
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It was great. I mean, we were there, you know, we were there
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with our friends, Dan and Cass who had some meetings
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to attend to during the day. So Becky and I just kind
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Of, why, what do they have going
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on
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They've got some stuff in the, that space happening I think.
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Hmm. And then, um, so yeah, I just got to kind of be a fan
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and catch up with some people and it's
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so weird being at a racetrack without a purpose. Mm-hmm.
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I,
It's really hard. Yeah.
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Well your purpose Tim, is to consume. Yeah.
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Just consume, you could have just ended to consume, right?
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Yeah. Did you go out to, like,
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did you just hang out in the paddock
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or did you go out to like corners
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and watch or what did you do?
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We, no, we mainly were paddock in in suite
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area type stuff.
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We didn't get to like too much. Just real
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High roller stuff.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie,
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it wasn't like the full Mazda experience,
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but there were reasons for that.
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But it's, you know, I would've loved
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to have gone out there a little bit, walk
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the old banking Right.
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Do all that, you know, kind of quintessentially Mazda stuff.
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But I guess I just have to go back and do that.
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Did you get to stay in town? At
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Least we stayed in, no, we stayed in
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Milan, um, which was beautiful.
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I'd also never been to Milan and that was great.
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Had some wicked meals as you do. 'cause that's just Italy.
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But, um, God, I do love the food there. So
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How was the race?
504
00:19:20.375 --> 00:19:21.945
Well, that's the thing. We are at the
505
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end of the day, a racing podcast.
506
00:19:23.365 --> 00:19:25.425
So while we've talked about our travels now,
507
00:19:25.585 --> 00:19:29.225
'cause we're all travel podcasts, um, Monza was, you know,
508
00:19:29.325 --> 00:19:30.945
by and large a fairly boring race.
509
00:19:31.365 --> 00:19:34.705
Uh, minus two things that were particularly notable.
510
00:19:35.105 --> 00:19:37.305
I wanna start with the, the old theme
511
00:19:37.485 --> 00:19:40.905
of the last couple years that's just returned is just the
512
00:19:41.425 --> 00:19:43.745
unbelievable ability of max for Steppen.
513
00:19:44.845 --> 00:19:49.245
That guy is just so good at what he does
514
00:19:49.985 --> 00:19:52.725
and the fact that he qualified on Pole, the fact
515
00:19:52.725 --> 00:19:54.885
that he won the race by 20 seconds
516
00:19:56.565 --> 00:19:59.735
is baffling to me.
517
00:20:00.195 --> 00:20:04.375
But Alex, did you read into kind of how
518
00:20:04.375 --> 00:20:05.415
and why they got there?
519
00:20:05.855 --> 00:20:08.255
I did not. I only saw a quote from
520
00:20:10.075 --> 00:20:11.575
Lauren. Lauren. Lauren.
521
00:20:11.575 --> 00:20:14.695
Lauren. Lauren
Meki. Lauren. Okay. My apologies.
522
00:20:14.995 --> 00:20:18.855
Um, Che Lauren, uh,
523
00:20:19.915 --> 00:20:24.135
May way,
saying that like Max
524
00:20:25.095 --> 00:20:26.235
really challenged them
525
00:20:26.255 --> 00:20:29.435
and pushed them in a uncomfortable setup direction,
526
00:20:30.215 --> 00:20:31.995
um, going into the weekend.
527
00:20:31.995 --> 00:20:34.115
That's, that's the extent of my knowledge. Yeah.
528
00:20:34.115 --> 00:20:36.875
So basically the long and short of it is, I guess,
529
00:20:37.335 --> 00:20:39.995
you know, the simulations and everything
530
00:20:40.295 --> 00:20:42.635
and the simulator were saying one thing
531
00:20:43.215 --> 00:20:44.755
and Max was just like, yeah,
532
00:20:44.775 --> 00:20:45.835
but that's not what's happening.
533
00:20:46.015 --> 00:20:47.245
And like, let's not do that.
534
00:20:47.745 --> 00:20:51.165
And so it was, it was encouraging the engineers to,
535
00:20:51.265 --> 00:20:54.605
to be bold enough to not listen to the Sims
536
00:20:55.265 --> 00:20:57.685
and all the software and all the predictive stuff
537
00:20:57.825 --> 00:20:59.525
and just go with what he was telling them.
538
00:21:00.385 --> 00:21:04.205
And because there's obviously new leadership there.
539
00:21:04.385 --> 00:21:08.855
Was this rooted, was this rooted in anything? Like where
540
00:21:08.855 --> 00:21:09.855
Was the theory?
541
00:21:09.855 --> 00:21:12.175
I imagine itd rooted coming from, I I imagine it was rooted
542
00:21:12.235 --> 00:21:14.535
in the fact that there's been races in the last
543
00:21:14.535 --> 00:21:18.175
however long where the sim says X and the car's undrivable
544
00:21:18.435 --> 00:21:19.815
and he would've rather gone a different way
545
00:21:19.815 --> 00:21:20.935
based on how he felt in the car.
546
00:21:21.405 --> 00:21:25.175
Sure. And so, so historical. Yeah. Right.
547
00:21:25.475 --> 00:21:26.535
So I guess
548
00:21:26.535 --> 00:21:28.255
because you know, d different leadership there
549
00:21:28.255 --> 00:21:30.735
with Lauren Al and, and not Horner.
550
00:21:30.735 --> 00:21:32.615
And he was like, cool. And he comes from an engineering
551
00:21:32.615 --> 00:21:34.415
background, he's like, yeah, let's give it a whirl.
552
00:21:34.565 --> 00:21:36.375
They were debating about downforce levels
553
00:21:36.635 --> 00:21:37.855
for qualifying and for the race.
554
00:21:37.975 --> 00:21:39.015
'cause obviously it's park for May
555
00:21:39.435 --> 00:21:42.295
and Max won the debate to go a little bit less.
556
00:21:43.115 --> 00:21:45.375
And he just made the difference in qualifying
557
00:21:45.765 --> 00:21:46.765
Once again.
558
00:21:46.765 --> 00:21:47.215
Once again, they were trimming,
559
00:21:47.215 --> 00:21:49.895
they were carving out rear wing like they were in Vegas a
560
00:21:49.895 --> 00:21:51.335
couple years ago, like taking a
561
00:21:52.045 --> 00:21:53.415
sawa essentially to it. Yeah.
562
00:21:53.715 --> 00:21:55.255
So like he's got a COVID less grip,
563
00:21:55.255 --> 00:21:56.575
but he is like, I want the straight line speed,
564
00:21:56.575 --> 00:21:57.895
I'll make up the difference in the corners.
565
00:21:57.955 --> 00:22:00.495
And sure enough, he did got pole and,
566
00:22:00.515 --> 00:22:01.535
and walked away with it.
567
00:22:01.565 --> 00:22:04.815
Like, dude, such an incredible performance.
568
00:22:04.815 --> 00:22:06.415
I know what was, what was wild
569
00:22:06.635 --> 00:22:09.295
and a tough look was, I think it was
570
00:22:09.665 --> 00:22:14.215
after practice two, um, you know, Yuki was 19th
571
00:22:14.475 --> 00:22:17.935
or something and said, yeah, you know, just,
572
00:22:18.995 --> 00:22:20.975
we don't have the pace in the car, you know,
573
00:22:21.085 --> 00:22:22.975
it's just the developments haven't worked
574
00:22:23.075 --> 00:22:25.575
and we're kind of, it's as a team, we've kind
575
00:22:25.575 --> 00:22:26.615
of just given up on the year.
576
00:22:26.705 --> 00:22:28.855
There was a new floor that was brought and it,
577
00:22:28.955 --> 00:22:30.135
and that was also part of it.
578
00:22:30.235 --> 00:22:34.425
But yeah, it worked okay. Yeah, it worked well. And so yeah.
579
00:22:34.425 --> 00:22:36.105
Yeah. This is, this is now that,
580
00:22:36.135 --> 00:22:38.465
that was a really bad weekend for Yuki
581
00:22:38.625 --> 00:22:40.545
because they did bring a new floor.
582
00:22:40.845 --> 00:22:42.545
It obviously worked pretty well for one guy
583
00:22:43.165 --> 00:22:44.705
and the other guy was not in the points.
584
00:22:45.625 --> 00:22:47.845
And so I don't think I forget. I don't think.
585
00:22:48.525 --> 00:22:51.305
And so the excuses are kind
586
00:22:51.305 --> 00:22:53.065
of running out over there on the other side of the garage.
587
00:22:53.085 --> 00:22:58.025
Mm. So It was,
588
00:22:58.205 --> 00:22:59.905
it was fun kind of seeing Max win again
589
00:23:00.165 --> 00:23:01.905
and like seeing him actually be happy about winning.
590
00:23:02.365 --> 00:23:04.585
Not that he wasn't happy when he was winning 20 races a
591
00:23:04.585 --> 00:23:05.665
year, but like you're obviously
592
00:23:05.665 --> 00:23:06.745
gonna get a little more used to it.
593
00:23:06.745 --> 00:23:08.985
And this one was a little more of like a nice fist bump,
594
00:23:08.985 --> 00:23:11.105
especially 'cause they were so garbage there last year.
595
00:23:11.205 --> 00:23:13.865
So like that was a terrible race for them last year.
596
00:23:13.925 --> 00:23:15.225
And to completely turn everything around
597
00:23:15.245 --> 00:23:17.745
and win by that margin, it's pretty impressive.
598
00:23:17.855 --> 00:23:20.425
Over two cars that normally are pretty good this year
599
00:23:21.915 --> 00:23:23.885
weren't as good, but they made
600
00:23:24.045 --> 00:23:25.165
headlines for different reasons.
601
00:23:25.475 --> 00:23:27.445
They sure did James. They
602
00:23:27.445 --> 00:23:28.445
Sure did.
603
00:23:28.445 --> 00:23:29.845
I'm so, I'm so excited to get your take on this.
604
00:23:30.105 --> 00:23:32.045
My take on it is it's bull.
605
00:23:32.915 --> 00:23:34.445
Okay, well let's explain what happened.
606
00:23:35.185 --> 00:23:39.605
So what happened was, uh,
607
00:23:39.865 --> 00:23:43.245
we can fast forward through the drama, you know, on Max, um,
608
00:23:43.705 --> 00:23:46.485
pushes Orlando onto the, not that really Max.
609
00:23:46.905 --> 00:23:49.605
Max, max does his thing, right? Max? Yeah.
610
00:23:49.825 --> 00:23:53.925
He has to nce the position to Lando as soon two laps later.
611
00:23:53.925 --> 00:23:56.045
Once DS is active, he gets back by Lando
612
00:23:56.045 --> 00:23:57.565
and kind of drives the way off into the sunset.
613
00:23:57.665 --> 00:23:58.685
So none of that really matters.
614
00:23:59.545 --> 00:24:02.165
Um, and so
615
00:24:03.755 --> 00:24:06.795
essentially Lando was in second place.
616
00:24:07.165 --> 00:24:12.035
Oscar was in third Lando, um, had track position.
617
00:24:12.175 --> 00:24:15.275
You could argue that maybe one car was,
618
00:24:15.525 --> 00:24:17.515
Oscar was a little bit better than Lando.
619
00:24:17.515 --> 00:24:20.785
You could maybe argue that Lando was in, uh,
620
00:24:21.245 --> 00:24:22.825
or was better than Oscar.
621
00:24:22.825 --> 00:24:23.905
None of it really mattered.
622
00:24:23.905 --> 00:24:25.425
They were kind of doing the same lab time.
623
00:24:25.425 --> 00:24:27.305
They were second, third, um,
624
00:24:27.685 --> 00:24:29.305
and they weren't really racing to anybody else.
625
00:24:29.405 --> 00:24:30.785
You know, max was off in the distance.
626
00:24:30.785 --> 00:24:33.105
They were second, third, fourth wasn't a non-factor.
627
00:24:34.605 --> 00:24:36.145
And we're going
628
00:24:36.145 --> 00:24:37.825
through pissed off cycles and, and all this sort of thing.
629
00:24:38.125 --> 00:24:40.945
And, um, Lando has a slow stop
630
00:24:41.735 --> 00:24:44.275
and it was a, a trouble with the left front.
631
00:24:45.175 --> 00:24:47.835
He, it was a four second time loss in pit lane,
632
00:24:47.835 --> 00:24:51.835
which was enough for Oscar to jump Lando in
633
00:24:51.835 --> 00:24:52.955
that pit cycle.
634
00:24:54.415 --> 00:24:58.835
And what proceeded to happen was McLaren asked Oscar
635
00:24:59.735 --> 00:25:01.155
to give the position back
636
00:25:01.495 --> 00:25:05.475
and on the radio, you know, they referenced Hungary, um,
637
00:25:06.505 --> 00:25:08.115
from a year, that was last year, right?
638
00:25:08.225 --> 00:25:09.475
Yeah. From, from last year.
639
00:25:10.015 --> 00:25:12.715
And how, you know, things need to, to come back around
640
00:25:12.855 --> 00:25:13.915
and, and all that sort of thing.
641
00:25:14.415 --> 00:25:19.355
And Oscar, uh, on the radio was very, um,
642
00:25:20.425 --> 00:25:23.555
very professional and very articulate.
643
00:25:23.555 --> 00:25:25.795
And his response, and his response was, if that's
644
00:25:25.795 --> 00:25:27.395
what you want me to do, that's fine.
645
00:25:28.215 --> 00:25:30.515
Um, I just would've always believed
646
00:25:30.515 --> 00:25:33.075
that slow stops are a part of racing.
647
00:25:33.575 --> 00:25:35.355
And let's be honest, these two are fighting
648
00:25:35.865 --> 00:25:37.195
each other in the championship.
649
00:25:37.335 --> 00:25:39.555
Max isn't gonna be a factor in the championship.
650
00:25:40.145 --> 00:25:42.915
It's a very close and narrow battle. Um,
651
00:25:43.135 --> 00:25:44.315
And, and we've talked about before
652
00:25:44.375 --> 00:25:46.995
how this could very well be the only time that either one
653
00:25:46.995 --> 00:25:48.515
of them have the car and the opportunity
654
00:25:48.575 --> 00:25:50.075
to win a world championship.
655
00:25:50.505 --> 00:25:54.755
Correct. And McLaren made Oscar
656
00:25:54.755 --> 00:25:55.915
give the position back.
657
00:25:56.455 --> 00:26:00.315
Um, and Lando finished second and Oscar finished third.
658
00:26:01.045 --> 00:26:02.475
Lando closed up a little bit.
659
00:26:02.475 --> 00:26:05.995
Obviously he took a big hit in Zandor last weekend when he,
660
00:26:06.095 --> 00:26:08.675
he had the, the, the retirement from the engine slash
661
00:26:08.675 --> 00:26:09.995
chassis failure, whatever you wanna call it.
662
00:26:10.045 --> 00:26:14.715
Where I think it's bull is exactly kind
663
00:26:14.715 --> 00:26:16.595
of exactly what I just said.
664
00:26:17.215 --> 00:26:20.315
Um, slow pit stops are a part of racing.
665
00:26:20.545 --> 00:26:25.515
This wasn't a strategy call that ended up, you know,
666
00:26:26.395 --> 00:26:29.475
a strategy call that was used to protect, let,
667
00:26:29.475 --> 00:26:30.915
like, let me back up.
668
00:26:31.645 --> 00:26:34.715
Let's say Oscar was in, um, third,
669
00:26:35.215 --> 00:26:36.595
he was under threat from fourth.
670
00:26:36.945 --> 00:26:38.715
They made a decision to pit him early,
671
00:26:39.215 --> 00:26:40.555
to put him on fresh tires
672
00:26:40.775 --> 00:26:43.205
to basically undercut the car that he was racing.
673
00:26:43.745 --> 00:26:46.645
And that whole sequence cycled him in front of Lando
674
00:26:46.645 --> 00:26:48.245
because of that decision.
675
00:26:48.695 --> 00:26:51.045
Which is, which was exactly what had happened. Hungry
676
00:26:51.045 --> 00:26:52.725
Relationship, which is exactly what happened in Budapest.
677
00:26:52.945 --> 00:26:55.285
It was not a undercut to beat your teammate,
678
00:26:55.285 --> 00:26:57.045
it was an undercut to defend against a position.
679
00:26:57.385 --> 00:26:59.845
And he just ended up cycling in front.
680
00:27:00.955 --> 00:27:05.605
This was, um, a purely a a, a team failure
681
00:27:06.145 --> 00:27:07.685
in pit lane, not a land of failure.
682
00:27:07.825 --> 00:27:11.605
He did nothing wrong and Oscar paid the penalty for it.
683
00:27:13.705 --> 00:27:16.165
The same if, if they're gonna do things that way.
684
00:27:16.865 --> 00:27:18.285
And of course they're not gonna do this.
685
00:27:18.535 --> 00:27:19.565
Lando has a car failure
686
00:27:19.625 --> 00:27:23.765
and zandor isn't it tit for tat?
687
00:27:24.365 --> 00:27:26.095
Like should Oscar just pull over?
688
00:27:26.525 --> 00:27:30.095
Like we, why, why is this precedent being set
689
00:27:30.725 --> 00:27:32.855
that there was a racing situation
690
00:27:32.855 --> 00:27:34.895
that happened very similar to a mechanical failure.
691
00:27:35.445 --> 00:27:38.655
This was a slow stop that we all live with day in
692
00:27:38.655 --> 00:27:41.135
and day out happens to everyone in every form
693
00:27:41.135 --> 00:27:42.775
of motor sports every single year.
694
00:27:43.725 --> 00:27:45.695
That shouldn't be a position reversal.
695
00:27:46.395 --> 00:27:48.455
End of discussion. That's
696
00:27:48.455 --> 00:27:49.455
My take.
697
00:27:49.455 --> 00:27:52.575
I'm very glad that I wasn't working Lonza this weekend
698
00:27:52.725 --> 00:27:55.335
because I would've had to have gone on the post-race show
699
00:27:55.335 --> 00:27:56.535
and had some opinion on this.
700
00:27:56.635 --> 00:27:57.895
And I would've in the moment.
701
00:27:58.595 --> 00:28:00.935
And I think my opinion on it's changed three
702
00:28:00.935 --> 00:28:02.695
or four times since that.
703
00:28:04.215 --> 00:28:06.855
'cause there are a couple other things to consider, right?
704
00:28:07.795 --> 00:28:12.695
One being that they actually called Lando to pit first. Hmm.
705
00:28:12.795 --> 00:28:16.295
And, and Lando said, is Charles
706
00:28:16.815 --> 00:28:18.495
a threat to Ptri?
707
00:28:18.675 --> 00:28:20.175
You can pit him first if you want,
708
00:28:20.365 --> 00:28:24.255
because the gap between them was like four or five seconds.
709
00:28:24.425 --> 00:28:26.895
Right? So it was enough
710
00:28:26.895 --> 00:28:29.775
that a one lap undercut was not gonna make the difference.
711
00:28:31.135 --> 00:28:33.515
And so the team was like, oh, that's very good of you
712
00:28:33.575 --> 00:28:35.315
to offer that, to make sure that
713
00:28:35.315 --> 00:28:38.595
that La Claire doesn't undercut fine.
714
00:28:38.685 --> 00:28:41.235
We'll pit him first. So they pit him first
715
00:28:41.255 --> 00:28:42.475
and there's no problem with the gun.
716
00:28:43.335 --> 00:28:44.995
So then Lando pits the next lap
717
00:28:45.175 --> 00:28:46.555
and it's that four second loss.
718
00:28:46.615 --> 00:28:48.995
It was about a four second gap. And away you go.
719
00:28:49.735 --> 00:28:54.715
So is the fact that Lando offered up his preferred
720
00:28:54.935 --> 00:28:58.715
pit sequence to his teammate
721
00:28:59.805 --> 00:29:01.265
affect that call, right?
722
00:29:01.335 --> 00:29:02.825
Like does that some of your team,
723
00:29:02.825 --> 00:29:03.865
Like you're saying, you're saying usually,
724
00:29:03.935 --> 00:29:07.145
usually track position gets the preferred strategy.
725
00:29:07.755 --> 00:29:09.745
Right? And he, he calls
He
726
00:29:09.745 --> 00:29:10.745
Would've in first he was running in front.
727
00:29:10.765 --> 00:29:11.865
He, so he should have pit first
728
00:29:12.405 --> 00:29:16.145
and he set Lando sit on the radio, Hey, if you need
729
00:29:16.145 --> 00:29:18.345
to protect Oscar, just do him and I'll pick the next lap.
730
00:29:18.505 --> 00:29:20.185
'cause he had enough of a gap, right?
731
00:29:21.595 --> 00:29:22.795
I was not aware of that of
732
00:29:23.365 --> 00:29:24.365
Right.
733
00:29:24.365 --> 00:29:26.315
So then, so then, so then the team's in a position were
734
00:29:26.315 --> 00:29:29.515
like, well man, he offered this up to help his teammate.
735
00:29:29.575 --> 00:29:31.955
And it's, so the way you worded it was,
736
00:29:32.215 --> 00:29:34.075
so why did Oscar have to pay the price?
737
00:29:34.265 --> 00:29:35.675
Well, Oscar didn't pay a price,
738
00:29:35.815 --> 00:29:37.155
he just didn't get a benefit.
739
00:29:38.115 --> 00:29:39.635
Hmm. So it's, it's slightly different.
740
00:29:40.255 --> 00:29:43.445
And so the questions are, are endless. Right?
741
00:29:43.585 --> 00:29:46.565
If Budapest hadn't ha sorry, if Zandor hadn't happened
742
00:29:47.195 --> 00:29:48.645
last week and he had a mechanical failure,
743
00:29:48.735 --> 00:29:52.005
would they have been as inclined to like even it out,
744
00:29:52.745 --> 00:29:54.365
had Budapest last year not happened,
745
00:29:54.365 --> 00:29:55.765
would they have been able to use that, you know,
746
00:29:55.825 --> 00:29:59.645
as a reference point who told Oscar it was a slow stop
747
00:29:59.645 --> 00:30:01.885
because you don't know that from inside the cockpit.
748
00:30:01.985 --> 00:30:04.565
How did he know that Lando didn't like drive off the track
749
00:30:04.865 --> 00:30:07.285
or that the undercut was actually just
750
00:30:07.285 --> 00:30:08.445
way more powerful than they thought?
751
00:30:08.505 --> 00:30:09.605
Mm. You know, like how did he,
752
00:30:09.625 --> 00:30:11.245
so like someone on the team must have said
753
00:30:11.245 --> 00:30:13.325
that Lando had a slow stop, which they didn't have to do.
754
00:30:13.935 --> 00:30:15.645
Right? They could have just said, you know,
755
00:30:15.825 --> 00:30:17.805
you undercut him same as Hungary.
756
00:30:17.805 --> 00:30:18.885
Just give the position back.
757
00:30:20.405 --> 00:30:23.255
What I like about what Oscar did was he didn't put up the
758
00:30:23.255 --> 00:30:25.735
fight that Lando did in, in Hungary last year.
759
00:30:26.155 --> 00:30:27.295
And what that actually allowed him
760
00:30:27.295 --> 00:30:28.535
to do was try to race him.
761
00:30:28.855 --> 00:30:29.855
'cause they were like, let him buy,
762
00:30:29.855 --> 00:30:30.615
but then you're free to race.
763
00:30:30.615 --> 00:30:32.095
You got 20 laps to go chase him down.
764
00:30:32.095 --> 00:30:34.605
If you think you're fast enough. We,
765
00:30:34.605 --> 00:30:35.845
they go back to Hungary last year.
766
00:30:36.085 --> 00:30:38.285
I always said that about Land's reaction
767
00:30:38.285 --> 00:30:41.405
to it is Lando was a lot faster than Oscar in Hungary last
768
00:30:41.405 --> 00:30:42.645
year in that final stint.
769
00:30:43.455 --> 00:30:45.565
Oscar was not faster than Lando at the end
770
00:30:45.565 --> 00:30:48.765
of the race in Manza had Oscar as had Lando, sorry,
771
00:30:48.785 --> 00:30:50.765
led Oscar by immediately when they asked him
772
00:30:50.765 --> 00:30:51.845
to in Hungary last year,
773
00:30:52.245 --> 00:30:53.525
I think he had a shot at passing him
774
00:30:53.525 --> 00:30:55.485
legitimately and winning the race.
775
00:30:55.485 --> 00:30:57.565
Anyway, that's all aside.
776
00:30:58.065 --> 00:31:02.505
So when I look at it, you know, it was,
777
00:31:02.525 --> 00:31:06.545
it was Oscar trying to be a good team player, sorry,
778
00:31:06.545 --> 00:31:07.865
Orlando trying to be a good team player
779
00:31:08.015 --> 00:31:09.145
that kind of screwed him.
780
00:31:09.805 --> 00:31:12.185
So is it fair that Oscar be a good team
781
00:31:12.185 --> 00:31:14.265
player in the reverse? So,
782
00:31:14.935 --> 00:31:18.995
Okay, should, and
783
00:31:19.015 --> 00:31:20.235
and this is just a question, I
784
00:31:20.235 --> 00:31:21.395
don't know that I have the answer.
785
00:31:22.215 --> 00:31:25.315
Should the pit wall
786
00:31:27.375 --> 00:31:31.295
have that much influence of
787
00:31:32.315 --> 00:31:33.775
the outcome of the sport?
788
00:31:36.605 --> 00:31:39.535
What I mean by that is if you look at, if you look at
789
00:31:40.235 --> 00:31:41.855
all sports championships, right?
790
00:31:41.915 --> 00:31:43.855
And racing as we know is very unique
791
00:31:43.855 --> 00:31:45.015
than stick and ball, right?
792
00:31:45.115 --> 00:31:46.375
And I, and I understand that,
793
00:31:47.315 --> 00:31:51.455
but there are factors at play in
794
00:31:52.255 --> 00:31:55.295
football games and basketball games where there's variables
795
00:31:55.495 --> 00:31:56.575
of referees and,
796
00:31:56.595 --> 00:31:58.935
and these sort of situations that come up, right?
797
00:31:58.935 --> 00:32:03.775
Controversial decisions and there's no, there's no gimme
798
00:32:04.355 --> 00:32:06.215
or there's no do over, there's no,
799
00:32:06.315 --> 00:32:08.975
oh well next game we'll fix it sort of situation.
800
00:32:09.595 --> 00:32:12.335
And the end result is, yeah, let's,
801
00:32:12.335 --> 00:32:14.295
the Golden State Warriors won X amount
802
00:32:14.495 --> 00:32:16.335
of NBA titles over this time period.
803
00:32:16.795 --> 00:32:19.175
And I'm sure there's plenty of people that argue, oh,
804
00:32:19.175 --> 00:32:22.735
the 2000 whatever one was, there should be an asterisk by it
805
00:32:22.735 --> 00:32:25.135
because in that game and that ref made that call,
806
00:32:25.135 --> 00:32:27.295
that affected the outcome and it should have never happened.
807
00:32:27.295 --> 00:32:31.255
Right? But it, but it did.
808
00:32:32.475 --> 00:32:37.375
So why, why is Motorsport seen as this,
809
00:32:38.005 --> 00:32:41.845
this platform where the
810
00:32:42.445 --> 00:32:46.295
driver's careers
811
00:32:46.675 --> 00:32:50.015
and their mark on history is going to be
812
00:32:51.825 --> 00:32:54.435
changed or determined based on an individual
813
00:32:54.575 --> 00:32:56.355
or a couple individual's decisions
814
00:32:57.105 --> 00:32:59.695
that they don't ultimately have control over?
815
00:33:00.255 --> 00:33:01.335
I don't think that should be,
816
00:33:01.765 --> 00:33:03.415
that should be the case that's happening
817
00:33:04.005 --> 00:33:05.005
This way.
818
00:33:05.005 --> 00:33:05.895
I I, I'm not, I'm not sure
819
00:33:05.925 --> 00:33:08.975
that the Zandor thing played a part or not, right?
820
00:33:09.215 --> 00:33:13.335
I think it was more that Lando had priority, which he
821
00:33:13.935 --> 00:33:17.135
sacrificed in order to help his teammate and it bit him.
822
00:33:17.635 --> 00:33:19.775
You can say bad luck, you can say tough <inaudible>.
823
00:33:19.915 --> 00:33:22.615
It is what, it's the point about
824
00:33:23.475 --> 00:33:25.295
the team having that kind of influence.
825
00:33:25.455 --> 00:33:27.695
I think what's important to remember in Formula One kind
826
00:33:27.695 --> 00:33:30.415
of uniquely, but it's true of all racing to some extent,
827
00:33:31.155 --> 00:33:33.255
is Formula One is a manufacturer's
828
00:33:33.255 --> 00:33:35.535
championship. And so, but this
829
00:33:35.535 --> 00:33:37.215
Wasn't affecting any of their points on
830
00:33:37.215 --> 00:33:38.255
the weekend for sure.
831
00:33:38.255 --> 00:33:39.855
They were gonna give the same amount of points regardless.
832
00:33:40.495 --> 00:33:42.295
A hundred percent. So, but how do, if you,
833
00:33:42.315 --> 00:33:46.095
if you were gonna allow teams to switch driver positions
834
00:33:46.095 --> 00:33:49.315
and kind of have that influence in cases
835
00:33:49.325 --> 00:33:51.395
where it does affect the manufacturer's points,
836
00:33:52.335 --> 00:33:54.355
how do you draw the line on?
837
00:33:55.225 --> 00:33:56.225
Well, you know,
838
00:33:57.255 --> 00:33:59.115
I'm not saying Case should be involved,
839
00:33:59.895 --> 00:34:03.655
but I'm saying McLaren is an organization in my mind,
840
00:34:03.965 --> 00:34:08.045
they should be apologetic to Lando and say we let you down.
841
00:34:08.045 --> 00:34:11.365
Because ultimately if, if, if,
842
00:34:11.795 --> 00:34:13.265
let's use Indy cars as an example.
843
00:34:13.755 --> 00:34:16.425
Dixon Palolo racing and Dixon has a slow stop
844
00:34:16.425 --> 00:34:17.905
because his guy doesn't get it done.
845
00:34:17.905 --> 00:34:20.585
And Palo jumps him in the sequence Polo pulling over,
846
00:34:21.205 --> 00:34:22.665
See here, this is, this is what's,
847
00:34:22.665 --> 00:34:23.745
this is what's weird about it.
848
00:34:24.035 --> 00:34:28.025
Let's say Lando did pit first and that was the slow stop.
849
00:34:28.755 --> 00:34:30.865
Oscar pits the next lap and comes out in front.
850
00:34:31.325 --> 00:34:32.385
No chance they switch him.
851
00:34:33.105 --> 00:34:34.785
I don't think there's a chance they switch 'em
852
00:34:35.285 --> 00:34:36.895
because that's bad luck.
853
00:34:37.775 --> 00:34:41.375
I think the fact that Lando gave up his first pit spot
854
00:34:41.475 --> 00:34:44.015
or first pit sequence, I, I don't know.
855
00:34:44.095 --> 00:34:46.695
I don't know. That's the, that's like, I I would love
856
00:34:46.695 --> 00:34:49.615
to know if they just boned him in the pits on the first stop
857
00:34:49.715 --> 00:34:51.775
rather than the second one if
858
00:34:51.775 --> 00:34:52.895
they would've done the same thing.
859
00:34:53.875 --> 00:34:55.455
So is it, is it that they're trying
860
00:34:55.455 --> 00:34:58.375
to not make the team the difference in this
861
00:34:58.375 --> 00:34:59.455
driver's championship?
862
00:34:59.875 --> 00:35:02.415
Or is it that because Lando sacrificed,
863
00:35:02.725 --> 00:35:04.655
they thought it was only fair to switch it back?
864
00:35:05.355 --> 00:35:07.455
The, the, the thing about it is, is there's, now
865
00:35:07.965 --> 00:35:09.295
it's really tough to know
866
00:35:09.295 --> 00:35:11.735
what they're gonna do in future scenarios, right?
867
00:35:12.275 --> 00:35:14.175
On one hand you're like, oh, they're clearly gonna just try
868
00:35:14.175 --> 00:35:15.255
to keep it as fair as possible
869
00:35:15.255 --> 00:35:16.415
and make up these weird scenarios
870
00:35:16.415 --> 00:35:17.775
and swap around whatever, whatever.
871
00:35:18.075 --> 00:35:19.215
But there's also the good chance
872
00:35:19.215 --> 00:35:21.055
that like a very similar situation
873
00:35:21.345 --> 00:35:22.495
won't get treated the same way.
874
00:35:22.495 --> 00:35:23.855
And then everyone's gonna be up in arms like,
875
00:35:23.855 --> 00:35:25.455
well hang on a minute, didn't you set this
876
00:35:25.455 --> 00:35:26.695
precedent back in Monza?
877
00:35:26.875 --> 00:35:29.855
So they've, they've definitely made their lives a lot more
878
00:35:29.855 --> 00:35:33.375
difficult in a lot of ways, um, certainly externally.
879
00:35:33.835 --> 00:35:36.135
But then that brings up the other question
880
00:35:36.135 --> 00:35:38.525
because the next thing that I started seeing a lot
881
00:35:38.525 --> 00:35:42.325
of talk about was 2016 when in Monaco
882
00:35:43.735 --> 00:35:46.285
Lewis was faster than Nico
883
00:35:46.825 --> 00:35:48.725
and somebody was driving away in front
884
00:35:48.985 --> 00:35:51.565
and they asked Nico to move him to move aside,
885
00:35:51.565 --> 00:35:53.645
let let Lewis try to go win the race, right?
886
00:35:54.765 --> 00:35:56.685
'cause it's always about the team winning the race. Fine.
887
00:35:57.705 --> 00:35:59.125
In this case, there was no chance
888
00:35:59.125 --> 00:36:00.645
that those guys were gonna win the race
889
00:36:00.645 --> 00:36:02.085
without Max just driving off.
890
00:36:02.085 --> 00:36:03.725
And that case didn't matter which driver was in front.
891
00:36:04.305 --> 00:36:06.565
But then later in the year in Abu Dhabi, they asked Lewis
892
00:36:06.585 --> 00:36:08.365
to do the same thing and he didn't do it.
893
00:36:08.645 --> 00:36:10.045
'cause he's like, we've already won the manufacturer's
894
00:36:10.045 --> 00:36:12.165
championship, so I I'm gonna do anything I can
895
00:36:12.165 --> 00:36:14.005
to help myself in the driver's championship
896
00:36:14.145 --> 00:36:15.925
and letting him by was not gonna do that.
897
00:36:16.945 --> 00:36:21.355
So did Lando Bone himself by being too nice
898
00:36:22.135 --> 00:36:24.435
and thinking about Oscar and thinking about the team,
899
00:36:25.295 --> 00:36:27.555
and did Oscar potentially bone himself by,
900
00:36:27.735 --> 00:36:31.915
by letting him go, like all these people online are saying a
901
00:36:31.915 --> 00:36:33.595
real champion would never have done that.
902
00:36:33.815 --> 00:36:35.235
That's why you have guys like,
903
00:36:35.235 --> 00:36:36.395
like Max would never have done that.
904
00:36:36.635 --> 00:36:37.675
Fernando would've never have done that.
905
00:36:37.675 --> 00:36:38.955
Lewis would've never have done that.
906
00:36:40.845 --> 00:36:43.145
So like, are you, are you calling these guys? I have, I
907
00:36:43.145 --> 00:36:46.105
Have, I have no problem with what Oscar did.
908
00:36:46.505 --> 00:36:50.145
I think that it was referenced on the broadcast, uh, a quote
909
00:36:50.145 --> 00:36:51.585
that he, that he said,
910
00:36:52.045 --> 00:36:54.905
and he said, I have no problem following the team orders,
911
00:36:55.285 --> 00:36:58.385
um, because ultimately I'm gonna need them
912
00:36:58.685 --> 00:36:59.825
for many years in the future.
913
00:37:00.565 --> 00:37:03.025
And so what, whatever they tell me to do, I'm gonna do
914
00:37:03.025 --> 00:37:05.345
because I wanna be a McLaren driver for a long time
915
00:37:05.565 --> 00:37:06.985
and I'm thinking about my future here.
916
00:37:07.085 --> 00:37:09.065
So I I have a huge amount of respect for that.
917
00:37:09.405 --> 00:37:10.785
And I don't have any problem with,
918
00:37:10.855 --> 00:37:12.865
with Oscar doing what was asked of him.
919
00:37:13.085 --> 00:37:14.385
My problem is with the pit wall.
920
00:37:14.725 --> 00:37:19.345
And, and, and I think that there is an interesting
921
00:37:19.405 --> 00:37:23.655
and valid point for why Lando took that approach.
922
00:37:23.965 --> 00:37:26.415
He's in a deficit in the championship, okay?
923
00:37:26.635 --> 00:37:29.095
His teammate clearly is no slouch.
924
00:37:29.595 --> 00:37:32.015
His teammate clearly is gonna have every capability
925
00:37:32.015 --> 00:37:33.295
of matching him and qualifying the race
926
00:37:33.295 --> 00:37:35.455
as we've talked about at length.
927
00:37:36.675 --> 00:37:40.135
Why on earth is he offering?
928
00:37:40.295 --> 00:37:42.615
Wouldn't land want Oscar to finish forth?
929
00:37:42.795 --> 00:37:45.455
Why is he protect McLaren's not under threat from a
930
00:37:45.455 --> 00:37:47.175
manufacturer standpoint in the championship?
931
00:37:47.175 --> 00:37:48.935
You can't say, oh, he is playing the team game.
932
00:37:49.355 --> 00:37:50.975
Why is he protecting him from forth?
933
00:37:51.395 --> 00:37:52.255
He needs to, that's what I'm saying,
934
00:37:52.255 --> 00:37:53.215
make up a points deficit.
935
00:37:53.485 --> 00:37:54.615
Yeah, no, but but,
936
00:37:54.615 --> 00:37:57.335
but I'm saying Land's mentality is the weird one.
937
00:37:57.645 --> 00:37:58.855
It's not Oscar pulling over
938
00:37:58.855 --> 00:38:00.135
and doing what he's saying to do.
939
00:38:00.135 --> 00:38:02.175
Mm-hmm. Yes. I believe Max wouldn't have done that.
940
00:38:02.315 --> 00:38:04.775
But that's not the point. Max does a lot of things
941
00:38:04.775 --> 00:38:05.895
that a lot of people wouldn't do.
942
00:38:06.495 --> 00:38:07.615
I think Oscar's in the right
943
00:38:07.715 --> 00:38:09.815
and Lando, like, there's questions about that.
944
00:38:09.815 --> 00:38:11.335
That's kind of a weird approach to have.
945
00:38:12.095 --> 00:38:13.095
I, I completely agree.
946
00:38:13.175 --> 00:38:14.855
I agree with you on the Oscar side and,
947
00:38:15.035 --> 00:38:19.485
but my, my question is just do you think that the type
948
00:38:19.485 --> 00:38:21.565
of driver that's gonna win multiple formula one world
949
00:38:21.565 --> 00:38:24.805
championships in that scenario, would aist
950
00:38:25.545 --> 00:38:28.365
not answered on the radio, not replied and gone for it
951
00:38:28.365 --> 00:38:31.645
because like we said, no, this might be his only shot at it.
952
00:38:31.705 --> 00:38:32.765
So the whole I wanna raise,
953
00:38:32.765 --> 00:38:34.245
I don't from McLaren for years and years and years.
954
00:38:34.475 --> 00:38:36.085
Okay. I absolutely don't because agree with you,
955
00:38:36.225 --> 00:38:39.005
but I, I don't, but that's, so many people in it are like,
956
00:38:39.005 --> 00:38:42.405
oh, multiple cha only multiple champions would've defied
957
00:38:42.405 --> 00:38:43.805
that rule and blah, blah blah, blah.
958
00:38:43.985 --> 00:38:45.165
And I just don't buy that. No.
959
00:38:46.065 --> 00:38:47.995
Nope. Good. Not in the slightest. I glad
960
00:38:47.995 --> 00:38:49.315
We agree on that, but I wonder if,
961
00:38:49.395 --> 00:38:50.675
I wonder if Lando does change
962
00:38:50.675 --> 00:38:51.755
his tune a little bit, but I would,
963
00:38:51.875 --> 00:38:54.515
I would've been, I would've been super pumped if my
964
00:38:54.715 --> 00:38:55.915
teammate finished this spot behind
965
00:38:55.915 --> 00:38:57.035
me and I finished second. Yeah,
966
00:38:57.265 --> 00:38:58.265
Yeah.
967
00:38:58.265 --> 00:38:59.475
I'm confused though because I thought people
968
00:38:59.475 --> 00:39:01.875
that commented on stuff online were always right.
969
00:39:03.145 --> 00:39:06.635
Well
They have a, an interesting track record in that,
970
00:39:06.735 --> 00:39:07.755
in that discussion.
971
00:39:07.755 --> 00:39:09.355
Mm-hmm. Tim. Yeah. They're,
972
00:39:09.505 --> 00:39:10.995
They are pretty, they are pretty good
973
00:39:11.895 --> 00:39:14.075
at commenting their opinions for sure.
974
00:39:14.105 --> 00:39:16.075
They, well, they have opinions and, and,
975
00:39:16.215 --> 00:39:17.435
and they want you to know 'em.
976
00:39:17.435 --> 00:39:19.555
They're, they're big on that. Hmm. That's, that's for sure.
977
00:39:19.915 --> 00:39:21.675
Hmm. Um, well yeah, it was interesting.
978
00:39:21.675 --> 00:39:24.555
Anyway, Monza was, uh, not an, not a great race,
979
00:39:24.735 --> 00:39:27.115
but, uh, awesome to see Max do max things
980
00:39:27.215 --> 00:39:29.115
and just really interesting to see that team dynamic
981
00:39:29.775 --> 00:39:31.595
at Old Mac McLaren.
982
00:39:32.095 --> 00:39:33.235
Who else did Well, I feel like someone
983
00:39:33.235 --> 00:39:34.355
Else, I mean, it's a high,
984
00:39:34.385 --> 00:39:35.795
it's a high class problem to have.
985
00:39:36.105 --> 00:39:38.195
Like Yes. As much as we talk about, yes.
986
00:39:38.575 --> 00:39:40.675
Oh, you wouldn't do this if you
987
00:39:40.675 --> 00:39:41.835
were in charge, blah, blah, blah.
988
00:39:41.865 --> 00:39:45.755
This is the dream. Zach is living the dream to have his team
989
00:39:46.365 --> 00:39:49.955
about to go defend a construction championship
990
00:39:50.125 --> 00:39:52.235
after all of the struggles that they have
991
00:39:52.735 --> 00:39:55.315
and have two badass drivers fighting tooth
992
00:39:55.315 --> 00:39:58.115
and nail for a championship for your brand.
993
00:39:58.225 --> 00:39:59.915
Like it's what everyone in F1 wants
994
00:40:01.385 --> 00:40:04.635
guys, guys do you know what's hilarious?
995
00:40:05.055 --> 00:40:08.795
And I just realized right in this very moment,
996
00:40:08.795 --> 00:40:10.195
we totally forgot to talk about Nashville .
997
00:40:12.555 --> 00:40:14.445
That was supposed to be what we talked about this week was
998
00:40:14.445 --> 00:40:18.205
Nashville and we crapped on about Cracker Barrel
999
00:40:18.265 --> 00:40:19.725
and European vacations
1000
00:40:19.785 --> 00:40:21.445
and whatever the <inaudible> was saying.
1001
00:40:21.505 --> 00:40:24.605
And then we went straight to Monza and never cups of piss.
1002
00:40:24.885 --> 00:40:26.205
I was talking about cups
Of piss right?
1003
00:40:26.205 --> 00:40:28.605
Cups of piss at Oasis concerts. Wow.
1004
00:40:28.755 --> 00:40:30.405
Well look, I know what we're gonna cover next week
1005
00:40:30.605 --> 00:40:31.925
'cause there's no F1 race this weekend
1006
00:40:32.345 --> 00:40:34.245
and we still haven't talked about Nashville. It's
1007
00:40:34.245 --> 00:40:35.045
Gonna be hard for me. Remember? We'll get to
1008
00:40:35.045 --> 00:40:38.325
Nashville at least a day or two before Nashville next
1009
00:40:38.325 --> 00:40:39.325
year,
.
1010
00:40:39.405 --> 00:40:40.445
I am, I am. Yeah.
1011
00:40:40.545 --> 00:40:41.725
I'm gonna have to go watch the recap,
1012
00:40:41.745 --> 00:40:43.925
the 30 minute recap on YouTube. I'm
1013
00:40:43.925 --> 00:40:45.525
Gonna have to go like read my race notes.
1014
00:40:46.105 --> 00:40:47.445
Is there like a NASCAR race
1015
00:40:47.465 --> 00:40:49.365
or something this weekend? Do I have to watch something?
1016
00:40:50.295 --> 00:40:53.245
There is a NASCAR race. Yeah. Is it, is it a cutoff race?
1017
00:40:53.565 --> 00:40:56.205
I don't, I don't know. I don't think so. I dunno,
1018
00:40:56.735 --> 00:40:57.735
Dunno, don't care.
1019
00:41:00.035 --> 00:41:01.485
fair. Well, somebody travels somewhere,
1020
00:41:01.485 --> 00:41:02.685
so we got more of that to talk about.
1021
00:41:03.315 --> 00:41:04.605
Well, yeah, I'm going to France,
1022
00:41:04.825 --> 00:41:06.965
so I'll hopefully have a terrible experience. I'm
1023
00:41:06.965 --> 00:41:07.965
Gonna see my horse.
1024
00:41:07.965 --> 00:41:11.805
Oh, is is he racing?
No, he got his chopped off.
1025
00:41:12.635 --> 00:41:14.895
Oh, so you're just gonna go bring him like a care
1026
00:41:14.895 --> 00:41:17.415
package. See that he's doing all
1027
00:41:17.415 --> 00:41:18.415
Right.
1028
00:41:18.415 --> 00:41:21.135
Yeah. Some like some Advil and some ice packs. Yeah. What,
1029
00:41:22.965 --> 00:41:25.135
When uh, when is he allowed to race again?
1030
00:41:25.195 --> 00:41:26.815
How long before he can race again?
1031
00:41:27.035 --> 00:41:29.415
We have plenty. I'll have that answer for you next week.
1032
00:41:29.555 --> 00:41:31.415
Got it. And we can talk about it at length.
1033
00:41:31.685 --> 00:41:34.165
Yeah, I'll get pictures and everything.
1034
00:41:35.145 --> 00:41:37.475
Give old, give Old Castle Rock a nice
1035
00:41:37.655 --> 00:41:38.755
pat on the nose for me.
1036
00:41:39.655 --> 00:41:41.395
Run No more rocks. Oh
1037
00:41:41.395 --> 00:41:43.955
Yeah, the rocks are gone.
1038
00:41:44.255 --> 00:41:46.035
Aren't you glad that hasn't made the jump from
1039
00:41:46.035 --> 00:41:47.595
horse racing to car racing? What
1040
00:41:47.915 --> 00:41:51.315
Castle run
The neu neutering the participants
1041
00:41:51.545 --> 00:41:53.395
That No, that only happens to horses
1042
00:41:53.425 --> 00:41:57.245
that are not doing well because they Oh yeah.
1043
00:41:57.755 --> 00:41:58.845
Yeah. So
1044
00:41:59.365 --> 00:42:00.645
I guess no stud there.
1045
00:42:01.275 --> 00:42:03.325
Yeah, I was, I was, I was gonna say, sorry Alex,
1046
00:42:03.545 --> 00:42:05.525
We expect you to do better in the points this year.
1047
00:42:05.665 --> 00:42:06.525
So snip, snip,
1048
00:42:11.115 --> 00:42:11.725
unrelated.
1049
00:42:11.905 --> 00:42:13.765
Do you have Ed's number? I wanna call him with an idea.
1050
00:42:16.745 --> 00:42:17.845
New incentive package.
1051
00:42:17.845 --> 00:42:19.205
Is there, you won't get your Cho off.
1052
00:42:19.745 --> 00:42:21.245
Is there some logic that like,
1053
00:42:21.245 --> 00:42:23.325
that he'll run faster now that he's been
1054
00:42:24.035 --> 00:42:25.085
Well, they're, they're hoping.
1055
00:42:25.155 --> 00:42:26.205
He's a, he's a moody.
1056
00:42:26.235 --> 00:42:28.885
He's a moody little guy, so they're hoping
1057
00:42:28.955 --> 00:42:30.205
that he's more focused.
1058
00:42:30.205 --> 00:42:31.525
Chip off the old block. Now
That
1059
00:42:32.565 --> 00:42:34.325
they're hoping
He's a little more less
1060
00:42:34.805 --> 00:42:36.285
distracted, let's say.
1061
00:42:36.505 --> 00:42:40.045
Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. He didn't have his head in the game.
1062
00:42:40.075 --> 00:42:41.205
Yeah.
Got
1063
00:42:41.205 --> 00:42:42.205
it.
,
1064
00:42:42.205 --> 00:42:44.365
no, his, he was thinking not with his head.
1065
00:42:44.365 --> 00:42:47.285
He'd say he was chasing tail, but the wrong kind.
1066
00:42:49.865 --> 00:42:52.245
on second though. Maybe it would help an IndyCar.
1067
00:42:53.875 --> 00:42:55.245
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1068
00:42:55.245 --> 00:42:56.805
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1069
00:42:56.805 --> 00:42:59.125
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1070
00:42:59.545 --> 00:43:00.685
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00:43:00.685 --> 00:43:02.765
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